Thank you for the support man - I really have SO MANY ideas for melee stuff, unfortunately such POBS require at least 14-17 hours to create so i cant do more Haha.
The new gem Vengeful Cry fits really well in this build, you can trigger the savage hit condition with Echoes of Creation and with enough warcry buff effect you can get anywhere from 40 to 50 maximum rage
sadly not feasible, i did the math and you need to seriously gut your phys negation for this to be possible, you can start it if you trigger it before you get charges and such but no chance while mapping. Just use doedres elexir
@@samdeval You take 20% for each warcry exerting the attack, so with 6 thats 120% of your hp, with 0 pdr you would die. I've been doing some testing and it seems possible, remember that the 90% you see in the pob its not really 90% damage reduction, armour scales poorly the bigger the hit and with 6k hp that 120% would be a 7,2k damage hit.
Any advice for scaling into t17s and above? I've got the hat and almost the defences in the pob but I'm not sure where to go after 91 besides upgrading my axe. Again, thanks for posting this guide
Thats a little harder question, we will have an endgame version for the build later on I think tho. Upgrade your Axe, add Light of Meaning for Phys or Chaos Res, add cluster jewels. Look into capping suppression and getting Enlighten 4 + Charisma on Amulet to get Determination IN as well. Also can ask me about that on streams - www.twitch.tv/ronarray Cheers!
@ronarray thanks dude, much appreciated!! Got my clusters yesterdat and will aim for a new axe. The only thing I'm really struggling with is the mana cost, I'm rolling with an enduring mana flask instead of lions roar
Thank you for this, haven't played slams since 3.13 so I'm looking forward to it. Will you make updates to PoB after league launch when we know more about how things are performing?
You have misunderstood the overexertion gem. It only grants a buff for each warcry EXERTING the attack, so you will have 5 not 6 warcries giving the buff, Enduring cry does not exert attacks. Sorry if this has been pointed already. Or if i am misunderstanding something..
Thanks for the great build and breakdown. I made a melee build and leveled using ground slam of earthbreaking. I would like to know what you think of volcanic fissure of snaking? It seems to be good. But i have yet to find a good build around it. Would love if you could check it out or even leave a word.
awesome guide man, gonna try gauntlet with it, really complete guide! I was thinking on switching to earthshatter after campaign, i guess it does better than sunder right for mapping, i wonder how it is for st, between jugger and chieftain, which one it is more suitable for hc? i really enjoy infinite power warcries and easier to gear chieftain
Hey man, it seems that for Gauntlet Jugg could be a good option due to innate tankiness early on. Chieftain is still nice tho if you are careful. Idea with earthshatter is good if you like the skill - swap. Good luck in the race and hit me on twitch www.twitch.tv/ronarray if you will need help! Cheers!
Hey, thanks for a great guide! A small noob question: why do we need to find accuracy in case we took Resolute technique? Pretty much all of your lvl75 items have it.
Build is dealing ridiculous damage for me but feeling very rippy at T1-5 maps along with major mana issues unless I keep some of the leech mana nodes with cost reduction. Is this solved by gear or is this a skill tree issue you think? I have slitherpinch and a goldrim from levelling (was a little lucky).
I followed this guide until yellow maps and started to feel pretty squishy. I'd recommend getting a divine vessel and a coral ruins map asap to get 100% freeze immunity from Brine King. You'll also want to throw on a Ruby Flask and a Heavy Belt of the Deceiver for 60% extra crit reduction. Those three things helped quite a bit and I'm hoping it gets me by until I get currency and can swap to jug
I would love to play tectonic slam build but its rly hard to find anyone who has good pob or guide for it. Ofc im going for chieftain. Do you have any recommended ppl or tips how to approach that kind of slam build?
new to the game, this was my first build i got far. build good so far but where I do go with my atlas passive tree? idk if im supposed to follow a specific one f or this build
Well, this is looks like ZDPS build for me,. have now unique helmet 6link in body armour and 5 link for warcrys, almost 900 DPS two-hand axe and its stiill pain with DPS on bosses....
