Review Of The 63" P-38 From Motion RC: More DESTRUCTION As Advertised
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Unfortunately, I am once again bringing you a crash video of a Motion rc product! These videos are becoming far too common on my channel! Once again Motion rc has delivered an untrustworthy product! I have NO personal problem with their company, dont know any of their employees personally, and actually wish I had found another company that provided us enthusiasts with solid products and support! HOWEVER, what I found was POOR QUALITY CONTROL and OVERPRICED product along with terrible customer service! If you buy Motion buy the ARF and add your own servos and electronics. Or save yourself the headache and sorrow and just buy Horizon or Arrows or another trusted brand since the lower quality companies all charge as much these days. I own Horizon planes that are still flying after 15 years and hundreds of flights. I have had problems on 3 out of 3 planes form motion ranging in price from $600 to $315 that to me spells POOR QUALITY ACCROSS THEIR ENTIRE line up! I spent my own $ to review these products to give HONEST reviews so you can save yours, please consider liking and subscribing!!
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I’ve been getting my RC products from Motion RC for years. I’ve never had a problem with them. I had lots of problems with Banana Hobby with poor quality of Blitz and not being responsive with customer service. All or most of RC products like the foam airplanes are made in China so buyers purchasing anything made in China need to expect that a higher percentage of failure. It’s that way with anything you get from China. Motion RC is no more to blame than any other company selling these products.
Glad you have had good luck! I have friends who have had good luck as well! I wanted NOTHING more than to have found a company whose planes I could push to their limits for my viewers. However, I can only show what happened in my experience. NOT sugar coat anything for a company, especially when they treated me the way they did! They would have overnighted a replacement to a big channel. I have reviewed one and ordered another of Freewing's products to review and will continue to honestly review what I can to bring my viewers valuable information. Thank you for watching and commenting!
I have had similar experiences with several E-flite models. I'd say it is a symptom of every typical ARF company's efforts to reduce production cost and I even wonder how well they thrash them around during the product development phase. A V900 that went into a Galloping Ghost type climb and dive on flight 3 and splatted, a Conscendo that went unresponsive and dove straight in (I swear the stabilizer got confused in a vertical line), a flap servo went dead on my Night Timber last week, already replaced one of the aileron servos.. etc etc etc. Cheap cheap cheap. Yet, some of them last 150 flights pus with steady abuse. A gamble for sure.
Sorry you lost those planes man.....I agree! It is so strange and unexplainable! I really wish there was some reliable quality control going on in these places. Roll those dice my friend!! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Sorry for your loss, it could have been servo related. However, when I first watched your flight, it looked like a model that had climbed inverted almost to the vertical, almost like someone who is about to do a stall turn. At this point it really looked like your airspeed had dropped right off and when the model dropped, your elevator did not have enough effect to recover from a stall situation. I maybe wrong, but that was my first impression. I have flown my own Glow powered P-38 and you know what a high wing loading this model has
Been in the sport 8 years. This is without question my favorite prop driven to fly. Never had an issue with any control surface. (Now I’m scared sh••less) I had the front gear not deploy, made a grass landing. Not a scratch, didn’t even break the props.
This is one of those (I have about 7) that if it goes down in pieces I’ll have it’s replacement on order before I leave the field.
Nice! hope you NEVER have too! If I had the means I would definitely consider reordering one! Maybe just the ARF so I could replace crucial servos though. The P-38 is beautiful in the air and has ALWAYS been one of my favorite warbirds! Curious which 6 others you refer to.......sound like good fliers. I'm always looking for good fliers to review and add to the hanger. Nice recovery on the gear failure by the way!! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@redbeardreviewsrc Ha! Here’s the other six I can’t do without. 1) Presence in the air 2) Fun to fly, easy to land 3) Never a WTH moment
1) Freewing T-33
2) Eflite Twin Otter on Floats
3) Eflite 64mm a-10
4) Eflite 90mm Viper
5) Flightline 1600mm Spitfire
6) FMS 80mm Bae Hawk
Any of these go down, I’ll replace them and use the wreckage for spare parts. I liked the Freewing T-33 so much I bought a second in the German paint scheme.
@@jeffhenderson934 My friend has 3 T-33s LOVES THEM!!! I am really impressed by them myself! Cant believe how fast they are!!! Workin on gettin one myself... Also the German camo from a friend who never built theirs. I have the A10 and agree its pretty great. However the twin 70mm A-10 from FMS is the one to own. A friend has one I drool on. Much less wing loading on almost same 6s. Love the rest of the line up! ENJOY brother, and I wish you happy and stress free flyin! I really appreciate your subscription as well!!!
@@redbeardreviewsrc when I got in the sport, the 2nd plane was the Eflite Apprentice and I went 3 years with nothing but Eflite/AS3X/SAFE planes. After that it was Flightline 1200mm warbirds. Once I got a little better, that’s when I became the Jehovah’s Witness for Flightline and Freewing. (Just SO well built, all of them were easy to trim out and fly quickly. All had have the Spektrum 630 series receivers. Not for Safe, but AS3X.
This year my first ever FMS product was the Yak-130. Just a great little jet for the money. Couple weeks ago I got the Bae Hawk and I’m impressed with FMS. I’m sure their a-10 is a great jet. If the Eflite a-10 weren’t impossible to crash, I’d get the FMS version.
@@jeffhenderson934 The apprentice is AWESOME! I started flying before safe or asx...... Guess I'm kinda old school! I dont use safe and usually dont use asx either. My freewings use the8020T. The Yak-130 has been on backorder since I've first seen it.. But man is it a GREAT flier! Still lookin for one! The Hawk looks awesome also! I Wanted Freewing/Flightline to be great but I'm honestly greatly disappointed in their quality FOR THE MONEY!! Cheers brother!
Keep up the good work bro, Russ from Action RC, looking forward to seeing more!!
Thanks brother, in AZ at Electric Fest right now gettin more footage to bring to the channel. Thanks for watchin and takin the time to comment!
Took mine out for a maiden yesterday. I upgraded the power system and gear, its very impressive plane, it needs power to fly i wouldnt go below 50% throttle on then turns, otherwise it flew great. Sorry about your issues that sucks, but ive had issues with all manufactures so they all have problems at times.
Sounds sweet with the upgrades!! Enjoy that beast! They sure look good! Hope you have good luck!! Thanks for watching and commenting!
It looks like your gear light might be plugged into strobe. Maybe double check? I have the ov-10 bronco by flight line I haven’t flown it yet I’m hoping I don’t have any defects! You are a great pilot fun to watch!!!
Thank you! You are correct on the light. The instructions are hard to understand, that was my fault. I LOVE the OV-10 my friend has one and it flies soooooo good! I hope you have good luck. Seems to be hit or miss. Im having good luck with the Gripen from freewing so far, fingers crossed! Thanks for the compliment and please check out the rest of my channel! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank you for the kind words.
What can I add to you?
