Hobby Cheating 206 - How to Make Display Boards
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2019
- In this in-depth Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through my thoughts on display boards. I may not love them, but darn it, if I am going to do them, we are going to go all the way. I take you through planning, construction and finishing and the tools that will help you along the way. Hope you enjoy!
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Hi Vince, just so you know, MDF is a wood product (Medium-Density Fiberboard), the sort of thing cheap furniture or work bench tops are made from. The foam you're using is actually XPS (Extruded Polystyrene) foam.
Yep, someone gave me the details in another comment, good to know I was just confused and they don't have the same name. :)
I appreciate how you talk about your thinking, and bringing some science to help achieve realism.
What this really needs is an update with a flyby of the board in action. Learning and watching the board being created without seeing it on display is anticlimactic
Totally fair point, I should have thought about that. Something I will make sure to think about going forward.
Been planning my first display board for the past few weeks. This video came at the perfect time. Thanks for another awesome video.
Happy to help as always. :)
I stuck threw the whole video, well worth it. It had tips and tricks from across the board. PS your battle damage class at nova was super fun. Thanks for taking the time to look over my blue dreadnought.
Thank you and happy to help as always. :)
A tip for the patch and paint! A little bit of water into the bucket, and mix it around with the trowel a bit and it’ll come out way easier, and spread way better.
That's an awesome tip, I will do just that next time. :)
amazing display, very good use of the GW garden of morr and cobblestone roller. This is the video i needed to get me motivated for armies on parade.
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
Them cobblestones are rediulous... The brown ones mixed into the blue/grey ones look really good. I love the whole board, honestly its amazing!
I would like to see more terrain videos, maybe on individual stuff like how to paint a wall, or how to paint a house. I know theres a lot already online but would be nice to see your take on it.
I like how you just use a knife and explain ways to do stuff without always needing some special tools and that.
Thanks for sharing 😊👍
So many of my basing videos cover this sort of thing (like my Urban Ruins basing video), but I will add more to the list.
Loved it! Those cobblestones are awesome!!!
Thank you, they were a heck of an effort for sure. :)
Glorious work!
Thank you, very much appreciated.
Great advice Vince... I'm starting my process for CanCon, so it's great timing.
Awesome, can't wait to see what you come up with.
This was great, I'm planning a display board for my sylvaneth, perfect timing
Awesome, happy to help as always. :)
Came to watch Vince doing stuff, stayed to watch his gorgeous retrievers in the background :)
They do make a lot of guest appearances here as I had to film this over a long time and they are walking around in my office most days.
You painted each of those cobblestones individually? Wow! Great video and really useful tip to hit grass tufts with a drop of Agrax. That’s been bothering me for years ‘something’s not quite right’. Cool, thanks Vince.
Yes I did, each one was blended and glazed and touched multiple times, which was a near maddening experience. :)
Those cobbled streets look amazing but I think I might go insane trying to paint so many.
I nearly lost my mind, I am not going to lie.
I’m surprised by this video you’ve always been adamantly against display boards in the past. Well done 👍🏼
I am still against them, but they are a necessary evil.
This was fantastic! Your board is glorious dude:)
I am 50/50 on it. ;)
@@VinceVenturella I thought it was rad. Maybe the resin pour has tainted your feelings about it. It's well planned out and expertly executed!
Great vid as usual,on the protecting foam from rattle cans, a coat of PVA glue does the job and it's cheap😉. You can make a cheap static grass applicator with a metal sieve and a large capacity battery like those ones they sell for torches with the two doing contacts, just connect the sieve to one contact and run a wire with a probe to the other and job done it's not pretty but it's fine for small amounts like you need😀
Nice! Good tips for sure. :)
@@VinceVenturella There are a good number of DIY build videos on youtube, of varying quality; but it's worth knowing that, if you're basing your cost assessment on the Noch model, there are others on the market - the Peco model is about 1/3 the price and there are some Chinese models out there closing on 10% (depending on the deals you're able to get - but a quick Google search on UK prices shows the Noch at £140+ and a Chinese model on eBay at £16...)
This was pimp. I'm going to be tackling my own board, come another year from now.
Thank you, glad it's helpful.
@@VinceVenturella Although, the burning question in my mind is: How long did it take you to paint all of those cobblestones?
god dang dude, thats awesome!
Thank you, happy to help as always.
Great stuff!
The tuffs/flowers, the method here with the shades and drybrushing on them to pop more. Is that something you do on your models bases aswell?
Yep, it's something I do on all my miniature bases, in general, you want to avoid some element of the miniature/base being unpainted.
