5 Travel Rules Everyone Gets WRONG

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  • @GetHandles
    @GetHandles  Рік тому +5

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    • @嵐林-o4j
      @嵐林-o4j 9 місяців тому +1

      If I raise my pivot foot off the ground and hop single-legged with my another foot, will that be a violation of the rules?

    •  Місяць тому

      Bro, you're so wrong and it's actually sad. IDK why or how we've gotten to this place where the rules are SO SO poorly misinterpreted but even in the NBA what you guys call a "step through" is technically traveling or should I say was traveling until a re-interpretation and alteration of the language in 2009 but also multiple times before that but all coming since the 70s-90s. The two step gather used to be a two-count rhythm meaning you had two "quick" seconds to stop not three steps or a ZERO step plus two. The point of dribbling and traveling is the offense isn't supposed to be able to just Derrick Henry truck stick from the top of the key. Anyone who knows anything about basketball starting in the 50s-late 70s knows no one was taking that extra step or even two occasionally and it's not because they didn't understand the rules. There is a reason why all the two-count rhythm language ALL involves the verbiage PROGRESSING because it's someone in a sprint or high energy run towards their basket. It's not meant for someone to jab step in and take two steps backwards to take a 3 or for someone who loses their dribble to good defense to be able to create ANOTHER pivot foot. A pivot foot is meant to be ONE foot, not two because although you can't out your first pivot foot back down technically as long as you don't actually place it back down you can use off foot as another pivot foot basically losing all meaning. I get it for you and your angle. I already know what you're goingt to say if you say anything but this is one fact you got wrong, when I was a kid in the late 80s early 90s the rules that the high school and under refs used were NOT these unlimited step rules and it wasn't because 100% of people were stupid or ignorant.
      A player who gathers the ball while PROGRESSING may take (1) two steps"two-count rhythm"in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball, or (2) if he has not yet dribbled, one step prior to releasing the ball.
      A player who gathers the ball while dribbling may take two steps "two-count rhythm" in coming to a stop, passing, or shooting the ball.
      The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.
      The second step occurs after the first step when the other foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously.
      A player who comes to a stop on step one when both feet are on the floor or touch the floor simultaneously may pivot using either foot as his pivot. If he jumps with both feet he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor.
      A player who lands with one foot first may only pivot using that foot.
      A progressing player who jumps off one foot on the first step may land with both feet simultaneously for the second step. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot and if one or both feet leave the floor the ball must be released before either returns to the floor.
      In starting a dribble after (1) receiving the ball while standing still, or (2) coming to a legal stop, the ball must be out of the player’s hand before the pivot foot is raised off the floor.

  • @jedhai2171
    @jedhai2171 2 роки тому +63

    There is only one rule that matters, and every other "basketball" move derives from it. It is the rule that is called out in the video " If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor." This defines a legal layup, a legal jump shot, a legal spin move, a legal up and under, a legal hop step, EVERYTHING. Anyone saying different has not read the rule book.

    • @normanbfifteen3468
      @normanbfifteen3468 10 місяців тому +1

      What rule book are you taking this from?

    • @ep3389
      @ep3389 9 місяців тому +11

      So I can catch the ball on the wing with my back to the basket pivot around on my left foot, then take a huge step forward with my non pivot, lift my pivot off the ground and then use my non pivot to jump even closer without dribbling. Geez I could get 15 feet without even dribbling.

    • @jedhai2171
      @jedhai2171 9 місяців тому +5

      Yes. You absolutely can

    • @P4lach0r
      @P4lach0r 9 місяців тому

      You are dead wrong... twice. There are 3 separate traveling violations you could commit, that have nothing to do with each other and are explained separately: 1) number of steps; 2) hop steps (left to left, right to right foot or bunny hop); 3) wrong pivot. You are pivoting the second your both feet are in contact with the floor, if after gathering u land on one and step with 2nd, while first is on the floor - the first is your pivot, if u lend on both u got to pick your pivot. You establish your pivot foot by lifting the other and start stepping around, in your misguided interpretation lifting your pivot with other on the ground now establishes the other as 2nd pivot foot... and rules specifically say you can't reestablish your pivot foot.What(the most misunderstood ever)rule means is its not a travel if u leap. So you are wrong on both 2 and 3. And u r just wrong but the dumbass in the video is a criminal😡

    • @tsujimasen
      @tsujimasen 9 місяців тому +3

      @@normanbfifteen3468 Every level has this rule. HS, College, NBA, FIBA. Just look up your local community's rule set under pivot foot.

  • @Bryson-yj4gh
    @Bryson-yj4gh Рік тому +5

    I’m a steps while floating the ball player. I was wanting to show my parents that I just have good foot work and your vid came in clutch! 🔥

  • @victoriacollins3618
    @victoriacollins3618 3 роки тому +9

    Love learning the rules, your videos helped me join the basketball team in my middle school

  • @bartsimpson7414
    @bartsimpson7414 8 місяців тому +4

    Very well explained! As an ex-player, coach (who has an officials cert), I think a big problem with calling the "gather" and "step Back" or what fans see, is that many younger players don't strong legal cross-overs and/or carry the ball. This makes the "gather", "step back", and "euro" look bad and actually turns a legal move into a travel. Great explanation though!