I ran a model club with my friend for a few years. We taught children how to make models. There were no smart controllers doing everything for you now, no computers and no simulators. But the more stubborn kids flew. And they had great fun with it ... Because there was a lot of room for independent thinking and innovation. Own patents and solutions.
I can only confirm the previous.
You see ... I have a thought for 40 years to bury everything to make sure it works. That's why my friends have been calling me for years - the Searchers.
Besides, I've already written a lot in various forums about learning to fly.
Much bad is happening because, for example, you watch national shows of a very expensive model and what do you see?
A model worth more than your car breaks the landing gear on landing. How is it even possible ??? Why is the pilot choking the plane to the ground just to end the show? Is ashamed? Conditions too difficult? Or maybe he can't?
"Because he has finally changed his job for a better one and has the money to make his dreams of toys come true." - for example.
So he thinks he can do it. Then she goes with the model to the shows and makes a stupid mistake.
When you try to talk to him, he reacts nervously as if you are hitting on his wife.
But he'll never buy a landing skill.
I suppose we are a rare breed! What are your favorite planes?
Wow. It was an awesome plane, and you flew it so well. I am so sorry. Condolences.
Thanks for the kind words brother! Thanks for watching and commenting also!
This is why we test out servos for 5 min each before the build process with a servo tester, not that it will save ya every time but you can see any stuttering , binding of control surfaces , heat in the servos etc
Wise words, thanks for sharing the knowledge with the community! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
Thanks for you honest assessment and UA-cam video .
Thank you! I appreciate you watching and commenting!
What brand of radio are you using? I've had three crashes (almost) in a row caused by uncommanded full-down elevator. The radio was a 2020 Spektrum DX6 using three different Spektrum receivers and relatively easy-to-fly models. (powered sailplane, old-timer, and an Astro-Hog). I've witnessed at least two other, similar crashes at our field with late-model Spektrum txmtrs. I used to love their stuff, but after my last crash, I'm done with them. Anybody want to buy a DX6 transmitter, cheap?
Sorry you have had bad luck! I use the NX10 & I was using the 8 channel telemetry receiver. Thats what I got for all 3 motion planes and two went down. Dont think it was the receiver though, the new transmitter will tell you if you loose connection and it didn't in those cases. Is there a newly added business around the field with equipment that might be interfering with signals? We had problems with a Honeywell facility that was doing govt. work that would sometimes hit our transmitters.
Does the P-38 have an Eazy connector that holds the elevator and rudder pushrods to the servohorns as the Corsair has?
Lost my Corsair yeasterday when the elevator pushrods got loose when doing the same manouver.
Sorry you lost a bird!!.......... Moment of silence observed!! Sure does use easy connector! Dont trust 'em myself these days!
Hey man, I feel your pain. Unfortunately, I had a bad experience with an Eflite jet on Thursday. The 80mm F-18 Blue Angel. It had an inherent right roll tendency which no amount of left trim or input would completely counteract. Full left would just barely keep it level. After about 30-45 seconds it departed from controlled flight and smashed into a tree, destroying the airplane. At least the electronics are good. Man, it was my dream plane, I waited for it for 2 years until I finally got it, and I didn’t even get one good flight. Just a big disappointment, especially for a Horizon Hobby plane that cost upwards of $500. It shouldn’t fly bad like that. (I’m actually considering the Freewing Blue Angel, but after seeing your bad luck, I dunno.)
Get it if you're feelin it brother just replace the servos. Their airframes look great and their selection is fabulous! Sorry to hear about the F18, have always heard they are squirrely! Was it brand new? Thanks for watching!
@@redbeardreviewsrc Yup. Brand new. Maiden flight. It was my dream plane as I said, and I waited 2+ years for it. Just extremely disappointing. Ok, so it’s just the servos, not the motors or ESCs? Got plenty of servos laying around from my busted F-18!
@@aerospacematt9147 Seems to be servo issues for me anyway. I did bypass the blue box with the aileron and elevator servo leads.
Sounds like you stalled the shit out of it. The f18 from eflite is super underpowered and when gear is down. You cannot be below half throttle. Especially in a turn.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 No stall. The airframe must’ve had a defect, because it was rolling super hard to the right. Left roll input had virtually no effect. I had my gear UP and was using full throttle. It may be underpowered, but it shouldn’t have stalled.
The landing light was plugged into the wrong place, more like pilot error
I have this model, but I bought it ARF, with no electronics in it. It does have all the wiring harnesses, and the landing gear, but after watching this, and your F-15 video, I'll be replacing ANYTHING electronic, or anything that even conducts electricity, which means all the wiring harnesses too. You may have just saved me a bunch of headache.
You would be wise to do so my friend!! And smart choice on the arf!! If I saved you money at all I have served my purpose with these videos. My goal is to be completely honest without the pandering bs! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hey brother, I'm sorry for your loss! 🙁 Unfortunately that's the Dark side of our hobby!...As I read from other commenter on this video, I own a few models from MotionRC , an AL-37 Airliner, the A10 80mm, and their Avanti S 80mm. So far I haven't had any issues with them. Again, sorry for your loss my friend! 🙁
I hope that your future fights ends up really good!... Have a great rest of your day! Greetings from Douglas, Arizona. 🌵🦠😷🇵🇷
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Thank you! The al 37 seems really cool! Glad you had good luck with your freewing models! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice flying But is it not possible from video to tell but when you rolled upright in
the climb that you stalled the model? I realized you were holding some down
inverted but the nose dropped straight down as is with a high speed stall.
where as if the elevator froze the model with enough air speed would have
rolled out differently.
If it was a high speed stall it would have recovered on the way down as I was pulling full up with the throttle on high! I'm in the process of getting a chest camera that shows my radio so that there is NO QUESTION what I do with the sticks from now on. Thanks for watchin and commenting.
@@redbeardreviewsrc Hi well
high speed (accelerated) stall.
you were climbing inverted then
you rolled level with the power on
the high angle of attack and type
of aircraft you were flying the stall
characteristics stall speed is
higher then you think. If the elevator
was jammed and you were inputting
down during inverted flight the roll
with a jammed elevator would have
looked different. but it rolled and snapped
nose down and fell straight down. when
you held full up the Aircraft full sized or
model will crash. with the elevator stalled
unless you release it then pull back again
it won't recover. read about stalls and high
speed Maneuvers. The Real P-38 killed
many pilots including second highest
ace .Air France 447 fell in to the ocean
from 35,000 in a high speed stall
My last plane I got was the T-33 and one of the elevator servo went bad before even flying it so they sent me one when I flew it after the 2 flight the other side when out too luckily they went out before flight so I went ahead and replaced them with hi tec servos. Their QC is a bit sloppy compared to before and prices are very high.
Glad you caught that second one before flight! Good lookin out! I completely agree, too pricey for the quality!! The T-33 looks loke a great flier once you replace critical components. Thanks for watching and commenting!
i agree ailerons and rudder you can risk it but for sure you need the elevator always switch the stock elevator servo for a good quality one you can trust.
