The History of Disney’s Craziest Premiere: The Pinocchio Incident
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2023
- How eleven little people turned a family-friendly premiere into one of the most unforgettable drunken parties in New York City
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#Disney #Pinocchio #DisneyHistory - Фільми й анімація
Rafiki: “Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it you can either run from it, or learn from it.”
Alice: “It’s no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then.”
@@2purpleshadows901 she never said that
@@arbytv5139 Look up ‘Disney Alice past’.
This story is absolutely BONKERS! The could've saved themselves the trouble and just offered these people water, soda, sandwiches and chips. If this happened today, someone at Disney definitely would've gotten fired. Glad you shared this story Mat
Or just given them breaks in between standing on the roof and entertaining crowds.
I know 🤥😱🤭😱🥴
Or you could give them tea. Sweet or otherwise.
Someone at Disney would only be fired if they didn't charge 10$ for a water. sandwich and chips? Better take out that second mortgage.
I feel so bad for those little people that was abusive to serve them nothing but alcohol which dehydrates you in the summer
They went through all of that, only for Pinocchio to be a box office bomb. That's the real irony
The Disney company is far too cowardly to celebrate their CRAZY history
Okay, there may be a few small mistakes I made in the video that I want to quickly correct here.
1. Walt Disney may have attended in more premieres to his movies than just Snow White and Mary Poppins, including Bambi. Still, it was relatively rare to see him show up during those events.
2. The Wizard of Oz was not a box office success on its initial release. The movie itself didn't become profitable until its 1949 re-release. However, it still contributed to the little people phenomenon at the time with the influence of the Munchkins.
Just wanted to make these clarifications and apologize for any little inaccuracies in the video. I still hope you enjoyed it because this was still something I've worked hard on and was very excited to get back to making more history videos again.
It’s okay Mat, you know I’m the idiot that didn’t tell you wizard of Oz was a box office flop. I’m not a miracle worker I’m more like the witch of the west anyway. Lol
It’s okay. We all make mistakes. I’m still waiting for the playmobil: the movie editorial video.
Can you please review Rock Dog Please.
Review Rock Dog 2017 please.
It’s completely fine! Like Princess said, everyone makes mistakes. I love your history videos and wanna see more; how about one on the lost-then-found animated film Quantum Quest: A Cassini Space Odyssey?
WHO GIVES ALCOHOL TO SMALL PEOPLE DRESSED AS PINOCCHIO?! The STORY IS INSANE!
That was definitely one of the most insane moments in Disney marketing
You know considering that Steve Rogers did understood the reference to flying monkeys to the Wizard of Oz. Do you think he might have went to the opening day premiere of Pinocchio and witness that madness?
I kinda wish that those antics could have been recorded on camera, in a dark and twisted sort of way. Who doesn't wanna see 11 drunk naked little folks cussing and belching at the people of Manhattan Island while playing craps 😂
i feel so bad for those drunk castmembers, hot ass day, gross costumes, nothing but alcohol and not a crum of food
Hearing this story, suddenly that scene in Dumbo with the clowns getting rowdy with champagne and Dumbo and Timothy accidentally getting drunk when consuming some of it hits differently now. I think we now know the REAL source of inspiration for the clowns… not the animators going on strike, but the little people who were hired to dress as Pinocchio at the premiere.
Or it could be one of the inspirations
Further, Disney have never acknowledged this incident.
I wonder why.
My God, even before everyone saw the movie for the first time, the little people metaphorically turned into donkeys after drinking alcohol.
As SOON as I heard alcohol was involved, I KNEW things were gonna get crazy. 🤣🤣
And the moral of this story is, do not hire little people to dress around in costumes to promote a movie on the day of its premiere and not give them a lunch with drinks that have alcohol.
Or just... Y'know... Treat your employees well and with respect. :P
@@thestripedmenace As someone who works at Safeway, that is how I am being treated. With respect and care.
I remember when I was a baby, we went to see a re-release of “Pinocchio” in 1978 with a holiday short “The Small One” which was a new Christmas cartoon. Both of them were good, and by the time when “Pinocchio” was re-released, no alcohol, no drugs, no kidnapping, nothing. That was at the time disco was at its peak.
That’s marvelous! Fun fact: the small one short film was directed by Don bluth.
But during that same year, the Shah of Iran was overthrown in favor of an Islamic Republic. This is coming from someone who has seen the movie, Persepolis.
0:37
I love how Walt is just standing there like "Ugh... I'm so f_cking tired" before realizing he's being recorded and smiles at the camera
The movie scared the hell out of me when I was a kid, the Pleasure Island and Monstro scenes especially, I’d have recurring nightmares of me, my siblings, and cousins being turned into donkeys and shipped off in crates.