Great video
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
yes, it's a video thats not very new, but for the grass, just use a squeezer bottle, this one u use for cleaning the airbrush, just remove the straw. if the bottle is the right material, it will load up the grass static. just put a finger on the straw hole, shake it well (load it up) and then turn it up side down, and press the grass through the hole. Every plastik bottle schould do this, and if not, use a fur, and rub the bottle with it... like a balloon and hair, you know the effect. cheap and easy, and please excuse my english, I'm just a german guy with school englisch.
No issue and good tip.
Luke Towan himself would be proud of this board, simply amazing!
Thank you, I am happy with it.
This was a great video. Really helps me grasp how to my my first display board. But I have questions, what filament did you use the 3d print the buildings and what did you do to get them painted? It feels like you didn't really go into detail on how the buildings were prepped and painted. As for filament, I'd like to know because I know PLA is at risk of melting in a hot car, so I don't want to spend alot of time and money on something thats going to melt to a puddle in the summer heat.
I couldn't tell you, they were printed for me by a friend (crazyhorse on twitter, often in the live shows). To get them painted, nothing different than most other terrain. :)
If you have a Daiso (Japanese 1.50 store that has a bunch of locations here in the US) they have every now and then a cheap but works hot wire foam cutter. I think it might still be on their website but not sure if you can order it from that site as well - but worth looking into though
I don't think we have those around here, but I will look it up.
@@VinceVenturella it looks like they sipped but hey here’s one of the two I have buried here somewhere
dl.wish.com/JJgdL
This remarkably like the tank dios I did as a teenager. Minus any skill on my part, lol
Yep, big bases, display boards and dioramas all share a lot of the same craft project elements. :)
I’ve seen you use the little brick before in basing videos. Where are they from and what scale/ size would you recommend.
Pegasus Hobbies, you can actually use almost any scale, as bricks come in so many sizes. I like the smaller ones, but you get tons of them in a bag for cheap.
About to jump into something like this and I will be working mostly from your video here. Had a quick question - I'd heard that sometimes enamel spray paints attack foam? Is this not the case with the pink foam, or did you just cover everything really well with spackle, sand, and rocks? Thanks much for all your work!
Aerosol sprays will melt the pink foam. In this case, I covered everything with enough glue and dirt and such that it didn't get negatively effected.
28:11 it looks jawdropping, damn shame it takes a jawdropping amount of effort
You're not wrong.
Great video as always. My only question is at what point did you change up and decide to not use the one piece of terrain? What drove that decision?
It was too big for the area and I needed to leave room for Tom's stupid army at Holy Havoc in the graveyard. :)
@@VinceVenturella I figured as much. I more meant more along explaining to everyone how you came to the decision and made the adjustment and moved on.
I may have missed this but what exactly are those pink foam sheets and where do you get them
MDF, it's basically insulation, you can buy it from the hardware store in those pre-cut 2x2 squares.
Boy, was it a long one. Still, watched it through.
I'm usually a lurker, not much into commenting, so let me catch the moment. Vince, your videos are just like a pinnacle of hobby videos for me. I'm involved in local Khan Academy team, doing physics and math, and I get most of the inspiration from your particular manner of sharing your skills.
That's wonderful and I am glad it was helpful and always happy to help. :)
They sell bags of super fine grit sand at hobby lobby for making sand art for a few bucks, way cheaper than citadel!
This is what I use for dirt on my bases since its so fine, somewhere between finely granulated sugar and flour. Awesome stuff!
Nice, I will have to check that out. To be fair, I honestly got that sand about 4 years ago and that's how much I have used so far. :)
this is great. I love it and I want more longform stuff. >:D
Thank you, I will have some long form here and there. :)
Is there a picture of the end board + the army on it?
I had shared it out on my Twitter and Instagram.
So I had a hobby question about my display board ive been working on since january. (Started with a few hobby related NY resolutions) I wasn't sure where you preferred to be messaged about such things, but this seems like an appropriate place. I'm to the point where I want to pour resin as water to make a pool of souls into my board. I want to have Skulls suspended in the water with wisps of color trailing from them. I don't want the...acrylic? oil? wash? dye? ink? to spread out too much into the resin and just be a blob of color instead of a trailing wavy line. I'm listening to your Failure video right now and I really want to have "Prior Planning Preventing Poopy Product" (paraphrase) since i've sunk so much time into this one. So the question(s)
Is there a certain time in the resin curing process that is best for suspending objects?"
Do i have to do a layer, let it cure, place skulls, do another layer?
Would a two layer process be visible/does that even matter?
Is there a certain time in the resin curing process that i would be able to dab color onto end of toothpick or something to not have it spread out into color blob?
What type of paint should I use to create the trailing souls/wisps behind the skulls?
hahah sorry if this is too much, but an answer to any of them would very much ease the anxiety of finishing the last of my hobby resolutions. (sculpting and casting couldn't do much damage if i messed up)
No issue and yes, you have the right answer. Occasionally I facebook I will see these multi-pouring videos were people paint "fish" in water or whatever through multiple pours. So what you would do is something like the following.
