The WORST Looking Sonic Game
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Sonic Frontiers is a pretty bad looking game in terms of artstyle when compared to the rest of the series, and its far from what I and many others want for the series looking forward, so I'm here to talk about it
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I don't remember where I heard this from but apparently the platforming challenges on the open world were a "last minute" inclusion because the testers said the game was too empty and boring.
That explains why the platforming sections look "detached" from the environment and why they pop-up suddently instead of having LOD like the rest of the overworld.
So i'm not particularly worried about the next game in that regard. Sonic team knows how to make a good looking game and they can get really creative with the themes sometimes.
But of course it's sonic team so we can never be TOO certain...
They explained pop-in by telling us that Sonic is short-sighted. Probably they took inspiration for this from Kishimoto's glasses
@@TrnskaDevelopmentTeam That's not a answer for a obvious gameplay flaw, the pop-in is not story related it's a issue that should of been fixed by now.
@@TrnskaDevelopmentTeam when did they say that?
Yea as Frontiers biggest fan i have to agree. Update 3 Ouranos looks like a Roblox Obby with all those coloured platforms. The idea artstyle is Cartoony Realism, or maybe even a cel-shaded look would be nice.
I think the game visually looks nice, but in terms of style it is very unoriginal and i think having a unique style with fleshed out animations would help tremendously
Hard to say. The realism attracted so many casuals to Frontiers, and the sales showed compared to Sonic Superstars.
Frontiers sales is not maybe the visual are better. IMO superstars visual is better. But frontiers have other pros like ost, titans, open zones controls, frontiers roadmap.
@@best_mate456 The Titans would not fit in Superstars’ art style. But that’s more of a conversation of preference.
@@whaleping I’m saying frontiers titan are good I’m not saying it should be in other games
A SPONSORSHIP?!? Daviron finally sold out
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My least favorite part about the visual direction of frontiers is not just the floating assets, but the fact those assets never change design wise throughout every island, it makes the game look even more cobbled together than it already is
In my opinion the game looks good, but I totally see where you're coming from. Hopefully the next mainline game better incorporates the platforming into their environments.
although the art direction isn’t what many prefer, i love how detailed and gorgeous this game is. sonic is what makes realistic environments work. from simple stuff to the water and sand, to the huge monoliths of the ancient and archaic structures found on the islands or cyber space, there’s so much detail and beauty, it really makes you feel like the world is still while you zoom by. it’s unfortunately muddled by stuff like weird pop-in and the out of place platforms (even if they have a reason to be there lore-worse), but sonic team clearly put a lot of effort into the detail of this world and it’s so cool to inspect. hopefully the next game finds better footing, so we can see all that sonic team has to offer
Out of curiosity, where would you rank Frontiers among other Sonic games?
Close to the top of C tier in my recent list, it's a 5.5/10 for me
i think they couldve used the whole ancients' backstory to give the islands more of an unique otherwordly vibe other than just scattering a bunch of ruins and stuff. idk, we're talking about the previous home of an advanced alien civilization, maybe they could've give the islands a more otherwordly alien look similar to something like planet wisp with alien plants and stuff as a result of the ancients terraforming them to be more like their homeworld, maybe add some weird structures to the terrain. idk, even previous sonic games with a realistic artstyle such as adventure, unleashed or even 06 managed to make their settings very interesting and unique by adding some fantasy elements from time to time, i think sonic forces could've done that too
Frontiers major problem artstyle wise is that it doesn’t utilize its biomes for interesting set pieces, a huge volcano with no interesting mechanics and hardly even interactive, a desert in the second one, that again doesn’t really do much with its environment type. Enemies kinda hurt it too as most enemies in frontiers are just kinda these robots but I think it would have been cool to base some enemies off of where their location is, a robot snake or a big mechanical magma turtle or something. Whatever could give it some flair yknow
This series has inconsistent art styles you'll never know what direction They'll be taking for the future games and that's ok...because things won't get stale we just need to accept it because wheather ylike it or not sonic is such a flexible snd you can throw him in any settings and he somehow make it work
This might sound a bit weird but it could be cool for Sonic team to do something like epic games did with fortnite. I saw a video from the fn devs talking about how they made the fn artsyle and it was basically taking realistic objects and distorting their proportions. I think it could be cool to see Sonic team do something like this for the open world to try and combine cartoony and realism.
That’s just what i realisticly think Sonic team could or would do but me personally I’d love to see something even more stylized like some fan projects like Sonic utopia or s&k newtrogic panic. Although I know these artstyles aren’t for everyone I find them really cool especially newtrogic panic. It brings back that sorta edgy style Sonic had in the 90s to me. Either way the platforming segments also needa be integrated better bc it looks like a roblox obby rn😭
TLDR: Sonic team could try taking realistic things and distorting their proportions like epic did with fortnite. I’d personally like to see something even more stylized, and the platforming needs to be integrated better🙏
(The tldr still kinda long sorry😭)
They wanted hyper realism but then they cheaped out on some PS2 looking ass textures.
