iniBuilds P-40F WarHawk | Full Flight Review | Burning Blue Design Little Gransden - Fenland | MSFS
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In this video, we carry out a review of the newly released iniBuilds / iniSimulations P-40F WarHawk, within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We will be taking the aircraft on a short hop between 2 of Burning Blue Design's newest sceneries - Little Gransden (EGMJ) and Fenland (EGCL).
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! - Ігри
Someone should really make a Bf-109 and a Fw-190 with this quality for the sim.
FlyingIron Simulations is working on both.
Hi Jocking,
As Jason points out, FlyingIron are actually working on both aircraft (and being FlyingIron products, I suspect their quality will be even better than what we’ve seen here).
All the best : )
Keep up the incredible content! Every time theres a new mod or an addon i wait for you to review to make sure about purchases or downloads. Thank you ITBS!
Thank you very much for the kind words Chad, I shall certainly try my best! I’m really happy to hear that you’re finding the content of use : )
Cheers and all the best!
Thanks as always for the review. Well made, entertaining, and informative. Much appreciated!
Many thanks Kirt, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! Much appreciated! My pleasure and all the best : )
What a comprehensive display of that flight panel! very clean easy to get around WOW! Always loved the plane with the shark bite graphic.😎
Cheers Headspace! Yes, the P-40’s panel is a very nice piece of design - much more “modern” in its philosophy, than many other warbirds. I’m a big fan of shark mouth paint schemes also haha; I read somewhere the other the day, that the Brits originally copied the idea off the Germans.
All the best! : )
One issue I have with most piston props in sims (not just MSFS) is that they’re just too easy to fire up. My experience in light aircraft is that they need a little coaxing into life, especially when cold. It’d be nice if they simulated the hesitation, coughing, and spluttering as they fire up.
The only sim aircraft that need some finesse to start that I know of are the A2A ones. They have their own proprietary software for engine simulation iirc.
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I agree. In both DCS and MSFS piston engines are just not convincing. The common thread seems to be very weak sounds that just don't sound realistic. Also, the start-up smoke effects on this aircraft are too brown and appear way to early - i.e. as soon as the engine is cranked rather than when it starts firing.
Very true Dale - I’ve flown one or two very stubborn aircraft in my time haha! A2A are just about the only dev that consistently do engine modelling justice - their aircraft really do feel like living, breathing machines (and can often be a pain to get started, depending on the conditions haha). It sounds like their Comanche is still coming along nicely, so fingers crossed we see it in the new year!
Cheers : )
I second A2A Simulations. They model piston engines great.
@@Chief-InstructorIdk the Spitfire in DCS requires a ton of coaxing. I have struggled with it on many occasions.
As usual another fine video........ Quite informative
Many thanks once again Mike! : )
Always had a soft spot for the P-40 - One of the highest roll rates in World War II. Certainly a pretty plane! Thanks for the review as always. 😊
Agreed. One of the sexier planes from WWII. MSFS is starting to impress me with the visuals, etc. I have been waiting for them to straighten out the rotor flight, etc. Might need to give myself a Christmas present. 😊
My pleasure on the review Finn! The P-40 is a nice looking aircraft and iniBuilds have certainly recreated the Warhawk in a beautiful fashion. Interesting regarding the roll rate - sounds like the flight model is pretty far off on that. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )
Haha, why not Kyle - come join us over on the dark side ; )
Great review and nice to see another warbird in the sim, particularly with a Merlin engine. Looks as though it will be great for VR as well.
Thanks very much Terry! Yes indeed, I’ll always take another warbird haha. The iniBuilds P-40 certainly looks and sounds great, but I think the flight model still needs some work. . . There’s actually *another* P-40 due out also haha (from Flight Replicas), so it’ll be interesting to see how the two versions stack up.
Cheers! : )
I jumped the gun... I knew I should have waited for your review!!! :) only took it out for a spin once so far and just like you was a little dismayed that much of the cockpit wasn't functional but enjoyed flying it overall. iniBuilds already released an update today which I think is an encouraging sign.
