25:05 I want to repeat this: The VFX people are not to be blame for this. Also, please support VFX studios because between really terrible business management and Hollywood constantly taking advantage of that, they really need support and respect.
Yeah I know. That's why I get angry when people talk about how an animated film should've been 2D instead of 3D as if computer effects are just easy and full of typing rather actual artists like 2D animators.
@@carsfan1995 I know, it's a lot of work and they are creative with it. And both 2D and 3D animators had their share of hard to please management who basically slave drove them. And both styles produced amazing results and not so amazing results. I just wish people appreciate the work.
Or, in other words... ‘AAAAAAAUUUUUGGHHHHH!!!!!!! ANIMATION IS SO HARD!!!!!!! PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING DESERVE MORE CREDIT AND RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’
The whole point of making a CGI movie adaptation is to get around the limitations of the stage show. On the stage, the people in cat costumes are symbolic of actual cats. The characters are not supposed to be human-shaped cats! They look like that in the musical because that is how you portray animals on stage! What is the point of making them big furry humans with CGI when you could actually make them look like cats!? (Perhaps it has to do with all the celebrity voices who wouldn't be recognizable without their faces...)
A Disney-style musical would go against T.S. Elliot’s wishes, so maybe an anime adaptation would be good. Toho (of Godzilla, Your Name., and My Hero Academia fame) helped produce this film and they would probably make it much better if it was an anime film similar to Your Name..
I feel sorry for the artists that dealt with the director's mistreatment. They deserved much better than this. As for that Amblimation version of "Cats," I don't know how well it would've turned out, but I'd definitely take that over this uncanny live-action/CGI hybrid. And hey, maybe Tiger from "An American Tail" could've had a cameo.
But you also gotta keep in mind that Spielberg was also working on projects like Tiny Toons, Hook, Jurassic Park, Animaniacs, Schindler's List, The Flintstones, ER, Casper, Pinky and the Brain, Freakazoid, Balto, Twister, Men in Black, Amistad, Deep Impact, Private Ryan, Small Soldiers, Mask of Zorro and of course starting DreamWorks.
The Amblimation version would probably have been VERY different from the original musical, probably a very pragmatic adaptation, and would have bombed at the box office and reviews would have been bad, especially those from the fans of the original musical. Nowadays we would consider it a cult classic and its reputation would probably become better after this one would have come out. (This theory derives by the fact that Cats at the time Amblin got the rights was still in its prime and had a very big fandom, plus many tv shows and movies made jokes at its expenses)
And have it set during a Pogrom american Jews would be more familiar with, if you know what I mean. I don't know why Bluth decided to set An American Tail in Ukraine and not Germany.
I really, really wish it had been so. That concept art and those character sheets that you can still find online looked more promising than the one we got. And they could have done more with animation than they could with the CGI...imagine an impressionistically-animated "Memory", with phantoms of Grizabella's glamorous, beautiful past self superimposed over her bedraggled, faded present self.
SuperDisney Fan Why can't you just accept that CG is here to say and support the artists. My sister is a computer animator and no easier to animate than 2D. Quit acting like 2D is the purest form of animation and just think about actually important stuff in movies, like story and character and themes and entertainment value that goes beyond "I want 2D back, waa!"
Honestly, looking into the concept of Cats done by Amblimation. Honestly, it would have look way better as a animated film than live action film. It didn't need to be live action and it should stick into animation. I truly love the concept art and character design and character animation on the cat characters reminds me a cross between Disney's AristoCats and Don Bluth's The Secret of Nimh. Cats is one prime example why not everything has to be live action and shouldn't been animated. For example, the Disney live action remakes like The Lion King remake, Aladdin remake, Dumbo remake, Beauty and the Beast remake, Your Name remake, and worse case Alvin and the Chipmunks, Smurfs, Yogi Bear, Peter Rabbit and the upcoming Clifford and the Big Red Dog movie.
They don't.....how do you say...translate well into live action Cats was a Broadway stage show so it was fine that way and the only way it COULD HAVE been done would be through animation. The rest on your list well.....again a lot of things are better done animated and it's better if it stays that way and if they want to do a remake or a reboot they should re-animate it but they won't.....so stuff like The Lion King would make the animals look way to realistic and they look soulless. Also the the first movie for The Smurfs was absolutely terrible BUT the second one was actually good. At least they weren't in modern times. Lol
I once said that the Cats movie should've been animated and someone actually dared to ask, "Wouldn't that be disrespectful?" Um, no. The version we were stuck with is disrespectful. Why didn't they go to a different animation studio?!
How make an animated cats adaptation work? Simple: divide the musical into animated shorts that has their own self contained plot, but add something small that connects all the shorts together.
Or Make It Feature Length With Victoria Meet Big Obstacle And Friend Along The Way To Go To The Ball . But The Villain Storm The Ball Saying He Was The Best Out Of This Cats And Order His Cats Minion To Cause Chaos In The Ball . But In The End The Good One Win .
Dear AniMat, I hope that you're well. I am a subscriber of your channel from Australia. I loved your singing performance at the beginning and your lines during 15:22-15:30 "WHAT THE FRIDGE IS THAT?!" I hope you keep well during this terrible pandemic. Love, Bevan Borges.
Anyone else think this film would’ve been better off animated in the style of the Disney Renaissance movies like Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King?
I'm hoping Universal's movie adaptation of Wicked won't have the same fate as Cats especially if they learned what not to do in a musical adaptation. I mean it really shouldn't be hard to mess up doing an adaptation about the Witch's side of the story is especially in the visuals department given that it's freaking Oz we're talking about here.
@@matthewmoran5297 I dunno....if there's one thing I'VE learnt.....it's that these movie companies never learn their lessons.....EVER. They keep chucking out stinkers. And they will keep ruining anything based off of books, anime, manga, comics, Broadway stage shows and cartoons.....yayyy....Hollywood.....oh and sequels they will ruin sequels. I forgot that.
