It was. But he also wasn’t dead on board and they had 16 damage on board (counting Pendel haven) there’s a chance he could have lived through their turn. To draw the drain 1 next turn. But we will never know ; P Obviously any lord and it’s over though so not saying it was likely.
@@uncountablyinfinite3429 I imagine he’s making a play on words, since he’s playing Lightning Bolts off Necrodomimance. A lot of Magic strategies are portmanteaus of the most central cards.
@@uncountablyinfinite3429sometimes people don't really realize what they're saying when they say it. he was thinking about the word dominance and goofed which dominance card he was talking about
@32:40 I know hindsight is 20/20 but there was really no reason to sac the energy enchantment. If you had waited until your turn you would have won by tapping the peatland to make 2 energy from both enchantments and could sac both for lethal
29:00 you can also avoid that issue with forbidden orchard by clicking the spell first, then activating mana abilities to pay for it. That way it won’t let you finish casting it if you mistap (it’s also better because it doesn’t give opp priority before the spell is cast, since the trigger happens afterwards.)
Seth is obsessed with unnecessarily shocking in a blood crypt when he could have just fetched a swamp in a deck where you want as much life as possible
18:30 hilariously, the issue between machinations and vortex wouldnt have happened with the modern wording of "this ability triggers only once each turn"
I knew this would be a thrilling and sometimes hilarious run and wasn't disappointed. What I did want to see was a match against mill so you could see that you are wasting a sideboard slot on Emrakul when Necro makes mill unable to win. No draw step = no loss with an empty deck. And mill doesn't play anything else to beat you with so you can just sit there and stare at them until THEY mill out. It's glorious irony just and emotionally shatters them more thoroughly than a shuffled Emmy undoing all their hard work.
I was brewing a deck with chancellor of the dross and soul spike a while back. It had a very similar feel but I went in a different direction. In my case instead of orchard+rakdos charm I was running grove of the burnwillow and needlebite trap. I also had serum powder to be sure to hit those chancellor in the opening hand. I always thought the deck was missing a little something to really push it and necrodominance seem to be it. I also see an opportunity with vito, thorn of the dusk rose, which didn't exist back then. Looking at your sideboard I would consider putting 4x creeping chill instead of emrakul. That's up to 12 damage that the opponent work for instead of you and still useful as a black card for soul spike.
...yes normal burn can win turn 3. It's just more magical christmas land than practical. Turn 3 caps at 18 non-combat damage (so a single shockland makes it possible). It can also turn 3 off of a double swiftspear. (t1 1 damage, t2 7, t3 can get up to 17, total of 25) These all take 8 or 9 cards, so it requires the perfect hand into the right topdeck(s).
33:00 OK, there was no reason to cast that Rakdos Charm early. You could've easily waited until their next turn to see if they played one more creature, since Soul Spike doesn't cost mana to cast. Still loving the deck, though!
This video might have a record number of Seth card name moments. Calling Necrodominance Electrodominance, Necrocharm and calling priest of titania wellwisher
New Sorin might be cool in this shell since Soul Spike and Machinations allow you to flip him immediately and -1 for more damage. An Okiba trigger + an extort + an attack would do it too. Being a 1/4 to block sleeper agent and having extort to push in extra damage also seems useful against aggro and control. I would probably move the Bowmasters to the sideboard or remove the Rakdos Charm package for him
29:00 And that's why you select the card you want to cast first before paying for it [(move it to the stack first in paper) like you're supposed to)]. So things like that don't happen since the game won't let you do anything other than pay the correct colours after clicking on a card.
There are technically two cards called Pick Your Poison, the one from Karlov Manor and one that was in playtest boosters and had a modal effect that was either counters, creating a token with deathtouch, or giving creatures -2/-2. It's a very different concept than the official PYP, and the playtest PYP isn't legal in any formats, but they do have the same name.
love mono black burn. also, thank you for not having music in your videos Seth. Can listen to some of my own choice (though i'm sure you'd play some bangers, seeing as you're big into music)
in a recent vid, you talked about what kamigawa sagas were good and i thought of okiba reckoner raid. it's good enough for my budget pioneer burn deck, and now it's confirmed modern playable!
54:28 Awesome stuff, black burn is always fun. Just thought to point out, if you would have Soul Spike in response to the Bolt, Scourge of the Skyclaves would have died as a -2/-2 😉
Technically it is possible for Modern Burn to win on T3 but it's pretty fucking unlikely, requires the absolute "God Draw" and a lot of other stuff to go right as well but it is technically possible.
