To me, Fingolfin has always been one of Tolkien's greatest characters...and one of his greatest lessons too. The greatest of all the High Kings of the Noldor, he was not too proud to decline reconciliation with Feanor, even when nobody would have blamed him had he chosen otherwise. He held to his oath and followed Feanor, even after being betrayed and left behind by him. Such an honorable elf!! And, of course, his epic battle with Morgoth himself was a testament to his courage and his will. Knowing he could not win, he fought on anyway and never gave in. A great lesson for us all.
@@Dadecorban he was an elf of high integrity. He wouldn't have it said that he went back on a promise he made while the Valar stood in witness. He promised to follow Fëanor no matter what.
@@madambutterfly1997 Fëanor was Fingolfin's liege lord. He'd sworn fealty to him. Although after his father's murder by Morgoth, Fingolfin obviously found Fëanor's actions to be rash and unjust, in the interests of his people - who, bound by their oath to return to Middle Earth in Fëanor's wake, but also by their own pride, which evoked in them an aversion to a shameful return to Valinor, they opted to follow Fëanor back to Middle Earth even after he'd obviously abandoned them. And they chose all this at great cost and ongoing grief - both at the time of Helcaraxe and throughout the Long Defeat during the Ages afterward.
"Neither Elves nor Orcs boasted of that duel." Yeah that says a lot when Elves and Orcs agree on something. Both lost a lot that day. Morgoth was seen as vulnerable and of course for the Elves the grief was too hard to even think about
Fingolfin is such a hero of the Elves and one of the bravest especially upon deciding to confront Morgoth. I think a stand off though between Feanor and Fingolfin would have definitely been incredibly interesting to see, my money would have been on Fingolfin lol. And to know that he was capable of seriously injuring Morgoth to the point that Morgoth had a limp for the rest of his time is absolutely crazy. That was another great video Yoystan!
@@Sinreher still never worth your life to give a man a limp... not downplaying his Valor. I just feel that everyone would be better off if he hadn't sacrificed his life and lost.
I wanna see Fingolfin vs Sauron. Sauron got beaten by mortal men, dwarfs and hobbits 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Fingolfin would have send him to the shafow realm with one shot
Even though his final fight was epic, his rule as King was his true accomplishment. Thousands of years of peace and prosperity in Valinor. No need for weapons and armor when everyone is happy. The peace and songs of the realm is his true story.
I agree, the final epic fight was just the icing on the cake for his reputation. Despite sharing some of the same blood as Feanor, he was far more gracious and did not fight him despite severe provocation, even forgiving his half-brother after their confrontation in Valinor. He was also not only a great High King in Middle Earth who achieved a near 400 year chokehold on Morgoth's power and therefore peace, he was also the proxy High King of the Noldor in Valinor when Finwe joined Feanor in exile at Formenost. Finally, it needs to be said, he led the Noldor through the truly terrifying journey of the Helcaraxe when Feanor abandoned them. "Epic" does not do him justice.
@@sweeperboy well all legendarium of tolkien is not only stupid but totaly not logic ,first feanor most of the most elf in power of body and brain ho can create super silmarils ,videocellfone -palantirs etc and etc and hi ithen with help of wife host/Best frends telerians of Finarfin cant bild a faking ships but in same time faking umbarians or theiar ancestors can bild , or sample fact faramir did not distoed all briges other Anduine well this is imposibile to not do , o saing Galadriel have more power than Lutien a half maia ,or saing that Dior 1/4 maia can bi kiled so izy , o saing sauron is most powerfull morgoth servant but in same time hi is faked by a dog by Felagund by Gil Galad his rol in fall of Moria is zero fall of Gondor supremacy is 0 ,castamir do it,fall of Arnor yes is zero , arnor was distroed by two imbecil princes and in same time no intervention from Elrond Galadriel or Cirdan or King of Gondor , Fall of Erebor same , and in Palisor Fankil faight against armies minimum 20 time biger ,well fankil faight agains armies bigger than same Morgoth , o that numenorians accepts to luse 50% of theiar years of living bicose a psihopat king hate elfs ,well if the king let say 17 bicame enemy of elfs losing years but clan of Elendil continues to have long live this mins that 19th king o maximum 20th returns to god way and say fak of to sauron" shadow" bicose is not so powerfull, way ? bicose hi sauron is impotent in situations example then orcs in Mordor under direct control sauron or his nazguls start to kill themselfes fo a shit armore of Frodo , and a lot of this anlogic info are tons.
@@adrianciobanu5856 hahaha that was oddly coherent(once deciphered) you seem to have actually read the Silmarillien... But seriously it's like reading Hagrids dialog. You do know you didn't spell a single word right.
"I do not fear death" I always respected how Fingolfin managed to deal with such difficult individuals and odds As Kipling once said, when u can keep your head wen others lose theirs then u will b a man Or in this case a high elven lord :) Also someone needs to animate the battle between him and Morgoth; mortal imagination doesn't do it justice
There is no evil too great to stand against, even when we must (seemingly) stand alone. That is great wisdom to keep in mind; this High King of the Elves stands as a pattern for us all.
The greatest and coolest Elf alongside Thingol! Man I love Fingolfin, who was to my mind the greatest of Finwe's sons and the coolest of all the Noldor in the whole of the Silmarillion! Have so much admiration and fondness for this valiant Elf-lord created by Tolkien. Always imagined that in Dagor Daggorath, Fingolfin was reincarnated to lead the Valar's armies against those of Morgoth, and that it might be him who destroys a reborn Sauron or something with Ringil.
