Great Players of the Past: Judit Polgár

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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2023
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... In 1991, Polgár achieved the title of Grandmaster at the age of 15 years and 4 months, at the time the youngest to have done so, breaking the record previously held by former World Champion Bobby Fischer. She was the youngest player ever to break into the FIDE top 100 players rating list, ranking No. 55 in the January 1989 rating list, at the age of 12.[2]
    17:37 Alexei Shirov - Judit Polgár, Buenos Aires 1994
    24:58 Judit Polgár - Viswanathan Anand, Dos Hermanas 1999
    32:02 Judit Polgár - Ferenc Berkes, Hunguest Super Chess Tournament 2003
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 151

  • @greennin
    @greennin 11 місяців тому +86

    For the official record, Judit Polgar's Wikipedia page is longer than Kesha's

    • @gmatsue84
      @gmatsue84 6 місяців тому +8

      Who's Kesha?

    • @MisterJoshuaTree
      @MisterJoshuaTree 2 місяці тому +1

      @@gmatsue84terrible

    • @Joseph-sj9uf
      @Joseph-sj9uf 7 днів тому

      Ke$ha isnt even a top women’s singer or grandmaster

    • @greennin
      @greennin 6 днів тому

      @@Joseph-sj9uf "top women's singer" what an expression. you have spent to much time in the chess world 😂

  • @roippi3985
    @roippi3985 11 місяців тому +80

    Alright it’s time to write a really long section on Ben’s wiki about “wiki length fame theory”

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 11 місяців тому +9

      And then add all of his lectures as sources...that will teach them

    • @CarlosSamuel-ms9ee
      @CarlosSamuel-ms9ee 11 місяців тому +4

      @answers4217
      Also, every single famous persons wikipedia page as proof.

    • @danielcrase
      @danielcrase 2 місяці тому +2

      This is genius and wish it came to fruition. AND if we add more sections, like common phrases, teaching style, leacturing, etc. and mainly etc, we can have this wiki length game theory be self aware and say this is a rare example of the GM/player not being the best ever, but having a long Wikipedia page.

  • @timothyacowin9761
    @timothyacowin9761 8 місяців тому +15

    Her peak rating was 2735. That's incredible

  • @TrulyVerity
    @TrulyVerity 11 місяців тому +64

    Ben: It’s like Paul Morphy on Steroids
    Ben, seconds later: It’s like a scholastic game where both players are rated 100 😂😂

  • @ibazulic
    @ibazulic 11 місяців тому +32

    Damn, I really wanted to sponsor the Judit Polgar lecture but never got around to it (always something else to pay for, always something else to finance). Thank you, dear sponsor, for sponsoring this lecture about this amazing woman!

    • @Blaisem
      @Blaisem 11 місяців тому +4

      you can always sponsor a follow-up lecture. Ben did a 4 part on Morphy, so he could do more parts on Judit.

  • @xtaf82
    @xtaf82 11 місяців тому +30

    Judit is such a beast, she's been one of my greatest inspirations throughout my chess journey. Easily my favorite player of all time.

  • @RadishAcceptable
    @RadishAcceptable 11 місяців тому +76

    Miss her games. Nobody plays like she did, not men or women. Her attacking style is super exciting.

  • @georgecolby7488
    @georgecolby7488 11 місяців тому +4

    Judit Polgar is one of my 2 favorite players, the other being Ivanchuk. They aren't typically mentioned as the greatest players ever, but then they beat the players that are mentioned. Highly suspicious. They are both dynamic players that bring another level when playing the best in the world. Love it!

  • @davidofearth
    @davidofearth 9 місяців тому +3

    Ben, thanks for covering J Polgar and Leko. I love how they both came out of Hungary, were amazing on the world stage, and now serve the chess community as remarkable commentators.

  • @A51838
    @A51838 11 місяців тому +12

    the game against vishy lmao. i've never been so entertained by a chess game

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 11 місяців тому +5

      It seems like everytime I see a Judit game, I would resign with both colors every turn. They go way beyond my ability to calculate

  • @lordjaraxxus3864
    @lordjaraxxus3864 11 місяців тому +8

    The game against Anand is an amazing squeeze of the position. A lower rated player (like myself) can only dream of playing for positional compensation down 2 pieces with no immediate win. That's something an engine would do.

    • @riccardozanoni2531
      @riccardozanoni2531 11 місяців тому +1

      compared to Judith Polgar we're all lower rated😉 And that game was absolutely marvellous

  • @MrRichi251
    @MrRichi251 10 місяців тому +3

    I knew Judit was insane but these games are on another level. Definitely inspiring me to study more of her games. Also I watched a lot of Norway Chess 2023 live and it was truly amazing to hear her thoughts. It was clear that she was thinking on a completely different level than not only the other commentators but many of the players. Spitting absurd tactics immediately that of course they fail to find after thinking for 10 minutes.