  • @sharjeelmirza7890
    @sharjeelmirza7890 3 роки тому +20

    Love learning about the rules, keep these videos going coach🙌🏼

  • @kirkroywhite
    @kirkroywhite 5 місяців тому +6

    You didn’t go over lifting your pivot foot before starting a dribble. That’s the most misunderstood rule

    • @tat3998
      @tat3998 3 місяці тому +1

      You can’t do it

  • @Azn.P3rsuasian
    @Azn.P3rsuasian 3 місяці тому +1

    @ 4:05 if you have gather down already, that counts as your first step doesn't it?
    1. The first step occurs when a foot, or both feet, touch the floor after gaining control of the ball.
    2. The second step occurs after the first step when the other foot touches the floor, or both feet touch the floor simultaneously.

    • @parxjohnson2483
      @parxjohnson2483 Місяць тому

      It says after, so if the foot is already down when you gather, then that step came before the gather

  • @SuperReyand
    @SuperReyand 7 місяців тому +3

    03:56 "my hands are sweaty" - small hands :)

  • @LovinBS
    @LovinBS Рік тому +1

    The piviot foot part helped me a lot. Thanks

  • @Mike-19940
    @Mike-19940 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the clarification, much needed for me!

  • @lanced1265
    @lanced1265 Рік тому +4

    On that last one, I think you run the risk of when the ref determines you’ve gathered the ball. That one move had six steps. If the ref felt you gathered on the first three, but not the fourth, you’d get a travel call. It’s all happening so quickly.

    • @ArroyoRiver
      @ArroyoRiver Рік тому

      Then learn to be a ref instead of picking apart a yt video. Anybody can watch and complain. What the video says makes sense.

  • @EmptyJarDoto
    @EmptyJarDoto Рік тому +2

    Found this completely accidentally and it confirms what I thought I knew. As a kid I used to train basketball with a coach in a sports school. But during high school games the ref was calling out my shots after pivoting as travel and I felt like a schizo because everyone kept saying I was wrong and I travelled multiple times per game, even though it felt so natural to me from way back. I really have no idea where this stupid notion that you can't lift your pivot foot or you have to always jump off both feet comes from.

    • @Zaeuh214
      @Zaeuh214 Рік тому

      Mandela effect, cuz I thought so too.

  • @sabahbubbler
    @sabahbubbler 3 роки тому +3

    That is so hard to see with high level plays.
    Zero step is if the foot is down before you gather. In NBA, other than slo mo, it's very hard for me as normal person to see if the foot is down first or was it the hand that gather first

    • @kksprstn6186
      @kksprstn6186 2 роки тому

      just look at when they end their dribble and check what foot is on the floor, then the next step would always be the first of the two steps.

  • @stephenantonio3713
    @stephenantonio3713 27 днів тому

    Once you establish your pivot, you can only lift it to jump. It's traveling if you lift it to take a step with the opposite foot..

  • @kidsgamingbank5912
    @kidsgamingbank5912 3 роки тому +4

    Thnx coach ☺️

  • @jessedh4
    @jessedh4 9 місяців тому

    One thing about the last thing he talks about here is the rule is a little vague. Doesn't say when dribble is ended but when ball is controlled or stops. So...like pinned to your body or seemingly other ways the ball stops moving. There is an interpretation of the rules that would then kill a lot of the really aggressive step backs you see lately

  • @kimlouie8687
    @kimlouie8687 3 роки тому +8

    2:08 lol my younger brother always call me travelling when doing this move, now I have a legit reference from a legit coach! Haha Thanks coach🙏

    • @bernardwade8096
      @bernardwade8096 7 місяців тому +3

      Younger brother right coach got this one wrong the rule is if you haven't dribble yet you can do it.

    • @javee-th5no
      @javee-th5no 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@bernardwade8096.. That's a TRAVEL! YOUNGER BRO GOT IT RIGHT, U CAN'T LIFT UR PIVOT FOOT OF GROUND IN WHICH CASE HE DOES!

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому

      ​@@bernardwade8096what?

    • @vassilisxerikos3908
      @vassilisxerikos3908 18 днів тому

      @@kimlouie8687 what he shows is called a travel every single time under fiba-Euroleague rules. 100% travel.

  • @StreetballStrategies
    @StreetballStrategies 3 роки тому +39

    I find it so odd when players get obsessed by the rules. The bottom line is: do you get an unfair advantage or not. As simply demonstrated in this video, as long as you follow the rules, the game remains fair. 👍🏼

    • @joshuadity
      @joshuadity 2 роки тому +3

      Hey Idk u but Jesus Christ loves u acts 238 and upci church locator for a church type that on the Internet and

    • @kiwavy
      @kiwavy 2 роки тому +14

      Learning the rules is essential to understanding the game…what kind of dumb comment is this, nothing “odd” about it

    • @josephmaurer6620
      @josephmaurer6620 Рік тому +3

      @streetball Your comment makes no sense. You say, “it’s odd when players get obsessed by the rules” and then you later say “as long as you follow the rules.”
      You need to know the rules to follow the rules.

