Flight Replicas P-40N WarHawk | Full Flight Review | Damyns Hall - Earls Colne | MSFS
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In this video, we carry out a review of the newly released Flight Replicas P-40N WarHawk, within Microsoft Flight Simulator (MSFS).
We will be taking the aircraft on a short hop between 2 of Burning Blue Design's newest sceneries - Damyns Hall (EGML) and Earls Colne (EGSR).
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
MSI B550M
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 4.7GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! - Ігри
I wonder why there are multiple variants of the same (somewhat niche) aircraft in development by multiple developers whilst others are neglected? I’d personally absolutely love to see a PBY Catalina or a Short Sunderland modelled well.
+1 on the Sunderland!
+1 on the PBY Catalina!
+2 on the Catalina! Although the Caribou somewhat reminds me of a ground-based Catalina haha, so that's keeping me happy for now ; )
There is actually a Sunderland available for the sim Arkady, although from the images I have seen of it, you'd have to be a Sunderland super-fan to justify picking it up haha (it doesn't look to be a great addon).
www.justflight.com/product/romantic-wings-legendary-aircraft-pack-4-short-sunderland-mk-iii
I wonder the same thing myself Andy. I can appreciate that these projects take time and that perhaps (for example) Flight Replicas was working on their P-40 before iniBuilds even announced theirs but 1) it's surprising that 3 devs all decided to go ahead and produce this somewhat "niche" aircraft and 2) unless your product is vastly superior to the one that came before it, surely you'd be better off stopping development and cutting your losses (as I can't imagine interest will be high for the product - the views on this video would seem to confirm my theory). As I say, unless A2A decide to bring their P-40 into the sim, I can't imagine anyone will be too enthused for another version of the aircraft.
It's a shame that we keep seeing this doubling (tripling) up though, each duplicated airframe is logically another aircraft that we are missing out on (and I have my own long list of aircraft that I would like to see in the sim haha).
Cheers and all the best! : )
Another Outstanding review! Honest and no exaggerations made in pro or con references. This is why I continue to watch for your reviews.
Thank you!
Rich
Thank you very much for the kind words Rich! That's certainly what I aim for : )
I'm really glad you're finding the content to be of use. My pleasure and all the best to you!
Loved the low pass over the runway, and excellent review as always.
Thanks very much Rahnman, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! Those Mustang / Merlin sounds might not be perfect for the P-40N, but they certainly sound pretty brilliant in a flypast ; )
Cheers once again! : )
Indepth and fair review, as always. Great to see another video from you.
Thank you very much once again Ahiba, very kind of you to say. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it to be fair! All the best : )
I love the visual details on this P-40, if flight replicas can give it some more character i think it’ll make a good representation. I’m looking forward to the DC-4 project they’ve announced I just hope they can do it justice.
Indeed, Hbomb; Flight Replicas have done a very nice job with the aircraft visually. I'm looking forward to the DC-4 also and hoping that the aircraft will look every bit as beautiful as the P-40, but with the other aspects of the product just a little more "fleshed out" ; )
Cheers and all the best!
Lovely fly-by
Haha. I know you enjoy a good flyby Mark and was actually thinking as much when I recorded the shot XD
I'm glad it hit the spot! Many thanks as always and I hope you're keeping well : )
Great review! I love the intro =) I agree with everything you said about it. Initially I was very disappointed with it, but it has grown on me, because it's a lot of fun when doing aerobatics. But it definitely still requires a lot of work. I'm also glad to hear I'm not the only one with FPS issues on the ground, I was a bit worried my computer or sim setup had an issue.
Thank you very much sir, I'm glad you enjoyed it! : )
Yes, I think some of my disappointment came from high expectations, but it's still a shame that this wasn't *the* most comprehensive P-40 of the bunch. Enjoyable (so long as one doesn't try and land ha), but certainly not a "must have". I don't mind the odd bug on release, but I don't know how the fps issue was missed / allowed to slide. This isn't the first addon on which I have seen the issue present itself, but on the other product, the fps issue was fixed before release (like you, I was starting to worry that it was my system at fault, since MSFS has been a bit more stuttery of late anyway haha).