As you can tell that “Pinocchio” does contain nightmare fuels. As a little baby since I saw this back in late 1978 when “Pinocchio” was re-released, it had a scary atmosphere and that scared me since I was a wee one. I remember when this movie was shown in a theater during Christmas time along with “The Small One” as an animated short by Don Bluth. “The Small One” was a great holiday short from the start, and then it went to “Pinocchio” and it was fine, but no incidents were made throughout the whole movie, and no fighting at all. Just the audience to keep calm.
Now THAT'S great filmmaking. 👍
Disney Pinocchio fun facts: Pleasure Island was once known as "Bogeyland," comparable to "Sillyland." Historian JB Kaufman explains the original thought process, saying, "They were thinking, what would this place be like? A place all the kids could do things they weren’t allowed to do elsewhere." Carney also sheds light on some of the darker themes in Pleasure Island, like when the kids become donkeys. "For every action, there is a penalty. It’s very dark if you think about it...Walt didn’t really think animated films were for kids... [they're] really for everybody," he says. And there's more where that came from
The wave effects took massive amounts of strategy. Kaufman says "black, the negative, was exposed to represent the light patterns you’d see on the floor of the ocean." Then, for the waves, "blue construction paper and shading was done individually for each frame," he explains. There's also a multiplane effect, "where the tone of the water would be different in the foreground than it was in the background." He guesses about six animators worked on that scene alone, which is on screen for just over four seconds.
America, Japan, Israel and Australia are far better countries than stinky ass North Korea!
This story is one of those things where you wouldn’t be surprised if it either was or wasn’t real.
We know the Pinocchios were real, and it wouldn’t surprise me that people could drink on the job back then.
If I worked at Disney, I would suggest we made a film about this instead of the live action remake...
I thought another film about the story of making a Disney film would be nice, like how "Saving Mr. Banks" was the story of how Mary Poppins was written.
Agreed
There’s so much you just weren’t able to fit into your Animation Lookback video for the sake of time.
But it makes you wonder why they never saw how this could backfire.
Like Bruno, it's best not to talk about it.
There are some very serious doubts as to the actual story; one newspaper reported that Disney had "Hired a bunch of Toughs from Hell's Kitchen" to play Pinocchio, and they just got bored "playing" and decided to take off their costumes (not their clothes) and play craps on the marquee instead. Not as funny, but sounds like something that could happen.
The Dwarf story comes from David Niven's memoirs; titled "Bring on the Empty Horses." he also referred to it in a 1975 interview.
This is how he recounts it in the book:
"Walt Disney's publicity department had their problems too. For the opening of Pinocchio in New York it was decided to hire eleven midgets, dress them in Pinocchio costumes and have them gambol about on top of the theater marquee on opening day. Food and light refreshments in the shape of a couple of quarts of liquor was passed up to the marquee top at lunch time, and by three o'clock in the afternoon a happy crowd in Times Square was treated to the spectacle of eleven stark naked midgets belching loudly and enjoying a crap game on the marquee. Police with ladders removed the players in pillow cases."
Niven had a well-deserved reputation as a raconteur and storyteller; exaggeration was a constant theme in most of his tales of Hollywood. Not out of any malice--just a desire to "tell a good Story." But very likely this was in fact a story.
I can find NO definitive statements that anything of the sort ever happened. However, the story of the Hell's Kitchen actors does appear in several newspapers of the time.
He did mention the book in the video though and quoted it?
We need a film about this 😂😂😂
Well I'd imagine Disney won't be willing to give permission to anyone to make a movie based on this, but I'd imagine someone making a movie inspired by this.
When animat does a better job of teaching not to do alcohol better than any psa could
11:20 WHAT??? OH NOO!!! PILLOW CASES???? RUN FOR YOUR LIVES PEOPLE THEY ARE DANGEROUS, AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could just imagine the chaos and sheer horror of the parents as there kids kept saying “mommy look little naked dancing people!”
Even back then Pinocchio caused a lot of activity XD
Wow! Now I see one of the reasons why Disney use animatronic for small peoples.
Until AniMat showed the picture of the little people on the roof of the theater I was struggling to believe this story really happened.
4:21 Wizard of Oz actually was not a box office hit when it first came out.
18:16 What Pinocchio does at the end is a wise decision. This story is one of the many reasons why I feel sympathy for people with dwarfism and why I will never drink alcohol.