40:55 Seth stating Tamiyo isnt good, and the game he just played shows that tamiyo isnt good. also Seth: Scooped to tamiyo activation 3 minutes prior because there's no way he could beat it.
39:00 Wow the calculator says this is a 0.131% chance (drawing 12 of 20 lands in 19 cards) not to mention it is even lower in practice since you're less likely to keep 5 to 7 land hands.
30:45 that was an early scoop you could play a land and cast curse totem you would stop esuri and all his mana generation and probably get a turn out of it
29:01 Not Seth tapping the Blood Crypt for Red for absolutely no reason, then tapping Forbidden Orchard for Red, also for no reason, when he’s casting a mono-Black card…
I'd say make Rakdos charm a 1-of, and replace with 3 Marches in the MB. Then, you can fix your mana base too and add more Rakdos lands or even a basic mountain
Hopeless Nightmare does everything this deck wants on top of filtering out cards. Comes in at 1 black mana as well and filter for 3 later on in the game. Might help out.
can this arquetipe even be done in standard? i have a deck with sheoldred, the apocalypse + bloodletter of aclazotz + caustic bronco + insatiable avarice + rush of dread, it kills with indirect damage but tries to do it all in the same action. also, can mono black devotion in pioneer be called black burn?
This video gave me the awful idea of a trespasser’s curse deck with phantasm and tamiyo so their tokens don’t matter. She can also buy back rakdos charms! And curse/charm hurt nadu very badly.
Seems like it should. Rakdos Charm says "• Each creature deals 1 damage to its controller." So the source of the damage is the creature, not Rakdos Charm. Which means the following applies: "120.3b Damage dealt to a player by a source with infect causes that source’s controller to give the player that many poison counters." Lifelink should also apply, for what it's worth.
Seth complaining about flooding out like that isn’t just a part of the burn experience. You can’t call yourself a burn player unless half your games end with the opponent at 1 life after top decking lands for 3 turns in a row.
I hate the Rakdos charm package being in this deck tbh. Even against elves, it just feels like it doesn’t synergize enough with the rest of the deck at all.
this isnt even the craziest thing you can do with necrodominance. my friend is building a deck that centers around landing necrodominance, sheoldred, and a stuffy doll. you draw to like 1 health, then use the black march to blast stuffy doll to kill oppo. extra spicy. you should build it seth, its peak ATO.
Such a sweet deck. The surveil land seems really bad though. I don't think you want tapped lands in an aggro/combo deck. Should definitely just be another Blood Crypt.
The issue with this deck is it just folds to so much incidental hate decks are playing for not even this matchup. Specifically veil of summer and chalice (on one)
That Veil of Summer was brutal
It was. But he also wasn’t dead on board and they had 16 damage on board (counting Pendel haven) there’s a chance he could have lived through their turn. To draw the drain 1 next turn. But we will never know ; P
Obviously any lord and it’s over though so not saying it was likely.
I died laughing that it happened after all his bravado.
Can't wait to see that one in the next compilation of plays of the year
OOOOH NOOOOO! 😂
Stings even more that he could have had safe lethal with the 2 Gontis Machinations.
Cracking it early is always a punt
Seth discovering the interaction between Drain Life and Necro in the modern age brings a tear to my eye
The old days of Necro Bloom! What a wild time. Glad they didn't make a "scuffed" version of Cadaverous Bloom. lol
What makes u think he thought of this because he was not the brain behind this have even seen it in commander just a bit different
21:09 "Raccoon Theater" One day Wizards will release a Secret Lair based on Seth's curious way of pronouncing cards.
Bugler Rat
I don't buy secret lairs anymore, but I'd buy that in a heartbeat. The SaffronOlive drop
@@neminem233 📯📯📯📯
The bonus card would be a gruul land that’s a grove of saffron and olives
Mechinations
The emotion behind that "Nooooooo" is what Vader's should have had.
Oh fuck yeah they got emerakul for mill and then of course emrakul for mill ( 4:35 )
😂
Every time I see multiple one rings played, I always wish the one ring was restricted to one copy because of flavor
Token comment whining about TOR
One Ring Commander card confirmed.
33:20 - 33:33, you can see the life leave his eyes at this very moment.
