The Sad Story of Brok’s Riddle - God of War Ragnarok Brok Tells a Riddle All Scenes + Dialogue
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Here is EVERY Scene with Brok and Sindri in God of War Ragnarok! ua-cam.com/video/VlyU-Uw5mGg/v-deo.html
What runs with no legs?
Nose
Mouth
Paint
Hot tar (roof thatch)
River/water
Blood
The thing about Brok is that he is a simple man. Mimir thought too hard about the riddle, overestimating how far Brok would go to in making a complex riddle. It’s why no one but Brok caught onto Odin’s disguise as Tyr. He saw the simple discrepancies, the way he just didn’t act right. Everyone else was too busy thinking hard about everything going on around them to even notice the details, when they shoulda been focusing on the closer things. We’ll miss you Brok, ya blacksmithing loud-mouth you.
and now he's leaving a bigger hole in our hearts. RIP Brok 😥
tbh his death is worse than Arthur’s, like it was so unexpected and Sindri’s reaction makes it worse
@Ultimate Sora I meant Arthur in Red Dead Redemption 2
Fr "All the pieces ain't welding together true" one of the coldest lines from a sidecharacter in a scene that seemed so lighthearted
@@johnnyboy3410 I don't think you can properly compare the two, still Brok died was too unexpected and quite painful, for Arthur's died we had plenty of time to get ready for it before it happened, still really painful.
It’s not sad that Brok never knew Mimir solved the riddle. Better for him to pass on feeling the satisfaction of stumping the smartest man in the 9 realms
Tru that
Agreed
Hehe. Stumping...
@@Kevin-hx2kyhehe. Humping. Hehe. Jumping. Hehe. Clumping.
Honestly, he barely even solved it. Saying you've won when your partner can't hear you're still playing without them is a bit like cheating
As much as it breaks my heart, I’m so glad that writers left Sindri’s character in this spot. It’s way more realistic than if he forgave Kratos and Atreyus immediately.
Agreed. It’s so much more powerful. Same way I’m glad there wasn’t a side quest to bring brok back. Plus it’s this extra layer of pain for Sindri that, while he’s angry at Atreus and Kratos for Brok’s death, he’s more angry at himself. Because of his selfish choice to bring Brok back incomplete, now Brok can never find rest, or be remade in the light.
But why should sindri forgive? Everyone was deceived by Odin , it wasn’t anyone’s fault, perhaps if brok wasn’t so pushy he might still be alive, Odin was about to get caught up regardless
@@MistaDillyMonnn don’t victim blame Brok.
Also, anger and wanting forgiveness isn’t always about wanting to assign blame. Sometimes you’re just angry
I have a feeling Sindri is going to be an extreme Badass in the next game
I get the anger towards atreus but the anger towards kratos never made sense to me.. he literally did nothing of the things which sindri accused atreus of and on top of that he was on good terms with brok, the scene in which kratos asked brok to bless his spear despite it not having any effects and being more of a formal thing really showed that. He called him a true blacksmith back there and that coming from kratos speaks volumes. Now sure he wasnt on good terms with sindi but that doesnt justify the behavior for me.
Mimir finding it out at the riddle at the funeral is doubly sad, because it was hinted on that Sindri was the 'Hole' and as more and more of him was 'taken' (his home space, his safety, his brother) the hole, emptiness and nothingness, just got bigger and bigger
And now he's spurred his closest friends as well, the hole in his heart is growing bigger still.
Yes, we all got that
I love it when brok laughs how many time mimir try to guess but failed
At first, unfortunately the answer was really dark, what would happen if Mimir answered it before his death ?
After the funeral Mimir gets a letter left by Brok reading “it’s not a hole you daft Goat”
He would do that, too. damn, I miss him. Wonder if there's a way to save him, maybe suss things out before he gets killed....
wait, for real?
no
@@rifarira9160 no
Mimir would definitely laugh, remarking how Brok has outsmarted him, how much he misses the loudmouth.
