@tevenpowell8023 ye basicly you have to nearly complete the game and go back to one of the easiest legacy dungeons and you can kill somthing the base Kitana can kill with enough mind can do.
@@christianlangdon3766 And she doesn't even help with Rennala? Just the wolf? Even though at that point killing Rennala is her goal? Kinda Lame. Kinda fun too though, might do it on my next playthrough just to see it. Cheers for the info.
It’s so weird, I have no idea why they had her summonable against the mini boss of a dungeon you can easily take out at that point, against something with high Magic resistance 😂
@@LtCdrXanderthe number of benefits and quirks to briars really is kind of over the top. Makes sneaking easier cause you don't break stuff jumping Neutralizes shield tear and branch talisman builds Helps chip stamina against shield hugger builds/mobs I throw a pair of pants/gloves on for general exploration purposes in the same manner people use blessed dew/takers cameo combo. Take it off for bosses where it causes general aggression increases/to recover fast roll for pvp duels and you have a genuine talisman level of change without the slot sacrifice
“I’d rather rot into nothing as I am, than bloom into something I’m not” Rip Millicent, your questline was always my favorite with the lore implications it provided
I really like it, but I don't get the last part. Wasn't she supposed to tell something to Malenia? Why is she fighting some sisters of hers all of a sudden?
@@ArgumentumAdHominem what she had to do was give back the needle that belonged to malenia so that she could quell the rot inside her. Her "sisters" are accidental offshoots of malenia, just like milicent herself, and they obey gowry to become scarlet valkyries. Milicent has the most potential, but for her to bloom, she has to be betrayed (by us). If we choose to help her, we basically ruin gowry's plans as millicent dies as herself, and her sisters are slain.
Her questline absolutely sucks; I felt absolutely 0 emotional attachment to her. Oh cool, I talk to her after she teleports across the map to a random rock formation, go grab something, give it to her, repeat, kill some invader NPCs. Boring and uncreative especially compared to ds1 questlines.
@@ArgumentumAdHominemwell, her sisters were sent by Gowry to kill her so that she would become a Scarlet Valkyrie, he even asks us as the player to help her sisters So you’re given the choice to either help Millicent defy Gowry and carve her own destiny, or fight alongside Pollyanna and kill Millicent, so that she can fulfill the destiny Gowry set for her Though, to be completely honest, I would’ve loved a third option The option to return the needle to her, so that she can be convinced of something else She is not a monster She is not a tool She is a beautiful scarlet flower, that blooms through any and all adversities
@@logeyperogi1805 Really? I totally missed that interaction with Gowry. But why then didn't he kill her at the very beginning of the quest? Why wait till she got to the haligtree?
Another correction Not only do you get a larval tear from the painting rewards in eastern liurnia, you get the juvenile scholar set. Which is unobtainable otherwise.
you can also agro boggart to make dung eater not kill him, if the goal is to keep boggart alive long enough to give dung eater the seluvis potion. then celestial dew to clear the sucker punch debt.
Millicent's questline is so distinct and memorable that I, after missing her at the Altus point, picked up the Valkyrie's Prosthesis in the Shaded Castle and IMMEDIATELY thought "oh, I should give this to Millicent when I find her" despite not having seen or interacted with her quest for a solid 6-8 hours.
The funniest part of the fact that Gowry has you complete Millicent’s entire quest line is the fact that her quest line spans pretty much the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. So depending on when you meet gowry the guy looks at your character and says “yeah go beat the rest of the game, fucker”
Same with fucking dungeater. It’s not a quest bundled within a quest like gowry but just not a huge fan of the absurd levels of progression these quests ask of you. Fortunately I assume that they’re mostly a one and done situation, so if I go back for new game + I will/ ignore the majority of quests. Not sure the quest have much to offer in new+ games
@@monhi64mainly gives you some alternative rewards for choosing a different path; for eg. in nepheli/seluvis quest u can either get her as a puppet or 2 ancient smithing stones (one from nepheli the other from gostoc) after defeating morgott, in the same way if u help millicent in the end u get rotten winged insignia, if you help her sisters u get the prosthesis talisman. Siding with jerren goves you another ancient smithing stone, siding with sellen instead gives u jerrens armor and glintstone kris. But yeah after ng+ there isnt much point in doing the quests apart from varre’s quest ofcourse that teleports you to mogh
@@Wakari_ I think I was especially, near unparalleled levels of salty because I spent like twelve hours doing the dungeater quest just so I could unlock his summon only to get to the point where you give him the potion and had no option. Spent another hour trying to figure that out only to go check on seluvis and he was dead, no warning no idea what happened. Legitimately sort of the longest quest I’ve ever done tangentially because of haligtree only to be uncompletable at the last task
Kenneth Haight/Nepheli Loux's quest is my favorite, because it is pretty much the only one at the end of which I actually felt I did something good in this god-forsaken world.
Yea I'm kinda upset that rusty didn't mention that nepheli loux literally becomes the queen of limgrave. Like, we literally usurp a corrupt ruler and establish our friend as the queen. That's sick as hell I mean, the soldiers in stormveil still attack us on sight bc we killed their god and replaced him with a random woman they've never heard of but they'll come around
i loved alexander's questline . he went from an average jar to an absolute beast, dude got a goddamn shoryuken at the end and outlive other NPCs that canonically really strong. a lot of dragon in farum azula was beaten down by SOMETHING and i suspect that SOMETHING is a jar looking to throw hands.
There are a suspicious amount of non-skeletalized Beastmen corpses in Farum Azula that look like the results of recent demises. Now where could those have come from? 🤷🏻♂️
Fun fact: Depending on what demi-god bosses you kill before facing gideon he will use the spells of said demi-gods against you. Kinda like he was ravaging the corpses after you defeat them. A very creepy guy indeed.
No, he just listens to what you say, and is the “all knowing”. He just doesn’t use the attacks, because they want him to be a culmination of every boss you’ve fought.
I’m not mad at the suggestion Gideon is ravaging corpses and whatever else. We know he travels the Lands Between / has agents out there watching and listening to everything, so it’s not out the realms of possibility that he or one of his lackeys is there watching. The only thing I have to say against it, and it’s a big one, is that you get boss spells by trading the remembrances to the Finger Reader. I think it’s one of two, maybe three things; 1) Gideon and the Finger Reader are in cahoots and he’s getting what you get with that in mind 2) Gideon is watching you kill these bosses / hearing how you did it and killing them in the same way in his own world (if you subscribe to summoning being in some way dimension hopping and each character has their own world) 3) Gideon has the knowledge of these spells from the books he reads combined with the “stories” you’ve told him (It’s a game, he’s one of the last bosses, it just makes sense)
@@mzwethu3805 This is off the top of my head so I’m not sure if it’s all of them, but I know Malenia gives him scarlet aeonia, Rykard gives him the skull with the exploding trail, and Mohg gives him bloodboon.
Completing Nepheli's quest allows her to show up as an NPC summon for the second to last boss of the game, and she's a pretty good aggro tank during it too, so that's a decent reward as well.
Millicent and Alexanders questlines are my favorite because they genuinely feel like friends that are indebted to you and they are also some of the only NPCs in any souls game that choose their own death, they go out on their own terms and in Alexanders case he asks you to help him fulfill his wish as only a true friend and warrior can.
One thing that wasn't mentioned in the video, but Fromsoft added an optional way to complete Varre's quest line if you play offline (or just don't want to invade some sweaty tryhards). If you make it to Altus Plateau and get to the Writheblood Ruins, you can invade an NPC that will complete the quest. It also allows you to get a second Great Stars if you want two for some reason (maybe you want to be a super chad wielding rusty morning stars for some reason). Upon killing him, you can return to Varre and continue the quest line as normal.
Dual-wielding them with a Prayerful Strike and Poisonous Mist ash to swap between was one of the most fun runs I had, honestly. Just... so much healing. I stopped stocking Crimson flasks because it genuinely just wasn't worth it. Well, until Farum Azula, anyway. Goddamn GSD.
@@Naptastic_voyage **IF** you connect to the internet (or are able to). Maybe you bought a console version and didn't want to spend for their online service, for example.
It's crazy how different everyone's experiences are with the game. On my first playthrough I naturally came across every one of Hyettas quest points and my player has been madness themed every since.
I found it on my second playthrough. I had started with the left side of liurnia resulting in me considering the shack cleared. But my friend naturally backtracks repeatedly and had it basically set up in one game session. So I kinda get the argument either way.i feel like if she gave a compass direction with a gesture to the 'light' id have had it no problem. But also probably would have over searched on the way to the capital. So... *Shrug*
@xOrbxt frenzied bust is one of the best magic spells in the game I think especially for pve because the ai can't dodge it. Frenzied flame skill boosts in by 20%
For me, I kinda had a similar situation with Millicent, although I did need to do some research towards the end to kill that damn sack of putrid shit lizard in that puddle of aids juice, buuut it was worth it
I genuinely cried to the ending of Alexander's questline. By the end of it I cared for the character and they grew on me. They were with us the whole way. His questline isn't great because of the charm, it was great because he felt REAL.
When he said he wanted to fight... Oh man... I knew what was coming but it still hurt a lot... But honestly it hurt almost as much seeing Millicent, and after seeing a lore video about what happened to Iji... Blaidd wasn't corrupted when we killed him. He thought he was protecting Ranni..
@@FaustusSeven”I aSkEd YoU nOt To diStUrB mE oMg Ur So LuCkY tHe RoUnTaBlE iS kEePiNg Me FrOm DeFiLiNg Ur BoOtY 💩😡😡😡” that alone made me INSTANTLY target him the moment I saw him underground. Massive point down emote moment. :) 👇👇👇👇👇
I found millicent first time exploring caelid and ı couldnt know what to do ı remember every 2 or 3 hours checking by millicent if ı did anything related , but then when ı found grace in sellen magic village(whatever the name of that place is) ı saw a glowing text near Grace telling me visiting the shackle before of that point ı was running around dont know exactly what to do ı even tried leveling up my character s immunity stats a higher point thinking maybe i can resist scarlet rot to help millicent 😅
Remember, Varre's questline got patched to include an npc in Altus that you can evade even if offline, which drops a second Great Stars if defeated. You don't even need to beat him too, you can invade the npc, die, and go back to Varre.
I'm sorry, but Boggart's death gives you his Bell Bearing and giving it to the husks actually makes it far more convenient to get infinite damage negation crabs. Sorry Boggart. Move closer to a Grace next time.
Fun fact, Irina and Hyetta are likely the same person. The latter doesn’t appear unless the former is dead, they look extremely similar, and her father having one of the grapes fits thematically.
Bud, they ARE the same person. Same face, same voice actress, same everything. Only thing we don't know is what kinda Frenzied Voodoo bullshit happened to make Irina become Hyetta.
@@atlasgraham154 I say “likely” because it’s never even addressed (let alone confirmed) anywhere in game. In theory it could just be reused assets, though I find that unlikely personally.
@@baconsir1159 this is the first time ive heard this but i 100% believe it. on my latest playthrough i just ran to get the claymore without speaking to any of them, after beating godrick she was not there dont understand any of the connections or how/irina has to die for her to exist
Hmm that does fall in like with the Melina being both Miquella AND St. Trina. One of the evidences for Melina being St. Trina (apart from her being mega suspicious with no explanation who she is) is that Melina consistently demonstrates powers to put people to sleep throughout the game. And no one besides melina and st trina can do that. But mostly I’m banking on melina having a big reveal on who she really is
Personally my all time favorite quest is the jellyfish quest. Why? Its because everything about the quest is so cute, the jellyfish and their interaction, and the length of the quest is nice too. I wish we got more quests of similar length to this one.
@ValbrandrLeonhardt yep, I know that too, which makes it better that the player reunites them since themselves can't do that because you know... they're dead. Now theirs souls are together thanks to the player.
