Zeth this is the ultimate example of Great Team Work and working Smarter not Harder! Also great the way you all read each others next actions. Your all definitely the type of Techs I used to love working with. Loved the jig for the hydraulic tank too. Thanks for a great video.
Oh my gosh , when you took the cover off i could not believe what has to be done to remove the tank. Plus you had to drive there and home almost 2 hours each way..I hope sloan is taking care of you and josh. Both of you certainly deserve it !! I am gussing but i bet this repair is close to 10-12 grand
I worked inside Air Force Jets fuel tanks for 25 years and had numerous fuel burns over them years from fuel soaking through my coveralls. So I understand how diesel is since I was in JP-4, JP-5, and JP-8.
My father in law ran a BMW dealership here in the UK. All the workshop lads were on a bonus system to beat the allocated hours for warranty work. It certainly upped the throughput of the workshop and the lads came up with some very innovative ways to access difficult parts. Some even created their own tooling, just like your brace for the tank. Regards from Scotland.
Great job. I'm 74 and we we're auto workers and grain farmers in central Michigan. And if I couldn't get a job at Buick, Michigan State had a program to get certified as farm machinery mechanic. Far less complicated than today; but I still eat this stuff up. I never did farm because of Vietnam' but went into the Coast Guard and wound up in Maine and spent my last 38 years as a papermaker. Next best thing to farming. Always a challenge......loved it. I like the way you explain things and have an employer who lets you do it when you can. Truthfully, you're better off just paying the labor cost and letting you guys handle it. I was an engineman in the service and sometimes you're better off letting guys like you handle it. And before I leave, I'd like to give a thumbs up to Gosh. Great personality and looks like someone who's fun to work with. Keep up the good work.
They should send a couple of design engineers out to fix these things. Maybe then they would spend a little more time figuring out how to design stuff that is a little easier to repair.
I wrote work packages for nuclear submarine reactor repairs. We got difficult bud ultimately successful designs. Labor and sweat is ‘free’. Errors are very expensive. So are unintended consequences.
Thanks for another great video ZK and Josh and Caleb. It was interesting for sure. Wow and wow. Big job there gentlemen. The three of you did great time wise. Twelve hours by the book but the three of you did it in five. Great going!!!!!!!!!!! Teamwork was the key here and knowledge of what had to be done to get the job done. My compliments to all three of you. Nice work. Lots to take apart to get at the tank. Never saw a tank on its own and was a lot bigger than what I thought. Wow. Thanks ZK for showing us this repair job. You all did great. Thanks for everything ZK. You all take care and be safe. Thanks. The Iowa Farm Boy. Steve. 😊😊👋👍👍👍
Must be a common thing, I just had to do one last week in Washington. I used the crane for all the doors though haha I ain’t as big as you 😂 it’s not too much fun without help definitely took me wayyy longer than you guys. Awesome job the jig was the best idea and now I am making that as we speak 👍
Pretty sure the fuel tank is a pip in a certain serial number range and another way of doing it if you have a crane is you can hang the reservoir and the def tank from a couple of straps and get the tank out with a fork lift, just saves removing the def tank
For a new(ish) type combine and that company are already on their third tank makes me think that for a non moving part that is a serious flaw. Here's hoping it's still under guarantee
That was a task and a half . Good job there was three of you . Well done to all of you . What's worrying is .if this is your third tank to replace the the fault On the tanks wants looking into 👍👍👍
Dang you have had to do that more than once. Seems like a design flaw guessing the engineers didn’t do vibration testing on a vibe table and thus the tank has a resonant frequency below 25 hz when it’s 3/4 full. It’s people like you that make John Deere look good
Atleast the weather has been superb this fall for you guys. You know its a bad problem when u make a special tool for next time lol. I hope deere don't watch that u beat book time and adjust theirs
I’m surprised your not in a truck with a crane and I’m really surprised that your shop doesn’t have overhead crane sure would make some of the jobs I have seen you do way easier. But I sure do like your video’s.
5.5hr x 2 = 11hrs. 3hr x2=6 (driving time) Loading/unloading 1hr. Plus other tech 3hr? Grand total= 21hrs. People think you make money in the AG word, assuming this is warranty.