Ah, well if it’s any consolation, I too was quite excited for this one and picked it up readily, with high expectations haha. I have found the P-40 to be a little underwhelming frankly (still, for the price it looks and sounds pretty great). The systems fidelity I can live with, but the flight model could certainly still use some more work. As you say, already 1 or 2 updates, so hopefully iniBuilds will keep them coming!
Cheers Lior : )
Fantastic aircraft! I like it as good as the spitfire and hellcat! What a treat and this thing blows big Radials version out of the water!!!
Outstanding !
Thanks very much indeed Sean, I’m really glad you enjoyed it : )
All the best!
Got it last night and I love it as much as the spitfire and hellcat! It is phenomenal!!!!
Cracking looking plane model. Honest & full review, liked Little Grandson airport . For £15 can't do wrong. Also the fly-by was a nice touch. Great job, Thanks
The aircraft certainly looks beautiful Conleth, sadly it’s left somewhat wanting in other areas at the moment (namely the flight model). Hopefully iniBuilds will keep plugging away and fix / improve a few more aspects of the product.
I’m glad you enjoyed the flyby haha, I hope you’re enjoying Little Gransden also ; )
Cheers!
Great and fair review as always, I am tempted by this and whilst you say the sound is great, I noticed as you landed it seemed to loop. I watched someone else's video of this (yes sorry I looked elsewhere) and again I notice the sound seemed to clearly loop and i found it rather distracting. I might hold fire a bit and try to listen to others. Thank you for the video. For the price it's a great offering from iniBuilds.
Thanks Mark!
I didn’t notice the looping at the time, but it’s certainly there (having watched the video back). iniBuilds have already put out an update to fix the sound issues apparently (which is great), but I must say that I still find the aircraft a little underwhelming to fly. Flight Replicas are also doing a P-40, so it might be worth waiting, to see how the two addons stack up against one another.
Haha, watching other UA-cam channels?! Don’t tell anyone - but I do also ; )
Hehe. Many thanks as always and all the best! : )
Excellent review as usual, just bought the P40 Warhawk, awesome plane to fly and great value for money. 😊
Thanks very much Stokegolfer! I’m glad you enjoyed the review and I’m very happy to hear that you’re enjoying the P40.
Happy flying and all the best : )
I paid the same price as one of the Reno racer aircraft, and this is much better than one of those. I'm happy enough. Thanks for the thorough review!
That’s true Dillan, the P-40 certainly compares very favourably vs the Reno aircraft. In fairness to iniBuilds, the Warhawk has been updated a number of times since release and is now in a much better state. I actually took the aircraft for a spin only yesterday and enjoyed the flight overall (the addon is still no FlyingIron Spitfire mind you haha).
My pleasure on the review! Happy flying and all the best : )
Great video thanks
You’re most welcome, Art! Thanks very much once again for watching - I’m glad you enjoyed it. Have a great day : )
Hard to takeoff at first! but this plane is worth it!
After watching all three of your P-40 videos, I decided to get the inibuilds P-40F. I did really like the interior of the Flight Replicas P-40, but the price was too steep for me and I didn't like the reused P-51 sounds. Probably could not have made a decision without the help of your videos, so I appreciate it!
Haha, well thanks very much for watching the whole lot JB, I’m really glad you found them useful! As I mentioned in my other comment, for what it’s worth, I think I would have made the same decision overall.
Cheers and happy flying! : )
I would love to see a B29 some day
Hey ITBS loved the review as always, top quality and the effort you put into the content is obviously visible and i appreciate it.
One thing, What kind of yoke/joystick (setup) do you use?
Thanks and Marry Christmas.🎄🎄
Thanks very much Gus! Very kind of you to say and always thoroughly nice to hear (since I do indeed spend quite some time on the videos).
I use a Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - my full hardware setup is in the video description : )
I hope that helps. Cheers and all the best!
The P40 power plant was a Allison V12. Nice video.
Hi Bruce,
Ordinarily yes, but I believe (and the iniBuilds documentation would seem to confirm this) that the "F" variant was powered by a Packard Merlin : )
Thank you very much and all the best!
Great review, fully agree with your points, the P-40 has a lot of potential. In addition to your points, I hope iniBuilds will rework the prop model too. The Curtiss Electric Propeller of the P-40 can be operated either with the prop leaver or a switch (auto/manual -> decrease/increase) that sits at the left side right below the main panel (currently isn't working in the sim).
