You jest, but that is the best executed line in all of music. The way everything drops out, then just drops back in like a bunch of sharks carrying nukes
i love that "you know what i hate about this band?" "Nothing." could theoretically mean you hate the album Nothing, but more likely means you love everything about them. just like meshuggah riffs you can hear it in different ways.
I always disliked Nothing until they remastered it with their new sound now I think it's amazing. It was a work of genius ruined by bad music production IMHO. So glad they updated the album with their modern sound.
I'm amazed at how many of these patterns are imprinted on my memory without any understanding of the counting involved in them. Great breakdown and selection of riffs, your explanations are always on point!
This is probably one of my favorite albums of all time. It's time frame matched the time it used to take me to cut my yard, so i jammed out to it in my headphones hundreds of times
in my opinion, this is their darkest, most well-written and hardest hitting album to date. I love how they can somehow make what is essentially just one huge song interesting and perfectly tied together throughout the entire thing without it becoming too repetitive or boring. Disturbingly delicious riffs and drums aside, lyrically it is pure genius. I listened to the section between Mind's Mirrors and the end of In Death is Death on repeat about 20 times the first time i heard it because i just couldnt fathom how any human could write music so incredibly dark that even a singularity would have trouble keeping up
Am I the only one who had their mind blown by the Indian Counting method? I have literally never thought of counting like that before. Truly mind blowing! Lol
Yeah it's awesome. As an Indian musician, I have grown up counting like this. So at one point I used to think that's how the whole world does it. I discovered pretty late that it's an Indian thing. Incredibly useful. I literally count everything using this method and it always works no matter how complex it is :D
Who would’ve thought that you could come up w riffs that sound like the entire genre of futuristic science fiction. Even though Meshuggah get a lot of respect, I feel like it’s still not enough based on what they truly deserve.
Someone needs to make an app for Yogev to use where he has infinite pieces of any shape in any color, note pads, large numbers, etc, and with a few different backgrounds that he commonly uses. Saving trees is nice and all, but this is about saving time and making videos faster! Yella yella! Next Mayshuggah, I want more Meshuggah per Mayshuggah, so someone make this man an app! Seriously, though, thank you for doing these videos! These are amazing and I've learned a lot.
Love how some of the riffs that sound less chaotic and more motif driven are actually the through composed riffs that never repeat and have no simple logic. Then some of the shorter cycles are really rough on the ear groove wise. That 4/4 counting technique was amazing!
I'm in the process of learning this whole album on guitar and I'm stuck in the middle of in Death is Death. This video gave me some inspiration to keep going. Sadly you didn't cover the riff I'm stuck on
I feel like you have to have the perfect blooper reel when demonstrating the beats with your fingers. You have the perfect delivery for it, too. Thank you for this!
I’d just like to express how thankful I am for this video. Catch 33 for the past 6 months has been, I’m not even kidding, all I listen to. In death is life/ in death is death has been a riff that years ago I would only dream of playing. This video has been truly helpful and explanatory. Not overly confusing like others. Thank you so much. 🥺🙏🏻
I had such a blast learning to play this album when it came out. The first track sounds so simple in the ear, but once the riff starts to evolve, it can be really tricky to follow along when you're actually playing it. So many moments of 'holy shit that's cool' and giggling as you go back to play through the section again with what you've learned. My favorite meshuggah album for sure.
Its really interesting and impressive that Meshuggah put the crashes on the "one" for the third riff. It shows they understand exactly what they are doing in their songwriting
you are amazing!!! these riffs are irreparably ingrained in my brain intuitively, but you are completely blowing my mind by laying them out so systematically! love this channel!
Oh wow, this vid has me sooo close to getting the beat down for that last Sum riff. Mind needs to be so clear to even stand a chance. Awesome vid, thank you!
You have a great way of breaking down these rythyms, I've listened to these so many times but haven't been able to figure a lot of these out without your help.
awesome video, Catch 33 is my favorite Meshuggah album and is very overlooked. definitely wish you could include the chorus riff from In Death - Is Life (also appears as the midway climax in In Death - Is Death). It's in 52/8 and is one of the heaviest metal riffs I've ever heard /watch?v=VtP7JDDul08&t=235s
Im happy to see this album get the recognition it deserves in the comments. A lot of people originally shunned it because of how it was made, and obviously couldn't understand it. I've always thought it was brilliant and by far their most creative effort. I've heard this album hundreds of times since it came out, way more than any other. The threshold you pass once you know the twists and turns of this album has a satisfactory quality that only us few really understand.
