Harvest service calls 2 - John Deere 9520 engine knock & 8320R is getting hot.
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this video, Patrick has a 9520R with a nasty knock in the engine and I hit the road to go finish up the 8320R fan drives. Got the parts in to install new dry style fan drives on an older Teir 3 8R 9.0L engine. Customer is still complaining on the tractor getting hot so we try a set of thermostats. Then I go back to the shop to see what Patrick has found…
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You’d think, for how much these tractors cost, that they’d be trouble free for a decade with a good service history.
We don't live in a perfect world. Even new stuff will fail.
Anything will fail. Farm machinery usually gets pushed pretty hard too so that puts more wear on it.
Yeah over the road trucks sure last a long time don’t they? It doesn’t matter what it is. If it’s pushed hard and past its limit it will fail.
Too much stuff on em
@@mitchellunger9005 Highway driving is far easier on an engine vs pulling in a field all day.
Wow. One hell of a mechanic! Someone that actually uses torque wrenches and understands why you do.
Great video. Excited when I see you post a new one. Keep it up
I am always impressed to see how professional you are. You simply know what you are doing. That is a real treat for me. Thank you.
Another great video ZK, lots of work going on!
It's incredible how fast you work when you're jamming to the music, maybe you should jam more, and save the customer some labor time? 😅
"Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌 👍 🇺🇲
How many years have you been doing this? how much would you say you have invested in tools for your job? Excellent video as usual.
He is a Snap On Man. Bet he has more money in tools.than many folks have in their home.
Man thats crazy those nice expensive tractors having problems like that
Thank you for taking time to share another great video, Zeth! Thank you for everything you do to keep harvest going. Please stay safe, and God bless.
16:00--- It is always nice to know, the engineers thought of the Field mechanics.
Walked in our Case Dealership today... 1 Quadtrack was getting it tracks replaced and 9230 Combine was getting a rock dug out of the rotor... otherwise it was crickets in there. 😂
Great video Zeth and the place is a hive of activity with everyone being busy as bees! As is the case in all modern vehicles/equipment, regardless of cars, commercials or agricultural equipment, there is never enough space to get to parts that need changing like on your 8320R, but you got her done.
You got that right, I’ve been an automotive tech for a bit over 15 years and the cars are just getting more and more jam packed as the years go by. You’d swear they build some of these cars as if they’ll never have to be repaired, just stick the entire engine bay and transmission on a table and then build the car around it lol
Our New Holland TM 140 has 24,578 hrs and the motor, trans, and rear end have not been opened up yet. Love your videos.
I always love seeing situations where companies are lucky enough to have an employee like you. We had some pretty good techs that worked on our equipment at the farm.
John Deere quality is going down. Glad i sold the stock.
From someone who has worked in the industry for 40 years if I could make a suggestion- lay a piece of cardboard behind the radiator core to protect it-things can go flying sometimes and I found cardboard lots cheaper than a core-for what its worth. Enjoy your videos very much.
You and I think alot alike sir!
First Gen r series, absolutely my favorite 8000 series ever. I feel like they all run a bit hot, though, but not really too hot. We had an 8270r with 13k plus hours. In the summer, it would get to 225 degrees Fahrenheit. But overall, it had less problems than our newer 8285r with 5k hours.
As a John Deere field technician, you are a role model of mine for a while now, your videos helped me so much, we are at Campbell tractor in fruitland ID, youre tips are amazing and I used them everyday now thank you!
Um a john deere setup technician and my friend zeth's technics are legendary
Love the Carnage! Thanks Zeth! 😀👍
Harvest time keeps EVERYBODY busy!
13.5 with a broken valve bridge. I had to deal with one of those this spring in a 9560 RT. Broke the bridge and bent the valves. Pulled the head and there were 11 cracks between the valve seats so customer got a new head put on. Have you guys heard anything about timing gear idler PIP's on the 13.6L engines? We got our first one in the shop this week.
How come we never see any sprayers on the channel? Is there just not that many out there in your area?
A neighbor runs John Deere tractors, and he told me those 9560s and 70s motors are Junk. He ran both and both had valve train issues so he ended up selling it and buying at 9620RX with a Cummins in it… no issues yet.
Good videos mate when I was young all I needed was a 12” shifter .Hardly needed to use it .I had Fiat’s never replaced a water pump some tractors done 15000 hrs .But alas today nothing lasts . Keep safe
Couple things I’ve learned over the years on these. First is you don’t need to remove the hose to pull the fan drive. Second if you remove the boot that holds the cooler lines to the water pump housing, the hole allows the bearing cavity to breathe and can aid in removal and installation of the driven assembly.
Keep up the good work love watching you on UA-cam god bless
Wow, that's one the most complex fan drive systems I've seen. Why not have a straight hydraulic drive?
Like what the land owner that use to till our fields with the 4455. The new stuff aren't quite as good as the old stuff. I really agree. 70s tractors are the shit compared to the new tractors. Today still running strong.