  • @dsatorius7810
    @dsatorius7810 10 місяців тому +5

    Just ordered the Queen of Chess for my 9 year old daughter who recently played in her first USCF scholastic tournament. Thanks for letting us know about the book!

  • @zacharyheflin6794
    @zacharyheflin6794 11 місяців тому +2

    My lord, I’ve known of polgar, and have admired her play style for sometime but that first game you showed was my first time seeing it, absolutely stunning, and inspiring, bravo 👏 mrs polgar

  • @GlennTheSadMarinersFan
    @GlennTheSadMarinersFan 6 місяців тому +1

    I am in my early 50s so when Judit was young it was fun looking at her games. Loved the kings gambit games. don't remember the year but when Yasser was pushing Action chess in the late 80s or early 90s.. I played in a tournament in Tacoma with like 11 or 12 players I believe.. with Ftacnik, Yasser, Giorgi Orlov and Yassers now wife. fun times. Also played in the Dearborn US open. loved those days.

  • @pschneider1968
    @pschneider1968 10 місяців тому +3

    I could listen for Ben's personal stories for hours! It's as if he knew all celebreties throughout chess history in person! So entertaining!

    • @guillaumelagueyte1019
      @guillaumelagueyte1019 8 місяців тому

      I can't decide if I love it more when Ben does it or when Yasser does it. Both have the most awesome stories.

  • @mathildewesendonck7225
    @mathildewesendonck7225 7 місяців тому +2

    27.02 I admire you so much for that, Benjamin! That’s sheer passion, sharing a hotel room with 7 other people and sleeping on the floor to compete in a chess tournament. I wonder how many player of today would do that.
    I

  • @h0wnr681
    @h0wnr681 11 місяців тому +15

    It's always a great day when a new Ben lecture drops, thanks guys!

  • @rickcarson591
    @rickcarson591 11 місяців тому +11

    Glad you mentioned The Sack of Rome :D
    Shame you can't really talk about the disgraceful treatment of the Polgars by FIDE because it'd take way more than an hour. 😕

  • @dw3yn693
    @dw3yn693 11 місяців тому +5

    Would’ve loved to see more games from her! Such a great and rich playing style! Great player and lecture!

  • @cftfgh
    @cftfgh 10 місяців тому +3

    It would be great if Ben's wikipedia page actually just said "Ben Finegold, the end."

  • @CyanGM
    @CyanGM 11 місяців тому +3

    Absolutely love Judit's games and her personality. Go Judit and go Ben!

  • @TheMrBennito
    @TheMrBennito 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow, Vishy got clobbered in that game, it's like a tornado, nothing one can do!

  • @robertfrippers
    @robertfrippers 11 місяців тому +6

    These games are head spinning

  • @jameslockwood8008
    @jameslockwood8008 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for making these lectures, Ben. I've seen all the Great Players series, some several times. Nothing beats looking into the minds of the greatest players in history.

  • @ddd231
    @ddd231 11 місяців тому +4

    This was great! Thank you for sharing such great stories and insight. Peace and good health to you.

  • @danjeory3659
    @danjeory3659 9 місяців тому +2

    Wow, her calculations in these games is off the scale.

  • @slythespacecat
    @slythespacecat 11 місяців тому +6

    Ben: "and if you're counting pieces, i'm not saying you are"
    Me: "no i am yes, i'm loving this game"
    Ben: "Judith just sacked 2 pieces"
    Me:"shit, i was not counting pieces right"

  • @agentmbca
    @agentmbca 10 місяців тому +3

    Love the lectures, Ben. Awesome commentary

  • @diegozophielnorambuena-ld1og
    @diegozophielnorambuena-ld1og 11 місяців тому +1

    I played this while cooking the launch, and i have to replay it to watch the games and learn something from them, but the stories are always the best part XD. Thanks Ben and greetings to Karen and Archer... and Spencer of course :D

  • @strangetobias1474
    @strangetobias1474 11 місяців тому +8

    Hey Ben ! Can't wait to watch this lecture.
    I was wondering if you were planning to make a Luc Winants great players of the past, as a tribute !

  • @cormackhotzie7874
    @cormackhotzie7874 11 місяців тому +3

    Great lecture! Very entertaining

  • @the_potmo
    @the_potmo 11 місяців тому +3

    Turns out the engine likes 6.g4 (Shirov in first game) the best on stockfish 14 anyway at 22 depth. Also it has one of the best win records in master play according to Lichess' database.

