I too feel sorry for the Nostalgia Critic. Here was a man who was wildly successful in the early stages of his career, and when he simply tried to take what he thought would be the next logical step in his creative career, he was mercilessly crushed by reality, leaving him unable to become anything more than the Nostalgia Critic.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. TeamFourStar was doing great until they started doing reviews, gaming, lets plays, etc then stopped doing DBZA as a result. If you have a talent for doing something effing do it…
As someone who still watches the Nostalgia Critic (and even then, I'm starting to get sick of his reviews too), this overview of Doug Walker and his website is very well articulated. It's primarily factual with only minor instances of subjective criticism from Mat here. Also, I have to appreciate him keeping the video as short as he did, it could not have been easy. But he pulled it off.
I watched him until this year, the dickishness of both him bashing Dark Knight Rises for the bajillionth time (sorry, that was the last film to get Batman’s heroic nature right) and The Star Wars sequels as “bad fan fiction” in his Batman vs. the Ninja Turtles review really angered me, because I have little tolerance for gatekeeping fanboys, and that showed how willing his is to cater to toxic fandoms.
@@MrWill9002 No, describing it as fan-fiction just placates assholes like Lucas and the gullible fanboys who easily forget that he never gave a shit about them and let themselves be used by him!
I still watch his content to this very day. They're not as impactful as his past videos, but they do have moments of brilliance. -In his _Cat in the Hat_ review, he says Dr. Seuss' stories, *"...are not just simple kids' books. They're stories that we continue to read, even today. They're stories that we remember years later, while other stories fade from our memories, and for good reason. They're stories that helped shaped our childhoods. With well thought out writing, imaginative drawings, and endearing morals...Good art doesn't come from focus groups or statistics. Good art comes from those who want to share with one another in their own unique way."* -In his _Lorax_ review, he talks about how *"...the popular way isn't always the lasting way."* , and why you should *"...always pick 'good' over 'popular'. Because once people grow out of it, and move on to the next 'popular thing', there's no other substance to bring them back. And the 'timeless' message, that you claim to fight so hard for, becomes just another passing trend to forget about."* -And in his _Ghostbusters 2016_ review, he accurately satirizes both sides of the fandom, and makes a bold statement by saying , *"You can still believe in equal rights, and think this movie sucks; you can still be a fan of the original **_Ghostbusters_** , and think this one is great. By God, you can have such a wide variety that you might even consider yourself to be A UNIQUE HUMAN BEING!"* I do wish him all the best despite what happened.
Whilst I only really watch him once in a while (mostly out of nostalgia ironically enough) I must admit those moments did make me smile. It shows that Doug does some have some modicum of passion and knowledge. Either that or it’s evidence of “a broken clock is still right twice a day.” Either way, I think Doug has that potential of being a good critic and give a good argument for his views. Whether or not he succeeds is entirely up to the viewer. I’m just saying. I’m glad I still have those memories of being a fan when I was younger.
The thing is, I've actually taken inspiration from Mr. Enter, writing-wise. While I've avoided the videos he made of mask wearing and PSA's, why do I feel like I listened to the wrong person?
@@daelen.cclark honestly, you can cherry pick anyone's political opinions and call them a bad person. They really should be taken with a grain of salt in the context of critiquing a reviewer.
@Luke Hayes Even ignoring the politics, Mr. Enter is just a poor reviewer. In the majority of his videos, his criticisms boil down to taking the target out of context and generally not doing enough research, resulting in a lot of misinformation being delivered to the viewer. In addition, he rambles on for too long about a subject or two here and there, and the amount of repetition is unbearable. Even in his reviews, he'll go on political tangents more frequently than necessary. Not only does it serve little to no purpose within the reviews, it also makes them come off as unfocused. In short, his content is disjointed at best, and unsalvageable at worst. D Minus.
I stopped really liking him when he made an ass of himself about Ghostbusters (that at least WAS a Ghostbusters film and not a glorified Stranger Things ripoff). That said, I’ll at least give him credit that he respected that it’s not a terrible thing to have a Star Wars trilogy for the youth of today, that’s WAY more than I can say about Doug!
it’s sad whenever I see Doug all I can do is just become sad because of once what was and how much I used to respect him, Only a reminder now of failure and disappointment on so many levels
I personally don't see how he's a failure. Yea sure he's not as successful but he made a career for himself and at one point was a decent reviewer. Just like everything life changes
@@ChrisControversial His content and criticism aren’t as good as they used to be hence reviews like the wall and his content is stagnant and just awful and dull to watch. he’s still getting by but honestly there’s no reason for him to keep on reviewing.
He also used to be less of an asshole fanboy and more supportive of progressive media, his pivot away from that to a “lol, everyone sucks” mentality is why I stopped watching him.
Ditto, man. And yet, I have to feel a little sorry for him. Despite everything, he wasn't some criminal mastermind; just a relatively normal guy who wanted to be as good with comedy as any classic Looney Tunes short. Back in his prime, he was a champion of that format; but today, he's both a hack and a laughingstock. Personally, I pin much of this on Doug and Rob being influenced by those like Michaud, Antwiler and that one guy whose handle was JewWario. Yeah, the latter may not have been mentioned in this retrospective look into Doug's past, but he and Antwiler weren't angels either. From what I gathered, they were part of that sexual harassments charge. One of the few good things to come out of it was that many of his former partners did get bigger and better without being so misguided. Lovhaug in particular has lately been on a roll, even getting a movie of his own that ain't half bad.
PS has collaborated w/ NC two times before his most recent one (making it three total), including his "Top 10 Creepiest Animated Movies" AND "Top 10 Worst Movies of all Time" videos.
@@SmangItDrums I don’t know if Josh and Doug are still friends Edit: never mind, I just saw the new video, that’s a pretty good indication they’re still friends
Well done. I still like Doug and the Nostalgia Critic but yeah some of the backlash I can understand and trust me as a long-time fan of the series, I know his strengths and weaknesses and when it came to the #changethechannel era and the "review" that was The Wall, it goes to show that the Nostalgia Critic must remember it so we don't have to.
Doug Walker's vlogs for Avatar, Adventure Time, and other shows and films served as the model for my Powerpuff Girls and Hey Arnold! Vlogs. I enjoyed making them and getting to these shows for the first time. I can see why he doesn't do them though as they are rather time-consuming.
Honestly, that was one of the main reasons I stuck by the dude for so long. You can tell that he wants to be open to the changes in the world of entertainment, and that includes animation. So it's cool to see him check out cartoons that were after his time. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that his "Are Kid Shows Better Now Than Ever" video was one of many to stop being so closed minded about animation, and start appreciating the shows we have now. And he's still doing it! He created a series about looking at dark episodes of cartoons including shows he didn't grow up with like Courage the Cowardly Dog. He's doing TV shows for Disneycember now (and I can't tell you how happy I was about him loving Phineas and Ferb). And he even had a video dedicated to Toonami where he has his younger colleagues do a retrospective on the shows THEY grew up with, even poking fun at his misguided Sailor Moon review: NC: I already reviewed this! Heather: Yeah, but I can review it correctly! Not to mention his Duckman review where he talks about how it gave birth to some of our favorite adult cartoons today.
@@kylemorello4787 In that video, he only mentioned the Looney Tunes shorts and the animated shows from the 80's and 90's he grew up with like Animaniacs, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the Batman animated series from 1992 and Transformers compared to Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Gravity Falls. I'm shocked he never mentioned Hanna-Barbera in that video because that was the company that made actual classic animated tv shows before since Looney Tunes was just a series of short animated movies known as the Warner Bros. Cartoons because they/we didn't have television yet until the 50's. Classic animated shows they made like The Flintstones, Yogi Bear, Scooby-Doo and The Jetsons. I would know he wasn't a Hanna-Barbera fan and called their cartoons boring and cheap which is not even true. They are simple and straightforward and let's not forget Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera who owned the studio made Tom and Jerry already for MGM before shutting down the cartoon studio in the 50's. As someone like Doug who loves Tom and Jerry, this is coming out as harsh since he grew up in the 80's and 90's and wasn't a Cartoon Network kid. They made Tom and Jerry first and it was for a major Hollywood studio with big money. He would know Hanna-Barbera's shows made it huge. Same with Fat Albert and Rocky and Bullwinkle before Animaniacs, TMNT and Ren and Stimpy. He bashed the live-action movie of The Flintstones and even bashed the tv show itself the movie was based on while reviewing it. Well Doug u love The Simpsons more so that's why u hated it. U weren't even a Cartoon Network kid like me so if u don't like it, leave now. Also him mentioning cartoons based on a toyline made to sell more toys. Seriously Doug? Ninja Turtles is what u love and that show was selling toys too. Even though Ninja Turtles started out as a freaking comic book in 1984, not a toyline.
@@kylemorello4787 He was in college when Courage came around. I watched Courage when I was a kid. I can review it better than him. And he reviewed The Powerpuff Girls movie and compared the show 2 Ren and Stimpy when it is not. It felt like Rocky and Bullwinkle and Hanna-Barbera just like Dexter's Lab and both shows were Hanna-Barbera already.
It shows that he has evolved. He's not exactly doing the same content he did way back in the day. He's a lot more informative and even pokes fun at more movies he legit likes or at least finds them good. Personally, I'm glad that I still watch his videos despite some of the hiccups he had along the way. As for the "Change the Channel" stuff, I found much of the accusations to be hypocritical considering some of the shady and/or disingenuous things some of the accusers have done, themselves. I do not wish to dwell on that any further, however.
@@SapphireDragonDX same. This year has been his best imo. No more vids that feature him yelling or doing bad skits and humor. Now it feels more intelligent, laid back and not as trolly
As I’m still a fan of the Nostalgia Critic, I found this video to be informative of what a internet celebrity can go through during their careers with their ups and downs.
Well, truth be told, the Nostalgia Critic's videos left a very helpful impact on me. His videos helped teach me about what makes a story good and what makes a story bad. He taught me how to make a story and how not to make a story. He even taught me about how to criticize my story writing as well through his Nostalgia Critic videos. Doug Walker helped me become a fantasy novelist and I've even got 2 of 5 of my fantasy novels published and the second book of my series even got a 4/4 star review from a professional book reviewer. Currently, I'm working on Book 4 of 5, while I'm still waiting for Book 3 to get professionally edited before I publish it (it may take a while still though). My fantasy novels are about a girl with autism that gets kidnapped into a magical fantasy dimension where she becomes the heroine of the foreign world in order for her to be let back into her universe again. The first book is titled 'Reflection: The Uishanole' and the second one is called 'Reflection: The Vinston Scepter'. My goal is to have my fantasy novels turned into the greatest animated Disney movies ever (preferably in traditional 2D hand-drawn animation). Also, if these get made into Disney movies, then the main character named Phoebe, the girl with autism, will be the very first Disney princess with autism and her nationality is Canada. The books can be purchased as Kindle books or Paperback books on Amazon. Here's the link to my website, in case any of you want to see the book reviews and read more information about The Reflection Series: jtldimension.weebly.com/
Oh my God, your story sounds amazing! As an autistic women, I’m always excited for more representation about my kind. My brain is swimming with stories and goals too.