Hopefully Flight Replicas will continue work on the P-40N. . .
Cheers and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you for your response =) I fully agree. I also expected it to be a lot more comprehensive and had been looking forward to it, ever since the first preview pictures were released. I also had the FSX version of it.
Hopefully it will get fixed and improved. I fly warbirds mostly of grass runways and that's currently almost impossible in the P-40.
On a different note, are you planning to do videos on the Flying Flea by Rara-Avis Sims and Red Wings Farman Goliath? They are very quirky and in my opinion, bring something unique and fun to the sim. I'm sure they aren't to everyone's liking, but I would love to hear what you think of them =)
Cheers =)
My pleasure, as always!
Haha, I did spot the Flea and the Goliath on the Marketplace (polar ends of the spectrum haha). The Flea is the sort of thing I would love to take a look at if I had more free time (but sadly I do not), whereas I may take a look at the Goliath, if the chance presents itself (being a fan of the Vickers Vimy, the Goliath would act as a nice stand-in). I wasn’t bowled over by the Red Wing Connie, but the Goliath is looking fairly nice from the pics. No promises though, as I’m now backed up with aircraft that I’m looking to review XD
Thanks again! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations The fun part of the Flea is, that it has no conventional controls. You’ve only got a stick controlling the rudder and elevator (well, the whole front wing moves) and you’ve got no ailerons. Which makes it very unusual to fly and a lot of fun…and a bit wobbly on takeoff and landing 😅 If you should somehow find time for it, I can truly recommend it =)
Yes, the Goliath is very Vimy-ish =) I haven’t got their Constellation yet, but from what I have seen the Goliaths visual model is far better. It still has a few bugs and a lot more features are planned for it, including new variants. But as it is I already find it very enjoyable with a ton of features =)
I’m looking forward to your reviews and I understand if you won't find time for those two =)
great review as always. I'm good with my patched inBuilds P-40, especially for its price!
Thanks very much Lior!
Yes, it's very hard to justify picking up the P-40N unfortunately, when the updated version of the P-40F is very much on a par, better in some areas and significantly cheaper also.
Hopefully Flight Replicas will continue to work on the P-40N, but we shall have to wait and see. . .
Cheers as always! : )
inside is not shaking when running. to smooth inside . great review as always
Indeed Sam, it's a real shame that most addons still have very little "character" in this regard (since clearly the sim does support it at this point). Everything tends to end up feeling a bit sterile as a result. . .
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks very much once again : )
Bounce? You call that a bounce? We mere mortals can only aspire to such a bounce. Well done, very fair and thorough review.
Haha! Well thanks very much OG XD
I’m really glad you enjoyed the review and felt it broadly hit the nail on the head. Thanks very much for watching and happy landings ; )
Always enjoy your reviews, sir! The P-40 was the first warbird I fell in love with as a kid, so she has a special place in my heart. I will likely hold off on purchasing this one until the bugs are squashed. With A2A bringing their first aircraft into MSFS soon, we can all hope the P-40 is on their plate for us as well. I used to fly the paint off that thing in FSX! The question remains, can we have too many P-40s? I know my answer to that one! 😉
Thanks very much Negdosha, I'm very happy to hear that you're enjoying the reviews!
Replace the P-40 with the Spitfire and I would agree with everything you said there haha (the A2A Spitfire is *still* my favourite sim addon of all time ; )
Personally, I'm all P-40'd out for now, but if A2A's recreation of the aircraft shows up, that sentiment would certainly change very quickly! It's brilliant that one of your personal favourites has been given plenty of exposure in MSFS already - hopefully Flight Replicas will continue working on their addon, to the point where it's worthy of your attention and money.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Thanks for the review! This landed on the Xbox Marketplace recently, and I could see that there was a big split in the ratings between those who liked it and those who hated it, so this review helped a lot in terms of pointing out the inconsistencies that are perhaps resulting in the split. I already own the Big Radials and iniBuilds versions, so I wouldn't want to pay the current full price for this one, especially since some improvements still need to be made (e.g., sounds). Hopefully this model will improve down the road (and also hopefully go on sale)! 😉
My absolute pleasure ZZ, I’m really glad the video helped to clear a few things up!