When the switch is in the auto position you would do your adjustments with the prop lever (it acts like a normal constant speed propeller). In the manual position, as far as I know, it acts like a fixed pitch propeller, that can be fine adjusted via the switch.
In the auto position, on runup at 30 inches the rpm should be significantly higher than it currently is, at takeoff you should be able to reach 3000 rpm and in flight no matter whether you are in a dive or climbing the rpm should be consistent. I think at the moment, it behaves mostly like a fixed pitch propeller or as if the prop switch would be in the manual position.
Kermit Weeks explained that system in one of his videos, either with his P-40 or his Wildcat, both of which use Curtiss Electric Propellers.
Thanks very much for your points VS and I'm really glad you enjoyed the review!
Yes, I certainly think that the P-40F could use quite a bit of work in a number or areas; there is potential, but I find the aircraft a little bit underwhelming currently (sadly).
I do enjoy a Kermit Weeks video, I shall have to check that out at some point!
Cheers and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you for your reply =)
Yes, that's true. Since the release there have been 3 updates however, with apparently more to come, and I have to say the P-40 has really grown on me. But when it comes to systems depth it still isn't at the same level of Blackbirds Corsair or FlyingIrons birds.
All the best and a great start for the new year =) I can't wait to see your reviews for this year, there are quite a few exciting projects on the horizon!
You’re most welcome on the reply! Thank you very much for the kind words, I’m really glad you’re enjoying the content. There are certainly lots of exciting prospects for the new year!
All the best to you for 2023 : )
GREAT flight, the sounds on that low pass are outstanding. I have been to the Reno Air Races and when those P51's go screaming by are something to witness (hear). All of the developers are in a race to turn their aircraft from a debit to a credit, so it's a big decision as to when to release it. I think some release a bit early by not fixing so many minor things IE: wing decals. Anyway, looks to be a fun airplane to fly! !! !!!
It would be nice if all developers would give an ‘early release’ price for titles that aren’t fully baked.
Thanks very much Mark, glad you’ve enjoyed it!
I’m a somewhat biased Brit, but there really is something spectacular about a Merlin engine roaring by (I think the Spit is about as close as a piece of machinery can come to having a “soul”) - I’m sure the P-51’s were spectacular!
Indeed, “early” releases seem to be pretty common practice these days, but I wasn’t expecting such behaviour from iniBuilds. Having found out that Flight Replicas are also releasing a P-40 soon, I can see what happened. . . haha.
All the best! : )
Agreed Kirt. It seems devs want to “have their cake and eat it” though haha. I really don’t understand this sort of practice I have to say; sure you bring in some cash flow, but potentially at the cost of your reputation (doesn’t seem like a good trade off to me). . .
Cheers!
Regarding the circuit breakers. In RL those breaker switches are tied to a copper wire that physically breaks. The switches would just be an indication for the pilot, when broken they would have to be repaired by ground crew. You couldn't just flip a switch to get it back.
Ah well thanks very much for the info Dilain, that’s very interesting to know. It would still have been nice to see more of the cockpit controls modelled though - the P-40 isn’t quite what I was expecting from iniBuilds. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )
Thank you for this very fair review. I remember my A2A P40 from FSX days and will pass on this one. Too many devs release unfinished modules.
My pleasure Snowy! Yes, sadly this “release and then finish” strategy, seems to be all too common these days. At least the iniBuilds P-40 is somewhat priced accordingly, but the product certainly isn’t a “must have”.
Many thanks and all the best! : )
It’s a shame they didn’t add any RAF ‘Kittyhawk’ paint versions in this release.
Completely agree RD. There are now some nice freeware livery options available though (including at least 1 RAF one) - worth checking out : )
Cheers, all the best!
Instrument cluster lights? You can be a test pilot and push it to it's limit by going full throttle & seeing top speed.
Just got this. My settings menu in the tablet doesnt have "Civilian" or "Military".. just Maintenence. No gunsight option.. does it vary based on the livery?
