Retro painting: the first Terminator from Warhammer 40,000 with Bob Naismith
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
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Special thanks to Bob Naismith. Check out his awesome 3d designs: www.bobnaismith.com/
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Terminator cinematics from the Space Hulk Deathwing video game trailer
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00:00 The History of Terminators in 40k
02:13 Meet Bob Naismith
02:43 The influence of The Forever War
03:55 The design of the model
05:20 25mm or 40mm?
06:50 Cleaning it up
08:25 The blue armour
11:25 Crimson Fist!
12:12 Extra details
13:55 Smoothing the highlights
14:25 Rogue Trader freehand
16:20 DONE!
17:18 Does this design have a future?
17:59 Bob Naismith's amazing 3d sculpts
18:40 It's worth HOW MUCH?! - Розваги
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Already on Audible, because of you :) But if you have book recommendations I would love to hear them as well! Audible is awesome.
@@roelandpellis3679 I know it's a bit obvious, but Jurassic Park was awesome! The differences from the film are really interesting.
@@roelandpellis3679 Jurassic Park read by Scott Brick was my first audible experience. I highly recommend it, as well as it's sequel, The Lost World.
Orrrrr of you want Warhammer books, well that all depends on your favorite faction! My introduction to the Black Library were the first 5 hooks of the Horus Heresy, which I would definitely reccomend. The Horus trilogy; Horus Rising, False Gods, Galaxy in Flames, followed by Flight of the Eisenstein and then Fulgrim. All great reads/ listens! My personal favorite BL book so far though is Lords of Silence, a book from the Death Guard's perspective. Wonderfully Nurgle filled read, and the narrator is also phenomenal.
I have plenty of other stuff in my library too that I love to reccomend!
@@MidwinterMinis Are you gonna also listen to it's sequel, The Lost World? It is just as good!
Is this video demonetized or why are there no ads?
I do find it kinda saddening that Bob puts himself down as a sculptor, humble as he is I think his work holds up incredibly and his influence shouldn't ever be downplayed
I think its actually a pretty cool model with only one real weakness - the helmet. Its in completely the wrong place - if you look at the arm and leg placements the 'helmet' is actually sticking out of the chest, so the Marine's head should be poking out of the top. Unless its meant to be such a big suit of armour that its actually a small mech and the Marine is actually inside the torso. Otherwise I like it - the power fist looks great in particular.
@@andromidius just mind this was back when scale and proportions weren't rules, more vague guidelines it's harder to critique a piece such as this when it came from a time where space fantasy miniatures were a bold uncharted frontier
I love this model! Grampa Terminator FTW 😂 can't wait to paint mine! He's soaking in Awesome O now!
Yeah but for guys like him who're obviously at the top (I mean, he literally helped make Warhammer), I think it's a good habit to connect yourself more with fans and the little guys, it puts you down but it also can lifts others up knowing they don't *have* to be perfect or a professional. It's good to spread positivity and acceptance in a community largely about painting and modelling, everything will be completely unique anyway and it's about making it yours.
I agree.. I have some of these Terminator models and the detail still stands up to todays stuff. Sure the castings aren't good (the metal itself is a bit meh) but the models themselves are still decent.
Great to put a voice with a name- thanks for this, Guy!
Goob
Damn Goob you're always in the comment section of every wargamer's videos what a nice guy
Hey if it isn't one of the nicest people in the hobby :D
But is he a free guy?
40k is in that perfect middle ground where the franchise is old enough for aspects of it to be considered "classic", but young enough that most of its original creators are still alive and kicking. Star Wars is in a similar position.
That model looks incredible, and i'm really glad you were able to get a legendary interview with Bob Naismith!
Thanks so much! It was an absolute pleasure chatting with him, what a hero.
He paints the gauntlets in Mephiston Red and doesn't make the pun "I'll just paint Me-fist-in red." Please turn in your dad loicense at the nearest Ministry of Paternal Humor office.
ugh cant even read comments without being assaulted by great dad jokes lol
It's okay, he's got a Provisional Dad Loicense because he's a new father. He's allowed to miss a few dad jokes while he gets the hang of it.
Nothing wrong with dad jokes - it's a nice reminder of a time when people were allowed to have a sense of humour!
@@countzero1136 Dad jokes are never intended to be humorous, they are a noogie/arm punch/wet willie/indian burn in verbal form. If it's actually funny, it's not a Dad Joke, it's just a Painless Pun.