All thingol did was rule doriath and let the others rule the lands nearby, at least Fingolfin actually did something (he did participate in multiple battles)
I was at work listening to the audiobook for the first time about a year ago, but I remember clearly when Fingolfin rode to Angband I had to find a private spot to sit down, and even though that battle is only like 1 paragraph long, I remember sitting there with my head in my hands and eyes welled up with tears! Such a beautifully written final battle.
"Finally I've found myself In these lands Horror and madness I've seen here For what I became a king of the lost? Barren and lifeless the land lies Lord of all Noldor A star in the night And a bearer of hope He rides into his glorious battle alone Farewell to the valiant warlord The Fate of us all Lies deep in the dark When time stands still at the iron hill I stand alone Noone's by my side I'll dare you Come out You coward Now it's me or you He gleams like a star And the sound of his horn's Like a raging storm Proudly the high lord Challenges the doom Lord of slaves he cries Slowly in fear The dark lord appears Welcome to my lands You shall be damned" -Time Stands Still (At The Iron Hill) by Blind Guardian
My favorite Elf of ALL Time, an honorable and badass warior indeed!!!! Truly a great character!!!!!! @Men of the West another amazing video blessed by Eru himself!!!!!!!
Great video, Yoystan! Fingolfin is one of my most favorite elves. Of Finwë's sons, I like him the most. Finarfin is too much peacefull (meaning no offense) and Fëanor is evil (I understand his temperament, but don't aprove his evil actions). Fingolfin is wise and kind but also valiant. He can do what is neccessary for a good of his people. And he and Maedhros were clever and wise enough to restore peace between their people (which is something that Fëanor would never do). That duel with Melkor was really brave move. He thought that everything is lost, but despite that he rode to Angband and at least try to beat Melkor (even if his chances are very very very small) and save survivors of Dagor Bragollach. Truly great character. He will be always my king.
"Lord of All Noldor. A Star in the night and a bearer of hope. He rides into his glorious battle alone. Farewell to the Valiant Warlord." (From Time Stands stands Still at the Iron Hill on "Nightfall in Middle Earth" by Blind Guardian)
By far the most valiant from all the Elves. Can you imagine banging at Angband by himself to challenge the most powerful being that has ever existed in the world? I mean, that takes some serious balls
In all the Realms of Middle Earth and beyond, Fingolfin was the Greatest of Elves in wisdom and war. The bards sing that aside from Morgoth, he could only be bested in single combat by the one the songs name "Chuck Norris".
Tolkien wrote nothing about Fingolfin’s reincarnation but I hope that he waited in The Halls of Mandos and eventually was reincarnated because of his bravery and valour together with his sons and daughter . During his stay in Mandos his half brother finally riconciliate with him
I do think Fingolfin would have been reincarnated by the time of the War of the Ring and living in bliss in Valinor. We don't know this for sure of course, as Tolkien wrote nothing about it, but we do know that Finrod Felagund was reincarnated and was back with his original love in Valinor. The Doom of Mandos was lifted on the living Noldor of Middle Earth after the War of Wrath allowing them to return to Valinor if they wished, so unless someone had done some truly awful deeds (looking at you here, Feanor and sons), it would not make sense for Mandos to keep Fingolfin, Fingod, Turgon and so on in the Halls indefinitely. The only thing apart from the original "rebellion" that Fingolfin would have to atone for (and even that is debateable, since his intent was to not abandon his people to Feanor, rather than for the reasons the Feanoreans left; additionally, the Noldor came to Valinor under free will, so they were not prisoners there), is the first Kinslaying which again he and his people were not really to blame for as they arrived at a pitched battle between the Feanoreans and the Teleri without the context of how it started. So undoubtedly, he would have spent some time in the Halls of Mandos before being reincarnated, but I am quite sure that Mandos would have seen the true valour, purity and honour of this great Elf and given him a second chance of life.
@@sweeperboy In the Dagor Dagorath the brothers would fight alongside each other against the end of all things, and finally see the end of their enemy of old.
i think the participation in the kinslaying is an issue. Resurrections, such as with Glorfindel, Gandalf and Finrod did not have these issues. They retained their nobility and true cause without fault,
Fingolfin is special IMO in that he definitely is not the author's pet, sure he is as awesome and a noble paragon as possible, but he then faced factors beyond his control and he had to made tough choices, weighing his priorities. He did not want to fight his elder half-brother, so he swore to submit to his half-brother's leadership? Surprise surprise, his half-brother decided to rebel against the gods and lead his people to a doomed quest, so Fingolfin must weigh his oath, his love for his family, his love for his people, his love for Valinor, his obedience to the gods Valar, and make a difficult choice. When his half-brother told him that another band of elves attacked them, Fingolfin had no choice but to follow and retaliate, only to later find that his half-brother misled him and actually the other band of elves were wronged, tainting Fingolfin's honour. Fingolfin wanted to form alliances among the good people in Middle Earth, and a prime candidate to win over is the local elven king, who had an angel for a wife and who also is technically your father's peers, so you need to call him King Thingol Sir. And then to make this pitch even harder to made, King Thingol discovered that you had (accidentally) slaughtered his kinsmen before coming to Middle Earth, so he is not very chummy with you. What do you do? Grit and bear it, try to make the best with the cards you were dealt. Fingolfin wanted to put Angband under siege and be vigilant against Morgoth? Well tough luck high king, your people felt content and lost the alertness, so they lost hard in the battle of sudden flames.
you would have to say “in the Silmarillion” for this to be true; since that book primarily deals with the Noldor exiles, which Finarfin was not. Finarfin becomes High King of the Noldor in Valinor perhaps until the breaking of the world...which is no small detail.