My brother and I swear by the Jellyfish summon, that she's the best summon in the game. She's saved us countless times in boss battles by taking agro long enough for us to heal and get back in the fight. She truly felt like a companion by the time I reached the endgame, and getting to help her reunite with her sister was a beautiful end to our adventures.
Ya know,Thinking back on Thops quest chain deeply, Especially after finishing the game. It kinda warms my heart but equally saddens me in a way too. It really is one of the best yet simplest side quest off of the game. All you gotta do is to simply talk with him and give him the key he requested. After that he was genuinely excited that he got a chance to visit the academy and unlike Sellen, he doesn't seem to have any ill intentions or messed up motives but as someone who just want prove something and achieve his dream of making a spell no other sorcerers could come up with. So he immediately started studying and in the end, he finally created a brand new spell that could literally negates even the mightiest of all spells,Such as the Elden beast's Elden Stars which straight up jaw dropped me but alas he unfortunately passed away as a result. What really gets me is the fact that Thops is considered as someone who had zero talent in sorcery, Hence his title being "bluntstone". Yet the very man, conjured and created a spell that could protect you from gods is truly something else if you pay enough attention. Hence why it warmed me knowing i helped him to achieve his dream by doing something as simple as giving him a key, a small act of kindness. but i also feel sad knowing he wasn't alive anymore to see his creation but he will be remembered and i sure as hell wish i could thank him for protecting me from one of the most annoying spells in the entire game if he were alive.
Another thing about the spell Thops created. In the description it says it worthy of a new conspectus (the branches of magic they study i think) of the Academy. Thops literally created a new spell that was never thought of before and died without knowing it how much of a discovery it was.
How exactly did he die though anyway? Was the act of creating the spell too much for him? Did he get headbutted by the Burger King mascot while testing it agains physical damage?
@random_something1852 Yeah, the NPC sudden death syndrome after quests doesn't make sense in Elden Ring like it did in the Souls series. Perhaps he fell victim to the eldritch horrors that surround glintstone study but was lucky enough not to become a graven mass.
The entire point of Kenneth's questline is to put you in the direction of the first half of the Dectus medallion. It also would've made more sense for the second half of the medallion to be located in Fort Gael, not in the fort that's in an area with endgame scaling
I think he also redeems himself a bit as a character since he quickly acknowledges Nepheli and supports her rule over Stormveil. He may be an old bureaucrat, but at least he does think about "the realm" and tries to find a good leader.
I like to believe that to get the Albuneric Medallion Gideon destroyed the whole village while Albus hid in the pot, when he see's that we have the first part he sends ensha to us to kill us in order to get it, and if ensha fails he apologizes and brushes it off.
His order is weird. Thops , latenna diallos doesn't feel like good quests for me and are in top ten and the interesting quests rya, gowry dung eater are so behind
I found her quest really cool in the sense that if you pay attention to what she says you can find the illusionary wall in the volcano manor that then leads to rykards area, so 35th place is really harsh
Actually the worst take of the video, ryas quest isnt forgettable, its the only way you even remotely get to emotionally connect with tanith, ranking the quest based on the reward and calling the reward bad when its LITERALLY THE CALAMITY RING is also bad, rusty sucks in this video fr
totally screenshotting 33:10, you explained the exact feelings i had when trying to introduce my friend to elden ring, and they killed boc on first sight. Literally every npc we met, their first quesiton was "do they drop anything good?". thank you rusty, very cool
I hate how you pretty much have to use a wiki to complete all of them. NPCs just moving to seemingly random locations, requiring backtracking and luck to find.
100% Stuff like that would be amazing like 20 years back where people would be spending hundreds of hours exploring the game without any help from the internet, at best using game magazines and their friends to learn some stuff. It's just different times now I think, people can still do it but it's now a mental effort. There's so many ways to bug the quests out and lock progression and just have 0 in game pointers towards where to go next it just becomes annoying.
Biggest issue I have with souls games is NPC's will say "goodbye, hope to see you again" and then they'll just disappear. I didn't know onion man in DS3 appears in a random fucking well until I read about it because he quite literally *falls asleep* after the demon fight.
@@Verchiel_ plus, no fn game back then was even half as large as ER. I honestly think without the internet most gamers wouldn't know about a third of the game
@@mamoruchiba752 I certainly don't think I would. I've done a decent job at covering limgrave and weeping peninsula when I started playing but even then I missed many talismans or weapons, enemies etc. There's some absolutely obtuse bits of content you likely wouldn't guess or come across to solve.
23:14 the only one were you receive a modicum of affection back from a character, you interact with and it’s one of the few people that actually loved her companions so to speak. Additionally, it’s the only quest that relinquishes the control of outer gods completely unless the moon is a outer god
Wdym, Alexander seems to enjoy our company quite a bit, and we do end up granting him the warriors death he always desired. I'd say he's pretty affectionate. Not to mention almost the entirety of Bocs dialogue being thanking you.
@@robertspeedwagon982 she is the most moral upstanding demigod by far given everything we know iji always knew he would die and he served her regardless some suspect that the black lives were actually security detail and not there to kill them given the color of the flames on iji’s body it could be more plausible. He was attacked by disciples of the glows eyed Queen. Oddly enough, Blaidd is a programmed assassin of the golden order she knew this and still treated him fairly. The grew as kids together and even in his madden state, she did not want to kill him she didn’t just dispose of people. Her entire court knew that following her was going to lead to their death and they did it anyway Miquella well, I should not have to explain everything he’s done wrong Malenia likewise is just as guilty Rykard tortured, seemingly dozens if not, hundreds of abinorocs and in cut lore sexually abused a man married also doesn’t father his children, and is the Lord of blasphemy Morggot despite being normal, supports the golden order, which does a lot of fucked up things to include removing freedoms and trying to rewrite history Godrick dismembered people engrafted there corpses to his body that is desecration the actual crime of desecration no immediate prison time not respecting the dead is insane Radahn while probably the most noble of the demigods aside from Ronnie, it’s just not in any condition to lead anything Out of everyone Ranni did the least damage the golden order had problems, and was corrupt from the very start her killing Godwyn is bad but the way when I can only assume are second generation hornsent were treated is abominable what they did to Marika people in her village was bad.. But did the fire Giants need to eat shit for it? Did the carrion family need to get overthrown? And m put in the state of stasis? Was it necessary to torture Albanoric? Shackling your children in a sewer is just bad even if they resemble your oppressors, there is no reason to treat them that way because they’re not your oppressors? The DOC tries really hard to make me feel bad for her but when I think about all these things and how they did the dragons filthy, I just can’t pull myself to Care enough to discount her actions, and say what she did was somewhat acceptable like burning, the hornsent? fine but seriously the fucking fire Giants and the Carian and family have to eat shit to? And you have to do your husband Godfrey filthy? Nah Godwyn’s death is a consequence of her actions.
@@Reliccontent The Carians weren't overthrown by the GO either, Rennala was locked in her room by the other heads of the Academy, Marika and her order had absolutely nothing to do with it. Torturing the Albunaurics isn't confirmed to have been done by the Golden Order. The Order killed them as they were artificial beings unlinked to the Erdtree. The Fire Giants were natural ennemies of the Erdtree, as the only ones capable of burning it down, they were the biggest menace, it was a necessary war to keep the Order safe. Shackling the Omen twins was cursed, but at least she treated them exactly how any omen would have been treated. Godfrey was to leave because Grace left him after he slew everything capable of being a proper challenge, as a Warrior, he probably didn't really care that much. Again, he was banished like every other Tarnished, even if he was the Elden Lord. It is also theorised that the fusion of Radagon and Marika in their marriage was the doing of the Greater Will/Two Fingers, Marika was thus forced to banish Godfrey to be able to marry Radagon. "Godwyn's death is a consequence of her actions" no, it is not, it's a consequence of Ranni and Rykard's scheming. You also presented the other Demigods crimes for some reason, well some of the worst among them, Rykard, was Ranni's only ally among the demi gods. Iji probably knew he would die at some point since Ranni's plan was dangerous, but he probably didn't thought he would be killed by her orders.
@@robertspeedwagon982 Melina will tell you that Marika stripped the tarnished of their grace herself, in one of the churches. There is zero evidence that Ranni ordered the deaths of Blaidd and Iji, just because she worked with the Black Knives once, does not mean that they work for her. Also the flames burning Iji's body is Godslayer fire, not Destined Death, and Godslayer fire is only used by, the Godslayers, and the Baleful Shadows. If the BKA still work for Ranni then it makes more sense that they were guards who failed to protect Iji, rather than his assassins, or they were disguised Shadows, like how the one we faced was disguised as Blaidd. If they aren't working with Ranni, then it doesn't make sense why they attacked her friends, Ranni gave them their knives, what they do with them has nothing to do with Ranni. Sure, Alecto was sealed away at the Moonlight alter, but that wasn't Ranni's doing, because guess what else was at the alter,...the TWO FINGERS that Ranni was avoiding presumably for centuries. Ranni's actions are what caused their deaths, but not directly. Ranni is at most a morally gray character, which is about as good as it gets for a souls character.
Other than Ranni's quest, Millicent's is one of my favourites in the game. Helping her get back up from the rot and figthing side by side through the lands between, eventually leading to one of my favourite areas in the game- Elphael.
What’s crazy about all of these quests is that at launch most of them were unfinished. Literally like almost a year later patches quest was finally finished in a patch. So was Alexander’s with the little pot village. No telling what other quests were unfinished and they patched in later those are the only two I remember
I still think Blaidd got done dirty and I feel like there should be some way to help him or turn him into a puppet summon. I'd love that in a DLC. Anything is better than now.
Not to mention there's still apparently something to do with Patches and Tanith that needs an ending After you beat Rykard and meet Patches in a different location, he gives you an item than you can then give to Tanith that doesn't do anything as of yet Maybe it'll get expanded on in the dlc but I have no idea
I literally talked to D like once in the Roundtable Hold and never thought about him again. Then i went to go hug Fia again because I hadn't in a long time and felt bad for her, and out of nowhere she gives me the weathered dagger and tells me to find its owner. And I swear my brain had some bad timing because right after i walked out of the room i saw D and thought 'hmm i havent talked to him in a while either', saw the option to give him the dagger, and then he was dead, so.
The only good thing about that seal is that you can offhand it and still get the 20% damage bonus to frenzy flame spells, so you can use a better seal like the Erdtree Seal, and still deal the bonus damage of the Frenzied Flame Seal.
It's pretty simple why it has no requirements. They only way you can get it is by having the frenzied flame inhabit your body. It's just a part of you, and any strength you gain makes it better as a result
@@jstar3382 very nicely thought out! my own theory is that since frenzy wants to "melt it all to nothing", it has no requirements as it is chaos incarnate, nothing and everything in one or something of the like, I'm sure that phrase has something to do with it
@@PhazoGanonIt also **scales with dex, strength, and int**. With 40/40 Str/Dex and 22 faith, you can pewpew for 223 incantation power, and actually pump out pretty good damage on frenzied burst.
Warrior Jar Alexander is my favorite NPC and favorite NPC quest. It's a friendly rivalry between you both with each trying to prove they are the best. Like Red & Gary.
This game is crazy. Several hundred hours of playtime and I've never seen/spoken to Boc, or the small jar, and each playthrough forgot Dallios existed after the initial conversation with him at the roundtable. I didn't even know they had quests. Learn something new every day with this game
You find Boc pretty early in the game. But he's disguised as a tree, so he's easy to miss. He does talk when you're nearby. But on my first playthrough, I didn't realize NPCs could potentially be disguised as scenary. And ended up googling the "random" talking that happens in that area.
