Elladan and Elrohir, Twin Sons of Elrond - Epic Character Histories
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2022
- Elladan and Elrohir were the twin sons of Elrond and Celebrían, and from Rivendell to the very Black Gate of Mordor, they went forth side-by-side. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts on these brothers in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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Really wish that they had included these two in the movies, along with the great host of rangers.
In The Return of the King, when Aragorn is crowned and the elves comes, I think we see them standing next to Elrond. I could be wrong though.
Elladan and Elrohir are those siblings that look so similar, that they tend to mix their clothes without notice.
Loved to see a video regarding such overlooked characters, even though they aided in saving both Gondor and Middle-Earth.
It's a shame that they didn't get the chance to appear in the movie trilogy, and neither did Aragorn's fellow Dunedain.
I believe they where seen in the Extended Edition when making the sword. Or that was always my interpretation
I think they have. Look at the council of Elrond. There are 2 similar looking elfs next to Aragorn. And also next to Elrond in some scenes...
“This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them”.
Star Wars, Episode I
Must have been difficult growing up under their father’s shadow. Thank you for bringing them back into the light
Elrond had to do the same since his father was the one that initiated the defeat of morgoth and killed ancalagon the black
Wasn’t expecting this video these guys are almost forgotten about
Isn't it ironic that Tolkien never gave us much information about such active elves?
Lol that’s a great point 😂
We know everything about Elves who did little, and nothing about Elves that did a lot
*Edit: At least concerning the LOTR Elves, we knew a bunch about the Silmarillion Elves, no matter the size of their roles.
He had the normal men life span and not the Numenorian mate though he did{wrote} quite well and aplenty in his alloted time didnt he...
The high degree of aid that they actually gave the fellowship may well would have hindered the sense of urgency of the drama and slowed the narrative if Tolkien had described it in detail, making it more pedantic and less thrilling.
@@eldermillennial8330 that's fair. Though he could've at least given them their own appendix entries
I imagine that they would have stayed for as long as Arwen lived so there was always family should she need it.
I was about to write a comment on this. You have my exact thoughts. Sadly though, Arwen died alone at Cerin Amroth.
I imagine they stayed in Middle Earth until every last orc was slain.
@@glennross85legendary comment
That is a wonderful thought
@@ellerj641 not exactly alone because we know the exact time and manner of her passing" when the falling of the Mallory leaves but not yet spring" that's a vivid description of what was happening when she passed for someone who was supposed to be alone....
Bro those brothers were some of my favorite characters in LOTR: war in the North Game, as soon as I saw you upload this I got an immediate nostalgia trip
Elrond's sons make up just one of the many fascinating, potential stories in the Legendarium that tolkien simply never had the opportunity to flesh out in his lifetime. This being so, we can only speculate about them.
I may have posted this before, but I also suspect that they went West with their grandfather, and that the text suggests this: it is said, after all, that it was by the efforts of MEN that the last Orcs and Dragons were be done away with, and that suggests that they indeed left the last of this task to their human heirs, and moved on. And just as valid, I now realize, is your point about their wanting to go see their mother again after going to such pains both to rescue and to avenge her: it makes perfect sense.
I did consider that they might have parted from each other, with only one going West, in an echo of Elrond and Elros themselves. But that carries its own contradictions, especially with regard to their mother seeing them again (losing Arwen would have been hard enough for her), so I find it less likely.
I love hearing about the twins.. While there isn't much known maybe, I still love those 2! 💜 I imagine them staying elves, both of them
"Remember today little brother."
Couple of the most discreetly awesome characters. Always wondered how their relationship with their sister was; were they loving or annoying like normal brothers? Lol
We may not officially know what happened to them in the end but I'd like to think that they followed their father's/uncles example where one went into the undying lands and the other stayed to help the world of men.
A short series following their travels would b subtlety epic:)
Even though there’s no evidence for it, I choose to believe they were Middle Earth’s version of the Weasley twins; mischievous jokers who never had more fun than when finding ways to cause havoc for everyone else around them but fiercely determined and loyal to each other and their family right to the end.
So many elves fit the stereotype of being serious, dignified resplendent figures, whether arrogant or noble, that the idea of these two causing Elrond many headaches over the years is so amusing that I desperately want to believe it’s true. 😂
Well, identical twins in general do have reputations of being absolute terrors. Especially when growing up.
@@generaljimmies3429 Oh, their poor sister
@@spyrofrost9158 Oh, I think Arwin was fine. She's the little sister, cute and cuddly that two big brothers would more likely be looking out for than being mean to. Although, some little sisters can be real pains when they want to tag along with the big brother's adventures!
Sameee… I always imagine the twins and arwen are giving Elrond and Celebrian enough headaches when they grow up. Also I’d like to imagine that somehow, they also befriend with Legolas because they are (the twins, arwen, and legolas) considered as the youngest elf in ME. I know it’s not canon, it’s just fun to imagine some elfling have mischievous adventures together.
@@erikavalentina4940 If it weren't for the fact that Elrond was immortal, he probably would have had his "grey hairs" in LONG ago.
Excellently written and beautifully spoken, and such a welcome story for this first day of spring...