@@thebryceroy6155 I can see that you're really too young to appreciate proper humour :(
I originally got into Warhammer in the latter half of 1989. Even by that point the three original Terminator sculpts were weird and obscure things that only rarely made appearances in 'Eavy Metal. It's great seeing one in such detail and seeing it painted up so well. It's made even better by hearing Bob Naismith providing background and context on it and his time at Games Workshop too.
One of my friends had one when I was little, I always wanted one, but it wasn't until recently I realised what it was! Sometimes the internet is quite useful, haha
I actually picked up all three of the variants... From GW Mail-order, just before the archive service got closed down. It may have been as late as 1999. Also picked up an Ambull at around the same time. I can't remember what inspired me to do so.
They were probably a pretty good investment.
Just found a "ground trooper" from GW 1985 in my local stores bit box... Older than me! (Afraid to paint it yet)
@@cams.2083 I am considering ordering some old 2nd edition models and i am also not sure weather i can paint such relics.
@@lordhamster9452 if you're worried about "doing them justice" or something like that, don't be! They were always sold to be painted and gamed with, plus if at some point down the line you decide you don't like what you've done with them it's not hard to strip the paint off and paint them again. My only specific advice about painting metal models compared to plastic ones is don't skip the priming and varnishing stages, as paint is more prone to chipping and rubbing off metal models than plastic ones.
Bob's microphone quality makes it sound like he's replying to you from the past
Time moves strangely in the Warp.
Bonus points if it was intentional.
I thought the exact same thing!
I believe the style of having mottos like 'kil kil kil' on figures can be traced back to the artwork of Kevin O'Neal in 2000AD. He drew a lot of Nemesis the Warlock, which is clearly part of the inspiration for the Imperium of Man in 40K. Many of Nemesis' enemies (called the Terminators!) had pithy comments such as 'Slay!" and 'Repent!' on their armour, and this habit seems to have carried over into the artwork of Rogue Trader. And yes, I'm old enough to remember all this first hand.
Great video! The only thing that's missing is a comment from Luetin about how the terminator with the big pauldrons isn't actually Saturnine
I'm waiting, haha
And how it could/kinda was made into a salamanders pattern terme suit.
@@MidwinterMinis This whole video was a work with that goal - admit it.
This was great!
Guy, you are the perfect mix of legit wargamer fan, an excellent voice, great painting skills, and high production value. Im glad i started watching your work. It’s made a difference.
I bet Guy's made a few people think: 'What's the point of starting a channel? I'll never produce anything as good as that.'
So much applaudable stuff in MMworld, not least the concrete support for CALM and the speaking up for GW employees and their cheekily underpowered salaries. Go, G+P+2!
The new Space marine models are great. And the style of modern Warhammer looks great. But the old models have some charm to them.
SO much charm!
i agree with you, but some of the new marines models have that "tacti-cool" esthetic that i don't like, i think the first models that capture the right style were the bladeguards
@@anonyme253 Agreed. What made me fall in love with 40k in the first place is how clunky everything look. Well, not everything, the Eldar were suitably sleek, but Imperial tech not so much. Really conveyed the idea of a fallen empire having technology advanced enough to go toe to toe with xenos but ancient and roughly patched together by people who don't really understand how it works and are doing their best. Modern 40k is just simply too pretty. It isn't bad, but looks a lot like many other sci-fi franchises and original 40k did not.
@@dickbison And from the material side.... I don't understand this "new" trend at GW with resin and plastic.... When I was a kid and played 40k.... The metal models were the normal/good ones and the plastic ones were the shitty ones (not necessarly the sculpting quality) and no resin.... Nowadays everything plastic (which is still better than resin as i think but nowhere to metal). GW can't explain that the metal materials and molding/melting techniques aren't advanced as much that they can't keep up with the details and everything of the resin and plastic models manufacturing techniques. I wish they bring back the nearly full palette/catalog of metal miniatures (sadly i know they won't but...)
In the marines, I'm half and half. The new helmets look, mostly, bad compared to the old vox grilled ones. And my first marines were Primaris. The models I have that I love the look of more are the old school ones. That said, stuff like the Aggressors, the Reivers, and the various captains and other heroes of the Primaris line are so dope. Just need to switch out their helmets.