  • @kevinmalone3210
    @kevinmalone3210 5 місяців тому +1

    Even as a teenager, Judit Polgar acquired the nickname, "The Auburn Haired Terror." 😅

  • @HWLee-vu4hv
    @HWLee-vu4hv 9 місяців тому +1

    Very interesting story! Thanks for sharing....

  • @A51838
    @A51838 11 місяців тому +2

    these lectures are always so good

  • @mcronrn
    @mcronrn 11 місяців тому +4

    Wow what games 😳👏🤯

  • @loureedsghost
    @loureedsghost 11 місяців тому +3

    Been waiting for this one!

  • @rudi5764
    @rudi5764 11 місяців тому +1

    Super interesting! Thanks

  • @donovan665
    @donovan665 11 місяців тому +1

    Great lecture

  • @coxscorner
    @coxscorner 11 місяців тому +2

    One of my favorite players of all time. In the class of Alekhine, Keres and Tal imho.

  • @Jabadamazo
    @Jabadamazo 11 місяців тому +9

    It seems like Ben being around for Judit's milestones is the...
    norm?

    • @andrzejwilk7316
      @andrzejwilk7316 11 місяців тому

      badum-tsss

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 11 місяців тому

      The one in the US is weird... That's a long trip to get a norm.

    • @Jabadamazo
      @Jabadamazo 11 місяців тому

      @@answeris4217 the US is just massive tbh. It can be hard for people from Europe to really comprehend how much fucking land is over here.

    • @answeris4217
      @answeris4217 11 місяців тому

      @@Jabadamazo I live in Canada...I know how big it is.

  • @mrfancypants4021
    @mrfancypants4021 11 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant. Thanks

  • @CamiloGaetePuga
    @CamiloGaetePuga 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video Mr. Finegold !

  • @iqless7313
    @iqless7313 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't know why but I can't stop laughing at the "it says Ben Finegold... the end" joke

  • @supremeboi6041
    @supremeboi6041 11 місяців тому +3

    Jen Shahade gave the questions in one of the jeopardy masters rounds and Polgar was the answer to the 2000$ question

  • @Sheopaard
    @Sheopaard 11 місяців тому +8

    Just confirming Britney Spears' wikipedia page is ~x3 as long as Kesha's with 521 references vs 183 references.

  • @Erik_001
    @Erik_001 11 місяців тому +3

    Love her games. Thanks for the lecture . Edit: I got the G4 move. Yay me!

  • @wilestrella7202
    @wilestrella7202 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you Ben! Do they have a signed copy of the book?

  • @Shalom589
    @Shalom589 10 місяців тому

    You are great !!!! Tnks!!!!💯💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍

  • @gustavohoffmann1686
    @gustavohoffmann1686 11 місяців тому +6

    oh no my other dog is sick!

  • @reconnell854
    @reconnell854 3 місяці тому

    23:29 it’s so funny to imagine 2 100 rated players blundering all their pieces and not seeing any tactics but actually playing a brilliancy

  • @richardv.2475
    @richardv.2475 11 місяців тому +2

    Whenever Ben gives a lecture about Judit Polgar it always makes my day, partially because Polgar is the only hungarian word Ben can pronounce decently and with the little US flavor in Judy I'd say the overall effect is even better than perfect. (In contrast to "Berkes", "Maróczy", sorry but those were horrible.)

  • @lauriewallmark
    @lauriewallmark 5 місяців тому +1

    Kids can learn more about this amazing woman in my picture book biography, THE QUEEN OF CHESS: HOW JUDIT POLGAR CHANGED THE GAME.

  • @msalty2823
    @msalty2823 11 місяців тому +2

    Great lecture. I too many UA-cam broadcasts cover the men and ignore the many great women players and games by women players. Question for you, if Judit is the best female player and one of the greatest chess players of any gender, who is the second best woman player?
    Thanks

    • @danbrooks5060
      @danbrooks5060 11 місяців тому +1

      You could argue that it's actually Susan, lol. But if you go by ratings and WC results probably Hou Yifan. She retired quite early but it could still be a while before anyone surpasses her peak rating to overtake No. 2 all-time (2686).