Ty for another great video Zeth. Always enjoyable, interesting, informative, educational and entertaining. All along never knew what what the " K " stood for.....till you showed the tool that dad made ( impressive ). That does fits you, the Key to success 😊.
It's always nice to be able to catch one of your videos. 👍 and subscribed. Happy subscriber 😊!
“ it is a bomb, so you gotta be careful “ lol. Love this channel!
They actually make a "wrench extender"? At our shop we call that a pipe.
Either buy an extender or make one. They work much better than a pipe.
Looks like the radiator needs a clean
Buen día, como siempre de 10 tus vídeos, x favor subí más contenido..
I’ll never understand why Deere doesn’t just give up on the stupid variable fan. Either run a hydraulic fan or have direct drive or viscous. Any money you might save on efficiency is lost on repairs. This is the case on ALL JD models with variable speed fan. Especially s670 combines with the 9.0 where the idler gear is famous for coming off and grinding into the front cover. Brutal designs.
Zeth certainly seems to spend a fair bit of time on fan drives...and replacing them with updated drives. It's good that Deere is continually improving their designs and offering upgrades to older machines...but it often seems they're using the customer to test their designs and them charging them to fix the problem if they fail. Good business model 🙂.
Cool custom wrench
Finished the corn yesterday. Lost one bearing on a grain cart, otherwise no issues. Makes a guy understand why the red paint pays better. Oh and none of the equipment is new by any stretch.
Ive watched all your videos for a while now. I love watching someone do what they are so good at. That being said, Ive worked in Aviation my entire life. Military, Airlines and Corporate. From day one the rule was always never wear any jewelry. Rings and watches especially. It's not worth it to have your finger torn off your hand by some freak accident. Keep that green iron movin!!
Great time to pressure wash radiator with the fan out of the way
Great video as always mate! love the vids all the way from Australia here! also just wondering if you had the part numbers of the john Deere engine barring over tools by and chance? Kindest regards :)
Thank you zeth ,its a hand full runing the buggy
Did you remember to check if that fan drive input shaft was straight on this example? JD might balk at a new motor.
Tell you what Zak - when I see a guy your build bending a long SnapOn bar - you don't have to stress the force! Again - good to see how John Deere have designed to make your life easier. How many hours on the 9529R? Has it had a hard life? Difficult to tell from my distance, when I see the paint job in almost showroom condition - I expect the engine to carry on at least till a bit of rust shows.
Hard to believe JD does not have detailed maintenance manuals to do these jobs the most efficient way possible. Does each mechanic in the field.just.figure it out?
Wow some of this carnage lately... yikes.
10:15 find resting an air hammer needle on your pry bar and letting it rip to create vibration really does wonders in this situation. absolutely had deere double bearing set ups in compression tension pulleys the worst.
Another great video, Thanks Zeth!
Wow such carnage.
Popping out air cleaner = exhaust valve not opening, valve train failure. Just so you know old guys like your stuff. The old Cummins engines had a compression release for cold weather starting. The exhaust push tube had a collar at the center, which a shaft had cut outs to match the collars. Driver pulls a cable which operates a bell crank, which rotates shaft, which holds exhaust valve open, which allows engine to spin fast. The exhaust push tubes would break where the collar was. Hence popping thru air cleaner.
Don't mean a thing today but let you know old timers enjoy your content.
Woot woot!! First to see this video. Love these videos!!!
Schön, wieder ein neues, mega spannendes Video, danke 🇨🇭😇
Very good Video 👍 👍
It's great to see your techniques.
Have you ever tryed pushing the Driven Shaft out with a Grease Gun?
the zip ties on the spring is so useful for s;prings we have to fight, thanks for the so obvious solution we never thought of!!
I’m a farmer in central Mississippi. Really enjoy your videos. Keep them coming when you can.
That's a sweet tool your dad made for you!
It sure is!
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Now I see why you can do the Big Hammer Challenge I think the Company needs 2 People on jobs like that for Protection from Workmen Comp injuries! Great Job Zeth!
Hey used to work on Aircraft and found I had to take off my rings and watch because they get caught on things and something it is tough to get your hand out or your finger. And you have a nice watch . Hate see it scratched
Like the thinking of you and your father! A +++ fore that one Sir's! Best Regards Peter Eriksson Sweden Europe 😅😊😊!
Use fuel return tubes from a 4440 for that snap ring on the fan drive
It may run just a little cooler if they cleaned the radiator out ...lol
Price ?
That 9520 looks almost brand new , What would cause a knocking in the motor already ??? , Good video and subd !
Radiator may want to be cleaned
Thanks for bringing us along!
Get Granny's Roaster Oven you use for heating bearings, and you can test the thermostats in hot water. In bulk. 🎉
Dear John Deere design team... Please design a fan shroud that can be removed in sections. Suggestions... quadrant modules?