“Somewhere in the dark and nasty regions, where nobody goes, stands an ancient castle.
Deep within this dank and uninviting place lives Burk. Over worked servant of the thing upstairs.
But that's nothing compared to the horrors that lurk beneath the trapdoor. For there's always something down there, in the dark... waiting to come out.”
Been saving this for a quiet moment and it was 100% worth the wait. Lovely vid dude, brilliant work.
Good models are always appreciated regardless of age.
This video gave me nostalgia for a time that I wasn't even alive for.
I mean, this only came out when I was 3, so... same, pretty much!
@@MidwinterMinis The really weird part is that I've only gotten into Warhammer in the last year or so, primarily from your videos! So I really have no clue where this nostalgia came from 🤔
I love the chat with the designer! Please do more with other sculpters!
I can't say I've ever read or seen a vid speaking with Mr. Naismith. It was great to hear some of the history directly from the sculptor. GW doesn't do enough to credit their artists...so thank you for shining a spotlight on Bob's work! And thank you Mr. Naismith!
Now hear me out,
How cool would it be if this was the design GW went with for the inevitable Primaris Terminators. An old school look on a new plastic kit. I just think it would look amazing.
Absolutely! I think there's some design aspects on the Primaris range that are already borrowed from this model, so I think it would work well!
I was legit just thinking that myself
Pretty sure gravis armor is supposed to be primaris terminator armor
@@doctoradventure413 Correct, sadly
Maybe it could be explained as some early unit of terminators lost in time in the warp that came back a few centuries later or something
One of the thing that helps with Eldar vehicles holding up is that they're not reliant on fiddly detail, and the lore basis of their tech means you're not going to see complex worky gubbinz everywhere. Yeah, the crew could use an update, but for the actual vehicle... I dunno, maybe the sprue couldbe better arranged, but that seems to be about it.
Only thing I'd say is that they need to be updated to be compatible with the current heavy weapons that vehicles use now since the modern ones are a pain to make fit with them.
@@oliverp3545 Fair point.
Guy, it's videos like this one that make me glad I'm a patron. This could have easily been just a simple painting tutorial, but like with so many of your videos that little bit of extra context and personality make it just so much better. Keep 'em coming!
The retro colours just brought me back 30 years to when I was 9 years old, sitting painting my armies and honestly being so happy and proud of my blobby messes. Thank you mate.
So heres a story for you... I use to paint warhammer in the early 90s as a kid. Life eventually took over and i left the hobby behind. Fast forward 25 years I get a board game with miniatures for a gift (This war of mine). Decided to buy a starter set of vallejo paints to get the minis looking nice. Its now been 3 years since I have painted that game, and I have painted dozens of board games, hundreds of miniatures, and other game scenery but never bought back into Warhammer... until yesterday. I was in the newsagents and saw the new issue 1,2 &3 of Warhammer monthly subsciption, I picked up the first 2 issues. I am honestly amazed at the level of detail they can produce nowadays. Im stuck into the models & love them. Dont think I will buy back into Warhammer as a game but may pick up the occasional cool mini, but it's so cool to see the progression of the miniature creation process and how far we have come since the 90s :)
Nice paint job as always. But the video with the elements of your interview with Bob Naismith is simply brilliant! Thank you both, Bob and you Guy for doing this and giving us a little bit of insight into the history of this game from a non lore perspective.
I grew up with the 2E termies and I will always love them. (I played Space Wolves, my best mate was Dark Angels, we both had reasons to go hard on our Terminators.)
But this design is honestly brilliant.
I fully approve the decision to call the previously unnamed Terminator, Steve.
"Steve Pattern" sounds like a legit name haha.
I like how it's not named. But is clearly the direct ancestor of the indomitus pattern
@@Coproquim Ehhh not quite, it’s helmet? Yes definitely, but the one next to the “saturnine” terminator looks far more like the indomitus.
Knocked it out of the park guy, what a gorgeous paint job on a gorgeously nostalgic model! You've inspired me to start recording my terrain building endeavours to start my own channel. Keep it up mate
Thank you for being such a wonderful human being (and for getting Dana Howl to cameo time and time again, it's a delight)
Superb. These guys have a special place in my heart. I'm 46, started gaming at about age 12, and remember when all this stuff was first coming out. Amazing! Back in the days when I'd paint minis from Humbrol enamel tins etc. Dang, I still love my old GW marsh troll mini from back then. I relished painted bright yellow tips on all its boils!