Good advice for most Freewing planes in many peoples opinions. Thanks for watchin and commenting!
I notice they don't supply a RF choke for these speed controls any more and it not uncommon for my plane to freeze for a few with last input are they not required anymore ?
Good observation! I normally only notice them one the larger and more expensive models I have come across lately. Thank you for watching!
Hey I have the same P38 and I’ve never had any problems the only problem was I upgraded the motor and not the props.. lol my fault . But a member of my club told me to use a life battery for the receiver to power the servos . He explained why but didn’t really understand all of it but he’s an electrical engineer and has been flying forever . It couldn’t hurt to do it👍🏽
Or you could buy a reliable brand and not worry about spending more money on an already overpriced product!
Glad you had good luck with them! All I do is review what they sold me!
Are those FW servoes on that P-39 plastic or metal geared? Just curious.. I’ve pretty bad luck with stripping the plastic ones pretty quickly. If I get a plane I can’t live without (like the FMS Pitts), I replace them with metal/digital usually.
I'm not exactly sure, but that is great advice! That did have the stock servos. I often use metal geared servos on at least the elevator in many of the faster planes. Thanks for sharin wisdom with the channel, and thanks for watchin and takin the time to comment!
man, i feel your pain. Unfortunately I had a bad experience with a Tucano or Pilatus PC-21 😥😥😥😥
Sorry you lost a bird! Thanks for watching!
I have flightline Spitfire 1600 mm for 4 years (400 flights, mayby more :D ) - still in one piece :D - great plane
Nice work keepin it that way! I am just getting back into the hobby and have less than 15 flights on ANYTHING in the hangar now, but Love gettin to fly things for YEARS. It's almost like hangin out with an old friend! Glad you've had good luck with Flightline! Some are great and some as we have seen on my channel are not so great. Wish they were more constant.......especially for the money! Thanks for watching and commenting!
That happened on the original P38 lightning as well. Going too fast and the steep dive.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Not always the servo, could be lack of glue on the control horn.
I completely agree! Thanks for watching and commenting!
that was a Great flight, looked and sounded NOICE!!! even the second flite looked great... til it wasnt 😑
Lol! Well said. Thanks for watching and commenting!
In my humble opinion, you were pushing the plane far beyond what it was designed to do. Full-scale planes have a Vne (velocity never exceed) and I believe the same applies to RC planes although it is never mentioned. High-speed, full-bore flying puts a lot of stress on the control surfaces and servos and can induce failure, obviously, even if the airframe manages to stay together. Control surface flutter is also more likely at high speed and can be catastrophic.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion! I consistently put models through tests like this. I fly ALL my planes this way and some even harder! There are the inevitable things that go wrong, I agree. However, on the second flight to have a failure like that was not acceptable for the amount of money they charge for their product, that was my main problem. Also had just had their $590 F-15 fail in VERY calm, routine flight, on a maiden with NO support from the company at all (see my Freewing F-15 video) I will say I have had better luck with their products since, but they left a bad taste in my mouth after having issues with ALL 3 planes on my first purchase from them!
You should always test all the servos in a foamy arf with a decent servo tester/exerciser for 10/15 minutes each. After all, they are cheap $4/$5 dollar servos!! You can expect what you inspect!!
Good advice! Thanks for watching
@@redbeardreviewsrc Very courteous response haha
I got 47 motion Rc planes and jets. No issue 3 min max flight time on them all. Low RX voltage will reset
I have a friend with similar luck!! Mine apparently is terrible! Thank you for watching!
First up guys motion rc is just a distributor, so just saying motion rc… doesn’t mean diddly squat. Never had a flight line plane, but many many freewing planes and they have all been tits. At my field I see guys blaming Servos and all sorts on crashes and tbh from what they were doing at the time it has always been pretty bs from brownouts to lock outs.
@@lucaschapman1966 Where else can you get freewing or flight line?
@@redbeardreviewsrc directly from freewing, also rc-castle, Ali express, I believe banana hobby use to carry them but unclear now.
@@lucaschapman1966 Are any of those U.S. based? Or do they all ship from overseas?
Servo mounts, servo service, servos are machines that include potentiometers that can fail under vibration yet nobody opens their servos to service them like we used to in the old days. Granted servos are tiny now but so is dirt.
Very true, I have not worked much on servos. I usually just replace them if I have issue. I will have to ask someone with the knowledge to teach me more about it. Thanks for watchin and commenting!
You are correct my elevator servo stuck on my Vulcan and destroyed my bird
Sorry you lost a plane! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Well I bought one , however I will upgrade to all Hi Tec Servos after watching the carnage. I also do not plan to invert this model. All of my motion RC models have flown well. I did crash the SU-35 but it was my fault for pushing the thrust vectoring and stalled it. RBM4E
Hope you have awesome luck with it my friend! It's so pretty, and I might pick up a used one if I were to come across one. As always, thanks for watching and commenting. Happy flying brother!
I fly racing quads, ornithopters, you name it… Warbirds always get my blood pumping 😬😂 I don’t know what it is 🤔 you handle that bird like a champ! Shit is always going sideways in this hobby, we just roll with the punches my friend 💯👍👍
Thanks
My P38 is a hangar queen. Just might keep it that way
The P-38 is one of the most beautiful birds EVER! If there has to be hanger queen. She's a good vote! LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!
The reason landing light is flashing is because blue box has 4 ports for lights. The landing gear light needs to be connected to the correct port on blue box. I have the same airplane.
So I have heard. That was me not being able to decipher the mostly English instructions! Thanks for watchin and commenting!
Had exactly the same thing happen to a Motion RC Shrike. On about the 10th flight it starting acting up in the pitch axis, then rolled over an went straight in. The only servo that was stripped was the elevator. I checked the ailerons and rudder, they were OK. It was less than 3 weeks old. Motion RC claimed it must have experienced a hard landing before the servo failure. It was flying great at the first of that last flight. Landings had all been smooth slides on short grass. I'll not be buying anything else from them.
Sorry you lost a plane! Definitely CHECK EVERY CONNECTION if you do! which is sad because they have GREAT selection and look phenomenal! Thank you for watching and commenting!
I don't have a lot of planes in the hanger yet because I've just got back into the hobby this year but over the many years of being in this hobby, I've never had a servo go bad in flight on any control surface. I know, lucky me right. It is very sad to see something like this happen. At first, I thought this was going to be a structural failure of some kind because you seem to fault the plane but this is clearly an electronics equipment failure. Yes the servo's came installed in the kit so that makes it fair game to complain about Motion R/C but really, the plane itself is quite good. Put in trusted servos and electronics as required and you will have an outstanding P-38 that will fly without any problems. That's why many of us like ARF's over PNP so that isn't an issue ever. I'm kind of interested in the actual servo failure itself. If you take that apart and examine it, is there anything obviously wrong with it? What would cause a servo to get pinned to one side? Only thing I could think of is a small particle of debris left from the factory by accident. Surely this isn't a common thing to happen like this. I would open that servo up and inspect it. Did the elevator servo stay in that locked position after the crash or was it then working again? If it was working again, I would look at the linkages carefully to see if there was an issue with that. Was the linkage attached after the crash?