    • @StreetballStrategies
      @StreetballStrategies Рік тому

      @@josephmaurer6620 Why do I have to explain the difference between generally understanding something and being obsessed with it?
      There are way more rules to basketball than just traveling, double dribbling, and fouling. But you don’t need to memorize the referees’ handbook in order to play, compete, and enjoy basketball.
      Did you read every word of the UA-cam terms of service before using this platform? No, because you’re not obsessed with adhering to Google’s rules. You’re just going to participate like any other decent, fair user.
      Get the difference?

    • @cg1885
      @cg1885 Рік тому +1

      “…odd when players get obsessed by the rules… As long as you follow rules, the game remains fair.”
      How are you going to follow rules if you don’t know it?

  • @HungrySharkie
    @HungrySharkie 3 роки тому +2

    It's about time for some merch coach. When are you gonna make custom basketballs?

    • @GetHandles
      @GetHandles  3 роки тому +1

      🤔 I'd have to put some thought into that

  • @batomatovic6286
    @batomatovic6286 3 місяці тому +1

    Once the offensive player has established a pivot foot, he may move his other foot as many times as he likes, but the ball must be out of his hands to start his dribble, before he lifts his pivot foot off the floor. rules from Europe

  • @sjn0202
    @sjn0202 11 місяців тому +4

    So now we can jump out of traps off our pivot, land on the free foot, jump off of that, and pass. haha

    • @takezomiyamoto1390
      @takezomiyamoto1390 9 місяців тому +4

      the pivot foot is always the first step
      the foot you move around with, is always the second
      you can totally jump off the SECOND step.
      steps are only counted as you plant your feet on the ground, not as you lift them.

    • @sanzcb4
      @sanzcb4 Місяць тому

      even better, you can shoot the ball!!!!

  • @willstevenson3908
    @willstevenson3908 2 місяці тому

    I dont think bringing your pivot foot back down is a travel on the 2 step rule. It is not actually considered a step until the opposite foot comes off of the ground. Its like doing a jab step yes you are taking a step but until you lift that opposite foot up you still have 2 steps. So taking your 2 steps and allowing your pivot to land for the 3rd would not be a travel if you dont move that 2nd step and pivot on it

  • @rjcinco6098
    @rjcinco6098 3 місяці тому +1

    What about when dribbling and jump on 1 foot and lands with the same is that a travel?

    • @GetHandles
      @GetHandles  3 місяці тому +2

      If the dribble is still alive while doing it then it's legal.

  • @narutofan2010san
    @narutofan2010san Рік тому

    He did not travel. During the turnaround, his dribble was still alive. He picked up the ball while his feet were on the ground. He did not catch the ball in the air and landed with it. Therefore, 1. he hasn’t established a pivot yet 2. He can take two steps any direction. After he gathered the ball, his right foot going back was step 1. The left one afterwards was step 2. Then he jumped. It is just like a layup or an euro step backwards. There is no gather step involved since he stopped on both feet before picking up his dribble

  • @TheTanoaholima
    @TheTanoaholima 9 місяців тому +1

    Only a travel if the pivot foot makes contact with ground and is still holding the ball.

    • @ziginaigra
      @ziginaigra 2 місяці тому

      so u get the ball in post and u can do step through (without dribbling once)and that is not a travel?😂

  • @deankirkpatrick7658
    @deankirkpatrick7658 Рік тому

    Ending the dribble - there is no gather step within the rules, it is when the dribble ends. With that in mind, I see nothing wrong with his explanation, though most youth and high school players will not end the dribble in mid air, they usually end the dribble just prior to lifting both feet. However, you also need to remember, the foot you land on is now the pivot foot, if that is lifted and then set back on the floor, it is traveling. Basic rule, you cannot lift the pivot foot and return it to the floor without dribbling (legally), Passing, or attempting a try.

  • @alexlanza79
    @alexlanza79 3 місяці тому

    Really great video very well explained, much better than other videos on youtube but still I hear stuff which is either not consistent with actual rules or incomplete, I'm just a basketball fan but to me these 2 things are clear as the sun!
    At 1:08 you say that the truth is in between actually the NBA rule states that "A player who gathers the ball while progressing may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball or if he has not yet dribbled, one step prior to releasing the ball to start his dribble." so there are no interpretations, one can take only TWO steps after he gathered the ball, period end of story!!!!
    Then at the end of the video you say that one can take as many steps as he wants while the ball is floating and the count starts when is gathered, which is true but you failed to mention that if the rotation of the ball is stopped it's a carry "A player who is dribbling may not put any part of his hand under the ball and carry it from one point to another or bring it to a pause and then continue to dribble again." I think is very important to understand the "or bring it to a pause" so it's not a travel but if the rotation of the ball is stopped while the dribbling the ball a carry should be called which isn't and unfortunately it's the main reason why it appears that today's players are more skilled when actually most of the times they are carring the ball during the dribbles so they are not more skilled they are more slick or referees don't worry about carry violations!
    Also on this video Giannis is taking the ball from the 3 point line of his side of the court, bounce the ball one time and take a total of 10 steps, no calls, to me it's a travel, what do you think! (ua-cam.com/video/KafEc2bR_OM/v-deo.html)

  • @sanzcb4
    @sanzcb4 Місяць тому

    Based on this, if I am at the 3-point line, stop dribbling, and start pivoting around on one foot, then I can take an extra long step in any direction with the non-pivoting foot, keep the pivot in the air, and shoot the ball while standing on one leg.