  • @andreitiberiovicgazdovici
    @andreitiberiovicgazdovici 11 місяців тому +4

    Maybe when it comes to men the discussion about who is the best in chess history is open (not for me, for me it will remain Bobby Fischer). But when it comes to women I'm sorry but there's no doubt: It's Judit Polgar, and the n2 (whoever you may choose) doesn't even come close

  • @mrhardbiz62
    @mrhardbiz62 11 місяців тому

    The awards section is longer than your page, Ben! 😊

  • @raphaellfms
    @raphaellfms 11 місяців тому +1

    Common, where is the picture of Bem holding both Polgars on his shoulders?! That’s the story I’m waiting for

    • @josueramirez7247
      @josueramirez7247 11 місяців тому +1

      I think I know which photo you’re referring to lol. But that photo didn’t have the Polgars in it. It was Irina Krush and Iryna Zenyuk, I think.

  • @pawnpusher
    @pawnpusher 11 місяців тому

    Where can I watch the Kings vs Queens tournament?

  • @rickdynes
    @rickdynes 11 місяців тому +1

    ❤ Judit

  • @chanky1000
    @chanky1000 11 місяців тому

    Do a great players of the past with Shirov!

  • @jugglingbeast
    @jugglingbeast 11 місяців тому +5

    Judith destroyed the "Men's World" of chess single handedly literally

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 11 місяців тому +3

      It was her older sister that literally did it. The World Chess Championship was called the Men's World Chess Championship. Susan was invited to the candidates, but until the Men's part of the title was dropped, Susan couldn't play. That's why it's now called The World Chess Championship.

    • @jugglingbeast
      @jugglingbeast 11 місяців тому

      @@orlock20 You're right. I always mix between the sisters in the family which is the strongest family in Chess history.

  • @Gonergrat
    @Gonergrat 11 місяців тому +2

    Supposedly her father really pushed her. He had the same expectations for her as if he had a son.

  • @michael2244
    @michael2244 11 місяців тому +1

    Judit Polgar is nice =)

  • @Fishlom
    @Fishlom 11 місяців тому +2

    Serious question: how much do you charge for a sponsored lecture on a topic/player of choice?

    • @danbrooks5060
      @danbrooks5060 11 місяців тому +1

      it's 250 usd last i checked.

  • @ThunderChickenBucket
    @ThunderChickenBucket 11 місяців тому

    nice

  • @usgamechamp1091
    @usgamechamp1091 11 місяців тому +2

    wow, she was complex

  • @vikggx
    @vikggx Місяць тому

    8:20 bookmarked

  • @answeris4217
    @answeris4217 11 місяців тому +1

    When Ben said 99% of plauers wouldn't play this move...I thought for sure it was F3...but she won so.... obviously I was wrong

  • @steven99456
    @steven99456 11 місяців тому

    When will you continue Great Players of the Present?

    • @danbrooks5060
      @danbrooks5060 11 місяців тому

      When someone sponsors a lecture on a Great Player of the Present.

  • @scottrackley4457
    @scottrackley4457 5 місяців тому

    Judit was all about giving the opponent the business.

  • @jccusell
    @jccusell 11 місяців тому

    ~ Top 25 all time

  • @DDi-bh3ud
    @DDi-bh3ud 11 місяців тому +3

    Ah so this is where andrew gets it from 😂

  • @josueramirez7247
    @josueramirez7247 11 місяців тому

    Is it really true what Ben says about how the difference between the second best woman grandmaster and the tenth is smaller than that of Judit Polgar and the second best player? Maybe it was true in the past but now it probably isn’t right?

    • @TheChessRunner
      @TheChessRunner 10 місяців тому +1

      Hou Yifan is hard to rank. Since she stopped her professional career quite short.
      But it as least close difference between 1 and 2 as big as 2 to 10 and between 2 and 3 as big as 3 to 10 too

    • @josueramirez7247
      @josueramirez7247 10 місяців тому

      @@TheChessRunner would you rank someone by peak rating or current rating? I noticed that Judit Polgar isn’t on the FIDE Top 100 Women August 2023 list but Hou Yifan is. I am just very confused but curious about how FIDE and the general public ranks chess players.

  • @m1k4c
    @m1k4c 11 місяців тому

    I just wanted to say I never saw this person in my life.
    Judit

    • @m1k4c
      @m1k4c 11 місяців тому

      Neither did I
      Vishy Anand

  • @owena7434
    @owena7434 6 місяців тому

    Judit Polgar is still alive

  • @KvS1248
    @KvS1248 11 місяців тому +1

    One of the funniest stories I still find Nigel Short saying “woman cannot play chess” and then getting ‘molested’ by Judit Polgar 😄 I bet he still cries in his sleep at night 😢

  • @true9536
    @true9536 9 місяців тому

    Any evidence of the Emory Tate match? I can't find anything online...

  • @studgerbil9081
    @studgerbil9081 8 місяців тому

    Polgar is seven years younger than Finegold btw. "Past" indeed.