I still feel like nephelis is a great quest, its littearly one of the only quests where the characters dont die and go insane, I was hoping sellen wouldnt end up dying because my headcanon would be that nepheli and sellen along with maybe rya could all join up with me in leading the lands between when i become elden lord, its just nice to know that when I become elden lord nepheli will be there to help out, the fact that you can also summon her for the godfrey fight especially considering how shes related to horah loux makes it all the more special to me nephelis quest was honestly just tragic to me, she was adopted by gideon when she lost her grace, she tries her very best to be a strong good honorable warrior, she helps you out with godrick and then goes out into the world to explore, she then finds the horrors of the albanuric village and then her father straight up abandons her because she ended up getting too deep into his biusness, she enters a depressed state because she has nothing left, no father to guide her, no grace to guide her, she is a warrior without purpose, but giving her the hawk ashes helps reminds her of her past, and she gains a new purpose in becoming the leader of stormveil castle along with kennith (who yes kennith is kinda weird but in a sort of oddly endearing way, he reminds me of a lot of those posh aristocrat stereotypes) the most intersting part is that she can either have the best ending in the game or the absolute worst if you decide to be an absolute monster and give her the serum also you get TWO ANCIENT DRAGON SMITHING STONES for beating her quest, thats two potential fully maxed out weapons if your early enough, I really like her character and im glad that the update gave a resolution to her quest that isnt just "character dies or goes insane"
Varres questline has another way to finish it, without having to go online. You have to kill Magnus the Beast Claw in one of the Ruins in Altus Plateau, if I'm not mistaken.
This was added after a patch or two. I still remember when you had to invade online three times to do this (not win, just invade). When they added the alternate method, I suddenly cared again
I've always felt like the side quests here have some of the best and the worst of what the game has to offer, at least in terms of writing. There are some excellent characters and great writing, and then there are some moments that just scream 'this area felt a bit empty but we wrote ourselves into a thematic corner, so we're just going to drop a random quest here.' It really feels like in a game like Elden Ring, side quests almost never feel like they're as important or interesting than the main story. Which... okay, I realize that was a 'no shit Sherlock' sort of statement, but it feels particularly accentuated here that the game could use about half the side quests being dropped because they don't feel like a part of the world, they feel like a part of the game.
"They don't feel like a part of the world, they fee like a part of the game." Dayum, that is a really strong and affecting statement. Thinking about side quests in games like that could help a game dev take their game from good to great. Legitimately excellent advice, man
I didn't care about a single character except maybe Bob. was very disappointed that you can't kill the ghost upgrade girl. I guess from is trying to go mainstream. what happened to killing Andre and fuking yourself over for the whole playthrough?
the greater will isn't intolerant, it just wants some kind of order it offers the player like five different kinds the only reason it even got pissed is because marika decided--for literally no reason other than emotion--that being a rebis wasn't fun any more
That's why Gold Mask's ending is the best I think. He fixes the Golden Order by making it to where the God in charge cannot be influenced by human emotions anymore.
To be fair to Marika, godhood hasn't really been working out in her favor. All of her kids, except one, are cursed. Her first set of twins represent the very people she hates. And despite sealing death away, her only uncursed child is not just murdered. But given a half death that leaves his body to ruin things for the living. A death that was brought about by her enemy and her other half's child. Being a god is probably very limiting in what you actually can do.
5:34 for reference, at 30 faith and 40 dex the frenzied flame seal does equal damage as the godslayer seal itself when casting godslayer incants, even with the latter's boost. on dex/faith hybrid builds it *well* outshines the finger and godslayer seals at anything that isn't only affected by the faith portion of your spellbuff (order's blade, bfb, healing incants etc). can't say it doesn't have its niche
There are two elements of the Seluvis quest I love: first his animation where he bends over to talk in your ear. It's so unnerving in the perfect way for the pattern of static NPC poses during dialogue to be broken in such an uncomfortable way. Second is the Dung Eater's voice line as you turn him into a puppet. It captures the theft of agency that puppetry entails, and it's sad that I've seen nobody else praise this vocal performance because it's so hidden and locked behind being a piece of shit, but hey that's From Software for you. Also, doesn't Shabriri show up as a summon for Godfrey if you complete his quest? Likewise for Nepheli Loux. Also, I hope Gideon gets an alternate questline path in the DLC, and I really hope Kalé gets a questline implemented there too.
There was a questline for Kalé initially, but they cut it. One quest involved you collecting "mist" from sleeping enemies that he would use to sleep himself and ease his frenzy. And another sends you down the underground prison to discover the fate of the other nomads. Hyetta more or less replaced that role.
@@Svoorhout85 I know all too well how they cut the best vocal performance in the game 😭 Maybe we'll see Kalé in the trailer tonight (if there is one at all)
Millicent was my favorite despite how long it was! She is true waifu! A sword maiden who wants to be by your side and fight alongside you? Yes please! Hell even at the end she didn’t want the rot to cause you harm as well.
Doesn't she also invade, you. Than she dies soo idk about the title of greatest waifu if you know you can be with her and she has at least one attempted murder of you.
@@christianlangdon3766The scarlet rot drove her insane (same as Radahn) but she regains her consciousness after losing her right arm. The way she fixes her hair as soon as she can stand up after you give her the needle shows that she almost certrainly wasn't conscious whe she invaded you in the swamp.
@lharsay I mean cool idea, but like many things In elden ring there is nothing to support this aside from looks. It's just as possible that she is a mass murderer who killed 90 percent of all caelids intelligent lifeforms, and upon losing to you, she happens to gain amnesia and becomes a good person. Obviously, yours is more plausible, but mine isn't like impossible within the context and info that elden Rang provides because it's 0.
@@christianlangdon3766 I take her changing hairstyle as a strong evidence because it's the only time we see an NPC change hair in any Souls game. If she was evil with amnesia we would find that out later but there is nothing that would suggest that.
10:04 Regarding Gurranq: You don't actually have to fight him, I just ported somewhere else, did some other stuff and when I came back he was relaxed, apologized and gave me an incantation as a peace offer.
another fun fact: you don't actually have to beat Gurranq, just slap him a couple of times and he'll surrender and apologize for losing his mind. after that, if you reload the area he will be outside howling at the erdtree (where Marika is)... this doesn't really go anywhere, but its pretty neat.
On the first Playthrough of Elden Ring I did I managed to progress Alexander all the way through and he is totally number one, after fighting him it gave me a genuine smile like it was the last bout of honor for him.
I found something out about Shabriri, if you get the frenzied ending before you get to the mountaintops and don't kill him, then you get to summon him for Godfrey, it's so wierd
My current run is a Kenneth Haight playthrough. I’ve got his face data and all kinds of restrictions- I have to at least have all his weapons/spells, I have to dress like a noble, and goofy little things like “don’t hurt demi-humans because we’re reestablishing communication with them”
Kenneth is a really decent and sometimes loveable character. He is the only noble NPC in the game that took the noble codes to his heart (compared to the cut noble NPC that treats omens like shxt).
5:30 to explain, the Frenzied Flame Seal scales slightly with Strength, Dexterity, Intellegence, and Faith, meaning you only have to invest the stats needed for the incantations while leveling your preferred stat and still have it scale up, no matter your build, so that's what makes it better than the Finger Seal for builds that don't use high Faith or Arcane
Jerren is actually not an issue with Sellen's quest cause he won't appear to kill her until after you extract her primal glintstone. Most of the time I find myself doing it at the very end of the game for the smithing stone and it works without issue.
This video brings a type of "was done with everything in life but rediscovered the joys of liveing" vibe that i just really like, idk anything about your personal life but you sound really happy making this video and i think thats really cool
I'm only at the intro but it's nice knowing that by the time the DLC is out Rusty still won't be out of things to rank and by then he'll have to redo half of his rankings again.
13:34 OH MY GOD FINALLY A FELLOW FORTISSAX ENJOYER??? I DIDNT KNOW THE DAY WOULD COME WHERE I WATCH A VIDEO INCLUDING FORTISSAX WHERE SOMEONE DOESN'T TEAR HIM APART You have earned my utmost respect for this.
Didn't know people hated that fight, it's one of the few fun dragon fights in the game. Even the death blight which I thought was gonna be a huge annoyance wasn't that big of a deal.
@@The_Novu Exactly, people say the lightning under him is annoying since you cant lock onto his feet and the fact that half of his attacks are the same as the other ancient dragons. Personally he is in my top 3 favorite bosses in elden ring and it makes me sad seeing how much hate he gets
One thing I like about Rya’s quest is the multiple ways it can end. When she asks you to kill her you can 1. Kill her 2. Give her the tonic of forgetfulness 3. Not kill her and kill Rykard instead to which is the best outcome
26:00 Yeah, Blaidd's fate is hard coded. If you keep advancing Ranni's questline, he will end up in Evargaol. So you have to decide whether you want the best boy to live and be without a blue girlfriend.
One thing to note is that killing Radahn before progressing Sellens quest does not end it. I have done Radahns fight almost every single time before the Sellen questline and Jerren always waits to kill her until after I've gotten the primal glintstone. Maybe there's a small caveat that I've managed to miss that makes him kill her but I've never had it happen.
I think you're fine as long as you don't return to talk to Jerren after killing Radahn. Because I've also killed Radahn before getting Sellen's Primal Glintstone.
Nope your doing it correctly. Same way i saw a dude on Twitter say that Ranni's quest is too easy to fail despite its only accidental fail trigger is completing any other ending lol
As someone who recently got into Elden ring and am constantly browsing the internet for progression and advice, I found your previous videos to be boons for me, so thank you for sharing your thoughts and advice to the public.
@@Knivess0 I think I’m pretty far along the game- I’m in the area with the fire giant, I’ve bested Radahn and Rennala, going for a mostly strength build with a sword and shield.
First time Elden Ring player, so far my only serious major gripe for the entire game is how limited your side quest selection is. The moment to moment combat can be harsh, but it's a storm worth weathering, but an NPC killing another NPC on the other side of the world without your input and locking you out of a great weapon, spell, talisman, worldbuilding, or, God forbid, an entire ending, just because you "explored too much" just feels objectively unfair. There isn't even a tracker for any of those side quests, or even a bookmark for "the one sidequest you care about". I get that that would clutter the very clean UI the game has but...I need to make sure ShitEater stays away from my crawfish guy
I think the Spirit Jellyfish quest counts, if for no other reason than I really like it for its simplicity and how it needs a creative solution purely from the player's intuition and knowledge. The only problem I have with it is that when you finish it, it should really upgrade your Spirit Jellyfish Spirit Ash into a 'Spirit Jellyfish Sisters' Ash that summons both. I know I know, that might destroy the game's balance, is it really able to handle TWO Spirit Jellyfishes? But you only get it in a late game area, it shouldn't be too big of a problem. Also it could give us the sister's name. I'm thinking probably Argentia or something similar to keep up the theme.
My favorite quest chains : 1) ranni, iji, blaidd 2) Millicent, Gowry 3) Alexander 4) Corbyn, Goldmask 5) Fia, DnD, Rogier 6) any npc quest linked to frenzy 7) Diallos, jarbairn 8) Volcano manor quests (zorayas, bernahl, patches, tanith...) 9) Nepheli, Gideon, Kenneth 10) sellen and jerren Bonus : maidenless guy, hewg and roderika and Guranq. Guranq does give some of my favorite rewards tho.
I'd probably put Diallos and Jarbairn at number 4 and Nehpeli/Kenneth at 5 (moving Coryn/Goldmask and Fia and co. down), but otherwise I basically agree with you here. Definitely think Ranni and co. have the best storyline as a group, Millicent is really solid and only falls short since there isn't much else related to Rot/Miquella (which might change with the DLC), and Alexander is similarly great and is improved by Jarbairn as well, only just falling short of Millicent.
In my first playthrough I received the Pureblood Knight's Medal before I got to Altus. But I listened to Varre and the item description and waited patiently. I accidentally arrived at Mohgwyn Palace by blindly taking the teleporter from Consecrated Snowfield, well after I defeated Gideon. I then remembered the medal and finally used it, which warped me to where I was already standing. I was like wut, srsly, I was supposed to betray the questline and use this!?
before the Barrier of Gold nerf, the Frenzy Seal was the best choice for a mage to cast Law of Regression, other than that this seal scales with every stats except arc, so it's pretty good for like dex/faith builds that lean more into dex
...except that's also incorrect, because you can cast Law of Regression with any seal, whether you meet the requirements or not. All that matters is whether you meet the requirements of the spell. I'm not sure why it works that way, but it works, even in PvP. It's been my go-to opener ever since I figured that out.