    • @GetHandles
      @GetHandles  Місяць тому

      Yes. That's correct. There's training videos for refs from high school organizations showing examples of similar plays to what you're describing, and it's legal

  • @shadowstorm2230
    @shadowstorm2230 2 місяці тому

    Is doing a "step-thru" backwards legal? Example establish post with locked dribbling, person steps backwards for a fade with non pivot foot and lifts pivot foot in the process.

  • @xzavierholmes7169
    @xzavierholmes7169 9 місяців тому +1

    I just looked the rules up. I thought that was travel, but it's not. Crazy

  • @wtfyoumeaninvalid
    @wtfyoumeaninvalid Рік тому +1

    so if you stop and establish your pivot on your second step, wouldnt the next step be your third step?

    • @egrolb0i13
      @egrolb0i13 Рік тому

      your first step is your pivot foot

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому

      Only if you take a 3rd step. If you lift your pivot but don't put it back down it is not a step.

  • @mikeycoolx
    @mikeycoolx Рік тому +1

    If i dribble to the basket stop for three seconds and spin around on my pivot foot am i able to take one step to try to get passed the defender or is it travel?

  • @Chandasouk
    @Chandasouk 3 роки тому +1

    Jealous of the weather you have where you're at. We only got highs of 50s now lol

    • @demanrtp
      @demanrtp 3 роки тому

      Bro, here in NJ we literally in low 40s

    • @Chandasouk
      @Chandasouk 3 роки тому +1

      @@demanrtp yeah that shit is ass. You must be from up north then.

    • @demanrtp
      @demanrtp 3 роки тому

      @@Chandasouk yea :/

  • @PRIYANSHUSINGH-yq1yc
    @PRIYANSHUSINGH-yq1yc 3 роки тому +2

    Nice knowledge

  • @yasirzahid6837
    @yasirzahid6837 3 роки тому

    Upload a video on how to improve the jump

  • @nundata
    @nundata Рік тому +1

    fully agree with everything but just the last one is wrong. rules say ball is gathered when any part of hand goes under the ball. that doesnt mean whole hand has to be in the bottom of the ball. any part of hand means that whole hand have to be in top part of the ball. one finger going over the line that would split the ball in half - you already gathered. that is the reason 60s and 70s dribbles looked weird by todays standards - but actually they were correct and very hard to do. its much harder following the rules precisely and still make a fast dribble compared to these dribbles nowadays that everyone can do because referees allow the hand to be on side of the ball...

  • @WordOfYah
    @WordOfYah 3 роки тому

    How do I find a balance between scoring and passing? Right now I’m the only one playmaking on my team and getting no passes towards me or any points in return. While I’m on the court we seem to be performing much better since everyone else is either shy or a ball hogger. Should I keep playing how I am, a pure playmaker? What makes it worse is that in our league they don’t count assists, blocks or rebounds so I come to practice the next day looking like a didn’t contribute at all.

  • @andybritishairways9427
    @andybritishairways9427 2 роки тому

    Hi coach . Regarding the first part of the video. When you lift the pivot foot can you then jump off the other foot and release the ball before landing. I'm trying to find a definitive answer to whether the STEP THROUGH move is legal. Often people will pivot then jump off pivot onto non pivot foot then jump again off non pivot and release ball before landing

    • @tsujimasen
      @tsujimasen 9 місяців тому +1

      There's nothing in the rules that governs your non-pivot foot's movement, except for the hop rule.
      NBA Rule 10 Section XIII Paragraph h. Upon ending his dribble or gaining control of the ball, a player may not touch the floor consecutively with the same foot (hop).

  • @tomekszymczewski3301
    @tomekszymczewski3301 9 місяців тому +1

    This lifting pivot foot is also in FIBA rules or just in NBA ?

  • @JesusRodriguez-56
    @JesusRodriguez-56 4 місяці тому

    Can you please brake down why the luka and ant man move where he takes the steps and completely stops in one leg so the opponent flys by please and thank you

  • @abdodz4295
    @abdodz4295 3 роки тому +2

    Thnks men🤩🤩❤

  • @SirLuke007
    @SirLuke007 6 місяців тому +1

    I’m one of the ones who haven’t wanted to acknowledge it for a while… then this guy kept beating my ass at the park with this gather step. I don’t call fouls or travels so I can focus on the skill but after that I was like nahhhhh I’m going learn the rules. It’s really not too hard to understand
    Thanks

  • @xBulletproof1
    @xBulletproof1 Рік тому +1

    It's killing me reading these comments. You're explaining it perfectly, and within the rules and people are still arguing. 🤣 The only thing you could have done different is edit in the rules where they apply. Sheesh.