That's a very strange situation - are you using Sunder? You can try to use Earthshatter or even swap to Berserk if you need more DPS and the rest of the stuff is fine. Also make sure your WarCrys are all with quality UP and you have enough mana to overuse them.
@@ronarray btw update, removed fortify, now have , Ruthless, Awakened Melee Phys, Awakened brutality, Overexertion, Pulverize. And damage became pretty fine. But yes I think about each warcry quality this is CD recovery this is yes. Seeking also how to do more damage without 1100 PDPS axe which costs a lot. Ryslatha belt probably....
Since it's slammer, what do you think about combo slamms with new retaliation skill crushing fist so using staff as our weapon but still use one of many slam skills and war crys and if dosen't work reroll to axe/slam/war cry. I think like it might be nice addition for slayer/chieftain thoughts?
Hello, i was checking the POB and noticed that we are only running 1 aura. Wouldnt it be better to drop inspiration from CWDT and add Eternal blessing to pride? Drop all the mana regen nodes and play Blood magic for 1 point?
If we get Eternal blessing we will be unable to autoexert War Cries since they reserve mana and Eternal Blessing will OFF all mana reservation. Cheers!
@@ronarray your PoB guide on lvl 91+ lists a diamond flask, so i was confused when I reached it :) Another question, how much armour is good for the echoes of creation, I pretty much suicide unless I'm careful and I have 10k armour and 5k life.
Is there a reason not to have a 6 link weapon? I couldn’t find a reason. If no real good support gem, why not have an extra attack gem in it, since they use same gems.
@@ronarray sure you can get more attack speed but I meant the base 0.7 as multiplier on the gems. It's a very specific feel especially early game when your character swings the weapon for a week straight. I know I hated that so much I haven't touched any slams since 3.11
A huge part of the reason why I am not playing slams. It doesn't help that axes and maces have kinda bad base attack speed. The other reason is warcries and exertion... It's going to feel so bad without auto exert, and exert doesn't work with multistrike.
I played sunder chieftan in ToTa and it was really fun but only until i reach t16 is when i reroll because of how it scale back then wasn't enough on juiced map
If you're referring to the .7x on first swing 1.3x on second, that's apparently been removed this patch so melee skills will all swing like boneshatter has been @@TwujStary69420
So much talk about overexert and the damage form it...pretending you'll actually have it for 100% uptime is wild tho. Either way Slayer seems just better than chieftain. You don't have the 100% power on warcries, but you have more damage, overleech, cull, area and more accuracy
Slayer is a strong option for sure, Chieftain can provide Max res / 7 Link / Infinite war cry power which is decent. Also for any build with War Cry overexert will have close to 100% uptime.
Не перестаю удивляться, как у некоторых получается со стартом через броню и хп (а не физ урон) комфортно убивать Брутуса до топора 9лвл без рецепта на урон. Если они действительно пробовали то, о чём говорят...
Now guys it is SLAMMING TIME! I'm sure that Sunder Chieftain is going to be a very decent starter. Thank you ALL for watching and supporting.
This is the best guide! I've been looking everywhere for some well explained depth behind melee and this was it Thank you!!
Thank you for the nice words man - doing my best! Stay tuned for more great stuff
Appreciate you pumping out the builds for us. The added ground slam/earthshatter/earthquake swap is also heavily appreciated. Subscribed.
Thank you for the support man - I really have SO MANY ideas for melee stuff, unfortunately such POBS require at least 14-17 hours to create so i cant do more Haha.
Been waiting for the chieftain slam build for so long. We are eating good with this one!
Thank you for watching man - it is SLAMMING TIME!