The Linkage was not attached, but cant determine if it happened in flight or when it crashed! And yes you are a lucky guy. I had 0 holds on the radio. Probably was a linkage issue as the connectors leave plenty to be desired. Totally agree with the ARF but wanted to buy what MOST people will get to review. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I suspect a signal issue, at least on the P-38. Since you use Spektrum, did you check the Frame losses and Holds after the flight? You should also set alarms for Frame losses over 150 and any Holds. I have 15 large Freewing/Flightline aircraft and 10 HH's and although both use crappy servos, the only issues for me have come from poor signals, especially in twins. That's not saying their electronics are never bad. Although HH's habit of discontinuing products quickly has resulted in my personal ban on their products (except TX and RX which I use exclusively). I use RF chokes and sattelite remotes on almost every aircraft to solve it. HH is good at locating antennas and usually the signals on RX installed models are good, but even the twin SU-30 was almost impossible to cure without a satellite, chokes and constantly readjusting all four antennas. That P-38 crash looked like a classic example of a Hold, when you rolled back level, the elevator stayed in down position, its last location, and ailerons were sporadic at best. Being the signal line from TX was to the rear of the plane, the signal would be masked/affected by 2 ESC's, the power cables, throttle wires, carbon fiber tubes and the batteries, a recipe for sporadic signal issues and RF interference. Range tests help, but only checking signals in flight and seeing what the final frame/holds at the end will give you the true picture. Don't assume it's not the signal just because you are using a good TX and RX, it's all in the surrounding electronics and antenna/RX placement. I use a DX 9 and an IX 20 and all RX's are Spektrum, but if I don't have the above issues placed correctly, I've had signal issues. Could be out in left field, but just a thought.
Great tips! Thanks! I was unaware you could set alarms for holds. I'll definitely look into that! Thank you for watching and sharing information with the community!
@@redbeardreviewsrc the only weird thing is you only lost elevator not ailerons so I don’t think that was the case.
@@octane2099After waiting until the wound in my soul healed a bit I looked at it and I'm actually leaning toward the servo link coming out of the servo arm in flight! Thanks for watching!
Smart. For the wing of my Graupner (kit) Partenavia I twisted DC power lines and ESC leads.
Flys great.
@@reasonitout9087 Niiccee!! Thanks for watchin and commenting!
I'm glad I sold my twin 80mm edf Freewing Tomcat! It was full of those servos
There are a few around that are great fliers, but its so hit or miss you literally never know! Probably best to replace crucial servos with reliable brands. Thanks for watching!
I have had no problems with mine. I did change elevator servo and beef it up a bit on control arm. But no issues as of yet and I am on my 24th flight.
Definitely a smart move! They are beautiful, hope you have good luck with it! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Good flying and thanks for sharing your video. I had a similar problem with the Motion Rc Sea Fury where the push rod for the elevator slipped. I put down input to come in for a low pass and the control rod or push rod slipped in the servo and the plane did an inside loop int to trees. No up elevator input could pull it back up. The elevator was stuck in the down position when I recovered the wreckage. I’m all Horizon Hobby now for planes.
Sorry to hear about your Sea Furry! Freewing definitely has quality control issues. All brands are susceptible to mishaps, but Horizon seems to have the fewest! Thanks for watching and commenting!
So I would replace the servos in the twin 80mm f14 tomcat?
Definitely a good plan! They seem to be as cheap as possible! Thanks for watching!
Good luck with the Tomcat!!
What Servo is it that is failing the analog Servo or the digital?
Probably analog since that would be the cheapest option, but I'm not sure. I recommend changing all of them or just getting the arf version. Their (motion RC) airframes are nice looking for sure!
Thank you for watching!
@@redbeardreviewsrc I'm flying motion RC aircraft at the moment F-22 Raptor and a 70 mm F-16, 90 mm of 16 no issues yet but I will keep my fingers crossed LOL
Also, that landing light is a simple fix.
I have heard that since makin the video....... My bad......wish the owners manual was more clear about the wiring though....... thanks again for watchin!
Was my favorite as a kid I want one but I suck at flying still I'm always fixing instead of getting flying time 😆
Take her easy brother! Get an Apprentice or another above wing trainer like Aeroscout. Be patient and subtle in movement and keep at it. Maybe consider a simulator. I suggest real flight. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Aww dude, I love that bird. I always wanted one. Great flying though. This is truly that crappy part of the hobby, to come down in a way you never want to plan for😞
Thank you! P-38s are among my favorite warbirds........ I may have privately shed a tear😭
Thank you for watching!
@@redbeardreviewsrc shoot, I know I would, and have done so believe me. Well happy flying, most importantly happier landings😁
Love all my many Flightline and Freewing planes as well as my Nexa balsa Arfs. Never had reason to contact Motion for customer service so I cannot comment about that. Hate you've had bad experences. The F-16 is probably my favorite of there EDFs it flies so well.
I agree it does fly well. Unfortunately only after replacing the elevator servos and the front gear that failed to deploy resulting in a belly landing. Many of their products look great in the air as well. Just gotta keep 'em there! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I’m going to say the servo did NOT fail, but you did rip out the control horn due to your jerkiness on the elevator.
I am getting a chest camera set up so there is NO QUESTION as to what I'm doing on the sticks to avoid comments on what I did with the sticks. There is NO jerking of the sticks when I fly my friend! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I have flown this bird many times it's an amazing flier
It sure is! When it flies! Glad you are having good luck! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Sorry about the model. Just on servos, any brand can fail unfortunately, I had a $90.00 Futaba servo (elevator) in a turbine model go dead short (fortunately) just prior to start up, travel to the end of its motion (full up), and proceed to burn and melt the wiring harness back to the switch.
I managed to disconnect the batteries before any major fire started. But, as I said it can happen with any servo.
WOW!! That could have been ugly! Thank goodness you said the key words "just prior to start up"! Turbine planes seem REALLY cool! Glad you were able to get it under control! I heard more key words...... "major fire"....... it caught fire?? What a day at the field! Thanks for watchin and commenting!
@@redbeardreviewsrc Yep, I agree. In almost 50 years of aeromodelling, this would be the first time I have dodged a bullet so easily. In Australian dollars that could have been a 6 or 7K problem. This was only a smaller sport jet. Great content on your channel, good work. Subbed.
@@damienmilk3025 Thank you! And a HUGE hello to my viewers in Australia!!! Love the people and culture "down under"!! Thank you very much for subscribing!!