Meanwhile coachman is waiting to turn them into donkies
0:59 Ah yes, and there's my sleep paralysis demon and his wife 💀. Seriously, those old costumes of the Fab Five will ALWAYS be cursed nightmare fuel to me. And coincidentally, Guillermo del Toro's version of Pinocchio also had its premiere in NYC! But that aside, as a New Yorker, I always appreciate when people talk about the rich and unique history of NYC. It's definitely not a perfect city, but that doesn't change the fact its history makes the city stand out! Another bit of NYC history that I like to talk about: why Houston Street is pronounced HOW-stun street.
Houston in Texas was named after Sam Houston, who was the seventh governor of Texas. While Houston Street in Manhattan was named after William Houstoun (yes, with another u), who was delegate to the Continental Congress for the Province of Georgia and later the State of Georgia to the United States Constitutional Convention in 1787. However, being a Revolutionary War patriot wasn't what got the street named after him, but rather who he married. The land that's now the Lower East Side and SoHo was once a farm owned by the Bayards. William married Mary Bayard. Her father decided to turn the western part of the farm (now SoHo) into a grid. They were named after Revolutionary War generals, but Mary wanted one named after William (who wasn't a general) just because.
You scared the sh*t out of me with that tense moment
Man did anyone ever just think I dont HAVe SOME FREAKING WATER BOTTLES HANDY???
As a person with dwarfism who is a big fan of Disney - this is one of my favorite facts to pull out when I am talking to someone
Wow! that's the most shocking story I have ever heard Animat!
This does a better job than any PSA to say that I shouldn’t drink.
Thank goodness that i don't drink alcohol since i am a clean guy. Hope this incident never again
"I don’t alcohol"
@@kenyilopez3818 Thanks for letting me know
Some how in 1941 It was the first Disney Moviet to win 2 competitive Oscars for both Maui. Topics
You do make a good point; those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it. Try explaining that to the GOP, and like you said, they'll call you "woke" and other derogatory terms.
WOW! I heard some crazy stories about The Walt Disney Company before, but this story just doesn't take the cake, it takes the whole bakery! 🤯
Why would they give alcohol? To little people
I wanted to say thanks for having me help with this project. It was a lot of fun to help with the research. 😊
I legit forgot that this story happened a while back.
and i though that the snow white party was crazy LOL
Ayo!?
At least they weren't doing cocaine.
they need to make this into a movie
A modern Pinocchio video that DOESN’T have about half of it being where you bash on the remake? I never thought I’d see the day!
Before the Pinocchio trilogy, there was this XD
Your first!
Why did they only had alcohol?
I feel like it might not have happened. Giving people alcohol instead of water feels like one of the stupidest mistakes a company could make. That and alcohol is more expensive than water. So if you’re trying to save money, you would give someone plain water.
Wow im glad you beated defuntland on this one
Disney gone *WILD*
I like seeing the little moment before Walt smiles. A little glimpse of him not being "on".
And this is manly why I don’t drink alcoholic drinks.
Funny thing is the first time I ever heard about this story was about 2 weeks ago, when I saw that photo of the Pinocchios on the marquee
What I don't get is why they didn't have any water. I mean don't movie theaters have drinking fountains
I never heard of this before until now.
When Woke people CAN recognize that the differences in others are Harmless I'll be more accepting of them.
Currently I see far too many people who will stand on a soap box and speak out against a wrong and then the moment that the world isn't watching them they will cut loose with some of the most hatful words and most violent actions and they feel justified in this because the person they are attacking is bad in there minds.
Woke people also, while wanting good things, will fail to consider the consequences of what they are asking for. They ask for things that SOUND good on the surface. But when you look at it deep down, are not good.
They also frequently put all there effort in attacking some thing that is not the cause of the problem and asking for a solution that will not resolve the issue.
Or they will offten place the very same punishment on others that they them selves just fought against.
This just reminded me to actually go watch ur Disney history vids
This story is... Is really something.
Despite a massive box office bomb during it's initial release, and it’s crazy premiere incident, in my heart, Pinocchio is better than Snow White, as if, it was artistic and technical groundbreaking of it's time, and felt that the story and character development looked more complex than Snow White's.
This is why Pinocchio is always be my favorite movie from Disney Animated Canon, and yes, I respect y'all's opinions about this movie.
I remember seeing the first Disney film as a baby, it was back in 1978 when “Pinocchio” was re-released, and it includes a holiday short called “The Small One”, which was animated by Don Bluth. As for the rest of the movie, no incident were made during the reissue. That was 1978 when disco was at its peak in popularity, and Studio 54 was on their dance floors.
@@Musicradio77Network I think my first one was The Lion King when I was a toddler. It is one of the best films ever in the Disney animated canon and one of my favorites.
Why did it bomb so bad??
@@sabrinamiller3671 In case you don't know, probably because you're young, no offense, but the reason why Pinocchio flopped because Asian and European market closed due to World War II, and Pinocchio's budget was just bigger than Snow White's at somewhere at 2.2 million dollars.