Your guides have become a master degree quality wise. Thank you again sir, well made
Thank you very much for the nice words, trying my best to be as informative as I can and thank you for support!
earthshatter is one of my favorite skills in the game , will def play it this league . Thx for posting this awesomely detailed build
Thank you for the nice words - hit me on twitch if you will need help!
Thank you ! This is the exact build I wanted to play at league start.
Thank you for watching man - stay tuned for more great content! And good luck at league start!
Thanks for the guide.
Will use your PoB and tweak it a bit as I wanna play Volcanic Fissure of Snaking :)
Make sure to drop all phys and take all the fire!
could you please share your pob ? I'm also interested in fire slam
Nice guide mate, very good explanation and progression.
Thank you very much man - trying my best to keep them coming as detailed as it is possible.
thanks for your work, very good step by step pob
Thank you for the nice words man!
The new gem Vengeful Cry fits really well in this build, you can trigger the savage hit condition with Echoes of Creation and with enough warcry buff effect you can get anywhere from 40 to 50 maximum rage
I honestly need to test if Echoes of Creation can do enough damage to trigger savage hit before recommending it. But the tech is great for sure!
You can only trigger savage hit if you have basically 0 pdr. This build has 90%
sadly not feasible, i did the math and you need to seriously gut your phys negation for this to be possible, you can start it if you trigger it before you get charges and such but no chance while mapping. Just use doedres elexir
@@samdeval You take 20% for each warcry exerting the attack, so with 6 thats 120% of your hp, with 0 pdr you would die. I've been doing some testing and it seems possible, remember that the 90% you see in the pob its not really 90% damage reduction, armour scales poorly the bigger the hit and with 6k hp that 120% would be a 7,2k damage hit.
@@powhit1176 seif hit amount eactly enough but im not sure self hit will it proc ?
Great build, I'm clearing t16s and loving it
Glad that you like it! Stay tuned for endgame version too!
Any advice for scaling into t17s and above? I've got the hat and almost the defences in the pob but I'm not sure where to go after 91 besides upgrading my axe. Again, thanks for posting this guide
Thats a little harder question, we will have an endgame version for the build later on I think tho. Upgrade your Axe, add Light of Meaning for Phys or Chaos Res, add cluster jewels. Look into capping suppression and getting Enlighten 4 + Charisma on Amulet to get Determination IN as well. Also can ask me about that on streams - www.twitch.tv/ronarray Cheers!
@ronarray thanks dude, much appreciated!! Got my clusters yesterdat and will aim for a new axe. The only thing I'm really struggling with is the mana cost, I'm rolling with an enduring mana flask instead of lions roar
@@bigaussiedave5075 Hit me on twitch www.twitch.tv/ronarray in regards of mana cost - Will give you some tips about it!
Another excellent guide, thank you.
Thank you for watching man!
Can't wait for this league!
So do I! So many great build ideas
A lot of people sleeping on ancestral cry. It's super easy to get 90 max res on any build that goes hard into Warcry effect
The only reason why it is not in the build is the piano requirements. Otherwise I would add it - Ancestral is great!
Thank you for this, haven't played slams since 3.13 so I'm looking forward to it. Will you make updates to PoB after league launch when we know more about how things are performing?
yeah, i will work on the endgame version as well if it will scale good. Cheers!
You have misunderstood the overexertion gem. It only grants a buff for each warcry EXERTING the attack, so you will have 5 not 6 warcries giving the buff, Enduring cry does not exert attacks. Sorry if this has been pointed already. Or if i am misunderstanding something..
You re right, it would be 5 war cries with enduring, changed that part.
@@ronarray that is true, but should mention it somewhere since it is a detailed and nice guide in all other aspects :)
@@Rurix48 I already changed the numbers to 5 for it to be less confusing, thank you for pointing it out!
Thanks for the great build and breakdown. I made a melee build and leveled using ground slam of earthbreaking. I would like to know what you think of volcanic fissure of snaking? It seems to be good. But i have yet to find a good build around it. Would love if you could check it out or even leave a word.
