I’ve personally been really enjoying Motorsport, I find the multiplayer racing to be much closer and meaningful than any previous title. I would love to see some Hoki community races in the future!
@@XAV-117 I do have a few issues (duplicate cars needing to be levelled individually, and poor optimization graphically on xb series S), but would otherwise agree
@okay7332 PS fanboy including the ponies trashtuber jumping on Xbox games hate wagon. It's the same when Starfield release, the game isn't perfect yet it got non sense amount of hate due tue Trashtuber and paid shills journalists who give low score even though the real score is much higher than that dumb review. Just ignore dishonest youtuber like Super GT and others. They are paid shills BS !!
@@runninginthe90s75It's not that It isnt perfect, but for a game allegedly been built from the "ground up", people just expected more. Microsoft just has grown complacent with no direct competition on the Xbox/PC market, and FM7 as well as FH5 are proof of that.
Yep, so far very much enjoying it, I actually like leveling up the cars one by one, getting to learn it's shortfalls and the upgrading to specifically fix those issues. Also mean, I am more invested in each vehicle, rather than just trying to min-max car stats. I've actually also improved in the game just from having to race cars without my usual upgrades.
One crucial tip for any newcomers to Forza(or even experienced players who hadn't realised it) is that the braking guide gives you all the information you need to brake perfectly: the reason it's orange and red is because you need to try and turn the red parts orange as you brake. By carefully controlling your brake input(on pedals or on controller) and gently pressing the brake as you hit the orange part, you will turn the red parts ahead of you the same colour as the orange parts. This is basically what you want to do with every corner. Always aims to turn the red parts orange. This way you carry much, much more speed through corners. (It also makes trail braking possible, but that's a different story and I don't want to overcomplicate things.) So if you dive into a corner and slam on the brakes when you hit the red parts you're missing out on what the braking guide is telling you to do. This is such a crucial piece of info, and the game doesn't explain the meaning of the different colours in the braking guideline at any point.
@@SenorBolsa Yes, it's very conservative. Once you learn the principle behind those braking lines you can start pushing further and further and braking later and later. The only places where the braking line doesn't give you much leeway is in hairpins, very tight corners in general. In those sections it's best to stick close to it. Eventually it's best to be without a guide line at all so you can figure out braking distances instinctively, but that takes a while so never be ashamed of using the guideline.
I got reminded real fast that I wasn't playing Horizon when I understeered straight into a wall in I think the very first corner of the first intro race lol. Really liking how this feels so far, especially with the wheel settings dialed in and a solid tune.
I can't get my wheel settings dialed in. This is the first game where it feels like rather than my wheel having the feeling of a return to centering effect, that centering stability is gone and my wheel feels more like it wants to turn to the right or left more than staying centered.
@@kartzzy6101 Try the forums in a few days if you still can't figure it out. I am sure there will be folks with the same wheel as you who have found some good settings by then :)
It doesn't help they start you in an C8 which is nortorus for understeer in real life... Which this game does feel really stiuff as well not as bad as GT7 but let's say the 2018 Mustang GT in this game makes it hard for you to overdrive and get sideways while my 2020 Ecoboost mustang premium IRL makes way to easy to... You know with 200 less Horse powe and much less engine weight.
I've watched alot of "tips" type videos for every racing game I've been interested in. Usually... it's always common sense stuff. This video is actually very informative... thank you!
Honestly I feel like this motorsport is exactly what I needed to get more into the racing sim genre. I started with Asetto Corsa, which was fun and all but felt really lonely and I never felt very confident to run in public event lobbies, so I never did. I feel like this is a great way for me to improve as a sim racer, in a public online curated system without breaking the bank (iRacing lol). The campaign is fun to play with and learn the game, tracks, and play random cars. I'm excited to keep diving deeper and trying more cars that I never thought I'd be into.
To be honest Assetto Corsa barely has content, physics and mod is the only thing saved this boring game. If it wasn't for that then AC will be dead already. iRacing is much better than AC and content wise FM 2023 is miles ahead of AC.
@@runninginthe90s75Yeah, I could never understand the praise for AC other than being the Bethesda equivalent of a racing game, moddable to hell and back.
Interesting that you can seemingly level up your car in free race and it will carry over to career. Might grind out my Alfa Giulietta so I can run it in the hot hatch cup.
12:38 I don't give space, I _take_ it! In grade school I always got low marks on "Plays Well With Others." Now I'm a U.N. peace negotiator; and I'm CRUSHING it!
Your videos helped me back when FH4 was new & started getting use to tuning. Now I've forgotten all of that so looking forward to your in depth tuning guides.
In Rivals, the skip lap feature is really good and I'm so happy that was added in. The online private multiplayer settings are really cool as I had a lobby with friends the other night and we just messed around around Silverstone with a variety of cars having a laugh. Group grinding is a good laugh in those lobbies. Thanks for the tips Hoshi :)
UGH, Silverstone is the worst 'race' track in the world. Totally flat, so most bends are blind, and it's like every corner was designed to destroy fluid driving and enjoyment. They should should dig up the site and return the land to nature.
Your settings are ok for a beginner sim driver. Pros- easy to drive, good track feel. Cons- wheel has no weight, doesn’t center like true car/sim, almost no force feedback felt.
Maybe bc this is not a true sim racing, tbh any racing that is designed for controller isnt a true sim racing, but its not necessarily a bad thing, as this is a middle ground between a game like ACC and forza horizon. And games like ACC or iracing etc can be too intimidating for average players especially as it requires u a good wheel and setup.