It's a cruel, cruel Veil of Summer
Opponent with the ultimate slow-roll... they knew it would make good content, haha
the downside of black burn that no one ever considered
But he wasn't dead right? Op didn't have lethal and he could have drawn the raid for the last point next turn. Am I wrong?
“Vortext” is a new one
I wish it was but he's actually been saying it for years
How about “Electrodominance” 10:36 this one baffles me beyond belief
@@uncountablyinfinite3429 I imagine he’s making a play on words, since he’s playing Lightning Bolts off Necrodomimance. A lot of Magic strategies are portmanteaus of the most central cards.
@@uncountablyinfinite3429sometimes people don't really realize what they're saying when they say it. he was thinking about the word dominance and goofed which dominance card he was talking about
i heard “vortexed”
That pick your poison took your comment personally 😂
@32:40 I know hindsight is 20/20 but there was really no reason to sac the energy enchantment. If you had waited until your turn you would have won by tapping the peatland to make 2 energy from both enchantments and could sac both for lethal
Electrodominance looking really strong
28:08 my new favorite "sethism" - "welp, rakdos or necro charm!"
Veil of Summer made Seth "WOWW" so powerfully that he needed to readjust his headphones 😭
29:00 you can also avoid that issue with forbidden orchard by clicking the spell first, then activating mana abilities to pay for it. That way it won’t let you finish casting it if you mistap (it’s also better because it doesn’t give opp priority before the spell is cast, since the trigger happens afterwards.)
"Cyberpunk Biker Rats" Wait till Seth finds out about Biker Mice from Mars....
That show was surprisingly watchable
the elfball throw is content
I loved black burn so many years ago xD Im so happy to see this new updated version with bowmasters and necro
Bonus points if you cast the trap off of them Ragavan-ing one of your many drain spells!
I love the spike of price from soul spike
Seth is obsessed with unnecessarily shocking in a blood crypt when he could have just fetched a swamp in a deck where you want as much life as possible
18:30 hilariously, the issue between machinations and vortex wouldnt have happened with the modern wording of "this ability triggers only once each turn"
When Seth leaves your Roiling Vortext on "read"
So glad to see mtgo content from yall 🎉🎉
I knew this would be a thrilling and sometimes hilarious run and wasn't disappointed. What I did want to see was a match against mill so you could see that you are wasting a sideboard slot on Emrakul when Necro makes mill unable to win. No draw step = no loss with an empty deck. And mill doesn't play anything else to beat you with so you can just sit there and stare at them until THEY mill out. It's glorious irony just and emotionally shatters them more thoroughly than a shuffled Emmy undoing all their hard work.
I was brewing a deck with chancellor of the dross and soul spike a while back. It had a very similar feel but I went in a different direction. In my case instead of orchard+rakdos charm I was running grove of the burnwillow and needlebite trap.
I also had serum powder to be sure to hit those chancellor in the opening hand.
I always thought the deck was missing a little something to really push it and necrodominance seem to be it.
I also see an opportunity with vito, thorn of the dusk rose, which didn't exist back then.
Looking at your sideboard I would consider putting 4x creeping chill instead of emrakul. That's up to 12 damage that the opponent work for instead of you and still useful as a black card for soul spike.
See a Seth modern Video: instant click.
W, U, R, G: "Look what I can do!!"
B: "Look what I can do better."
...yes normal burn can win turn 3. It's just more magical christmas land than practical. Turn 3 caps at 18 non-combat damage (so a single shockland makes it possible). It can also turn 3 off of a double swiftspear. (t1 1 damage, t2 7, t3 can get up to 17, total of 25) These all take 8 or 9 cards, so it requires the perfect hand into the right topdeck(s).
Seth I didn't catch it why are you playing Emrakul?
Sideboard option against mill.
@@l337tub Damn, right over your head.
Didn't you hear?! Emrakul for mill!
There’s also an Emrakul in there for mill.
Seth is back in MTGO!!!!!
Once Modern settles back into being hostile to brews in a few weeks he'll not be back on it for a bit
@@TheEvolver311 black burn isn't even a brew it's a legitimate deck. He just put necro in it.
@BludMun
Burn in general in Modern isn't a tier 1.5 deck anymore. And really, black burn was an even less viable version.
