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DO NOT MAKE THAT SONIC SUPERSTARS DIFFICULTY EVER AGAIN!!!!! that is all Side note: Super Hard Mode in Adventure 2 and heroes was fine

Lowkey don’t care Bout the shadow part of gens that much I lost my copy of gens as a kid and haven’t played it in forever

0:26 is the most overthink thing I've seen in a long time. It's extremely easy.

Mega Collection gave me all sorts of challenges as a kid. Adventure 2 had a couple of unfair stages that stumped me. Generations is mostly a wimpy walk in the park. Lost World was kinda tricky at times. Rise of Lyric just looked stupid. Frontiers is a boring Spyro game.

Im sorry but lost worlds controls are really easy to understand not everything needs a tutorial IMO its fun to figure simple stuff out

Honestly Sonic games don’t suck. If they you call them hard it’s probably skill issue. The only thing SEGA needs to fix is the easy parts

I think sonic team should have time to create an actually good video game.

I really hope they continue to make optional sonic frontiers dlc difficulty style .

This is honestly a good topic to talk about, and I have been thinking about it myself for quite some time. The main issue I've noticed with the final horizon is that Sonic Team struggles to find a balance when it comes to difficulty. They struggle or just cannot find a middle ground. they go all in, and as a result have to nerf certain things. Even with nerfs, they tend to overcorrect. The final horizon was definitely not tested enough; I'd even say that it wasn't play tested at all. I much prefer the platforming/puzzles of the 2nd update and the final horizon because they're MUCH more engaging and require more inputs and thought. For once, I actually had to switch my brain on for specific platforming sections or puzzles. They should definitely expand on the difficulty levels present in Frontiers. An easy mode shouldn't exactly hold your hand for the whole game. They should consider other accessibility settings in general imo. Great video, though!

You don’t understand Sonic.

I think the way they did it in heroes with team rose, sonic and dark along side the super hard mode was perfect and is the best solution to the problem Because higher difficulty mostly result in higher replay value even though sonic generations is extremely replayable a game like Sonic mania and the classics in general are 3 times more replayable but they're much harder when you first pick them up and have a much higher skill ceiling

git gud... but also, if you want a REAL 3D Sonic experience, play Spark The Electric Jester 3 on PC.

Aside from the perfect parry, final horizon was actually a breath of fresh air for me, because of the added difficulty...

i won’t defend sonic generations rank system but i will say the red rings do a good job of incentivizing replay-ability

I’m an average Sonic fan here, a gripe I had with the Sonic franchise, even though I like it, I feel like the problem is nowadays is that Sonic Team is more focused on hardcore fans of the franchise, than the average Sonic fans. Don’t get me wrong, it’s great. But it shouldn’t appeal to solely that, fans & the average consumer should be satisfied. And the difficulty problem proves my statement.

I generally think the games have gotten too easy as of late. Its not like the games were that hard earlier on, but they at least expected you to get substantially better at the game the farther you got in them, and there was even greater difficulty yet by putting greater emphasis on acquiring S ranks. With Colors there was a very noticeable drop in the difficulty of the game and that was compounded in Generations with some of the easiest S ranks in the entire series. Then in games like Forces or Colors Ultimate lives were done away with. Frontiers at launch was a little better mainly in that it had a handful of S ranks that were a challenge to get. The Final Horizon update was a massive breath of fresh air to me in that it was the first time in a while in the series that asked for a certain level of execution to get through certain points. The only instance i think was too much was the master koko trial and the perfect parry on bosses that weren't designed with it in mind. but the platforming challenges particularly the towers and some of the new cyberspace levels asked for much more awareness and understanding of your surroundings and abilities to get through quickly. and with the lack of a lives system, there is very little in terms of punishment for failing other than having to redo a portion again, which is standard for the genre so most complaints about difficulty regarding those comes more off like those upset they can't breeze through it like they could the prior games.

It should be why the ranking system exists in the first place. It gives players different tiers with varying difficulty to aim for. It is mostly that the highest rank is not challenging enough for most games with only a few exceptions like SA2, Unleashed, and even Dream Team.