@@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 I'm sure someone could've pulled something together, for every whackjob who has no idea what they're doing there someone level-headed who could figure out how to fix the lack of a story.
@@spmscout but if they fix It , they will sacrifice the musical story (because like i said before , the story is lacking and suck) , and they need to found new Stories While Kepping The Spirit Of The Original Is Hell Insanity .
CONTROVERSIAL TAKE COMING: I hope Tom Hooper finds a way to redeem himself after this film. I think he's a exceptional talent and I can see where he was at least trying. I think with the whole news about him during post-production came from him not being the most tech-savvy of people and especially given the first trailer's release, the amount pressure placed on him to meet audiences demands and reach the Holiday deadline Universal was persisting on might have taken a toll on him; I mean he literally wrapped the film up 36 hours before the premiere. I understand it's not a excuse to be condescending towards employees, but I think he never meant to come off that way, perfectionism and stress don't go hand in hand, after all. What I hope for is that people don’t hold "Cats" against Tom to the point that he can’t grow as both a director and a person. He's totally far from the scum of entertainment (ie. Bryan Singer, Brett Ratner, Harvey Weinstien, John Kricfalusi) and even mentioned about doing a smaller and less spectacle-heavy project post-Cats (after this whole pandemic dies down); which I think is the right move for him, personally speaking. From what I've seen and heard about Tom is that he's a perfectionist, yet a very modest guy. He's always put's his cast and crew first, displays great amount professionalism on set, and even if he comes of as stern, it mostly due to wanting everybody to give it their all; Not to mention the respectfulness he presents in interviews and fan-encounters and the amount of care he has for certain social issues. Sure, he may have been a little unjust to the VFX department, but it's nothing like the amount of shit Weinstien, Ratner, Kricfalusi, and Singer pull that's beyond redemption. (ie. physically threatening others, not showing up on set, grooming women/minors into sexual relationships); again we can't hold this fiasco against Tom so much so that we're willing to believe he won't learn anything from his missteps, FILMMAKERS ARE PEOPLE, NOT HACKS. I will end this with a quote from Joaquin Phoenix: " We’re at our best is when we support each other. Not when we cancel each other out for past mistakes but when we help each other to grow, when we educate each other, when we guide each other toward redemption: That is the best of humanity.” @ElectricDragon505
Tom Hooper is a great director. He directed The King's Speech and Les Miserables which were both masterpieces (Les Miserables was soooo underrated) but I feel bad for him that the studio dragged him into this (Cats)
@@MrLopez2004-t9x He said that he was huge fan of the original stage show and saw it when he was 8. So there was a sense of connection and drive within him, as apposed being roped into it.
You could all do with watching Sideway's music theory type videos on this and Les Mis... Heck even Nostalgia Critic tore into Les Mis with valid points about the singing which Sideways explained more on. You're all focusing on the visuals when you should be listening to and looking at the music. Hooper does this weird thing of letting the actors do what they want on set, they sing whatever pitch they want with whatever timing they want. It sounds good in theory, letting the actors express themselves as they're supposed to do, but it never sounds right and it's a nightmare for an entire orchestra being forced to change up the speed and pitch with every whim the actors have. Even if he does respect his actors and crew it certainly didnt extend to 'lesser' members like musicians and the visual effects people since that quote mentioned in this video came from the special effects crew who said they werent even allowed to talk in conferences and he constantly talked to them like they were garbage. Just because he doesnt groom people or physically abuse them (as far as we know) it doesnt make verbal abuse okay or him a saint. Also I dont just hold Cats against him, I also hold the insanity he inflicted on Les Mis and every shallow Oscar grab against him too. But honestly the music is the worst thing, with Cats they were singing and dancing to a random mix of recorded music, recorded singing, and very rarely a beat. That's why if you watch it they dont move in time at all since they're listening to all sorts of different things that cut in and out. You can actually see when what they're listening to changes. The only song that was kept to a beat was the railway one due to the tapping, that's the only song that's on time and it shows. Plus the entire point and heart of the original show was torn out, (yes there was a story in the subtext) again it's explained really well in Sideway's video. Long story short looking at his actions and not his words he seems like a pretentious twat who thinks he's Gods gift to musicals when he doesnt have a clue. This, the Kings Speech and Les Mis were all just Oscar fodder, they hit the points for that (or at least tried) and that was all. They arent pushing any boundaries and are barely art, unless you count paint by numbers, even then he's not sticking to the needed lines... Besides, Les Mis fans are so rabid about the franchise from my experience you could stick a cat yowling in a box, slap a label with Les Mis on the side and they'd love it automatically... I really dont get that one...
Could Cats be the next Rocky Horror Picture Show having midnight showings with audience participation such as dressing up as cats, singing the songs and probably dancing in the aisles. I would definitely go see that.
larrylemson maybe in the same way we view the room where we laugh at how absurd it is but not like Rocky Horror were you could appreciate what went into it
The original idea of having the movie containing hand-drawn animation with miniature sets, to me, would've been very interesting and ambitious. Would've been amazing rather than having hand-drawn characters in hand-painted or computer-generated environments.
Very fascinating look into the production of the 2019 film adaptation. From what you previously shared about the behind the scenes story in a few episodes of your podcast, AniMat's Crazy Cartoon Cast of how director Tom Hooper treated the cast and special effect artist, it really shows he was the wrong person to direct the movie. And because of how the stories of how harsh he was during production is out to the public and the reception of the final film, it shows his reputation is now ruined and it looks like this film will most likely be the last movie based on a Broadway musical he'll ever direct. One thing that has got me worried with the reputation of both Tom Hooper and the film is that it might drastically affect his first musical film adaptation Les Miserables, where people and critics loved it back when it was released 8 years ago, but might change their minds about it and hate it as much as the 2019 Cats due to Tom Hooper's reputation being ruined.
Well thank goodness Disney went with the "film capture" method with Hamilton like the 1998 Cats, instead of directly adapting it. Let's just hope that if the "movie" does well they won't choose to go down the same route.