1) Pour 1/3rd of your space.
2) Let it mostly cure
3) Push a skull gently into the layers
4) Let it dry completely.
5) Paint the energy trails with standard acrylic paint
6) Pour another 1/3rd
7) Repeat 2-5
8) make the final pour
Hope that helps.
@@VinceVenturella definitely! Thank you so much. Looking forward to finishing up this weekend.
I know this is a new comment on a very old video, but I assume that when entering a display board for an AoP-style competition, all the terrain would have to be scratch-built or GW-sourced? VS going to a regular non-gw sponsored tournament where this display board would be more common.
You are correct, for armies on parade, it all has to be GW stuff or made from scratch.
@@VinceVenturella thank you, time to cut out a LOT of foam bricks.
What was the resin that you used? If I recall correctly, your past videos for water used Woodland Scenics.
This was Magic Water, it's a 2-part resin better for these large pours.
@@VinceVenturella Thank you! I'll check it out :)
26:56 Draw the rest of the owl. Just kidding, great video I guess I'd just love to see more of the in-between steps, even if they're rehashed techniques from older content. There's something to be said for getting reps in of watching a talented artist at work. For example (and perhaps I'm in the minority here but I know there's an audience for it) I could watch you glaze for over an hour while you're just sort of "BSing". In fact, some of my favorite videos you've done are the ones where you're just pushing paint around on a model and having fun because I'm getting those visual reps in and learning but at the same time it's not boring because you're fun to listen to. Anyways, I'm just being a spoiled brat but if you ever decided you wanted to go over some of the bigger concepts in miniature painting in that sort of a format, consider me signed up.
It really was a draw the rest of the owl moment. :)
I will see what I can do, those videos are always challenging, but I do understand the value of the detail.
U seem to keep amazing me bro
Damn i love what u do
Thanks, always happy to help. :)
I really need to dedicate some time to my terrain... 🤔
Most of this stuff is fully applicable to terrain of course.:)
Thank you for pronouncing the word "height" as "height" and not "height-th". Great vid!
Happy to help, I get enough pronunciations wrong, good to get one correct. :)
Out of interest, what colours did you use for the cobblestones?
Same as the cobblestone basing video - ua-cam.com/video/vvVeRWaazW8/v-deo.html
Bascally Huldra Blue, adraictic blue and HBA titanium white.
Here's a question. How do you simulate velvet on a mini?
Very small repeated hashes building up to a very high highlight, it's a lengthy technique. You can see it on the primaris captain I shared earlier in the year.
@@VinceVenturella Thank you.
@@VinceVenturella Ummm... Can you point me which section that is in? You've got a lot of videos...
@@bencoomer2000 Sadly, I didn't do a video on this one yet, but I will add it to the list, here is the image in question on twitter - www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwixv8TAxtrkAhVEu1kKHfvvCPMQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fwarhammerweekly%2Fstatus%2F1117027021673172992%2Fphoto%2F1&psig=AOvVaw2xwONpsU3RiDEpWWpSd6WX&ust=1568902257829118
Where are the buildings from? Specifically the green/red plastic looking one
I'm also curious!
Probably 3D prints
They were 3D printed by me. The files are from printablescenery.com
@@crazyhorse-us3ng Thanks!
Yep, I thought I referenced that in the video somewhere, but if I did not, Crazyhorse is the man for sure. :)
Never showed the army on it?
I did not, I shared it out on socials, but I have no idea why I didn't do it in the video. :)
porra. que foda. jogar em um cenário assim. Realmente seria excelente.
Its just a display board. Like when you aren't playing.
Ceramic blade...
MDF is medium density fiberboard, basically fake wood, the pink foam is called foamular. Not important but I’m in construction so this bothered me
Good clarification, it always confused me because both are labeled as MDF at my hardware store, but they are clearly different. I will use that terminology from now on.
Lol - "A knife which is made of something .. I don't know... not metal."
That would be ceramic. (I suppose porcelain is not far wrong.)
That's what it was! (to be fair, it's not my knife. :) )
@@VinceVenturella Love your stuff Vince ..
IMO the greatest repository of information for model painting and also, importantly, model paints/inks/washes/and how they work and how to use them effectively - on the internet that I have found so far .. And I look a lot.
Thank you, sir, for your dedication to sharing your wealth of information ..
I hope you don't mind but I watched the whole thing on 1.5x speed.
I don't mind one bit. I am just happy it was tolerable to hear my voice at 1.5x speed.
How ya gonna take all that time to make an awesome board and not even show us your army on it?
You know what's funny, it honestly never even occurred to me, how funny is that. :)