The retro sculpt actually had plenty of beautiful armor panels that you made look absolutely badass with your careful edge highlights! It looks amazing!
Perfect thing to come back to after a shift- this is gonna be a fantastic dinner :) comments for the algorithm!
Amazing how a good paint job can make old models look amazing and even blend in with new models.
Bob Naismith himself. Transmitting from literally the centre of the warp as well. Amazing.
This video brought back so many happy memories of my early days in the hobby. Those early Rogue Trader days were so much fun. Probably why I'm still a minis gamer more than 3 decades on.
Thank you , Guy .
More of this please! Great to hear the sculptor/creator give his views. Very nice of Bob to do so.
I love the hell out of 1st and 2nd ed 40k minis. They're so fun to paint.
I started collecting and painting early this year, your how too tutorial was my step by step guide. I appreciate all these retro throw backs, since I'm a little late to the party 😅.
Great vid! Thanks so much Guy & Bob! Legends!
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. Thanks I needed a fix of retro fun.
It's neat seeing the design legacy. Take a look at the game book art that pops up now and then, then look at the FW Warhound. Really striking DNA in those heads.
That's a fantastic paintjob on the second Terminator from Warhammer 40K!
Total flashback - had completely forgotten the fact that I once owned every single one of those original Eldar models.
Great video, all about the time, late 80's, when I was really into Warhammer and spending all my pocket money on Citadel miniatures every week. Recognised every catalogue page and every model, like it was only yesterday I last saw them, when in reality it was over 30 damn years ago!
I *love* Bob's voice 🤩
Krang-anator! It'd be cool to see a slightly upscaled version of this guy which is more in line with the size of the current Terminators. All three of them, even. The "Saturnine" (Sorry, Luetin) is obviously already a super popular request for this, but they all have their own charm. I want to be able to run a 10 man squad with all different armour styles!
I dunno why but as I'm getting back into 40k these days, I am more and more gravitating towards the old school stuff, and it's great to watch you enjoy it as well.
Forever War and Starship Troopers are just absolutely amazing books and are in almost every single "top Sci fi" book list (top 10, 20, 50, etc)
I would _absolutely love_ to see a modern take on this design. It looks very unique compared to what we normally see in Terminators.
Yeah, it looks pretty unique
@@geronimo8159 it's different to the usual terminators, yes. Unique is a binary though, it's a contradiction to qualify it with 'very' or 'pretty'. Why yes I am invited to all the parties.
I think this is my favourite terminator design because it looks like a real evolution of standard space marine armor.
I know that the new lore for Terminators is that they are repurposed industrial equipment, but this design just. I love it.
Every time I see a black and white photo of a black washed pewter mini I get the biggest nostalgia. I have the actual minis , I paint them now, but there is something about those photos that gets me.
Oh HELL yeah
From your personal music, personal interview with Bob, and your personal close up painting tutorial, there is just so much personality and individualism in your videos.
Guy - amazing video. So proud of you supporting such a wonderful cause.
Perfect hobby video: the craft, nostalgia and interview, plus linking with good causes and relevant sponsors. Bravo. 👍
Yay more retro stuff! That was nice getting to hear from the creator of the sculpt from back then! And thanks for picking a not well-known charity! Also, the model looks great!
Oh great, an ancient terminator model, and beautifully painted as well. And with the comment of the designer as well. And two newborn hoo-man.
All the best for the twins, Penny, and you. Chizz!
LOVED the chat with Mr. Naismith. That was absolute class Guy. Great work mate :)
When i got into 40k buying every single generation of terminator models was one of the first projects i had. Super fun to see some of these old guys again, I have this model in the blister pack still
Honestly I love this version of the Terminator! If anyone knows of a 3rd party (3D print or regular plastic) version that'd be great!
honestly i badly want to have an paint this sculpt. it looks fantastic
Really enjoyed this video on so many levels. I love hearing the old designers talking about their time working at GW. I thoroughly enjoyed your painting of the classic mini. And the fact this video will contribute to a worthwhile cause for years to come is great. My one annoyance is that in rushing to type this comment I knocked over my bottle of Asurmen Blue wash... worth it.
Another corking vid Guy, well done. Supporting Calm is brilliant and as the community we can spread the message far and wide.
man i feel like a criminal, just started looking at these vid's, a friend and i found a box full of our old warhammer lead models from the 90's .... we melted them down for some fishing weights
HERETICS!!