‘You know, that sounds like it’s not gonna translate super well to film, and maybe it exists in the right medium right now and we don’t have to force it. We can just let the art be-‘ ‘The musical made $4.5 BILLION!!!!’ ‘I mean we have to squeeze a movie out of that, for sure!’ ‘I thought so, too!’
This movie is super terrible and bad that it actually makes and of the Top-Cat theaterical movies and even The Cat in the Hat live action movie look entertaining,good and funny! THAT IS RIGHT, I FREAKING WENT THERE YOU FOOLS!
The part where you said that production of the cgi was an absolute he'll and that Tom Hooper was a tyrant reminds me of the production of Sausage Party.
Fanboy flicks said that ever since this movie came out, only bad things have happened. I think this movie is from hell and unleashed its unholy forces on our mortal world. I’m going crazy.
Yesterday December 20th 2019. A date which will live in infamy. Movie theaters gores around the world were suddenly and deliberately attacked by the movie adaptation of the Broadway musical cats.
The Cats Movie: Suffered a production nightmare, had a trailer with a almost 3:1 dislike to like ratio, and became a box office and critical bomb, but then becomes the new The Room and becomes popular. The Cats Movie: I didn't hear no bell.
6:11-Not to mention he produced and made his own animated series for Warner Bros. called Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs,Pinky & The Brain(and the infamous Pinky,Elmyra,and The Brain),and Freakazoid
22:10-22:38 Here’s some more “glowing” reviews: “My eyes are burning. Oh god, my eyes.” -Boston Globe “Cats is the worst thing to happen to cats since dogs.” -The Beat “Can you make a movie so bad that the Academy takes back your Best Director Oscar?” -Collider I can keep going. There’s just so many of them.
It's awesome to find out how adaptation was not the spectacle in the "moonlight" that it could've been. Another informative and interesting video. Keep it up!
The thing about the cgi is... TECHNICALLY, it looks great for a lot of the 'finished' version of the movie. Like, the fur looks very real, and the lighting is fantastic especially considering all the vibrant multi-colored lighting on the sets. But the human faces and the unfinished bits and the glitches and the WEIRD stuff the vfx artists were forced to make the characters do are SO DISTRACTING that you don't notice that the cgi is often, technically, actually pretty impressive
Technically impressive, actually awful means everyone who isn't technically proficient just noticed the awful. I feel bad for the technicians and the musicians. Tom Hooper doesn't seem to respect anyone who isn't a visual presence.
I was just about to suggest looking at Lindsey Ellis’s video on the movie until I saw her video is one of your sources; never mind; but I guess her “anonymous” source about the effects were in fact true :(
Hey me too, so I can figuratively ROAST Daniel Radcliffe more and make fun of him over it. Which is ironic since I have been crushing in him since Chamber of Secrets.
The leason is that don’t make gritty realistic musicals that aren’t suppose to be gritty and realistic it’s suppose to be idealistic. Musicals are like animated films because you have to be careful with them because bringing a medium especially musicals is hard to do on screen. Chicago did it gracefully also other good musicals. Watch Lindsey Ellis’s video for more detail
No because Cats doesn't have enough fart or poo joke and neither dreamworks or Illumination believe in whimsy as a means for entertaining children. The cats don't have cell phones or say dude or sing pop.
Tom Hulce It very possible, but Disney animation and Pixar would need a good story. Even their mediocre ones have something you can follow. Cats would be like defusing a timebomb for them.
Admit it, Taylor was nominated for the kids choice awards as best actress is all because she was the only good thing about the movie, also i liked her song more than the others
Cats was the first musical I’ve ever seen and it was as a trailer for the 1998 movie and it made me want to be a theatre kid. The 2019 movie just killed it
I honestly liked the attempt, even though it completely fell apart, and would call it a ‘handsome start.’ I want to see other filmmakers take a crack at it. Even if some of them fail, we can still have fun with the ‘Cats Movie Challenge.’
I think I'd have mixed opinions on this film if I saw it, especially after seeing Maggie Mae Fish's video on Cats & T.S. Eliot's work (which was the basis for the musical AND the film).
I'm really looking forward to Disney's Robin Hood remake, because if they somehow achieve the realistic animal-human hybrid feel of the various animals, without dipping into the uncanny valley, then Cats has even less of an excuse to look so godawful.
Oh Hell No , Im Not Looking Foward For Disney Remake Of Robin Hood Because After Cats And Lion King , I Do Not Trust Photorealistic CGI EVER AGAIN So Get That Robin Hood Remake Out Of My Face RIGHT NOW !
Here’s some ideas for your next history of Spongebob squarepants Doogal Vanguard animation Eight Crazy Nights Robert Zemekis motion capture company Nine lives 2016 Ice age franchise
I think Baz Luhrman would have been a better choice as director. His editing may be all over the place, but he is good a tanking camp enjoyable and has a good eye for art design and costumes. Especially since his films have won Oscars for production design and costumes.
It's a little premature to proclaim the fall of the movie musical yet, isn't it? In The Heights is still due (though delayed until next year) and looks promising. Then there's Spielberg's West Side Story coming up in December, and the Wicked movie still in the pipeline (though production hasn't started).
But Spielberg's Version Will More To The Stage Rather The Original Movie . But Atleast West Side Story Isn't An Animal Story Like That Demonic Cats Movie .
25:10 Oh, come now, I'm sure they are just making fun of the films CGI effects, not the CGI effects artists themselves. I mean, ok, I don't like James Cordin either (he was the Hand Emoji and Peter Rabbit fuckers after all XD) but I'm pretty sure the joke was towards the movie, not the people in the industry itself.
Think you can also go into the full history of how The Animal, The Hot Chick, Son of The Mask, America Ultra, The spy Who Dumped Me, Playing With Fire and Like A Boss just as awful as Cats sometime?
This movie is SSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD and terrible at the same time that it makes the Cat in the Hat live action movie look good to watch.