Two brothers born in the Third Age, and we get little information about their lives. I believe they would make a choice like their forebears, one would sail west and the other stay in Middle Earth. The last twin would be a valuable asset to Men and elves in the Fourth Age. With both being 3000 years old, no record of children is recorded in the legendarium.
Finally! Thank you! 💕
Personally, I love the idea of the Sons of Elrond hanging around for centuries into the Fourth Age just terrorizing whatever Orcs remained.
I don't even need for the intro ad to end before i like Men of the West videos. You can always bet its gonna be great.
I always thought the name Elrohir had something to do with the rochir - horse lord. Great story as always!
Ty for telling their story. I was sad they were left out of the movies. Another amazing video my friend
Love love love this video! I’ve been waiting so patiently for a video of these two. I really wish we had more on these two and I would have loved to know if they had chosen the same fate as Arwen or if they followed Elrond later on with Celeborn. I would have loved to see them with the Grey Company if they had been shown in the movies. Thanks for this video Yoystan!
I thoroughly enjoyed this upload. Thank you 💜
Very excited for a new video still working on catching up on years of previous content you've made really appreciate it all
It really is a shame we never got to see them in the Jackson films. I can understand why they were cut but still it's a shame.
I agree.
Thank you. Again you did not disappoint in finding little bits here and there in Tolkien's writings enabling us to hear a complete story on Elladan and Elrohir.
I think Elladan and Elrohir are the second most popular out of all the twins in the Legendarium, behind their Dad and Uncle!
Man, It would have been cool if these two were in the Movies, more other important Elves in the Movies only in the books!!!
Thanks, Mellon for your ECH on this twin set, Until *4 days later* The Greatest Friendships in the Legendarium, Marion Baggins Out!!!
Hey, the Amburussar are definitely contesting that No2 spot. (Elrond and Elros are solidly first though)
One of the best UA-cam channels here. Thank you again.
Tbh, I always forgot about the two, due to the limited lore around them, with the LOTRO game serving to have recently helped me to remember they existed and come to better appreciate them. My most reading-through of LotR afterwards was really enriched further by remembering this set of twins. They seem to have been inspired to some extent by Castor and Pollux from Greek Mythology. I must confess that talk of brothers fighting together against the darkness makes me think of my brothers and I, including my brother who has already 'gone west' so to speak, so this video and talk of these twins really moved me.
Really enjoyed this video as these two certainly deserve some loving and appreciation. Thanks so very much for this video Yoystan.
Love these videos guys; keep them coming.
More Tolkien characters I wish we had heard more about. I think they both went to Valinor. If they were still in Middle-Earth at the time of Aragorn's death, I think Arwen would have gone to see them if for no other reason than to say goodbye. But that's just my head canon.
Great video. Nicely done.
I like to think Elladan ended up leading a group of 40 thieves in the desert for a while...
Nice work dude
I've been waiting for this content..they were very interesting characters ..i wish i can see them in films ..
Like you, I think they would have ultimately gone over the Sea to be with their father and especially their mother, the latter of whom they had not seen in thousands of years.
There are two possible times in my opinion: (1) relatively soon - a few years - after Elrond himself left, perhaps when Celeborn finally forsook Middle Earth to sail to Valinor for the first time as he is one of their grandfathers, or (2) perhaps they stayed in Middle Earth just over 120 years to look out for their little sister Arwen, who had chosen the path of mortality in her life with Aragorn. Perhaps when he had died, and she lingered for a year before herself finally dying, they had no further reason to stay in Middle Earth and departed to join the others.
Wonderfully told, Sir.
cool vid Yoysten the twins of elrond are awesome and too underrated if you ask me they should've at least been mentioned in the films like Prince Imrahil should been
Amazing Vid!!!
Amazing video! I have a small observations, during the passing on the Path of the Dead I think it is stated that legolas was the only one not afraid of the spirits. I think this could indicate that brothers chose the fate fate of men as I doubt royal-blooded high elves would be more scared than a silvan elf.
I think I read some place that they eventually sailed west with Celeborn of Lothlorien.
I love how Tolkein depicts brotherhoods, especially Faramir and Boromir, I find brotherhood of Me and my brother similar to Middle Earth's and it pleases Me greatly.
I would love to see a video game with all the side characters like the twins, Gloin, Eomer, Beorn, Saruman, and Radagast.
Word, I highly enjoy this series.
Great video! Hey you should do one about LOTR references in Led Zeppelin's songs - The Battle of Evermore, Ramble On, Misty Mountain Hop and Bron-Y-Aur Stomp. "The ring-wraiths ride in black!"
If i were to write chapter by Chapter a story about these wonderful lads, would anybody be interested. I'd do it solely for myself but i prefer to enrich other's lives if possible.
It will be about the accepting their role in Middle Earth, that they don't have be their father, but neither can they escape the fate of being Elrond's son and Galadriel's grandsons and the lineage of their forbearers.
Specifically, saving their mother (obviously a pivotal moment that shaped them as men to come for centuries).
Their acceptance of their sisters choice to marry a mortal man, even one so respected and loved ad Aragon.