As one who's still learning to drive on the wheel, i look forward to the wheel setup vid. I did wanna ask since you brought up replays, does it play the whole thing? In FM7, my replays would only play the first 20 min or so
Can I give one really crucial tip that I, as someone who's been playing Forza for seven solid years now, ONLY JUST learned(I'm embarrassed) - it's about cornering, braking and how to respond to the on-screen driving line. I only just realised, and I've played thousands and thousands(literally) of hours of Forza, that the braking line is two different colours for a reason. When you hit the orange part of the cornering/braking line, you must gently(very gently) squeeze the brakes, until the rest of the braking line(the part that's ahead of you) goes from red to orange. Unless I'm missing something else, you should be trying to get the red parts to turn orange through very subtle brake input. This way you carry much, much more speed through corners and you end up being significantly quicker. I'm not exaggerating when I say this has completely changed the way I race in Forza, and I only figured it out the day before yesterday. It's genuinely crucial if you want to be any good against decent AI. I was getting vapourised in Motorsport before I figured this out. Same rules obviously apply on a wheel and pedals, only it should be much easier since at the very least you'll have a brake pedal, and maybe even a load cell pedal. Hope this helps any newcomers.
@@spandel100 Nothing makes me angrier than the weekly Forzathon Trials in FH The general shittiness of everyone's behaviour...we're on the same f***ing team lol
I just got my first car to level 30. I can’t wait for the tuning guide because it appears there are some different options or they just worded something differently. Trust your input Hoki Hoshi I assume tuning will be radically different from FH5 and all. I’d rather not fiddle around with a car myself until some insight is given. Also a mathematical disability hinders my ability to understand suspension.
If a car has 45 55 front to rear weight. The spring stiffness should start at the same ratio, so 450 pounds to 550 roughly adjust for weight of car then just adjust from that initial balance
I'm really struggling with my Logitech wheel on my Xbox. I find that going into Corners under braking it tends to break Traction in the car absolutely feels like it is on ice and go straight there's absolutely no recovering it and until you get down to about five miles an hour you can't even get the tires to get grip to get back on track. Sometimes it's okay and works perfect and other times it does this is just sporadic and I'm confused as to why I tried settings for hours and nothing helps
Been absolutely loving my time playing on Xbox xcloud via my phone but only downside is there isn't controller vibration support and I feel that will be slowing me down down the road especially in multiplayer
Btw the StarFlameAmy that was me in the opening of the video. I kinda figured you would be making a video sorry if I was all over the place lol I'm not the best
I think they should change the upgrades to credits again but have the builder cup as an additional option on its own for any CAR-PG enjoyers - maybe limit it to career mode rather than across the entire game. 😊
Cool Set of Tips.....Nice One, Cheers !! I have a quick question for you..... Regarding the Qualifying Tip you gave, is it possible to use / do this (or a similar thing) when playing Solo / Career Races ?? Thanks in Advance for Any Help / Info, Keep Up the Great Work !!
10:06 Thank you I was complaining about the default FOV has your guy whearing a Rift DV1 siting walwugi style on the wheel... I prefer "seeing" all 3 mirrors as I do IRL so I don't "Need " no proxy arrows.
This is the first Forza Motorsport I've played a lot since FM4 on the 360. It's really sad how they reduced the game to almost nothing - even the physics are no better. The game modes and UI/menus is awful now - there's no leaderboards for each track, let alone each track for each PI class, and you can't even sort cars according to speed or handling, etc, any more. No mini games or the huge checklist of events to tick off - just a boring and pointless 'career' mode. Even the vinyl decals haven't changed - actually I think some have been removed. The driving is good, but there's not point in playing, especially as there's no time trial leaderboards - leaderboards are only for Rivals with a default car, so if you like TTs/ghost attack, and tuning, that's all gone. 5/10.
They should make it so that if you sell a leveled car then you get those level points to spend on whatever car, or just make it for the specific model so that the next one you get as a prize can have it applied.
The cars are so understeery don’t be afraid to do major adjustments to the roll bars. If you made this level of changes in sims you would crash but in FM seems fairly insensitive to them.
Also I've noticed a lot of the cars by default have the front tires about 5 PSI higher than the rear. Which is... a choice... a little extra in the front can kill some unwanted understeer sometimes and improve turn in but +5 is going to be right at the edge of the optimum range and cause understeer. Wait until you try and trail brake the Integra R though 😂 stock setup is whack, they like to rotate IRL but it's just bananas in FM.
I have been enjoying the game after the update, didnt like the game at release but the more I understood tuning and what parts do what, the more I enjoyed it and I love tuning my own cars and fix the flaws and adjust it precisely to my driving. I am just hopping for turn 10 to optimize the game better and remove the bugs. As there are still tons of performance issues and stutters, and for gods sake fix the washed out graphics and colors, I have fixed the color issues with nvidia freestyle, but come on it doesnt look like a 2023 game.
Nah, once you pick a car for a series, you use that car for the rest of the series. You can always restart at any point though and pick a different car! As for your paint question - outside of adjusting color and finish there really isn't much you can do to make a wheel "more" black - maybe try a more matte finish?
Does anyone feel like 6/8 difficulty is harder than ever? The a.i just gaps me. Crazy I've played every Forza and I seem to be going through it at what was a difficulty I used to have a good amount of challenge and prosper before.
Do you have any recommendations for Steering Self Alignment for controllers? It’s new to Forza, and the default setting (max) seems to make tap steering more difficult than previous titles. It counter-steers too quickly and makes it difficult to hold the line around corners. Curious why the default setting is so high.