When you compromised the spring and put cable ties on it to get it out!
Why wouldn't you compress the new one and put cable ties on it to give you more room to get the fan back in once the fan is in place cut the ties...
Next time take the keepers off the bolts on the fan so you don’t have to disassemble the driven fan. I cut mine off with a set of long dikes .
Thanks for sharing Zeth always very interesting 🦘
Where did you get the belt
gauge at
Through Deere parts
Another great vid! Keep the deere's running and stay safe
Just wondering why you didn’t put new water pump in with 4000 hours on the tractor you were right there just wondering?
I would have charged 10.000 in labor to fix that mess.
it took a mechanic 8 hours to change the alternator on my Kia Sorento and that was still easier than that fan drive. Man how do you do it?
What a bs setup they could have made it a hydraulic fan drive setup much easier like on loaders and skedsteers smdh
Zeth on a 8270r power shift you have to hold the clutch pedal smashed to the floor or it tells you the clutch is slipping, is this normal?
Needs a trans calibration probably
And yet another one where they "left the Fan on..." (Wind turbine 🎉") 3:12
"Dub Club" Membership with LSW tires.😊 0:56 😅
Why do they use that style fan drive? I’ve never seen that style on a heavy truck etc..
Ain’t a dam chance I would chip a tractor that cost more than most houses.
Are those redundant thermostats or are they for different systems?
Usually just for higher flow rates in a smallish housing. Isuzu runs 2 slightly different temp thermostats in 6hk1s to regulate temps better
Good job boys
Surely this dude is related to Derek at VGG??!
Lucky it didnt fuck the radiator when it popped
That was a fun show to watch. Thank you
Have u on several videos dealing with “fan drives”....the objective seems clear, pull air thru radiator, yet the fan system seems SO complex and complicated....WHY?...obviously a bigger objective for the fan...
"Lucky the customer had Powerguard". Or JD could build engines that last. Warranty isn't cheap. Someone ends up paying for failures.
Blame the EPA..
@@BORIKKEN That's a cop out.
@@SomeTechGuy666 Na that only applies to other manufacture's products. Deere....they can blame whoever they want.
I'm surprised that they don't wash equipment before putting it in for repairs.
Question: Why don't you clean the engines before working?
Their not paid to clean em, their paid to fix em!!😂
To clean the area where they are working!!!
Yeah bit of prep work , I clean before pulling stuff apart.
You only have to "clean" with air around the part you're working on.
in commercial work you only make the customer happy SAVING MONEY one day, the truck or tractor has got to run. fix it once, spend the money and the customer will be happy a long time.
This was great to watch.
But it’s still a pretty piece of junk.
Can anyone comment on how they like/dislike the wide tires on four wheel drive tractors? Thinking about putting a set on or maybe trading in for tracks. I'm sure it's going to be 50/50 just as the debate on tracks or tires.
We’re ya out by Newman Illinois?
I went through there yes.
Is it common to change water pumps as prophylaxis? I had one blow up at 2500 hours on my massey 4.4l and now i'm over 5000 hours. Maybe i should just replace it before it gives up?
JD Quality has dramatically dropped over the last several years. One of my friends just had a rod go thru the block on a new deere with less then 50 hrs on it. Deere is fully warrantying every thing and free of charge tractor to use until his is repaired, but he said that may be the last green tractor he ever buys.
I have a 1999 9300 thats been great since new but if i were to buy a new one it would most likely be red.
Deere's prices have gone way up and quality has dropped way off.
Great content. Love that.
I love your channel. Great content and fascinating! But I have to say that I don’t understand the percentage of failures on some of these Deeres. I have had two and had a lot of issues. We have since changed everything to Kubota over the years and we have absolutely zero issues with any of the equipment; excavators, tractors, etc. Just basic service… fluid changes, filters, etc. religiously follow the factory maintenance schedules. But nonetheless, love your skills, professionalism, and ingenuity! Keep the great vids coming!
Did anyone else feel real old when he addressed the radiator as the 'cooling package' ?
It’s s cooling package because it consists of more than one cooler stacked together. It’s not just a radiator
Isn't that 'more than just one radiator' a cooler is a drinks cabinet.. (Don't respond I'm just yanking your chain here..)@@ZKMasterTech
Every tractor owner that’s sitting in this shop should have bought a kubota. Lol they might not make em this big but with the time not spent in the shop they are catching up on work. 😂😂😂
They can make a Spring compressor for that, zip ties can pop under that much tension and bad things can happen. To good mechanics... 7:20
Deere Sensors are either hit or miss on if you get a good one that will last. air temp sensors and water temp sensors on deeres it's normal to see them go to turds at after 1,100 hours from factory new. rare earth metal penny saving costs making the rare earth material essentially spray on 1st coat of paint thick. executives need new yachts every year, and leer jets, and 5/6th vacation homes on the med coast.