Nice. Doug's given me inspiration on what I could do as well. Although I take more influence from people like Linkara and Tony Goldmark out of better trust and more credibility (Even inspired me to write my own comic script). I hope you do great with whatever you do.
animat, i watched your stuff all the time growing up, as well as doug’s. i was obsessed with your content, as well as his content, for a good period of time while i was in late elementary school and throughout middle school because i’ve always had a particular passion for film and film criticism. years have passed, and i’m 17 now - almost 18. i’m planning to minor in film and i write reviews often, and i hope to expand more with film as a whole. doug’s legacy took a heavy toll on me - while i hadn’t watched the nostalgia critic in years, it was absolutely shattering to see someone i grew up with become something of a modern, internet greek tragedy. but, as for you, i need to thank you for how much your work has inspired me ever since i was a kid. this was the first video of your’s that i’ve seen in YEARS, and i couldn’t help but have the biggest smile on my face, mainly because i realized that you’ve just always been great. your content is just phenomenal, and it’s nice to see that you’re still making amazing videos - and i’m really excited to tune into more in the future. you’re definitely one of the inspirations and motivators as to why i’ve always been so passionate about pursuing film, and - once more - thank you for everything. :)
"The CTC movement ended up imploding itself due to some obsessive people letting the drama go off the rails" Yep, that is true, looking at you MissAnthroPony... ugh
@@Shades14 Hey, don't throw MAP under the bus here. If anything, he's one of the only sane people in this movement and won't stand for Channel Awesome's BULLSHIT.
Reviewing content based on anger just doesn't sell anymore, it used to when the videos had to be short and there wasn't much of an audience, but times have changed and Doug Walker absolutely knows that, the Demo Reel and the reviews past that were his attempts to spice up this dying genre in a way where it could also be his outlet for creativity, problem is Doug didn't internalize any film-making techniques and he can't write outside of a Yakko Warner/Groucho Marx-type of character in a equally wacky world, the former crew moved on, Doug was left behind.
True. In the early days of UA-cam in the late 00s, the videos were mostly done by amateurs, and since internet entertainment was still a rather new thing in general, people were more easily entertained by it. So back then you could be successful with video that were cheaply produced and simple, but had good content. But times have changed, and today, a whole professional industry has become of what once started as small amateur productions, and many UA-cam series have budgets that aren't much below the budgets of better TV shows, and it shows in increasingly good production values. But Doug has so much failed at making his shows look more professional, the green screen effects in his videos still look cheap and lazy and haven't evolved since around 2009.
I half agree, half disagree, well, actually I agree, but with a big exception. Generally I completely agree because I believe that even a bad movie deserves respect for the people that made it, specially when there's effort and passion behind it, and being "bad" is just lack of experience by the filmmakers or just taste of the reviewer. I've seen some UA-camrs that are dead serious with their hate and contempt for the movies, to the point that they are annoying, rude and whenever they say "this sucks" it can't be taken seriously. Some of them are Your Movie Sucks, I Hate Everything, Krystoff Raczinski and to a lesser degree, Schaffrillas Productions. However I've never found Doug to be on that league, since he's a comedian, and as that I never felt that his jokes on the films are to be taken seriously. He makes fun even of his favorite movies and I think that's very valid. At the end of every NC, he tells a summary where I think the real review stands in, which he's usually a more tame and objective, no matter how "angry" he seemed in the review. In other of his shows like DIsnyecember, he is not in character and thus you can see a more serious reviewer. I think that's the main reason between those I mentioned and DW. And the same applies to Cinema Sins, as I've never felt they're even real reviewers, they just purposely nitpick movies for jokes, but if they say "Action hero defies gravity *DING*" I mean, that's just a joke on movie magic ilogic, but doesn't mean they think the movie is bad just for tiny things like that, and yet, there's always someone in the comments taking those seriously.
I've sort of grown tired of watching Doug do the whole "angry reviewer" phase since everyone does it nowadays and he's just not as funny. I find that I like his reviews of films he actually enjoys more because they come from a place of sincerity and excitement, not annoyance and disappointment.
The only "angry reviewer" I watch anymore is James Rolfe. I like to think he was actually the first of the angry reviewers, at least for games, and still does other stuff like Monster Madness and Board James where he's more mellow.
This is a very nice documentary about the history of Doug and his channel. Good job. Ok, this controversy sounds bad, tho in the end I actually have nothing against Doug.
I just tell myself, who doesn’t have controversy? Even Mr. Rogers double flipped off the kids on TV (even though it wasn’t intentional or for that kind of reason 😅)
Very interesting video! I never realised how much of a disaster Demo Reel was, i just thought it wasn't very good. I'm still a fan of NC and enjoy his stuff. I like the creativity and the cast of characters. His Cats review was very good. People can complain about him still just doing reviews, but so do most CA alumni. He seems to enjoy doing them, which comes across in the videos and, if someone enjoys what they do then fair enough.
It was hard for me to forsake him and Rob, because I’ve met them a couple of times at cons and they were very courteous to me and enjoyed my cosplays, but I can’t condone the type of fandom they ended up representing in recent years.
@@DocZFlux what fandom, they seem to try and represent both sides of any “fan-conflict” like in thier 2016 ghostbusters review. But I’m not gonna be a D:@k and force my opinion so I’m gonna say “thanks for commenting” and if you met them you must live in the us ? Whereabouts I’m Irish
@@matthewrooney8834 Not recently, they’re progressively more and more in line with the gatekeeper crowd. I can’t easily forgive stuff like them stating that the only people who still like the Star Wars sequels “aren’t real fans” or them backtracking on criticizing the MCU’s handling of Black Widow, because the former series was comforting to me and the latter just aggravated my chronic battles with depression.
I feel for him. He experienced hard grief when his Mother passed away in 2016. His stress from it caused him to go bald, and the 2018 ChangeTheChannel controversy seemed like a petty disgruntled employee revolt against him even though he was the WRONG target. Doug is a very humble man and down to earth. He does NC now as his way of making a living. I wish him well.
So the #ChangetheChannel movement failed due to some folks being so obsessive that it completely lost all meaning due to drama being taken too far? Man, even the best intentions can easily become fucked up.
Basically once everybody left and well it became clear That no apology was coming... Everybody moved on. Now yes you had the piggybackers who came out of the woodwork who always wanted Channel Awesome to die and saw a chance to kill the beast but well The Simple truth is anybody who had moved on was getting their revenue from elsewhere. Essentially Channel Awesome finally reflected the truth The only ones that matter are Doug and Co... Even with Three contributors Doug dominates the site. The Damage had been done the Illusion of a community was gone. What was left of the movement got taken over by the crazies who would only be placated by seeing Doug, Rob and Michuad taken to the Guillotine
I'm in the exact same boat as you. I was a big fan of the Nostalgia Critic for years, even if I did notice a considerable decline in quality later on. Then in 2018 the Change The Channel controversy happened and I jumped off. To this day I haven't watched a single Nostalgia Critic video at all, and may never go back period.
I waited way too long to jump ship because he was courteous to me the couple of times I met him: it was the toxic fandom he seems to be willingly court now that was the final straw
Its ironic how much he hates Doug Walker only to be as bad as him, if not worse, double the irony considering he was and still kinda is a Nostalgia Critic clone.
@@Falxifer95 Is Doug a Covid conspiracy nutjob? Mr. Enter's Technocracy videos were great but then he just went right back downhill. It's people like him are why there's even an issue with a Delta Variant in the first place...
I thought he was just frustrated that some governments may not have considered the negative impact such regulations can have on people, specifically children. He does make a few fair points that many don't talk about.
@@benraven9087 I could not see much negative side effects, outside of oversimplification. He is okay on Nuclear energy but most of his stuff is almost politically and sociologically illiterate the same way a payday loan user is financially illiterate: ua-cam.com/video/T5OTYlKDF90/v-deo.html
If I may defend him a bit, he has given a few good tips on writing and some story ideas. (Doesn't excuse his politics, but I'd be lying if I didn't get anything good from him.)
I definitely have mixed feelings about Doug, Channel Awesome, and what happened to the reviewers, and although I don't agree with what happened, I still enjoy Doug's content, so I don't know how all to feel about it. With that said, I feel like "The Review Must Go On" was one of Doug's strongest pieces of content and felt the most genuine.
Doug did actually talked about the controversy with Double Toasted. While he didn't say much, he said that the site had gotten too big which resulted in the poor communications. But nowadays they're trying their best to keep things simple, under control, and enjoyable for the crew.
It got overcrowded, definitely, and showed how much of a house of cards it really was, but I’m glad he’s got a few others working with him that can see things he doesn’t.
Wow, this hit in the feels by the end. I started watching the Nostalgia Critic when I was in high school, I'm 30 now. How I was introduced was during the sleepovers I'd have with my friends during high school, my dad set it up so that I could view things on his laptop on the TV which I thought was the coolest thing at the time, watching youtube on TV? Wow! So whenever I was host, we'd take turns pulling up various videos from youtube to watch & this one friend always wanted to play Aladdin & the Cave of Cheeseburgers but we saw it enough times so she changed to playing different Nostalgia Critic videos. Watching this reminded me of everything from over the years, experiencing all of this from a fan's viewpoint in real time. I'm still friends with that group to this day, we were tight in high school, not so much now as adults but we still try our best to stay in contact & whenever we're not catching up on what's been going on in our lives, we'd talk about the Nostalgia Critic's latest episodes but it's been so long since we've talked about it because obvious reasons. Actually, the friend who introduced us all to NC is fighting cancer, sounds like she's doing a lot better but we were very scared for her. Makes anything relating to NC more heavy, when I think of a lot of his older work, I'm reminded of when that friend brought up certain videos during the sleepovers. Life sucks & it's sad that Doug Walker got trapped having to be the Nostalgia Critic but if he played a negative role in everything then maybe it's a form of hell he must endure.
It’s ironic. He’s the embodiment of the tragedy of the line “Stick to what you’re good at.” Yes, he does make a comfortable living, but he’s essentially frozen in time, trapped as the Nostalgia Critic. There’s no climbing the ranks, no eventual big break. A man who dreamed to create denied the chance to ever do so, cursed to review the works of others. A living fossil in the current era of UA-cam.
I still watch the NC despite all the controversy that went on. He's still got some decent content, he has evolved as he doesn't do one long synopsis of movies while pointing out it's flaws for comedy anymore. He still reviews movies, but does more analyzing of them rather than tearing them apart while screaming profanity at the screen.... His style nowadays is similar to what Lindsey Ellis used to do in her reviews. I do notice that he doesn't do a whole lot of skits anymore, but that may have something to do with current events. I'll admit it is refreshing to see him analyze the movies he reviews rather than nitpick them. He has improved slightly, and I hope he continues to improve his art as time goes by.
I remember the Change The Channel Movement. The Walker brothers and Mike screwed over alot of their employees and they didn't apologize. And most people defended them even though they were in the wrong.
I never really got the whole “change the channel” thing. While the drama was interesting to watch unfold I couldn’t really make myself care. Both sides had some seriously unsavory characters and call me a cynic but even as a kid the idea that Channel Awesome was just “a bunch of friends who made videos together” seemed pretty unrealistic. So when the whole CTC thing came out I was pretty unfazed and didn’t really get why people freaked out.
I still watch the Nostalgia Critic and I think he is still a millionaire for someone who started off as a janitor he made a pretty good life for himself and people of channel awesome before the implosion.