22:00 Actually, the first movie to get patched while in theaters to my knowledge was Show Dogs as the had to edit out one joke that was just too adult in it. The joke involved a guy grabbing a dogs testicles. Yeah, I don't know what that was doing in a movie aimed at young kids.
Probably the very first film to have any "patch" was probably the original Aladdin, where they had to edit two of Robin Williams' lines because they managed to slip by the radar a bit *too* obviously.
This is an amazing jellicle video! I really liked the *jellicle* singing and the jellicle-- wait what the hell? What is jellicle anyway? GAAAAAAAAAAAH I keep saying jellicle, I need a jellicle from you! Wait...........oh my god............. Jellicle is in my brain, it's in my heart and lungs, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I remember one of the lyrics that Taylor Swift said in her song "Look what you made me do". She said "I'll be the actress starting in your bad dreams."
25:05 I want to repeat this: The VFX people are not to be blame for this. Also, please support VFX studios because between really terrible business management and Hollywood constantly taking advantage of that, they really need support and respect.
Yeah I know. That's why I get angry when people talk about how an animated film should've been 2D instead of 3D as if computer effects are just easy and full of typing rather actual artists like 2D animators.
@@carsfan1995 I know, it's a lot of work and they are creative with it. And both 2D and 3D animators had their share of hard to please management who basically slave drove them. And both styles produced amazing results and not so amazing results. I just wish people appreciate the work.
Or, in other words...
‘AAAAAAAUUUUUGGHHHHH!!!!!!! ANIMATION IS SO HARD!!!!!!! PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING DESERVE MORE CREDIT AND RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’
@@TF2Fan101 Pretty much. Though let's not scream. Even if we want to, it'ss hard on the throat.
*g Oo D vi S u a L e F f E c T s*
haha funny meem.
VFX people: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You know when a history lesson on a film is better than the film itself.
Blueboiii the Nerd I have a list of behind the scenes films of bad movies.
Like the thief in the cobbler emoji movie Foodfight and legends of oz
@@maddalonefarms The Thief And The Cobbler Actually Prerty Good . The Recobbled Ver .
Uki I know it’s good but it still has a history lesson so it counts
The History of The Island of Dr. Moreau 1994. Now that's a good one.
No cats were harmed during the making of this film, but a few careers were.
Judi Dench is an Oscar winner, she'll be fine.
James Cordan been in worse movies than this, so as long he's hosting a talk show he'll be okay.
Read my post.
@@MalescoM LOL
Nick Dorenkamp I doubt it!
The whole point of making a CGI movie adaptation is to get around the limitations of the stage show. On the stage, the people in cat costumes are symbolic of actual cats. The characters are not supposed to be human-shaped cats! They look like that in the musical because that is how you portray animals on stage! What is the point of making them big furry humans with CGI when you could actually make them look like cats!? (Perhaps it has to do with all the celebrity voices who wouldn't be recognizable without their faces...)
What should have been a fully animated film and not a weird cgi hybrid; should have stayed as a fully animated film
Cats is untranslatable to film, animated or otherwise. It should stay on the stage because it is a long form interpretive dance.
That's why Amblimation should've never shut down.
@@JacobFiveash but at least we got DreamWorks
A Disney-style musical would go against T.S. Elliot’s wishes, so maybe an anime adaptation would be good.
Toho (of Godzilla, Your Name., and My Hero Academia fame) helped produce this film and they would probably make it much better if it was an anime film similar to Your Name..
Hey, at least give Spielberg some credit for trying.
I feel sorry for the artists that dealt with the director's mistreatment. They deserved much better than this.
As for that Amblimation version of "Cats," I don't know how well it would've turned out, but I'd definitely take that over this uncanny live-action/CGI hybrid. And hey, maybe Tiger from "An American Tail" could've had a cameo.
CAN SOMEBODY MAKE AN ANIMATION FILM OF CATS BECAUSE I LOVE MUSICAL AND THIS FILM IS SO BAD , IT'S DAMAGE THE MUSICAL REPUTATION
that guy having to delete the buttholes had worse
But you also gotta keep in mind that Spielberg was also working on projects like Tiny Toons, Hook, Jurassic Park, Animaniacs, Schindler's List, The Flintstones, ER, Casper, Pinky and the Brain, Freakazoid, Balto, Twister, Men in Black, Amistad, Deep Impact, Private Ryan, Small Soldiers, Mask of Zorro and of course starting DreamWorks.
The Amblimation version would probably have been VERY different from the original musical, probably a very pragmatic adaptation, and would have bombed at the box office and reviews would have been bad, especially those from the fans of the original musical. Nowadays we would consider it a cult classic and its reputation would probably become better after this one would have come out. (This theory derives by the fact that Cats at the time Amblin got the rights was still in its prime and had a very big fandom, plus many tv shows and movies made jokes at its expenses)
And have it set during a Pogrom american Jews would be more familiar with, if you know what I mean. I don't know why Bluth decided to set An American Tail in Ukraine and not Germany.
What if Cats was instead a hand-drawn animated movie like Steven Speilburg wanted it to be? Ah, one can dream.
Matthew Bond 007 so like Fantasia but just with Cats. That actually doesn’t sound too bad.
Maybe disney can do an computer animation aduptation someday
I really, really wish it had been so. That concept art and those character sheets that you can still find online looked more promising than the one we got. And they could have done more with animation than they could with the CGI...imagine an impressionistically-animated "Memory", with phantoms of Grizabella's glamorous, beautiful past self superimposed over her bedraggled, faded present self.
@@isaacarmendariz2538 Or perhaps Disney can do it in Hand Drawn like the film was intended.
SuperDisney Fan
Why can't you just accept that CG is here to say and support the artists. My sister is a computer animator and no easier to animate than 2D. Quit acting like 2D is the purest form of animation and just think about actually important stuff in movies, like story and character and themes and entertainment value that goes beyond "I want 2D back, waa!"