I think they should keep the car levels but make it so that the upgrade unlocks are only there in the builders cup, allow us to upgrade our cars however we want in free play and private multiplayer but for the builders cup keep it so that upgrades are behind levels because in the builders cup it feels fantastic to level up your car, unlocking new upgrades, making your car better race by race
I would say car level is important overall, but it's locking things behind the level itself that is.. sad. We need to be able to purchase any part we want from the get-go as long as we have the right amount of car points.
Something that was really irritating in 7 was all of the classes had so many restrictions. I couldn’t just take an S class car that I had modded into the race. It had to be a 2 door coupe between the years of 97-99 from Germany with no engine modifications, sport tires, and had to weigh more than 3800lbs. Like wtf.
Great game. This old man needs some practice tho. I got into gaming later than most so ive never played a forza title at launch. I thought we empahized clean racing tho lmao im just getting into the feel and then boom someone slams right into me im like what the hell lol
@@brawler5760 I think so? Unless I got lucky and just got a really clean lobby, there was one guy in one of the races who was a bit dirty with me but I’ve been on GT7 for the last 9 months and almost every single race I get punted or spun so FM has been a pleasant surprise!
I have a question about steering settings for the users that have controllers and the settings that you showed in this video are they the ones that you used ? Any suggestions?
I actually play primarily on a wheel, so I'm probably not the best person to ask about perfect controller settings - but that said, what you saw in the video is what I use when playing on controller!
Anyway to make the cars more playful and drifty around turns while racing? I have traction control off? They should be sliding a lot more. I should be able to slide the M3 around turns
Does sim steering actually reduce the time it takes the wheel to turn when you flick the stick? Or does it still only really effect counter steering. Even with sim steering on in FM7, it'd take well over a second to fully change direction of the wheels in some cases, compared to a fraction of the time in prior games like FM4
Sim steering here is closer to the FM7/FH5 style of sim steering where it still has some level of input "smoothing" to more closely mimic how fast you can turn an actual wheel. You don't get that practically 1:1 joystick to steering output like older games had
@@HokiHoshithat's a shame. Even the old games had smoothing, you don't want to spin out because of a twitchy thumb for example, but sims like assetto (yes, I play controller on sims) let you adjust the level of this smoothing because at the end of the day it's entirely arbitrary and is a tradeoff between precision and difficulty. FH5 is much faster than FM7. Obviously the arcade handling helps. Here's hoping the new motorsport is somewhere in between
@@existentialselkath1264 you got to be kiding. The guys that created AC and ACC should take notes from FM on how to properly implement controller racing. I spent 20+ hours on ACC and tried every controller setting under the sun and still couldn't get anything decent. 10 mins into FM I already had a very nice experience, that I know I'll be able to adjust and make those settings grow with my driving experience.
@@javierm_uk1588 I never said their controller experience was better. I'm just saying that even with all their lacklustre support, they still have an option that would be useful in forza. Turns out the default setting is actually pretty decent in 8 anyway, nowhere near as sluggish as 7, so it's all good
Looking forward to the wheel setup guide, I think the game feels fine on default settings but I get a constant vibration when I’m on center and it’d quite annoying. Tried turning off vibration but that made no difference so I need some help here. I’m on a new to me thrustmaster tx
love your content, thanks. I am about to buy FMS but unsure weather to get std, deluxe or premium addition, Premium looks good, what would you recommend? thanks😀
Get the most expensive one as you get double credits or money to upgrade cars, I know from previous forza versions you get double credits as opposed of buying the cheapest version
Unfortunately I think you're alone on this one. I personally am on the fence. People are saying this is just "to get you to play more" as a cop out, but really it's probably designed to get you to focus on specific cars and less playing random cars. In a lot of proper sim games they also reward you for learning specific cars, and I guess this is forza's way of doing that. Either way I'm enjoying the game.
I wouldn’t mind this so much if it allowed me to choose any upgrade that I want it as long as I have the points for it. The way things work now it’s going to get kind of old real fast. Also, if I have two of the same cars that should count as levels for that car.
@@Lenron-B06 i understand not everyone likes it, but dude plenty to play this year go play something else, don't come online and bitch and cry to somebody else who does like it..great year for games.
Ok I’ll bite! I don’t like the upgrade system. Artificially locking certain things away, takes away the immediate freedom of seeing where your car is lacking and removing the problem. I found in my short time with the game last night I couldn’t be bothered working out what was locked or unlocked, so I just hit ‘auto-upgrade’ and went racing. It’s taken away the engineering aspect of racing, which lets face it, is a massive part, and has replaced it with, “press Y to be more competitive’. There, take that! 😅 edit: to be fair, it’s the only thing I didn’t like, loved the weighty physics and general feel of the cars.
@@khimarosI mean there could be a decent fix, dunno if it’s that easy though since I’m not a game dev. Maybe car points should be rewarded while having everything available to us right out of the gate.
@@khimarossure u can auto upgrade, but its not even close to how personally upgrade and tune the car. I highly suggest that u get into tuning and upgrading ur car urself. And to know what is unlocked and locked is the same for evey car when they level up. After 1 or 2 cars ull get the hung of it. But the engineering is definitely still there and I love it, and the option to have a credit system where u cant just buy every upgrade is awesome too, as it forces u to adjust the car to ur driving style.
@@mr.darknight416 Got to admit I was wrong about the upgrade system, I have actually really enjoyed it. It does force your hand into tuning yourself and the satisfaction of going through the process and trying to find more lap time has been really rewarding. I've won a few races in cars I've tuned myself now and it feels fantastic. I have however, struggled to make my own tuned cars as competitive as the class leaders in say, the A class lobby. I guess I've still got a lot to learn! Edit: Also, they've made it really obvious in the tuning menu what's been upgraded and what's locked, so you can very quickly go through and swap things out. It's a much better system than I initially gave them credit for.