He's not just one of the High King of Noldor but to me he is The High King of all the Eldar, despite the title is awarded to Ingwe. I only could imagine what could have been the third age with him fighting along side of the free people of middle hearth in the war against Souron. Considering what just a drop of his blood flowing in the vanes of King Elessar have accomplish. Fingolfin The Mightiest of all.
I think that Fingolfin is by far the most loyal elf in the whole Tolkien-Universe. I mean, he was betrayed by his brother, but still had his back. Which other elf did that? But am I the only one who is absolutely interested in the idea of what would be if Feanor and/or Fingolfin would live throughout the second and third age? I mean, would their existence change anything? Would the rings still be created by Celebrimbor? Would they maybe bring war or would they establish peace?
Granted, the only reason a mere elf like Fingolfin was able to do so well against Melkor was due to Melkor having grown vastly diminished over the ages (which even back during the War of the Powers, Melkor was stated to be now weaker than Manwë by the time the Valar confronted Melkor in his throne room if you've read Morgoth's Ring) and having been permanently incarnated to a physical body. All the same though.... Hail to the king!!!
Don't know why, but I have ever had the impression that Fingolfin was more akin to a noble king/knight of medieval "Courtly Love" novels rather than the epics Tolkien mostly wrote in the Silmarillion. It's as if he is a bit out of place surrounded by so many extremely passioned and angry Heroes, while he mostly acted on the background as a calm and steady force. Even when fighting Melkor, does so fully knowing that his actions were crazy, but still went through them with a more calm persona
Watching this is like watching an epic movie. Really great work all round. The narration is exceptional and the choice of music and the art. Wonderful.
Without a doubt one of the greatest Kings of middle earth full of Heartache and treachery of his family amazing video as always 💓can't wait for the next one Hail to the High King of Nulgore Fingolfin
i don't know if i've said this enough, but thank you SO MUCH for all your content! ESPECIALLY regarding High King Fingolfin! Easily one of my favourite fictional characters and your entire series really gets me through the harsh winters in the local area. blessings of Eru upon you good sir, your work is greatly appreciated :)
I went to Goodwill this weekend and found a copy of "The Lays of Beleriand" ECTHELION! " Come, open wide, dark king, your ghastly brazen doors!" Balls of solid rock!
I'll never forget the first time I read this in college. I lost all sympathy for Feanor as soon as he ditched his brothers in the freezing ice. Side question: 8:50 - is the little blonde elf child Idril?
When I first read The Silmarillion Fingolfin was my favorite Elf/Elven King but after several readings of Silmarillion and other professor Tolkien works my top pick is now Finrod Felagund though…still Fingolfin easily is number 2 😁😎
Good choice, and Thingol is up there too for me! Man Finrod & Fingolfin are such great characters! Can't believe I forgot about Finrod in my own comment!
@@thebrotherskrynn they are all valiant and strong. Thingol was caught in the web of Mandos doom because he wanted a Silmaril, otherwise he was a valiant king too. And he made love to a beautiful and wise Maia too 😍
Finrod’s character is definitely more fleshed out. His travels with Turgon, his discovery of men. The way he sacrificed himself for Beren; killing the wolf with his bare hands and teeth. Amazing character. Fingolfin has more of that mystery and intrigue. Plus he had the most epic scene in all the Silmarillion. But yes, Finrod is a more complete character.
The only problem i really have with the Silmarillion is that Tolkien made all the elves names too alike with one another. Especially that of the family of Finwe. It makes it very confusing sometimes.
Who made the image at 11:14 it's so funny it's true! I will post later an epic crossover that would probably happen in Arda with a famous MCU quote starring Fingolfin!!! Thanks Mellon for Fingolfin's ECH, Until the Fell Winter...Marion Baggins Out!!!
@Hydra Dominatus true but he was probably still the most powerful being in arda if any balrog wasn’t more powerful that is which I doubt because morgoth is indestructible and immortal
The archetypes portrayed by the two brothers in this tale are beyond compare Both represent true drive and tenacity in times of evil Feanor died for his own greed for the silmarils which he valued above all else Fingolfin died attempting to avenge his brother and his people which he valued above all else
I disagree, sure they had a contentious past and Feanor did betray him, but I still don't think that Fingolfin would ever forget the love and respect he bore for his brother Remember he once said "Half-brother in blood, full brother in heart"
Anyone here a middle schooler who is addicted and obsessed with Tolkiens works and in their free time admiring a middle earth map or book and their family thinks that you are a crazy nerd Totally me.
A very nice video! Fingolfin was very strong indeed to damage Morgoth so badly. Admittedly unrelated question: I once heard that orcs were basically "flesh robots" for the Dark Lords and would do as programmed. This also makes betrayal less of an issue, but that means orcs don't have real souls. How true is this?
In terms of good vs evil, I actually personally love this explanation. If they still retained the souls of Elves, it would create a moral problem of how Orcs were dealt with over the ages.
I agree with Yoystan. This was a question that Tolkien himself had to wrestle with. I think he had some other proposed solutions to this conundrum by suggesting that the Orcs were basically elevated beasts because they did not possess the fea (soul, or spiritual essence) even if they had mind and hroa (a physical consciousness or identity in the living world) but they were for certain animated to evil by the influence and the will of the Dark Lord who created them in mockery of the Children of Iluvatar, elves, men and dwarves. This is one of the ways that Melkor spent his spirit and power in the world, in such a wasteful manner.