Mat would’ve made Cats a whole lot more bearable if he was in it.
Honestly, looking into the concept of Cats done by Amblimation. Honestly, it would have look way better as a animated film than live action film. It didn't need to be live action and it should stick into animation. I truly love the concept art and character design and character animation on the cat characters reminds me a cross between Disney's AristoCats and Don Bluth's The Secret of Nimh.
Cats is one prime example why not everything has to be live action and shouldn't been animated. For example, the Disney live action remakes like The Lion King remake, Aladdin remake, Dumbo remake, Beauty and the Beast remake, Your Name remake, and worse case Alvin and the Chipmunks, Smurfs, Yogi Bear, Peter Rabbit and the upcoming Clifford and the Big Red Dog movie.
Clifford? But that movie was 2d animated
No, there is going to be a upcoming film adaptation based on the children's books.
They don't.....how do you say...translate well into live action Cats was a Broadway stage show so it was fine that way and the only way it COULD HAVE been done would be through animation. The rest on your list well.....again a lot of things are better done animated and it's better if it stays that way and if they want to do a remake or a reboot they should re-animate it but they won't.....so stuff like The Lion King would make the animals look way to realistic and they look soulless. Also the the first movie for The Smurfs was absolutely terrible BUT the second one was actually good. At least they weren't in modern times. Lol
Sonic almost fell into that horrible trope but thanks to the redesign, his movie is good unlike... *Shudders* Cats.
@@scoutart1508 Nope, 👎 not for me. I have better taste in movies.
I once said that the Cats movie should've been animated and someone actually dared to ask, "Wouldn't that be disrespectful?"
Um, no. The version we were stuck with is disrespectful.
Why didn't they go to a different animation studio?!
TS Eliot said he didn't want his characters to be viewed as 'cute pussycats', which is why he refused to let Disney adapt his poems.
@@MalescoM it seem like Elliot Made A Wrong Choice Because Look What Hooper Made To His Poem .
@@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 In the words of the Grail Knight in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: "He chose poorly."
@@katiebutler9927 if elliot still alive and watch cats , he probably upset .
@@mustakim7876 Yeah, pretty much. He'd be scared, horrified and disgusted.
How make an animated cats adaptation work? Simple: divide the musical into animated shorts that has their own self contained plot, but add something small that connects all the shorts together.
Or Make It Feature Length With Victoria Meet Big Obstacle And Friend Along The Way To Go To The Ball . But The Villain Storm The Ball Saying He Was The Best Out Of This Cats And Order His Cats Minion To Cause Chaos In The Ball . But In The End The Good One Win .
Thats already what it is, lol.
@@TECfan1 yeah. Just have each music number be a short or episode of a tv show.
@@TECfan1 but i want it more epic and instead of CGI , The Cats Will Be a Costume .
@@Shadamyfan-rs8xc I feel like any adaption, television or film, is unnecessary. Just watch the 90s movie or the play.
Dear AniMat,
I hope that you're well. I am a subscriber of your channel from Australia.
I loved your singing performance at the beginning and your lines during 15:22-15:30 "WHAT THE FRIDGE IS THAT?!"
I hope you keep well during this terrible pandemic.
Love,
Bevan Borges.
15:22 - 15:31
ME = OH HELL NO
Anyone else think this film would’ve been better off animated in the style of the Disney Renaissance movies like Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King?
Yeah . Our The Right should Be Goes To Universal And Wait Until Les Miserables Released .
And maybe Animated by DreamWorks Animation?
It goes to show that the movie behind the scenes is more interesting than the film itself!
I'm hoping Universal's movie adaptation of Wicked won't have the same fate as Cats especially if they learned what not to do in a musical adaptation. I mean it really shouldn't be hard to mess up doing an adaptation about the Witch's side of the story is especially in the visuals department given that it's freaking Oz we're talking about here.
+kaijuguy19
Trust me. If there's one thing I know, _Cats_ will be a *big* lesson for Universal.
@@matthewmoran5297 I dunno....if there's one thing I'VE learnt.....it's that these movie companies never learn their lessons.....EVER. They keep chucking out stinkers. And they will keep ruining anything based off of books, anime, manga, comics, Broadway stage shows and cartoons.....yayyy....Hollywood.....oh and sequels they will ruin sequels. I forgot that.
Melodyofthesea78 Meh debatable
HOLLYWOOD IS A TRAVESTY NOWADAYS
@@scoutart1508 THE ONLY TIME I TRUST HOLLYWOOD IS PIXAR AND WES ANDERSON AND GRETA GERWIG .
They should've made Cats an animated film, it would've saved Universal so much grief (and money) in the long run.
But there is one crucial thing
The Story
How Can They Make "Cats" When The Musical Lack A Stories .
@@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 I'm sure someone could've pulled something together, for every whackjob who has no idea what they're doing there someone level-headed who could figure out how to fix the lack of a story.
@@spmscout but if they fix It , they will sacrifice the musical story (because like i said before , the story is lacking and suck) , and they need to found new Stories While Kepping The Spirit Of The Original Is Hell Insanity .
Let’s make a History of Imagi Animation Studios so we can figure out why Astro Boy sank the studio.
I'm Listening
Good choice!
They were going to make a legend of zelda movie but nintendo shot the pitch down.
CONTROVERSIAL TAKE COMING:
I hope Tom Hooper finds a way to redeem himself after this film. I think he's a exceptional talent and I can see where he was at least trying. I think with the whole news about him during post-production came from him not being the most tech-savvy of people and especially given the first trailer's release, the amount pressure placed on him to meet audiences demands and reach the Holiday deadline Universal was persisting on might have taken a toll on him; I mean he literally wrapped the film up 36 hours before the premiere. I understand it's not a excuse to be condescending towards employees, but I think he never meant to come off that way, perfectionism and stress don't go hand in hand, after all. What I hope for is that people don’t hold "Cats" against Tom to the point that he can’t grow as both a director and a person. He's totally far from the scum of entertainment (ie. Bryan Singer, Brett Ratner, Harvey Weinstien, John Kricfalusi) and even mentioned about doing a smaller and less spectacle-heavy project post-Cats (after this whole pandemic dies down); which I think is the right move for him, personally speaking.