Honestly, even though I still subscribe and watch the Nostalgia Critic, I don't know what to say about all this. Nostalgia Critic, Mr. Enter, PieGuyRulz and of course, You Animat, are some of my biggest inspirations to help me write better stories for my animations and try to do some experimentations for me works. Before, I just like to do random types of animations, regardless if the stories made sense or not just for the sake of random fun. And while I still tend to lean towards randomous and comedy, I do try add in some structure to them. They may not always land the way I wanted them to be but at least I try and the results often come with varying results. I'm just wonder whether or not Animat will do a similar video to either Mr Enter or Cosmodore. Compared to those two, Doug is actually a lot nicer. His angry reviews in the past were mainly just for the sake of comedy and I'm actually glad that he doesn't always rely on negative reviews and does occasionally do something positive like his Dark Toons series. Mr. Enter use to do the same with Admirable Animations (which was one of the reasons why I subscribed to him in the first place) but later, he decided to make Soul his finale for Admiral Animations and decided to focus more on Atrocities, his Growing Around Project (either as an animation or as a graphic novel) and occasionally top 10s. Doug at the very least tries to think about not just himself but everyone else involved in Channel Awesome. Mr Enter kinda treated some of his employees badly. One of his former editors, StarGiantProductions said she was treated badly when working for Enter, especially on his Nick-o-Rama reviews. While I still have fond memories of watching Mr. Enter's older works and often revisit them, I rarely revisit his new ones because I just don't know what to say about him with his political views, his way on reviewing some animations, his treatment to some of his empolyees, etc. In fact, I often revisit Doug's new stuff more. Nevertheless, I still subscribe to Enter only to hear what stupid thing he has to say, regardless if his reviews are good or not. Do I even have to say about what happened with Cosmodore? It was bad enough when Animat at one point gave him a guest appearance in Animat's Crazy Cartoon Cast.
I feel mr enter wants to move on from his involvement with cosmodore, and he’s often mentioned Mr. Enter in his “crazy cartoon cast”. He’ll probably do an editorial on Enter, but there’s something to be said for waiting ‘til the storm clears. Not to mention there’s other things like Mr. Coat and all that came with it that he could do. Although maybe some things are best left in the past.
I grew up on Nostalgia Critic. I still remember the first video I watched of it, “Old vs New: Spider Man”. Since then, Nostalgia Critic was a major part of my life. Even though I was born in 2001, I grew up watching mostly kids movies from the 80s and 90s, so seeing his reviews still helped me feel nostalgic. I watched his videos every Wednesday. I wanted so badly to visit the office that the videos were shot in. Many of the review channels that I watch and are subscribed to were originally recommended to me because of how much I watched his videos. I remember how giddy I was when he mentioned My Little Pony (my favorite show at the time) in one of his videos (the one about how good kids cartoons are nowadays). My standards for what make good movies were largely thanks to his reviews, and my interest in filmmaking at least partially is thanks to his videos. Learning about what all he did just filled me with so much dread. Also, with your comment about Mr Enter, there was a time I would’ve defended him, but I can’t in good conscience. His videos about politics are so heavily misinformed, and it’s clear that he doesn’t understand politics at all.
In my opinion I don't think it's just the Nostalgia Critic that's not the same anymore, it's also the internet itself. The internet has become a much different place since the first Nostalgia Critic videos were ever made. His style of reviews just don't hold up like what they use to in this modern era of the internet. Even people like James Rolfe (A.K.A The Angry Video Game Nerd) have tried newer styles of reviewing to fit in with what most of the modern reviewers are doing.
I'm actually kind of amazed that so many of the better known Channel Awesome contributors are still going & that there are still more people getting into the same sort of video reviews. I would do it myself, if I had the energy to deal with UA-cam. That being said, at this point, there isn't a lot left to be said which hasn't already been said about most movies people have heard of. And I'd need to invest in, at least, a much better capture card.
I remember that back in 2015, his Jurassic World review already pissed off a large number of people, do to giving idiotic critizisms that are blatantly false, and overall just being obnoxious. That was the first time I Saw a large number of people not liking the Nostalgia Critic
@Mr. Kaiju It was awful. First of all, I didn't understand why Doug would review the film when it's in cinemas and do a low grade reenactment of the film.
I've been watching NC since about 2015 when i was like 12. And honestly doug has greatly shaped and inspired me, as stupid as that sounds. Even after all these years i keep coming back to his videos every single week even though growing up has made me realise some of his reviews and decicions really do suck. it's a strange mix of genuine and ironic enjoyment but even after all these years i still consider myself a Nostalgia Critic fan.
This was not quite fair take on Cinematic Venom. But aside from that, the video was better than I expected. Mat has finally acknowledged that Change the Channel movement isn't "going strong" - it collapsed in infighting long ago and lost its impact way before that, because people took it as just another recent trend and moved on after two weeks to never give it a thought again. I guess Mat really does do an extensive research for each of his documentaries. Great, that gives his channel a bigger long-term value. All this is and will be a sad story though...
Yeah, he’s quite informative that way. The story itself is kinda sad. But it makes me wonder… who do you refer to with “Cinematic Venom”, and why do you think it’s not a fair take on them?
AniMat is the greatest person for reviews of all kids movies and cartoons both good and bad you're an awesome guy mat and im not joking keep up the good work my friend :3
I’ve heard about the situation of Channel Awesome but I didn’t get the full story. Watching this video made it easy to understand the full story and situation of Channel Awesome.
@@Zakaria3400 John at least was about promoting cheerful media with positive messages instead of dividing people. I can better enjoy cheerful media made by a bad person than a so-called good person rejecting cheerful media.
The Not So Awesome document kind of reminds me of the Disney War book by James B Stewart. Like the document, it reveals a history of Michael Eisner's leadership and how it went down in flames in the early and mid-2000s and revealing the dark truth of the management of the Disney Company from Michael Eisner's leadership, to Jeffery Katzenberg being in charge of Disney Animation, to Roy E Disney resigning the company in late 2003, and Roy calling out Eisner for destroying the company in the 2000s. The book shattered the reputation of the Walt Disney Company even further.
Lindsay Ellis has always been funnier and a much better critic than Doug Walker could ever hope to be, and now an acclaimed author. I heavily disagree with her politically when it comes to racism, feminism, etc, but she's honestly the best critic on the internet by her analysis talents alone. She graduated from 2 of the best film schools in the world. That should give you an understanding on why she's so damn good.
@F. N. Lorter I don't care about Lindsey. Nothing personal. And unlike Doug, she apologize when she got herself into controversy. Prefers you're right about her being better.
@@alienboy1322 Didn't she kinda cancel herself by deleting her Twitter to get away from backlash? Also, she has some takes that are so bad that It makes me feel that Doug might have corrupted her in some way.
@@disneyfan8719 Her takes on Raya and Soul were bad, and it gotten so much backlash, she deleted her Twitter. She did reactivate and offer an apology on her UA-cam. And that, Mr. Walker, is how you be an adult and own up to your faults.
@@disneyfan8719 Ellis is Doug's Ex. They were romantically involved the first 3 years of CA, she often wouldn't upload content for weeks on in, often breaching her contract intentionally middle fingering Mike Michaud. Ellis and Doug would often see each other whenever she was in Chicago. They split in Early 2011 because Michaud kept complaining about her and was TERRIFIED of Fraternization. Ellis and Walker STILL Remained friends, and Lindsay STAYED with Channel Awesome ALL the Way until March 2015 leaving on HER own terms. Keep it mind, Lupa and her Lackey's didn't leave CA until Blip TV shut down in August of 2014. They were ALL let go from their contracts and fired by Michaud. Corrupted? You really think Doug is some Devil or Sexual Deviant? That's Ridiculous. Lindsay and Doug had a CONSENSUAL Romantic and Sexual Relationship from 2008-2011. Lindsay deleted her twitter because she does NOT want to be associated or involved with this or CTC. She generally views them as Toxic little Hitlers. She only addressed Grievances in the Document, and has NEVER commented PUBLICLY on that matter NOR has she ever commented on CTC itself. Ellis is NOT a Fan of Cancel Culture. Lindsay is also STILL Friends with the Walkers and STILL talks to Brad Jones and his Family. She flew to Chicago in September 2016 to console Doug and attend his Mother's Funeral.
Usually I would watch the nostalgia critic if he does an editorial (like 2d vs 3D animation), reviews something bad, or reviews something that I’m familiar with or have seen before.
Funny enough I've been watching Animat for about 10 years now, even longer than Nostalgia Critic! I think something you and Doug have in common (in a good way) y'all are both great at writing video essays! I feel like I've learned so much from both of you! (Despite Channel Awesome's fall from grace)
This was a masterfully edited and scripted video. Succinct without leaving out any critical information, objective enough to avoid the bias for/against specific critics usually present in people's responses to Doug's work, and touched upon Mr. Enter, the other major disappoint in the animation critique community.
I didn't follow Nostalgia Critic videos until more recent years. I would just watch a few here and there when I wanted some laughs. I wasn't around for all the changes and controversy. It seems to me that most people have moved on one way or the other. Since I'm not a part of the that community, I don't have strong feelings about it. I respect that Doug's an adult and should be treated the way I'd want to be treated if I were in his situation. I look at Doug and his family/cohorts as seemingly nice, talented people. I still watch Nostalgia Critic every week. I've seen a good chunk of his body of work. He's a real movie buff and knows some stuff about film. Sometimes I learn something about film from his reviews of recent years. Sometimes the humor is hit or miss. I can tell when he's having a good week and when he's struggling to find those knee slappers. I disagree with the video's conclusion that Doug's situation is kind of a sad one. He's still making content and seems content and grateful to be doing it. As for losing influence, that comes and goes with the times. Times have changed, Doug's evolved and Nostalgia Critic still pulls in a crowd on UA-cam with its billions of videos. That's no small feat.
I started following him I think in 2020 when I came across his GI Joe Movie review and I just watch his videos and more recently Disneycember but I do feel he has somewhat changed since the upload of this video. For one he now reviewing more mainstream stuff like Diary Of A Wimpy Kid and Spiderman No Way Home. He also gives positives about the films which was lacking in his older reviews which I have watched some of them.
@David Foerster i really wanna meet him considering i also live in Illinois im just waiting for him and rob to randomly show up at my job to get food while driving somewhere for a con or whatever 😆. It may never happen but i can dream lol
@David Foerster First of, Animatt is way better at reviewing animated movies good or bad, Doug on the other hand is not really that good and intelligent to research the film deeply (hints: Lion King 1994 and there was nothing wrong with Hakuna Matata and I never like him when I first watched him review Space Jam) and he repeats what he already talked about before. The AVGN is way better than him and that guy I can laugh too much at, more then that narcissist Nostaglia Critic who abused his workers and staffs.
@@LoudHouseCritic2018 I’m not one to agree with his opinion on Temple of Doom, but I am on the same level as him when it comes to Hakuna Matata. Sure opinions are like a-holes, but at least someone shares the same one as I do. Okay, that just came out wrong….
I know Doug isn't what he used to be, but I'd say he still has a lot of potential. His Dark Toons series has a lot of educational and artistic value to it, and I'd say his reviews have improved a bit from the Wall travesty (at least from what I can tell).
Internet. Not being a prick, only the internet believes that people should be bashed and hated no matter what...until it's something they love or even themselves, then they will acknowledge that having that behaviour is dumb
I think it was cause of AVGN. Let's keep in mind that James Rolfe's character has been around since the mid-2000s. He became a role model for some on how to do reviews at the time. However i think the problem is that people forgot to realize that AVGN was a character played by a guy that had passion for monster movies. AVGN's whole persona is meant to be a satirical view on taking the flaws in video games seriously, but some people have viewed it as a real way to review things. That's why reviews from the 2010s in some cases are seen as someone trying to imitate that review style.
Please make an AVGN video please. Your channel and this video is awesome. Damm what makes this more sad is the Doug doesn't see anything other life as an option. I guess the bitter sweet side of it all, is that he was never destined to be a big filmmaker as he thought he would. I not saying he doesn't have the talent, but Doug really needs some skills of modern filmmaking to make it big again.
23:30 yeah, I heard about the would be 10th anniversary special on a podcast. I think the idea was later used by Linkara to make A Voice from The Dark audio drama.