I freaking knew it man! I didn't know the specifics, but I knew there was something going on with those first 3 tracks, that the groove was getting shifted over. And that's why the tracks have different names!
Check out the 2:48 mark of “Pitch Black” for more of that softer dynamic, funky Meshuggah magic! I was just listening to it today and thought “hey there’s another example of what Yogev what’s talking about!!”
Maybe you should check out Fredrik Thordendal’s Special Defects if you like the fusion parts, it has quite a lot of those moments. And it’s a great album, so if you haven’t, check it out!
Just brilliant! Thank you for the fantastic work. Love these vidoes so much, just an amazing balance of education and entertainment. Keep it up good sir! And really, just drop anything else until the whole Meshuggah library is complete!
@@YogevGabay They are something else! I find everything about them just fascinating. Their history, band dynamics, writing process, everything. And the music... too much just can not be said.
Gotta give a shoutout to the solo section from Entrapment. It would be cool to see you analyze that section actually, since even the solo part is basically all rhythmic. Thanks for these deep dives into Meshuggah as always, love the content!
Nice pics, the riffs of "In Death is Life", "Shed" & "Sum" also among my favorites. Also really digging: - "In Death is Death" (2 min. 55 sec.) - "Dehumanization" (30 sec.)
My friend you have my fullest attention with every one of these uploads your attention to detail is impeccable and much appreciated could you possibly please do this same thing with the destroy erase improve album
The logic to In Death Is Life is 33/8 meters poly'd with the 16 4/4s. Specifically: 4 33 measures with the 3rd one being cut a half note (to make 29), so that the "tail" is not at the end but it's actually the 3rd measure. First 33 is a 10/4 + 13/8 "tail" (the repeat is pretty obvious). The next 33s are pretty arbitrary (maybe now with this understanding you could study them a bit more thoroughly), but the eighth note leading tones make the overarching hypermeter very apparent.
My top 5 in order of favorability would have to be: 1. In Death - Is Death 2:55 2. Sum 1:08 3. In Death - Is Death 0:30 4. Dehumanization 2:09 5. Disenchantment 0:31 If I had to limit the list to one riff per track, I would remove the riff at 0:30 in In Death - Is Death and have 0:45 in Personae Non Gratae at number 5.
Dude I was checking out Tigran Himasyan's Berklee Live stuff after a long time and realised you were one of the drummers... Holy shit man, came here immediately to comment.. PS - Great Video as always!!! Goid Bless man!
Really great. I love this album. It is beautiful and harsh and calm and chaotic. I wish you had covered the solo in Entrapment, though I understand why you chose these riffs over that one.
Awesome as usual! This is funny though that Meshuggah titled this album Catch 33 because they were saying 33 was a number that kept appearing in their lives, like if they noticed it more than usual, yet they don't have any riffs/songs in 33/8 or 33/16 :D (as far as I know, which is actually not very far)
What's coolest to me is riff 4. The second phase of the riff has the clean melody from Mind's Mirrors playing faintly in the background. Nice way to reintroduce a concept from the the first song in the album's middle section (which goes Mirrors/Life/Death) in the song which closes out this section.
Awesome Yogev, no less. What helped me alot understanding Meshuggah is not only by metronome but the use of downbeat vs. backbeat alongside. Instead of using Indian method to count IDID, simply putting in a straight 4/4 beat w kick and snare reveals alot, maybe you can consider throwing that in as well in your videos instead of only metronome.