@@khimaros glad ur enjoying urself, yes it has a learning phase and I am ok not being 1st all the time, but ill get there once I learn the tuning, its better than downloading someone elses tune without knowing anything and lose the most enjoying aspect of the game
When you're talking about preserving Fuel and Tyres, that knowledge works in the real world - where is the proof it works in the game? I genuinely don't believe Turn10 has implemented that much detail 🤔
Another tip: Transmission assists Automatic is good if you're brand new, but Manual should be the norm to shoot for. Manual w/ Clutch is a bit more tricky in this installment but it seems vehicles with sequential transmissions aren't affected by Manual w/ Clutch, so many of the modern GT and Prototypes won't be affected.
1:09 I just 3ish pits on 24 laps at Indi speedway even though I had half fuel each time so should have had 12 laps in the 2018 V8 Mustang... And I also most won despite the AI surly taking full tanks and no stops as they drove slow... Thenb again I had to have been getting 10MPG so as I bearly slowed to under 100MPH and nearly maxed out the car... So yeah in the pits that estmat is mid fuel economy not all out or conservative but the in race gauge is very correct... Which I started 7th and got 2nd like 3 times during that race as each ppit was stupid fast... New meta of less gas more pits?
What are the differences in the `VIP crown? I'm highly confused about it, I have the Premium Edition (most expensive one) and it shows the same crown as yours.
I've been trying to get into motorsport but I am terribly struggling with these handling physics and every single car I've driven so far understeers worse than anything I've driven in horizon 5, it's kinda weird
I heard some of it has to do with the front tire PSI being higher than it should be, but I dunno. Gonna wait until Hoki releases a video on this subject.
Can i use my DD if its unsupported? Can i move the camera forward, backward or up and down in ANY camera view? And im not talking about FOV. I need these options. Also Can i turn off the windshield reflections, so I can see the road without interruption
A question, how does the manual with clutch now work in motorsport? because so far I can't get the hang off it, I know they got rid of the powershifting advantage thing but I'm a little confused. Nevermind worked it out now haha😊
I’ve personally been really enjoying Motorsport, I find the multiplayer racing to be much closer and meaningful than any previous title. I would love to see some Hoki community races in the future!
@@XAV-117 I do have a few issues (duplicate cars needing to be levelled individually, and poor optimization graphically on xb series S), but would otherwise agree
@okay7332 PS fanboy including the ponies trashtuber jumping on Xbox games hate wagon. It's the same when Starfield release, the game isn't perfect yet it got non sense amount of hate due tue Trashtuber and paid shills journalists who give low score even though the real score is much higher than that dumb review. Just ignore dishonest youtuber like Super GT and others. They are paid shills BS !!
@@runninginthe90s75It's not that It isnt perfect, but for a game allegedly been built from the "ground up", people just expected more.
Microsoft just has grown complacent with no direct competition on the Xbox/PC market, and FM7 as well as FH5 are proof of that.
Yep, so far very much enjoying it, I actually like leveling up the cars one by one, getting to learn it's shortfalls and the upgrading to specifically fix those issues. Also mean, I am more invested in each vehicle, rather than just trying to min-max car stats. I've actually also improved in the game just from having to race cars without my usual upgrades.
Agree, the wheel to wheel racing is actually great compared to older titles
One crucial tip for any newcomers to Forza(or even experienced players who hadn't realised it) is that the braking guide gives you all the information you need to brake perfectly: the reason it's orange and red is because you need to try and turn the red parts orange as you brake.
By carefully controlling your brake input(on pedals or on controller) and gently pressing the brake as you hit the orange part, you will turn the red parts ahead of you the same colour as the orange parts. This is basically what you want to do with every corner. Always aims to turn the red parts orange. This way you carry much, much more speed through corners. (It also makes trail braking possible, but that's a different story and I don't want to overcomplicate things.)
So if you dive into a corner and slam on the brakes when you hit the red parts you're missing out on what the braking guide is telling you to do. This is such a crucial piece of info, and the game doesn't explain the meaning of the different colours in the braking guideline at any point.
Thanks.
I think it's worth noting it's usually pretty conservative, it's a great place to start and then you can approach the limit from there.
@@SenorBolsa Yes, it's very conservative. Once you learn the principle behind those braking lines you can start pushing further and further and braking later and later. The only places where the braking line doesn't give you much leeway is in hairpins, very tight corners in general. In those sections it's best to stick close to it.
Eventually it's best to be without a guide line at all so you can figure out braking distances instinctively, but that takes a while so never be ashamed of using the guideline.
Use RT on controller to accelerate
@@Jack-yo5ki I don't think you actually got what I was saying. It sounds obvious: it really isn't.
I got reminded real fast that I wasn't playing Horizon when I understeered straight into a wall in I think the very first corner of the first intro race lol. Really liking how this feels so far, especially with the wheel settings dialed in and a solid tune.
I felt like a professional in FH5 with 0 assists, and I flew right into a wall on basically the first turn on Motorsport as well😂
I can't get my wheel settings dialed in. This is the first game where it feels like rather than my wheel having the feeling of a return to centering effect, that centering stability is gone and my wheel feels more like it wants to turn to the right or left more than staying centered.
@@kartzzy6101 Try the forums in a few days if you still can't figure it out. I am sure there will be folks with the same wheel as you who have found some good settings by then :)
It doesn't help they start you in an C8 which is nortorus for understeer in real life... Which this game does feel really stiuff as well not as bad as GT7 but let's say the 2018 Mustang GT in this game makes it hard for you to overdrive and get sideways while my 2020 Ecoboost mustang premium IRL makes way to easy to... You know with 200 less Horse powe and much less engine weight.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough And it’s the E-Ray too, which weighs a shit ton more than the regular C8.