Yeah I’ve got one of these in the green livery. Love it, but the elevator horn came unstuck on takeoff. There are a few misses on quality control to be sure.
Really wish it would have worked out! The P-38 has always been a favorite! It looks so awesome in the air! I may have to get an ARF to fix up and have another! Hope you have great luck with yours! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@redbeardreviewsrc same, love the shape of the P-38. It's so different to any other warbird.
I have about 6 of the flightline warbirds and this p38 with no issues after 8 years of flying them
Glad you had good luck! I have had better luck in the past as you see on the channel, however all I can do is honestly show what happens! I definitely wish I had her back! Thanks for watchin and commenting!
@@redbeardreviewsrc And you ere running twin 3,000 4s ? and a spectrum 8 ch ?
@@vrosi1963 They were brand new 3300mah 4s. And yes the 8020T receiver. I run that receiver on most of my models. And I use a 4 month old NX10. Valentino Rosi was one of my heroes by the way!
@@redbeardreviewsrc Rossi had his day but needed to retire years ago
@@vrosi1963 Agreed! Cheers!!
That sucks man, sorry about that. I installed some metal gear servos on my F18 and thought I was doing the right thing here, well needless to say 3 of the 4 went bad I kept crashing the plan but couldn't figure out why, but eventually I did. My plane is less then $200 and was repairable so I can only imagine what loosing almost $500 is like over bad QC from the company that installed them.
Thanks! F-18......sounds sweet! That is one I have always wanted to get. What company makes your F-18? Yes that definitely hurt the wallet! Lost a 90mm F-15 from the same company. At least I think I can fix it though. This one is just spare parts now! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@redbeardreviewsrc So I am a cheapo LOL, mine was the kit version 50mm from Banggood, however cant find them anymore and the PNP is to high in price, HK has the same setup but different EDFs of course and there's are $169, My kit version was $110 and I installed my own setup, went with Xfly 4S 50mm EDF and a 40amp ESC turned out to be a little beast. I hope Xfly drops a 64 or 70mm F18 there products so far I am impressed with. I have the T7a 64mm and its nice, no rudders but I am modding that now.
@@ltfadl1 That conversion sounds awesome! Nice work!! I have heard good things about Xfly. I also like to mod things, constantly adding flaps if there aren't any. The rudder conversion will be sweet! Thanks again for watching!
Watched your video for first time . I have a few Freewing planes and have no problem. How ever I have had mega problems with spectrum. I would NOT fly a paper plate with Spectrum, main problem brown outs cause elevator to lock in down position. Horizon has admitted to brown outs on the crap RXs , sorry buddy I think your looking in the wrong place.
Good to know, thank you! Thanks for watchin!
Could not agree more about their servos and I’ve stated that to them without response . That being said I really love their planes otherwise
Me too! Replace the elevator servos and watch for the “jitter” and change them as you see them. Thanks for watchin and commenting!
I have a lot of Motion/Freewing jets and planes. ZERO issues out of any of them. You have to check over EVERYTHING when you build it and then double check. There is SO many fail points on these planes it's crazy. If you want to play in this hobby you have to accept that there are going to be fails like this. BUT, if you are having fail after fail, might want to look at the pilot.
& you might want to look at my other videos that weren't freewing and flightline and get back to me!!!!! How do I have so many maidens and flights inverted at 100 mph @ 2 feet off the deck if its me????? You should think before you make foolish statements in public!!!🤭
Never had any problems with servos from motion rc
Wow! You are a lucky man!
@@redbeardreviewsrc are you sure it didn't have something to do with that landing light flashing on and off 🤔
@@KennethWhiteakaruckusbringa I have come to learn that was my fault! However the wiring diagram is in broken English at best!! Cheers!
@@redbeardreviewsrc oh ok but nothing to do with elevator servo I can't remember if it connected to that blue board or not
Mayday..mayday..someone take control this plane,we're gonna crash!
LOL Thanks for watching!!
Hi, great videos, I too had a red beard many years ago, now its just white! LOL! I have my own complaints about Motion rc That I wont discuss here, But I have a few thoughts. I had a friend with a spektrum DX radio that was having loss of signal issues. Somewhere in the radio is a place to select the usa power output level or the European output level. I can find it and tell you where it is if you are interested. His radio had the European level selected, when he changed it to the USA output his problems resolved. Another issue I know of and freewing does this on almost all their planes. there is too much travel selected by the improper setup of the control surface throws. In other words, if you actuate the servo 100% the hinge or the pivot of the control surface will bind. Nothing is harder on a servo than loading it up against a hard stop. You need to reduce the travel mechanically of your servos so that they dont bind at the limits of their travel. In most cases this means selecting the hole closest to the servo pivot point. I have most of the freewing 70, 80, and 90mm jets and I have never lost a servo in flight, and I fly them all. Maybe I have been lucky, I dont know. But I always reduce my control throws so there is no mechanical bind at full travel. Most times in the freewing directions they have you using the hole furthest out in the servo arm or maybe the 2nd one in. This will Bind! You cant just reduce the end point travel in the radio because sometimes when I power up, the servos go to full deflection one side or the other. I hope some of this helps! Good luck! Keep up the good work!
Good advice! Thank you for sharing your knowledge, watching, and the kind words!
I'm a beginner, and this makes a lot of sense. The reason I say this is cuz I don't go with full travel mainly because I couldn't handle it. And never had any trouble with my planes. I watch and learn. And if I could only fly as good as you. Thanks for sharing. My problem is I keep buying discontinued planes. I got to stop doing that. I've had good luck with Horizon , but because Dynam planes I could get cheap bought two of them a hawker tempest, and a hellcat. The landing gear on the hellcat sucks but found out that e-flite corsair has great landing gear waiting for them to come. So far my carbon cub and t28 have been flawless I think now cause I don't push it to the extreme. Thanks again to all you pro's.
@@neilstern7108 Thank you for the kind words my friend! I watch and learn as well, EVERY chance I get! I think that is an important thing to do in life! The Hellcat and Tempest should be good fliers, I hope you have great luck with them! Good choice on the Cub and T-28! I really like the T-28 and have heard great things about the carbon cub! Thanks again for watching and "keep 'em in the air!!"
I bet your control horn on the elevator broke loose out of the foam. It did on mine, but luckily it did not let go completly, and it just flew like it was out of trim........it would surely have pullet out completyly if I had flown inverted like you.... I got lucky, and got it down in one piece.
That must have been a fight to get it down in one piece, good job! My control horns are still attached. I think the rod came off the servo arm. Still a sad tale! or tail depending on your preference! Keep 'em in the air.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
P38 were famous for loosing elevator in dives. Elevator would lose the ability to be controlled. Possibility
I have heard that, however I was not in a dive I was going up inverted. Thanks for watchin and commenting!
This is just my opinion but I feel like motion RC have designed the plane to be flown scale and not pushed to it's limits and that's why they probably used cheaper servos. Not servos that are designed for 3d aerobatic models. I get the impression that if it was flown scale and not crazy manovers the servos would hold up a lot better. Like any model if you plan on pushing it you replace the servos first.