Hello MVR,
I’m guessing you purchased the addon from the in-sim Marketplace? Unfortunately, any aircraft purchased from the Marketplace, comes with all of its weapons removed (I believe this is done in order to maintain the sim’s ESRB rating). I did make mention of the issue during the video, as many people are unaware of this fact and it isn’t always made very clear on the product page (it certainly should be).
I’m afraid there isn’t any way of rectifying this issue, but hopefully that at least solves the mystery for you.
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you! I guess I missed that.. Good video though!
Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it! My pleasure and all the best : )
Amazing review as always, thank you. Would love to hear your thoughts on the WB-Sim 172 from Just Flight if you feel so inclined.
Thanks very much Holobolo, I’m really glad you enjoyed it!
Actually, the C172 mod is something I would like to take a look at. As I rather missed the boat on the addon, it’s not a priority at the moment, but if I have a rainy day with nothing to do, I may well take a look ; )
Cheers!
Thank you for yet another nice pre-review? :P
I never heard of iniBuilds before the 310 and heard a lot good. However after the 310 releasing with quite a few bugs, some quite significant,, and a bit weak sound. I was going to give the slip there as perhaps they had a very solid deadline. As it stands i am just not feeling that iniBuilds = high quality vibe.
The P-40 for me has been my most favourite IRL warbird after the Spitfire and Hurricane and flown it in various IL-2 versions, just a very handsome plane.
However what you show here, i don't know it just makes me sad. probably just my passion speaking here but looking at that takeoff, the tail doesn't rise, and it just lifts off ina way i never seen a P-40 lift off, just looked very weird. And the handling in general, to me who has only sim time in this plane looks just weird. As for the engine sound, probably the real downer. I like what they TRY to do. It just isn't there, imo not even close.
The EFB/Nav unit things i think are nice as they realisticly are used in warbird that fly today in various shapes and forms to be able to safely fly these planes in a modern busy airspace.
I don't know but personally i am starting to get super weary of planes like this, that either just are meh forever or need various patches to make it what it should be, because now, well we don't know how many patches and how far they will improve the plane.
Imo MFS is becomming a bit of a minefield when it comes to addon plane quality. This makes what you and other YT'ers do more and more important, specially pointing out flaws while still being fair to what is nice, serious flaws like good sounds or handling can really break a plane.
I think so far the best Merlin sounds are in the DCS Mustang, although being a Packard ofc. But with meaty yet that harsh exhaust sound and pops and cracles when you pull it to idle quicy. The only bit that sounded o.k. was the fly-by.
Man i sound like a grumpy old guy haha. But being in 2023 soon, i am afraid we get this plane trend that also plagues games where they get released too soon, and really should have needed another 6-12 months dev time. Either being released too early or as what happened to the the MD-11 that comes in 2023, maybe.
Hi Coenraad,
Haha, well it certainly wasn’t intended to be a preview, but I suppose it kind of was in the end XD
Like you, I’d only heard great things about iniBuilds, with more than one person claiming their addons are the very best “study level” jets for X-Plane. The MSFS A310 isn’t quite where I thought it would be, but it’s certainly still an excellent addition, whereas the P-40 is frankly rather underwhelming, sadly. . . The (possible) good news, there is yet *another* P-40 inbound apparently haha! Flight Replicas are also doing one, although who knows how good that will be.
The takeoff behaviour was my own “fault”. I tend to go with a 3-point takeoff in MSFS, as I’ve found it’s the best way to mitigate the dodgy ground handling physics. The P-40 can takeoff in a more conventional fashion and indeed the aircraft is slightly above average in terms of its behaviour. The flight model needs quite a lot of work in general though, particularly in pitch.
I quite liked the engine sounds, but I’m always the first to admit that I’m no audiophile haha.
I was expecting a lot more from the P-40 overall and as you say, it’s a bit “meh”. Reviews give me something to do though eh ; )
Hopefully 2023 will bring A2A to MSFS - one of the few devs who don’t release until things have been done right. The Comanche isn’t top of my list, but it’s a start! Hopefully their warbirds will start making an appearance thereafter!
Cheers sir : )
Question: Does MSFS have damage modeling or can it be enabled like the old FSX .cfg? Also, do you make your review data available to the providers? With your real world experience, I would reckon they'd appreciate the constructive criticism.
Love your takes and insight BTW.