From what I've seen and heard about Tom is that he's a perfectionist, yet a very modest guy. He's always put's his cast and crew first, displays great amount professionalism on set, and even if he comes of as stern, it mostly due to wanting everybody to give it their all; Not to mention the respectfulness he presents in interviews and fan-encounters and the amount of care he has for certain social issues. Sure, he may have been a little unjust to the VFX department, but it's nothing like the amount of shit Weinstien, Ratner, Kricfalusi, and Singer pull that's beyond redemption. (ie. physically threatening others, not showing up on set, grooming women/minors into sexual relationships); again we can't hold this fiasco against Tom so much so that we're willing to believe he won't learn anything from his missteps, FILMMAKERS ARE PEOPLE, NOT HACKS.
I will end this with a quote from Joaquin Phoenix: " We’re at our best is when we support each other. Not when we cancel each other out for past mistakes but when we help each other to grow, when we educate each other, when we guide each other toward redemption: That is the best of humanity.” @ElectricDragon505
Tom Hooper is a great director. He directed The King's Speech and Les Miserables which were both masterpieces (Les Miserables was soooo underrated) but I feel bad for him that the studio dragged him into this (Cats)
@@MrLopez2004-t9x He said that he was huge fan of the original stage show and saw it when he was 8. So there was a sense of connection and drive within him, as apposed being roped into it.
You could all do with watching Sideway's music theory type videos on this and Les Mis... Heck even Nostalgia Critic tore into Les Mis with valid points about the singing which Sideways explained more on. You're all focusing on the visuals when you should be listening to and looking at the music. Hooper does this weird thing of letting the actors do what they want on set, they sing whatever pitch they want with whatever timing they want. It sounds good in theory, letting the actors express themselves as they're supposed to do, but it never sounds right and it's a nightmare for an entire orchestra being forced to change up the speed and pitch with every whim the actors have. Even if he does respect his actors and crew it certainly didnt extend to 'lesser' members like musicians and the visual effects people since that quote mentioned in this video came from the special effects crew who said they werent even allowed to talk in conferences and he constantly talked to them like they were garbage. Just because he doesnt groom people or physically abuse them (as far as we know) it doesnt make verbal abuse okay or him a saint. Also I dont just hold Cats against him, I also hold the insanity he inflicted on Les Mis and every shallow Oscar grab against him too.
But honestly the music is the worst thing, with Cats they were singing and dancing to a random mix of recorded music, recorded singing, and very rarely a beat. That's why if you watch it they dont move in time at all since they're listening to all sorts of different things that cut in and out. You can actually see when what they're listening to changes. The only song that was kept to a beat was the railway one due to the tapping, that's the only song that's on time and it shows. Plus the entire point and heart of the original show was torn out, (yes there was a story in the subtext) again it's explained really well in Sideway's video. Long story short looking at his actions and not his words he seems like a pretentious twat who thinks he's Gods gift to musicals when he doesnt have a clue. This, the Kings Speech and Les Mis were all just Oscar fodder, they hit the points for that (or at least tried) and that was all. They arent pushing any boundaries and are barely art, unless you count paint by numbers, even then he's not sticking to the needed lines... Besides, Les Mis fans are so rabid about the franchise from my experience you could stick a cat yowling in a box, slap a label with Les Mis on the side and they'd love it automatically... I really dont get that one...
Could Cats be the next Rocky Horror Picture Show having midnight showings with audience participation such as dressing up as cats, singing the songs and probably dancing in the aisles. I would definitely go see that.
larrylemson maybe in the same way we view the room where we laugh at how absurd it is but not like Rocky Horror were you could appreciate what went into it
Rocky Horror Picture Show had an actual plot. An intentionally ridiculous and campy plot, but it existed.
I... Wouldn't mind it actually
@@hanimated1574 ........
How about both? We can diss it, while having fun singing along
The original idea of having the movie containing hand-drawn animation with miniature sets, to me, would've been very interesting and ambitious. Would've been amazing rather than having hand-drawn characters in hand-painted or computer-generated environments.
Very fascinating look into the production of the 2019 film adaptation. From what you previously shared about the behind the scenes story in a few episodes of your podcast, AniMat's Crazy Cartoon Cast of how director Tom Hooper treated the cast and special effect artist, it really shows he was the wrong person to direct the movie. And because of how the stories of how harsh he was during production is out to the public and the reception of the final film, it shows his reputation is now ruined and it looks like this film will most likely be the last movie based on a Broadway musical he'll ever direct. One thing that has got me worried with the reputation of both Tom Hooper and the film is that it might drastically affect his first musical film adaptation Les Miserables, where people and critics loved it back when it was released 8 years ago, but might change their minds about it and hate it as much as the 2019 Cats due to Tom Hooper's reputation being ruined.
Well thank goodness Disney went with the "film capture" method with Hamilton like the 1998 Cats, instead of directly adapting it. Let's just hope that if the "movie" does well they won't choose to go down the same route.
I’m pretty sure cats is a example of what Disney could do but isn’t.
There's only one reason this movie exists: 💰 💰 💰
And ironically, it was the reverse effect
‘You know, that sounds like it’s not gonna translate super well to film, and maybe it exists in the right medium right now and we don’t have to force it. We can just let the art be-‘
‘The musical made $4.5 BILLION!!!!’
‘I mean we have to squeeze a movie out of that, for sure!’
‘I thought so, too!’
@@TF2Fan101 lol
@@deanfalkyn yep
Tom Hulce Do you get the reference?
Cats makes me not want to believe.
This movie is super terrible and bad that it actually makes and of the Top-Cat theaterical movies and even The Cat in the Hat live action movie look entertaining,good and funny!
THAT IS RIGHT, I FREAKING WENT THERE YOU FOOLS!