That is a good idea! This is however a review channel. Therefore I want to show people what they are getting for their $480 hard earned dollars.(not counting the extra $100 receiver) Not modifying things to make them even more expensive! Horizon Hobby products RARELY need upgrades out of the box to fly them like you stole them. Freewing/Flightline should maintain that quality for the money they charge in my opinion! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@redbeardreviewsrc That's a fair point didn't think of it that way. Great video as always.
@@ConnorCain25 Thank you for the compliment, and HUGE thanks for watching!
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LOL! I am thinking about getting another one and more power is ALWAYS good! Thanks for watching and commenting!
You were flying your first flight in some pretty good rain! unless they are waterproof servos, servos don't like water very much. your elevator servo probably got water in it and that's y it failed! I have many freewing jets from motion and i have had only 1 servo fail like that and it was after it got water on it from my roll out from a landing were i accidently rolled through a water hole. had the same thing happen to me with a fms plane as well.
Did your servo get stuck after? The P-38 is such a favorite of mine I recently purchased a used one. Gonna make sure everything is well connected. Have own a few more, and have many friends who fly them without issue. Was very disappointed when both the F-15 and P-38 crashed and were my first models from the same order. Thats all I could speak on at the time of the video. I love my B-2, and have 10 more motion planes coming to the channel soon. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@redbeardreviewsrc ya it locked up but thankfully it stuck on the ground so i did not loss the jet
@@brian1740 Glad you were able to catch it!
Sad to see such chrases. What is there left to be used after such crash?
Thats a good question! Sometimes you can completely rebuild and reuse everything! After this crash most of the parts are junk unfortunately. Maybe the motors and speed controllers could be reused after checking them for damage. Luckily all of the landing gear are also still useable! Thanks for watching!
This is why I only get kits... so I can put my own servos.
Smart Idea! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Changing electronics is something each pilot must choose whether it is worth it or not "TO THEM" Personally I change all control surfaces to digital HiTec servos. My preference. My experience.
Smart move!! I change the receiver only & leave things how they come to accurately review what a customer will receive when they open the box. I want to show people what they are getting for their money! Thanks for watching and commenting!
It appears that you may have plugged the landing light into the wrong port on the blue box meant for the wingtip lights, as for the elevator servo failure it's pretty well documented on the forums that the servo is not reliable and will fail, and it's also known to rip out of the foam surface under high G maneuvers. There is no excuse for that lack of quality but I always browse the model specific forums before I maiden any of these Chinese made airplanes, and I remedied the issue with a new servo and servo reinforcement before this happened to my $600 plus dollar bird.
Good advice thanks! & Thanks for watching!
I,too,surf the forums looking for weaknesses in the aircraft I wish to purchase, whether they be NIB or previously flown.
Some of my freinds call me add-on as nothing seems to remain stock before it is flown.It may cost me a few more bucks,and some time,but a lot less than a total loss.
It's just a shame that customers in general need to be rc mechanics,repair people and engineers...
@@thane5665 I agree! Especially considering what some of them cost! And if I was you I would be proud of that nickname! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Motion R C are very good products.
In my opinion you experienced a brown out on one of the esc's
I always run bec protection on all my large electric planes.
Secondly, you are pushing a scale plane like it's a pattern plane.
You over heated the esc that ran your reciver or due to your speed over powered the servos
Glad you have had good luck. Quite possible! I haven't checked the esc. I'll look into that possibility. Thanks for the idea! In my opinion the price and quality of Motions products are more in line now that they have lowered their prices. While I am not happy with the rise in Horizons products I feel their quality control is FAR superior to Motion. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Is that a model of Thomas B. McGuire's Pudgy V?
It was actually battle axe. Though they do send a decal set for Pudgy V. I love the P-38 and its history so much, I am considering ordering the ARF and doing the replacement in Pudgy V. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Daaaaaaaamn Bro! Sheeeeeeeeit! 🥴👍🛩💥
Well said my friend!
sad eh the most critical part of the plane is the servo! and most any make has junk servos . I have dug to many graves on maidens over this problem.
So true! It costs so much to replace all 8 and @ $480 for just the plane then another $100 for the receiver.......OUCH. Disappointing when you pay so much. If I pay $580 plus tax. Thats over$600. Horizon model costing $600 will be SOLID in the air and last for YEARS! Or they will replace something if it wasn't your fault (with video proof of course) Thank you for watching and commenting!
Dude, I own 10 or 12 Freewing rc planes. Not sure where your head is at, but they are definitely better quality than most.
Where to start? I am definitely glad you have had good luck and I wish you NOTHING less in the future! However if you check out the channel you will see I have flown a few of their planes since and had decent luck so far...... That being said, when I started the channel I spent close to $1,500 on one order that included the p-38, f-15, and the f-16. Both the $590 f-15 and the $490 p-38 crashed almost immediately due to unknown causes. I had quality issues with the f-16 as well (jittery servo & front gear failure in flight). So that is where my head was at..... I am HIGHLY impressed with their B-2 but I also own their Gripen and have had multiple issues with a gear door that has NEVER been quite right. In my experience Eflite, FMS, Xfly, or even Flyfans have NEVER let me down in quality OR customer support the way motion has. I have friends who have had AWESOME luck with them, however I can only speak to my experience. I sincerely wish you the best of luck and happy flying! thanks for watching and commenting!
The P38 is also my favourite warbird. I have 2 of the Flightline P38s Silver and Green. I am also in the process of building a 3.2 metre twin 85 cc petrol engine super scale. I have lots of Freewing and Flightline products. As others have already advised Motion RC pretends to be in control of the quality and build of these models. Bt they are only a US distributor and have no say in the models themselves. You need to be aware that all the foamies are built to a price and not a quality standard. Freewing split the product line into Freewing for Jets and Flightline for props.
You also need to understand that they have had issues with servos and interconnection boxes. The BECs are low quality. your lucky you didn't buy the Mig 29. That was a disaster with the underpowered elevator servos.
Don't get discouraged most foamies don't have great quality control and all built in China. E-Flite rebadge FMS models.
You just need to test everything and replace anything that you dont like in the electronics. The prop motors and EDFs are all OK.
Cheers
Completely agree! However, the price point on motions products are too high for the quality!! Paying $589 for the f15 and $469 for the p38 one would think that the quality standard would be better! Between that and their unwillingness to stand by their product I cant recommend them!
Did you buy the Mig 29? I have a friend who lost his😢 Still NO IDEA why!! I also have friends who have had motion products and have had good luck. All I do is review what I got in the box!