Hello again Kyle,
By default, the sim only models damage to the same degree as FSX (it looks to basically use the same system), ie airframe stress is modelled and certain failures can be programmed etc. Obviously certain addon aircraft go beyond this though.
I generally don’t explicitly send my findings to the devs, but of course my videos are available for all to see, should they wish to act on any of my critique (many devs do tends to watch my videos, some take the feedback with a better nature than others haha). I don’t know that my real-world experience counts for much with an aircraft like this haha, but I try and make some educated guesses where I can etc.
I’m glad you’re still enjoying the content! Thanks very much once again : )
There seems to be a blur when looking out the sides of the window...Especially in VR, is there anyway to turn that off or down?
Hi Madgamer,
Indeed, I think the blurring is as a result of the engine exhaust effects. So far as I am aware, there is no way of turning it down I’m afraid (though I agree, such an option would be desirable).
I hope that clarifies things a little. Cheers and all the best! : )
i found if set cowl flaps to high speed position is still ok on cruise. climb at full open then in cruise set high speed. mp in green zone 30-34 rpm 2300-2350 mix auto lean... sad is no buffeting before stall. no prop effects... reserve tank fill by set external tank... but in any way she's cool. just probably first days stuff. and after she will even better
Hi Einherz,
Yeah, I’ve found the cowl flaps to be pretty ineffectual overall - closed or open, the engine temps seem to stay about the same. There’s certainly room for improvement with many aspects of the product but as you say, early days and hopefully iniBuilds will continue to work on the Warhawk!
Cheers : )
Been flying this for a few days now. Great model. Couple of issues, my setting options do not include military or civilian pilot option, just maintenance and persistence toggle. And fuel pump switch doesnt work. Anyone else have the same issue?
Hi FS,
The pilot model has to be changed via the sim settings. If you go to the settings menu and then the “Misc” tab, you can change your pilot avatar from there. I gather the fuel pump was a know issue and appears to have been fixed with the last P-40 update.
I hope that helps a little? All the best : )
It looks really neat
Hi MZ,
The Warhawk certainly looks beautiful; the aircraft sounds good, systems depth is okaaay, but the flight model could definitely still use some work. Hopefully iniBuilds will keep plugging away at it. . .
All the best : )
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Great review as always! Thoughts on this versus the Big Radials P-40? I don't plan on getting both and prefer the look of the P-40B (despite the missing armored glass plate in the Big Radials one being very noticeable/detracting from the experience), but am not sure which has the better flight model
Thanks very much Maty, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Each product has its own strengths and weaknesses I would say. The iniBuilds P-40 looks and sounds better, I think the Big Radials P-40 flies a bit nicer though (with the exception of the takeoff characteristics). Both aircraft have about the same systems depth. There is actually *another* P-40 due out from Flight Replicas haha, so personally I’d probably wait on that one and see which version ends up being the best of the bunch.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the reply, will wait and see what happens with the other P-40. Good to hear that there isn't much of a quality difference between the Big Radials and the IniBuilds one, I do prefer the lines of the former but was worried it might not hold up.
You’re most welcome for the reply! Yes, probably best to wait and see what Flight Replicas have to offer : )
Well I have both of them and it's like Night and day! Big Radials version is like playing on an in 64 nintendo compared to this! I give this an 8 and the big radials version a 2! That much better!
@@Foxtrot_EW Thanks for the input!
Overall I love the P-40F. A few things I noticed are the same as what you mentioned: The heat blur from the engines on the ground is way overdone, I'd like to have a little more system depth (for example it doesn't seem to matter whether I prime the engine or not. It will always start) and the prop lever acts weird.
It barely moves the RPM needle throughout the top half of the prop lever range. The RPM only drop when you pull the leaver to almost full coarse. It's as if there is some curve in effect in the background. This is the only variable prop aircraft in my collection that shows that behavior.
It's of course great for the price but if I'd have to pay a little more for a more accurate simulation (overheating failures (with accurate temps of course) etc.), I'd do it.
Thanks for the feedback Jigsaw - I’m glad you’re enjoying the aircraft!
The prop / prop lever is weird. Prop rpm seems rather low at “low” speed, the prop lever seems to have limited effect on the rpm and engine modelling in general seems a bit sub-par. The flight model could certainly use some work also.