I have lots of ideas and yes, I will do it justice. I promise. No Amazon treatment from me, a true lifelong fan, that has read all the books several times over.
I'm quite sure there are, at the very least I would love to read it.
I love all the twins in Tolkien’s works, especially since they all play such large roles. It’s a shame though that Tolkien pays so little attention to them.
The e-twins version 1-3 are all so interesting characters (especially Elrond and Elros), and the Amburussar too are interesting if only because they are the Sons of Feanor.
Twins are interesting, aren't they, so often found in mythology, and Tolkien's works are a complete mythology in its scope. Elrond and Elros are vital to the whole legendarium; Elladan and Elrohir are mysterious but they seemed to do so much. Tolkien merely teases but I think there could be a lot of depth and a great backstory- I love them. As for my young ginger-haired brothers, they were slightly insane, like most of my dysfunctional family, except for my eldest brother, who was pretty cool 😁 We won't mention Elured and Elurin.
Shoutout to LotRO Elladan and Ellrohir, wouldn't have gotten through the mess that is the Trollshaws without you guys
can you do fingon the eldest son of fingolfin and father of gil galad
In terms of why did they (at least temporarily) stay in Middle Earth, to me the answer is rather simple: we saw amongst most of the young Noldor a desire to rule their own realms, at least for a while. Galadriel in her youth was most smitten with this, and I've little doubt that her grandsons may have wanted a taste of it as well. With their father gone West, they were now the big cheese, for any elfin issues that occurred outside of Lothlorien and Mirkwood. There had to be some satisfaction in that! But in Valinor, they'd of course be essentially nobodies: who'd submit to them, with Elrond, Finarfin, Ingwe, and ultimately Manwe, around? It's probably the same reason that Thranduil was so reluctant to go... who'd care about him (or even his resurrected father Oropher) in the presence of Olwe, or even a resurrected Thingol?
Cool 😎
As to their fate- to choose life as mortal men, or instead make the choice of their father- I would think their love for their mother, and the desire to see her again made whole in spirit in the undying lands, would push them to that choice.
You forgot the bit where they saved Prince Fram of Rhovanion, leading to the defeat of Scatha and the eventual founding of the Rohirrim.
I play that rise to war game and I always try and send them out together on missions
Strange this should be posted today, as it is the birthday of my wife and her twin sister.
Happy birthday to them!
@@MenoftheWest Thank you
Wish Tolkien wrote more about them as so many others
Are these particular stories in any of the Tolkien books?
They didnt sail west, theyre still out there hunting orcs.
I’m pretty sure in the appendix of the Return of the King it says one stayed as a man and the other went to Valinor as a Elf
Wish they were in the films
i like to think they stayed in middle-earth until after arwen passed, and then they sailed west
Perhaps Elladan and Elrohir, as King Elessar of Gondor at age 210 had passed in honour to his forebears, the brothers would remain with their sister, Arwen Undomiel.
From this story I learned not to mess with al elf's momma, she will be avenged 1000-fold.
Would be interesting to wonder what fate they chose. Elves or men
Elladan and Elrohir would kick the crap out of Legolas. Peter Jackson should have showed them off.
Can't wait for the what-if video for what if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
If they wanted to include Arwen in the movies , why not have her join Elladan and Elrohir when they went to back up Aragorn ?
I would like to think they stayed in Middle Earth to run the last Homely house. For a long time, before sailing west. 😊
My brother headcannons that one of them sailed west and the other chooses mortality but I cannot accept this so I headcannon that they both go west
I like the elves because they have pointed ears like Spock from Star Trek.
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It seems likely that they must have left for the West or been killed in combat (which would send them there anyway). Remember that Arwen didn't die of old age, so it is a bit of a plot hole that she made the choice of Men (after living about 3,000 years). But she did seemingly die alone. My sense is that the brothers left with Celeborn to rejoin their parents and family in Valinor. The Orcs seem to undergo their own diminishment after the fall of Sauron. Having been created in defiance of Eru Iluvatar, it may have required the power of a Dark Lord to enable them to continue breeding. Without Morgoth or Sauron, their numbers would have dwindled too as Men whittled away at their numbers. So the brothers would not have needed to remain to fight them. Arwen stayed because she loved and married Aragorn. Elladan and Elrohir didn't have any such romantic connections that we know of.
Why do they look like Chandler from Friends in the thumbnail?
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Are we just assuming that Elladan and Elrohir took ship and sailed into the West? Or does Tolkien ever actually confirm that?
I wish Peter Jackson make a movie about them and the rangers of the north hunting orcs.
Damn so galadriel is elronds mother in law. He married celebraind. Who was galadriels and celeborns daughter... Damn.. But elrond and galadriel are related as well... Damn talk about keeping it in the family. Elrond was the great great grandson of fingolfin, who was brothers with finarfrin, who in turn was galadriels dad.... So yea.. Keeping in the fam lmao.
The sons of Lord Elrond should have been included in the movies. Doesn't make sense as to why they were excluded. 🤔🤔🤔 What were the writers thinking ??????????????
They don't resemble either Lord Elrond nor Celebrion ....🤔🤔🤔 why is that ????
Shame they were not in the movies
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