  • @peteranders7106
    @peteranders7106 9 місяців тому

    Tristan Jass picks up his pivot foot first then makes contact with the right foot before jumping off his right foot. That is a third step and illegal. Please explain it to the kids. Once you pick up your pivot foot, the other foot can't make contact either. They are under the impression that "then pivot foot my be released and it is not traveling until it comes back down" means that you can still step on the other foot. So they think this is legal: Step 1 establish pivot, step 2 pump fake, then you can release your pivot as you hop onto right leg for step 3 and then score. And they point to the rule saying as long as the pivot foot doesn't come back down it is legal. They ignore the prior rules here and call it clean.
    They also say McHale, Jordan, Kobe, Hakeem etc. did this all the time, which they did not.
    They are missing the distinction between putting your non pivot foot down and then releasing your pivot foot after like you showed here and what Tristan does, which is releasing his pivot foot, before the other foot makes contact for a third step. They also call everone else names that disagrees with them and explains why it is a travel.
    Please come over to one of those Tristan videos and tell everyone there, you may not essentially establish your pivot, take another step, then hop right to right as you release your pivot and then come down on said rifht with the pivot released and in the air and then jump once more of the right. It's only a pivot, if your pivot foot is still on the ground. They just will not accept this.
    Please help set the record straight. They are bringing you up as a guy that says Tristans footwork is clean and it is not a travel. Nothing in your video is wrong, but there is also nothing in your video saying you can still make a step after the pivot foot is released, which is what Tristan is doing.
    One of the shorts is called: was this a travel or clean. You should be able to find that video and make a response that will drive hundreds of thousands of people right to your channel. Please do that. 😂

  • @JoeCnNd
    @JoeCnNd 2 роки тому +3

    So if you lift your pivot can you just stand there with your foot in the air and still be good?

    • @maziastro9932
      @maziastro9932 2 роки тому

      I think it should be fluid ( just like a layup )

    • @animegoatforever2571
      @animegoatforever2571 Рік тому +1

      Yes but what’s the point? You’re just going to look like an idiot while the defense blocks or takes the ball. Also, you’d probably lose your balance and end up traveling anyway. 😂

    • @rob0matic
      @rob0matic 8 місяців тому

      this is what he didnt explain very thoroughly or gave a poor example. The rules define it as a progressing player may lift his pivot foot with the intention to score or pass. In his example NO you cannot just sit there and pivot around aimlessly for 10 seconds then lift your pivot. It would be a three second violation anyway if you were in the paint. You have to be looking to score or pass if locked down by good defense.

  • @ArmandoKozomara
    @ArmandoKozomara 9 місяців тому

    I used to think this was travel but it's defnitely not. Look up any ref/travel rule video. It's legal. Imagine posting up like a Dirk fadeaway and turning over your right shoulder towards the baseline so your right foot is the pivot, and then you step back to fade on your left foot lifting your pivot/right foot as you're fading back shooting a one legged fadeaway. Same concept, it's just stepping away from the basket instead of stepping through towards the basket.

    • @rob0matic
      @rob0matic 8 місяців тому

      terrible example and no he didnt do that

  • @keviniskandar7605
    @keviniskandar7605 3 роки тому +1

    Hello coach i’ve been watching you since i was a kid and learned alot thanks to you...
    bcz of some circumstances(injuries and economic problems)i stopped basketball for a long time now..
    If you can help me with dribbling and shooting and finishing videos for a come back please it would be great Thank youu

  • @lucysunbeam1332
    @lucysunbeam1332 4 місяці тому

    Regarding the zero step plus 2 more... that's an NBA rule. It is not a high school or college rule. And people typically don't play NBA rules in pickup basketball.

  • @shawwtypimp
    @shawwtypimp 6 місяців тому

    There is no pivot foot when gather stepping

  • @suryanaik3991
    @suryanaik3991 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome thanks

  • @jdramirez77
    @jdramirez77 Рік тому +4

    I'm pleased to say I learned nothing.

  • @bigGyan21
    @bigGyan21 2 роки тому +1

    Wonder why I don't see these moves in the nba anymore?

  • @The_Gunner9
    @The_Gunner9 9 місяців тому +1

    That is not a travel per nba rules. That would only be a travel if after he picked up the pivot he didn’t shoot or pass and landed back on his pivot foot. You can pick up your pivot tho!!!

  • @jonathanpaghubasan1863
    @jonathanpaghubasan1863 Рік тому

    how about the ball came from the rebound or pass why focus only on dribble?

  • @FHtmOfficial
    @FHtmOfficial 2 роки тому +2

    Hello, does the gather/zero step only exist in NBA or it's like general ??

    • @Whirllllll
      @Whirllllll 2 роки тому

      Only NBA collage will most likely be called

    • @kksprstn6186
      @kksprstn6186 2 роки тому +1

      @@Whirllllll nah, it is everywhere, it just being called gather or zero step now. It is a basic fundamental, if you gather the ball with two hands or you stop dribbling, whatever foot is on the floor would be what you call now a gather or zero step, so it exist even the early basketball years. It just happened that players are evolving, instead of picking the ball where their foot is behind where they pick up the ball, they pick the ball where the front foot is forward to off the timing of the defender, where other is counting it as a step when it reality it is not, and now they called it gather step.

    • @Crnicelad
      @Crnicelad 2 роки тому

      FIBA, NBA, NCAA this rule is the same on all levels.

