Blue cup .full tool! available in Glasgow now gonna advertise it soon .Need to sell expensive house upgrade to do .if you are interested let me know bud
I bought my 197 around 5 months ago and it works like a clock 0 issues but previous owner spent a fortune tackling all those issues that you are talking about. Great video!
Always had a soft spot for these. Was an alien green one just like this on the forecourt when I bought my first car back in '14. Fell in love with it right there but could never insure it at 19. I'l have one one day, in that colour.👌👽
Great video and very informative! i’ve owned one now for over 4 years and all of the issues you mentioned are definitely true as Ive experienced nearly all of them myself 😂. I too fitted the toyosport manifold as well as it makes sense to, to add, I have also fitted the vibra-technics engine mounts as the toyosport manifold knocks against the subframe under moderate acceleration on oem engine mounts.
I've a 2010 rs200 cup pack in red these things handle like nothing else very underrated car , been totally reliable could do with a touch more power but otherwise I love it .
Yes I've read all about the gearbox issues mines fine @ 68000 miles I think you just have to be a little easy on the shifting through the gears when you're on it , it's a great close gearbox saying that .
I have a clio 197 had it about 9 years now I also have a 172 cup both fun cars to drive. Every single issue you mentioned I got changed on the car thankfully mostly through auto care I bought with the car. I also got the gearbox replaced through auto care. I am tempted now to move on to a megane 250/265/275 was in one at croft last year was impressed how good it was on the track.
chris carenduff usher has a meg 250 now and absolutely swears by it. I’ve drove it myself and it’s a great bit of kit. The clios are great fun but they do lack in the power department. A mapped meg 250 has plenty get up and go
@@onthelimiter6529 I have been looking at them for a while now few of my mates went on a trip to the ring , zolder and spa couple of years ago and they had some awesome cars with them and most of them said the megane was the car of the trip didnt miss a beat over the 3 tracks and the trip from the uk and back 👍
Just passed by this vid again mate. Ended up picking up a megane 275 trophy liquid yellow, had it 8 month now what a capable car. Bonus also managed to hang onto the 197 and the 172 Cup too 🤣👍
Had my alien green just over a month and already spent about 2k on it. My list so far is 4 performance sparks and coils as one went so replaced the lot made sense. Silencer went so had to replace that. Next is the brake calipers we're sieved and brake fluid was brown, replaced all discs and pads and put some premium continental tyres on and new fluid. Car broke yet again turns out it was the main lambda sensor so just fixed that. I don't think this is the end of the nightmare but I'm determined to get this car back to great condition it seems its just had one or 2 bad owners so I'm fixing what they've done. Anything else I should expect next. 😅
I've got a 200 cup in white it's been a cracking motor. I did have the kanagrooing situation but I got the map sensor changed and it's more smoother but then it does help to have an exhaust and air filter. I've not had the gearbox crunching yet and coming up to owning mine 2 years. Enjoyed the video and very informative to what to look out for etc.
Hope you’ve still got the 200. An alien green one went for £30k on Collecting Cars. Seems like alien green 200’s have become a commodity due to how rare they are.
Hey mate, cool video full of tech help with youre obvious in depth experience! Only point to consider from.an observer, is you're gaze at the lens. It's far more engaging to the end user if you're looking at the lens and therefore you're looking at them. Top work though cheers!
Memory serves me right basic cup all came with keys (not key cards) different door cards (speaker grills were flat and not raised), all cups came with red calipers, Basic Cup pack was stiffer suspension, red calipers, quicker steering rack, then full fat clio's/cups, zenon headlights keyless entry and Recaro's if you had deep pockets RS Tuning for me all day long, he's the go to guy If you can live with all the shitty faults and electrical gremlins these cars have then you will have smiles of fun. Drive nothing else.