@@redbeardreviewsrc Yes, but they are foamies. My Aviation Jets SU35S twin turbine was $20,000 for the airframe, electric retracts and servos, My P38 was $15,000 for airframe, electric retract and servos. I have a lot of composite models from CY, TopRC, Blackhorse, and Topflight. These are $2000 for airframes with retracts, no electronics or engines. The price of a Plug and Play models from Freewing, FMS, E-Flite etc are all good value wherever you buy them. With Electronics, Motors, EDFs and servos. They come in at a very good price for foamies. But because of the popularity and the low cost for this hobby the market is very competitive, so pricing is very sensitive hence the compromise on the parts that come standard, like servos and control boxes. Spending $100 for a servo of good quality is not unusual. I appreciate your videos of your exploits you are a good aggressive pilot. you should try flying RC Helicopters they do assist in your skills, or at least they did for me. You have to fly all 4 quadrants constantly, not like 2 that you can get away with flying a fixed wing. Keep your videos coming I enjoy them. I have subscribed. More exciting flying, and less crashes would be good. 👌I can feel your pocket pain. 😩
@@redbeardreviewsrc Yes I have the Freewing Mig 29, got out from Motion RC as nearly all of my Freewing and Flightline models. 32 different model types some of them in pairs for formation flying and pilot training. I hate instructing on other peoples aircraft. The majority of this collection is in my rented storage garages. I leant to fly fixed wing nitro about 45 years ago and lost my first plane on my second session due to a low quality Sanwa radio. My instructor did the best he could to recover it but it was pointless. He apologised but it was not his fault. He was and is a very good pilot instructor, and modeller. You may have heard of him, his name is Peter Goldsmith. My club where I leaned to fly had some amazing pilots and instructors. I watched one of the instructors land a model safely, that had completely lost the elevators. He landing it using throttle control only. He was a Chief Check Pilot for Qantas and shuttled brand new 747s from Boing Field to Sydney Australia. Me, I'm am just an average grunt pilot that loves the hobby. I am just retired now and collected lots of models over the years ready for my retirement when I know money would be short, and accidents would be prevalent. 😂
With the Freewing Mig29, they recognised after many maiden and early crashes that it had a problem with the elevator servos. Motion sent out replacement (Higher Torque) Elevator Servos for those early adopters with instructions on how to update. Freewing then updated the newer models with the better servos.
But MigGate did show a lot of quality issues from many UA-cam channels. Most of us with the Migs also replaced the control rods with stiffer ones. Some went with Carbon fibre tubes, I went with Titanium. There are also videos of pilots doing stress tests on the Freewing Servos using servo testers where the Elevator servos would fail after about 15 minutes.
The issue casued the Mig 29 elevator servos to fail when in a steep dive, particularly if flaps were also in use. The elevator would fail and you could not pull out of the dive.
How did your friend lose his? The same problem, no elevator control after a dive?
If you want to upgrade servos, make sure that they have sufficient torque and the Potentiometers in them are Taiwanese. For expensive composite models make sure that they are at least Coreless for non critical surfaces and Brushless for the ones that a critical. And stress test all of them for at least 20 minutes. For Taiwanese pots this test duration is not an issue, due to the quality of the resistive surface and the wipers.
For expensive models I always add a Advanced Radio Smoothflite Gyro servo controller. Its not about helping you fly as your skills are not up to scratch but to assist you in bringing down a damaged plane safely. There is a great UA-cam example of this from them; showing a composite turbine sports jet hitting a pole with the right wing in a high speed flypast, It ripped the tip off the wing and damaged the wing root but was completely flyable and landed safely. Amazing to watch.
Keep up reviewing what you get in the box, love the aggressive flight style as well. I have folder bookmarks for all my model Purchases and keep video bookmarks in them so I can review before I start building the model for any potential issues that need attention. You now have some bookmarks in my folders. 👍
@@brianroberts5062 You are quite knowledgeable! And your fixes and workarounds are quite smart! Titanium push rods!! WOW! That sounds perfect! My friends Mig 29 was actually flying straight and level and lost all power on its maiden flight! Thank you for the compliments and I am honored to be in your information bookmarks! I'll definitely check out the servo controller! Thank you for watching and commenting!
Yikes, you end up with a diagnosis? Saw one go straight in on its second or third flight after the control horn tore out of the elevator.
96.7% percent the elevator locked in flight. Thank you for watching!
@@redbeardreviewsrc I like those odds!
The landing light issue is caused by plugging the landing light into the navigation light leads. Can't blame that on Motion.
It always sucks to see a plane go down.
Good to know! They could be MUCH more clear on their wiring instructions!!
@@redbeardreviewsrc человек если летать не умеешь и не разбираешься в хобби зачем обвинять других в своих собственных ошибках.
Что мешало найти сбой на земле?
@@user-oo1pu6bj1c LOL!!!!!! Watch videos from other companies on my channel before you make yourself seem foolish in public!!
@@redbeardreviewsrc вот ты и lol
@@user-oo1pu6bj1c sure!
your a stick pro wow ! the envy !
That is one of the nicest things anyone has EVER commented on my channel! Thank you!
Someone has had to mention it but that light is flashing because you plugged something in wrong
Mentioned repeatedly, the owners manuel sucks and was written by someone who CLEARLY does not have a proper grasp on the English language.
l agree better servos are a must
Dont fly in the rain! Lol my freewing jets and flightline birds are great with dozens and dozens of flights. You also flew it in the rain... who knows what that did to the electronics.
Touche'......I had bad luck with all three of the first planes I got from Motion in a 1300$ order so I was pretty bitter. I own and have flown many of their planes since then...... Still dont have 98% confidence in them like I do Horizon, but I'm warming up! Thanks for watchin and commenting!
I would bet that you caused this . One thing flying it inverted and then pushing full down elevator that ether striped the servo or torn it away from the foam . . You have to be much gentler on the sticks . They could only with stand so many G's .
That could be possible if they weren't both still intact. Also, I have pulled WAY more G's accidentally and purposely........ mostly accidentally. I pulled at least the same amount with the B-2 on the invert video. If I "have to be much gentler on the sticks" then I can't recommend the plane. For that kind of money, it should stand up to hard flying just like the comparably priced (and many even cheaper) Horizon, Arrows, Flyfans, Freewing, and Hobby King planes I have flown and reviewed on the channel. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@redbeardreviewsrc Ok I get it . Some you like flying scale aircraft in an un-scale speeds and maneuvers . Just s style of flying . I fly also and I build aircraft . All things have their limits . Going past those limits will destroy an airplane and the souls on board . Ho wait these are toys right ! Not real airplanes . So go right ahead and fly like you own stolen it . Wait . I do know that when I got into flying model airplanes I was like most kids . I started with rubber band models the started to build my own . Over the years as a kid I was learning things about structure , strengths . wood weights . and even the covering . Then for a long time I was out of it until I was disabled . Then I got back into it again back about 30 years ago . Back then I took everything I know and applied into model aircraft . I had invented a vary light but strong structure that no one had ever used back then and still dont to this day . I glass both sides of every sheet of the lightest Balsa I could buy . I apply one light coat of epoxy lay fiberglass cloth to the sheet . Then put those sheets into a vacuum chamber that I built . Then let that dry . I use those sheets instead of light ply or other multi ply woods . I also used carbon fiber back in the 80's as well . One place I did used this was no spars . Instead of using 5 ply I used light ply with fiberglass layup . This also made the plane even lighter . Most people build their 1/5 scale Mustangs at 35 or more lbs . I can built it in at 20 lbs and be stronger and faster . It also can come down land slower . More of a scale speed . There was one person I knew and the was Dave Platt . a British guy that I had met a long time ago . He built some of the lightest planes and the best planes I ever seen and flown . He told me if you could build them light then they fly right . He was right and he and I got along and always on the same page of thinking . So anyway I guess I am a scale guy and try to have fun with it . Your like most I see flying . Just to have fun . There is nothing wrong with that it is just not me .