To think until the final moment I didn’t realize what I would assume would be a funny banter between them was a sad metaphor for what Sindri would become. The answer easily seen once Mimir saw his state
Not just the loss of his brother, but also him pushing everyone away, both friends and people he considered family. The hole of loss gets bigger and revenge did nothing except leave him undistracted from feeling that hole.
I too was stumped by the riddle. Brok was truly a great mind & a great smith. He lives on forever within us
This is an old riddle that many people know. You are kinda overthinking it.
I always thought the answer was space.
@@babasemka it is what it is
@@BrotherBozeman Nice input, good to know...
I learned that riddle in The Wacky Adventures of Ronald McDonald VHS. The one where they go to a “haunted” house with puzzles and riddles.
It also had:
“What is it you can feel outside, hear inside, and only see when it’s full of dust.”
“What costs nothing, but is worth everything. Weighs nothing, but lasts a lifetime. That one person can’t own, but two can share.”
The game really doesn't even let you feel at peace that his soul is in Hel or Valhalla, it crushes u with the realization that there is no afterlife for him and you have to live with that knowledge
Technically speaking: Sindri wasn’t able to get the luck portion of his soul because it got stuck in the well of souls. so in a way, a piece of Brok made it into the afterlife-just not the whole thing
@@garrisonjones1827 wasnt it direction that got stuck?
@@RandomYTT39 Point being: at least a spec of him got there
@@garrisonjones1827 ok
@@garrisonjones1827 I thought that if he didn't have the direction portion he couldn't get there at all
‘Any more guesses Belt Boy?’ 😂
One of my top 3 favourite lines
Along with ‘olives’ followed by ‘the hells an olive?’
Then my favourite ‘biiig footprint’ then ‘Smartest. Man. Alive.’
"Don't forget me All-Fucker" is also a classic 🤣
@@1992mattyowen Odin: What did you call me!?
@@haroldgodwinson4778
(Mimir): “That one’s for Brok!!”
« What is that ? Dead. »
"Hey, try puttin your hand in that thing"
The way Mimir mimicked Brok at 1:37. Also, Kratos was right when he guessed 'nothing'. What is a hole, if not a spot of nothingness?
Well it was more that he was close. Nothing is the absence of things, you can’t take away nothing. But a hole is nothing inside of something. Or more accurately, “A hollowed place in something solid; a cavity or pit.” so you can take away parts of that something and be left with a bigger hole.
@@cheezeebutter452 yeah, but conversely if you think of 'nothing' as 'nothingness' taking away something contributes to more nothingness, you can't take away something from nothing because it's already nothing but you can increase the amount of nothingness.
@@jaredlapierre1304 True
I got the answer to the the riddle instantly when i heard it, mimir has nothing on me 😤😤
The fact that Mimir was triggered for so long by Brok's Riddle was great 😭🤣
I've never laughed this much in any game before. So many genuinely funny moments. And those moments never break any tension for any other moments. So perfectly done.
And then it manages to rip your heart out
10/10
Sindri's grief is what breaks me... 😭
💯🥺🥺
He brought it upon himself
@@samueladeniyi3704 He kinda did, tbh... If Brok died the old-fashioned way, he'd have no one else to blame. Still, it's understandable that he's angry, but his anger is greatly misplaced.
And that’s the hole sindri was left with
I really like how hearty Brok's laugh is. RIP Blue Guy.
by the time we met him he was already dead.
i really like the depth in this ending, was just a simple riddle. mimir finally figures it out and then the riddle becomes deep, a hole.... in their heart
Brok was the best damn blacksmith in all the 9 realms and sucks that there is no afterlife for him😢
This part was written so perfectly tbh, Mimi’s struggling so much which lightened up broks mood when he found out that he died, then finally figuring it out at his funeral, saying a hole just like how brok leaves the player with a certain emptiness after his death
Dat last scene. Man. Poor Sindri.
Amazing writing and scripting and to see it play out throughout to the end was harrowing. Kratos and Atreus kept 'taking' from Sindri and now that is what he is at the very least emotionally: a hole.