Thank you for watching - Volcanic is great, I would probably look into doing a dedicated build with it later.
awesome guide man, gonna try gauntlet with it, really complete guide! I was thinking on switching to earthshatter after campaign, i guess it does better than sunder right for mapping, i wonder how it is for st, between jugger and chieftain, which one it is more suitable for hc? i really enjoy infinite power warcries and easier to gear chieftain
Hey man, it seems that for Gauntlet Jugg could be a good option due to innate tankiness early on. Chieftain is still nice tho if you are careful. Idea with earthshatter is good if you like the skill - swap. Good luck in the race and hit me on twitch www.twitch.tv/ronarray if you will need help! Cheers!
@@ronarray thank you man, good luck with the race too, will follow for sure!!
Great looking POB. I’m a bit of a noob and I can’t watch the video due to being at work, but could you explain how we’re generating frenzy charges?
Hey there, thank you very much - Mob Mentality in the Cluster jewel is going to provide charges when we are War Crying.
Hey, thanks for a great guide! A small noob question: why do we need to find accuracy in case we took Resolute technique? Pretty much all of your lvl75 items have it.
Thank you for the nice words - some accuracy just there as a random stat - we don't really need it and you can ignore it.
Nice build, thank you. I think your custom config about overexertion have some wrong. Because slam can be exerted by only 5 warcry.
Starting chief, consecrated path and RF 🥳
@@TheGabrielbowater reroll day 1
You can't scale ConcP & RF at the same time. Definently not at leaguestart
@@simhanssens7331 and both are clunky shit tbh
@@gasres2778 What are you on about... Can't get smoother than RF...
@@simhanssens7331 rares die from aging 😂 smooth enough
Hi man, really appreciate guide! Anyway, do you think this build is good also for bosses?
Thank you for the support too! I think it will work alright for bossing if you scale it into endgame.
Thx for the build and the inspiration! Do you also have a "tectonic slam" option or for the fire variants like consecrated path and volcanic fissure?
Not really, I do not recommend pure fire options as a league starters to be honest.
@@ronarray thank you! 🙂
Amazing guides. Love your content. But there is no way I'm going with Sunder the whole campaign... Need something flashier... lol
Thank you man - you can pick EQ or Earthshatter than, could be great!
amazing guide and PoB! thanks for the work and effort - im a lazy bitch and wanted to play slam chieftain - now i dont have to do all the work myself
Thank you very much man! Trying my best
Great build Just trying New things Just curious on how it Will peform in HC SSF
Will need to be very careful on HC and build more around determination.
@@ronarray determination + eternal blessing for no big dmg on mana reserve? Dont know if its worth a gem slot
Only determination remove a big chunk of mana reserve
@@NotMellin For HC it is worth it for sure.
@@NotMellinso does Pride. Replace Pride with Determination
Build is dealing ridiculous damage for me but feeling very rippy at T1-5 maps along with major mana issues unless I keep some of the leech mana nodes with cost reduction. Is this solved by gear or is this a skill tree issue you think? I have slitherpinch and a goldrim from levelling (was a little lucky).
Mostly solved by gear - mana solved by -7 on rings / amultet - tankiness by 90% resistances alter on.
@@ronarray what do you do for ailments? I am running purity of elements because I hate freeze :')
I followed this guide until yellow maps and started to feel pretty squishy. I'd recommend getting a divine vessel and a coral ruins map asap to get 100% freeze immunity from Brine King. You'll also want to throw on a Ruby Flask and a Heavy Belt of the Deceiver for 60% extra crit reduction. Those three things helped quite a bit and I'm hoping it gets me by until I get currency and can swap to jug
You need to get Brine king there.
@@andrewwilliams3207 thanks for the heads up, I completely spaced the pantheon stuff.
I would love to play tectonic slam build but its rly hard to find anyone who has good pob or guide for it. Ofc im going for chieftain. Do you have any recommended ppl or tips how to approach that kind of slam build?