Both Doug and James are great in their own ways and I still love both of them. I still love the Nostalgia Critic and it makes me sad how many people hate him now just because of his current videos being different with the skits and the #ChangetheChannel controversy. I still think his current reviews are great and really enjoyable. I appreciate you for making this video, Mat and not being one of those kinds of people who "expose" him or make videos on why he's terrible. I personally think you should watch some of his recent videos. You'll probably like them. Totally up to you. Just a suggestion. Once again, Great video!
I actually have a crazy story how I actually discovered Doug’s channel, but it wasn’t that I stumbled upon one of his videos or when I was watching AVGN but when I was watching The Angry Joe Show and I saw him in a thumbnail with Doug for Man of Steel back in either 2014 or 2015 Then I kinda felt something serious and bad was going on behind the scenes of Channel Awesome after I saw a recent video about Justin Carmichael (JewWario). Now not only I felt bad for the other creators of the sight and also the community, but also Doug. If him saying he was forced into silence was true, then you can’t help but wonder how is Channel Awesome going to continue as a community under these circumstances
I used to watch som nostalgia critic back around 2014 with his foodfight review, but I still watch some of his content today, but they are not as good as they used to be since it feels a little more corporate this time due to the UA-cam sponsors. I feel very sorry for the channel awesome staff that were mistreated and harassed. The former staff hopefully would improve their videos into becoming big. Also one thing to mention, after the controversy he would be made fun of, and it got even more big thanks to Chris O’Neal Aka OneyNG.
animat, i quite enjoy doug's reviews not only the ones he does currently, but also when you look at the ones from previous seasons of nostalgia critic there was one review in particular that he did that had to do with anthologies of looney tunes films between the late 70s and all through the 80s which these facts should have been covered in their own seperate videos as companions to the videos about the looney tunes animation lookback i pointed out that the first film before bugs bunny road runner movie, was Bugs bunny superstar in 1975, which had been narrated by Orson welles, and in between Nine seperate cartoons, it had a bunch of interesting documentary sections about the animators and directors and that people should acknowledge that film when re-reviewing the other looney tunes films
Honestly, I still enjoy watching older Nostalgia Critic videos from time to time and still find the nostalgic commercials episodes funny. Also, while his "The Wall" review itself has become infamous I actually really like Sam Fennah's contribution to it, specifically the "The Trial" portion. I've become a fan of Fennah's Satellite City/August Few creatures and videos and am glad that review didn't seem to have negatively affected him. I appreciate your video here about the Nostalgia Critic and not being harsh like others.
Bruce Springsteen once said "You know the old saying: trust the art, not the artist. I think that's true. I think somebody can do real good work and be a fool in a variety of ways."
My favorite genre of UA-camrs is reviewers who were obviously inspired by Doug Walker but found their own niche over time and now make better content than Doug ever did - this includes Dominic Noble, Felix Nordh and yes - you too, Mat!
Oh I remember the Nostalgia Critic, I loved his many reviews and such, but I will admit he did start to become subpar beginning in 2018 with only a few good exceptions. I honestly never got involved in the whole “Change The Channel” movement because controversy and especially Cancel Culture is just plain awful, but I still love the old vids up to 2017.
I wasn’t very online during the whole controversy that you describe, so it’s no surprise that I never took notice of it. I certainly don’t agree with every single thing he says or find humor in every single joke that they use, but I still keep up with the videos and am actually more a fan of his recent work than the older stuff. I think the more recent videos have a more refined style and actually have more to say about the movies themselves, rather than just shouting angry stuff.
I still watch Critic I understand the controversy is bad but it seems like he’s been trying to be better. I know his Christmas videos are always heartwarming and he cares about his family and friends Maybe Channel Awesome just got too big to handle
Wow, i never knew about the full Nostalgia Critic history, I heard a few times about the Change the Channel thing (and i still watch some new videos of nostalgia critic, but only ones with Doug), but man thats an informative video
Sure, Doug's career as The Nostalgia Critic might've had afew ups and downs after the whole "Change the Channel" thing, but he still manage to try making us laugh and still doing a lot of Movie and TV Show reviews to this day. But sometimes I can still get why Animat did an entire video about Nostalgia Critic.
Something tells me you've been watching Down the Rabbit Hole as you're using lots of fades to black, like the Bunny Boy himself with his video. Other than that, great video, Mat. It's crazy how Channel Awesome went from high at the top and now, they're in the basement and it seems like their stuck there for a long time.
I remember when I first saw do a review on the Disney afternoon cartoons and after seeing him I liked him. Ever since that video I continued to watch him up to this day. Even though Doug is not perfect, I do respect this guys passion and energy. He was also one of those people that influenced me to love and appreciate animation and know that film is powerful, I agree, some of his reviews are dated and boring. But he is funny in a sense of how he reviews bad films.
It really is a shame this had to happen. I've never been a huge fan of the Nostalgia Critic, per se, but I have always respected him as a content creator and enjoyed his videos a good deal. When I heard Channel Awesome went south, I wasn't entirely ready to believe it. I stayed subbed for a few more years, unknowing exactly what happened, even as I noticed that his reviews have slowly been declining in quality. ...Then I see this video. It really is tragic. A simple reviewer would eventually go on to make a great impact... And then bring it all down. Is he the scum of the Earth? No; I don't think so, at least. But he is a dark reminder that one thing can spoil all that you have going for you.
You know, after this video, I will never stop watching Nostalgia Critic. I legit feel bad for Doug Walker. I want to support him as long as it is possible for me. His whole life is a never ending tragedy.
The death of his Mother Sandra Walker in September 2016 is one nobody saw coming. You could tell he was in personal grief by it, he went bald just a while after.
I too feel sorry for the Nostalgia Critic. Here was a man who was wildly successful in the early stages of his career, and when he simply tried to take what he thought would be the next logical step in his creative career, he was mercilessly crushed by reality, leaving him unable to become anything more than the Nostalgia Critic.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. TeamFourStar was doing great until they started doing reviews, gaming, lets plays, etc then stopped doing DBZA as a result. If you have a talent for doing something effing do it…
As someone who still watches the Nostalgia Critic (and even then, I'm starting to get sick of his reviews too), this overview of Doug Walker and his website is very well articulated. It's primarily factual with only minor instances of subjective criticism from Mat here. Also, I have to appreciate him keeping the video as short as he did, it could not have been easy. But he pulled it off.
Hey how do you feel whwn reviwers review each other as imagine if Doug reveiwed PieGuy for example
@@nicholassims9837 I'm not sure how I feel, to be honest. I am certain that if tried it, I would completely botch it.
I watched him until this year, the dickishness of both him bashing Dark Knight Rises for the bajillionth time (sorry, that was the last film to get Batman’s heroic nature right) and The Star Wars sequels as “bad fan fiction” in his Batman vs. the Ninja Turtles review really angered me, because I have little tolerance for gatekeeping fanboys, and that showed how willing his is to cater to toxic fandoms.
@@DocZFlux To give him some credit, calling the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy "bad fan fiction" is putting it friendly
@@MrWill9002 No, describing it as fan-fiction just placates assholes like Lucas and the gullible fanboys who easily forget that he never gave a shit about them and let themselves be used by him!
I still watch his content to this very day. They're not as impactful as his past videos, but they do have moments of brilliance.
-In his _Cat in the Hat_ review, he says Dr. Seuss' stories, *"...are not just simple kids' books. They're stories that we continue to read, even today. They're stories that we remember years later, while other stories fade from our memories, and for good reason. They're stories that helped shaped our childhoods. With well thought out writing, imaginative drawings, and endearing morals...Good art doesn't come from focus groups or statistics. Good art comes from those who want to share with one another in their own unique way."*
-In his _Lorax_ review, he talks about how *"...the popular way isn't always the lasting way."* , and why you should *"...always pick 'good' over 'popular'. Because once people grow out of it, and move on to the next 'popular thing', there's no other substance to bring them back. And the 'timeless' message, that you claim to fight so hard for, becomes just another passing trend to forget about."*
-And in his _Ghostbusters 2016_ review, he accurately satirizes both sides of the fandom, and makes a bold statement by saying , *"You can still believe in equal rights, and think this movie sucks; you can still be a fan of the original **_Ghostbusters_** , and think this one is great. By God, you can have such a wide variety that you might even consider yourself to be A UNIQUE HUMAN BEING!"*
I do wish him all the best despite what happened.
Whilst I only really watch him once in a while (mostly out of nostalgia ironically enough) I must admit those moments did make me smile. It shows that Doug does some have some modicum of passion and knowledge. Either that or it’s evidence of “a broken clock is still right twice a day.” Either way, I think Doug has that potential of being a good critic and give a good argument for his views. Whether or not he succeeds is entirely up to the viewer. I’m just saying. I’m glad I still have those memories of being a fan when I was younger.
I just hope he learns his lesson and actually improves himself.
(He probably won't, but I have a microscopic bit of hope in him.)
@@someonerandom8552
I'm glad I saw his work back in the day, but I need to make sure I keep in check what I take out of it.
The Ghostbusters quote speaks out more to me because this is what everyone, especially fandoms now, needs to hear
@@phillyphildude96 Agreed whitch is why that's my favorite reveiw of his.🐻
What a rad take. Thanks for bringing up Mr. Enter too I can't put it better myself.
The thing is, I've actually taken inspiration from Mr. Enter, writing-wise.
While I've avoided the videos he made of mask wearing and PSA's, why do I feel like I listened to the wrong person?
@@ryancarson6962 seemed a bit of a tangent
@@ryancarson6962 Pretty much.
@@daelen.cclark honestly, you can cherry pick anyone's political opinions and call them a bad person. They really should be taken with a grain of salt in the context of critiquing a reviewer.
@Luke Hayes
Even ignoring the politics, Mr. Enter is just a poor reviewer. In the majority of his videos, his criticisms boil down to taking the target out of context and generally not doing enough research, resulting in a lot of misinformation being delivered to the viewer. In addition, he rambles on for too long about a subject or two here and there, and the amount of repetition is unbearable.
Even in his reviews, he'll go on political tangents more frequently than necessary. Not only does it serve little to no purpose within the reviews, it also makes them come off as unfocused. In short, his content is disjointed at best, and unsalvageable at worst. D Minus.
If AVGN and Nostalgia Critic turned out to be brothers, I'd believe it
They are amazing character to laugh and enjoy watching their videos alot even their epic battle crossover.
I stopped really liking him when he made an ass of himself about Ghostbusters (that at least WAS a Ghostbusters film and not a glorified Stranger Things ripoff).
That said, I’ll at least give him credit that he respected that it’s not a terrible thing to have a Star Wars trilogy for the youth of today, that’s WAY more than I can say about Doug!
I see you everywhere, from CBS 46 to it's a southern thing.
Well Doug does have a brother named Rob
Lol I always thought their were cousins or close friends.
it’s sad whenever I see Doug all I can do is just become sad because of once what was and how much I used to respect him, Only a reminder now of failure and disappointment on so many levels
I personally don't see how he's a failure. Yea sure he's not as successful but he made a career for himself and at one point was a decent reviewer. Just like everything life changes
@@ChrisControversial His content and criticism aren’t as good as they used to be hence reviews like the wall and his content is stagnant and just awful and dull to watch. he’s still getting by but honestly there’s no reason for him to keep on reviewing.
He also used to be less of an asshole fanboy and more supportive of progressive media, his pivot away from that to a “lol, everyone sucks” mentality is why I stopped watching him.
He has his moments unfortunately nowadays but he isn't a evil or horrible person tho.
Ditto, man. And yet, I have to feel a little sorry for him. Despite everything, he wasn't some criminal mastermind; just a relatively normal guy who wanted to be as good with comedy as any classic Looney Tunes short. Back in his prime, he was a champion of that format; but today, he's both a hack and a laughingstock.