I've watched alot of "tips" type videos for every racing game I've been interested in. Usually... it's always common sense stuff. This video is actually very informative... thank you!
13:33 Remember to also leave Rewind on when offline as it can let you learn a track much faster while having more fun then reseting or coming in last.
Im really loving the game, the sound design and the graphics are so amazing, also the feel of the cars is really good.
Honestly I feel like this motorsport is exactly what I needed to get more into the racing sim genre. I started with Asetto Corsa, which was fun and all but felt really lonely and I never felt very confident to run in public event lobbies, so I never did. I feel like this is a great way for me to improve as a sim racer, in a public online curated system without breaking the bank (iRacing lol).
The campaign is fun to play with and learn the game, tracks, and play random cars. I'm excited to keep diving deeper and trying more cars that I never thought I'd be into.
To be honest Assetto Corsa barely has content, physics and mod is the only thing saved this boring game. If it wasn't for that then AC will be dead already. iRacing is much better than AC and content wise FM 2023 is miles ahead of AC.
@@runninginthe90s75 iRacing is also absurdly expensive.
@@runninginthe90s75Yeah, I could never understand the praise for AC other than being the Bethesda equivalent of a racing game, moddable to hell and back.
The fact you have to factor in fuel and tire consumption makes me pumped 😊
The amount of available setup in multiplayer looks very promising for the racing leagues 👌
Indeed it does 👀 now we just really need a spectate mode 🤞😅
I cant wait until my cars finish driving themselves to level 50 so I can finally start playing, looks fun! 😂
LOL
Interesting that you can seemingly level up your car in free race and it will carry over to career. Might grind out my Alfa Giulietta so I can run it in the hot hatch cup.
Looking forward to the wheel setup guide, especially because I think you have the TX which should be similar to my T300
12:38 I don't give space, I _take_ it! In grade school I always got low marks on "Plays Well With Others." Now I'm a U.N. peace negotiator; and I'm CRUSHING it!
Your videos helped me back when FH4 was new & started getting use to tuning. Now I've forgotten all of that so looking forward to your in depth tuning guides.
Thx for the dead zones on joystick information. Subscribed
I really enjoy driving in FM - it drives so much easier compared to FM7 which felt like you're on skates, constantly sliding. thanks for the tips!
I haven't played a Motorsport game since 4 (have been playing a lot of Horizon 5 though). It's harder than I remember.
Forza Motorsport is always harder than Horizon but you will be surprised at how harder FM 2023 which is a good thing.
In Rivals, the skip lap feature is really good and I'm so happy that was added in. The online private multiplayer settings are really cool as I had a lobby with friends the other night and we just messed around around Silverstone with a variety of cars having a laugh. Group grinding is a good laugh in those lobbies. Thanks for the tips Hoshi :)
UGH, Silverstone is the worst 'race' track in the world. Totally flat, so most bends are blind, and it's like every corner was designed to destroy fluid driving and enjoyment. They should should dig up the site and return the land to nature.
I haven't played multiple player yet been playing the campaign and I love it it's so much fun and not boring at all
Great video! Very comprehensive. I appreciate a simple guide on tuning as it seems overwhelming 😅
Your settings are ok for a beginner sim driver. Pros- easy to drive, good track feel. Cons- wheel has no weight, doesn’t center like true car/sim, almost no force feedback felt.
Maybe bc this is not a true sim racing, tbh any racing that is designed for controller isnt a true sim racing, but its not necessarily a bad thing, as this is a middle ground between a game like ACC and forza horizon. And games like ACC or iracing etc can be too intimidating for average players especially as it requires u a good wheel and setup.
Waiting for your wheel setup video!
As one who's still learning to drive on the wheel, i look forward to the wheel setup vid. I did wanna ask since you brought up replays, does it play the whole thing? In FM7, my replays would only play the first 20 min or so
Can I give one really crucial tip that I, as someone who's been playing Forza for seven solid years now, ONLY JUST learned(I'm embarrassed) - it's about cornering, braking and how to respond to the on-screen driving line.
I only just realised, and I've played thousands and thousands(literally) of hours of Forza, that the braking line is two different colours for a reason. When you hit the orange part of the cornering/braking line, you must gently(very gently) squeeze the brakes, until the rest of the braking line(the part that's ahead of you) goes from red to orange. Unless I'm missing something else, you should be trying to get the red parts to turn orange through very subtle brake input.
This way you carry much, much more speed through corners and you end up being significantly quicker.
I'm not exaggerating when I say this has completely changed the way I race in Forza, and I only figured it out the day before yesterday. It's genuinely crucial if you want to be any good against decent AI. I was getting vapourised in Motorsport before I figured this out.
Same rules obviously apply on a wheel and pedals, only it should be much easier since at the very least you'll have a brake pedal, and maybe even a load cell pedal.
Hope this helps any newcomers.
Most drivers in Horizon use the car in front of them to brake...,which I find greatly annoying.Not quite the same thing here lol.
@@spandel100 Nothing makes me angrier than the weekly Forzathon Trials in FH
The general shittiness of everyone's behaviour...we're on the same f***ing team lol
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I just got my first car to level 30. I can’t wait for the tuning guide because it appears there are some different options or they just worded something differently.
Trust your input Hoki Hoshi
I assume tuning will be radically different from FH5 and all. I’d rather not fiddle around with a car myself until some insight is given.