Alexander carried me in that fire giant fight. His uppercut special attack can insta stance break that giant (I think, it all happened so fast and I was behind the giant while Alexander was in front, I only saw flashes of flame coming from him, not the giant and saw the giant topple down seconds after I stance broke him earlier)
Well in Rya's case it's not a matter of "ohhhh I'm ugly :(". It's "the woman I thought was my mother lied to me my entire life and I'm actually the spawn of a horrid ritual involving one of history's greatest villains"
Something I also like about Bernahl regarding his armor is how he was painted up to be a candidate for Elden Lord. He wasn’t like most other Tarnished, he was up there with Vyke in power and fame until his maiden sacrificed herself to get Bernahl to Farum Azula. Edit: I also think you missed Jerren’s quest line. Which gives you the earliest Dragon smithing stone in the game progression wise.
I think Bernahl's maiden died before he got to Farum Azula. If I'm remembering correctly, she tried to act the part of the kindling Maiden but ended up just burning with nothing to show, which lead to him joining the Recusants for revenge on the Erdtree and Greater Will for the death of his Maiden. The only one who can light the flame is Melina, as she's quite literally born to do it. Well, her or the Frenzied Flame.
@@Yharim_The_Impaler I mean, so was Alexander. And Bernahl invaded Farum Azula, and from npcs like Vyke, Dungeater, and Alberich, we know that you don't have to be in an area to invade it.
@@atlasgraham154 Alexanders different. He most likely jumped into the Giant’s Forge which sent him to Farum Azula. Given how we know Alexander was attempting to temper his body in Mt Gelmirs flames, how he said he was going East, and the fact that the Forge of the Giants is directly East from where we talk to Alexander at Mt Gelmir, it can be inferred that he physically jumped into the forge after the Fire Giant was killed and was sent to Farum Azula. Another difference is that Vyke, Bernahl, Dung Eater, and Alberich are all Tarnished. Which meant they can invade others. But Alexander is a Living Jar. And so far we don’t see or know of any living jars that invade us.
Note and Fun Fact: NPC invasions where you invade NPCs for several questlines, like Yura's and Tanith's, counts as invasions for Varre's quest for that juicy early Moghwyn's palace.
I found your channel last week and have watched like 60 of your videos. Its helped me get back into elden ring and lose my shit at terrible jokes. So much appreciated
"If you've already been inside Murkwater Cave, you can just teleport back." Doesn't that chest trap prevent fast-traveling? Pretty sure all the teleport traps do. I mean, yeah, all you have to do is reach a bonfire, but needing to sneak around a runebear is still more dangerous than, say, the one the transports you to the Divine Bridge.
Gostoc’s “quest” is cool once you discover everything that’s happening… which is bad quest design. Finding out the guy was stealing our souls was interesting, but nobody knew it was happening at the time. At most a small few people noticed a small discrepancy. If you don’t have him open the main gate, he follows you the side way, and that he actually follows is pretty surprising (especially given how NPCs ‘move’ from place to place in these games) If you move forward a certain amount, then go back, there are 3 places he’ll be, with unique & interesting dialogue at each spot. See him the first time and he’ll open a shop back at the gate (he’ll also do this after you get the rusty key if you hadn’t seen him the 1st time) Catch him all three times and he _stops stealing_ your souls! That’s cool. Granted by then you’re practically finished Stormveil… Trouble is if, you don’t die between every grace that first time thru the game and also aren’t paying very close attention, you won’t see him in the three places he can be. I get that From likes to be obscure, but _too_ much is left to discover months later from the wiki. I’m still sad it made me skip the emotional early steps of Roderika’s quest because, for no good reason, she just gets skipped forward if you go near a site of grace in the next region north… oh and for no reason the site where you see Boc, that’s *very clearly* still in Stormveil and Limgrave, counts as being in the next region 🤦 Maybe it’s not “her quest”… but she and the smith develop a bond that goes all the way to the end of the game and breaks your damn heart at the end. It’s amazing. Why would they have the early part autocomplete goddamit
Rogier really should have been a more present NPC in the world, whose questline, actions and the decisions you make regarding him had impact on the progression of his journey; a shame he got relegated to a sick simp in Roundtable tbh, a real shame... Great video tho :3 P.S. I wish helping Millicent with her ending gave you both the Rotten Winged Sword Insignia and Millicent's Prosthesis because she dies at the end why can't you just take if off her rotten body that always bothered me
We get a full look at Margit ripping off his own arm, it's gotta make you wonder, where does Millicent insert that needle that the screen has to turn black?
The absolute last straw from seluvis is gating the magic scorpion charm behind his quest. Do you know how many times i started a character, ignored that asshole for a while and accidentally locked myself out of the charm by progressing the much more pleasant npc that is ranni? like, 3 times, man.
The frenzied flame seal isnt good for builds that primarily focus on stats other than faith for its lack of a faith requirement, its good for those builds because it scales with dexterity, intelligence, faith and strength equally. Its the same reason one for example might use the dragon comminion on their Arcane build even though they arent using any dragon communion miracles, you're getting more mileage out of the stats youve already invested in.
30:13 bro, helping Millicent is always better because the Talisman she gives you when you kill her has worse damage buff than the one she gives you when you help her, you kind of screwed this part.
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Pls rank the noble's slender sword It is the best weapon in Elden Ring
Can’t wait for the “ranking my own rankings” list.
Rank. All. Players. Too hard?
Rank all godskin fights.
Yo I loved the mods you used, your character looks so edgy in that distinctly Bloodborne way that I just love so much.
I’ll always remember Alexander literally landing the final blow on Radahn, and then still saying he “ran away and hid”
Two ways of interpreting that:
1: Developer oversight
2: King wants you to have the honor
Always saw it as Alexander being afraid to challenge him first and only following you instead
Alexander got the final blow on fire giant just as I died once, he’s a real one.
Alexander, my good friend
he is the one dude i consistently summon for radhan
Fun fact: if you progress in a REALLY weird way, you can summon Sellen for Red Wolf of Radagon. That’s also a technical quest reward.
I didn't know you could do that. How does it happen, do you have to get her the new body first?
@tevenpowell8023 ye basicly you have to nearly complete the game and go back to one of the easiest legacy dungeons and you can kill somthing the base Kitana can kill with enough mind can do.
@@christianlangdon3766 And she doesn't even help with Rennala? Just the wolf? Even though at that point killing Rennala is her goal? Kinda Lame.
Kinda fun too though, might do it on my next playthrough just to see it. Cheers for the info.
red wolf has a ton of magic resist, so she's dreadful, even as an agro tank. was funny to watch her though.
It’s so weird, I have no idea why they had her summonable against the mini boss of a dungeon you can easily take out at that point, against something with high Magic resistance 😂
From what i was taught in my self-defense class, our body is a weapon, and if we go by that logic, this counts as an "all weapons ranked" video
You can also equip the Briar Armor to do damage by rolling into enemies, so you literally CAN make your body a weapon in the game
@@LtCdrXanderthe number of benefits and quirks to briars really is kind of over the top.
Makes sneaking easier cause you don't break stuff jumping
Neutralizes shield tear and branch talisman builds
Helps chip stamina against shield hugger builds/mobs
I throw a pair of pants/gloves on for general exploration purposes in the same manner people use blessed dew/takers cameo combo.
Take it off for bosses where it causes general aggression increases/to recover fast roll for pvp duels and you have a genuine talisman level of change without the slot sacrifice
@@LtCdrXanderbriar armor with The lightning ram ash
our body is also a temple, so it could be a ranking all of marika's churches video
Self defense class lmao you victim 🤡
I love that if you show Seluvis’s potion to Gideon, he actually recognizes it and takes it from you to dispose of, calling Seluvis a “dolly botherer.”
Gideon truly has a way with words
@@JonathanNormandy FIND THE ALBINAURIC WOMAN
The one time Gideon was ever a chill lad
has big “ah, not THIS again…” energy
it triggers one of my favorite Gideon line “he’s so far up his arse, he won’t even notice”
Literally nothing is funnier that Vaati saying "rank all the rune bears".
😂😅😂😅😂 where this at i missed it
@@iianmitchelldubit's the very last comment he shows in the intro 😂
Thank you for this
#1: The bear in the cave in Calied near the dragon bridge. Fuck that rune bear, I gave up and stealthed around him. At level 132!
Fuck that bear yo hate that thing @@DemonaeTV
“I’d rather rot into nothing as I am, than bloom into something I’m not”
Rip Millicent, your questline was always my favorite with the lore implications it provided
I really like it, but I don't get the last part. Wasn't she supposed to tell something to Malenia? Why is she fighting some sisters of hers all of a sudden?
@@ArgumentumAdHominem what she had to do was give back the needle that belonged to malenia so that she could quell the rot inside her.
Her "sisters" are accidental offshoots of malenia, just like milicent herself, and they obey gowry to become scarlet valkyries. Milicent has the most potential, but for her to bloom, she has to be betrayed (by us). If we choose to help her, we basically ruin gowry's plans as millicent dies as herself, and her sisters are slain.
Her questline absolutely sucks; I felt absolutely 0 emotional attachment to her. Oh cool, I talk to her after she teleports across the map to a random rock formation, go grab something, give it to her, repeat, kill some invader NPCs. Boring and uncreative especially compared to ds1 questlines.
@@ArgumentumAdHominemwell, her sisters were sent by Gowry to kill her so that she would become a Scarlet Valkyrie, he even asks us as the player to help her sisters
So you’re given the choice to either help Millicent defy Gowry and carve her own destiny, or fight alongside Pollyanna and kill Millicent, so that she can fulfill the destiny Gowry set for her
Though, to be completely honest, I would’ve loved a third option
The option to return the needle to her, so that she can be convinced of something else
She is not a monster
She is not a tool
She is a beautiful scarlet flower, that blooms through any and all adversities
@@logeyperogi1805 Really? I totally missed that interaction with Gowry. But why then didn't he kill her at the very beginning of the quest? Why wait till she got to the haligtree?
Alexander's quest hit me hard at the end mainly because I didn't expect them to give him the usual Jars Death animation. When he exploded, I shook
Don't they all kind of explode?
@@JosephWalker-ip7pdBe didn’t expect him to explode, he thought he would just disappear into dust like the others.
Well, you are right, it is not expected from your side, but his last words do compliment it, at least for me
No lie, I actually shouted, not from fear, just moderate shock. Like finding a rat in your garage style, just wasn't what I expected.
I gave him a prayer at the end, damn near teared up.
Corrections:
-Kenneth is not required to complete Nepheli's quest.
-You do not have to do online invasions for Varre's quest.
Another correction
Not only do you get a larval tear from the painting rewards in eastern liurnia, you get the juvenile scholar set. Which is unobtainable otherwise.
Another: you don’t have to finish Diallo’s questline to get the second petal whip, you can just kill him right where you find lanya
you can also agro boggart to make dung eater not kill him, if the goal is to keep boggart alive long enough to give dung eater the seluvis potion. then celestial dew to clear the sucker punch debt.
@@setcetcyou don't even need to do that unless you're wanting his ending you can finish his quest line without ever speaking to boggart
@@zombieslayer2016 sometimes I wanna buy a boiled crab after a boss fight to wind down 😔
Millicent's questline is so distinct and memorable that I, after missing her at the Altus point, picked up the Valkyrie's Prosthesis in the Shaded Castle and IMMEDIATELY thought "oh, I should give this to Millicent when I find her" despite not having seen or interacted with her quest for a solid 6-8 hours.