Personally, I pin much of this on Doug and Rob being influenced by those like Michaud, Antwiler and that one guy whose handle was JewWario.
Yeah, the latter may not have been mentioned in this retrospective look into Doug's past, but he and Antwiler weren't angels either. From what I gathered, they were part of that sexual harassments charge.
One of the few good things to come out of it was that many of his former partners did get bigger and better without being so misguided. Lovhaug in particular has lately been on a roll, even getting a movie of his own that ain't half bad.
First PhantomStrider collabed with Nostalgia Critic and now Animat talked about Nostalgia Critic
Deja Vu!
PS has collaborated w/ NC two times before his most recent one (making it three total), including his
"Top 10 Creepiest Animated Movies" AND
"Top 10 Worst Movies of all Time" videos.
@@SmangItDrums Huh,didn’t see that.
I thought I was the only one who noticed that!!!
I just watched that
@@SmangItDrums I don’t know if Josh and Doug are still friends
Edit: never mind, I just saw the new video, that’s a pretty good indication they’re still friends
Well done. I still like Doug and the Nostalgia Critic but yeah some of the backlash I can understand and trust me as a long-time fan of the series, I know his strengths and weaknesses and when it came to the #changethechannel era and the "review" that was The Wall, it goes to show that the Nostalgia Critic must remember it so we don't have to.
Did made Guru Larry way more famous
Your comment was also well done imo.
You took the words out of my mouth.
@@YakkoWarnerTower Thanks.
It rubs me the wrong way though that the CTC incident was swept over after a year.
Doug Walker's vlogs for Avatar, Adventure Time, and other shows and films served as the model for my Powerpuff Girls and Hey Arnold! Vlogs. I enjoyed making them and getting to these shows for the first time.
I can see why he doesn't do them though as they are rather time-consuming.
🙂
Honestly, that was one of the main reasons I stuck by the dude for so long. You can tell that he wants to be open to the changes in the world of entertainment, and that includes animation. So it's cool to see him check out cartoons that were after his time. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that his "Are Kid Shows Better Now Than Ever" video was one of many to stop being so closed minded about animation, and start appreciating the shows we have now. And he's still doing it! He created a series about looking at dark episodes of cartoons including shows he didn't grow up with like Courage the Cowardly Dog. He's doing TV shows for Disneycember now (and I can't tell you how happy I was about him loving Phineas and Ferb). And he even had a video dedicated to Toonami where he has his younger colleagues do a retrospective on the shows THEY grew up with, even poking fun at his misguided Sailor Moon review:
NC: I already reviewed this!
Heather: Yeah, but I can review it correctly!
Not to mention his Duckman review where he talks about how it gave birth to some of our favorite adult cartoons today.
@@kylemorello4787 In that video, he only mentioned the Looney Tunes shorts and the animated shows from the 80's and 90's he grew up with like Animaniacs, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the Batman animated series from 1992 and Transformers compared to Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Gravity Falls. I'm shocked he never mentioned Hanna-Barbera in that video because that was the company that made actual classic animated tv shows before since Looney Tunes was just a series of short animated movies known as the Warner Bros. Cartoons because they/we didn't have television yet until the 50's. Classic animated shows they made like The Flintstones, Yogi Bear, Scooby-Doo and The Jetsons. I would know he wasn't a Hanna-Barbera fan and called their cartoons boring and cheap which is not even true. They are simple and straightforward and let's not forget Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera who owned the studio made Tom and Jerry already for MGM before shutting down the cartoon studio in the 50's. As someone like Doug who loves Tom and Jerry, this is coming out as harsh since he grew up in the 80's and 90's and wasn't a Cartoon Network kid. They made Tom and Jerry first and it was for a major Hollywood studio with big money. He would know Hanna-Barbera's shows made it huge. Same with Fat Albert and Rocky and Bullwinkle before Animaniacs, TMNT and Ren and Stimpy. He bashed the live-action movie of The Flintstones and even bashed the tv show itself the movie was based on while reviewing it. Well Doug u love The Simpsons more so that's why u hated it. U weren't even a Cartoon Network kid like me so if u don't like it, leave now. Also him mentioning cartoons based on a toyline made to sell more toys. Seriously Doug? Ninja Turtles is what u love and that show was selling toys too. Even though Ninja Turtles started out as a freaking comic book in 1984, not a toyline.
@@kylemorello4787 Has he decided to talk about The Owl House yet? Let's hope not. I like that show but really.
@@kylemorello4787 He was in college when Courage came around. I watched Courage when I was a kid. I can review it better than him. And he reviewed The Powerpuff Girls movie and compared the show 2 Ren and Stimpy when it is not. It felt like Rocky and Bullwinkle and Hanna-Barbera just like Dexter's Lab and both shows were Hanna-Barbera already.
id like to argue Doug doesnt do much of the whole Yelling and screaming at the camera shit like he use to back in the day.
It shows that he has evolved. He's not exactly doing the same content he did way back in the day. He's a lot more informative and even pokes fun at more movies he legit likes or at least finds them good.
Personally, I'm glad that I still watch his videos despite some of the hiccups he had along the way. As for the "Change the Channel" stuff, I found much of the accusations to be hypocritical considering some of the shady and/or disingenuous things some of the accusers have done, themselves. I do not wish to dwell on that any further, however.
Better, but still not great
@@ForrestFox626 Damn right
@@SapphireDragonDX same. This year has been his best imo. No more vids that feature him yelling or doing bad skits and humor. Now it feels more intelligent, laid back and not as trolly
@@SapphireDragonDX Well he did protected a sexual predator u know. And that's why I'm not watching his stuff anymore because of that.
As I’m still a fan of the Nostalgia Critic, I found this video to be informative of what a internet celebrity can go through during their careers with their ups and downs.
He’s way better than Fred
@@vahidhosoda6614 You mean Fred Figglehorn?
@@Dtown1202 yes
@@vahidhosoda6614 True, Nostalgia Critic is better than Fred.
Well, truth be told, the Nostalgia Critic's videos left a very helpful impact on me. His videos helped teach me about what makes a story good and what makes a story bad. He taught me how to make a story and how not to make a story. He even taught me about how to criticize my story writing as well through his Nostalgia Critic videos. Doug Walker helped me become a fantasy novelist and I've even got 2 of 5 of my fantasy novels published and the second book of my series even got a 4/4 star review from a professional book reviewer. Currently, I'm working on Book 4 of 5, while I'm still waiting for Book 3 to get professionally edited before I publish it (it may take a while still though). My fantasy novels are about a girl with autism that gets kidnapped into a magical fantasy dimension where she becomes the heroine of the foreign world in order for her to be let back into her universe again. The first book is titled 'Reflection: The Uishanole' and the second one is called 'Reflection: The Vinston Scepter'. My goal is to have my fantasy novels turned into the greatest animated Disney movies ever (preferably in traditional 2D hand-drawn animation). Also, if these get made into Disney movies, then the main character named Phoebe, the girl with autism, will be the very first Disney princess with autism and her nationality is Canada. The books can be purchased as Kindle books or Paperback books on Amazon. Here's the link to my website, in case any of you want to see the book reviews and read more information about The Reflection Series: jtldimension.weebly.com/
Oh my God, your story sounds amazing! As an autistic women, I’m always excited for more representation about my kind. My brain is swimming with stories and goals too.
Nice. Doug's given me inspiration on what I could do as well. Although I take more influence from people like Linkara and Tony Goldmark out of better trust and more credibility (Even inspired me to write my own comic script).
I hope you do great with whatever you do.
@@daelen.cclark Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I hope you do great with your comic script.
@@jordan1650
Thanks. 😁
@@daelen.cclark You're welcome! By the way, the third Reflection book is officially published now.
Wow I never expected AniMat to make a detailed history video on the works of Doug Walker, but I’m not angry or upset… I’m over the moon! 😜🤩
animat, i watched your stuff all the time growing up, as well as doug’s. i was obsessed with your content, as well as his content, for a good period of time while i was in late elementary school and throughout middle school because i’ve always had a particular passion for film and film criticism.
years have passed, and i’m 17 now - almost 18. i’m planning to minor in film and i write reviews often, and i hope to expand more with film as a whole. doug’s legacy took a heavy toll on me - while i hadn’t watched the nostalgia critic in years, it was absolutely shattering to see someone i grew up with become something of a modern, internet greek tragedy.
but, as for you, i need to thank you for how much your work has inspired me ever since i was a kid. this was the first video of your’s that i’ve seen in YEARS, and i couldn’t help but have the biggest smile on my face, mainly because i realized that you’ve just always been great. your content is just phenomenal, and it’s nice to see that you’re still making amazing videos - and i’m really excited to tune into more in the future.
you’re definitely one of the inspirations and motivators as to why i’ve always been so passionate about pursuing film, and - once more - thank you for everything. :)
A critic reviewing a critic😮
That, in a true sense, is irony
Critiception
Lol ironically that's a possibility of crossover or collab.
Is like saying fight fire with fire
"The CTC movement ended up imploding itself due to some obsessive people letting the drama go off the rails"
Yep, that is true, looking at you MissAnthroPony... ugh
Who here is betting he'll show up to harass the defenders
Screw that guy in general.
@@Shades14 Hey, don't throw MAP under the bus here. If anything, he's one of the only sane people in this movement and won't stand for Channel Awesome's BULLSHIT.
@@ty-seansenior6660
Agreed.
Movements are best when people don’t go obsessive.
@@daelen.cclark Who said MAP was one of the obsessive ones?
His Dark Toons segments are pretty fun as he goes into the nuts and bolts of animation and how it works
@marius kristensen Me too.
wow
Doug will only be worthy in our eyes when he finally reviews The Interview and Team America
Indeed Supreme Leader
Agreed man Doug isn't a perfect dude but at least their is times were the man has a heart.
Don’t give him ideas.
You’ll be disappointed.
@@YakkoWarnerTower No
@@4thtime910 Lol yes... 😂💀
Reviewing content based on anger just doesn't sell anymore, it used to when the videos had to be short and there wasn't much of an audience, but times have changed and Doug Walker absolutely knows that, the Demo Reel and the reviews past that were his attempts to spice up this dying genre in a way where it could also be his outlet for creativity, problem is Doug didn't internalize any film-making techniques and he can't write outside of a Yakko Warner/Groucho Marx-type of character in a equally wacky world, the former crew moved on, Doug was left behind.
True. In the early days of UA-cam in the late 00s, the videos were mostly done by amateurs, and since internet entertainment was still a rather new thing in general, people were more easily entertained by it. So back then you could be successful with video that were cheaply produced and simple, but had good content. But times have changed, and today, a whole professional industry has become of what once started as small amateur productions, and many UA-cam series have budgets that aren't much below the budgets of better TV shows, and it shows in increasingly good production values. But Doug has so much failed at making his shows look more professional, the green screen effects in his videos still look cheap and lazy and haven't evolved since around 2009.
The thing is, while you can say something similar with James rolfe, he's still doing very well doing that.
I half agree, half disagree, well, actually I agree, but with a big exception. Generally I completely agree because I believe that even a bad movie deserves respect for the people that made it, specially when there's effort and passion behind it, and being "bad" is just lack of experience by the filmmakers or just taste of the reviewer. I've seen some UA-camrs that are dead serious with their hate and contempt for the movies, to the point that they are annoying, rude and whenever they say "this sucks" it can't be taken seriously. Some of them are Your Movie Sucks, I Hate Everything, Krystoff Raczinski and to a lesser degree, Schaffrillas Productions.
However I've never found Doug to be on that league, since he's a comedian, and as that I never felt that his jokes on the films are to be taken seriously. He makes fun even of his favorite movies and I think that's very valid. At the end of every NC, he tells a summary where I think the real review stands in, which he's usually a more tame and objective, no matter how "angry" he seemed in the review. In other of his shows like DIsnyecember, he is not in character and thus you can see a more serious reviewer. I think that's the main reason between those I mentioned and DW.