Decent vid Ush. I've just taken my Storm Grey 200 off the road to get pretty much everything you've mentioned there so this is help of where to go for bits lol. Gearbox, It has a toyo manifold on but flexi has gone it's been on about 5yr, seat repair, timing belt, Got megane RS alloys to go on. The list goes on! Apparently there's only a few of the stormers left?!?
Cheers for the good video, I had a quick question, you mentioned about potentially replacing the manifold with a non Renault one, I was wondering if this would still allow the car to pass the mot? As from what I understand the manifold by Renault contains some sort of catalytic converter. I’ve had this issue for a while with the manifold but can’t bring my self to spending loads of money with Renault and would much rather spend 200 quid on an aftermarket one. Thank you in advance
Really good video mate and informative! Any chance you can point me in the direction of a Clio sport 197 dealer? I live in North Yorkshire but can travel up north further no problem!
Hi what was the name of the garage you recommended in Sunderland and or who else would you recommend in Newcastle for brakes/engine/exhaust mods for a Clio 200?
I own one of 2 rs200 clio sold in oman. I was lucky got it second hand from a guy who got it from dealer and spent a fortune with ktr upgrading it. The gearbox problem i believe was an error from renault that they didnt want too admit. the garages here are a nightmare and i often just purchase parts from uk. Do you know where i can purchase new seat foams. They seam very hard too get seat covers for this also . Its a shame the recaros are so prone too being worn out and the meterial so bad. Love my rs tho its a little monster.
Really like the look of these and always fancied one but had one trying to give me sport on a B road last month, was expecting to be left behind but I kept up on every bend and he slowed me down on the inclines, I was hanging out for a straight to take it (obv within speed limit) (standard MK2 Focus handling). Can only assume the driver was a bit weary or the car was a bag of bolts as it wasn't what I expected.
I have bought a 197, well looked after, handles really well, most major problems tackled, maybe gearbox because 3rd is a bit notchy, but maybe time for new box oil. In dry weather the car runs like a beast, but this morning in moisty damp weather it started right away but did not rev beyond 2000 rpm, after warming up it was fine. Engine does stall when I let it runs idle for a minute or two. I suspect an electrical problem in crank/camshaft sensor and maybe coils, but there is no CEL light. What do you guys think?
@@onthelimiter6529 could check that one, could be a mixture failure during cold start because the ECU does not use lambda sensor and fuel mapping until coolant is at correct temperature? Does Renault still use the big sensors screwed in the radiator?
I'm needing to get a couple dings of my clio 200 resprayed, and the full bumper resprayed. What do you think is the normal cost for a front bumper and a couple touch ups?
Great looking cars but ive had big issues with them kangarooing with a flat spot after accelarating from 2nd gear on the two 200's ive driven - i know ive heard you can get this mapped out,but its just frustrating when you go to test drive one and its doing that. And you think,who has driven it over 80K miles with that issue still?
I dont want to get a car where you have to cable tie things in the engine though lol. I went back in my R26 after and it was so much better to drive. Maybe im too used to the boost way of driving hehe.
Hello mate, just got onto the vid now a few months after. Very informative and real life help for buying these cars. If you where in the market for a car like this now, would you get the 197 over the 182? Cheers
Hi, thank you for the video! I own a 200rs and recently some sort of metal on metal rubbing noise started to occur at about 2k-3k rpm and only on half-load of throttle. The noise comes from the right front corner of the car. Do you have any clue what could it be? You can only hear it from the inside and it’s driving me mad. Also the engine sometimes squeeks at idle, however, timing belt had been changed by previous owner after 30k miles so this issue should be covered. Thank you in advance for your help!
HI GUYS im the north east aswell. Hope you are both doing well - I really appreciate all the advice for the specialists and mapping. Ive got a megane rs in yellow, I need to get the front bumper and wing painted on mine (after spinning out) , having major issues trying to find someone who can do a good job on the painting side of it do you know anyone willing to travel 100 miles. CHEERS!
