Great Players of the Past: Duncan Suttles

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  • Опубліковано 6 бер 2023
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    GM Ben Finegold discusses three games of Duncan Suttles as part of the Great Players of the Past series. This lecture was recorded February 27, 2023, in Roswell, Georgia.
    9:40 Duncan Suttles vs Bent Larsen, Montreal 1974
    17:43 Lubomír Kaválek vs Duncan Suttles, Olympiad Qualifying Group 2, 1974
    35:30 Duncan Suttles vs Benkő Pál, Hastings 1973-74
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  • @aarons3014
    @aarons3014 Рік тому +66

    I'm Ben's age. It's hard to explain the reverence in people's voices when they talked about Suttles. We knew he wasn't top 10 in the world, but he was proof you didn't need to follow the rules of chess to be strong. It was as though he understood the game in a way no one else in the world did. It gave people hope they could be creative and weird, and still play well.

  • @zktruth4491
    @zktruth4491 Рік тому +27

    About 10 years ago, I stopped at a coffee shop in North Vancouver where I'd spotted a half dozen folks playing some blitz. I was about 1700 strength at the time, so generally speaking had a good expected score against a random in a coffee shop. I took a seat with the white pieces across from a (slightly) older gentleman. We played a Scandinavian, and I was dead lost in about a dozen moves. Horrible! How could I be so bad?
    Then my opponent picked up and reset his clock, showing its bottom was signed "D. Suttles". I didn't feel so bad anymore.

    • @robertomariani626
      @robertomariani626 9 місяців тому

      Ahah, that's a fun occurance, to meet top players in a random game, without knowing you're playing them!

  • @alekhinesgun9997
    @alekhinesgun9997 Рік тому +22

    Ben's chair is shaking like a grandmaster

  • @euclideszoto997
    @euclideszoto997 Рік тому +9

    Another player who was like Duncan Suttles was Viktor Pupol's. They both played similarly weird.

    • @kyleboddy7806
      @kyleboddy7806 Рік тому +1

      Still does. Playing at the Seattle Chess Club on the regular. A true legend.

  • @dragosantrach6283
    @dragosantrach6283 3 місяці тому

    I was at UBC BC during the 70's while Duncan Suttles was getting his PhD in Math. His thesis was: Critical Density of Knights on the Infinite chess board. He often played with all of us at the Internation House, along with several IM's. We often played Cylindrical Board and Random set ups.

  • @user-ro9md9wp3j
    @user-ro9md9wp3j Рік тому +17

    I can't believe Ben thanked Aunt Anna and Aunt Anna, but forgot to thank Aunt Anna and Aunt Anna

  • @kenkur27
    @kenkur27 Рік тому +3

    This brings back memories! Back in the 1970s we Canadian players were quite familiar with Suttles and his beloved 'Rat' (a popular name in those days for 1...g6 against almost anything). Many of the strong young players in Canada tried to emulate his style.

    • @ilanpi
      @ilanpi 3 місяці тому

      More like he ruined a generation of Vancouver players, since they weren't good enough technically to carry out these borderline unsound strategies.

  • @benjamindillard2391
    @benjamindillard2391 Рік тому +7

    Love this series, GM Ben. Keep them coming!

  • @951genni
    @951genni Рік тому +2

    Samy Shoker stayed at my house recently and we played some games. He taught me and my son a bit., World's nicest guy!

  • @jonathanbeeson8614
    @jonathanbeeson8614 Рік тому +4

    Another dual GM of both OTB and Correspondence chess is of course Ulf Andersson of Sweden, who has been world class in both forms.

  • @daniellowinger3709
    @daniellowinger3709 11 місяців тому +1

    Refreshing message to care about the quality of the game. The obsession with ratings and results, no matter how it happens; delighting in blunders, etc. doesn't really come from what's best in people imo.

  • @davidheath5429
    @davidheath5429 Рік тому +2

    Great video - thank you. Suttles was always appearing in chess magazines in the 70s.

  • @joelcuerrier4833
    @joelcuerrier4833 Рік тому +1

    really interesting player. Starts all timid, not moving anything forward... most people doing this would usually lose taking no space and moving backward all the time. But it all works for him.

  • @ilanpi
    @ilanpi 3 місяці тому

    Another possible explanation of why Suttles never attained the top level is that his strategy wasn't quite sound but it took the highest level of technical ability to deal with it.

  • @smijam361
    @smijam361 Рік тому

    Had never heard of Suttles before, but what a player. One of the great things about this game is how many different styles can be employed successfully. Thanks Ben and vielen Dank Wolfgang

  • @jasonquinlan731
    @jasonquinlan731 Рік тому +1

    Never heard of Suttles until this video. Very enjoyable!

  • @dannygjk
    @dannygjk Рік тому +1

    In a chess book decades ago I saw that some GM had said something like, "If you don't know what to do, do nothing but do it well." 🤔

  • @jetpaq
    @jetpaq Рік тому +1

    I love Bens digs at his friends!! Lol what a riot!!

  • @matteopriotto5131
    @matteopriotto5131 Рік тому +2

    6:30 that's a compliment, Ben! It means you play like Karpov!
    Just to be clear for those who don't know, once Karpov famously replied "I have no style" after being asked what his style was.