The two Uruks, Shagrat and Gorbag, when discussing the Nazgul under the Tower of Ungol, said "...and they skin the body off of you as soon as look at you, and leave you all cold in the dark on the other side." From this, it seems to me orcs thought they had souls that were independent of their bodies. Maybe the first orcs were lied to and the traditional idea of having a soul was maintained over generations? It seems to me that having a soul is hard to verify and must be taken on faith by people other than Elves.
Personally I don't like the idea of orcs being automatons. Enslaved sure, but making them programmed beings feels like a cop out. The thing is that orcs are almost never seen outside of a military capacity. I'd like to think that orcs outside of war and toil just do as they feel like and go back to their tribes and clans.
He swore to be a full brother of Feanor, having the Valar as their witness, and promised him love and fealty. Fingolfin would never break word and faith. He also still loved his elder brother, despite all the evil things he did. And on top of that, he knew his brother, he would not allow their people to be left with Feanor alone as their ruler.
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Fingolfin challenged the Devil. He lost, but the ever since, the Devil walked with a limp.
True.
He mutilated the second most powerful being in existence. Pretty based.
Like an old school pimp
He would have one shotted Sauron
To me, Fingolfin has always been one of Tolkien's greatest characters...and one of his greatest lessons too. The greatest of all the High Kings of the Noldor, he was not too proud to decline reconciliation with Feanor, even when nobody would have blamed him had he chosen otherwise. He held to his oath and followed Feanor, even after being betrayed and left behind by him. Such an honorable elf!! And, of course, his epic battle with Morgoth himself was a testament to his courage and his will. Knowing he could not win, he fought on anyway and never gave in. A great lesson for us all.
Thus died Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor, most proud and valiant of the Elven-kings of old.
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At least Fingolfin wasn't stupid enough to swear an unbreakable oath.
And yet the promises he made he kept, no matter the cost.
I mean....he swore an oath that took his people to their doom in Middle Earth...that he could have broke. Whats the difference really....
@@Dadecorban he was an elf of high integrity. He wouldn't have it said that he went back on a promise he made while the Valar stood in witness. He promised to follow Fëanor no matter what.
@@madambutterfly1997 Fëanor was Fingolfin's liege lord. He'd sworn fealty to him. Although after his father's murder by Morgoth, Fingolfin obviously found Fëanor's actions to be rash and unjust, in the interests of his people - who, bound by their oath to return to Middle Earth in Fëanor's wake, but also by their own pride, which evoked in them an aversion to a shameful return to Valinor, they opted to follow Fëanor back to Middle Earth even after he'd obviously abandoned them. And they chose all this at great cost and ongoing grief - both at the time of Helcaraxe and throughout the Long Defeat during the Ages afterward.
Uhm should we tell them the true?
"Neither Elves nor Orcs boasted of that duel." Yeah that says a lot when Elves and Orcs agree on something. Both lost a lot that day. Morgoth was seen as vulnerable and of course for the Elves the grief was too hard to even think about
Knock Knock!
"Who's there?"
"Fingolfin!"
**dead silence as Morgoth proceeds to wet himself**
Fingolfin: I'm here for that asswhoopin you promised
Morgoth: 🥶
“And Morgoth pissed.”
"I KNOW YOU'RE HERE, MORGOTH, YOU BIG FUCKIN' NERD! WHERE'S MY GODDAMN MONEY?"
Fingolfin is such a hero of the Elves and one of the bravest especially upon deciding to confront Morgoth. I think a stand off though between Feanor and Fingolfin would have definitely been incredibly interesting to see, my money would have been on Fingolfin lol. And to know that he was capable of seriously injuring Morgoth to the point that Morgoth had a limp for the rest of his time is absolutely crazy. That was another great video Yoystan!
But Morgoth killed him a limp for a life is never a good trade
@@Ancient_Entity dude, it was an elf against the most powerful being other than Eru himself.
@@Sinreher still never worth your life to give a man a limp... not downplaying his Valor. I just feel that everyone would be better off if he hadn't sacrificed his life and lost.
@@Ancient_Entity Yeah, that's true.
Though the limp was probably a huge blow to Melkor's ego.
I wanna see Fingolfin vs Sauron. Sauron got beaten by mortal men, dwarfs and hobbits 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Fingolfin would have send him to the shafow realm with one shot
Even though his final fight was epic, his rule as King was his true accomplishment. Thousands of years of peace and prosperity in Valinor. No need for weapons and armor when everyone is happy. The peace and songs of the realm is his true story.
His accomplishments as king is commendable but too much peace brings complacency and with complacency comes weakness.
@@totalnewb123 true. But Melkor escaping and killing the two trees was not from the Noldor's fault but the Valar's.
I agree, the final epic fight was just the icing on the cake for his reputation. Despite sharing some of the same blood as Feanor, he was far more gracious and did not fight him despite severe provocation, even forgiving his half-brother after their confrontation in Valinor. He was also not only a great High King in Middle Earth who achieved a near 400 year chokehold on Morgoth's power and therefore peace, he was also the proxy High King of the Noldor in Valinor when Finwe joined Feanor in exile at Formenost. Finally, it needs to be said, he led the Noldor through the truly terrifying journey of the Helcaraxe when Feanor abandoned them.
"Epic" does not do him justice.