The price is indeed pretty great for the level of visual quality etc, but I came away a bit underwhelmed, given what I was expecting from iniBuilds. Hopefully they will keep plugging away at the Warhawk and fix up the aircraft’s issues : )
Cheers!
Nice review as allways. Thanks a lot for youre efforts. Looks and sounds very good. Love the P40. Fm, despite using CFD, seams very much "standart msfs on rails" kind of type. A bit of a shame. How is yaw modelled btw? Does it feel like a heavy fighter or is it just snapping back like so many msfs planes?? And does it need additional diffrential-breaking when taxiing?
Hi Marcel,
Thank you very much for the kind words, my pleasure on the review!
The iniBuilds P-40 does indeed look and sound great, but the flight model is a bit sub-par I have to say. Roll feels good (roll rate is perhaps a bit low though), rudder is pretty typical MSFS (though takeoff handling felt slightly above average), the aircraft feels pretty bad in pitch though - very little inertia in pitch, jamming the stick forward will result in the aircraft instantaneously going 90 degrees nose-down and the aircraft definitely has a tendency to snap back to centre also. Ground handling is pretty straightforward and little / no differential braking is required.
I hope that clarifies things a bit? All the best! : )
as usual a fantastic review !! I have the Big Radials P-40,,,,,any comparisons???? flying performance? realism?
Thanks very much J, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Each product has its own strengths and weaknesses I would say. The iniBuilds P-40 looks and sounds better, I think the Big Radials P-40 flies a bit nicer though (with the exception of the takeoff characteristics). Both aircraft have about the same systems depth. There is actually *another* P-40 due out from Flight Replicas haha, so personally I’d probably wait on that one and see which version ends up being the best of the bunch. There’s no clear winner currently and neither product is a “must have”.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Oof, some noticeable loop artifacts in the audio both in & out, that'd drive me nuts fairly fast :S plane looks pretty spiffing though. Simple Merlin startup surprised me after various Mk IX Spits! was a Packard Merlin as opposed to a pukka RR one, wasn't it? there were some minor differences iirc.
Haha, I never can hear these things (though I did notice the looping, after it was pointed out haha). iniBuilds have now fixed up the sounds (apparently), but there’s certainly still work to be done on the flight model (it needs some at any rate). She’s a looker for sure though!
and yes, I believe you’re correct, it was a Packard Merlin - slip of the tongue haha.
Cheers sir : )
Excellent landing! I hate when people showcase an aircraft then can’t land it properly
Thanks very much Jake, I try my best haha! Cheers and all the best : )
Beautiful model but FM seems lacking. Little torque from the prop and no yaw from asymmetric retraction of landing gear which act like big speed brakes when they turn 90 degrees.
Hi Vorch,
Yes, that’s a pretty fair assessment of the addon overall. Despite now having 3 P-40 options available in the sim, none of them quite tick all of the boxes unfortunately (although currently, all things considered, the iniBuilds version is probably the best of the bunch).
Cheers and all the best! : )
Can smell the grass you’re kicking up 😆
Haha! Well I hope my landing fees were reduced accordingly - for giving the grass a free trim as I go : P
What flight sim is the P-40F for ?
Hi Moore,
The iniBuilds P-40F is available for Microsoft Flight Simulator.
I hope that helps. All the best : )
Sounds like this is one I will be giving a miss. I want them to at least be the Milviz/Flying Iron (which I love) standard.
Yes, probably a good call then Lee. The iniBuilds P-40 is a little underwhelming unfortunately (at least for now) and certainly not up to the same standards as the likes of Flyingiron, MILZIV etc.
All the best! : )
I'll man you're missing out because I just bought this last night and I like it as much as flying iron spitfire and hellcat! And for 8!!!
I was quit underwhelmed by the product and hoping for some future updates, especially for the interior sounds and flightmodel.
Hi Servaas,
Personally I rather liked the sounds, although I see they have been given some updates subsequently (to get rid of some looping etc). I agree that the flight model needs some work (pitch behaviour is pretty poor for one thing). Like you, overall I came away a little underwhelmed, especially given iniBuilds reputation / other products.