    • @PhantomofDB
      @PhantomofDB Рік тому

      The gather step was added to the nba rule book in 2009. It was said to be a “clarification” but prior to that it wasn’t really called that way

  • @plaxmaa2ndchannel195
    @plaxmaa2ndchannel195 2 роки тому

    I did a hop step and after that I did under hand lay up and my friend said it's a travel

  • @Pitchoo973
    @Pitchoo973 9 місяців тому

    I disagree, ok let's say you pivot on your right foot, you say you have the right to do a shot/pass as long as your right foot (pivot) does not land on the ground right ? So in this case, if I pivot again with my left foot and making my right foot levitating ? So you have infinite time to do your pass and shot since your right foot it's not on the ground

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes. You can stand on one foot for as long as you want. As long as your pivot foot doesn't come back down before shooting or passing.

  • @InfiniteQuest86
    @InfiniteQuest86 Рік тому +2

    Yeah NFHS refs need to see this. They think lifting the pivot is a travel. I'll admit it does look weird when you do it and pass, but you can do it.

  • @tarakan773
    @tarakan773 3 роки тому

    Hi
    Can u make a video example about famble?

  • @ungree
    @ungree 2 роки тому +2

    right foot jab, to start dribbling going right; i see this get called a lot in rec leagues for lifting the left foot(pivot).
    i was told i couldn't move/lift my pivot foot for a dribble
    and that you are only allowed to lift your pivot for a Shot or a Pass.
    so wouldn't the shimmy be a travel every time???

    • @Crnicelad
      @Crnicelad 2 роки тому +2

      Yes this can be problematic, if you jab right you are already extended and you usually lift your pivot foot from that position before you release the ball - that is why often times travels get called. But if you are able to release the ball before you lift the back foot it is clean every time.
      And yes, you are allowed to lift your pivot foot only to pass/shoot, not when starting a dribble from a standstill - both FIBA & NBA rules.
      While starting your dribble when on the move i.e. after receiving a pass, you do get that leniency of 1 (0) step before you drop the ball.

  • @iov-art
    @iov-art 2 роки тому

    You're coaches and refs thought you the right way.
    Pivoting and layups are two different things!
    When you are pivoting, you stop and then "pivot".
    Layup is a continuous motion, you don't stop. You catch the ball in progression/movement, make steps and jump, or dribble, catch the ball, make steps and then jump - you don't stop in layups!
    There is NO pivot in layups!
    When you are pivoting you can jump from the pivot foot(not exactly but similar with Dirk Nowitzki signature move) or jump from both feet.
    In pivoting you can do only one step. After you enter in pivoting mode you have one foot touching the floor all the time (the pivot) and one foot lifting and touching the floor, stepping. So you are resetting steps from zero to one step while pivoting.
    When you lift your pivot foot you are starting second step. Resulting in pivot rule violation!

    • @GetHandles
      @GetHandles  2 роки тому +1

      That is not what is stated in any rulebook. Look it up in some rulebooks if you don't believe me. I used to think the same thing as you until I actually read them.

    • @Biggiiful
      @Biggiiful Рік тому

      You're just wrong dude. Every Dirk one legged fadeaway would be a travel then. As he lifts up his pivot foot. Dirk usually turns over his right shoulder to shoot off his left foot. Pivots off his right ...steps back onto his left....and his right foot/pivot foot lifts up to shield him from the defender. A layup does not have a "pivot" foot but it has two legal steps. A pivot foot is step one of two legal steps. Lifting the pivot is NOT a travel. Putting it down with the ball still in you're hands is.

  • @zuzixxx1298
    @zuzixxx1298 2 роки тому

    Hi! I'm writing because I have a problem with crossovers. I know them very well, but during the game I am afraid to use them. can I ask for any advice?

    • @ozanoz2489
      @ozanoz2489 2 роки тому +1

      You can do crossovers when you play with your friends so that you can get use to them

  • @gohands3119
    @gohands3119 Місяць тому

    Does dribbling steps don't count in NBA too?

  • @reunion_k9375
    @reunion_k9375 8 місяців тому +2

    4:17 then what is the differents between travel and carry ? I gathered the Ball and make more steps that carrying the Ball not Traveling or am a wrong ?
    When does the travel start ?

    • @MoonManPictures
      @MoonManPictures 6 місяців тому

      Apparently you can dance across the whole court ?

    • @asioniolbc
      @asioniolbc 4 місяці тому +1

      Carrying violation is somewhere in between travel and double dribble. It’s when your hand goes under the ball, (which ends your dribble) then you resume dribbling. During the floating dribble, all is legal if you keep your hand on top of the ball, keeping your dribble active. A lot of times people carry during the floating dribble, ending their legal dribble too early and causing them to travel unintentionally.

  • @heenrytop3
    @heenrytop3 3 роки тому

    So can i use these tips in Pick up games or in my league? Or not, because its just arguing with people and not have fun of game

    • @Krittin0
      @Krittin0 2 роки тому +2

      Well it depends on the court and who's there as well. But as a referee for 5 years I think home courts really don't work well when it comes to travelling, many yip-yaps from defenders who are just rubbish and trash talking there.