And the same applies to Cinema Sins, as I've never felt they're even real reviewers, they just purposely nitpick movies for jokes, but if they say "Action hero defies gravity *DING*" I mean, that's just a joke on movie magic ilogic, but doesn't mean they think the movie is bad just for tiny things like that, and yet, there's always someone in the comments taking those seriously.
I've sort of grown tired of watching Doug do the whole "angry reviewer" phase since everyone does it nowadays and he's just not as funny. I find that I like his reviews of films he actually enjoys more because they come from a place of sincerity and excitement, not annoyance and disappointment.
The only "angry reviewer" I watch anymore is James Rolfe. I like to think he was actually the first of the angry reviewers, at least for games, and still does other stuff like Monster Madness and Board James where he's more mellow.
This is a very nice documentary about the history of Doug and his channel. Good job. Ok, this controversy sounds bad, tho in the end I actually have nothing against Doug.
I just tell myself, who doesn’t have controversy? Even Mr. Rogers double flipped off the kids on TV (even though it wasn’t intentional or for that kind of reason 😅)
@@sketchygetchey8299 Source?
@@sketchygetchey8299
I feel like there’s a huge difference between Doug and what mr Rodgers did context-wise.
@@daelen.cclark Sure, the way he showed the middle finger was fine back when it aired, but now……you can’t get away with it anymore.
Very interesting video! I never realised how much of a disaster Demo Reel was, i just thought it wasn't very good.
I'm still a fan of NC and enjoy his stuff. I like the creativity and the cast of characters. His Cats review was very good.
People can complain about him still just doing reviews, but so do most CA alumni. He seems to enjoy doing them, which comes across in the videos and, if someone enjoys what they do then fair enough.
Doug Walker got me through my depression and helped me evolve my sense of humour. One day I want to tell him in person and thank him….
@Matthew Rooney
That's great, man.
I personally don't want to meet Doug Walker for as long as I live.
It was hard for me to forsake him and Rob, because I’ve met them a couple of times at cons and they were very courteous to me and enjoyed my cosplays, but I can’t condone the type of fandom they ended up representing in recent years.
@@DocZFlux what fandom, they seem to try and represent both sides of any “fan-conflict” like in thier 2016 ghostbusters review. But I’m not gonna be a D:@k and force my opinion so I’m gonna say “thanks for commenting” and if you met them you must live in the us ? Whereabouts I’m Irish
@@matthewrooney8834 Not recently, they’re progressively more and more in line with the gatekeeper crowd.
I can’t easily forgive stuff like them stating that the only people who still like the Star Wars sequels “aren’t real fans” or them backtracking on criticizing the MCU’s handling of Black Widow, because the former series was comforting to me and the latter just aggravated my chronic battles with depression.
I feel for him. He experienced hard grief when his Mother passed away in 2016. His stress from it caused him to go bald, and the 2018 ChangeTheChannel controversy seemed like a petty disgruntled employee revolt against him even though he was the WRONG target. Doug is a very humble man and down to earth. He does NC now as his way of making a living. I wish him well.
So the #ChangetheChannel movement failed due to some folks being so obsessive that it completely lost all meaning due to drama being taken too far? Man, even the best intentions can easily become fucked up.
And the only person I could think of that took it as a personal advantage is Misanthro Pony
@@phillyphildude96 although he eventually stopped doing channel awesome videos
Basically once everybody left and well it became clear That no apology was coming... Everybody moved on. Now yes you had the piggybackers who came out of the woodwork who always wanted Channel Awesome to die and saw a chance to kill the beast but well The Simple truth is anybody who had moved on was getting their revenue from elsewhere. Essentially Channel Awesome finally reflected the truth The only ones that matter are Doug and Co... Even with Three contributors Doug dominates the site.
The Damage had been done the Illusion of a community was gone. What was left of the movement got taken over by the crazies who would only be placated by seeing Doug, Rob and Michuad taken to the Guillotine
I'm in the exact same boat as you. I was a big fan of the Nostalgia Critic for years, even if I did notice a considerable decline in quality later on. Then in 2018 the Change The Channel controversy happened and I jumped off. To this day I haven't watched a single Nostalgia Critic video at all, and may never go back period.
Well, your loss.
It’s been a while since I watched his videos
@@Tornado1994 idk his content is complete trash for children
I waited way too long to jump ship because he was courteous to me the couple of times I met him: it was the toxic fandom he seems to be willingly court now that was the final straw
Now that I know more about the controversy and am not entertained with his most recent videos, I might finally stop watching him.
When you mentioned Mr Enter, I actually had to remind myself who he was.
Its ironic how much he hates Doug Walker only to be as bad as him, if not worse, double the irony considering he was and still kinda is a Nostalgia Critic clone.
@@Falxifer95 Is Doug a Covid conspiracy nutjob? Mr. Enter's Technocracy videos were great but then he just went right back downhill. It's people like him are why there's even an issue with a Delta Variant in the first place...
The heck’s going on with him now
@@3Guys1Video I have no idea myself, I stopped paying attention to him with the whole Covid controversy.
@@mattwo7 I haven’t payed attention to him since 2018 I believe
Mr. Enter's PSA video made me realize how politically, sociologically, and medically illiterate he is. His arguments on masks are just assertions.
I thought he was just frustrated that some governments may not have considered the negative impact such regulations can have on people, specifically children. He does make a few fair points that many don't talk about.
@@benraven9087 I could not see much negative side effects, outside of oversimplification. He is okay on Nuclear energy but most of his stuff is almost politically and sociologically illiterate the same way a payday loan user is financially illiterate: ua-cam.com/video/T5OTYlKDF90/v-deo.html
@@benraven9087 exactly!! But nope, having a non mainstream opinion is apparently bad
If I may defend him a bit, he has given a few good tips on writing and some story ideas.
(Doesn't excuse his politics, but I'd be lying if I didn't get anything good from him.)
@@daelen.cclark Same. His criticism can be worthwhile when they are well-researched.
I definitely have mixed feelings about Doug, Channel Awesome, and what happened to the reviewers, and although I don't agree with what happened, I still enjoy Doug's content, so I don't know how all to feel about it. With that said, I feel like "The Review Must Go On" was one of Doug's strongest pieces of content and felt the most genuine.
Doug did actually talked about the controversy with Double Toasted. While he didn't say much, he said that the site had gotten too big which resulted in the poor communications. But nowadays they're trying their best to keep things simple, under control, and enjoyable for the crew.
It got overcrowded, definitely, and showed how much of a house of cards it really was, but I’m glad he’s got a few others working with him that can see things he doesn’t.
Wow, this hit in the feels by the end. I started watching the Nostalgia Critic when I was in high school, I'm 30 now. How I was introduced was during the sleepovers I'd have with my friends during high school, my dad set it up so that I could view things on his laptop on the TV which I thought was the coolest thing at the time, watching youtube on TV? Wow! So whenever I was host, we'd take turns pulling up various videos from youtube to watch & this one friend always wanted to play Aladdin & the Cave of Cheeseburgers but we saw it enough times so she changed to playing different Nostalgia Critic videos. Watching this reminded me of everything from over the years, experiencing all of this from a fan's viewpoint in real time. I'm still friends with that group to this day, we were tight in high school, not so much now as adults but we still try our best to stay in contact & whenever we're not catching up on what's been going on in our lives, we'd talk about the Nostalgia Critic's latest episodes but it's been so long since we've talked about it because obvious reasons. Actually, the friend who introduced us all to NC is fighting cancer, sounds like she's doing a lot better but we were very scared for her. Makes anything relating to NC more heavy, when I think of a lot of his older work, I'm reminded of when that friend brought up certain videos during the sleepovers. Life sucks & it's sad that Doug Walker got trapped having to be the Nostalgia Critic but if he played a negative role in everything then maybe it's a form of hell he must endure.
Yeah, I stopped watching Mr. Enter. At first he was funny, but then after a while, his ranting got old.
I sorta forgot he was a thing for a while.
I thought he has some points that could be informative and helpful, but it just became stale nitpicks and rants
I wouldn’t say hes that bad, though I find his older videos kinda unwatchable and overdramatic
@@JeffVaderVEVO he is the same as animat
he got better
It’s ironic. He’s the embodiment of the tragedy of the line “Stick to what you’re good at.” Yes, he does make a comfortable living, but he’s essentially frozen in time, trapped as the Nostalgia Critic. There’s no climbing the ranks, no eventual big break. A man who dreamed to create denied the chance to ever do so, cursed to review the works of others. A living fossil in the current era of UA-cam.
I still watch the NC despite all the controversy that went on. He's still got some decent content, he has evolved as he doesn't do one long synopsis of movies while pointing out it's flaws for comedy anymore. He still reviews movies, but does more analyzing of them rather than tearing them apart while screaming profanity at the screen.... His style nowadays is similar to what Lindsey Ellis used to do in her reviews. I do notice that he doesn't do a whole lot of skits anymore, but that may have something to do with current events. I'll admit it is refreshing to see him analyze the movies he reviews rather than nitpick them. He has improved slightly, and I hope he continues to improve his art as time goes by.
You have a good point.
For me, I didn't really pay any attention to the whole "Change the Channel" thing at all.
I remember the Change The Channel Movement. The Walker brothers and Mike screwed over alot of their employees and they didn't apologize. And most people defended them even though they were in the wrong.
@Big Macintosh
I think it's kinda pathetic that Doug and Rob don't have the balls to apologize.
The Walkers had NO say In the matter and you know that. It’s why CTC completely died down.
@@Tornado1994
Really? That kinda proves my point.
@@alienboy1322Yes. CTC is DEAD. Its been dead since Early 2020. You should blame COVID.
I never really got the whole “change the channel” thing. While the drama was interesting to watch unfold I couldn’t really make myself care. Both sides had some seriously unsavory characters and call me a cynic but even as a kid the idea that Channel Awesome was just “a bunch of friends who made videos together” seemed pretty unrealistic. So when the whole CTC thing came out I was pretty unfazed and didn’t really get why people freaked out.
I’m still watching him to this day. He is very important to me as an aspiring Actor/Filmmaker and I will defend to the day I’ll die
@Robert Burns
I refuse to watch him to the day I die.
@@alienboy1322 ok, You do you
@David Foerster
No, We DON'T.
@@alebree6983
Dude, I disown Doug Walker in everyway and there's no virtue in blind loyalty.
@@alebree6983
What sarcasm, idiot? You just trying to make me forget about everything that happen.
I still watch the Nostalgia Critic and I think he is still a millionaire for someone who started off as a janitor he made a pretty good life for himself and people of channel awesome before the implosion.
I’ve watched you for about a decade now Animat, and I’m loving these deep dive videos! It’s really brought me back into your channel!
Honestly, even though I still subscribe and watch the Nostalgia Critic, I don't know what to say about all this. Nostalgia Critic, Mr. Enter, PieGuyRulz and of course, You Animat, are some of my biggest inspirations to help me write better stories for my animations and try to do some experimentations for me works. Before, I just like to do random types of animations, regardless if the stories made sense or not just for the sake of random fun. And while I still tend to lean towards randomous and comedy, I do try add in some structure to them. They may not always land the way I wanted them to be but at least I try and the results often come with varying results.