*BROTHA HOW COULD YOU!?*
Honestly if it makes ya feel any better, one was painted and didn't seem to melt, so being an idiot I poked it with my finger...it was like a heroic last stand lol, melted over my finger tip
@@TheAceomac I'm crying tears of sadness Brotha
I see this a year later. I just started getting back into 40K. Don’t know if I’ll start collecting again soon. But this is amazing seeing the OG stuff. I love to paint, and warhammer was an amazing hobby to pickup, even though it’s a bit pricey. This paint job looks fricken great! 😃
That smoothing out of the edge highlights is what we called feathering. (I'm old, I picked up my brushes back in 1987...)
Taken to the extreme ( it was a technique I personally loved) you could blend up to 9 or 10 very thin, and subtle, layers. On the old Elder range it worked beautifully.
I love with the retro models now and this video is just a dive into the world of art. Great job!
The Forever War is one of those books that claims to be a classic in the blurb but I've never met anyone else who's read it. I'm glad you enjoyed it Guy
I feel that might be because of the sequels? They are... eh, rather rough to get through, and could retroactively sour people on the entire series. The Forever War is a bona fide classic, though.
every time I watch these Vods and I catch the references I feel SOOOOOOOOOO Old
Ive sat down and spoken with Bob Olley having long collected squats during their hiatus. Old school staff were so amazing and loved the fans
This little guy looks so amazing. Good job!
Guy / Penny- Blinded by Daylight, amazing channel that won't disappoint. Thank you both for being amazing!
Man, DO I LOVE retro painting.
Very cool seeing old minis come to life.
Said it before, I'll say it again. I'm not deaf, but I LOVE that you fire in CCs. Love you as always my mans.
Brilliant work, both the model and charity support.
I really love that terminator design. Honestly feels like something out of fallout.
I'm shocked at how good that mithril silver paint is! Super shiny, looks way better than any current citadel silver paints.
Thank you for supporting calm
Great job on the skull decal. I'm honestly impressed.
I love this kind of videos on retrohammer and very cool of you having tracked down Bob and thank you to him for giving a short interview. The early years are fascinating. He does some cool sculpts still!
I love how even the most recent games workshop models pay homage to the early sculpts. The buckle on the primaris marines is almost identical to the buckle on that terminator.
I love seeing how things evolved over time. Great stuff.
I think this is one of the best Warhammer Videos I have ever seen!
this model is awesome, and its very obvious Bob had a hand in the original metal dreadnoughts too!
bob has exaclty the accent you imagine a GW mini designer from 80s would have
adding this to my list of daily videos. thanks for organising this Guy.
Bob Naismith is the Best GW sculptor. He was the first and his vision gave us a lot of cool warhammer 40k stuff. Before Jes Goodwin came.
I love the fact that the armour covers the back
It always awesome to see the painting process go from this is blue to this is a mode that looks awesome
Love the mini, love the paint job, really love the audiobook, and especially appreciate the cause of this vid. Excellent job altogether.
Absolute banger of a video. This man literally cannot miss.
The old models are so pretty!
There’s something so charming and magical about them. They radiate history, tell a story and posses a special vintage vibe.
I also love that you asked the author, didn’t expect that.
I personally consider getting some vintage eldar models, but i am nit sure weather i can make them justice. But there’s only way to find out.
Oh hell yeah I remember you teasing this video. So excited for this.
the history I would of never known without this video ❤❤
Great model and paint job. Thank you!
Comments for the engagement god! Great video Guy, super cool to hear Bob Naismith's input and to watch you paint!
I love this old terminator design it’s so fun and unique which really makes me appreciate it so much more. I love death company so the old art compares with the new ones is so fun to see. Black and red with some dark gunmetal as well as some blood splatter is really my niche also mostly faces to show a grimdark black rage marines. Chaplain as well as sanguinary guard are the only helmets that I use or really enjoy for my successor chapter.
Fantastic, Guy! I love the stepup base and magnets idea.
This is awesome on so many different levels. Seriously, being reminded, that there are good people out there, can mean the world at the right moment.
What a wonderful way to support a great charity. Nice work, Guy!
Great video Guy. Well done for supporting CALM too 👍👍
That's really awesome. I'm very happy this is going toward a good cause.