12:21 I laughed so hard at “NOTHING” 😂😂😂 I answered that same thing as you said it 🤣 Killer video, I loooove the diagrams you use, I find that method to be the most effective way to simultaneously break down what the heck is going on and to internalize/memorize Meshuggah’s riffs. Way easier to visualize that than a bunch of freaking 8th notes and 16ths notes over the bar 😂
They definitely have some 'fusiony' stuff on earlier albums, like the songs Sublevels and Future Breed Machine, both from the Destroy Erase Improve album. You should do an analysis of the Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects album, tons of fusion influence haha
TY Yogev...(long time, no type!) The finger/joint counting tricks/methods makes Meshuggah's (even their NAME is hard to spell!!) music so much easier (for me) to understand. It took my ear away from the harmony (oblivious guitarist here) and allowed me to feel what everyone is playing against, (the drummer, right?). ☺M
I hear the IDID “fusiony” part as not a “stack” but that he’s playing the bass drum loud enough that it’s rattling the snares on the bottom of the snare drum. Which is CRAZY because these are sampled drums, and it’s not every bass drum hit, only the heavy ones. So it means he sampled a “loud” and a “soft” bass drum hit. Or…I’m crazy and those aren’t snares rattling.
The struggle to free myself of restraints, becomes my very polymeter.
Me - the metronome of fear
@@fonesrphunny7242 a mobile skein of tangled notes exposed
Underrated comment
thanks guys I died
You jest, but that is the best executed line in all of music. The way everything drops out, then just drops back in like a bunch of sharks carrying nukes
i love that
"you know what i hate about this band?"
"Nothing."
could theoretically mean you hate the album Nothing, but more likely means you love everything about them.
just like meshuggah riffs you can hear it in different ways.
great catch!
aaaahhhhh, nice!
This band made Nothing good
@@eliasmochan 33
hahahahah niiiceeeeee I didn't even think about it
literally every riff on the album, thats it, thats the best riffs
Yeah, I second that.
Well, me too
12:19 Nothing is actually my favourite album. I'm crying and shaking rn
I always disliked Nothing until they remastered it with their new sound now I think it's amazing. It was a work of genius ruined by bad music production IMHO. So glad they updated the album with their modern sound.
SUCH A GOOD ALBUMMMM
@@WhisperingDeath the remaster sounds like shit. Fake ass programmed drums take all the punch out of the mix.
@@jaakezzz_G Imagine actually being this edgy.
@@WhisperingDeath I dunno, sounds pretty cool raw (original mix)
One syllable. One Vowel. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Acktchyually it's "I"
this part, it always hits home and gives chills, Catch33 is still one of my top meshuggah albums
Best part!
A contender for the heaviest few seconds in metal
That's two syllables, one vowel. It's "IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII"
I'm amazed at how many of these patterns are imprinted on my memory without any understanding of the counting involved in them. Great breakdown and selection of riffs, your explanations are always on point!
You're very welcome!
This is probably one of my favorite albums of all time. It's time frame matched the time it used to take me to cut my yard, so i jammed out to it in my headphones hundreds of times
HAHAHAHHA best !!!!
The "In Death - Is Death" alone, requires a whole video about it :(
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Siamak Gilak Yeah, my favorite riff (from MESHUGGAH!!!) was left out... : ( 2:18 ua-cam.com/video/S4sZtd1qy2k/v-deo.html
in my opinion, this is their darkest, most well-written and hardest hitting album to date. I love how they can somehow make what is essentially just one huge song interesting and perfectly tied together throughout the entire thing without it becoming too repetitive or boring. Disturbingly delicious riffs and drums aside, lyrically it is pure genius. I listened to the section between Mind's Mirrors and the end of In Death is Death on repeat about 20 times the first time i heard it because i just couldnt fathom how any human could write music so incredibly dark that even a singularity would have trouble keeping up
Lyrically dark or just the overall atmosphere
The opening riff is amazing. The mutes are so clean.
Love the video!
Also, one of my favorite moments on the album:
"One syllable, one vowel. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
That opening "aaall of y'all" caught me off guard lol, salud from Texas!
hahahahaha totally
Dehumanization is so sick too. I love the end of Personae non Gratae leading into the crazy intro of Dehumanization.
i love the drop in dehumanization. Absolutely insane
@@dawnderhenkerimo the AAAAAAAAA part in Dehumanisation is the heaviest section of any song ever
Your videos are absolutely necessary to my mental health, please never stop. Also, no Entrapment guitar solo riff ? That thing is totally bonkers. :O
Based guitar solo
Am I the only one who had their mind blown by the Indian Counting method? I have literally never thought of counting like that before.
Truly mind blowing! Lol
There are many like this, give it a search and you'll be amazed.