I’ve got a 197. Lately I’ve had a couple of issues. Firstly the car won’t get into gear when it’s idling or not moving, usually this occurs when I first start the car but the problem goes away when I drive and it warms up. So I don’t think it’s the clutch (shifts perfectly when I am moving). The other problem is whenever I turn on/off the car I hear the squeezing kind of noise coming from behind the radio/aircon region. Hard to explain the noise and not sure where it’s occurring. Doesn’t happen all the time though. The other thing is I’ve heard for these cars every 4 yrs u gotta change the timing belt, is this true or no?
Hi mate. If you google belt interval it will come up for you. The gear problem is a funny one. Never heard of that. Try bleeding clutch off and change box oil
Does it struggle shifting into first gear when the car is stationary? If it does then it is likely the clutch. The clutch on these are made of 2 plates pressed together, these tend to split which causes this issue.
@@123willbishop well its hard to explain and its random, some times it gets in perfect other times i have to push with force. but thanks anyways for the feedback
I have a Liquid Yellow 2009 F1 Team Clio and I hope you are right about them going up in value. I chose the LY F1 firstly because it's my dream car and secondly because I feel it's going to be a collectors item one day. And just to correct you on the numbers, there were a few thousand of them made globally but I think the UK only got 500.
There is that many little things it is hard to diagnose. Best of taking to a garage. Check your engine mounts if there worn they increase pressure on the flexi
Had my Clio 200 Cup since new, kept up with maintenance and only thing it’s needed is suspension components which all cars do over time and a rear wiper motor. Better than BMW’s and VW’s I’ve had in the past!
Ive had three - two 182s and a 197, full of character loved them, great fun - tempted to buy another 197 as a weekend car
Blue cup .full tool! available in Glasgow now gonna advertise it soon .Need to sell expensive house upgrade to do .if you are interested let me know bud
I bought my 197 around 5 months ago and it works like a clock 0 issues but previous owner spent a fortune tackling all those issues that you are talking about.
Great video!
Just bought a 197, great informative video 👍🏻👌🏻
Always had a soft spot for these. Was an alien green one just like this on the forecourt when I bought my first car back in '14. Fell in love with it right there but could never insure it at 19. I'l have one one day, in that colour.👌👽
We have just sold this one. Such a gorgeous colour up close.
@@onthelimiter6529 They come in some lovely colours these. The yellow, nardo/storm grey and bright blue are all lovely too.
A car I wished I'd owned, sadly went different direction.
Do love seeing them still on the road....becoming a rare sight
Great video and very informative! i’ve owned one now for over 4 years and all of the issues you mentioned are definitely true as Ive experienced nearly all of them myself 😂. I too fitted the toyosport manifold as well as it makes sense to, to add, I have also fitted the vibra-technics engine mounts as the toyosport manifold knocks against the subframe under moderate acceleration on oem engine mounts.
Same here wish id have seen this 🤣 just brought the toyo manifold and had a new gearbox put in 🙄
I've a 2010 rs200 cup pack in red these things handle like nothing else very underrated car , been totally reliable could do with a touch more power but otherwise I love it .
Yes I've read all about the gearbox issues mines fine @ 68000 miles I think you just have to be a little easy on the shifting through the gears when you're on it , it's a great close gearbox saying that .
I have a clio 197 had it about 9 years now I also have a 172 cup both fun cars to drive. Every single issue you mentioned I got changed on the car thankfully mostly through auto care I bought with the car. I also got the gearbox replaced through auto care. I am tempted now to move on to a megane 250/265/275 was in one at croft last year was impressed how good it was on the track.