I'm just wonder whether or not Animat will do a similar video to either Mr Enter or Cosmodore. Compared to those two, Doug is actually a lot nicer. His angry reviews in the past were mainly just for the sake of comedy and I'm actually glad that he doesn't always rely on negative reviews and does occasionally do something positive like his Dark Toons series. Mr. Enter use to do the same with Admirable Animations (which was one of the reasons why I subscribed to him in the first place) but later, he decided to make Soul his finale for Admiral Animations and decided to focus more on Atrocities, his Growing Around Project (either as an animation or as a graphic novel) and occasionally top 10s. Doug at the very least tries to think about not just himself but everyone else involved in Channel Awesome. Mr Enter kinda treated some of his employees badly. One of his former editors, StarGiantProductions said she was treated badly when working for Enter, especially on his Nick-o-Rama reviews. While I still have fond memories of watching Mr. Enter's older works and often revisit them, I rarely revisit his new ones because I just don't know what to say about him with his political views, his way on reviewing some animations, his treatment to some of his empolyees, etc. In fact, I often revisit Doug's new stuff more. Nevertheless, I still subscribe to Enter only to hear what stupid thing he has to say, regardless if his reviews are good or not.
Do I even have to say about what happened with Cosmodore? It was bad enough when Animat at one point gave him a guest appearance in Animat's Crazy Cartoon Cast.
I loved Mr Enter back in the day too
I feel mr enter wants to move on from his involvement with cosmodore, and he’s often mentioned Mr. Enter in his “crazy cartoon cast”.
He’ll probably do an editorial on Enter, but there’s something to be said for waiting ‘til the storm clears.
Not to mention there’s other things like Mr. Coat and all that came with it that he could do.
Although maybe some things are best left in the past.
@@daelen.cclark Recently, Animat and Mr. Coat are in good terms with each other.
@@brrgames
Where did you learn about that?
@@daelen.cclark Here: ua-cam.com/video/AYw5ShYzYNk/v-deo.html at 1:59:24
I grew up on Nostalgia Critic. I still remember the first video I watched of it, “Old vs New: Spider Man”. Since then, Nostalgia Critic was a major part of my life. Even though I was born in 2001, I grew up watching mostly kids movies from the 80s and 90s, so seeing his reviews still helped me feel nostalgic. I watched his videos every Wednesday. I wanted so badly to visit the office that the videos were shot in. Many of the review channels that I watch and are subscribed to were originally recommended to me because of how much I watched his videos. I remember how giddy I was when he mentioned My Little Pony (my favorite show at the time) in one of his videos (the one about how good kids cartoons are nowadays). My standards for what make good movies were largely thanks to his reviews, and my interest in filmmaking at least partially is thanks to his videos. Learning about what all he did just filled me with so much dread.
Also, with your comment about Mr Enter, there was a time I would’ve defended him, but I can’t in good conscience. His videos about politics are so heavily misinformed, and it’s clear that he doesn’t understand politics at all.
In my opinion I don't think it's just the Nostalgia Critic that's not the same anymore, it's also the internet itself.
The internet has become a much different place since the first Nostalgia Critic videos were ever made. His style of reviews just don't hold up like what they use to in this modern era of the internet.
Even people like James Rolfe (A.K.A The Angry Video Game Nerd) have tried newer styles of reviewing to fit in with what most of the modern reviewers are doing.
In the end, Doug Walker really did turn into Daffy Duck. People started getting tired of his schtick and barely anything can go right for him.
I'm actually kind of amazed that so many of the better known Channel Awesome contributors are still going & that there are still more people getting into the same sort of video reviews. I would do it myself, if I had the energy to deal with UA-cam. That being said, at this point, there isn't a lot left to be said which hasn't already been said about most movies people have heard of. And I'd need to invest in, at least, a much better capture card.
James Rolfe & Doug Walker are also the main reasons UA-cam recommended me to subscribe to this channel a few years ago. =)
I remember that back in 2015, his Jurassic World review already pissed off a large number of people, do to giving idiotic critizisms that are blatantly false, and overall just being obnoxious. That was the first time I Saw a large number of people not liking the Nostalgia Critic
And then there's his fuckup with The Mummy Returns where he clearly didn't do his homework about the characters
@Mr. Kaiju
It was awful. First of all, I didn't understand why Doug would review the film when it's in cinemas and do a low grade reenactment of the film.
@@alienboy1322 it was to avoid copyright strikes
@@jobywonkanobi
Its still dumb and awful.
There was also the Ernest Saves Christmas review where he made a joke about autism (later replaced w/ a different joke) and said the N-word.
I've been watching NC since about 2015 when i was like 12. And honestly doug has greatly shaped and inspired me, as stupid as that sounds. Even after all these years i keep coming back to his videos every single week even though growing up has made me realise some of his reviews and decicions really do suck. it's a strange mix of genuine and ironic enjoyment but even after all these years i still consider myself a Nostalgia Critic fan.
Feel free to keep watching, but I don’t really like him anymore.
I still have taken inspiration from the guy, but I follow other channels.
Oh, the irony of feeling nostalgic for a critic that's based on nostalgia.🤣
The last video I watched from him was the Monster Squad review, and it's still really fun to this day.
I kinda want to see Animat take on the history of Mr Enter.
I still watch the new Nostalgia Critic episodes and get a kick out of them.
@EB The Original Master
I personally refuse to watch them. For oblivious reasons.
That’s your right and your opinion.
@@Tornado1994
Although, I will admit that I liked Pop Quiz Hotshot.
@marius kristensen
And proud of it. I'm not losing anything of value.
Lol I actually like to watch the nostalgia critic of how witty, and decent they can be sometimes.
This was not quite fair take on Cinematic Venom.
But aside from that, the video was better than I expected. Mat has finally acknowledged that Change the Channel movement isn't "going strong" - it collapsed in infighting long ago and lost its impact way before that, because people took it as just another recent trend and moved on after two weeks to never give it a thought again. I guess Mat really does do an extensive research for each of his documentaries. Great, that gives his channel a bigger long-term value.
All this is and will be a sad story though...
Yeah, he’s quite informative that way.
The story itself is kinda sad.
But it makes me wonder… who do you refer to with “Cinematic Venom”, and why do you think it’s not a fair take on them?
AniMat is the greatest person for reviews of all kids movies and cartoons both good and bad
you're an awesome guy mat and im not joking keep up the good work my friend :3
Yeah, I agree with you! AniMat is the best!
@@Toontastic_Juju yh man respect friend
@@callumpolaa.k.adjvinylrise2543 mhm, let’s all respect the talented content creators.
I'd say he's just one of the greatest, realistically speaking.
@@Toontastic_Juju i respect them all deeply
I’ve heard about the situation of Channel Awesome but I didn’t get the full story. Watching this video made it easy to understand the full story and situation of Channel Awesome.
It's the ones who you look up to that can hurt you the most, people.
Especially if you’re trying to content create yourself like I am.
I'm forced to agree John Lasserter Cough
@@Zakaria3400
I still have hope he learns from his mistakes.
@@Zakaria3400 John at least was about promoting cheerful media with positive messages instead of dividing people.
I can better enjoy cheerful media made by a bad person than a so-called good person rejecting cheerful media.
The Not So Awesome document kind of reminds me of the Disney War book by James B Stewart. Like the document, it reveals a history of Michael Eisner's leadership and how it went down in flames in the early and mid-2000s and revealing the dark truth of the management of the Disney Company from Michael Eisner's leadership, to Jeffery Katzenberg being in charge of Disney Animation, to Roy E Disney resigning the company in late 2003, and Roy calling out Eisner for destroying the company in the 2000s. The book shattered the reputation of the Walt Disney Company even further.
Funny how this video came out right after a Collab with PhantomStrider (Which is Top 10 Banned Commericals)
Now, let's get our Bat Credit Cards!
Hate to tell you but Linkara killed the joke
God that meme sucks
@@TsukiCondor
Thank goodness for that, it got old.
@@daelen.cclark ua-cam.com/video/Yiwit6qMOGw/v-deo.html
A BAT CREDIT CARD?
Lindsay Ellis has always been funnier and a much better critic than Doug Walker could ever hope to be, and now an acclaimed author. I heavily disagree with her politically when it comes to racism, feminism, etc, but she's honestly the best critic on the internet by her analysis talents alone. She graduated from 2 of the best film schools in the world. That should give you an understanding on why she's so damn good.
@F. N. Lorter
I don't care about Lindsey. Nothing personal. And unlike Doug, she apologize when she got herself into controversy.
Prefers you're right about her being better.
Agreed
@@alienboy1322 Didn't she kinda cancel herself by deleting her Twitter to get away from backlash?
Also, she has some takes that are so bad that It makes me feel that Doug might have corrupted her in some way.
@@disneyfan8719
Her takes on Raya and Soul were bad, and it gotten so much backlash, she deleted her Twitter.
She did reactivate and offer an apology on her UA-cam.
And that, Mr. Walker, is how you be an adult and own up to your faults.
@@disneyfan8719 Ellis is Doug's Ex. They were romantically involved the first 3 years of CA, she often wouldn't upload content for weeks on in, often breaching her contract intentionally middle fingering Mike Michaud. Ellis and Doug would often see each other whenever she was in Chicago. They split in Early 2011 because Michaud kept complaining about her and was TERRIFIED of Fraternization. Ellis and Walker STILL Remained friends, and Lindsay STAYED with Channel Awesome ALL the Way until March 2015 leaving on HER own terms. Keep it mind, Lupa and her Lackey's didn't leave CA until Blip TV shut down in August of 2014. They were ALL let go from their contracts and fired by Michaud.
Corrupted? You really think Doug is some Devil or Sexual Deviant? That's Ridiculous. Lindsay and Doug had a CONSENSUAL Romantic and Sexual Relationship from 2008-2011.
Lindsay deleted her twitter because she does NOT want to be associated or involved with this or CTC. She generally views them as Toxic little Hitlers. She only addressed Grievances in the Document, and has NEVER commented PUBLICLY on that matter NOR has she ever commented on CTC itself. Ellis is NOT a Fan of Cancel Culture.
Lindsay is also STILL Friends with the Walkers and STILL talks to Brad Jones and his Family. She flew to Chicago in September 2016 to console Doug and attend his Mother's Funeral.
Usually I would watch the nostalgia critic if he does an editorial (like 2d vs 3D animation), reviews something bad, or reviews something that I’m familiar with or have seen before.
Funny enough I've been watching Animat for about 10 years now, even longer than Nostalgia Critic! I think something you and Doug have in common (in a good way) y'all are both great at writing video essays! I feel like I've learned so much from both of you! (Despite Channel Awesome's fall from grace)
Same here!
This was a masterfully edited and scripted video. Succinct without leaving out any critical information, objective enough to avoid the bias for/against specific critics usually present in people's responses to Doug's work, and touched upon Mr. Enter, the other major disappoint in the animation critique community.
AniMat talking about Nostalgia Critic, that's a dream come true.
Who would've thought he would talk about The History of The Nostalgia Critic.
Lol agreed man I always wondered what Doug was like before UA-cam.
@@YakkoWarnerTower I think he was a Janitor at an office somewhere (according to his old videos) before being a UA-camr.
Yep, you’re right about Doug Walker the Nostalgia Critic, he must change his own attitude and move on to better things.
I didn't follow Nostalgia Critic videos until more recent years. I would just watch a few here and there when I wanted some laughs. I wasn't around for all the changes and controversy. It seems to me that most people have moved on one way or the other. Since I'm not a part of the that community, I don't have strong feelings about it. I respect that Doug's an adult and should be treated the way I'd want to be treated if I were in his situation. I look at Doug and his family/cohorts as seemingly nice, talented people. I still watch Nostalgia Critic every week. I've seen a good chunk of his body of work. He's a real movie buff and knows some stuff about film. Sometimes I learn something about film from his reviews of recent years. Sometimes the humor is hit or miss. I can tell when he's having a good week and when he's struggling to find those knee slappers. I disagree with the video's conclusion that Doug's situation is kind of a sad one. He's still making content and seems content and grateful to be doing it. As for losing influence, that comes and goes with the times. Times have changed, Doug's evolved and Nostalgia Critic still pulls in a crowd on UA-cam with its billions of videos. That's no small feat.