Is the new tank a upgrade tell JD to get back to making quality ag machines. I just bought a JD 560M baler this summer and the hydraulic turn knob for bale density fell off starting to regret the green.
I can not believe that sloan does not supply cranes for your service trucks it just shows they can care less for guys working in the field and there safety
The problem is the skip welds on the inside of the tank, you can see the skip welds for the outside by the dimples on the bottom of the tank, it can also be completely fixed by cutting and tig welding on oval shaped reinforcement plates on the old tank
They still haven't fixed their fuel tanks from cracking at the welds??? Lol here in iowa got a weld shop fixing them nonstop... junk for a million dollars...
Yeah, agree on this one. A 25k service truck with a 8k wireless crane would have saved at least an hour on this job, pull the trailer with that truck, you can set the old tank on the trailer and grab the new tank without repositioning.
Nice to see a metal fuel tank compared to plastic! How many fuel tanks have you done on a X9? Deere gives you 12 hrs to R&R but for the most part you had 3 Guys working on it so 3 men times 5 hours you did it in 15 hours. Or does Deere book time allow for 2-3 helpers? Flat rates that I have seen is based on one guy working on it. None the less good video! Thanks!
@@BRPFan A leaking tank is otay for you... But a plastic tank is a liability in a fire... Insurance estimates 80% of all reported combine fires result in a total loss. A good portion of the remaining 20% should be written off as well but by the time the additional claims are submitted vs the labor spent they power through with more money. We will just ignore the prolific use of poly tanks used in every industry without issue. Especially on road tanks subjected to destructive testing....
@@ShainAndrews Well most times metal tanks don’t all leak, come on! I am sure Deere has fixed the problem with these new tanks. Ask any Fireman who has been at combine fires and they will tell you the very same.
When running telescopic loaders why do inexperienced operators still try to drive forward jerkily and bumpily when you have a perfectly smooth tele boom that doesn't get used?
I assumed it would have been a poly tank leaking like that, NOT metal (aluminum?). And having done 3 now? Crazy. Also, on the book hrs, is the 12 manhours or duration, since with 3 ppl on it u spent close to 12 mhrs on it? If had to recon all those hydro lines even more.
Check your math 5.5 hours x 2 guys=11 hours plus a third guy for a couple hours= 13 hours. Im sure 12 hours is in the shop. Not bad at all for in the field.
Sounds like a design defect if its the 3rd one they have replaced. I sorta wonder if the aluminum? fatigues (like a beer can) from all the machine vibration and diesel dancing around in the tank/harmonics?
I would've thought tank was poly b4 I saw vid. Also welds were likely leak tested in fab shop. Cracks had to have appeared from run time metal fatigue (my take above).
it cracks in the middle cause thats where the baffles are inthe tank it would help if they didnt use paper thin aluminum but it seems every single tank on these cracks in the same spot
I wish I could stay as clean as you yahoos do while mechanicing. I always end up covered from head to toe. 90% of the time will also be covered in hydro oil.
If I am not mistaken😅 you have had that same problem on a few others on fuel tank. Sounds to me some engineers need to be let go from the John Deere company. Then as an added bonus they have to pay for everyone that fails out of their own pockets. These engineers these days need to wake the f up and go back to the beginning. Need to fix all the previous problems before designing new garbage like now.
Zeth is obviously the main stud in these productions, but everyone needs a Josh.
Sincerely, a mechanically curious city slicker.
Boss “ I need a crane for my truck “. I don’t know how I’d function without mine.
Zeth this is the ultimate example of Great Team Work and working Smarter not Harder! Also great the way you all read each others next actions. Your all definitely the type of Techs I used to love working with. Loved the jig for the hydraulic tank too. Thanks for a great video.
What a job making that gib was working smart not harder for sure great going.
Oh my gosh , when you took the cover off i could not believe what has to be done to remove the tank. Plus you had to drive there and home almost 2 hours each way..I hope sloan is taking care of you and josh. Both of you certainly deserve it !! I am gussing but i bet this repair is close to 10-12 grand
A new fuel tank on a s680 john deere which is a smaller combine is around 20g
I worked inside Air Force Jets fuel tanks for 25 years and had numerous fuel burns over them years from fuel soaking through my coveralls. So I understand how diesel is since I was in JP-4, JP-5, and JP-8.