@@TheEvolver311 nobody said it was a tier 1 deck
@BludMun
Ok technically every deck that ever existed in standard is a real deck in Modern then
I have bad flight anxiety but the Black burn videos are my favorite so thanks for making my flight more tolerable🙃
33:00 OK, there was no reason to cast that Rakdos Charm early. You could've easily waited until their next turn to see if they played one more creature, since Soul Spike doesn't cost mana to cast.
Still loving the deck, though!
Loved the original budget magic deck, and this update doesn't disappoint. I might have to try modern now.
Return of the Black Burn!!!! I love it❤
This video might have a record number of Seth card name moments. Calling Necrodominance Electrodominance, Necrocharm and calling priest of titania wellwisher
To be fair, Priest of Titania and Wellwisher are only like 2 words apart.
"planar genius"
New Sorin might be cool in this shell since Soul Spike and Machinations allow you to flip him immediately and -1 for more damage. An Okiba trigger + an extort + an attack would do it too. Being a 1/4 to block sleeper agent and having extort to push in extra damage also seems useful against aggro and control. I would probably move the Bowmasters to the sideboard or remove the Rakdos Charm package for him
42:00 you could flashback the bump in the night :0
29:00 And that's why you select the card you want to cast first before paying for it [(move it to the stack first in paper) like you're supposed to)]. So things like that don't happen since the game won't let you do anything other than pay the correct colours after clicking on a card.
What does seth mean by get the wrong version of pick your poison?
In a previous video the editor showed the test version of pick your poison, not the actual card
There are technically two cards called Pick Your Poison, the one from Karlov Manor and one that was in playtest boosters and had a modal effect that was either counters, creating a token with deathtouch, or giving creatures -2/-2. It's a very different concept than the official PYP, and the playtest PYP isn't legal in any formats, but they do have the same name.
So, you're saying you can pick your Pick Your Poison?
@@imaginarymatter and once you’ve picked your Pick Your Poison, and play the Pick you picked, you pick your poison from Pick Your Poison’s poisons..
Not to forget there’s still the 1/1million chance to draw into 4 chancellor 2 spike to turn zero kill your opponent
Good old "This has to be the worst match up". This is why we love a taste of Sethgum.
I fell in love with mono B burn the first time I saw bump in the night
love mono black burn. also, thank you for not having music in your videos Seth. Can listen to some of my own choice (though i'm sure you'd play some bangers, seeing as you're big into music)
I love this archtype. It's always a blast.
in a recent vid, you talked about what kamigawa sagas were good and i thought of okiba reckoner raid. it's good enough for my budget pioneer burn deck, and now it's confirmed modern playable!
54:28 Awesome stuff, black burn is always fun. Just thought to point out, if you would have Soul Spike in response to the Bolt, Scourge of the Skyclaves would have died as a -2/-2 😉
Technically it is possible for Modern Burn to win on T3 but it's pretty fucking unlikely, requires the absolute "God Draw" and a lot of other stuff to go right as well but it is technically possible.
As an elves player myself seeing that Veil of Summer was a beautiful thing to see.
Invert Polarity is fantastic btw, not even a bottom scraping counter!
Rewatched the old black burn vid yesterday! Super coincidental but a fun 1-2 punch 😂
40:55 Seth stating Tamiyo isnt good, and the game he just played shows that tamiyo isnt good.
also Seth: Scooped to tamiyo activation 3 minutes prior because there's no way he could beat it.
Shardless Agent, Electrodominance, iykyk
Electrodominance 😂😂😂 I love you Seth!
I was one card shy of the dream hand with the old form of this deck; 4 Chancellor, 1/2 soul spikes for an almost turn 0
technically it's still turn 1 as the damage doesn't happen from chancellor until upkeep
Is it just me or did Seth concede when he had lethal damage at about 52:00?
Mtgo doenst let me cast my instants on necrodomince endstep, anyone know what to do?
with all the free spells floating around, still surprised they have printed fire blast in modern.
Getting blown out so hard by a Veil of Summer that you're scared of seeing one in a Rakdos deck is wild
Have not watched the video yet, but I'm guessing the deck does incredibly well. Soul Spike JUST spiked from $5 to $37
39:00 Wow the calculator says this is a 0.131% chance (drawing 12 of 20 lands in 19 cards) not to mention it is even lower in practice since you're less likely to keep 5 to 7 land hands.