I started following him I think in 2020 when I came across his GI Joe Movie review and I just watch his videos and more recently Disneycember but I do feel he has somewhat changed since the upload of this video. For one he now reviewing more mainstream stuff like Diary Of A Wimpy Kid and Spiderman No Way Home. He also gives positives about the films which was lacking in his older reviews which I have watched some of them.
I’ve been resentful of online reviews lately, mainly for their use of profanity directed at their audience, whether for jokes or not.
Im still a fan of Doug and still watch his reviews...ill leave this here
Ditto
@David Foerster i really wanna meet him considering i also live in Illinois im just waiting for him and rob to randomly show up at my job to get food while driving somewhere for a con or whatever 😆. It may never happen but i can dream lol
@David Foerster I don't.
@David Foerster First of, Animatt is way better at reviewing animated movies good or bad, Doug on the other hand is not really that good and intelligent to research the film deeply (hints: Lion King 1994 and there was nothing wrong with Hakuna Matata and I never like him when I first watched him review Space Jam) and he repeats what he already talked about before. The AVGN is way better than him and that guy I can laugh too much at, more then that narcissist Nostaglia Critic who abused his workers and staffs.
@@LoudHouseCritic2018 I’m not one to agree with his opinion on Temple of Doom, but I am on the same level as him when it comes to Hakuna Matata. Sure opinions are like a-holes, but at least someone shares the same one as I do.
Okay, that just came out wrong….
It's basically manditory for anyone who talks about movies on UA-cam to crap on Doug Walker at least once
I know Doug isn't what he used to be, but I'd say he still has a lot of potential. His Dark Toons series has a lot of educational and artistic value to it, and I'd say his reviews have improved a bit from the Wall travesty (at least from what I can tell).
@GlobeMedia™ plus a lot of the cast recently came back, so does that mean they've finally moved on from the " change the channel" saga?
Walter Banaziak, a part of the main team, has done some great work, from what I’ve heard.
5:57 it wasn’t Blip at first, but Revver. I wasn’t around for that era so I don’t know the full story, but yeah Blip came later.
Good point.
But I’m guessing it didn’t last long.
@@daelen.cclark Yeah, I forget the exact reason they jumped, but it was damning. Blip lasted far longer.
I still don't get how his videos were loved back then, but they're laughed at now (a bad creator can still have good content).
Internet. Not being a prick, only the internet believes that people should be bashed and hated no matter what...until it's something they love or even themselves, then they will acknowledge that having that behaviour is dumb
I think it was cause of AVGN. Let's keep in mind that James Rolfe's character has been around since the mid-2000s. He became a role model for some on how to do reviews at the time. However i think the problem is that people forgot to realize that AVGN was a character played by a guy that had passion for monster movies. AVGN's whole persona is meant to be a satirical view on taking the flaws in video games seriously, but some people have viewed it as a real way to review things. That's why reviews from the 2010s in some cases are seen as someone trying to imitate that review style.
Because people were younger, and he tended to resort to a lot of shock humor in his early reviews that hasn't aged well.
Please make an AVGN video please. Your channel and this video is awesome. Damm what makes this more sad is the Doug doesn't see anything other life as an option. I guess the bitter sweet side of it all, is that he was never destined to be a big filmmaker as he thought he would. I not saying he doesn't have the talent, but Doug really needs some skills of modern filmmaking to make it big again.
its weird to think that in alternate timeline ThatGuywiththeglasses could've replaced youtube as a content platform
23:30 yeah, I heard about the would be 10th anniversary special on a podcast. I think the idea was later used by Linkara to make A Voice from The Dark audio drama.
It was according to Lewis.
But the similarities between that and the final product are few and far between. Personally, I think that’s for the best.
@@daelen.cclark true, especially when Some Jerk With a Camera talked about it, they are very two different things. I did like the audio drama.
You know now that you've done Doug Walker, you've got to do James Rolfe because if your gonna do a history of the Critic you got to do the nerd.
Both Doug and James are great in their own ways and I still love both of them. I still love the Nostalgia Critic and it makes me sad how many people hate him now just because of his current videos being different with the skits and the #ChangetheChannel controversy. I still think his current reviews are great and really enjoyable. I appreciate you for making this video, Mat and not being one of those kinds of people who "expose" him or make videos on why he's terrible. I personally think you should watch some of his recent videos. You'll probably like them. Totally up to you. Just a suggestion.
Once again, Great video!
To sum up how I (or we all) feel about nostalgia critic, the entirety of Rät by Penelope Scott is the perfect song.
Thank you for this video as a former fan of the Nostalgia Critic
My favourite running joke from Doug is "I'm Acting".
I actually have a crazy story how I actually discovered Doug’s channel, but it wasn’t that I stumbled upon one of his videos or when I was watching AVGN but when I was watching The Angry Joe Show and I saw him in a thumbnail with Doug for Man of Steel back in either 2014 or 2015
Then I kinda felt something serious and bad was going on behind the scenes of Channel Awesome after I saw a recent video about Justin Carmichael (JewWario).
Now not only I felt bad for the other creators of the sight and also the community, but also Doug. If him saying he was forced into silence was true, then you can’t help but wonder how is Channel Awesome going to continue as a community under these circumstances
I used to watch som nostalgia critic back around 2014 with his foodfight review, but I still watch some of his content today, but they are not as good as they used to be since it feels a little more corporate this time due to the UA-cam sponsors. I feel very sorry for the channel awesome staff that were mistreated and harassed. The former staff hopefully would improve their videos into becoming big. Also one thing to mention, after the controversy he would be made fun of, and it got even more big thanks to Chris O’Neal Aka OneyNG.
23:57 can someone provide a link to the tweet about Doug’s “response”? I can’t find it anywhere
animat, i quite enjoy doug's reviews
not only the ones he does currently, but also when you look at the ones from previous seasons of nostalgia critic
there was one review in particular that he did that had to do with anthologies of looney tunes films between the late 70s and all through the 80s
which these facts should have been covered in their own seperate videos as companions to the videos about the looney tunes animation lookback
i pointed out that the first film before bugs bunny road runner movie, was Bugs bunny superstar in 1975, which had been narrated by Orson welles, and in between Nine seperate cartoons, it had a bunch of interesting documentary sections about the animators and directors
and that people should acknowledge that film when re-reviewing the other looney tunes films
Honestly, I still enjoy watching older Nostalgia Critic videos from time to time and still find the nostalgic commercials episodes funny. Also, while his "The Wall" review itself has become infamous I actually really like Sam Fennah's contribution to it, specifically the "The Trial" portion. I've become a fan of Fennah's Satellite City/August Few creatures and videos and am glad that review didn't seem to have negatively affected him. I appreciate your video here about the Nostalgia Critic and not being harsh like others.
When is the next animation lookback gonna be uploaded
I’m very excited
Bruce Springsteen once said "You know the old saying: trust the art, not the artist. I think that's true. I think somebody can do real good work and be a fool in a variety of ways."
My favorite genre of UA-camrs is reviewers who were obviously inspired by Doug Walker but found their own niche over time and now make better content than Doug ever did - this includes Dominic Noble, Felix Nordh and yes - you too, Mat!
I love Dom’s LIA reviews especially when he’s in fanboy mode 😆 and boy did I sympathize when he went through the ‘Twilight’ saga (yuck)
I’m personally into cinematic excrement, Animat, and Linkara (among many others).
I still watch his channel but I do notice I tend to gravitate more towards his Doug reviews instead of his Nostalgic Critic reviews.
Oh I remember the Nostalgia Critic, I loved his many reviews and such, but I will admit he did start to become subpar beginning in 2018 with only a few good exceptions. I honestly never got involved in the whole “Change The Channel” movement because controversy and especially Cancel Culture is just plain awful, but I still love the old vids up to 2017.
Me too.
Agreed. What also impressed me is how Silent Rob and Asa called out Lupa and mostly DEFENDED Doug.
I wasn’t very online during the whole controversy that you describe, so it’s no surprise that I never took notice of it. I certainly don’t agree with every single thing he says or find humor in every single joke that they use, but I still keep up with the videos and am actually more a fan of his recent work than the older stuff. I think the more recent videos have a more refined style and actually have more to say about the movies themselves, rather than just shouting angry stuff.
I still watch Critic
I understand the controversy is bad but it seems like he’s been trying to be better. I know his Christmas videos are always heartwarming and he cares about his family and friends
Maybe Channel Awesome just got too big to handle
i actually love the nostalgia critic and i actually think he’s really smart and interesting but i mainly watch him because their funny
I never thought I would see the day Animat would talk about the Nostalgia Critic.
Because Doug is a douchebag and animat is not?
@@nolanhewitt2563 I’m just surprised, that’s all.
Me either
Well, he did talk about him a few years ago in his podcast discussing the "Change The Channel" controversy.
They should collaborate for say, a review...
Wow, i never knew about the full Nostalgia Critic history, I heard a few times about the Change the Channel thing (and i still watch some new videos of nostalgia critic, but only ones with Doug), but man thats an informative video
Are you hinting at a future video on Mr. Enter? I hope so!
Sure, Doug's career as The Nostalgia Critic might've had afew ups and downs after the whole "Change the Channel" thing, but he still manage to try making us laugh and still doing a lot of Movie and TV Show reviews to this day.
But sometimes I can still get why Animat did an entire video about Nostalgia Critic.
Yeah.
Although I don’t really get anything out of it anymore.
@@daelen.cclark Glad you agree
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941
Thank you.
@@daelen.cclark No problem
I miss the Cinematic Venom and his documentary on Channel Awesome along with Change the Channel.
He's changed his opinion on Change the Channel now.
@@JaredGriffiths2000 That was fairly quick, given it's just been a little over 3 years. But okay, whatever.
Something tells me you've been watching Down the Rabbit Hole as you're using lots of fades to black, like the Bunny Boy himself with his video. Other than that, great video, Mat. It's crazy how Channel Awesome went from high at the top and now, they're in the basement and it seems like their stuck there for a long time.
I remember when I first saw do a review on the Disney afternoon cartoons and after seeing him I liked him. Ever since that video I continued to watch him up to this day. Even though Doug is not perfect, I do respect this guys passion and energy. He was also one of those people that influenced me to love and appreciate animation and know that film is powerful, I agree, some of his reviews are dated and boring. But he is funny in a sense of how he reviews bad films.
It really is a shame this had to happen. I've never been a huge fan of the Nostalgia Critic, per se, but I have always respected him as a content creator and enjoyed his videos a good deal. When I heard Channel Awesome went south, I wasn't entirely ready to believe it. I stayed subbed for a few more years, unknowing exactly what happened, even as I noticed that his reviews have slowly been declining in quality. ...Then I see this video. It really is tragic. A simple reviewer would eventually go on to make a great impact... And then bring it all down. Is he the scum of the Earth? No; I don't think so, at least. But he is a dark reminder that one thing can spoil all that you have going for you.
You know, after this video, I will never stop watching Nostalgia Critic. I legit feel bad for Doug Walker. I want to support him as long as it is possible for me. His whole life is a never ending tragedy.
The death of his Mother Sandra Walker in September 2016 is one nobody saw coming. You could tell he was in personal grief by it, he went bald just a while after.
Imagine if Doug stumbled across this video and reacted to it.
He might...
@@imaginatenation3697 Maybe
I like that Doug does a charity shout out in his reviews.