Same, I was like, "Oh, a metal arm, I know who could use that" and then you just go and give it to her
The funniest part of the fact that Gowry has you complete Millicent’s entire quest line is the fact that her quest line spans pretty much the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. So depending on when you meet gowry the guy looks at your character and says “yeah go beat the rest of the game, fucker”
Same with fucking dungeater. It’s not a quest bundled within a quest like gowry but just not a huge fan of the absurd levels of progression these quests ask of you. Fortunately I assume that they’re mostly a one and done situation, so if I go back for new game + I will/ ignore the majority of quests. Not sure the quest have much to offer in new+ games
@@monhi64mainly gives you some alternative rewards for choosing a different path; for eg. in nepheli/seluvis quest u can either get her as a puppet or 2 ancient smithing stones (one from nepheli the other from gostoc) after defeating morgott, in the same way if u help millicent in the end u get rotten winged insignia, if you help her sisters u get the prosthesis talisman. Siding with jerren goves you another ancient smithing stone, siding with sellen instead gives u jerrens armor and glintstone kris. But yeah after ng+ there isnt much point in doing the quests apart from varre’s quest ofcourse that teleports you to mogh
@@Wakari_ I think I was especially, near unparalleled levels of salty because I spent like twelve hours doing the dungeater quest just so I could unlock his summon only to get to the point where you give him the potion and had no option. Spent another hour trying to figure that out only to go check on seluvis and he was dead, no warning no idea what happened. Legitimately sort of the longest quest I’ve ever done tangentially because of haligtree only to be uncompletable at the last task
@@monhi64 thas fromsoft quests for ya😭Im sorry u went thru alla that brother
@@monhi64You gave the fingerslaying blade to ranni didn’t you? The second you give it to her the second seluvis dies
Kenneth Haight/Nepheli Loux's quest is my favorite, because it is pretty much the only one at the end of which I actually felt I did something good in this god-forsaken world.
Yeah I wish there were more that set up the world for success. Kinda like how new vegas did.
Yea I'm kinda upset that rusty didn't mention that nepheli loux literally becomes the queen of limgrave. Like, we literally usurp a corrupt ruler and establish our friend as the queen. That's sick as hell
I mean, the soldiers in stormveil still attack us on sight bc we killed their god and replaced him with a random woman they've never heard of but they'll come around
In the ending slides it says that Nepheli established a new Roundtable Hold with a Twin Maiden merchant that has a „Sell“ option.
Also, you can get Nepheli to help you fight Godfrey during the fight, so that's cool too
Rare FROM happy-ish ending.
i loved alexander's questline . he went from an average jar to an absolute beast, dude got a goddamn shoryuken at the end and outlive other NPCs that canonically really strong. a lot of dragon in farum azula was beaten down by SOMETHING and i suspect that SOMETHING is a jar looking to throw hands.
There are a suspicious amount of non-skeletalized Beastmen corpses in Farum Azula that look like the results of recent demises. Now where could those have come from? 🤷🏻♂️
@@ryanpcollinsthey are there even if you alexander is already killed.
it wasnt even a simple shoryuken. he got Ken's Shinryu Reppa, which is his LEVEL 3 SUPER in SF6. and they look exactly alike. really cool.
@@ryanpcollinsprobably Bernahl. Since those corpses are near where he invade you. But I could see alexander beating some beast men to a pulp
the spot that Alexander shows up in is where an ancient dragon normally is too, I presume he kicked its ass and that's when we meet up with him
Fun fact: Depending on what demi-god bosses you kill before facing gideon he will use the spells of said demi-gods against you. Kinda like he was ravaging the corpses after you defeat them. A very creepy guy indeed.
No, he just listens to what you say, and is the “all knowing”. He just doesn’t use the attacks, because they want him to be a culmination of every boss you’ve fought.
I’m not mad at the suggestion Gideon is ravaging corpses and whatever else. We know he travels the Lands Between / has agents out there watching and listening to everything, so it’s not out the realms of possibility that he or one of his lackeys is there watching. The only thing I have to say against it, and it’s a big one, is that you get boss spells by trading the remembrances to the Finger Reader.
I think it’s one of two, maybe three things;
1) Gideon and the Finger Reader are in cahoots and he’s getting what you get with that in mind
2) Gideon is watching you kill these bosses / hearing how you did it and killing them in the same way in his own world (if you subscribe to summoning being in some way dimension hopping and each character has their own world)
3) Gideon has the knowledge of these spells from the books he reads combined with the “stories” you’ve told him
(It’s a game, he’s one of the last bosses, it just makes sense)
yeah he used malenia and mohg abilities on me. It was very cool to see
@@mzwethu3805 This is off the top of my head so I’m not sure if it’s all of them, but I know Malenia gives him scarlet aeonia, Rykard gives him the skull with the exploding trail, and Mohg gives him bloodboon.
I just beat the shit out of him super quickly before he could do much of anything. Dude was a punkass
Completing Nepheli's quest allows her to show up as an NPC summon for the second to last boss of the game, and she's a pretty good aggro tank during it too, so that's a decent reward as well.
Shabriri can also show up and they can fight together. The epitome of “so how did you meet the tarnished..?”
Melina does the same for free, and even heals you and uses some badass incantations.
@@uroy8371 wrong fight mate
@som4859 Right, I forgot you fight different bosses in the same arena xD
Thanks!
@@bunglebenjoyerisn't it either Nepheli or Shabriri but not both at the same time?
Millicent and Alexanders questlines are my favorite because they genuinely feel like friends that are indebted to you and they are also some of the only NPCs in any souls game that choose their own death, they go out on their own terms and in Alexanders case he asks you to help him fulfill his wish as only a true friend and warrior can.
One thing that wasn't mentioned in the video, but Fromsoft added an optional way to complete Varre's quest line if you play offline (or just don't want to invade some sweaty tryhards). If you make it to Altus Plateau and get to the Writheblood Ruins, you can invade an NPC that will complete the quest. It also allows you to get a second Great Stars if you want two for some reason (maybe you want to be a super chad wielding rusty morning stars for some reason). Upon killing him, you can return to Varre and continue the quest line as normal.
Dual-wielding them with a Prayerful Strike and Poisonous Mist ash to swap between was one of the most fun runs I had, honestly. Just... so much healing. I stopped stocking Crimson flasks because it genuinely just wasn't worth it.
Well, until Farum Azula, anyway. Goddamn GSD.
Use finger. Invade world but use the finger severer to go back to your own world, it will still count as a successful invasion.
@@Naptastic_voyage **IF** you connect to the internet (or are able to). Maybe you bought a console version and didn't want to spend for their online service, for example.
@@SilverFoxR right, but I'm just saying you don't actually have to fight the annoying tryhards, the invasion attempt is enough.
Yes. I am aware.
24:12 little known fun fact. If you die to the dragon after he warned you you can summon him to help you against it
Apparently you don’t even need to die to it, you just need to HIT it and run to Yura and he’ll call you a halfwit and still want to fight with you
@@LowTierVergil_Official "You attacked the dragon?! Damn, you're a fucking dumbass. Alright, let's roll."
@@LowTierVergil_OfficialChad calls us a dumbass and still refuses to let us kill ourselves. Fucking epic.
For some reason you can't ride torrent after summoning Yura, so he actually makes the fight harder.
@@illuminarchie6383ye exactly man idk why people give out this tip when it made the fight 10x harder for me way back when 💀
It's crazy how different everyone's experiences are with the game. On my first playthrough I naturally came across every one of Hyettas quest points and my player has been madness themed every since.
Same, the frenzied flame is my wallpaper
I found it on my second playthrough. I had started with the left side of liurnia resulting in me considering the shack cleared.
But my friend naturally backtracks repeatedly and had it basically set up in one game session.
So I kinda get the argument either way.i feel like if she gave a compass direction with a gesture to the 'light' id have had it no problem. But also probably would have over searched on the way to the capital. So... *Shrug*
It mad me mad on how he dissed the frenzy seal, madness incantations are alright in Pve but PVP is a whole different level
@xOrbxt frenzied bust is one of the best magic spells in the game I think especially for pve because the ai can't dodge it. Frenzied flame skill boosts in by 20%
For me, I kinda had a similar situation with Millicent, although I did need to do some research towards the end to kill that damn sack of putrid shit lizard in that puddle of aids juice, buuut it was worth it
I genuinely cried to the ending of Alexander's questline. By the end of it I cared for the character and they grew on me. They were with us the whole way. His questline isn't great because of the charm, it was great because he felt REAL.
When he said he wanted to fight... Oh man... I knew what was coming but it still hurt a lot... But honestly it hurt almost as much seeing Millicent, and after seeing a lore video about what happened to Iji... Blaidd wasn't corrupted when we killed him. He thought he was protecting Ranni..
Have you played Dark Souls 1? Solaire 🥲
>"You're strong, let me fight you!"
>Has awesome NPC fight
>Gets his ass kicked
>"I regret nothing"
>Dies laughing
We love alexander
Selevus is the only NPC that I attacked on principles on my first playthrough. I still think it was justified.
You still are. Dude makes sex toys out of actual people.
I killed Boggart on my first play through, honestly, I didn't like his attitude.
This reminds me when I slap/hit patches after he sended through that chest trap, 😂. I felt it was also justified.
Dung eater has consistently been on my "kill on sight" list.
He's THAT bad.
@@FaustusSeven”I aSkEd YoU nOt To diStUrB mE oMg Ur So LuCkY tHe RoUnTaBlE iS kEePiNg Me FrOm DeFiLiNg Ur BoOtY 💩😡😡😡” that alone made me INSTANTLY target him the moment I saw him underground. Massive point down emote moment. :) 👇👇👇👇👇
I think some of this npcs "quest" are there so you don't miss others... for example Gowry's quest is just there so you have clues to find Milicent
Honestly, i think treating gowry as a separate quest is a bit pedentic as he is pretty much just a part of Millicent quest.
I found millicent first time exploring caelid and ı couldnt know what to do ı remember every 2 or 3 hours checking by millicent if ı did anything related , but then when ı found grace in sellen magic village(whatever the name of that place is) ı saw a glowing text near Grace telling me visiting the shackle before of that point ı was running around dont know exactly what to do ı even tried leveling up my character s immunity stats a higher point thinking maybe i can resist scarlet rot to help millicent 😅
@@blackbloom8552 Agree with you, you NEED him to do Milli quest, he's the one to fix the needle and the one that tell you where to shove it.
@@blackbloom8552 its not like the two diverge aswell. Its Millicents quest is inside gowrys 😂
Remember, Varre's questline got patched to include an npc in Altus that you can evade even if offline, which drops a second Great Stars if defeated. You don't even need to beat him too, you can invade the npc, die, and go back to Varre.
I'm sorry, but Boggart's death gives you his Bell Bearing and giving it to the husks actually makes it far more convenient to get infinite damage negation crabs. Sorry Boggart. Move closer to a Grace next time.
Bloody agreed.
He can’t see graces anymore
Fun fact, Irina and Hyetta are likely the same person. The latter doesn’t appear unless the former is dead, they look extremely similar, and her father having one of the grapes fits thematically.
Bud, they ARE the same person. Same face, same voice actress, same everything. Only thing we don't know is what kinda Frenzied Voodoo bullshit happened to make Irina become Hyetta.
@@atlasgraham154 I say “likely” because it’s never even addressed (let alone confirmed) anywhere in game. In theory it could just be reused assets, though I find that unlikely personally.
@@baconsir1159 this is the first time ive heard this but i 100% believe it. on my latest playthrough i just ran to get the claymore without speaking to any of them, after beating godrick she was not there dont understand any of the connections or how/irina has to die for her to exist
@crownedguzz6190most likely. I mean, Vyke’s corpse gets possessed by Shabriri, why not Irina?
Hmm that does fall in like with the Melina being both Miquella AND St. Trina. One of the evidences for Melina being St. Trina (apart from her being mega suspicious with no explanation who she is) is that Melina consistently demonstrates powers to put people to sleep throughout the game. And no one besides melina and st trina can do that. But mostly I’m banking on melina having a big reveal on who she really is
Personally my all time favorite quest is the jellyfish quest. Why?
Its because everything about the quest is so cute, the jellyfish and their interaction, and the length of the quest is nice too. I wish we got more quests of similar length to this one.