@@sweeperboy well all legendarium of tolkien is not only stupid but totaly not logic ,first feanor most of the most elf in power of body and brain ho can create super silmarils ,videocellfone -palantirs etc and etc and hi ithen with help of wife host/Best frends telerians of Finarfin cant bild a faking ships but in same time faking umbarians or theiar ancestors can bild , or sample fact faramir did not distoed all briges other Anduine well this is imposibile to not do , o saing Galadriel have more power than Lutien a half maia ,or saing that Dior 1/4 maia can bi kiled so izy , o saing sauron is most powerfull morgoth servant but in same time hi is faked by a dog by Felagund by Gil Galad his rol in fall of Moria is zero fall of Gondor supremacy is 0 ,castamir do it,fall of Arnor yes is zero , arnor was distroed by two imbecil princes and in same time no intervention from Elrond Galadriel or Cirdan or King of Gondor , Fall of Erebor same , and in Palisor Fankil faight against armies minimum 20 time biger ,well fankil faight agains armies bigger than same Morgoth , o that numenorians accepts to luse 50% of theiar years of living bicose a psihopat king hate elfs ,well if the king let say 17 bicame enemy of elfs losing years but clan of Elendil continues to have long live this mins that 19th king o maximum 20th returns to god way and say fak of to sauron" shadow" bicose is not so powerfull, way ? bicose hi sauron is impotent in situations example then orcs in Mordor under direct control sauron or his nazguls start to kill themselfes fo a shit armore of Frodo , and a lot of this anlogic info are tons.
@@adrianciobanu5856 hahaha that was oddly coherent(once deciphered) you seem to have actually read the Silmarillien...
But seriously it's like reading Hagrids dialog. You do know you didn't spell a single word right.
"I do not fear death"
I always respected how Fingolfin managed to deal with such difficult individuals and odds
As Kipling once said, when u can keep your head wen others lose theirs then u will b a man
Or in this case a high elven lord :)
Also someone needs to animate the battle between him and Morgoth; mortal imagination doesn't do it justice
There is no evil too great to stand against, even when we must (seemingly) stand alone. That is great wisdom to keep in mind; this High King of the Elves stands as a pattern for us all.
Only with Eru as your headship
Yeah and 1 in 10 million or more humans will do that and when they do, they usually die young
There is no evil too great to stand against even when we must (seemingly) stand alone.
My elf Fingolfin! Favorite character in all the Tolkien universe. Anyone willing to go toe to toe with Morgoth in combat is awesome.
The sheer volume of alliteration of the letter "F" in this episode is stupendous.
The greatest and coolest Elf alongside Thingol! Man I love Fingolfin, who was to my mind the greatest of Finwe's sons and the coolest of all the Noldor in the whole of the Silmarillion! Have so much admiration and fondness for this valiant Elf-lord created by Tolkien.
Always imagined that in Dagor Daggorath, Fingolfin was reincarnated to lead the Valar's armies against those of Morgoth, and that it might be him who destroys a reborn Sauron or something with Ringil.
All thingol did was rule doriath and let the others rule the lands nearby, at least Fingolfin actually did something (he did participate in multiple battles)
Even in death, Fingolfin may smile a wicked smile of triumph, for he made Morgoth ever after associated with the word, "limp."
I was at work listening to the audiobook for the first time about a year ago, but I remember clearly when Fingolfin rode to Angband I had to find a private spot to sit down, and even though that battle is only like 1 paragraph long, I remember sitting there with my head in my hands and eyes welled up with tears! Such a beautifully written final battle.
"Finally I've found myself
In these lands
Horror and madness I've seen here
For what I became a king of the lost?
Barren and lifeless the land lies
Lord of all Noldor
A star in the night
And a bearer of hope
He rides into his glorious battle alone
Farewell to the valiant warlord
The Fate of us all
Lies deep in the dark
When time stands still at the iron hill
I stand alone
Noone's by my side
I'll dare you
Come out
You coward
Now it's me or you
He gleams like a star
And the sound of his horn's
Like a raging storm
Proudly the high lord
Challenges the doom
Lord of slaves he cries
Slowly in fear
The dark lord appears
Welcome to my lands
You shall be damned"
-Time Stands Still (At The Iron Hill) by Blind Guardian
FINGOLFIN IS TOTALLY AWSOME
The greatest of the seven high kings of the Noldor in my opinion (Gil-galad is second)
Agreed
@@behnamdabestanizade there is arguments for both but I prefer Fingolfin personally, but respect to people that have Gil-galad as the best
Agreed
I'd put Fingon second.
MORGOTH: To settle this debate, I propose we set Fingolfin and Gil-galad against one another in mortal combat.
Mandos is the absolute madlad of the Valar. He literally spelled the end for everybody involved and no one listened to him.
It was his power and his charge, to know all that should be, yet he only ever spoke his dooms at the bidding of Manwe.
The intro you read is, in my opinion, the most epic lines ever put to parchment.
My favorite Elf of ALL Time, an honorable and badass warior indeed!!!! Truly a great character!!!!!! @Men of the West another amazing video blessed by Eru himself!!!!!!!
Great video, Yoystan! Fingolfin is one of my most favorite elves. Of Finwë's sons, I like him the most. Finarfin is too much peacefull (meaning no offense) and Fëanor is evil (I understand his temperament, but don't aprove his evil actions). Fingolfin is wise and kind but also valiant. He can do what is neccessary for a good of his people. And he and Maedhros were clever and wise enough to restore peace between their people (which is something that Fëanor would never do). That duel with Melkor was really brave move. He thought that everything is lost, but despite that he rode to Angband and at least try to beat Melkor (even if his chances are very very very small) and save survivors of Dagor Bragollach. Truly great character. He will be always my king.