The Flight Replicas version certainly isn’t *bad*, it’s just hard to recommend vs the competition. Apparently the Big Radials P-40 will be getting an update at some point also, so it will be interesting to see what happens there. Currently, whilst far from perfect, I think the iniBuilds version is the best of the bunch.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
Thanks for yet another nice review. Tbf they lost me right after you said it had the P-51 sounds while costing more than the competition. And there being seemingly so little effect from the torque. Will say that the exterior does look really sweet. I think i rather use the money to buy BoX and fly the P-40 there.
A pleasure sir!
Haha, that's fair. The sound choice was a somewhat disappointing one, though I could have lived with it, if Flight Replicas had nailed everything else. As it stands, the P-40N doesn't do anything significantly better than the competition, which it ought to given the price difference. The exterior does look nice but even then, I think the P-40F bests Flight Replicas efforts on that front. Certainly your money can be better "invested" elsewhere hehe ; )
Many thanks as always! : )
At almost $30, it’s a bit disappointing for me. It should have fully custom audio, and almost full functionality at that price. External textures are also not up to par for the price.
I think I would rather just stick with the Big Radials version considering it’s $15 on sale and is supposed to be getting a big update this year.
I think that's currently a fair assessment Vlxxrd. As it stands, there's very little that the P-40N does better than the cheaper P-40F.
That's great news regarding the Big Radials P-40 (I wasn't aware). I shall look forward to that then!
Thanks for the info and all the best : )
Interesting, Flight Replicas did the DC-4 Argonaut for P3D and I would LOVE to see that in MSFS. I don't see this P40 on the flightreplicas website, so maybe he hasn't updated his own website yet.
In sim marketplace has it.
Hi Peter,
I would love to see the DC-4 also (I'm currently completing a livery for the DC-6, but the real-world aircraft that the livery is based on was actually a DC-4 / C-4). I gather that Flight Replicas are actually working on the DC-4 for MSFS (and a couple of other addons also)! I do hope the newer addons will be done to a slightly higher standard though. . .
I did take a quick look at the Flight Replicas website (as I didn't really want to purchase the P-40 from the in-sim Marketplace) but so far as I could tell, it hasn't been updated since the FSX / P3D days.
I hope you're well! Cheers : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations doing well thanks mate! Good to hear they are working on the DC4/Argonaut, did you hear that directly from the dev or is that mentioned online somewhere?
Hi Peter,
There’s a thread about it, running over on the Avsim MSFS forum. I don’t know anything beyond that though I’m afraid : )
Welp...I think I'll be sticking with the Big Radials version. Thank you for the demo.
Haha! Fair enough Reason and probably not a bad call overall to be honest. Apparently the Big Radials version will be getting an update at some point as well, so I'm looking forward to seeing what that brings : )
Cheers once again!
Great review and good flying that bounce was a few millimetres at the most as opposed to my feet on my bounces lol . I have the Inibuilds version so i doubt ill be buying this one but great review all the same .
Cheers Nathan!