  • @Kommaer
    @Kommaer 22 дні тому

    I was born in same day as Judit Polgar, although I was'nt born jet.

  • @Deucely
    @Deucely 11 місяців тому

    Why? Yes, please.

  • @broncoi40
    @broncoi40 11 місяців тому

    HEY FINEGOLD, YOU ARE CARTOON

  • @Shalom589
    @Shalom589 10 місяців тому

    👍👍👍❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @sa9245
    @sa9245 6 місяців тому +1

    Judit farming Ben for GM norms

  • @Jabadamazo
    @Jabadamazo 11 місяців тому +1

    "Mine says 'Ben Finegold...you know, the end.'"
    Ben I just checked, it doesn't say "the end", stop lying.

  • @christophflock1921
    @christophflock1921 11 місяців тому +1

    Paul Morphy on steroids xD

  • @robertomariani626
    @robertomariani626 9 місяців тому

    The fact finegold is confident he'd lose to paulgar says enough, I doubt there's many female chessplayers who could realistically win against him 44:25

  • @KEPerry
    @KEPerry 11 місяців тому

    Judit needs to put it in 'h'...

  • @bartholomewtheiiijr.386
    @bartholomewtheiiijr.386 11 місяців тому +6

    Emery Tate is andrew tates dad if anyone didnt know.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 11 місяців тому +7

      And he lost to Ben in under 20 moves with the white pieces. Weird player. Weirder sons

  • @snookslayer4559
    @snookslayer4559 9 місяців тому

    Ms. Judit Polgar ??? Is this a cooking show?

  • @joshuapjung
    @joshuapjung 11 місяців тому

    The Karen's Cup 🤣

  • @ChessHoodie
    @ChessHoodie 10 місяців тому

    While your method is pretty logical, you are ignoring a simple fact - wikipedia is not trustworthy, sometimes ( to be more precise - very often )

  • @Mynymylyst
    @Mynymylyst 11 місяців тому

    If Berkes had played Kg7 instead of Kg8 after Qh2+, the engine says he's winning by a lot. I'm actually confused why he didn't, considering he moved his King there in the first place to make it safer.

    • @rudolfblahna614
      @rudolfblahna614 11 місяців тому

      probably because you didn't go deep enough

    • @garthowen8292
      @garthowen8292 11 місяців тому

      Uh huh, and after Qh6+ Kg8 BxB7 the situation is basically the same as before except the rook looks even more stupid?

    • @rudolfblahna614
      @rudolfblahna614 11 місяців тому

      @@garthowen8292 so after Qh6+ Kg8 you play Bg6 with the next move being mate so black has two options xg6 than Qxg6+ Kh8 Rh1# or the second Qh6+ Kg8 Bxg6 Bxg5+ Nxg5 Qxg5+ Qxg5 and you are up a queen and the black king is in great danger and it would have to run loosing even more pieces and the black pieces are really passive and dont have an attack.

  • @RunFreeRyan
    @RunFreeRyan 9 місяців тому +1

    I cant escape Andrew Tate even in chess. Ew.
    Polgar is awesome tho! Loved learning about her :)

  • @emilyvanalterman2736
    @emilyvanalterman2736 11 місяців тому

    And Emory Tate happens to be Andrew Tate's father o.0 it seems he got his attitude from somewhere

  • @alyssaskier2656
    @alyssaskier2656 11 місяців тому +3

    Sad story about Emory Tate: He died of shame on account of his son.

  • @slylataupe4272
    @slylataupe4272 11 місяців тому

    To the sponsor of this video, if you need someone to read the Wikipedia page of any player you want i can do that for half the price of mr Finegold.

  • @polgarbertalan4147
    @polgarbertalan4147 9 місяців тому +1

    not to brage but look at my name...

  • @dixonbeejay
    @dixonbeejay Місяць тому

    She destroyed magnus like he was a lil rat😂

  • @magicianLogician
    @magicianLogician 11 місяців тому +3

    She’s still alive lol

    • @A51838
      @A51838 11 місяців тому +12

      and? she's retired

    • @andogaming1425
      @andogaming1425 11 місяців тому

      ​@@magicianLogicianAnyone can reply to anyone on UA-cam. That why there's a reply button boomer.

    • @mcronrn
      @mcronrn 11 місяців тому +8

      Still alive and beating Magnus in parks!! 🤣👍🏽🙏

    • @palatusgames8800
      @palatusgames8800 11 місяців тому +5

      @@magicianLogician Speaking to the ether I guess

    • @thundermill7109
      @thundermill7109 11 місяців тому +5

      @@magicianLogicianthen who were you talking to? If you didn’t want a response you should probably keep your words to yourself.