I think the one taking was atreus, kratos didn't really take anything from Sindri. It was Atreus trying to find clues that brought "Tyr" in that situation where brokk died
To be fair, Sindri and Brok were the ones who kept offering stuff. Heck he and Brok built that house with the intent of inviting Kratos and Atreus to stay, given the extra rooms that were present. And Kratos is often nice to Brok and tolerates Sindri's eccentricities.
worst part is brok will never find peace..his soul was not whole so he didn't reach the afterlife
Very few moments in games made me feel and this was one of them. Brok was so relatable and was one of the very few people Kratos considered a true friend
I'm a grown man and Broks death/Sindris change brings me to tears everytime I come back to rewatch these scenes
Mimir: "I can't let that blue twat beat me!"
Kratos: "If you are this upset, he already has."
Man i can hear Kratos smirk in that comment, he's clearly amused by how much Brok has stumped mimir with this riddle. Brok lives in his head rent free XD
Wasn't a big Brok fan in the first game. But he won me over in the Ragnarok and the riddles were my favorite bits of dialogue throughout. Didn't expect it to be the saddest part too.
My first guess was desire. My second and final guess was grief.
In the end, I wasn’t far off😢
The thing that guts me the most about the funeral scene is the fact that Sindri is covered in filth. A very small detail but a beautiful one, rich with meaning.
Brok and Sindri are two of the best characters this franchise has ever created. So complex yet very friendly.
The irony of this riddle is that after Brok's death, the hole in Sindri's heart grew bigger.
What hart?
Brok was the first person Kratos ran into and became friends with in GoW 2018. I'll never forget that intro
*"know whats adequate? That foot work, you stepped in Shit!"* 😂
A very subtle thing here is Sindri pushing Kratos's arm away. In a behind the scenes, the director explains that in an earlier scene (the one where Freyr is taken away delirious after the boat) Brett Dalton was putting his hand on Christopher Judge in solidarity, but Christopher told the director "he can't do that, Kratos would rip his arm off for that" and so it was changed for Freyr to fist bump the air - here, Sindri not only gets in Kratos's space, but physically deflects him and Kratos does *NOTHING*. He doesn't back down, but he also doesn't assert himself. For a brief moment, Sindri is superior, which the camera angle supports by showing Sindri in the light and Kratos in the dark.
Kratos knows that Sindri is right to be upset, and so does not assert himself, but does not back down because he wants to show Sindri that he is not alone in his grief. An unspoken assurance that they will respect his need for time and distance, but also that they will still be here to welcome him back with open arms if and when he decides he is ready to return.
Technically Kratos gets in Sindri’s space first since Kratos touch his shoulder which sindri then pushes off. But agree with the rest
"I can't let that blue twat beat me" 😂😂
Kratos: Sindri, Brok was trying to tell us a riddle, do you know of it?
Well this is one hell of a mood swing. It was funny at first to see Mimir get upset over Brok’s riddle and then it gets depressing af the moment he finally figures it out.
I could be wrong but a subtle detail that I noticed. Is that when Mimir tells Kratos the answer to the riddle. Kratos seems to look at where Sindri was for just a moment before looking back at Mimir. I could be wrong in my interpretation, but I think this subtle gesture means that Kratos understood what Mimir meant when saying it then.
You forgot a riddle Mimir asked to Kratos. It's the "once spoken, instantly broken" dialogue.
silence
@@Nemo581 Correct!
@@astrov7iiHe wasn’t answering the riddle
@@alastortheradiodemon469 "Oh."
What hurts most about Broks death is the fact that he literally can't pass on. He's stuck forever, not knowing where to go, and out of all the characters.. he didn't deserve that kind of fate.
well thanks to his idiot brother
@@aramsarkisyan8061 Sindri only did what any brother would do. Especially if that's the only family he had left
@@sageofsparda3764 I mean probably if you live in our universe. However with rules of the GOW universe the real death is losing afterlife - the fate even the worst of creatures don't face. His actions practically killed his soul trying to save his body, which his far worse
@@aramsarkisyan8061 I mean I don't disagree with what you're saying logically speaking. Emotionally speaking (which is probably what Sindri was only using after Brok died the first time), Sindri just didn't want to lose his brother. Just like how Freya didn't want to lose her son after finding out from the Norns that he is going to die a meaningless death which is why she placed the spell on him that she did. My point is, people will do anything and everything they can from losing a loved one regardless of the consequences, and a lot of times logic gets thrown to the wayside because of that.