Haha, I'm always a little disappointed when I bounce the landing, but having watched back the replay thereafter, I don't think I *technically* left the grass (albeit, Asobo don't seem to cut the grass very often haha) : P
Aesthetically I prefer the cockpit of the Flight Replicas P-40, but otherwise the two addons are broadly on a par with one another and if one owns one, there isn't really a whole lot of point picking up the other to be honest.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Cheers and all the best : )
this thing flies like a breeze compared to the spitfire lol i still prefer the spitfire tho with its nightmarish handlings
Well I'm kind of a sucker for all these planes too and I really Did not like the first one, big radials version, and I thought it was done very poorly! This one seems to be just slightly better, but it has its pros and cons as well but I find more cons and pros. The price is ridiculous when in inibuilds just released the best one of the 3 versions a couple months ago for $8 American! It's definitely the best one and the price was a shock! I like to buy multiple versions of the same aircrafts in the sim as well, but this one is definitely a pass. Thank you for all your hard work and we all appreciate it!!!👍🏼
Hi Vapor,
Haha, well I'm a sucker for a good warbird also, but sadly this one didn't do much for me in the end. The P-40N is broadly on a par with the P-40F, but considering the price increase, it would be very hard to choose / recommend Flight Replicas version currently. The Big Radials P-40 is somewhat a product of its age (it was the teams first ever project and also one of the earlier addons made for the sim) and is apparently getting an update soon, so it will be interesting to see what we get there!
Like you, I'm happy to own multiple versions of the same aircraft within the sim (I don't think I could ever have too many Spitfire variants haha), but the P-40N doesn't really offer anything that one doesn't already get with the P-40F.
Thank you for your kind words! My pleasure on the videos : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you for your response! Happy flying!!
You’re most welcome - and to you! : )
Visually the aircraft is extremely accurate and well detailed; FR also have a Spitfire F Mk VB coming out soon for FS2020 and it's far and away the very best ever done for a sim in terms of the 3D model and artwork.
Shame to hear some other factors of this model aren't as steller.
Thanks very much for the info, BHD; I wasn’t aware that Flight Replicas were doing a MKV, but I shall be keeping a key eye out for that one - you can be very have too many Spits haha!
Cheers, all the best : )
Something worth note: neither this one nor the inibuilds P-40F are even capable of achieving their correct takeoff power RPM of 3000, as per the POH. Some P-40Ns had something called "power control" and for aircraft with this system, takeoff RPM was indeed lower at 2350 - but in these aircraft the RPM lever was inop and "cannot be moved" (as per the manual) as the throttle was linked to the prop control unit instead, and this is explicitly noted. On P-40Ns without this system, 3000 was to be manually set with the RPM lever. The P-40F never had it in the first place. I forget if BR also made this mistake on their P-40B, it's been a while since I flew it. I get the impression that the aircraft was modelled using the figures from one with this system, but the system itself wasn't modelled.
Hi Rossmum,
Thanks very much for the info. That's very interesting and it sounds as though you may well have hit the nail on the head! As you say, both the P-40F and the P-40N behave in the same way and it seems more than a little coincidental that both aircraft are hitting the 2,500 ish RPM range during the takeoff. I wonder if iniBuilds / Flight Replicas have been making use of the same performance numbers and not fully appreciated what those numbers are based on.
I think you might be onto something there. . .
Much appreciated and all the best! : )
Idk why but my copy of it does a loop onto it's back when I try to take off, shakes violently at any speed when in the air, and when I use flaps it goes into a death loop or spiral is there any fix or anyone who's experiencing this or is it just me.
Hi SM,
First thing I would suggest, is checking and making sure your sim’s flight model is set to “Modern” and not “Legacy” (this can be set from the Settings menu). After that, I would check weight and balance. I haven’t flown the P-40 in a while, but something certainly sounds off there and I don’t recall there having been any major sim updates, that might have induced such a bug.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
The electric sounds for the manual fuel priming pump/plunger don't make sense either. I don't understand how they can get so many complicated things right and fall flat on something as simple as finding a proper sound file to use for things you will regularly use. Very cool plane though and great vid. Thanks!!
Yes Ikova, I noticed that also. I figured at least with the primer, the sound fit somewhat better (it did sound electrical as you say, but could pass as a "bad" attempt at making a pump sound also haha).