Fingers crossed we’ll get some more updates. All the best! : )
why oh why did you not test this out over Pearl Harbour 😃
Haha, that would have been a good one also Dingo! I could have gotten Ben Affleck involved and everything XD
I really just went with the route, to show off the Burning Blue Design sceneries; they’ve been very kind / supportive of the channel since the early days, so I like to help them out a little where I can.
There’s another P-40 in the pipeline apparently (haha), so *perhaps* we’ll head over to Pearl Harbour then ; )
Cheers!
I actually think the sounds are a little flat (or compressed). It doesn't have the same depth as the FlyingIron birds.
Fair enough Gary, I’m always the first to admit that I don’t have much of an ear for these things haha. I agree that the addon doesn’t sound as good as FlyingIron’s work, but I didn’t think it was bad relative to most MSFS addons.
Cheers and all the best : )
Well the final version does because I have all of the World War II aircraft in the SIM and this aircraft is fantastic and the sounds compare to Hellcat and spitfire!
@@Foxtrot_EW We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Please go watch the “zeno’s warbirds” video on the operation of the P-40. Your three point takeoff is potentially deadly and poor technique. The aircraft requires a pilot to lift the tail and arise from the main gear to avoid any issues will inadvertent stalls at take off.
Hi DS,
Thanks for the pointer and I appreciate where you’re coming from for sure. The three point takeoff was not so much about trying to do things accurately, rather trying to manage MSFS’ taildragger physics. I find the sim still needs quite a bit of work when it comes to the ground handling of tailwheel aircraft, particularly during the takeoff and one of the best ways I’ve found to mitigate the sim’s issues, is to keep the tailwheel down for as long as possible - hence the three point takeoff.
I hope that clarifies things. Cheers and all the best! : )
Dude!!! Who cares! This isn't real life and he's doing us all a favor by showcasing this aircraft and you're complaining about technical stuff!?
Many thanks! I think you did set yourself up for a bit of disappointment since it's an iB product, but glad that you repeatedly called out the unprecedentedly low price (which I think HAS to weigh in heavily here).
Since it has CFD, and an EFB and esp considering the price and iB's rep, I'm gonna take a leap of faith and go for it, based also on the promises of the two planned patches/updates.
Why?
I'm no longer thrilled with MV's F4U now that CFD flight models are available, and I'm not sure FIS' CFD implementations are accurate, and the ground handling on the Hellcat is still far too simplistic (easy), same with landing/takeoff. IMHO, their P-38 is their best bird, somewhat due to the tricycle gear. But again, though the new CFD gives it "fluidity", i'm not sure it's finely tuned...
And I've so far avoided Aeroplane Heaven simply due to the continual reviews of bugginess and FSX-level flight models, though they do create beautiful models (i'll probably break down and get their Lancaster just for that reason).
If I want a truly Hi-Fi Warhawk, Spitfire or Mustang, they're always waiting for me in Prepar3D with A2A's versions (and/or many more in DCS World). Love flying them, but P3D's world sim is relatively uninspiring these days...
Even if nothing else, I'll have a stunningly beautiful Warhawk with the heart of a Spitfire at a fire sale price :)
Cheers US, my pleasure!
That’s certainly sound enough reasoning. I thought iniBuilds had a pretty great reputation (hence why I was expecting more from the Warhawk)? For the beautiful model / sounds alone, the price isn’t bad, but there’s definitely work to be done on the flight model, if nothing else.
I’m still a big fan of FI’s work and the Corsair; they may well not be 100% accurate, but they are 100% fun to fly : P
and I completely agree re A2A and their warbirds. I’d love to see them in MSFS ASAP, since it is a pretty raw deal going back to P3D these days haha.
Many thanks and happy flying! : )
Sadly this is another company that wants to rush a release in time for the holiday spenders instead of actually focusing on quality , yikes.
Sadly, it does feel a little bit that way Alaskan. I gather Flight Replicas are also working on a P-40, to be released soon - so I think that explains iniBuilds “expeditious” release of their own P-40 haha (but I’m surprised to see the likes of iniBuilds doing such a thing).
All the best!
Realy???? Its $8!!!
No complaints for what I paid for it.
It must have been $8 on sale Ghost? I think I paid about $20 for it myself.