As a kid when watching Animation Lookback of WDAS, I didn't understand either that why movies like Pinocchio, Fantasia and Bambi flopped.
But now I completely understand.
And, because of the pandemic, I hate the fact films like Raya and the Last Dragon, Encanto and Strange World flopped the same way as the 1940s films. Okay, maybe Raya and Encanto performed somewhere at $200 million, but Strange World hit hard.
I get it, history can repeated itself, but still.
You should make a video about Bobby Driscoll
17:06: Oh hai Duke!
Huh, wow, this was a very interesting Story, very unexpected and not so much at the same time,
I wonder what other Hidden Stories there is?
Walt (after the premire): WHO DID IT??? WHY'D THEY DO IT??
Exactly 🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫🤥😵💫
Another crazy story I know is when they sent an ambassador to Russia, while communism was a thing without a visa, and she was put under armed guard for hours thinking she was gonna get oofed off bc Disney refused to have the Russian president at their park
To think you would've gotten that info from Disney Dan, He actually made a whole video of that incident too. Then again to give you credit, I felt like I learn more about alcohol then I did in science class. To say In your words (With a few alterations) "I don't know about you, but your video here does a better job then any school campaign to tell me I should never Drink." But it goes to show the 40s were really the time period when people did whatever they want, racist jokes, humor that are more outdated then funny, and consume whatever they like.
FATHER, when can I leave to be on my own? I've got the whole world to see!
This vid made me learn to never mess with people that are shorter and should appreciate the great things they could do as actually people. In short, the towns people in 1939's Wizard of oz should probably never use the M word nowadays.
Also, I'll just do this instead - 18:16 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Where is the Event Organizer and the Food Supplier ?! Are they lack of them during the event ??
Ideas for future editorials
History of Frozen
History of Live-action Transformers
History of Sonic the Hedgehog movies
I'm a light drinker and a six foot tall person myself............but my god. My.........god. This sounds like one of the most insane premiere stories in history, even for one as beloved as Disney.
If I were alive at the time and went to that party, I would've brought water with me lol
Same.
Water and a sandwich
Give a lil whistle and always treat your people with more than beer!
Do more Animation History Videos! They are facinating!
I would have laughed if something like this happened for the live action remake had it been released in theaters.
The energy in this vid is a lot…
I actually heard about this already. It was a few years ago when I saw a much shorter video from Disney Dan about this topic. But you really knocked it out of the park, maybe because your video runs fifteen minutes longer than his video, you were able to add more information than he ever could about this.
I personality never drink alcohol 🍷.
I’m with you there
...huh.
...and yet, people wonder why Disney hated unions, even though a union could've prevented this.
As for David Niven, he's appeared in Candleshoe and No Deposit, No Return in the '70s. One of them's a good movie. Both are, depending on your tastes. (I had to watch 66 out of 77 live-action Disney films of the Dark Ages, because somebody had to, so we know when Disney got back on its feet. My answer is 1982, the year of Tron.)
Elf teach me I should stereotype little people like that
Me Before Watching: Why is Wee Man on the thumbnail?
Me After: Oh. Okay.
Yes! More history videos!
Adding that to the list of places I would go if I ever acquire a time machine...
This is why I never drink alcohol
Well, that's one piece of history that'll be difficult to forget.
But in all seriousness, that was a fascinating editorial and you do have a good point about why we shouldn't be prejudiced against people by their appearance.
This must've been quite a sight to see--LOL!!!
Yep alcohol. Causes nothing but problems.
Animat do the history of recycled animation in Disney
Thank goodness, another history video. If I didn't get one on time, I would've had to watch Family Guy
Now that is crazy. I guess real life can be stranger then fiction at time. Maybe they should've given them Water or even Soda instead of Alcohol. That way they would've been hyper instead of drunk and things probably would've been better.
Holy crap I had no idea about this, the way these little people were treated is just so frustrating as if they werent human beings
Shut up
Great Show! Love your style👍✨💙
I can't help it but I keep thinking about that scene in "A Christmas Story" during the parade when the flying monkeys from Wizard of Oz scurry around Mickey Mouse and leave him PO'ed...😂😆
the only thing that i hate about this video (outside of the discriminatory stuff) is the fact that u said the wizard of oz was a box office hit. it wasn't when it was originally released.
0:51 Dopey looks creepy as hell.
I actually heard all about this story in the Carthay Circle Restaurant at California Adventure. Which itself is named after the iconic golden age Hollywood theater where the premiere of Snow White took place.
Dude when did you hear the story!?
@@mlpdisneylover Last year.
Great video!
Disneys Pinnochio is a classic