Finarfen is still alive tho.....he is the last one standing
"Lord of All Noldor. A Star in the night and a bearer of hope. He rides into his glorious battle alone. Farewell to the Valiant Warlord." (From Time Stands stands Still at the Iron Hill on "Nightfall in Middle Earth" by Blind Guardian)
By far the most valiant from all the Elves. Can you imagine banging at Angband by himself to challenge the most powerful being that has ever existed in the world? I mean, that takes some serious balls
In all the Realms of Middle Earth and beyond, Fingolfin was the Greatest of Elves in wisdom and war. The bards sing that aside from Morgoth, he could only be bested in single combat by the one the songs name "Chuck Norris".
I can not express how much i have come to love all his works and stories.
It's like it was a real time.
@Linda Scott i have thought of that. Hahaa
Tolkien wrote nothing about Fingolfin’s reincarnation but I hope that he waited in The Halls of Mandos and eventually was reincarnated because of his bravery and valour together with his sons and daughter . During his stay in Mandos his half brother finally riconciliate with him
I do think Fingolfin would have been reincarnated by the time of the War of the Ring and living in bliss in Valinor. We don't know this for sure of course, as Tolkien wrote nothing about it, but we do know that Finrod Felagund was reincarnated and was back with his original love in Valinor. The Doom of Mandos was lifted on the living Noldor of Middle Earth after the War of Wrath allowing them to return to Valinor if they wished, so unless someone had done some truly awful deeds (looking at you here, Feanor and sons), it would not make sense for Mandos to keep Fingolfin, Fingod, Turgon and so on in the Halls indefinitely.
The only thing apart from the original "rebellion" that Fingolfin would have to atone for (and even that is debateable, since his intent was to not abandon his people to Feanor, rather than for the reasons the Feanoreans left; additionally, the Noldor came to Valinor under free will, so they were not prisoners there), is the first Kinslaying which again he and his people were not really to blame for as they arrived at a pitched battle between the Feanoreans and the Teleri without the context of how it started.
So undoubtedly, he would have spent some time in the Halls of Mandos before being reincarnated, but I am quite sure that Mandos would have seen the true valour, purity and honour of this great Elf and given him a second chance of life.
@@sweeperboy In the Dagor Dagorath the brothers would fight alongside each other against the end of all things, and finally see the end of their enemy of old.
Glorfindel got to cut in line for reincarnation. So id guess fingolfin did too
@@sweeperboy agreed since he only committed one crime (first kinslaying) and died fighting morgoth in a fight
i think the participation in the kinslaying is an issue. Resurrections, such as with Glorfindel, Gandalf and Finrod did not have these issues. They retained their nobility and true cause without fault,
Fingolfin is special IMO in that he definitely is not the author's pet, sure he is as awesome and a noble paragon as possible, but he then faced factors beyond his control and he had to made tough choices, weighing his priorities.
He did not want to fight his elder half-brother, so he swore to submit to his half-brother's leadership? Surprise surprise, his half-brother decided to rebel against the gods and lead his people to a doomed quest, so Fingolfin must weigh his oath, his love for his family, his love for his people, his love for Valinor, his obedience to the gods Valar, and make a difficult choice. When his half-brother told him that another band of elves attacked them, Fingolfin had no choice but to follow and retaliate, only to later find that his half-brother misled him and actually the other band of elves were wronged, tainting Fingolfin's honour.
Fingolfin wanted to form alliances among the good people in Middle Earth, and a prime candidate to win over is the local elven king, who had an angel for a wife and who also is technically your father's peers, so you need to call him King Thingol Sir. And then to make this pitch even harder to made, King Thingol discovered that you had (accidentally) slaughtered his kinsmen before coming to Middle Earth, so he is not very chummy with you. What do you do? Grit and bear it, try to make the best with the cards you were dealt.
Fingolfin wanted to put Angband under siege and be vigilant against Morgoth? Well tough luck high king, your people felt content and lost the alertness, so they lost hard in the battle of sudden flames.
Yep - Fingolfin was put by Fate between a Rock and a Hard Place. His existential dilemma is a testament to Tolkien's creative genius.
And you know what? He got sick of all of it and knock kocked on Morgoth's door to "COME AT ME BRO!"
Fingolfin is the only one of Fëanor brothers not completely overshadowed.
You forgot meadhros
you would have to say “in the Silmarillion” for this to be true; since that book primarily deals with the Noldor exiles, which Finarfin was not. Finarfin becomes High King of the Noldor in Valinor perhaps until the breaking of the world...which is no small detail.
@@tijltrienen He is a son of Feanor, not a brother
I think hes better he actually fights morgoth feanor dies by balrogs
Maedhros was his son not brother
Good video and love the quotes. That is what gives me respect for a Tolkien channel is the quotes.
A very good video as always Men of the West, Fingolfin was a badass, my one of the two favorite elves in Tolkien's writing.
The fight between Fingolfin and Morgoth is my absolute favorite moment in all of Tolkien's works.
He's not just one of the High King of Noldor but to me he is The High King of all the Eldar, despite the title is awarded to Ingwe. I only could imagine what could have been the third age with him fighting along side of the free people of middle hearth in the war against Souron. Considering what just a drop of his blood flowing in the vanes of King Elessar have accomplish. Fingolfin The Mightiest of all.
The bravest and most valiant perhaps, but not the mightiest.
He was the most steadfast and valiant of the Noldor.
Hands down one of the bravest characters I've ever seen!!🔥😯🔥
I think that Fingolfin is by far the most loyal elf in the whole Tolkien-Universe. I mean, he was betrayed by his brother, but still had his back. Which other elf did that?