I'm gonna expand on it a bit in next weeks video also
@@YogevGabay Hell yeah, I love expansion packs. Sign me up!
Yeah it's awesome. As an Indian musician, I have grown up counting like this. So at one point I used to think that's how the whole world does it. I discovered pretty late that it's an Indian thing. Incredibly useful. I literally count everything using this method and it always works no matter how complex it is :D
@@RickrajOfficial Oh hell yeah man it made my life so much easier! I'm not gonna even talk about konnakol. I mean I will, but in next weeks video.
3:28 And yet my understanding of this riff than is better now than it's ever been. Thanks for making this album slightly less incomprehensible, Yogev!
That Indian counting method is absolutely invaluable! Thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
Who would’ve thought that you could come up w riffs that sound like the entire genre of futuristic science fiction. Even though Meshuggah get a lot of respect, I feel like it’s still not enough based on what they truly deserve.
Someone needs to make an app for Yogev to use where he has infinite pieces of any shape in any color, note pads, large numbers, etc, and with a few different backgrounds that he commonly uses. Saving trees is nice and all, but this is about saving time and making videos faster! Yella yella! Next Mayshuggah, I want more Meshuggah per Mayshuggah, so someone make this man an app!
Seriously, though, thank you for doing these videos! These are amazing and I've learned a lot.
man thanks so much ! It is indeed a lot of work so I'm super happy you like it !
Love how some of the riffs that sound less chaotic and more motif driven are actually the through composed riffs that never repeat and have no simple logic. Then some of the shorter cycles are really rough on the ear groove wise.
That 4/4 counting technique was amazing!
I'm in the process of learning this whole album on guitar and I'm stuck in the middle of in Death is Death. This video gave me some inspiration to keep going. Sadly you didn't cover the riff I'm stuck on
You're literally what meshuggah need, but don't know yet.
My favorite album
Unbelievable every time i put It!!
Yogev is the gift that keeps on giving! Amazing as usual.
I feel like you have to have the perfect blooper reel when demonstrating the beats with your fingers. You have the perfect delivery for it, too.
Thank you for this!
I’d just like to express how thankful I am for this video. Catch 33 for the past 6 months has been, I’m not even kidding, all I listen to. In death is life/ in death is death has been a riff that years ago I would only dream of playing. This video has been truly helpful and explanatory. Not overly confusing like others. Thank you so much. 🥺🙏🏻
Oh man you're very welcome !!
The very PEAK CONCEPT ALBUM right HERE!!!!!....pure transcendence in a Hypnotic Loop EXISTENCE!!!
Hell yeah Catch 33, glad you did this album for this weeks video. Stay awesome Yogev!
I had such a blast learning to play this album when it came out. The first track sounds so simple in the ear, but once the riff starts to evolve, it can be really tricky to follow along when you're actually playing it. So many moments of 'holy shit that's cool' and giggling as you go back to play through the section again with what you've learned. My favorite meshuggah album for sure.
you explain music theory so incredibly well! keep it up!
What you do is so important to all rythmicians, musicians and music lovers everywhere ! thank you so much for your content please make more !
Its really interesting and impressive that Meshuggah put the crashes on the "one" for the third riff. It shows they understand exactly what they are doing in their songwriting
Catch 33 and Nothing are my top Meshuggah albums
You know your shit!!!
*0:32** looks weirdly awesome!*
you are amazing!!! these riffs are irreparably ingrained in my brain intuitively, but you are completely blowing my mind by laying them out so systematically! love this channel!
Oh wow, this vid has me sooo close to getting the beat down for that last Sum riff. Mind needs to be so clear to even stand a chance.
Awesome vid, thank you!
You have a great way of breaking down these rythyms, I've listened to these so many times but haven't been able to figure a lot of these out without your help.
thanks Yogev, love these vids
Man, I love Mayshuggah. Yogev you are the best.
Don't struggle to free yourself from the restraints of making this videos dude, amazing stuff!
awesome video, Catch 33 is my favorite Meshuggah album and is very overlooked.
definitely wish you could include the chorus riff from In Death - Is Life (also appears as the midway climax in In Death - Is Death). It's in 52/8 and is one of the heaviest metal riffs I've ever heard /watch?v=VtP7JDDul08&t=235s
I may do a part 2 to this vid so yeah !