  • @antieverything1
    @antieverything1 Рік тому

    It isn't just that high school refs don't understand the gather/zero step--it is that the rule literally doesn't exist at that level. It exists in NBA and FIBA only...so every level outside of the US but not in NCAA, High School (although rulebooks vary so I can't speak to all of them) or any other level of amateur play in the United States. I agree that it is a good rule because it standardizes and codifies players' ability to do things that haven't been called travels for half a century or more that are still technically a travel under the rules (most fast break layups or dunks are travels by the letter of the law but refs rightly don't enforce things that tightly).

  • @jackdaniels2905
    @jackdaniels2905 8 місяців тому

    Explain jump stop.

  • @CameronFord-r7n
    @CameronFord-r7n Місяць тому

    Illegal, your pivot foot hit the ground after you picked it up before you shot

  • @JoeCnNd
    @JoeCnNd 2 роки тому +2

    It's not that we're getting it wrong. It's the the nba got laxed on traveling and let it happen to make the nba more interesting.

  • @robparanoia269
    @robparanoia269 7 місяців тому

    that unlimited steps between dribbles is the culprit

  • @JesusRodriguez-56
    @JesusRodriguez-56 4 місяці тому

    I have a question

  • @donaldgump9617
    @donaldgump9617 6 місяців тому +1

    All this would and was called in older era basketball. Go watch how players would barely turn the ball over and get a palming violation. All these new rules require much less skill but look nice. But yeah older generations wouldn’t get away with any of this. New era all day

  • @tbtrey1
    @tbtrey1 7 місяців тому

    Just abolish the gather step. Creates an unfair advantage for the offensive player and it’s not easy for the ref to distinguish in real time. It’s nothing anyone had been taught and it has to be relatively new because you see a lot of euro looking layups and stuff got called traveling in 80/90’s videos

    • @theYoutubememe
      @theYoutubememe 7 місяців тому

      Agreed, but if everyone knows gather steps everyone will have distinct advantage.

  • @ibrahimnathaniell
    @ibrahimnathaniell 6 місяців тому

    the last rule is what caused NBA players to start glitching hahaha. People like Harden, steph curry went crazy with it

  • @0rangeSpaceMonkey
    @0rangeSpaceMonkey 25 днів тому

    Gather step was not recognized until 2009.in the NBA for all of the people saying it had always been a rule. No it wasnt.

  • @JonadanandtheFreaks
    @JonadanandtheFreaks Рік тому

    Referees now blow the whistle for those little steps before a step back for exemple. Harden can't do that thing no more

  • @Adshue
    @Adshue 8 місяців тому +1

    Those who say travel should just go read fiba and nba rulebook

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому

      They obviously can't read.

  • @itsvain
    @itsvain 2 роки тому +1

    The problem is this the rule says you must pass or shoot when you lift your pivot foot.. in the step through move you are stepping it’s nether a pass or a shot it’s a step so that would make it a violation… you 1) stop your dribble 2) establish a pivot foot 3) step. 4) shoot …….. like I said the rule says you can only shoot or pass I never says you can step off your pivot foot… that would be changing pivot foots which is a travel… and lastly it says when dribbling the ball mud release from your hand before leaving your pivot foot.. so how come you can’t take a step before dribbling? Wouldn’t that More coincide with the rule? Also it says in the rule book if you take a 1 step, then your second step is two feet you can not pivot you can only pass or shoot!! Sounds similar doesn’t it…

    • @PedroMendes25CC
      @PedroMendes25CC 2 роки тому +2

      Doesn't say you can't step either. Plus what the rule actually states is that you must pass or shoot before the pivot returns to the floor. Don't have to shoot immediately. The video correctly shows that a layup has the same interpretation. There are multiple videos with officials/from various leagues all saying its legal.

    • @xBulletproof1
      @xBulletproof1 Рік тому

      I stopped reading about half way through this ..... but no, it says you must shoot or pass before that pivot foot touches the ground again. If you use your off foot to jump, you're doing exactly that, releasing the ball before the pivot foot touches the ground again. Which makes perfect sense. Imagine a guy getting called for travel on a jump shot, because his pivot foot left the ground 0.1 second before the other foot. It would be asinine trying to police which foot left the ground first all the time.

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому

      You people are re re.

  • @some-other-time
    @some-other-time Рік тому

    Thanks for your videos. I have a related question:Say I receive a pass with both feet on the ground. Can I, after a delay (say a couple seconds) take my two steps toward the basket without having dribbled?

  • @ron88303
    @ron88303 7 місяців тому

    The old rules were simpler ... and better.

  • @nickchoporis5901
    @nickchoporis5901 4 місяці тому

    There is no such thing as ' floating ' ...
    Palm must remain ON TOP of the ball.
    Definition of ' dribble ' ...

  • @COOLSAUCE21
    @COOLSAUCE21 3 роки тому

    Next do carry rules.. it's one more thing everyone is confused about.

  • @logicalblackman8228
    @logicalblackman8228 9 місяців тому

    I think it’s a travel, no matter what if you lift your pivot foot.

  • @mychaelsmith6874
    @mychaelsmith6874 11 місяців тому

    If you pick up your dribble while your foot is already on the ground, that is your pivot foot unless you're one of the best players in the world playing in an NBA/FIBA game.