I also love that quest. It was nice that one of my first summons had its own happy ending after I carried it with me the whole game.
Oh, allow me to ruin that for you. The Jellyfish sisters are dead children. You can find a grave not far that has the summons name
@@ValbrandrLeonhardt I know they're dead, but the you can help them reunite, and their reunion is really sweet.
@ValbrandrLeonhardt yep, I know that too, which makes it better that the player reunites them since themselves can't do that because you know... they're dead. Now theirs souls are together thanks to the player.
My brother and I swear by the Jellyfish summon, that she's the best summon in the game. She's saved us countless times in boss battles by taking agro long enough for us to heal and get back in the fight. She truly felt like a companion by the time I reached the endgame, and getting to help her reunite with her sister was a beautiful end to our adventures.
Ya know,Thinking back on Thops quest chain deeply, Especially after finishing the game.
It kinda warms my heart but equally saddens me in a way too. It really is one of the best yet simplest side quest off of the game.
All you gotta do is to simply talk with him and give him the key he requested. After that he was genuinely excited that he got a chance to visit the academy and unlike Sellen, he doesn't seem to have any ill intentions or messed up motives but as someone who just want prove something and achieve his dream of making a spell no other sorcerers could come up with. So he immediately started studying and in the end, he finally created a brand new spell that could literally negates even the mightiest of all spells,Such as the Elden beast's Elden Stars which straight up jaw dropped me but alas he unfortunately passed away as a result.
What really gets me is the fact that Thops is considered as someone who had zero talent in sorcery, Hence his title being "bluntstone".
Yet the very man, conjured and created a spell that could protect you from gods is truly something else if you pay enough attention.
Hence why it warmed me knowing i helped him to achieve his dream by doing something as simple as giving him a key, a small act of kindness.
but i also feel sad knowing he wasn't alive anymore to see his creation but he will be remembered and i sure as hell wish i could thank him for protecting me from one of the most annoying spells in the entire game if he were alive.
Another thing about the spell Thops created. In the description it says it worthy of a new conspectus (the branches of magic they study i think) of the Academy. Thops literally created a new spell that was never thought of before and died without knowing it how much of a discovery it was.
Damn 😢
How exactly did he die though anyway? Was the act of creating the spell too much for him? Did he get headbutted by the Burger King mascot while testing it agains physical damage?
@random_something1852 Yeah, the NPC sudden death syndrome after quests doesn't make sense in Elden Ring like it did in the Souls series. Perhaps he fell victim to the eldritch horrors that surround glintstone study but was lucky enough not to become a graven mass.
At least he died with his eyes closed. So its safe to assume he passed peacefully
*find character*
*talk 3 times*
*reset*
*repeat*
*character is injured*
"Zanzibart, forgive me..."
*dies*
*get item that doesn't fit your build*
BRAVO MICHAELZAKI
lmao the funniest part is that that’s how it’s been since DkS1 and we all act like it’s this mind blowing thing
The entire point of Kenneth's questline is to put you in the direction of the first half of the Dectus medallion. It also would've made more sense for the second half of the medallion to be located in Fort Gael, not in the fort that's in an area with endgame scaling
I think he also redeems himself a bit as a character since he quickly acknowledges Nepheli and supports her rule over Stormveil. He may be an old bureaucrat, but at least he does think about "the realm" and tries to find a good leader.
Technically dragonbarrow is supposed to be unlocked after Sellia and thats somewhat early game
The tree guardians there give 1000 runes a piece.
Thats like bosses in limgrave@@xlgapelsin6173
Also he drops a golden seed when killed.
So thats a bonus 😂😂
that is not endgame scaling area
I like to believe that to get the Albuneric Medallion Gideon destroyed the whole village while Albus hid in the pot, when he see's that we have the first part he sends ensha to us to kill us in order to get it, and if ensha fails he apologizes and brushes it off.
Lil backstabber !
that's basically what happened lil bro
*Rya at 35th place*
*chat picks up pitchforks*
*Rusty quickly explains himself*
Chat: 'You are forgiven... FOR NOW!'
Hes not
His order is weird. Thops , latenna diallos doesn't feel like good quests for me and are in top ten and the interesting quests rya, gowry dung eater are so behind
I found her quest really cool in the sense that if you pay attention to what she says you can find the illusionary wall in the volcano manor that then leads to rykards area, so 35th place is really harsh
Dudee ensha in #16💀💀💀
Actually the worst take of the video, ryas quest isnt forgettable, its the only way you even remotely get to emotionally connect with tanith, ranking the quest based on the reward and calling the reward bad when its LITERALLY THE CALAMITY RING is also bad, rusty sucks in this video fr
Genuinely love Millicent, I don't think I'll ever be able to bring myself to invade her even when doing the frenzied flame ending.
Betraying her at the end is the only way to save her life.
@@lharsay That may be so, but she doesn't want to be anything but herself. She says so herself that she'd rather rot than to flower.
@@lharsay You’re not saving her she takes the needle out herself because she doesn’t want to “become something I’m not” and be a puppet of the rot
I killed her at Dominula on my 2nd playthrough for the talisman, but I felt so bad.
@@lharsay What's the point in surviving if you're not living? Better to die free than to live in chains to the Rot God.
totally screenshotting 33:10, you explained the exact feelings i had when trying to introduce my friend to elden ring, and they killed boc on first sight. Literally every npc we met, their first quesiton was "do they drop anything good?". thank you rusty, very cool
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I hate how you pretty much have to use a wiki to complete all of them. NPCs just moving to seemingly random locations, requiring backtracking and luck to find.
100%
Stuff like that would be amazing like 20 years back where people would be spending hundreds of hours exploring the game without any help from the internet, at best using game magazines and their friends to learn some stuff.
It's just different times now I think, people can still do it but it's now a mental effort.
There's so many ways to bug the quests out and lock progression and just have 0 in game pointers towards where to go next it just becomes annoying.
Biggest issue I have with souls games is NPC's will say "goodbye, hope to see you again" and then they'll just disappear.
I didn't know onion man in DS3 appears in a random fucking well until I read about it because he quite literally *falls asleep* after the demon fight.
@@Verchiel_ plus, no fn game back then was even half as large as ER. I honestly think without the internet most gamers wouldn't know about a third of the game
@@mamoruchiba752 I certainly don't think I would.
I've done a decent job at covering limgrave and weeping peninsula when I started playing but even then I missed many talismans or weapons, enemies etc.
There's some absolutely obtuse bits of content you likely wouldn't guess or come across to solve.
@@Ch4pp13that’s a crazy example. You are forced to walk past the well twice at least.
23:14 the only one were you receive a modicum of affection back from a character, you interact with and it’s one of the few people that actually loved her companions so to speak. Additionally, it’s the only quest that relinquishes the control of outer gods completely unless the moon is a outer god
She uses the Tarnished, Blaidd and Ijii, and then disposes.of each of them appart from the player when they aren't needed anymore.
Wdym, Alexander seems to enjoy our company quite a bit, and we do end up granting him the warriors death he always desired. I'd say he's pretty affectionate. Not to mention almost the entirety of Bocs dialogue being thanking you.
@@robertspeedwagon982 she is the most moral upstanding demigod by far given everything we know iji always knew he would die and he served her regardless some suspect that the black lives were actually security detail and not there to kill them given the color of the flames on iji’s body it could be more plausible. He was attacked by disciples of the glows eyed Queen.
Oddly enough, Blaidd is a programmed assassin of the golden order she knew this and still treated him fairly. The grew as kids together and even in his madden state, she did not want to kill him she didn’t just dispose of people. Her entire court knew that following her was going to lead to their death and they did it anyway
Miquella well, I should not have to explain everything he’s done wrong Malenia likewise is just as guilty
Rykard tortured, seemingly dozens if not, hundreds of abinorocs and in cut lore sexually abused a man married also doesn’t father his children, and is the Lord of blasphemy
Morggot despite being normal, supports the golden order, which does a lot of fucked up things to include removing freedoms and trying to rewrite history
Godrick dismembered people engrafted there corpses to his body that is desecration the actual crime of desecration no immediate prison time not respecting the dead is insane
Radahn while probably the most noble of the demigods aside from Ronnie, it’s just not in any condition to lead anything
Out of everyone Ranni did the least damage the golden order had problems, and was corrupt from the very start her killing Godwyn is bad but the way when I can only assume are second generation hornsent were treated is abominable what they did to Marika people in her village was bad..
But did the fire Giants need to eat shit for it?
Did the carrion family need to get overthrown? And m put in the state of stasis?
Was it necessary to torture Albanoric?
Shackling your children in a sewer is just bad even if they resemble your oppressors, there is no reason to treat them that way because they’re not your oppressors? The DOC tries really hard to make me feel bad for her but when I think about all these things and how they did the dragons filthy, I just can’t pull myself to Care enough to discount her actions, and say what she did was somewhat acceptable like burning, the hornsent? fine but seriously the fucking fire Giants and the Carian and family have to eat shit to? And you have to do your husband Godfrey filthy? Nah Godwyn’s death is a consequence of her actions.
@@Reliccontent The Carians weren't overthrown by the GO either, Rennala was locked in her room by the other heads of the Academy, Marika and her order had absolutely nothing to do with it. Torturing the Albunaurics isn't confirmed to have been done by the Golden Order. The Order killed them as they were artificial beings unlinked to the Erdtree. The Fire Giants were natural ennemies of the Erdtree, as the only ones capable of burning it down, they were the biggest menace, it was a necessary war to keep the Order safe. Shackling the Omen twins was cursed, but at least she treated them exactly how any omen would have been treated. Godfrey was to leave because Grace left him after he slew everything capable of being a proper challenge, as a Warrior, he probably didn't really care that much. Again, he was banished like every other Tarnished, even if he was the Elden Lord.
It is also theorised that the fusion of Radagon and Marika in their marriage was the doing of the Greater Will/Two Fingers, Marika was thus forced to banish Godfrey to be able to marry Radagon.
"Godwyn's death is a consequence of her actions" no, it is not, it's a consequence of Ranni and Rykard's scheming. You also presented the other Demigods crimes for some reason, well some of the worst among them, Rykard, was Ranni's only ally among the demi gods.
Iji probably knew he would die at some point since Ranni's plan was dangerous, but he probably didn't thought he would be killed by her orders.
@@robertspeedwagon982 Melina will tell you that Marika stripped the tarnished of their grace herself, in one of the churches. There is zero evidence that Ranni ordered the deaths of Blaidd and Iji, just because she worked with the Black Knives once, does not mean that they work for her. Also the flames burning Iji's body is Godslayer fire, not Destined Death, and Godslayer fire is only used by, the Godslayers, and the Baleful Shadows. If the BKA still work for Ranni then it makes more sense that they were guards who failed to protect Iji, rather than his assassins, or they were disguised Shadows, like how the one we faced was disguised as Blaidd. If they aren't working with Ranni, then it doesn't make sense why they attacked her friends, Ranni gave them their knives, what they do with them has nothing to do with Ranni. Sure, Alecto was sealed away at the Moonlight alter, but that wasn't Ranni's doing, because guess what else was at the alter,...the TWO FINGERS that Ranni was avoiding presumably for centuries. Ranni's actions are what caused their deaths, but not directly. Ranni is at most a morally gray character, which is about as good as it gets for a souls character.
Other than Ranni's quest, Millicent's is one of my favourites in the game. Helping her get back up from the rot and figthing side by side through the lands between, eventually leading to one of my favourite areas in the game- Elphael.
What’s crazy about all of these quests is that at launch most of them were unfinished. Literally like almost a year later patches quest was finally finished in a patch. So was Alexander’s with the little pot village. No telling what other quests were unfinished and they patched in later those are the only two I remember
I still think Blaidd got done dirty and I feel like there should be some way to help him or turn him into a puppet summon. I'd love that in a DLC. Anything is better than now.