I'm glad I'm out of the aviation field. The fumes are so hazardous. I changed a lot of fuel pumps in C-130s in the Navy.
My father in law ran a BMW dealership here in the UK. All the workshop lads were on a bonus system to beat the allocated hours for warranty work. It certainly upped the throughput of the workshop and the lads came up with some very innovative ways to access difficult parts. Some even created their own tooling, just like your brace for the tank. Regards from Scotland.
Warranty Time often pays 50% of what it actually takes.
Little wonder so many are quitting.
I like watching this work being done from the comforts of my AC house. lol. you guys killed it though!
Pretty nifty making that jig...saved a lot of time vs having to take the tank out completely :)
Great job. I'm 74 and we we're auto workers and grain farmers in central Michigan. And if I couldn't get a job at Buick, Michigan State had a program to get certified as farm machinery mechanic. Far less complicated than today; but I still eat this stuff up. I never did farm because of Vietnam' but went into the Coast Guard and wound up in Maine and spent my last 38 years as a papermaker. Next best thing to farming. Always a challenge......loved it. I like the way you explain things and have an employer who lets you do it when you can. Truthfully, you're better off just paying the labor cost and letting you guys handle it. I was an engineman in the service and sometimes you're better off letting guys like you handle it. And before I leave, I'd like to give a thumbs up to Gosh. Great personality and looks like someone who's fun to work with. Keep up the good work.
They should send a couple of design engineers out to fix these things. Maybe then they would spend a little more time figuring out how to design stuff that is a little easier to repair.
I wrote work packages for nuclear submarine reactor repairs. We got difficult bud ultimately successful designs. Labor and sweat is ‘free’. Errors are very expensive. So are unintended consequences.
@@doughuffman5790ok
I know you guys spent some time admiring that challenger 2T
You certainly earned your pay on this one.
Your lucky to have a “go getter” like Josh 👍
Thanks for another great video ZK and Josh and Caleb. It was interesting for sure.
Wow and wow. Big job there gentlemen. The three of you did great time wise. Twelve hours by the book but the three of you did it in five. Great going!!!!!!!!!!!
Teamwork was the key here and knowledge of what had to be done to get the job done.
My compliments to all three of you. Nice work.
Lots to take apart to get at the tank. Never saw a tank on its own and was a lot bigger than what I thought. Wow.
Thanks ZK for showing us this repair job. You all did great.
Thanks for everything ZK.
You all take care and be safe. Thanks.
The Iowa Farm Boy. Steve.
😊😊👋👍👍👍
Awesome job guys!!.. Teamwork at it's finest!.. The Sloan Implement Service Techs!!..😉
Must be a common thing, I just had to do one last week in Washington. I used the crane for all the doors though haha I ain’t as big as you 😂 it’s not too much fun without help definitely took me wayyy longer than you guys. Awesome job the jig was the best idea and now I am making that as we speak 👍
Pretty sure the fuel tank is a pip in a certain serial number range and another way of doing it if you have a crane is you can hang the reservoir and the def tank from a couple of straps and get the tank out with a fork lift, just saves removing the def tank
For a new(ish) type combine and that company are already on their third tank makes me think that for a non moving part that is a serious flaw. Here's hoping it's still under guarantee
Great work guys. Really enjoy watching.
Sorry I missed you today, I did get to say hi to Josh.
I ran up to pick up a quick hitch and you were out working on a combine.
Maybe next time.
Next time!
That was a task and a half . Good job there was three of you .
Well done to all of you .
What's worrying is .if this is your third tank to replace the the fault
On the tanks wants looking into 👍👍👍
Another great vid! You earned your pay on this deere! Stay safe and keep the deere's running
Hats off to you JD mechanics!!!! Clean and Professional
Schön, das ihr mit eurer Arbeit immer Helfen könnt 🇨🇭😇
Dang you have had to do that more than once. Seems like a design flaw guessing the engineers didn’t do vibration testing on a vibe table and thus the tank has a resonant frequency below 25 hz when it’s 3/4 full. It’s people like you that make John Deere look good
Excellent work! Missing chaff material is pretty much the way it goes...every way the can save a dime they will!
Tell Caleb Dinger says hi. Zack you do a great job with all these videos. I’m sure you’ve got many people to go into the tech program.