Also a mathematical disability hinders my ability to understand suspension.
If a car has 45 55 front to rear weight. The spring stiffness should start at the same ratio, so 450 pounds to 550 roughly adjust for weight of car then just adjust from that initial balance
Im slowly catching your BTCC civic time in my renault 8 gordini.
What track? Looks like I'll have to go back and set a faster time there 😅
Loving the game, tried your wheel setup with my csl dd and works great!!🤛
This is all really useful information. Many thanks.
QT: The "Brake Only Line " is good for WET weather!! and/ or worn Tires
Honestly loving this game! Finally something fun from forza, horizon 5 was a nightmare from release 😢
I'm really struggling with my Logitech wheel on my Xbox. I find that going into Corners under braking it tends to break Traction in the car absolutely feels like it is on ice and go straight there's absolutely no recovering it and until you get down to about five miles an hour you can't even get the tires to get grip to get back on track. Sometimes it's okay and works perfect and other times it does this is just sporadic and I'm confused as to why I tried settings for hours and nothing helps
Great video! A lot of useful tips, thanks a lot!👍👍👍 Can you make a video about how to tune cars? would be great. Keep up the good work.
Been absolutely loving my time playing on Xbox xcloud via my phone but only downside is there isn't controller vibration support and I feel that will be slowing me down down the road especially in multiplayer
Btw the StarFlameAmy that was me in the opening of the video. I kinda figured you would be making a video sorry if I was all over the place lol I'm not the best
Heyy no worries at all! Its a new game for all of us 😅
The feeling of driving a car in Motorsport is totally different than horizon..need more time to practice.
The sense of speed in FH5 is a lot more pronounced.
@spandel100 Totally disagree, FM 2023 has better sense of speed and its more realistic
Very helpful thank you 🖤
I think they should change the upgrades to credits again but have the builder cup as an additional option on its own for any CAR-PG enjoyers - maybe limit it to career mode rather than across the entire game. 😊
Really happy with this game only this is where is NURBURGRING!!
They need to put the cycled spec races that switch vehicle every race they also should make practice shorter and races longer
Cool Set of Tips.....Nice One, Cheers !!
I have a quick question for you.....
Regarding the Qualifying Tip you gave, is it possible to use / do this (or a similar thing) when playing Solo / Career Races ??
Thanks in Advance for Any Help / Info,
Keep Up the Great Work !!
10:06 Thank you I was complaining about the default FOV has your guy whearing a Rift DV1 siting walwugi style on the wheel... I prefer "seeing" all 3 mirrors as I do IRL so I don't "Need " no proxy arrows.
If the cars are similar it's down to the driver then better racing that way more fun imo
Maybe a quick video on display settings? Thanks for this vid again
Update your wheel and pedal firmware too!
I kinda understand what they were trying with upgrades at least cars seem priced better
This is the first Forza Motorsport I've played a lot since FM4 on the 360. It's really sad how they reduced the game to almost nothing - even the physics are no better. The game modes and UI/menus is awful now - there's no leaderboards for each track, let alone each track for each PI class, and you can't even sort cars according to speed or handling, etc, any more. No mini games or the huge checklist of events to tick off - just a boring and pointless 'career' mode. Even the vinyl decals haven't changed - actually I think some have been removed. The driving is good, but there's not point in playing, especially as there's no time trial leaderboards - leaderboards are only for Rivals with a default car, so if you like TTs/ghost attack, and tuning, that's all gone. 5/10.
They should make it so that if you sell a leveled car then you get those level points to spend on whatever car, or just make it for the specific model so that the next one you get as a prize can have it applied.
How do you play this game early?
The cars are so understeery don’t be afraid to do major adjustments to the roll bars. If you made this level of changes in sims you would crash but in FM seems fairly insensitive to them.
Also I've noticed a lot of the cars by default have the front tires about 5 PSI higher than the rear. Which is... a choice... a little extra in the front can kill some unwanted understeer sometimes and improve turn in but +5 is going to be right at the edge of the optimum range and cause understeer.
Wait until you try and trail brake the Integra R though 😂 stock setup is whack, they like to rotate IRL but it's just bananas in FM.
Especially while braking. For some reason I can’t steer through a corner if I’m on the brakes at any pressure
Really waiting for a steering wheel setup guide. : )
I have been enjoying the game after the update, didnt like the game at release but the more I understood tuning and what parts do what, the more I enjoyed it and I love tuning my own cars and fix the flaws and adjust it precisely to my driving. I am just hopping for turn 10 to optimize the game better and remove the bugs. As there are still tons of performance issues and stutters, and for gods sake fix the washed out graphics and colors, I have fixed the color issues with nvidia freestyle, but come on it doesnt look like a 2023 game.
thanks for this dude
Or how about changing vehicle while in a builders cup? I tried to switch between vehicles but doesn’t seem you can?
Nah, once you pick a car for a series, you use that car for the rest of the series. You can always restart at any point though and pick a different car! As for your paint question - outside of adjusting color and finish there really isn't much you can do to make a wheel "more" black - maybe try a more matte finish?
@@HokiHoshi yeah I tried the black so maybe I’ll something else. It would be cool tho to be able to switch
Does anyone feel like 6/8 difficulty is harder than ever? The a.i just gaps me. Crazy I've played every Forza and I seem to be going through it at what was a difficulty I used to have a good amount of challenge and prosper before.
If I go above 6 there's almost always one car which I can never catch, sometimes it's a couple seconds per lap in front of car two
I’ve actually gotten the hang of 6 AI difficulty and it isn’t that hard. Depends on the track though
Watching this while my car is driving itself around maple valley to level up
Same
Do you have any recommendations for Steering Self Alignment for controllers? It’s new to Forza, and the default setting (max) seems to make tap steering more difficult than previous titles. It counter-steers too quickly and makes it difficult to hold the line around corners. Curious why the default setting is so high.