@@YogevGabay literally best channel on youtube, your videos make it like im listening to these songs for the first time again. thank you sir
Didnt know I needed this video until now
You give a tangible understanding to such madness, great videos
ho boy! i love that you showed the indian counting technique , its the best way to figure out time. well done!!!!
thank you for this, catch 33 is hands down my favorite album
Such an underrated album. Probably my favorite Meshuggah album. Favorite riff is personae non gratae verse riff
Your video production is outstanding. Hats off to your editing.
please do this whole album, or more. You dod SO WELL on this
Im happy to see this album get the recognition it deserves in the comments. A lot of people originally shunned it because of how it was made, and obviously couldn't understand it. I've always thought it was brilliant and by far their most creative effort. I've heard this album hundreds of times since it came out, way more than any other. The threshold you pass once you know the twists and turns of this album has a satisfactory quality that only us few really understand.
Please keep up the great work. I love Meshuggah series so much ❤
This is so cool. Thank you for covering my favourite Meshuggah album!
I freaking knew it man! I didn't know the specifics, but I knew there was something going on with those first 3 tracks, that the groove was getting shifted over. And that's why the tracks have different names!
Thank you for finally covering stuff from this album!
one of the best albums of all time, definitely my favorite concept album of all time. super mesmerizing, great analysis :D
Check out the 2:48 mark of “Pitch Black” for more of that softer dynamic, funky Meshuggah magic! I was just listening to it today and thought “hey there’s another example of what Yogev what’s talking about!!”
hahahaha YYEEESSSS
Maybe you should check out Fredrik Thordendal’s Special Defects if you like the fusion parts, it has quite a lot of those moments. And it’s a great album, so if you haven’t, check it out!
Just brilliant! Thank you for the fantastic work. Love these vidoes so much, just an amazing balance of education and entertainment. Keep it up good sir! And really, just drop anything else until the whole Meshuggah library is complete!
Thanks a lot Garret!
And yeah man this band will keep me busy for a while hahahahaha
@@YogevGabay They are something else! I find everything about them just fascinating. Their history, band dynamics, writing process, everything. And the music... too much just can not be said.
Thank you Yogev !
Nice choice! Keep up the good work. Very educational.
L:D ratio is spot on. You're consistently killing it, my man
Gotta give a shoutout to the solo section from Entrapment. It would be cool to see you analyze that section actually, since even the solo part is basically all rhythmic. Thanks for these deep dives into Meshuggah as always, love the content!
Nothing and Catch 33 two of their greatest creations.
Nice pics, the riffs of "In Death is Life", "Shed" & "Sum" also among my favorites. Also really digging:
- "In Death is Death" (2 min. 55 sec.)
- "Dehumanization" (30 sec.)
Holy shit, Yogev you did it.
Awesome job!
My friend you have my fullest attention with every one of these uploads your attention to detail is impeccable and much appreciated could you possibly please do this same thing with the destroy erase improve album
The logic to In Death Is Life is 33/8 meters poly'd with the 16 4/4s. Specifically: 4 33 measures with the 3rd one being cut a half note (to make 29), so that the "tail" is not at the end but it's actually the 3rd measure.
First 33 is a 10/4 + 13/8 "tail" (the repeat is pretty obvious). The next 33s are pretty arbitrary (maybe now with this understanding you could study them a bit more thoroughly), but the eighth note leading tones make the overarching hypermeter very apparent.
4:00 Just realised you are actually the drummer of Distorted Harmony , i've been watching you for months that never clicked before . Love that band
Wow I didn’t even know he was in a band, but I should’ve expected it. Definitely checking this out.
hahahah yeah man ! thanks !
You make Meshuggah's music make sense. They are indeed meshuggah (crazy) and I love them for it.
That was excellent 👍🏻
Awesome awesome and awesome how you broke that down and the methods you used.
Glad you liked it!
My top 5 in order of favorability would have to be:
1. In Death - Is Death 2:55
2. Sum 1:08
3. In Death - Is Death 0:30
4. Dehumanization 2:09
5. Disenchantment 0:31
If I had to limit the list to one riff per track, I would remove the riff at 0:30 in In Death - Is Death and have 0:45 in Personae Non Gratae at number 5.