    • @thekurdishtapes8317
      @thekurdishtapes8317 4 місяці тому

      which is funny since Karpov is a player with a very distinctive style, known as the "Anaconda"

  • @noahz
    @noahz Рік тому +1

    Those wins were *anything* but subtle.

  • @ak3dog
    @ak3dog Рік тому

    I live in the NW and have "followed" Suttles since 1972, yes the distance to tournaments limited Suttles. The real reason that we don't know if he or Pal Benko would be in the top 20 was at that time there were a lot of players in Eastern Europe who were pretty good but, they didn't get to travel either. Quick side note: Yasser's first big open event was US Open 1974 in Chicago and who did Yaz play in round 1? Uncle Duncan!

  • @rathelmmc3194
    @rathelmmc3194 Рік тому +1

    What a great way to play. Very creative player, wish I could play like that. Also this lecture is brought to you by Chessable, Aimchess and the 2 bishops, one for each of ya.

  • @ullupdrost4740
    @ullupdrost4740 Рік тому +1

    Larsen, I love. This guy, I may love even more.

  • @NelsonBoy2734
    @NelsonBoy2734 Рік тому

    I really like Suttles now that I have seen his play. I love you videos Ben! GO BEN!!

  • @juanjuzgadoibiza558
    @juanjuzgadoibiza558 Рік тому

    When i grew up in the 80's There was no Internet and to study openings i had to read Ludek pachmans 's books.

  • @zacharyheflin6794
    @zacharyheflin6794 Рік тому +2

    Definitely one of the most critical chess series available for free on UA-cam.
    History is very underrated, at least in my world

  • @Thatotter223
    @Thatotter223 9 місяців тому

    Hey ben, hope everything is going great! You are awesome.

  • @WorldOfDeepThought
    @WorldOfDeepThought Рік тому +1

    Suspicious chair

  • @mitchellwilson5770
    @mitchellwilson5770 Рік тому

    I hope to sponsor a great players of the past lecture someday, when I’m a little more flush with cash ;)
    An amazing series, I love the history

  • @wyomingtreeplanter
    @wyomingtreeplanter 5 місяців тому

    In my humble opinion, the most Suttlesesque game is Barczay-Suttles, Sousse, 1967. Prove me wrong!

  • @elevenears4785
    @elevenears4785 Рік тому

    Yay Ron Finegold! Yay Aunt Anna!

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety Рік тому

    That second game is known as the Reverse Kavavalanche

  • @renehenriksen1735
    @renehenriksen1735 Рік тому

    Would like to give Ben a ride on my motorcycle to show him that it says Raaaawrrrr Raaaaawrrrr and that Einstein was a genius when he concluded that E= MC2

  • @666nevermore
    @666nevermore Рік тому

    Ben finegold was born[..] he can’t lose his GM title… bro that shit got me totallycracked

  • @cparks1000000
    @cparks1000000 Рік тому

    13:32 Some of us are lowly (untitled) Math PhDs.

  • @bjorneriksson6480
    @bjorneriksson6480 Рік тому

    Ulf Andersson is a real GM and correspondance GM

  • @QuietFaith1
    @QuietFaith1 Рік тому

    The overview of Duncan Suttles is insightful. A GM described as "playing whatever he wants" is worth a full watch. Thank you, sir.

  • @DC66DC
    @DC66DC Рік тому

    Looks like Ben is on a massage chair when it's shaking like that haha great lecture

  • @ItaIianStaIIion
    @ItaIianStaIIion Рік тому

    That’s cool that Ben Finegold and Led Zeppelin were born in the same year

  • @goda743
    @goda743 Рік тому +2

    Man, that shaking chair really distracted me with my short attention span.
    Also, go Ben, but stay there!

  • @lightgrove7751
    @lightgrove7751 Рік тому

    Nice content idea, here for it

  • @dooflydetailguuy4349
    @dooflydetailguuy4349 Рік тому

    You forgot about Ben Finegold

  • @lynge77
    @lynge77 Рік тому +1

    shaking chair 😅

  • @jorymil
    @jorymil Рік тому

    It's a sad truth that you really need to live within a few hours' drive of a major metro area to be able to compete at a high level in chess. In North America, that's NYC, Chicago, Texas, and Los Angeles. And St. Louis because of their club. Maybe Mexico City?

  • @adamborder4148
    @adamborder4148 Рік тому

    Grandmaster, I heard you had or went for a history major. Don't know your degrees, yet with your content, I'm surprised you haven't received an honorary history doctorate from a university based upon your research.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson Рік тому

      I don't think Ben ever went to college. I think he immediately started playing chess as a pro and moved to Europe.

  • @andrewlemon4324
    @andrewlemon4324 Рік тому

    Go Ohio!

  • @atwarwithdust
    @atwarwithdust Рік тому

    Suttles won suttley.

  • @ahrrydepp493
    @ahrrydepp493 Рік тому +1

    Why the hell white didnt play the winning move bishp C6 here 26:51??

    • @zanti4132
      @zanti4132 Рік тому +5

      For one thing it's Black's move. Anyway, the skewer doesn't work, as Black can play Ra1+, then move his queen.

    • @ostrol1590
      @ostrol1590 Рік тому +1

      ​@@zanti4132 hilarious. Thank you!

    • @SveshMix
      @SveshMix Рік тому

      Ra1+ Kh2 Qxb2