    • @IliaSuchcow
      @IliaSuchcow 3 місяці тому +1

      But if you wrote bullshit, it's always bullshit no matter who you are ;) Fiba/hooiba

  • @Enigmatic2099
    @Enigmatic2099 Рік тому +2

    This guy gets it, I hate arguing with stupid people that don’t know the rules

  • @SentoX1601
    @SentoX1601 3 роки тому +1

    Vietsub please !🤔

  • @worldsempire9890
    @worldsempire9890 5 місяців тому

    The step through is a travel. When the other foot is lifted and replanted that is establishing another pivot. Im calling that a travel because if you extend the logic you can think of some pretty ridiculous things that would be legal.

    • @worldsempire9890
      @worldsempire9890 5 місяців тому

      I could jump from the three point line off my one leg pivot to almost inside the paint then jump off that foot that supposedly isn't a new pivot and get close enough for a layup. That's a common sense travel call. It's absurd. That's where the having to jump off both feet comes from.

    • @MikeBesk
      @MikeBesk 4 місяці тому

      Facts.

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому +1

      Haha, no. You dumb.

  • @wtfyoumeaninvalid
    @wtfyoumeaninvalid Рік тому +2

    2:45 so you can just take a step and stand there forever as long as you dont put your pivot foot down? sounds stupid to me.

    • @Biggiiful
      @Biggiiful Рік тому +1

      You can. And yes, it IS stupid. But legal. No one is saying standing on one foot is a good idea. Just demonstrating lifting a pivot foot is legal.

  • @0rangeSpaceMonkey
    @0rangeSpaceMonkey 25 днів тому

    The people that complain is because people think this is legal in high school and below. Kids train this bs.😊

  • @lemini4k
    @lemini4k 2 роки тому +1

    @2:20 I literally tried explaining this during a pickup game they thought I was speaking Japanese or something.

  • @RyccoLamar
    @RyccoLamar 6 місяців тому +1

    I have to disagree with this pivot rule as described here. Unless they have decided in the recent years to change that rule, if you lift your pivot it’s a travel, and I understand the logic in this video but even the way it’s being explained is off. If you’re on the break and you gather to shoot your layup neither of your feet is a “pivot”, by literal definition a pivot is “a movement in which the player holding the ball may move in any direction with one foot, while keeping the other (the pivot foot) in contact with the floor” so you must be holding be holding the ball and essentially at a standstill to establish a pivot not in a running motion toward the basket.
    Once you pick that foot up off the ground UNLESS you are jumping from two feet it is a travel, ive seen players get called from travels for simply sliding that pivot to a different position on the floor and not picking it up at all.

    • @Eastside313JeffersonAve
      @Eastside313JeffersonAve 6 місяців тому +1

      Exactly

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому +1

      Just go read the rules, kid. You're wrong.

    • @RyccoLamar
      @RyccoLamar 2 місяці тому

      @@Figment- guess you missed the part where I said “unless the rules have changed” because as described this is exactly how the rule was interpreted, I even researched the rule before writing my comment genius

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому

      @@RyccoLamar it's been the rule for forever so you should get some help.

    • @RyccoLamar
      @RyccoLamar 2 місяці тому

      @@Figment-it hasn’t but ok lame

  • @bryanprehoda
    @bryanprehoda 8 місяців тому

    They should change the rule n make it like the myth

  • @tommygraham3514
    @tommygraham3514 Рік тому

    This shouldn't be taught this only allowed in the NBA/FIBA and not at AAU, HS and even college??

    • @GetHandles
      @GetHandles  Рік тому

      This is all legal on all levels. The only thing that isn't allowed in HS, college AAU is the gather step.

    • @tommygraham3514
      @tommygraham3514 Рік тому

      @@GetHandles bro you traveled Everytime lol.

    • @Figment-
      @Figment- 2 місяці тому

      ​@@tommygraham3514you suck at basketball and probably everything you try.

  • @AnimeVerse_
    @AnimeVerse_ Рік тому

    If you can jump off your pivot, could you just take 3 steps and it would be legal? Ie: curry slide (2 steps) and then jump of pivot foot?

  • @madjack69
    @madjack69 3 роки тому

    Мужик, добавь, пж, русские субтитры

  • @harveyedwards400
    @harveyedwards400 10 місяців тому +1

    You can’t pick up your pivot foot to pass or shoot in college. Travel.

  • @tat3998
    @tat3998 3 місяці тому

    You can’t pivot then advance off the other foot. You have two options (shoot or pass) the rule doesn’t say you can take another step then shoot. Seriously though, if Hakeem did this move, Jordan would have zero rings and he’d be the goat. But he didn’t do this move because it’s not legal. You’re spreading incorrect information on the step through. Why wouldn’t Hakeem, arguably the best post player of all time, do this? You can’t produce any footage of him doing it either. You may find a couple of Kobe getting away with it, doesn’t make it legal. I guarantee that if Hakeem did this move every game or even every possession, he would’ve been unstoppable. Rockets would’ve never lost

  • @daviddior5637
    @daviddior5637 2 роки тому +1

    Mehn you're fascinating💯💯💯

  • @kjvstreetpreacher
    @kjvstreetpreacher 2 місяці тому

    WNBA allows traveling or nobody would score.