Hi daviron, I'm a big fan i hope i can one day talk to you in a discord server that would be so fire 🔥

06:34 and GUESS WHAT!!! I'm still stuck on it and since I'm playing on extreme mode I CAN'T switch the difficulty to make it easier, and what's bother me the MOST with it is the fact that if I fail I die and if I fail to Wryvern I must come back to Giganto AGAIN!!! I know I want difficulty that's why I enjoyed Kaizo level even if I can't do it but THIS!!! It's just too hard that's NOT FUNNY ANYMORE

0:00 And so am I

(Replying here) I think Superstars also lacks in truly original zone themes along with the general art direction (the fully original zones in Mania blow Superstars' themes out of the water IMO, other than Cyber Station perhaps). Most of the other zones in Superstars felt to me like some prior theme given a bit of a new twist, not unlike Mania's Act 2's. Some of the music was pretty disappointing as well. But indeed the game can still be fun to play, it's still speedier with more routes than other platformers so it fills that Sonic niche. Definitely still overall decent.

Chemical zone act 2 was such pain for me back in the day

I agree that the ranking system for Generations isn’t good, but only for the base stages alone. The challenges are time based, and the ones where you race your ghost for each stage is pretty challenging to S rank. Generations also has online leaderboards. So that alone provides incentive to want to speed through levels.

You are right I feel like they try over corrected difficulty curve from the fans feedback saying sonic games need more hard difficulty than it starting a thing where players complain it’s too hard. I think the sonic team went overkill with difficulty but not making it accessible to all players I think sonic games should have different difficulty modes make it accessible and more enjoyable to players.

6:30 Uh no, you are just complaining because they adressed your difficult complain, so they had to adress it...again. and yet you keep complaining, if you want an easy experience, pick easy, if you want a hard one, pick hard. It's not that deep

Sonic 06 along it both development production history and release date served as both cautionary tales and warnings about releasing games in anniversaries and holidays while still in development and production and not completed result in terrible gaming experience due many factors like glitches bugs technical issues poor hand and tanks controls graphical problems unpolished level design terrible loading rushed development wasted potentials horrible executions qualities and writings in hindsight theory concepts ideas and practice sonic 06 could have been the best sonic game and perhaps one of the greatest video game in video game history and one would helped redefining and revitalizing sonic franchises as whole being one of the most beloved iconic and popular gaming franchise but unfortunately due circumstances beyond anyone control and nether having time chance nor opportunity to polishing refining or improving on it qualities executions animations graphics visuals effects gaming designs levels tank controls writings production values gameplay and not realizing or reaching it full potentials resulting on not only the worst most tragic and despised sonic game but also one of the worst video game in history one that casted a dark mark tragedy and biggest waste in sonic franchise history which is really heartbreaking because I love this game in PlayStation 3 era

Just make a ranking system that's hard with linear levels, and the frontiers open zone do your suggestion.

My top 5: 1. Unleashed 2. Frontiers 3. Generations 4. Black Knight 5. Colors* *ONLY if you play the Colors DX mod which gets rid of the filler boring ass levels; if we're only talking vanilla games only, then SA1 goes in number 5.

basically like Sonic unleashed’s definition of difficult is based on skill and maneuverability and it’s dlc is based on reaction time and staying on your feet

personally, I don’t think they’re too easy or too hard just the difficulty in the way they go about the definition of “difficult” basically, the root of the problem is the Challenge philosophy Inconsistency

In sonic jam, you actually had an easy, normal and original mode for new players and older players

Bruh, Elise’s theme sounds like “My Heart Will Go On” from Titanic 😂

Wait he ACTUALLY blocked you?

Hey, you’re entitled to your own opinion. I like Update 3, and it makes me excited for the series future. But if you think it’s bad, that okay. This game is, to me, the definition of “A Beautiful Mess.”

As much as I love and defend this game, yeah, I can’t deny this definitely one of the worst looking Sonic games.