Finding kids that actually have shreds of work ethic is HARD these days.
Atleast the weather has been superb this fall for you guys. You know its a bad problem when u make a special tool for next time lol. I hope deere don't watch that u beat book time and adjust theirs
Josh is stepping on the NOT A STEP! Danger!!!!
Great job by all of you guys
What a freaking beast man need a couple cold drinks after this one 😊
Good job guys. No one got excited.good crew. Worth every cent.
My friend here in Alberta had to change out his fuel tank also.
I’m surprised your not in a truck with a crane and I’m really surprised that your shop doesn’t have overhead crane sure would make some of the jobs I have seen you do way easier. But I sure do like your video’s.
Those UMHW plastic Rails are necessary to spread the weight of the fuel tank out. 28:28
A bit of plating and dome TIG and that tank will be goid to go. Good job.
Great job guys! 12 hours, I didn't think it would take your crew that long and then you nailed it in 5!
12 man hours... think....
@@fryklundstfr I am sure that is correct so the company lost money, LOL
@@sundancer3700 us dealers lose money on almost every warranty job. Manufacturers will rarely pay what it takes to do the job.
5.5hr x 2 = 11hrs. 3hr x2=6 (driving time) Loading/unloading 1hr. Plus other tech 3hr? Grand total= 21hrs. People think you make money in the AG word, assuming this is warranty.
Is the new tank a upgrade tell JD to get back to making quality ag machines. I just bought a JD 560M baler this summer and the hydraulic turn knob for bale density fell off starting to regret the green.
Nice Cat two track sitting in the background
Happy Happy, Joy Joy!
I can not believe that sloan does not supply cranes for your service trucks it just shows they can care less for guys working in the field and there safety
The problem is the skip welds on the inside of the tank, you can see the skip welds for the outside by the dimples on the bottom of the tank, it can also be completely fixed by cutting and tig welding on oval shaped reinforcement plates on the old tank
They still haven't fixed their fuel tanks from cracking at the welds??? Lol here in iowa got a weld shop fixing them nonstop... junk for a million dollars...
Your dealership needs to buy you guys service trucks with crains on them
Yeah, agree on this one. A 25k service truck with a 8k wireless crane would have saved at least an hour on this job, pull the trailer with that truck, you can set the old tank on the trailer and grab the new tank without repositioning.
At least looks like a good day hope it not chilly or cold
Saw a NewHolland in the back. Curious to know with which one the farmer is more satisfied.
Great videos
Im really surprised ur company doesn’t have service trucks with cranes not sure what i would do with out mine
jd has a tank problem i think 3 tanks for you guys like you,re videos
Great job
Always amazed . How does a non moving part like a fuel tank crack on a fairly new machine that cost 400 to 500 thousand dollars.
The crack does not appear to be along the weld lines, it is so strange to find it on the flat area
Nice to see a metal fuel tank compared to plastic! How many fuel tanks have you done on a X9? Deere gives you 12 hrs to R&R but for the most part you had 3 Guys working on it so 3 men times 5 hours you did it in 15 hours. Or does Deere book time allow for 2-3 helpers? Flat rates that I have seen is based on one guy working on it.
None the less good video! Thanks!
How is a metal tank "nice"?
@@ShainAndrews A metal diesel fuel tank is nice is case of a fire. With a plastic tank it melts right away and fire really begins to burn!
@@BRPFan A leaking tank is otay for you... But a plastic tank is a liability in a fire... Insurance estimates 80% of all reported combine fires result in a total loss. A good portion of the remaining 20% should be written off as well but by the time the additional claims are submitted vs the labor spent they power through with more money. We will just ignore the prolific use of poly tanks used in every industry without issue. Especially on road tanks subjected to destructive testing....
@@ShainAndrews Well most times metal tanks don’t all leak, come on! I am sure Deere has fixed the problem with these new tanks. Ask any Fireman who has been at combine fires and they will tell you the very same.
Good stuff
I noticed that some techs now suspend the hydraulic reservoir and the DEF tank from a service crane instead of removing the DEF tank.
cant wait till i get a new newholland CNX11 combine.
Nice Vid
When running telescopic loaders why do inexperienced operators still try to drive forward jerkily and bumpily when you have a perfectly smooth tele boom that doesn't get used?
because they're inexperienced!