"Maahhhno black burn" "and I bolt you" =p
30:45 that was an early scoop you could play a land and cast curse totem you would stop esuri and all his mana generation and probably get a turn out of it
So, one of the rules of Magic is that you only get one land drop per turn and only on your turn.
@@rekenner did he not have either a land drop left or a shuko activation?
29:01
Not Seth tapping the Blood Crypt for Red for absolutely no reason, then tapping Forbidden Orchard for Red, also for no reason, when he’s casting a mono-Black card…
4:35
But do you have Emrakul for mill?
Sweet deck Seth!
I'd say make Rakdos charm a 1-of, and replace with 3 Marches in the MB. Then, you can fix your mana base too and add more Rakdos lands or even a basic mountain
Good old Veil of Fort Summer :D
Hopeless Nightmare does everything this deck wants on top of filtering out cards. Comes in at 1 black mana as well and filter for 3 later on in the game. Might help out.
Burn can win on turn three. It usually involves two Swiftspears and a Rift Bolt in my experience, but there are multiple ways to do it.
can this arquetipe even be done in standard?
i have a deck with sheoldred, the apocalypse + bloodletter of aclazotz + caustic bronco + insatiable avarice + rush of dread, it kills with indirect damage but tries to do it all in the same action.
also, can mono black devotion in pioneer be called black burn?
No, this arquetipe is not standard viable.
38:32 Opponents tapped, at 7 life, with enough energy for gonti and even cast spike
I love this deck. Very glad it got sth new.
What about Alms of the vein?
Am I the only one whose thoughts are that necrodominance could be a huge boon to legacy storm decks?
Also, timeless 8 necro when?
Why didn't you attack at 11:56? Am I missing something
Oh NVM the one ring was played the turn before, I got it
This video gave me the awful idea of a trespasser’s curse deck with phantasm and tamiyo so their tokens don’t matter. She can also buy back rakdos charms! And curse/charm hurt nadu very badly.
Sleeper agent is a house in this deck. Really surprised at its performance.
This deck is awesome!
4 lightning bolts, 2 skewer the critics, and opponent plays a shock. Yes Burn can win on turn 3
If a creature with infect is affected by Rakdos charm am I getting a poison counter?
Seems like it should. Rakdos Charm says "• Each creature deals 1 damage to its controller." So the source of the damage is the creature, not Rakdos Charm. Which means the following applies:
"120.3b Damage dealt to a player by a source with infect causes that source’s controller to give the player that many poison counters."
Lifelink should also apply, for what it's worth.
Amazing bearded hog!
no needle bite trap grove of the burn willows big sad
Vortex is working so hard against you its wild.
you scooped early against elves when you punted. You could've played the cursed totem to prevent them from using Ezuri and survived a turn
Safron Olive single-handedly cranking the price of a coldsnap junk rare to $6 by constantly playing it.
Try 55 now
I'm getting necropotence vibes right now that's up with this card.
wonder what might have reminded you of that card
Even mono black plays lightning bolt lmao
Can someone explain why Seth is calling it mono black burn but it clearly has red mana and red cards? Idgi
Seth complaining about flooding out like that isn’t just a part of the burn experience. You can’t call yourself a burn player unless half your games end with the opponent at 1 life after top decking lands for 3 turns in a row.
im so upset he didnt bolt the teferi.
10 is within "screw it" range against an omnom
"March of the Black Souls" I don't think that's what the card says!
Why isn’t gonti machinations on arena 😭
Mechanitions*
I hate the Rakdos charm package being in this deck tbh. Even against elves, it just feels like it doesn’t synergize enough with the rest of the deck at all.
this isnt even the craziest thing you can do with necrodominance. my friend is building a deck that centers around landing necrodominance, sheoldred, and a stuffy doll. you draw to like 1 health, then use the black march to blast stuffy doll to kill oppo. extra spicy. you should build it seth, its peak ATO.
RIP sword point diplomacy, cant believe it got power crept
So I clicked the link to view the deck with the latest prices. And it says that a place set of Soul Spike cost $149 when in reality its a $5 card.
Such a sweet deck. The surveil land seems really bad though. I don't think you want tapped lands in an aggro/combo deck. Should definitely just be another Blood Crypt.
The issue with this deck is it just folds to so much incidental hate decks are playing for not even this matchup. Specifically veil of summer and chalice (on one)
I wanna play this same build but with black march and sorin x 4 i think sorin is good in this deck
"monoblack"
*has red in it*