Dude I was checking out Tigran Himasyan's Berklee Live stuff after a long time and realised you were one of the drummers... Holy shit man, came here immediately to comment..
PS - Great Video as always!!! Goid Bless man!
Oh yeah! Me and my bro Maxime Cholley. Man that show was epic
Yogev, in some point would be interesting if you talk about Ron Jarzombek and Blooted Science.
Man spastic ink was the first time i've heard 5 over 4 hahaha love that band
Really great. I love this album. It is beautiful and harsh and calm and chaotic. I wish you had covered the solo in Entrapment, though I understand why you chose these riffs over that one.
Great suggestion! I'm thinking about a part 2 to this anyway because there are so many more
Awesome as usual!
This is funny though that Meshuggah titled this album Catch 33 because they were saying 33 was a number that kept appearing in their lives, like if they noticed it more than usual, yet they don't have any riffs/songs in 33/8 or 33/16 :D (as far as I know, which is actually not very far)
Good stuff man, thanks for all your crazy research 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Thank you, very interesting and educational video. :)
What's coolest to me is riff 4. The second phase of the riff has the clean melody from Mind's Mirrors playing faintly in the background. Nice way to reintroduce a concept from the the first song in the album's middle section (which goes Mirrors/Life/Death) in the song which closes out this section.
I'm so glad Strong Bad started a youtube channel to teach us Meshuggah
Ah shucks I was hoping for the outro riff. That shit slaps!!! Awesome video tho ❤
Another great video dude
Catch 33 is probably my fav album. I used to listed to it nightly while drifting off to sleep
6k views, 1.1k likes, 0 dislikes. I've never seen stats like this on youtube. Really correlates with the quality
Man thank you so much. You have no idea how you guys in the comment make me feel with these remarks !
🤯🤯🤯 cool counting method! So simple & effective
You're a king!
I Love Meshuggah! Perfect.
Awesome Yogev, no less. What helped me alot understanding Meshuggah is not only by metronome but the use of downbeat vs. backbeat alongside. Instead of using Indian method to count IDID, simply putting in a straight 4/4 beat w kick and snare reveals alot, maybe you can consider throwing that in as well in your videos instead of only metronome.
12:21 I laughed so hard at “NOTHING” 😂😂😂 I answered that same thing as you said it 🤣
Killer video, I loooove the diagrams you use, I find that method to be the most effective way to simultaneously break down what the heck is going on and to internalize/memorize Meshuggah’s riffs. Way easier to visualize that than a bunch of freaking 8th notes and 16ths notes over the bar 😂
Oh amen to that man. Meshuggah in standard western notation is soooooo complicated
They definitely have some 'fusiony' stuff on earlier albums, like the songs Sublevels and Future Breed Machine, both from the Destroy Erase Improve album. You should do an analysis of the Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects album, tons of fusion influence haha
Just perfect.
Thank you! God damn this was good
Yeps ... I'm compelled. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻 Love it.
No dislikes so far, hard to dislike his dedication and hard work
It's still going strong! Don't jinx it!
3:55 did you try Morse code ?
7:40 GENIUS
Fuckkk Morse Code could definitely be something! These guys are geniuses
TY Yogev...(long time, no type!) The finger/joint counting tricks/methods makes Meshuggah's (even their NAME is hard to spell!!) music so much easier (for me) to understand. It took my ear away from the harmony (oblivious guitarist here) and allowed me to feel what everyone is playing against, (the drummer, right?). ☺M
Oh great! If it helped, I'm happy
Your intelligence is mind freeing (sounds like a paradox but if you were in my brain learning this piece you would understand). Thanks for your brain.
I hear the IDID “fusiony” part as not a “stack” but that he’s playing the bass drum loud enough that it’s rattling the snares on the bottom of the snare drum. Which is CRAZY because these are sampled drums, and it’s not every bass drum hit, only the heavy ones. So it means he sampled a “loud” and a “soft” bass drum hit. Or…I’m crazy and those aren’t snares rattling.
amazing video!
No mention of the metronome you can quietly hear in the calm part of "In Death - Is Death"?
Really ?!
@@YogevGabay There's some clicking in the section from ~9:42-9:46 (last note before the final guitar part), but it's really quiet.