All of Nepheli’s quest after giving her the stormhawk king was patched in after release too I’m pretty sure
Jarburg was added about a month after the game came out.
Not to mention there's still apparently something to do with Patches and Tanith that needs an ending
After you beat Rykard and meet Patches in a different location, he gives you an item than you can then give to Tanith that doesn't do anything as of yet
Maybe it'll get expanded on in the dlc but I have no idea
Bandai Namco is a horrible publisher 😠
I can’t wait to watch Rusty redo all of his ranking videos once the DLC comes out!
I'm waiting for Rusty to rank all of Rusty's ranking videos
I like Rya's quest because the rule loot drop is the best. Knowing one good NPC gets to live and have a happier ending. Its the little thing you know.
I literally talked to D like once in the Roundtable Hold and never thought about him again. Then i went to go hug Fia again because I hadn't in a long time and felt bad for her, and out of nowhere she gives me the weathered dagger and tells me to find its owner. And I swear my brain had some bad timing because right after i walked out of the room i saw D and thought 'hmm i havent talked to him in a while either', saw the option to give him the dagger, and then he was dead, so.
I think the frenzied flame seals' lack of requirements is specifically to make anyone that tries to figure out why go mad
The only good thing about that seal is that you can offhand it and still get the 20% damage bonus to frenzy flame spells, so you can use a better seal like the Erdtree Seal, and still deal the bonus damage of the Frenzied Flame Seal.
@@PhazoGanonSeal is also good for INT build that want Law of Regression for PvP
It's pretty simple why it has no requirements. They only way you can get it is by having the frenzied flame inhabit your body. It's just a part of you, and any strength you gain makes it better as a result
@@jstar3382 very nicely thought out!
my own theory is that since frenzy wants to "melt it all to nothing", it has no requirements as it is chaos incarnate, nothing and everything in one
or something of the like, I'm sure that phrase has something to do with it
@@PhazoGanonIt also **scales with dex, strength, and int**. With 40/40 Str/Dex and 22 faith, you can pewpew for 223 incantation power, and actually pump out pretty good damage on frenzied burst.
I adore how I can hear the laughter in "rank all of the runebears"😂
Warrior Jar Alexander is my favorite NPC and favorite NPC quest. It's a friendly rivalry between you both with each trying to prove they are the best. Like Red & Gary.
This game is crazy. Several hundred hours of playtime and I've never seen/spoken to Boc, or the small jar, and each playthrough forgot Dallios existed after the initial conversation with him at the roundtable. I didn't even know they had quests. Learn something new every day with this game
You find Boc pretty early in the game. But he's disguised as a tree, so he's easy to miss. He does talk when you're nearby. But on my first playthrough, I didn't realize NPCs could potentially be disguised as scenary. And ended up googling the "random" talking that happens in that area.
I still feel like nephelis is a great quest, its littearly one of the only quests where the characters dont die and go insane, I was hoping sellen wouldnt end up dying because my headcanon would be that nepheli and sellen along with maybe rya could all join up with me in leading the lands between when i become elden lord, its just nice to know that when I become elden lord nepheli will be there to help out, the fact that you can also summon her for the godfrey fight especially considering how shes related to horah loux makes it all the more special to me
nephelis quest was honestly just tragic to me, she was adopted by gideon when she lost her grace, she tries her very best to be a strong good honorable warrior, she helps you out with godrick and then goes out into the world to explore, she then finds the horrors of the albanuric village and then her father straight up abandons her because she ended up getting too deep into his biusness, she enters a depressed state because she has nothing left, no father to guide her, no grace to guide her, she is a warrior without purpose, but giving her the hawk ashes helps reminds her of her past, and she gains a new purpose in becoming the leader of stormveil castle along with kennith (who yes kennith is kinda weird but in a sort of oddly endearing way, he reminds me of a lot of those posh aristocrat stereotypes)
the most intersting part is that she can either have the best ending in the game or the absolute worst if you decide to be an absolute monster and give her the serum
also you get TWO ANCIENT DRAGON SMITHING STONES for beating her quest, thats two potential fully maxed out weapons if your early enough, I really like her character and im glad that the update gave a resolution to her quest that isnt just "character dies or goes insane"
Varres questline has another way to finish it, without having to go online. You have to kill Magnus the Beast Claw in one of the Ruins in Altus Plateau, if I'm not mistaken.
This
You don't even have to kill him, you can just invade then use the Finger Severer item
This was added after a patch or two. I still remember when you had to invade online three times to do this (not win, just invade).
When they added the alternate method, I suddenly cared again
I'm currently running through patch 1.0, and I ran through Varre's quest by "invading" to help Yuna. All totally offline, so that's an option too
I've always felt like the side quests here have some of the best and the worst of what the game has to offer, at least in terms of writing. There are some excellent characters and great writing, and then there are some moments that just scream 'this area felt a bit empty but we wrote ourselves into a thematic corner, so we're just going to drop a random quest here.' It really feels like in a game like Elden Ring, side quests almost never feel like they're as important or interesting than the main story. Which... okay, I realize that was a 'no shit Sherlock' sort of statement, but it feels particularly accentuated here that the game could use about half the side quests being dropped because they don't feel like a part of the world, they feel like a part of the game.
"They don't feel like a part of the world, they fee like a part of the game."
Dayum, that is a really strong and affecting statement. Thinking about side quests in games like that could help a game dev take their game from good to great. Legitimately excellent advice, man
I didn't care about a single character except maybe Bob. was very disappointed that you can't kill the ghost upgrade girl. I guess from is trying to go mainstream. what happened to killing Andre and fuking yourself over for the whole playthrough?
So slight correction about the Patches quest: You can't teleport back until you find another site of grace.
the greater will isn't intolerant, it just wants some kind of order
it offers the player like five different kinds
the only reason it even got pissed is because marika decided--for literally no reason other than emotion--that being a rebis wasn't fun any more
That's why Gold Mask's ending is the best I think. He fixes the Golden Order by making it to where the God in charge cannot be influenced by human emotions anymore.
To be fair to Marika, godhood hasn't really been working out in her favor. All of her kids, except one, are cursed. Her first set of twins represent the very people she hates. And despite sealing death away, her only uncursed child is not just murdered. But given a half death that leaves his body to ruin things for the living. A death that was brought about by her enemy and her other half's child. Being a god is probably very limiting in what you actually can do.
5:34 for reference, at 30 faith and 40 dex the frenzied flame seal does equal damage as the godslayer seal itself when casting godslayer incants, even with the latter's boost. on dex/faith hybrid builds it *well* outshines the finger and godslayer seals at anything that isn't only affected by the faith portion of your spellbuff (order's blade, bfb, healing incants etc). can't say it doesn't have its niche
There are two elements of the Seluvis quest I love: first his animation where he bends over to talk in your ear. It's so unnerving in the perfect way for the pattern of static NPC poses during dialogue to be broken in such an uncomfortable way. Second is the Dung Eater's voice line as you turn him into a puppet. It captures the theft of agency that puppetry entails, and it's sad that I've seen nobody else praise this vocal performance because it's so hidden and locked behind being a piece of shit, but hey that's From Software for you. Also, doesn't Shabriri show up as a summon for Godfrey if you complete his quest? Likewise for Nepheli Loux. Also, I hope Gideon gets an alternate questline path in the DLC, and I really hope Kalé gets a questline implemented there too.
There was a questline for Kalé initially, but they cut it. One quest involved you collecting "mist" from sleeping enemies that he would use to sleep himself and ease his frenzy. And another sends you down the underground prison to discover the fate of the other nomads. Hyetta more or less replaced that role.
@@Svoorhout85 I know all too well how they cut the best vocal performance in the game 😭
Maybe we'll see Kalé in the trailer tonight (if there is one at all)
Millicent was my favorite despite how long it was! She is true waifu! A sword maiden who wants to be by your side and fight alongside you? Yes please! Hell even at the end she didn’t want the rot to cause you harm as well.
She's armed and dangerous
Doesn't she also invade, you. Than she dies soo idk about the title of greatest waifu if you know you can be with her and she has at least one attempted murder of you.
@@christianlangdon3766The scarlet rot drove her insane (same as Radahn) but she regains her consciousness after losing her right arm. The way she fixes her hair as soon as she can stand up after you give her the needle shows that she almost certrainly wasn't conscious whe she invaded you in the swamp.
@lharsay I mean cool idea, but like many things In elden ring there is nothing to support this aside from looks. It's just as possible that she is a mass murderer who killed 90 percent of all caelids intelligent lifeforms, and upon losing to you, she happens to gain amnesia and becomes a good person.
Obviously, yours is more plausible, but mine isn't like impossible within the context and info that elden Rang provides because it's 0.
@@christianlangdon3766 I take her changing hairstyle as a strong evidence because it's the only time we see an NPC change hair in any Souls game. If she was evil with amnesia we would find that out later but there is nothing that would suggest that.
10:04 Regarding Gurranq: You don't actually have to fight him, I just ported somewhere else, did some other stuff and when I came back he was relaxed, apologized and gave me an incantation as a peace offer.
Don't happen with me. I just checked and he still attacked me.
another fun fact: you don't actually have to beat Gurranq, just slap him a couple of times and he'll surrender and apologize for losing his mind.
after that, if you reload the area he will be outside howling at the erdtree (where Marika is)... this doesn't really go anywhere, but its pretty neat.
On the first Playthrough of Elden Ring I did I managed to progress Alexander all the way through and he is totally number one, after fighting him it gave me a genuine smile like it was the last bout of honor for him.
I found something out about Shabriri, if you get the frenzied ending before you get to the mountaintops and don't kill him, then you get to summon him for Godfrey, it's so wierd
My current run is a Kenneth Haight playthrough. I’ve got his face data and all kinds of restrictions- I have to at least have all his weapons/spells, I have to dress like a noble, and goofy little things like “don’t hurt demi-humans because we’re reestablishing communication with them”
This is legendary, the great Kenneth Haight would approve
Kenneth is a really decent and sometimes loveable character. He is the only noble NPC in the game that took the noble codes to his heart (compared to the cut noble NPC that treats omens like shxt).
Ken is an absolute gem
5:30 to explain, the Frenzied Flame Seal scales slightly with Strength, Dexterity, Intellegence, and Faith, meaning you only have to invest the stats needed for the incantations while leveling your preferred stat and still have it scale up, no matter your build, so that's what makes it better than the Finger Seal for builds that don't use high Faith or Arcane
Jerren is actually not an issue with Sellen's quest cause he won't appear to kill her until after you extract her primal glintstone. Most of the time I find myself doing it at the very end of the game for the smithing stone and it works without issue.
Ryas questline is well liked because it’s one of the only ones where the npc can survive at the end. Pretty neat
Yea, but it sounded like she continues Tanith/Rykard's craziness. So not really a plus to me.
I love how you have Marble Gallery from Symphony of the Night playing in the background. Really adds atmosphere to you riffing off every NPC quest. 😂
This video brings a type of "was done with everything in life but rediscovered the joys of liveing" vibe that i just really like, idk anything about your personal life but you sound really happy making this video and i think thats really cool
I'm only at the intro but it's nice knowing that by the time the DLC is out Rusty still won't be out of things to rank and by then he'll have to redo half of his rankings again.
you're my number 1 NPC quest rusty
I’ve killed Gostoc on sight every single playthrough and never knew he had such a good piece of loot. Ah well.
I love hearing Symphony of the Night background music in your videos, great choice
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@@weirdeurasianboy8091 go be weird elsewhere
@@Naptastic_voyage 😭
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OH MY GOD FINALLY A FELLOW FORTISSAX ENJOYER??? I DIDNT KNOW THE DAY WOULD COME WHERE I WATCH A VIDEO INCLUDING FORTISSAX WHERE SOMEONE DOESN'T TEAR HIM APART
You have earned my utmost respect for this.
Didn't know people hated that fight, it's one of the few fun dragon fights in the game. Even the death blight which I thought was gonna be a huge annoyance wasn't that big of a deal.