chris carenduff usher has a meg 250 now and absolutely swears by it. I’ve drove it myself and it’s a great bit of kit. The clios are great fun but they do lack in the power department. A mapped meg 250 has plenty get up and go
@@onthelimiter6529 I have been looking at them for a while now few of my mates went on a trip to the ring , zolder and spa couple of years ago and they had some awesome cars with them and most of them said the megane was the car of the trip didnt miss a beat over the 3 tracks and the trip from the uk and back 👍
Just passed by this vid again mate. Ended up picking up a megane 275 trophy liquid yellow, had it 8 month now what a capable car. Bonus also managed to hang onto the 197 and the 172 Cup too 🤣👍
Had my alien green just over a month and already spent about 2k on it. My list so far is 4 performance sparks and coils as one went so replaced the lot made sense. Silencer went so had to replace that. Next is the brake calipers we're sieved and brake fluid was brown, replaced all discs and pads and put some premium continental tyres on and new fluid. Car broke yet again turns out it was the main lambda sensor so just fixed that. I don't think this is the end of the nightmare but I'm determined to get this car back to great condition it seems its just had one or 2 bad owners so I'm fixing what they've done. Anything else I should expect next. 😅
Wow, talking about timing, I am thinking about buying one. Thanks!
Let me know what your after as i do have two coming this week also.👍👍.
Business page is S V PERFORMANCE IMPORTS on facebook.
@@onthelimiter6529 Well thank you, but I don't live in Great Britain. Left hand drive etc.
I've got a 200 cup in white it's been a cracking motor. I did have the kanagrooing situation but I got the map sensor changed and it's more smoother but then it does help to have an exhaust and air filter.
I've not had the gearbox crunching yet and coming up to owning mine 2 years. Enjoyed the video and very informative to what to look out for etc.
Hope you’ve still got the 200. An alien green one went for £30k on Collecting Cars. Seems like alien green 200’s have become a commodity due to how rare they are.
Was looking in too one of these cars sounds like there money pits glad I watched this video.
Hey mate, cool video full of tech help with youre obvious in depth experience! Only point to consider from.an observer, is you're gaze at the lens. It's far more engaging to the end user if you're looking at the lens and therefore you're looking at them. Top work though cheers!
Thanks mate.
Memory serves me right basic cup all came with keys (not key cards) different door cards (speaker grills were flat and not raised), all cups came with red calipers, Basic Cup pack was stiffer suspension, red calipers, quicker steering rack, then full fat clio's/cups, zenon headlights keyless entry and Recaro's if you had deep pockets
RS Tuning for me all day long, he's the go to guy
If you can live with all the shitty faults and electrical gremlins these cars have then you will have smiles of fun.
Drive nothing else.
The perfohubs can be pain to maintain but they work very well. 👍👍
Thanks for the informative video!
Greetings from Germany mate!
Thanks for watching 👍👍
Clio 200. Whats the color code of the rear coil springs?
Decent vid Ush. I've just taken my Storm Grey 200 off the road to get pretty much everything you've mentioned there so this is help of where to go for bits lol. Gearbox, It has a toyo manifold on but flexi has gone it's been on about 5yr, seat repair, timing belt, Got megane RS alloys to go on. The list goes on! Apparently there's only a few of the stormers left?!?
There a rare car mate yes. Sold two last year. Good colour and good sellers.
For your box look up dtm cars, ring and ask to speak to trev.
Cheers for the good video, I had a quick question, you mentioned about potentially replacing the manifold with a non Renault one, I was wondering if this would still allow the car to pass the mot? As from what I understand the manifold by Renault contains some sort of catalytic converter. I’ve had this issue for a while with the manifold but can’t bring my self to spending loads of money with Renault and would much rather spend 200 quid on an aftermarket one. Thank you in advance
Great cars and very informative video
Great video. Looking to get one after selling my trophy 300 megane so I could afford my new mortgage rate 😢
Still a great car. It's not all bad. Plenty fun to be had.
Really good video mate and informative! Any chance you can point me in the direction of a Clio sport 197 dealer? I live in North Yorkshire but can travel up north further no problem!
Hey, great informative vid 👍🏻 I'm looking to purchase a 197 with recaros and drivers needs a repair. Do you have any further details on this?