But am I the only one who is absolutely interested in the idea of what would be if Feanor and/or Fingolfin would live throughout the second and third age?
I mean, would their existence change anything?
Would the rings still be created by Celebrimbor?
Would they maybe bring war or would they establish peace?
Granted, the only reason a mere elf like Fingolfin was able to do so well against Melkor was due to Melkor having grown vastly diminished over the ages (which even back during the War of the Powers, Melkor was stated to be now weaker than Manwë by the time the Valar confronted Melkor in his throne room if you've read Morgoth's Ring) and having been permanently incarnated to a physical body. All the same though.... Hail to the king!!!
It’s a combination of morgoth having lost much of his power and Fingolfin being the strongest elven warrior
Простой эльф??! Высший эльф нолдор 1 эпохи, сын Финае и король нолдор. Он один из сильнейших эльфов в истории, ты о чём?
Don't know why, but I have ever had the impression that Fingolfin was more akin to a noble king/knight of medieval "Courtly Love" novels rather than the epics Tolkien mostly wrote in the Silmarillion.
It's as if he is a bit out of place surrounded by so many extremely passioned and angry Heroes, while he mostly acted on the background as a calm and steady force.
Even when fighting Melkor, does so fully knowing that his actions were crazy, but still went through them with a more calm persona
He had enough of the bullshit and wanted to end it one way or another
Watching this is like watching an epic movie. Really great work all round. The narration is exceptional and the choice of music and the art. Wonderful.
Here we go perfect Sunday history
Without a doubt one of the greatest Kings of middle earth full of Heartache and treachery of his family amazing video as always 💓can't wait for the next one Hail to the High King of Nulgore Fingolfin
Fingolfin is awesome. Its really hard to compare many people to him.
I thought Fingolfin was the quenya translation for Biggest mithril balls, THX for the video man.
i don't know if i've said this enough, but thank you SO MUCH for all your content! ESPECIALLY regarding High King Fingolfin! Easily one of my favourite fictional characters and your entire series really gets me through the harsh winters in the local area. blessings of Eru upon you good sir, your work is greatly appreciated :)
I went to Goodwill this weekend and found a copy of "The Lays of Beleriand" ECTHELION! " Come, open wide, dark king, your ghastly brazen doors!" Balls of solid rock!
I'll never forget the first time I read this in college. I lost all sympathy for Feanor as soon as he ditched his brothers in the freezing ice. Side question: 8:50 - is the little blonde elf child Idril?
Totally agree! Yep, I believe that’s her!
Craftsmen tend to be evil in Tolkien's world.
@@MenoftheWest poor Elemwè. Shows a lot about why Turgon wanted to just go seek isolation and be left out of the whole thing.
Feanor lost my sympathy after he threatened Fingolfin in valinor
When I first read The Silmarillion Fingolfin was my favorite Elf/Elven King but after several readings of Silmarillion and other professor Tolkien works my top pick is now Finrod Felagund though…still Fingolfin easily is number 2 😁😎
Good choice, and Thingol is up there too for me! Man Finrod & Fingolfin are such great characters! Can't believe I forgot about Finrod in my own comment!
@@thebrotherskrynn they are all valiant and strong. Thingol was caught in the web of Mandos doom because he wanted a Silmaril, otherwise he was a valiant king too. And he made love to a beautiful and wise Maia too 😍
Finrod is the ultimate bro. I agree
What about ecthellion?
Finrod’s character is definitely more fleshed out. His travels with Turgon, his discovery of men. The way he sacrificed himself for Beren; killing the wolf with his bare hands and teeth. Amazing character. Fingolfin has more of that mystery and intrigue. Plus he had the most epic scene in all the Silmarillion. But yes, Finrod is a more complete character.
Challenging a God to combat is indeed a glorious way to die. I really respect the guy.
Took on Melkor in Hand to Hand combat, epic.
Ñolofinwë is just such an epic charachter!
Absolutly glorious and epic. Brilliant
One of my most favourite characters in the Silmarillion.
Love fingolfin, time stands still at the Iron hill by blind guardian is such an awesome song about him and his fight with morgoth
Imma listen to that one rn
cool video Yoystan its was awesome
The most epic elf of the Legendarium.
Yup
"Bruh, get your ass out here right now!" - Fingolfin to The Devil himself
Feanor didn't deserve such an awesome brother as Fingolfin
He deserve worse than what he got
Damn right
Fingolfin vs Morgoth was my favorite part of the book. It felt like I was reading a battle from One Punch Man.
Most badass Elf to walk on middle earth
Love Fingolfin, thanks for making this Men of the West!
The most powerful incarnation of evil. So powerful that sauron served him.
Fingolfin challenged that to a duel. That's legendary courage.
The only problem i really have with the Silmarillion is that Tolkien made all the elves names too alike with one another. Especially that of the family of Finwe. It makes it very confusing sometimes.
@Tom Bombadil it’s very true. Tolkien even went easy on us and mixed it up with the sons of Feänor
Yup
I always love the first age stories alot! long live fingolfin! and the long dead elven kingdoms of beleriand!
Fingolfin challenging Morgoth is one of my favorite moments. What a bad***. Morgoth feared the descendants of Fingolfin ever since.
Who made the image at 11:14 it's so funny it's true!
I will post later an epic crossover that would probably happen in Arda with a famous MCU quote starring Fingolfin!!!
Thanks Mellon for Fingolfin's ECH, Until the Fell Winter...Marion Baggins Out!!!
Great video!
Lord of all Noldor !
A Star in the Night and a bearer of hope !