@@jeffmullinix7916 Thanks brother. Your builds sound AWESOME!! Thanks for watching!
Thank god no one was hurt and the black box was never found. Lol Jk fix it nice video
LOL! Unfortunately, it will stay a sad memory. I may try an ARF kit. Such a good looking plane! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Never use cheap servos. I always replace them or install quality servos. If this is the third time the servos gave out on you that’s your own fault. The place carcass isn’t the issue 90% of the time. It’s always control equipment.
An unfortunate truth! On the channel however, I try to review and fly the planes as the come. That way I am showing the customer what they get when purchasing these products. To modify them unless unsafe or inoperative is not a true representation of said product. I hope to hold companies accountable by showing the true reality of their products. Unless we expose them and hold them to a standard you will continue to have to change your servos. Thank you for watchin and taking the time to comment...... I apologize for the delay in replying!
Damn man their goes 500 bux in a flash 😢😢😢 race you to a 1000 subs bro 😂😂😂😂👊🏼
Lol! Indeed, that one still stings a bit! I love the P-38, so I acquired another from a friend. Hope it goes better this time! & Guess as a UA-camr I can't turn down a friendly challenge to a race! Thanks for watchin, commenting and subscribing!
@@redbeardreviewsrc haha cool bro 👌🏼 is it another motion p38? It is a lovely bird but I find all these manufacturers the price has rocketed and the quality of parts used inside has plummeted. Even the so called top brands don't stand by their products all the time, it is so easy for them to say pilot error you crashed and want another 1. It also must be a nightmare to be in this hobby on that side of things because so many try it on lol how the hell would you know who is bsing you and who is not. Happy holidays bro 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@@propgear123 Yea, it is another motion.... However it is an older version. In their defense, I was impressed with their 8s Eurofighter V2.
Your flying is sub par , seeing that plane all over the place makes me wonder about your flying skills .
Then you CLEARLY haven't seen the rest of my channel!!🤣You should do more research before making foolish comments in public!!!!!!🤣
Dude you're just being a dick, Motion RC Servos are JUNK! RedBeard is doing just fine!
@@redbeardreviewsrc I don’t understand his hostility. Keyboard warrior I guess.
@@toanthai I hope you mean hostility on their part not mine!
@@redbeardreviewsrc
haha yeah.
I’m so sorry bruh, dang
Thanks! & Thanks for watching and commenting!
Definitely a tip stall, according to all the you tube experts it’s always a tip stall ! Only kidding.
LOL! Exactly!! Thank you for the laugh & for watching and commenting!
As an old modeller, I feel sorry for what you must have felt when you saw the model crash to the ground and you couldn't do anything.
But this is what is sick in modern modeling.
We buy models, not build them. Then we fly them, believing somewhere in the subconscious that those people also have our mentality of modellers. No, they are not, and often do not understand very much what they are doing.
And then surprise, because one small screw, worth 0.2 cents, failed.
Because her daughter called the lady installing the screw in your model that the dog had just pooped on the couch ... And she - instead of screwing it in - waved the screwdriver explaining to her how to remove what the dog had shattered. And this is the screw that locked your servo pusher and smashed the model.
Can you make a complaint? Oh no. Because you can't prove that this lady's dog got shit.
Okay - I'm just kidding because they're actually not allowed to talk while they work. But they have big deficiencies in CORRECT AND COMPLETE quality control. These are different standards. There, several parameters are measured and it is assumed that if it is on, it is OK. This is not what it is.
But also this is all our modeling is worth, if you trust too much serial production, which has a certain accuracy and COST SAVINGS, you do not look carefully through the entire model and do not change what looks suspiciously easy or cheap. Or you just won't build yours from scratch.
So that there would be no unnecessary thoughts - I also have such models and I also fly with them. Because I didn't have anywhere to make them, for example.
But I check every rivet, every screw and soldering. Never believe Chinese quality.
I have been flying models for 40 years and have never had such a failure. Guess why?
Wise words sir! I agree 100%! Thank you for watching and commenting! And for the dog poop story as well, I needed a laugh! I dont usually ask but, since you are clearly quite knowledgeable, do you have any review recommendations? Cheers!
Motion RC Servos SUCK! I have better luck using the Servos Flite Test has in their Power Packs
I'll check 'em out! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Usually, hobby product is just that, hobby only! So quality isn't something to look for from a hobby product. When something not work, fix it or get around it, that is part of fun... If the quality is really bad beyond repairable, move on to different brands...
Just my 2c, after encountering numerous issues with various hobby stuff...
Thanks for watching
ill never buy anything from motion rc again as well bc the landing gears are complete garbage. FMS has never done me wrong, the quality between the two is night and day
Though motion is improving, I agree about the quality difference. Thank you for watching and commenting!
The survos are better Eflight or Spektrum never had a problem with motion rc
Glad you had good luck! Thanks for watching!
they need to improve their servos ,they charging more now expect better quality servos from them and their blue box fails to.
Have heard the blue box is a nightmare! I completely agree about their prices!!
Every Motion RC video I've seen, the presenters all come off as smug to me.
Hope you mean them and not me!
@@redbeardreviewsrc no not you, lol. I meant on the Motion RC UA-cam channel.
@@papapsadventures6119 Glad to hear brother! I'm pretty salty with them but still trying to be fair...... hope it comes across that way! Thank you for watching and commenting!
probably drive bmw too
Flightline is just Freewing's warbird brand.
Good info, thank you!
More motion commotion! Sorry man.
YUP GETTING MOTION SICKNESS🤢 Thanks bro!
I can’t believe you did a perfect inverted high speed pass and then climbed inverted and you jammed the elevator. There must be a reason I have never seen a inverted P-38 fighter even with all the WW 2 combat footage that is available do this maneuver.
I haven't seen it either from a real one. Thats why i love to fly warbirds...... To do things i want to see them do! I have the old Blitz rc P-38 and did it often with that model. Still heartbroken over this beautiful example being ruined by a mundane maneuver I have done many times. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Spectrum......
They a no go for you? Thanks for watchin and commenting!!