I’m having sm fun idc I feel like I’m back in Motorsport 4 lol
I think they should keep the car levels but make it so that the upgrade unlocks are only there in the builders cup, allow us to upgrade our cars however we want in free play and private multiplayer but for the builders cup keep it so that upgrades are behind levels because in the builders cup it feels fantastic to level up your car, unlocking new upgrades, making your car better race by race
I would say car level is important overall, but it's locking things behind the level itself that is.. sad. We need to be able to purchase any part we want from the get-go as long as we have the right amount of car points.
I miss so much the auctions
You didn't mention Steering Self Alignment concerning controllers, so I'm assuming leave it at default?
Can you please do tuning video?
Something that was really irritating in 7 was all of the classes had so many restrictions. I couldn’t just take an S class car that I had modded into the race. It had to be a 2 door coupe between the years of 97-99 from Germany with no engine modifications, sport tires, and had to weigh more than 3800lbs. Like wtf.
Great game. This old man needs some practice tho. I got into gaming later than most so ive never played a forza title at launch. I thought we empahized clean racing tho lmao im just getting into the feel and then boom someone slams right into me im like what the hell lol
Welcome to online racing, where nobody likes to play fairly, ever.
@@brawler5760 I'm getting hurt. But when the bleeding is too much the career mode to start is good I think
I actually think it’s been pretty clean but I am rated S so I’m with other clean S rated players…
@@ashdog236 Is the rating system actually working as intended?
@@brawler5760 I think so? Unless I got lucky and just got a really clean lobby, there was one guy in one of the races who was a bit dirty with me but I’ve been on GT7 for the last 9 months and almost every single race I get punted or spun so FM has been a pleasant surprise!
I have a question about steering settings for the users that have controllers and the settings that you showed in this video are they the ones that you used ? Any suggestions?
I actually play primarily on a wheel, so I'm probably not the best person to ask about perfect controller settings - but that said, what you saw in the video is what I use when playing on controller!
Anyway to make the cars more playful and drifty around turns while racing? I have traction control off? They should be sliding a lot more. I should be able to slide the M3 around turns
Does sim steering actually reduce the time it takes the wheel to turn when you flick the stick? Or does it still only really effect counter steering.
Even with sim steering on in FM7, it'd take well over a second to fully change direction of the wheels in some cases, compared to a fraction of the time in prior games like FM4
Sim steering here is closer to the FM7/FH5 style of sim steering where it still has some level of input "smoothing" to more closely mimic how fast you can turn an actual wheel. You don't get that practically 1:1 joystick to steering output like older games had
@@HokiHoshithat's a shame. Even the old games had smoothing, you don't want to spin out because of a twitchy thumb for example, but sims like assetto (yes, I play controller on sims) let you adjust the level of this smoothing because at the end of the day it's entirely arbitrary and is a tradeoff between precision and difficulty.
FH5 is much faster than FM7. Obviously the arcade handling helps. Here's hoping the new motorsport is somewhere in between
@@existentialselkath1264 you got to be kiding. The guys that created AC and ACC should take notes from FM on how to properly implement controller racing. I spent 20+ hours on ACC and tried every controller setting under the sun and still couldn't get anything decent. 10 mins into FM I already had a very nice experience, that I know I'll be able to adjust and make those settings grow with my driving experience.
@@javierm_uk1588 I never said their controller experience was better. I'm just saying that even with all their lacklustre support, they still have an option that would be useful in forza.
Turns out the default setting is actually pretty decent in 8 anyway, nowhere near as sluggish as 7, so it's all good
Can you make a video about setting a multi class in free play?
Recommendations for traction off and being able to slide a car?
Hi do you slam on the brakes in a straight line or do you lightly press it?
Looking forward to the wheel setup guide, I think the game feels fine on default settings but I get a constant vibration when I’m on center and it’d quite annoying. Tried turning off vibration but that made no difference so I need some help here. I’m on a new to me thrustmaster tx
Do we have to do that every car? Thanks.
This game is great on a wheel and trail braking is real good..
How do you turn off the beeping noise?
Sim Steering on controller is not bad if I'm being honest.
You have a tip or trick to paint the rims black? I tried and it doesn’t look black
Yea, use a different material
Maybe try using the chrome finish minus colour at its darkest setting.
love your content, thanks. I am about to buy FMS but unsure weather to get std, deluxe or premium addition, Premium looks good, what would you recommend? thanks😀
Get the most expensive one as you get double credits or money to upgrade cars, I know from previous forza versions you get double credits as opposed of buying the cheapest version
Buy a month of gamepass first, and see if you like it, then buy whichever version feels best to you after that.
If a game is on Game pass I do not buy the standard game...only the premium packs.This is a no brainer.
If you have gamepass, buy the premium addon bundle, it’s 25% less than what you’d normally pay for. Same shit with Starfield.
How can you change the tyre compound in Qauli?
Really like the rpg elements of grinding and upgrading a car, in most games you can have a maxed-out car in a few hours, great idea imo.
Hated this
@@mrfishsticks266 not every game is for everyone,plenty to play this year.
Unfortunately I think you're alone on this one. I personally am on the fence. People are saying this is just "to get you to play more" as a cop out, but really it's probably designed to get you to focus on specific cars and less playing random cars. In a lot of proper sim games they also reward you for learning specific cars, and I guess this is forza's way of doing that.
Either way I'm enjoying the game.