Hi what was the name of the garage you recommended in Sunderland and or who else would you recommend in Newcastle for brakes/engine/exhaust mods for a Clio 200?
Bleu Dynamo and Vert Alien the 2 best colors of C3RS.
I own one of 2 rs200 clio sold in oman. I was lucky got it second hand from a guy who got it from dealer and spent a fortune with ktr upgrading it. The gearbox problem i believe was an error from renault that they didnt want too admit. the garages here are a nightmare and i often just purchase parts from uk.
Do you know where i can purchase new seat foams. They seam very hard too get seat covers for this also . Its a shame the recaros are so prone too being worn out and the meterial so bad. Love my rs tho its a little monster.
Really like the look of these and always fancied one but had one trying to give me sport on a B road last month, was expecting to be left behind but I kept up on every bend and he slowed me down on the inclines, I was hanging out for a straight to take it (obv within speed limit) (standard MK2 Focus handling). Can only assume the driver was a bit weary or the car was a bag of bolts as it wasn't what I expected.
Great video, awesome accent haha Could listen to you say "cup pack" all day, in a totally non gay way haha
Kept thinking your talking to someone behind behind me 😂🤣😂🤣😂
I have bought a 197, well looked after, handles really well, most major problems tackled, maybe gearbox because 3rd is a bit notchy, but maybe time for new box oil.
In dry weather the car runs like a beast, but this morning in moisty damp weather it started right away but did not rev beyond 2000 rpm, after warming up it was fine. Engine does stall when I let it runs idle for a minute or two. I suspect an electrical problem in crank/camshaft sensor and maybe coils, but there is no CEL light. What do you guys think?
Coolant temp issue maybe?
@@onthelimiter6529 could check that one, could be a mixture failure during cold start because the ECU does not use lambda sensor and fuel mapping until coolant is at correct temperature? Does Renault still use the big sensors screwed in the radiator?
@@thetruth7633 I would say that would sound about right yes. As for location of it I would google imagine it, but could even be the wiring to it
Very handy Guide mate. Shared to a few mates . How's the budget track cars coming along?
Ermmm... well dan has sold his, but i have a wicked 106 rallye away getting built at the moment so you will see that soon
Hi, what are the differences between 197 and 200? Except for the front bumper of course. Thank you!
Engine software change, different head some say and shorter 1.2,3 gears. 200 cup is stiffer than 197 cup. Regular 200 is a bit softer.
Thank you great insight.
good video thanks
Can you show me where the yellow sticker is on the shockers please?
Great vid btw
Not at the moment. All of ours are sold
I'm needing to get a couple dings of my clio 200 resprayed, and the full bumper resprayed. What do you think is the normal cost for a front bumper and a couple touch ups?
Great looking cars but ive had big issues with them kangarooing with a flat spot after accelarating from 2nd gear on the two 200's ive driven - i know ive heard you can get this mapped out,but its just frustrating when you go to test drive one and its doing that. And you think,who has driven it over 80K miles with that issue still?
Yes the flat spot is more so a problem on the 197 its annoying your right
Cable tie the mapp sensor so it’s tight that’s why it kangaroos easy and cheap problem solver 👍
I dont want to get a car where you have to cable tie things in the engine though lol. I went back in my R26 after and it was so much better to drive. Maybe im too used to the boost way of driving hehe.
Magdelayna boost all day! And I did own one a couple years ago. I know there gremlins 😂
Hello mate, just got onto the vid now a few months after. Very informative and real life help for buying these cars. If you where in the market for a car like this now, would you get the 197 over the 182? Cheers
Nope lol. I would still buy the 182.
Good video. Like your channel even more now I know you have a AG 200! 😍
Haha. Thanks mate. Nice one
Great vids very helpful 👌
hello clio 197 in dynamo blue😍 i like a little less the 203 which also pretty
Hi, thank you for the video!