Great job,
I assumed it would have been a poly tank leaking like that, NOT metal (aluminum?). And having done 3 now? Crazy. Also, on the book hrs, is the 12 manhours or duration, since with 3 ppl on it u spent close to 12 mhrs on it? If had to recon all those hydro lines even more.
Looks like a stainless steel tank.
at least the sun was out
Did you ever have to pull the plastic strips off the old tank so it wasn’t metal on metal ?
Perfect 👌
vi un video de John Deer en el que decian que no se romperian nunca sus maquinas,y esto que es y mas que he visto de este mecanico
I get a combine is one of the most complicated pieces of equipment on the farm but if downtime is important why not make it modular?
How do you organize all of the nuts and bolts you take off?
Put them back with the part
Looks like your in foosland,Illinois???
One would think the customer would sort of maybe clean it to cut down on the cost of the service call but I’m probably wrong.
Why did the tank fail?
Any ideas what caused the crack(s) in the tank?
Thats what i want to know!!!
I always stress out on jobs with a road trip. The whole way there, did I get this, did I get that, do I have the tool.....
Big hint with the bucket
What was the reason for the crack in the tank
That NH combine in the background can't be a good omen for you guys 😢
@0:49 noticing the Hy Tran bucket…..
All the same crap.
all to satisfy some stylist!
Buen día, muy bueno el video
Check your math
5.5 hours x 2 guys=11 hours plus a third guy for a couple hours= 13 hours. Im sure 12 hours is in the shop. Not bad at all for in the field.
Caleb’s time doesn’t count. He’s free lol
seems like theres a defect with alot of the x9 tanks
i heard the welding robot missed a couple places
Hard hats:)
That was weird how that tank cracked
its a common problem already showing up..
was that man hours that deer said?
God damn it I was not trusting plastic tanks but they've been tough for several years you think aluminum would be better
Two! ahh Ahh, AhhhI Ahhh! (Count) 25:29
We have neighbors that have had tanks crack on ther X-9's
Does it go back for failure inspection?
You've had to replace multiple fuel tanks? 😮
Dose your billing reflect the time savings or do you bill flat rate
sure Deere will be getting a bill for 12hrs labour, shouldnt cut yourself short because of your own hardwork and ingenuity to get the job done
@@Phantom0309 if its warranty, im sure it's billed for the full 12 hours to Mother Deere. If out of warranty, labor billed per person probably.
Interesting that the tank cracked in the middle of a flat surface rather than on an existing weld.
Sounds like a design defect if its the 3rd one they have replaced. I sorta wonder if the aluminum? fatigues (like a beer can) from all the machine vibration and diesel dancing around in the tank/harmonics?
I would've thought tank was poly b4 I saw vid. Also welds were likely leak tested in fab shop. Cracks had to have appeared from run time metal fatigue (my take above).
it cracks in the middle cause thats where the baffles are inthe tank it would help if they didnt use paper thin aluminum but it seems every single tank on these cracks in the same spot
Pro,s from Dover
I can’t believe yall don’t have service trucks with cranes
How much does that tank cost ?
Alot
I wish I could stay as clean as you yahoos do while mechanicing. I always end up covered from head to toe. 90% of the time will also be covered in hydro oil.
Da sind aber die Maschinen von John Deere nicht alt,da geht schon viel kaputt!
👍👍👍
Well, at least it wasnt raining...
Is this a problem that’s common to the model?
So it took u 15hrs? 3 blokes 5 hrs?
Then the 9hrs of travel for 3 blokes and then ur per mile charge. 🤔 12hrs blew out
Fuel tank made in China 😊
No probably in North Korea.😂
If I am not mistaken😅 you have had that same problem on a few others on fuel tank. Sounds to me some engineers need to be let go from the John Deere company. Then as an added bonus they have to pay for everyone that fails out of their own pockets. These engineers these days need to wake the f up and go back to the beginning. Need to fix all the previous problems before designing new garbage like now.
Is it under warranty
John Dere has a very nice design = a hell lot of panels, or? From. CEO Peter Eriksson Falun Maskin Service, Dalarna, Sweden, Europe 😊😅😊!
What's with the million dollar combines falling apart??