He rides into his final battle alone !
Farewell to the valiant warlord !
You troubled my day
Now feel the pain…
🤪🤩
Thanks great subject. All hail the high king fingolfin. My he rest in peace in valinor .
And live again in Valinor.
My favorite character in the entire Tolkienverse
Fingolfin and Theodin, the only two characters to be compared to a Vala. Both resembled Orome on their final charge. So epic
Crazy to think how in the older days an elf could go one to one against a god and almost win
@Hydra Dominatus true but he was probably still the most powerful being in arda if any balrog wasn’t more powerful that is which I doubt because morgoth is indestructible and immortal
The Silmarilion deserves a TV show telling tales of epic characters like his and others.
It’s best to keep it far away from tv… trust me… 😂
I agree. Keep the Silmarillion away from tv
But in the wrong hands.....no thanks!
my favorite tolkien character
It's a shame that Ringil seemed to be lost. A great wepon for the elves.
It would have been held as a symbol of hope ):
Filled with wraith and despair he mounted his horse and none might restrain him...all beheld his onset thought that he was the vala orome
What are the chances that he just yelled out “FIGHT ME BITCH !” When he challenged him?
Fingolfin are the elves at their best, not their purest or most mighty, but their best
Great video can you do something about the vanyar
Another great video
Another great video and condolences on the loss of your grandfather.
The archetypes portrayed by the two brothers in this tale are beyond compare
Both represent true drive and tenacity in times of evil
Feanor died for his own greed for the silmarils which he valued above all else
Fingolfin died attempting to avenge his brother and his people which he valued above all else
I don't think Fingolfin gave two squirts of piss about Avenging his sweet brother. More like his Father's slaying and the ruin of his own people
Fingolfin would have killed Feanor if he got the chance
I disagree, sure they had a contentious past and Feanor did betray him, but I still don't think that Fingolfin would ever forget the love and respect he bore for his brother
Remember he once said "Half-brother in blood, full brother in heart"
@@Chan-zv5kb no Fingolfin would have killed Feanor
Believe what you want, but at least come up with a valid argument instead of just reiterating your previous claim
Excellent summary.
bro went up to morgoth and said no balls god damn
Anyone here a middle schooler who is addicted and obsessed with Tolkiens works and in their free time admiring a middle earth map or book and their family thinks that you are a crazy nerd
Totally me.
“HEY SATAN! DO YOU EVEN LIFT?!!”
**naruto runs towards him**
A very nice video! Fingolfin was very strong indeed to damage Morgoth so badly.
Admittedly unrelated question: I once heard that orcs were basically "flesh robots" for the Dark Lords and would do as programmed. This also makes betrayal less of an issue, but that means orcs don't have real souls. How true is this?
In terms of good vs evil, I actually personally love this explanation. If they still retained the souls of Elves, it would create a moral problem of how Orcs were dealt with over the ages.
I agree with Yoystan. This was a question that Tolkien himself had to wrestle with. I think he had some other proposed solutions to this conundrum by suggesting that the Orcs were basically elevated beasts because they did not possess the fea (soul, or spiritual essence) even if they had mind and hroa (a physical consciousness or identity in the living world) but they were for certain animated to evil by the influence and the will of the Dark Lord who created them in mockery of the Children of Iluvatar, elves, men and dwarves. This is one of the ways that Melkor spent his spirit and power in the world, in such a wasteful manner.
@@MenoftheWest Thank you so much for your response!
The two Uruks, Shagrat and Gorbag, when discussing the Nazgul under the Tower of Ungol, said "...and they skin the body off of you as soon as look at you, and leave you all cold in the dark on the other side." From this, it seems to me orcs thought they had souls that were independent of their bodies. Maybe the first orcs were lied to and the traditional idea of having a soul was maintained over generations? It seems to me that having a soul is hard to verify and must be taken on faith by people other than Elves.
Personally I don't like the idea of orcs being automatons. Enslaved sure, but making them programmed beings feels like a cop out. The thing is that orcs are almost never seen outside of a military capacity. I'd like to think that orcs outside of war and toil just do as they feel like and go back to their tribes and clans.
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Fingolfin shouldve abandoned Fëanor at the kinslaying if not at the burning of the ships.
He swore to be a full brother of Feanor, having the Valar as their witness, and promised him love and fealty. Fingolfin would never break word and faith.
He also still loved his elder brother, despite all the evil things he did.
And on top of that, he knew his brother, he would not allow their people to be left with Feanor alone as their ruler.
By far the most successful of the Noldorin kings of the 1st Age and a far, far better person than his half brother. All hail High King Fingolfin!
First time checking out your channel. I love it. You've got yourself a new sub sir.
Now we know where GRRM got his inspiration for the characters Aemon the Dragonknight and Aegon the Unworthy 😅
Another great video Brother! I hope you keep The Noldor theme going for awhile!
I think it's Fin-gol-fin. Fingle-fin just sounds funny.
And to think Galadriel witnessed all this epicness.
My favorite elf!
This was a very well told story. Thank you for sharing it.
What better way to end my Sunday ❤️
A great story. You tell it well. Thank you.
As usual, these seem to get posted shortly after I get home from Mass. Not complaining, though.
How long do you think it took Fingolfin and his host to cross the Helcaraxë?
Great question! I’ve heard anything from 3-5 Valian years if we assume the Years of the Trees ended in 1500.
@@MenoftheWest How long is that in Mortal Years (asking for a mortal friend of mine).
@@moistmike4150 1 valian year equals 10 solar years so around 30-40 years