When it's Sindri's time to go, Brok won't be there waiting for him.
Lesson learn guys, don't give everything you have. Instead, give them what they need and teach them how to get.
No one is going to talk about how freya hit the boat correctly.
I always find it so funny when Kratos says “the first door. Spikes are easily avoided” so confidently
The game had really sad scenes. The scene that finally made me cry was when Mimir solved Brok’s riddle. Idk why…
Sindri at 4:54 looks at Kratos angry because he wants to blame Kratos and Atreus. But if Sindri hadn't pulled Brok put of the light once already, he wouldn't be so broken
Instead Sindri caused Broks death to be 10x worse knowing he doesn't even get an afterlife, Broks final words being
"I forgive ya" are heartbreaking. Because brok forgave him but Sindri will never forgive himself
This game ripped my heart out.
Would you say it left a hole?
Imagine mimir admitting he knew the answer the whole time, he just wanted brok to feel good.
(Doesnt really work cause mimir dragged it out so long lol but yeah..)
Since Brok can’t be replaced, he will remain one of the few favourable characters within the God of War franchise. And I do mean it. Which, I bet, that Sindri will take some time to heal for few games, till their good and ready to bring Sindri back for a final round or helping out with the dwarves without feeling alone.
But I do get the feeling that he might be mentioned in the next game, depending on how creative some characters get brought up for the next adventure.
It's hard to watch Mimir's quest to solve Brok's riddle because it takes the death of Brok for Mimir to figure it out, and it's what Sindri has in his heart in the end. A hole that may never be filled again. 🕳
Pretty nice that the riddle coincides with Sindri’s grief
The funny thing is that Kratos was actually close to guessing the answer right.
Brok will never be forgotten
After Sindri "teleported" away, Mimir said 'A hole' I thought he was calling Sindri an Asshole 😭
"Gets bigger the more you take away."
"We're at a funeral and you're thinking of a riddle?"
Mimir was probably about to say something about how Brok's death left a hole in everyone's heart (especially Sindri's) and that's when he finally realized the answer.
@@13lackout360 oh.... oh that's good... I love that
Mimir: what's heavier? A kilogram of steel? Or a kilogram of feathers?
Sindri's guilt.
So it will represents the hole in Sindri's heart. fckin brilliant writing
I think my favorite moment is Mimir silently trying to stump Kratos, to make himself feel better about being stumped by Brok, lol
Funny that he didn't dismay any time Kratos got it right, he actually got excited about it!
A Hole was exactly what was left after finishing Ragnarok :(
I remember this riddle from an old McDonalds VHS tape from way back. Was neat to see the riddle in the game. Was a punch to the gut for when Mimir figured it out.
Kratos came strapped to the funeral
well, everyone else too
Brok would definitely want weapons at his funeral
Stay strapped or get clapped
Most of us didn’t realize what the riddle was truly hinting at until it was too late.
The rest of us knew the answer to the riddle.
I think the devs just have fun when is mimir kratos and brok even when he says "love" for the answer and brok trolls mimir even kratos agree
I love you Santa Monica studios but don’t toy with my heart like this again because. This is too sad you broke the most wholesome character in god of war Sindri.😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I thought Mimir was just calling Sindri an A-hole at first. 😂😂😂
He would have pronounced it differently.
the entire time I played this game the riddle infuriated me, because I knew the answer from the start and was just yelling at mimir to get the answer
then the funeral scene happened and I didn't know what to feel
A hole.
What?
*Gets bigger the more you take away.*
Me: "My stomach"
Kratos: "What?"
Me: "Gets bigger the more you eat takeaways...."
Mimir must have been thinking, Brok has left a hole in Sindri
Why Brok, why the f… Brok, I was screaming the whole time why Brok, he’s my favorite character in the game after Mimr
RIP LEGEND 😢
“Smartest man alive…”
in the funeral kratos says "brok was" then mimir says "a hole". so the sentence is "brok was a hole"
Brok was a dwarf, who beat the smartest man alive who had the power to bestow divine knowledge unto others... That's a big achievement in itself for one lifetime...
he was the only one not fooled by odin, the only dwarf to gain kratos respect and be his friend
Kratos' guess of "Nothing" was better than all of Mimir's.