At least Cat in the Hat didn't look as naked
@@mysryuza That is ture.
The Cat in Hat movie looks like James Cameron's Titanic compared to this CATastrophe.
@@katiebutler9927 Pun intended!
@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 Indeed.
The part where you said that production of the cgi was an absolute he'll and that Tom Hooper was a tyrant reminds me of the production of Sausage Party.
Fanboy flicks said that ever since this movie came out, only bad things have happened. I think this movie is from hell and unleashed its unholy forces on our mortal world.
I’m going crazy.
A million points for using one of my favorite clips from The Critic in the video
0:13 Mat, get out of the screen, I'm trying to watch cats! 😋
Yesterday December 20th 2019. A date which will live in infamy. Movie theaters gores around the world were suddenly and deliberately attacked by the movie adaptation of the Broadway musical cats.
From Les Miserables To "An Demonic Looking Cats" . Yeah I Think It Should Be Animated Or Just Throw It To Trash Can
Honestly the movie was attacked far more brutally than the theaters it was shown in.
I thankfully saw Spies In Disguise instead of this crap
The Cats Movie: Suffered a production nightmare, had a trailer with a almost 3:1 dislike to like ratio, and became a box office and critical bomb, but then becomes the new The Room and becomes popular.
The Cats Movie: I didn't hear no bell.
6:11-Not to mention he produced and made his own animated series for Warner Bros. called Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs,Pinky & The Brain(and the infamous Pinky,Elmyra,and The Brain),and Freakazoid
22:10-22:38 Here’s some more “glowing” reviews:
“My eyes are burning. Oh god, my eyes.”
-Boston Globe
“Cats is the worst thing to happen to cats since dogs.”
-The Beat
“Can you make a movie so bad that the Academy takes back your Best Director Oscar?”
-Collider
I can keep going. There’s just so many of them.
The other reason is TS Elliot didn’t want the cats to look like cutesy Disney kittens.
It's awesome to find out how adaptation was not the spectacle in the "moonlight" that it could've been. Another informative and interesting video. Keep it up!
Sticks and stones can break your bones but cats will haunt your dreams
Dame Judi Dench described her costume as being "like five foxes fucking on my back".
Thanks! Now I suddenly need an Animat Barbershop Quartet.
The thing about the cgi is... TECHNICALLY, it looks great for a lot of the 'finished' version of the movie. Like, the fur looks very real, and the lighting is fantastic especially considering all the vibrant multi-colored lighting on the sets. But the human faces and the unfinished bits and the glitches and the WEIRD stuff the vfx artists were forced to make the characters do are SO DISTRACTING that you don't notice that the cgi is often, technically, actually pretty impressive
Technically impressive, actually awful means everyone who isn't technically proficient just noticed the awful.
I feel bad for the technicians and the musicians. Tom Hooper doesn't seem to respect anyone who isn't a visual presence.
You will believe........
That you are on drugs with this atrocity.
I was just about to suggest looking at Lindsey Ellis’s video on the movie until I saw her video is one of your sources; never mind; but I guess her “anonymous” source about the effects were in fact true :(
9:46 It probably didn't hurt that every Marvel fan's favorite mutant, Hugh Jackman, was in the lead role.
Never seen it but I never will looks horrible. At least sonic was great
Ps if this was an animated film it would of worked MUCH better
Why didn't they turn it into an animated film??
That would've made the film even better than ever.
I really wanted a playmobil the movie editorial.
Hey me too, so I can figuratively ROAST Daniel Radcliffe more and make fun of him over it. Which is ironic since I have been crushing in him since Chamber of Secrets.
I love the cats
Because of Disney "Everybody Wants To Be A Cat".
Because of Universal Nobody Wants To Be A Cat Anymore!
do we have to suffer more of this nightmare?! O.O
It’s the longest running musical in Japan haha...(if it’s not continuous one then it’s around La Mancha, Les Mis, Miss Saigon, Phantom I believe)
The leason is that don’t make gritty realistic musicals that aren’t suppose to be gritty and realistic it’s suppose to be idealistic. Musicals are like animated films because you have to be careful with them because bringing a medium especially musicals is hard to do on screen. Chicago did it gracefully also other good musicals. Watch Lindsey Ellis’s video for more detail
it shouldn't have been that hard for the studio to make them ACTUAL cats
23:41 HELL YEAH! 🤘
But in all seriousness, this is one hell of a story... and that opening number was totally unexpected. Lol
I feel sorry for anybody who saw Cats in THEATERS
Did you see it?
Tom Hulce No
E True
I did lol :’)
Does anyone think dreamworks or illumination should’ve made an animated adaptation of cats?
What About Disney
No because Cats doesn't have enough fart or poo joke and neither dreamworks or Illumination believe in whimsy as a means for entertaining children. The cats don't have cell phones or say dude or sing pop.
McKenzie Eby I bet if either of those studios did their own adaptation of cats, they probably would add in toilet humour and modern references.
@@georgerobertson7010 do you think disney can make it?
Tom Hulce It very possible, but Disney animation and Pixar would need a good story. Even their mediocre ones have something you can follow. Cats would be like defusing a timebomb for them.
...whoa. ...and I thought Michael Crawford was a great singer.
I honestly never heard of him before at all.
It's not that he's bad. His skills are just more in rock/metal.
@@genera1013 Oh, okay
I’ve hoped you’d cover this!
Admit it, Taylor was nominated for the kids choice awards as best actress is all because she was the only good thing about the movie, also i liked her song more than the others
Actually For Me Taylor Perfomance In Cats Is Sucked , But The Only Good Thing In Cats Is J-Hud Perfomance .
Will I watch Sonic the Hedgehog? No. Will I watch the sequel if Paramount decide to make it? Maybe, it depends on the trailer.
Cats was the first musical I’ve ever seen and it was as a trailer for the 1998 movie and it made me want to be a theatre kid. The 2019 movie just killed it
24:54 I think that joke was more towards the director Tom Hooper.