Dropping PHYS nodes and taking fire ones to the left would be your way.
@@ronarray thanks I love your guide on that kind of playstyle :) I will tune in for more to come for sure!
Take zerker and sione via exarch/eater jewels and that’s it
I mention it in the video as an option tbh - Zerker is good too.
new to the game, this was my first build i got far. build good so far but where I do go with my atlas passive tree? idk if im supposed to follow a specific one f or this build
You can follow any basic tree that you want - look int othis video for good early progression example. ua-cam.com/video/ImMTSP3ATeU/v-deo.html
@@ronarray thank you so much! this build has been fun for a brand new player
Any thoughts about doing this build, except with Volcanic Fissure of Snaking? I've wanted to try out that skill for a while now.
Wil lbe weaker on the League start since PHYS is too strong. But drop Pride and get Anger + Fire nodes instead of Phys.
I think you made a little calculation error with Overexertion. You have 6 warcries, but Enduring Cry does not exert attacks as far as I know.
Yeah, fixed the numbers already, it should be 5 for 100% of more dmg.
Well, this is looks like ZDPS build for me,. have now unique helmet 6link in body armour and 5 link for warcrys, almost 900 DPS two-hand axe and its stiill pain with DPS on bosses....
That's a very strange situation - are you using Sunder? You can try to use Earthshatter or even swap to Berserk if you need more DPS and the rest of the stuff is fine. Also make sure your WarCrys are all with quality UP and you have enough mana to overuse them.
@@ronarray btw update, removed fortify, now have , Ruthless, Awakened Melee Phys, Awakened brutality, Overexertion, Pulverize. And damage became pretty fine.
But yes I think about each warcry quality this is CD recovery this is yes.
Seeking also how to do more damage without 1100 PDPS axe which costs a lot.
Ryslatha belt probably....
I will work on the endgame build for slams later on I think, so stay tuned!
Hey i got a question for this build, which pantheons should i take?
Brine king + Garuthkan.
Since it's slammer, what do you think about combo slamms with new retaliation skill crushing fist so using staff as our weapon but still use one of many slam skills and war crys and if dosen't work reroll to axe/slam/war cry. I think like it might be nice addition for slayer/chieftain thoughts?
Hi :) I've decided to go slams this league. What's your take on slayer ascendancy? Ziz just posted up colab video with cArn. Cheers !
Slayer slams is solid for sure, just another decent option.
U gotta play earthshatter berserker this league
I would prefer Sunder Chieftain tbh, maybe swap to Berserker later.
Hello, i was checking the POB and noticed that we are only running 1 aura. Wouldnt it be better to drop inspiration from CWDT and add Eternal blessing to pride? Drop all the mana regen nodes and play Blood magic for 1 point?
If we get Eternal blessing we will be unable to autoexert War Cries since they reserve mana and Eternal Blessing will OFF all mana reservation. Cheers!
Hello! In POB what about the swap to Sunder at lvl 14 and than swap Cleave at lvl 31 and swap bck to Sunder at lvl45 or stay with Sunder? Ty!
It is staying with sunder all the time, I think I got cleave there by mistake, sorry for it.
Ty this fantastic build and the quick answer! ;)
Thank you for watching man!
@@ronarray Which Atlas strategy do u advise for this build? Ty!
potent
Slamming!
What's your opinion on Vocanic Fissure of Snaking? I think it can easily shotgun with sizmic cry.
Interesting potential but more of an endgame thing since Fire harder to stack.
are we switching ascendancy? I was a bit confused by the POB
No, we are not - I think I fixed it in the updated Pob (berserker version leaked xD)
As a noob, can someone elaborate on Resolute Tecchnique and diamond flask? Doesn't RT cancel the effect of the diamond flask?
Yeah you are 100% right and it cancels it, there shouldn't be a diamond flask - which setup has it?