They burned a bridge with Freya in the last game. Now they’ve burned one with Sindri.
For Mimir's riddle:3 doors before you,one a lot of spikes,another with dragon and another with a pair of lions that haven't been fed in weeks.
One lion would eat the other,giving them plenty of food
For how long?
Would you be able to do a compilation of all the reference's to Scotland and England?
A quick Google search shows "One shrine to Tyr features the Celtic Triskelion, another nod to Mimir's home folklore, alongside the Greek Omega symbol and Egypt's Eye of Horus. Tyr's temple contains items from around the world, with Mimir recognizing a Sgian-dubh knife as a relic from his homeland of Scotland."
@@CountryboyAR 1. That's clearly not all, as that's seems to be just 2018, and probably not all of it. As in Ragnarok there are tons more
2. I'd specifically want it in a video format, with proof
Plus it's been that long someone might have done it by now
One of the saddest call backs.
when mimir said the answer to the riddle is "hole", i was surprise to know how simple the answer is but then amazed by how profound the meaning is in someone life
What gets bigger, the more you take away?
A hole......
.......debt.......
_........revenge......_
That was the best way to answer the riddle.
Mimir had some good guesses but I would have never thought a hole.
Brok will never be forgotten
What's gets bigger the more you take away?
-the hole in Sindris' heart
The answer should not have hit like how it did when I first heard it! “Oh shit! 😢”
oh.... that's.... I need some time alone.
Here's a few easy ones:
When I'm cold, I'm as hard as a rock, but touch as I am now, and you'll melt on the spot.
I live in the jungles and savannas and can have spots or stripes. I can break your bones for my jaws have such might.
I am as old as the earth and can help produce life, but look at me too long, and I'll damage your sight.
Here is a riddle from me.
*I am loud to some but quiet to others.*
*Who am I?*
An introvert
Kratos came close to figuring out the riddle with the nothing answer. Too bad mimir didn't realize that
Almost close, Mimir. The more you love someone, than bigger is the hole when you lose them
I hope that they have a way to revive Brok in the next series.
just like how Fenrir's soul went into Garn's body, because Artreus was with him, I hope that Brok's soul was transfered into the dagger or the mask. and part of the next game goal is to revive him and make peace with Sindri from there.
Sadly, that may not be so.
Fenrir's soul was whole and was whispered into the knife.
Brok is missing a piece of his soul, the piece that guides him into the next life. Without it, he cannot enter the next life, and there's nothing to bring back :(
And worst still, there was no prayer as he was dying, so his soul is even less likely to have been captured, especially since Sindri left with his brother's body almost immediately.
The One time kratos didn't get angry or square up when someone(barley)got in his face 4:59
Just finished ragnarok. I was so shocked odin was disguised as Tyr😢. Rip Brok
i couldnt help but find it a bit odd that the guy with the title smartest man alive couldnt figure out the riddle.
I never understood this part of the hole until now😢
My wife guessed a hole and I dismissed her. I haven't yet told her she was right
Damn.. was Brok talking about Sindri the entire time??
5:23 now I understand why Mimir got the riddle. He thought of Sindri as an a**hole and then, he thouht of sayingnit but withpht the double S, and his light bulb got on!
Kratos likes riddles the same way Doug from Up likes jokes.
Sindri blames everybody but himself
No, Sindri blames himself too. He knows Brok has been denied the afterlife because of his actions the first time he died, and I don’t doubt for a fact that he blames himself. Hell, he probably can never forgive himself for it. He just finds it easier to blame everyone else for it, rather than admit his mistake.
The loss of Brok weighs heavily on me but my heart sings for Sindri. I haven't even played any God of War game and it still hits me hard cause I love Brok's attitude. He will be missed.
I wish brok didn’t die honestly he’s the only guy to abuse kratos n get away with it 😢