I own a 200rs and recently some sort of metal on metal rubbing noise started to occur at about 2k-3k rpm and only on half-load of throttle. The noise comes from the right front corner of the car. Do you have any clue what could it be? You can only hear it from the inside and it’s driving me mad.
Also the engine sometimes squeeks at idle, however, timing belt had been changed by previous owner after 30k miles so this issue should be covered.
Thank you in advance for your help!
Tbh tom its a hard one that... i would always take it to a specialist to have it diagnosed
Does it sound like a metallic rattle? If it does, it may be your manifold flexi joints have cracked and starting to leak.
I had same noise. It was a cracked manifold on mine.
HI GUYS im the north east aswell. Hope you are both doing well - I really appreciate all the advice for the specialists and mapping. Ive got a megane rs in yellow, I need to get the front bumper and wing painted on mine (after spinning out) , having major issues trying to find someone who can do a good job on the painting side of it do you know anyone willing to travel 100 miles. CHEERS!
jack smith I’ve got a painter, only man I trust with my cars. Just done my cosworth and it’s incredible. Add me on Facebook and I will put u in touch
Best clio!
I’ve got a 197. Lately I’ve had a couple of issues. Firstly the car won’t get into gear when it’s idling or not moving, usually this occurs when I first start the car but the problem goes away when I drive and it warms up. So I don’t think it’s the clutch (shifts perfectly when I am moving).
The other problem is whenever I turn on/off the car I hear the squeezing kind of noise coming from behind the radio/aircon region. Hard to explain the noise and not sure where it’s occurring. Doesn’t happen all the time though.
The other thing is I’ve heard for these cars every 4 yrs u gotta change the timing belt, is this true or no?
Hi mate. If you google belt interval it will come up for you.
The gear problem is a funny one.
Never heard of that. Try bleeding clutch off and change box oil
Belts personally 5 years
@@onthelimiter6529 ah ok cheers man
Does it struggle shifting into first gear when the car is stationary? If it does then it is likely the clutch. The clutch on these are made of 2 plates pressed together, these tend to split which causes this issue.
@@123willbishop well its hard to explain and its random, some times it gets in perfect other times i have to push with force.
but thanks anyways for the feedback
If i order a 197 cup suspension and steering rack from Renault will they fit to to my standard 197? Or will i need some modifications
All direct fit.
@@onthelimiter6529 thanks for the quick responses coz im in morocco and mechanics here dont know jack shit about the 197.
How common is it to find a 197/200 with a TomTom?
Does the factory cup 200 have air con as standard?
No
I have a Liquid Yellow 2009 F1 Team Clio and I hope you are right about them going up in value. I chose the LY F1 firstly because it's my dream car and secondly because I feel it's going to be a collectors item one day.
And just to correct you on the numbers, there were a few thousand of them made globally but I think the UK only got 500.
Yes mate was reffering to uk numbers.
I think all the limited edition clios stand a good fighting chance to be honest with you.
Good cars to own.
What they like on fuel looking at buying one?
Not the worst but not great either
I’ve had 37mpg on a long motorway run and 20ish and less having fun on backroads.
I own 2008 197 and when i accelerate hard i hear a slight knocking grind noise. Can it be the manifold??
There is that many little things it is hard to diagnose. Best of taking to a garage. Check your engine mounts if there worn they increase pressure on the flexi
+ alternators go
You sound like you know what you are ok about- where are you based?
Such unreliable cars but great fun
Laurie Aldam i owned a Clío 182 years ago and it was one of the most reliable cars for me. Maybe the quality subsequently changed.
Owned mine a year, zero issues
Had my Clio 200 Cup since new, kept up with maintenance and only thing it’s needed is suspension components which all cars do over time and a rear wiper motor. Better than BMW’s and VW’s I’ve had in the past!
video is way too longgg
No ones got a gun to your head lol
Does the 200 have steering wheel reach adjustment?