I get that it's hard for a smaller dev to make complex engine soundpacks and get real aircraft recordings etc, but there isn't much excuse for being *this* wide of the mark. I probably could have come up with a more convincing sound file for the cowl flaps, just by recording something in my kitchen / garage XD
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks very much for watching and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Haha, exactly, all goods though. Keep the vids commin ;)
Thanks for another great video and an honest review.
From what I see this is another unfinished release, I don't have much experience on previous simulators, is it common developers launching their products unfinished like we have seem lately in MSFS?
I ran into this quite often with XP11, so it's not a new development unfortunately.
Hi Danko,
Cheers, you're most welcome!
Unfortunately, it has certainly become more common (though it isn't anything new per se). Flight simulation does seem to have followed the rest of the software industry, in as much as this sort of practice has progressively become more prevalent and finishing a product after release, now seems to have become an "acceptable" practice. I don't have an issue with early access per se, but the product needs to be priced accordingly (a 50% discount is fair in my opinion). It used to be that this sort of thing was only done by smaller devs, putting out complex products and often the project would fall by the wayside (a risk one should always be aware of), but around the days of FS2004 / FSX, certain devs started intentionally releasing unfinished products in multiple phases etc (CaptainSim was at the forefront of this "innovation" once again! XD ). Most of this sort of thing started happening as addons shifted from boxed products, to online downloads (for obvious reasons). As Zomgrei points out, it certainly isn't just an MSFS problem though.
I hope that clarifies things a bit. All the best! : )
Just wondering about your comment regarding the flight model of this one compared with the other P-40s out there. You mentioned that it felt a bit lacking of character, but in your conclusion you said that you would still put it ahead of the Ini and the Big Radials model. Any insights on what it is that this one has, or what especially the BR model is lacking in comparison? So far I only own the Big Radials but I feel that the flight model in particular is quite nice. Certainly not something i'd describe as having no character. Now I can't attest to the realism, but in terms of fun, the Big Radials is quite great!
Hi CSM,
I could probably have made myself clearer on that one. . .
With regards to the flight model, I was actually only comparing between the iniBuilds version and the Flight Replicas version. I haven't flown the Big Radials version in some time, but I seem to recall with the exception of the takeoff / landing, the aircraft flew quite nicely. I would put the Flight Replicas flight model ahead of the iniBuilds version, but perhaps on a par with the Big Radials version (if memory serves me correctly). The Big Radials version is too crazy on takeoff / landing and the Flight Replicas version is too placid haha. With regards to the P-40N "lacking character", really I was referring to the sounds / engine behaviour / lack of any vibrations, smoke etc.
There is still no perfect P-40 available for the sim, with each version having its own strengths / weaknesses. I gather the Big Radials P-40 will be getting an update at some point, so it will be interesting to see what that brings. . .
I hope that clarifies things a little? All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes, thanks a lot! That clarifies things! Aside from the semi-insane handling during take-off and landing I quite like how the BR feels. Looking forward to the update which presumably will arrive some time in the future - given how much more rounded the Goose is I think it's safe to assume that Big Radials have learned a trick or two.
Great flight, love the scenery. For that engine, that was one of the smoothest starts in the sim???
Hit like THEN watch the video! !! !!!
Haha, cheers Mark! I'm glad you enjoyed the flight / scenery (BBD always do a nice job there).
Yes, MSFS engine starts are a little underwhelming at the best of times, but the P-40N's engine start was really far too straightforward / abrupt. Hopefully once they're done with the Comanche, A2A will come in and save us on the warbird front! ; )
Many thanks as always : )
@ItB - what warbird is the most fun to fly would you say (MSFS)
For me it's the Flying Iron Spitfire. I really like the F4U Corsair too, now that I've finally gotten good at landing that beast.
Oooof, that's a tough one to be honest Haden haha!