I wouldn’t mind this so much if it allowed me to choose any upgrade that I want it as long as I have the points for it. The way things work now it’s going to get kind of old real fast. Also, if I have two of the same cars that should count as levels for that car.
@@Lenron-B06 i understand not everyone likes it, but dude plenty to play this year go play something else, don't come online and bitch and cry to somebody else who does like it..great year for games.
I like the upgrade system, come at me!
Ok I’ll bite! I don’t like the upgrade system. Artificially locking certain things away, takes away the immediate freedom of seeing where your car is lacking and removing the problem. I found in my short time with the game last night I couldn’t be bothered working out what was locked or unlocked, so I just hit ‘auto-upgrade’ and went racing. It’s taken away the engineering aspect of racing, which lets face it, is a massive part, and has replaced it with, “press Y to be more competitive’. There, take that! 😅 edit: to be fair, it’s the only thing I didn’t like, loved the weighty physics and general feel of the cars.
@@khimarosI mean there could be a decent fix, dunno if it’s that easy though since I’m not a game dev. Maybe car points should be rewarded while having everything available to us right out of the gate.
@@khimarossure u can auto upgrade, but its not even close to how personally upgrade and tune the car. I highly suggest that u get into tuning and upgrading ur car urself. And to know what is unlocked and locked is the same for evey car when they level up. After 1 or 2 cars ull get the hung of it. But the engineering is definitely still there and I love it, and the option to have a credit system where u cant just buy every upgrade is awesome too, as it forces u to adjust the car to ur driving style.
@@mr.darknight416 Got to admit I was wrong about the upgrade system, I have actually really enjoyed it. It does force your hand into tuning yourself and the satisfaction of going through the process and trying to find more lap time has been really rewarding. I've won a few races in cars I've tuned myself now and it feels fantastic. I have however, struggled to make my own tuned cars as competitive as the class leaders in say, the A class lobby. I guess I've still got a lot to learn!
Edit: Also, they've made it really obvious in the tuning menu what's been upgraded and what's locked, so you can very quickly go through and swap things out. It's a much better system than I initially gave them credit for.
@@khimaros glad ur enjoying urself, yes it has a learning phase and I am ok not being 1st all the time, but ill get there once I learn the tuning, its better than downloading someone elses tune without knowing anything and lose the most enjoying aspect of the game
When you're talking about preserving Fuel and Tyres, that knowledge works in the real world - where is the proof it works in the game? I genuinely don't believe Turn10 has implemented that much detail 🤔
Another tip: Transmission assists
Automatic is good if you're brand new, but Manual should be the norm to shoot for. Manual w/ Clutch is a bit more tricky in this installment but it seems vehicles with sequential transmissions aren't affected by Manual w/ Clutch, so many of the modern GT and Prototypes won't be affected.
M8 said coasting
1:09 I just 3ish pits on 24 laps at Indi speedway even though I had half fuel each time so should have had 12 laps in the 2018 V8 Mustang... And I also most won despite the AI surly taking full tanks and no stops as they drove slow... Thenb again I had to have been getting 10MPG so as I bearly slowed to under 100MPH and nearly maxed out the car... So yeah in the pits that estmat is mid fuel economy not all out or conservative but the in race gauge is very correct... Which I started 7th and got 2nd like 3 times during that race as each ppit was stupid fast... New meta of less gas more pits?
why don't tires wear out in single race?
Does anyone know how to play using a mouse? I play AC using a mouse, but I don’t know how to do it here. And which is the best settings for a mouse?
I'm DESPERATELY trying to figure out how to get the game to stop messing with my springs every time my fuel load changes after loading a tune
if im playing on steam can i play with my friend who is playing on xbox?
12:00 where are the lexus gt3 and the 720GT3? :(
What are the differences in the `VIP crown? I'm highly confused about it, I have the Premium Edition (most expensive one) and it shows the same crown as yours.
That’s literally it, it’s just a crown to show that you’re a shill.
I've been trying to get into motorsport but I am terribly struggling with these handling physics and every single car I've driven so far understeers worse than anything I've driven in horizon 5, it's kinda weird
I heard some of it has to do with the front tire PSI being higher than it should be, but I dunno. Gonna wait until Hoki releases a video on this subject.
Its also completely different physics than fh5
Can i use my DD if its unsupported? Can i move the camera forward, backward or up and down in ANY camera view? And im not talking about FOV. I need these options. Also Can i turn off the windshield reflections, so I can see the road without interruption
😂😂😂 the entitlement
You can do all these things if your wheel works.
Is there a dynamic replay?
Yes...its all covered as far as I can see.
A question, how does the manual with clutch now work in motorsport? because so far I can't get the hang off it, I know they got rid of the powershifting advantage thing but I'm a little confused.
Nevermind worked it out now haha😊
How d’you figure it out?
@@brawler5760 By realising you have to drive it like an actual manual haha
@@jackboulter4901 Ah so just like IRL
@@brawler5760 Yep
6:45 aged well
my game is running weirdly on pc, textures are popping in and out
Guys when use hard wheels in the game?
No pit strats
Touring Car online lobby is already ruined by Golf's 😂 first day we already have an OP car.
OH No...a meta to spoil the fun.Maybe I will use the Golf then.
I just want to paint my wheels white. Why can we not paint certain wheels white. It’s incredibly dumb.
Car points are the worse idea f any race car game ever. I challenge someone to defend it.
Leveling isn’t bad, I just wish car points were the reward instead of locking every part behind it.
reply broken car doesn't move at all
Don't waste your time with this game, it is a nightmare to set up, heavy in the system and you are obligated to start in the career mode.