I LIKE SONIC FORCES. There I said it. I understand all of the problems, but I like it. It’s also the only game that my brother has played, so it’s the only one I can talk to him about. And Frontiers is my favorite game in the series.

I'd just like it if they went back to how they used to do it back in the 2000's where you unlocked harder variants of the stages that tested you on more of the games mechanics. Yeah it was just a couple of object swaps and some slightly altered layouts but it was still a good way to get more juice out of the levels.

How about this. A boost style ranking system using the action chains from Unleashed on the Wii. Basically preform chains and combos with the platformering to get boost energy & keep it up(think the trick system from rush but mixed in with Unleashed wii's system for getting boost. but change it so that the boost is seperate into 3 speed tiers kinda like that one cyberspace level in frontiers. That way you can do platformering that noobs can get through slowly and do or die platformering for diffculty. Keeping your boost up and chains so you just don't lose that flow or speed or keep up at the highest speed tierThat way if they continue with the easy ass ranking system they can have this as a soft diffculty selector. This is just for another boost style game like unleashed and gens tho. Prehaps it can work for open zone if mixed with the action chain challenge so its a giant speed run between the open zones to the final objective. keeping your combo up as you go in and out of future cyberspace or whatever the smaller levels are called in the next open zone

I'd just prefer if the S-Ranks alone were hard. Although Shadow Gens looks like the level's will be good they also look very easy (although it is an opening stage). This wouldn't be a problem if the S-Ranks required pixel perfect precision to require. Like imagine like Sonic Colours if you take those Chaos Control shortcut/lightspeed dashes it would give you more score akin to a wisp bonus. and if you DIDN'T take that route it would be possible to get an S-Rank however it would have to be by the skin of your teeth. That would be some good shit right there.

I think there's a lot more toxic negativity rather than toxic positivity and the majority of Sonic UA-camrs are spreading it which has gotten to the of beyond annoyance

I think the challenge of Sonic games is trying to go faster. The desire to move faster requires you to memorize the acts, hone your reflexes, and master the controls. You can go faster as long as you work for it. I think that's an "infinite difficulty" concept. It depends on the player to make the game difficult. According to the philosophy of Sonic gameplay, that's where difficulty comes from. The desire to go faster is the key to a challenge in Sonic the Hedgehog. I love the difficulty in the Frontiers' updates. I think the Sonic fans who complained are bad at the game. It's a skill issue.

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this is what happens when you mfs want difficulty in sonic frontiers SO BADLY!!! and we got the hardest in final horizon cause you mfs can't shut up! i'm afraid ya'll yap about the difficulty of shadow generations and we get another final horizon situations so just shut your mouths and everything can go in a way they should!

Easy is always better than hard

subject verb agreement bro

I believe they need a difficulty option in game, hard like unleashed, easy like generations, or a middle ground like MOST frontiers stages(some are too hard).

Free idea for people to steal: If you're making a sonic fan game and want to incorporate an easy mode, make it so that the easy mode can be switches on and off freely and adds more checkpoints to each level so newer players can digest parts of the stages in smaller bites, yet comes at the cost of not being able to unlock achievements/true ending/post game content until all of the stages are beaten with easy mode turned off. :D

funny you call final horizon's platforming unsatisfying. Final Horizon has my favourite platforming challenges in the entire series. It finally gave me content I have to put all my effort to. It's at the point the base game is just a drawn out tutorial for the main game of final horizons in my eyes.

I feel like the major problem almost every sonic game has is the fact they all feel like they have an intense difficultly spike near the half way point or end of the game. A good example is how every classic sonic game generally has an agreed on point where the levels start to drag out and get filled with obnoxious gimicks And with the 3D games it's very spacifc instatances such as the abitray 5 minute timer in rouge's sercurity hall in sa2 or how sonic and the black knight suddenly has frame perfect precision on the 2nd king aurther boss and every trial in sonic frontiers putting you at level 1 and suddenly requiring perfect parrying just to make it a challenge. There are only a handful of sonic games that i can think of that dont suddenly hit you with an obnoxious difficulty spike.

that fanbase is... much worse than gd twt