Cheers!
very nice shame about the sounds i do not like them
Hi AAS,
I quite liked the sounds, but I’d be the first to admit that I don’t have a very good ear for these things haha. Sadly, the P-40 is a little underwhelming overall; the aircraft certainly looks beautiful, but the flight model still needs work and the systems depth is average. The sounds have been updated since release, but I’ve yet to try the latest version of the aircraft. . .
All the best!
@IntotheBlueSimulations I've spent plenty of time with p40s and filmed them and sadly it doesn't sound good to some they might like but to others they don't
I certainly wasn’t suggesting you were wrong AAS (apologies if it came across that way). What I was trying to say, was that I thought the aircraft sounded good in a more general sense, not necessarily to say that it sounded accurate (I’ve never actually heard a P-40 / Packard Merlin myself).
Cheers again : )
Sounds are fantastic!!!
I’m about tired of people making war birds that don’t model overheating. That is absolutely critical with msfs 2020. I’m going to just stick with flying irons / millviz or black bird sims warbird releases for now. It seems like everyone else just hasn’t gotten the memo yet. That’s literally what made these things challenging to fly. The risk of blowing your engine if you don’t operate within parameters. In a simulator I expect the same parameters and the same consequences. That’s the point people. That is the standard that was set. This plane does not meet it. Don’t buy this half ass aircraft. Instead collect all the millviz or flying iron airplanes for the sim. Flying iron also promised the two Germans. Fw190 - bf109. Their in development now. And they are considering a zero. Millviz should be dropping the skyraider soon too…. So These scrubs can keep this one.
Yep, I largely agree Ricardo. Of course to some degree, modelling fidelity depends on who the product is being aimed at, but I don’t think the P-40 was being targeted towards the more “casual” crowd and the whole warbird experience feels a bit empty when there’s no real engine management to speak of (alas, currently the P-40 has a number of other shortfalls also).
All the best
Visually stunning. But its not a Simulator when the flight model sucks.
Yeah I don't know what you're talking about. I love flying this as much as I like flying the spitfire, P38, and hellcat.
@@Foxtrot_EW It means the flight characteristics in MFS in not accurate at all. But as I said, it is visually stunning air planes to look at. And it is great you are having fun flying these. But as a Pilot I can say these characteristics and flight models suck. I stay with DCS "Digital Combat Simulator" for the very accurate flight model and characteristics. The Spitfire is awesome in DCS ;)
why are you talking like a robot 😂 we aint your commerical passengers
Haha, well I don’t know what you want me to say Deus. I’d be the first to admit that I’m not a natural orator; some people like the commentary style and others don’t, fair enough either way. It’s not a style that I “put on” though and I’ve found it’s very difficult to change the way I speak, now that I’ve gotten into a set pattern.
I hope that clarifies things a bit. All the best
@@IntotheBlueSimulations how do you talk to your mother?
Haha, with the utmost respect, of course! XD
I get where you’re coming from, but I’m not usually trying to talk to my mother whilst “flying” an aeroplane and commenting on my findings ha (multitasking and pausing for thought tends to add to the “effect”). I generally speak with quite a fragmented speech pattern even ordinarily. As I say, by and large, it is what it is I’m afraid ; )
oof I hope they aren't charging much for this the modeling looks really poor you can see the low poly count in the windshield frame, sounds are awful, the damn IL2 cliffs of dover Tobruk expansion has a better looking, and sounding tomahawk and kittyhawk. Sure it doesn't have every switch available, but a lot is clickable, and the engine damage modeling and flight model is fantastic.
Hi Jon,
The iniBuilds P-40 is a relatively cheap addon but regardless, I still found it to be somewhat disappointing. Personally, I didn’t even mind the sounds / visual modelling, but the overall experience of flying the addon, simply felt a bit “hollow”. I haven’t tried Tobruk myself, but from the screenshots I’ve seen, that particular P-40 does look very nice (I’m a sucker for anything in a British paint scheme to be fair haha).
Cheers : )
You are blind! I bought it last night for $8. And for $8 it holds up against the spitfire and hellcat! This was an early release but the final release is absolutely stunning!!!!
@@Foxtrot_EW smoking crack brother