I honestly liked the attempt, even though it completely fell apart, and would call it a ‘handsome start.’ I want to see other filmmakers take a crack at it. Even if some of them fail, we can still have fun with the ‘Cats Movie Challenge.’
Reference to Tony Goldmark?
It could have been better if Cats was animated.
I think I'd have mixed opinions on this film if I saw it, especially after seeing Maggie Mae Fish's video on Cats & T.S. Eliot's work (which was the basis for the musical AND the film).
Never has it felt more appropriate that "Grizabella" quotes the Dies irae plainchant.
I'm really looking forward to Disney's Robin Hood remake, because if they somehow achieve the realistic animal-human hybrid feel of the various animals, without dipping into the uncanny valley, then Cats has even less of an excuse to look so godawful.
I'd love for them to do something similar with The Wind In The Willows...only adapting the entire novel instead of just the parts with Mr. Toad.
Oh Hell No , Im Not Looking Foward For Disney Remake Of Robin Hood Because After Cats And Lion King , I Do Not Trust Photorealistic CGI EVER AGAIN So Get That Robin Hood Remake Out Of My Face RIGHT NOW !
And nothing of value was lost!
I'd give Cats the Oscar bait five stars.
Triple great Great GREAT AniMat 👍👍👍
boy! do I wish Don Bluth would make this CATS movie!
I don't usually do this, but I'm telling my kids that this movie caused the inferno that is 2020.
Here’s some ideas for your next history of
Spongebob squarepants
Doogal
Vanguard animation
Eight Crazy Nights
Robert Zemekis motion capture company
Nine lives 2016
Ice age franchise
LTM movie reviews Harrison and playmobil the movie!
He already did the first two, as well as the last one.
I think Baz Luhrman would have been a better choice as director. His editing may be all over the place, but he is good a tanking camp enjoyable and has a good eye for art design and costumes. Especially since his films have won Oscars for production design and costumes.
Or Even Steven Spielberg Because He Made The Upcoming West Side Story
His editing is crazy, but like with the Great Gatsby. He was able to capture the romanticizing of the 20’s but also show off the darker side of it.
@@elijahwatson3474 it is the same in Moulin Rouge, but I works to create a fun and crazy atmosphere that the viewer would get lost in the chaos.
@@KaeMcSpadden i actually want wes anderson .
M.Syauqi Abdurahman he could work too, he has a good eye for style.
So the cats movie has reach the high level of uglyness.
Worse than the cat in a hat live action movie & the first look of the sonic movie
Me: the musical is not me but it is interesting. Want to do crazy as in Willaboughbys next time
Curiosity killed these cats and satisfaction ain't there to bring them back.
It's a little premature to proclaim the fall of the movie musical yet, isn't it? In The Heights is still due (though delayed until next year) and looks promising. Then there's Spielberg's West Side Story coming up in December, and the Wicked movie still in the pipeline (though production hasn't started).
But Spielberg's Version Will More To The Stage Rather The Original Movie . But Atleast West Side Story Isn't An Animal Story Like That Demonic Cats Movie .
In The Heights Will Be Good Because It's
LIN MANUEL MIRANDA
I think Cats Is just fell at the wrong hand
25:10 Oh, come now, I'm sure they are just making fun of the films CGI effects, not the CGI effects artists themselves. I mean, ok, I don't like James Cordin either (he was the Hand Emoji and Peter Rabbit fuckers after all XD) but I'm pretty sure the joke was towards the movie, not the people in the industry itself.
Hooper had no idea what catnip is?
I don't know if it's intended or not, ut that singing is just like in the movie
I bet Thomas Hooper lives in "fear" of what he's created.
Thankfully, In the Heights came out and made things a bit better.
13:54 In the Heist? Is that a parody of In the Heights, but with a jewel or something that needs to be stolen?
Matt has always been pretty bad with pronunciations.
14:50 I've owned cats since I was a kid, and I didn't know what catnip was until my late teens.
Poor James Corden. Always ending up in bad films.
Hopefully He Will Be Found A Justice With A Good Movies .
Let's hope he fired his agent. I hope all the actors involved in this cinematic train wreck fired their agents.
I actually do enjoy James Corden but damn he always ends up in terrible films
Wow you sing well!
Think you can also go into the full history of how The Animal, The Hot Chick, Son of The Mask, America Ultra, The spy Who Dumped Me, Playing With Fire and Like A Boss just as awful as Cats sometime?
This movie is SSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD and terrible at the same time that it makes the Cat in the Hat live action movie look good to watch.
Um, you can know what a cat is and what not and still not know what catnip is
16:21 It's even more horrifying.
Tom Hooper's Angelic 2 the Core
The Virigin CATS and The Chad Sonic
22:00 Actually, the first movie to get patched while in theaters to my knowledge was Show Dogs as the had to edit out one joke that was just too adult in it. The joke involved a guy grabbing a dogs testicles. Yeah, I don't know what that was doing in a movie aimed at young kids.
show dogs was for kids? it looked more/less like an adult comedy to me.
Probably the very first film to have any "patch" was probably the original Aladdin, where they had to edit two of Robin Williams' lines because they managed to slip by the radar a bit *too* obviously.
Here's to a new life as a cult classic. How fucking ironic.
This is an amazing jellicle video! I really liked the *jellicle* singing and the jellicle-- wait what the hell?
What is jellicle anyway? GAAAAAAAAAAAH I keep saying jellicle, I need a jellicle from you! Wait...........oh my god.............
Jellicle is in my brain, it's in my heart and lungs, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
16:27 Oh god those look even worse.
its like following a solution to a math problem in a history test
I remember one of the lyrics that Taylor Swift said in her song "Look what you made me do". She said "I'll be the actress starting in your bad dreams."
That song kinda predicted the future. Kinda scary if you ask me.
If the film Rock & Rule ever had a live adaptation, these designs would just fit right in.
He has a nice voice
1:17
kiss
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