@@The_Novu Exactly, people say the lightning under him is annoying since you cant lock onto his feet and the fact that half of his attacks are the same as the other ancient dragons.
Personally he is in my top 3 favorite bosses in elden ring and it makes me sad seeing how much hate he gets
The FrenzyFlame seal is the only item that let's you punch someone until they go insane.
I'll always get a little teary-eyed when remembering Alexander's quest line. What a champion.
One thing I like about Rya’s quest is the multiple ways it can end. When she asks you to kill her you can
1. Kill her
2. Give her the tonic of forgetfulness
3. Not kill her and kill Rykard instead to which is the best outcome
26:00 Yeah, Blaidd's fate is hard coded. If you keep advancing Ranni's questline, he will end up in Evargaol. So you have to decide whether you want the best boy to live and be without a blue girlfriend.
"Hello? Is anybody there? Someone who might be Interested in ranking the great Kenneth Haight!"
One thing to note is that killing Radahn before progressing Sellens quest does not end it. I have done Radahns fight almost every single time before the Sellen questline and Jerren always waits to kill her until after I've gotten the primal glintstone. Maybe there's a small caveat that I've managed to miss that makes him kill her but I've never had it happen.
I think you're fine as long as you don't return to talk to Jerren after killing Radahn. Because I've also killed Radahn before getting Sellen's Primal Glintstone.
@@charles-edouardmorel3173 maybe, I’d have to test it but I think I’ve done that as well.
I think it's that, because I didn't know you could talk to Jerren again until I realized that I didn't have some item you get from him.
Nope your doing it correctly. Same way i saw a dude on Twitter say that Ranni's quest is too easy to fail despite its only accidental fail trigger is completing any other ending lol
As someone who recently got into Elden ring and am constantly browsing the internet for progression and advice, I found your previous videos to be boons for me, so thank you for sharing your thoughts and advice to the public.
Have you beat it yet? If not, where are you in your playthrough? Just curious.
@@Knivess0 I think I’m pretty far along the game- I’m in the area with the fire giant, I’ve bested Radahn and Rennala, going for a mostly strength build with a sword and shield.
First time Elden Ring player, so far my only serious major gripe for the entire game is how limited your side quest selection is.
The moment to moment combat can be harsh, but it's a storm worth weathering, but an NPC killing another NPC on the other side of the world without your input and locking you out of a great weapon, spell, talisman, worldbuilding, or, God forbid, an entire ending, just because you "explored too much" just feels objectively unfair.
There isn't even a tracker for any of those side quests, or even a bookmark for "the one sidequest you care about". I get that that would clutter the very clean UI the game has but...I need to make sure ShitEater stays away from my crawfish guy
I love Rusty because he keeps it real and isn't afraid to speak his mind
Same, he is based and is not afraid to call out flaws.
I think the Spirit Jellyfish quest counts, if for no other reason than I really like it for its simplicity and how it needs a creative solution purely from the player's intuition and knowledge.
The only problem I have with it is that when you finish it, it should really upgrade your Spirit Jellyfish Spirit Ash into a 'Spirit Jellyfish Sisters' Ash that summons both. I know I know, that might destroy the game's balance, is it really able to handle TWO Spirit Jellyfishes? But you only get it in a late game area, it shouldn't be too big of a problem.
Also it could give us the sister's name. I'm thinking probably Argentia or something similar to keep up the theme.
You forgot Roderika's Jellyfish. She is a good sponge against every enemy and the diallogue of the stars... Hits different
My favorite quest chains :
1) ranni, iji, blaidd
2) Millicent, Gowry
3) Alexander
4) Corbyn, Goldmask
5) Fia, DnD, Rogier
6) any npc quest linked to frenzy
7) Diallos, jarbairn
8) Volcano manor quests (zorayas, bernahl, patches, tanith...)
9) Nepheli, Gideon, Kenneth
10) sellen and jerren
Bonus : maidenless guy, hewg and roderika and Guranq. Guranq does give some of my favorite rewards tho.
I'd probably put Diallos and Jarbairn at number 4 and Nehpeli/Kenneth at 5 (moving Coryn/Goldmask and Fia and co. down), but otherwise I basically agree with you here. Definitely think Ranni and co. have the best storyline as a group, Millicent is really solid and only falls short since there isn't much else related to Rot/Miquella (which might change with the DLC), and Alexander is similarly great and is improved by Jarbairn as well, only just falling short of Millicent.
Good list!
I think, Rusty got a little over his head putting Ranni quest at 11th place. Extravaganza is ok but only to some extent.
If you give Rodericka the Memento, you can find a Crimson Red Hood back in the room where you found the Memento
In my first playthrough I received the Pureblood Knight's Medal before I got to Altus. But I listened to Varre and the item description and waited patiently.
I accidentally arrived at Mohgwyn Palace by blindly taking the teleporter from Consecrated Snowfield, well after I defeated Gideon. I then remembered the medal and finally used it, which warped me to where I was already standing. I was like wut, srsly, I was supposed to betray the questline and use this!?
before the Barrier of Gold nerf, the Frenzy Seal was the best choice for a mage to cast Law of Regression, other than that this seal scales with every stats except arc, so it's pretty good for like dex/faith builds that lean more into dex
...except that's also incorrect, because you can cast Law of Regression with any seal, whether you meet the requirements or not. All that matters is whether you meet the requirements of the spell. I'm not sure why it works that way, but it works, even in PvP. It's been my go-to opener ever since I figured that out.
@@notquitenil wtf, well, at least it's still the only one that scales with dex, which is nice 'cause vyke spear scales better with dex than with faith
Alexander carried me in that fire giant fight. His uppercut special attack can insta stance break that giant
(I think, it all happened so fast and I was behind the giant while Alexander was in front, I only saw flashes of flame coming from him, not the giant and saw the giant topple down seconds after I stance broke him earlier)
lol huge respect for leaving the Millicent “fanart” in the description 🤣
Ah yes, my boy Alexander at number one, just where it should be-DID HE JUST SHORYUKEN!?
The reward for Rya's quest is knowing she's off on an adventure and happier.
It's the friends we made along the way :)
Rya's quest is weird, especially considering Boc's quest where you can call him beautiful yet not the same for her.
Well in Rya's case it's not a matter of "ohhhh I'm ugly :(".
It's "the woman I thought was my mother lied to me my entire life and I'm actually the spawn of a horrid ritual involving one of history's greatest villains"
@@ByzanQueen yes but why can't I be nice to her anyway
@@smergthedargon8974 Based
@@ByzanQueen My point was meant to be "Why can we help Boc accept himself but not Rya?"
Something I also like about Bernahl regarding his armor is how he was painted up to be a candidate for Elden Lord. He wasn’t like most other Tarnished, he was up there with Vyke in power and fame until his maiden sacrificed herself to get Bernahl to Farum Azula.
Edit: I also think you missed Jerren’s quest line. Which gives you the earliest Dragon smithing stone in the game progression wise.
I think Bernahl's maiden died before he got to Farum Azula. If I'm remembering correctly, she tried to act the part of the kindling Maiden but ended up just burning with nothing to show, which lead to him joining the Recusants for revenge on the Erdtree and Greater Will for the death of his Maiden.
The only one who can light the flame is Melina, as she's quite literally born to do it. Well, her or the Frenzied Flame.
@@atlasgraham154 Even if the Erdtree didn’t burn when his maiden threw herself into the fire, he was still sent to Farum Azula one way or another.
@@Yharim_The_Impaler I mean, so was Alexander. And Bernahl invaded Farum Azula, and from npcs like Vyke, Dungeater, and Alberich, we know that you don't have to be in an area to invade it.
@@atlasgraham154 Alexanders different. He most likely jumped into the Giant’s Forge which sent him to Farum Azula. Given how we know Alexander was attempting to temper his body in Mt Gelmirs flames, how he said he was going East, and the fact that the Forge of the Giants is directly East from where we talk to Alexander at Mt Gelmir, it can be inferred that he physically jumped into the forge after the Fire Giant was killed and was sent to Farum Azula.
Another difference is that Vyke, Bernahl, Dung Eater, and Alberich are all Tarnished. Which meant they can invade others. But Alexander is a Living Jar. And so far we don’t see or know of any living jars that invade us.
They need to give us Alexander's sick upper cut as an ash of war for fist weapons
It ought to be a remembrance, because he’s a goddamn Legend.
Note and Fun Fact: NPC invasions where you invade NPCs for several questlines, like Yura's and Tanith's, counts as invasions for Varre's quest for that juicy early Moghwyn's palace.
i went through my first play through without doing a single npc quest. i didn’t know they were a thing
I found your channel last week and have watched like 60 of your videos. Its helped me get back into elden ring and lose my shit at terrible jokes. So much appreciated
"If you've already been inside Murkwater Cave, you can just teleport back."
Doesn't that chest trap prevent fast-traveling? Pretty sure all the teleport traps do. I mean, yeah, all you have to do is reach a bonfire, but needing to sneak around a runebear is still more dangerous than, say, the one the transports you to the Divine Bridge.
You're like 15 seconds away from the nearest grace, and you probably already found it cuz it's right along the road
i like the ranking videos bit as much as the other guy but man do i miss the randomizer series, would love to see a second season
Same here. Was a lot of fun to watch
Gostoc’s “quest” is cool once you discover everything that’s happening… which is bad quest design.
Finding out the guy was stealing our souls was interesting, but nobody knew it was happening at the time. At most a small few people noticed a small discrepancy.
If you don’t have him open the main gate, he follows you the side way, and that he actually follows is pretty surprising (especially given how NPCs ‘move’ from place to place in these games)
If you move forward a certain amount, then go back, there are 3 places he’ll be, with unique & interesting dialogue at each spot.
See him the first time and he’ll open a shop back at the gate (he’ll also do this after you get the rusty key if you hadn’t seen him the 1st time)
Catch him all three times and he _stops stealing_ your souls! That’s cool. Granted by then you’re practically finished Stormveil…
Trouble is if, you don’t die between every grace that first time thru the game and also aren’t paying very close attention, you won’t see him in the three places he can be.
I get that From likes to be obscure, but _too_ much is left to discover months later from the wiki.
I’m still sad it made me skip the emotional early steps of Roderika’s quest because, for no good reason, she just gets skipped forward if you go near a site of grace in the next region north… oh and for no reason the site where you see Boc, that’s *very clearly* still in Stormveil and Limgrave, counts as being in the next region 🤦
Maybe it’s not “her quest”… but she and the smith develop a bond that goes all the way to the end of the game and breaks your damn heart at the end. It’s amazing. Why would they have the early part autocomplete goddamit
Rogier really should have been a more present NPC in the world, whose questline, actions and the decisions you make regarding him had impact on the progression of his journey; a shame he got relegated to a sick simp in Roundtable tbh, a real shame...
Great video tho :3
P.S. I wish helping Millicent with her ending gave you both the Rotten Winged Sword Insignia and Millicent's Prosthesis because she dies at the end why can't you just take if off her rotten body that always bothered me
We get a full look at Margit ripping off his own arm, it's gotta make you wonder, where does Millicent insert that needle that the screen has to turn black?
No we didn’t??
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Surely he meant Godrick.
The absolute last straw from seluvis is gating the magic scorpion charm behind his quest. Do you know how many times i started a character, ignored that asshole for a while and accidentally locked myself out of the charm by progressing the much more pleasant npc that is ranni? like, 3 times, man.
Same, I think I'm missing it on all of my int based PvP characters at the moment because I messed up his quest. (It's not that great in PvP at least)
The frenzied flame seal isnt good for builds that primarily focus on stats other than faith for its lack of a faith requirement, its good for those builds because it scales with dexterity, intelligence, faith and strength equally.
Its the same reason one for example might use the dragon comminion on their Arcane build even though they arent using any dragon communion miracles, you're getting more mileage out of the stats youve already invested in.
30:13 bro, helping Millicent is always better because the Talisman she gives you when you kill her has worse damage buff than the one she gives you when you help her, you kind of screwed this part.