Anything by FlyingIron is pretty excellent and I really enjoy Aerosoft's FG-1D also. I think the FlyingIron F6F currently has the best warbird flight model in the sim, the FG-1D needs an update, but overall makes me "feel" like I am flying a warbird more than any other MSFS addon and the Spit MK IX holds a special place for me, largely because it's a Spit haha (looking out over that eliptical wing just never gets old!). If I had to choose only one, it probably be the Spitfire (for the aforementioned reason), but in terms of "fun to fly", if you want a more realistic flight model, the F6F is probably your best bet, if you want a challenge, then the FG-1D will make life difficult for you ; )
I hope that helps a litte. All the best! : )
I really like the look of this p-40 over the others. It's a shame the price is so high. I'll probably wait and catch it on sale at some point. Either that or I'll just settle with one of the cheaper ones. I can't justify buying it at its current price.
Hi JB,
I see you went with the iniBuilds version in the end - good call I would say. I too prefer the look of the Flight Replicas version (internally at least), but the visuals don’t justify the extra cost and in most respects the products are otherwise on a par with one another.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
I can't get a pilot to show...is there a trick???
There is EW ; )
I’m afraid I can’t remember exactly what the trick is (there is a clickspot somewhere in the cockpit), but it’s detailed in the manual.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Are u gonna try the dch-4 23 februari
Hi Wesley,
So long as the aircraft releases on time, most likely I will, yes : )
Cheers!
Not sure about the 3-point takeoff there. Doesn't seem very realistic + the V-1710 torque effect would be lethal at that speed.
The Big Radials one is my fav for now, but I'd buy this if they (greatly) improve it as those late-model P-40s look cool.
Haha, indeed Roland; typically I actually try and force a 3-point takeoff in the sim (whilst not realistic, it tends to help a lot with MSFS' rather sub-par tailwheel ground handling), but this was one of the few times I wasn't looking to do so, as the aircraft was so placid on the ground - the liftoff rather caught me off guard XD
All things considered, I think the iniBuilds version is my current favourite, but it's still not fantastic. The Big Radials P-40 is apparently getting an update at some point, which would be exciting, as the team has come on a long way since they released the WarHawk!
Cheers : )
I also jumped on this one after having bought the two earlier versions from Big Radials and IniBuilds in hope for the definitive MSFS P-40 (due to price tag). I have to say I'm really disappointed. Granted, exterior and interior modeling is really good and I specifically like the wide selection of liveries on offer. However, texturing is surprisingly low resolution on the outside and sounds are really bad. I like the engine sound (don't mind if it's from the P-51) but startup is not convincing. Paired with no sound at all from operating the canopy mechanism and no sound change with windows open or closed as well as totally wrong sounds for primer and cowling flaps, that's really bad. And the list goes on (mixture etc....). Finally, the dedicated airshow model with modern radio doesn't do anything on the aileron control once in the air. It's simply broken and can't be used! I thought Asobo is testing all submittals for the marketplace? Certainly not in this regard! And all that for a premium price.
Ultimately, it's not bad and still fun to fly, but it could, no, should have been so much more.
Hi Scudrace,
Yes, sadly the P-40N just doesn't live up to the standards that it ought to (given the price). I very much agree with all of your observations. I missed the airshow flight model issues and that's a bit laughable to be frank. Asobo does check the addons, but I think it's more with regards to the integrity of the files, making sure no malicious software is included with the download etc - clearly (given some of the addons that make it onto the Marketplace) quality control is not something they invest in too heavily XD
The Flight Replicas P-40 has potential, but quite a lot of work is still needed before the addon justifies its price. . .
All the best! : )
Lots of bugs RUN in XSX
A faithful representation of the Warhawk, but truthfully, I just didn't enjoy it. Still, you did a good job on this video.
Hi Wanderer,
Yes, it's certainly hard to fault the visual modelling, but sadly there are others areas of the addon that could be much improved. I was really hoping that *this* would be the most well-rounded MSFS P-40 to date, but unfortunately that didn't really transpire.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video at any rate! Cheers and all the best : )
A2A definitely did a better job!!!!
Absolutely Matt, no comparison. I’m really hoping after the Comanche, we’ll see an A2A warbird grace the MSFS skies!
All the best : )