@@ronarray your PoB guide on lvl 91+ lists a diamond flask, so i was confused when I reached it :) Another question, how much armour is good for the echoes of creation, I pretty much suicide unless I'm careful and I have 10k armour and 5k life.
10k Armor is pretty low, you might need to fit in Determination for it to work (Add Enlighten + Charisma on Amulet).
@@ronarray Thanks for the tips, I'd forgotten about Determination!
Hit me on Twitch if you will have more questions - www.twitch.tv/ronarray and thank you for watching!
Can't decide between going chieftain or slayer slam, what's the main difference between those two for slams?
More convenience and easier Resistance cap for Chieftain - better DPS for Slayer. Cheers!
Is there a reason not to have a 6 link weapon? I couldn’t find a reason. If no real good support gem, why not have an extra attack gem in it, since they use same gems.
Please read my comment in the Skill section - l.ast gem is Overextertion, we just don't have working one in POB,
I'm a little confused. Doesn't warcry gems share cooldowns?
Rallying cry why? It doesnt
affect the caster?
It still exerts attacks and we need it for Overextertion.
As I see overexertion doesn't provide damage to ailments. So will it be useless in EQ bleed?
harder to predict now, I haven't worked on Bleed EQ tbh.
How are you planning on getting +1 maximum fire resistance on crimson jewels?
New affixes added, was mentioned in 3.25 reveal video
They added such stat to the jewels as normal roll - it will be pretty accessible.
Tried this for my first ever build, sadly is just too slow to be useful.
It is just a starter - you need to repick or upgrade it after getting stones.
@@ronarray I meant first ever build*
Hey is there a specific loot filter for this or are Neversinks standard ones fine?
Neversink should work just fine!
@ great thank you!
Do i kill all bandits. I dont have a pc. I watch guides through youtube
You need to help Alira
I wonder how many people are going to reroll day 1 once they find out they really dislike how slams feel to play with their 0.7 attack speed
But I have a better attack speed in the build - it can be rised to 0.4s (2.5 attacks per second) just fine
@@ronarray sure you can get more attack speed but I meant the base 0.7 as multiplier on the gems. It's a very specific feel especially early game when your character swings the weapon for a week straight. I know I hated that so much I haven't touched any slams since 3.11
A huge part of the reason why I am not playing slams. It doesn't help that axes and maces have kinda bad base attack speed.
The other reason is warcries and exertion... It's going to feel so bad without auto exert, and exert doesn't work with multistrike.
I played sunder chieftan in ToTa and it was really fun but only until i reach t16 is when i reroll because of how it scale back then wasn't enough on juiced map
If you're referring to the .7x on first swing 1.3x on second, that's apparently been removed this patch so melee skills will all swing like boneshatter has been @@TwujStary69420
witch pantheons? i dont know where to check the best ones and i dont see them in the video or pob
Brine King + Garutkhan
@@ronarray thanks for answer and thanks a lot for the build and the explanation. I love your videos.
Thank you for watching!
does the exert on rallying cry works on the user? in wiki "exert your attack granting them more damage"
No buff is not working - only exerting itself.
Sunder better than ES?
For early levels 100% yes, at the endgame both are solid and ES can be better in some cases.
@@ronarray ok going to go sunder then
So much talk about overexert and the damage form it...pretending you'll actually have it for 100% uptime is wild tho. Either way Slayer seems just better than chieftain. You don't have the 100% power on warcries, but you have more damage, overleech, cull, area and more accuracy
Slayer is a strong option for sure, Chieftain can provide Max res / 7 Link / Infinite war cry power which is decent.
Also for any build with War Cry overexert will have close to 100% uptime.
Не перестаю удивляться, как у некоторых получается со стартом через броню и хп (а не физ урон) комфортно убивать Брутуса до топора 9лвл без рецепта на урон. Если они действительно пробовали то, о чём говорят...
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