But the thing is if PS2 looking ass textures is all you can do, you can take it further with an added art toon style and maybe some cel shading.
This game is recent and already looks aged.
Finally someone else who notices the PS2 quality textures.
It really doesn't look like it.
Sonic Frontiers does fall short on a visual standpoint. Especially when we have games like Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart where it genuinely looks like you’re watching a Pixar movie.
Here’s an artstyle I’d like to see in the next mainline Sonic game. One that is more abstract and wacky in a similar vein to animated films from recent years like Spider-Man Into the Spiderverse alongside it’s sequel, The Mitchells vs The Machines, The Bad Guys, Puss in Boots The Last Wish, Nimona and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem. The game could have a somewhat cel shaded look, some over the top effects like cartoon looking explosions and the framerate on the characters could differ on the characters depending on the situation like Sonic would have regular framerate when jogging and when he is at top speed, his framerate would be more choppy. It would call back to Yuji Uwokawa’s artwork and the artwork for the IDW comics, such as the ones by Tyson Heese. Two games that use that type of artstyle and animation style as another point of reference are Hi-Fi Rush and Super Mario Bros Wonder. Another reason why I’d like to see this particular artstyle for Sonic is although those animated films I mentioned have a more over the top animation style, they still told stories that have mature themes while also having wacky moments and a lighthearted tone. Like finding one’s place in the world in Spiderverse, confronting death and accepting one’s mortality in The Last Wish and accepting indifference and confronting xenophobia with Mutant Mayhem and Nimona.
That’s the artstyle I’d like to see for Sonic in the near future.
You didn't credit another person for using one of their videos as like a small clip it's the third one
I desperately hope they fix the pop in the next game because I feel like it is a big issue but fans really don’t care and that makes the employees at Sonic Team look like it was acceptable so they’ll do it in the next game.
Agreed 100%, the fact that people defend it is what enables sonic teams to think it’s ok to keep cheating out on the visuals.
they already made the final patch lmao
FACTS!!!
Sonic team attempting for the switch to be playable while it is playable is the main reason why is looks horrible
Compare to the ps4 is so much worse
Sonic team need to decide that the switch must not be playable for this sequel
I did notice the issue before coming out. The character and the background have two different styles and this is a problem.
Sonic 2006 also suffers from a similar issue.
As someone who is a sonic fan in ip and media but haven’t played many games. I’ve enjoyed frontiers for the fact I just wanna run as sonic but it’s just feels a lil too easy for what it is
Me personally, I would actually prefer a world like Jet Set radio or Hi-Fi rush. The art style in these games match modern sonic’s style perfectly.
All of the floating cubes, platforms, etc made Update 3 look like a Roblox obby.
I also believe that Kishimoto getting inspired by "Only Up" and "Getting Over It" for the towers was a terrible idea.
It's a platform game
floating cubes made it feel more cyber-y imo
I'm not a fan of the, "that's the point" argument. It may be the point, but it doesn't make it any better.
No, it's not a bad looking game, you're just mean. I get it, it's your opinion, but still.
you're*
@@Daviron What?
@@Sonicp1356he was correcting your grammar
@@aydinthebeastburke5967 Sure he was.
The reason why I love frontiers is not really the visual. Is the other great thing that frontiers offers.
He ranks 5.5/10 which I think too harsh IMO
Frontiers does not hit the standard for a good game but having its own ambitions and make it successful is a greater bonus. 9/10 for me especially for final horizon
As much as I love and defend this game, yeah, I can’t deny this definitely one of the worst looking Sonic games.
You got a Sponsor? That’s crazy considering your size, never seen someone under 10K subs get one, congratulations.
Shoutout to the mods that make this not look like a PS3 title-
If you want a game that’s basically Sonic Frontiers but good. Play Solar Ash.
Also, Sega needs to let Sonic Team go Crash Bandicoot 4 at some point for Sonic
Wow... that's your solution just end the sonic team? How's this solve any problem!?
@@user-vt6dd4kz5t Pay attention to what I've written. I said to let them go all Crash Bandicoot 4, meaning let them go all out with the art and gameplay.
@@Mister_Don888 The problems is that Sonic Team just, doesn't have the ways to go as wild as Crash Bandicoot 4.
Sonic Team is very small so, except if SEGA finally gives them budget, it might be difficult to go that way.
... Even then, how big could SEGA's budget be? SEGA isn't Activision...
@@Mister_Don888 yeah....I feel so stupid right now
@@SoraKingdom3 I call BS to that sonic team is atleast around 400 people!!!(According to takashi lizuka himself the head of sonic team) so That's not a small team my friend speaking of budget after the massive success of sonic frontiers if you followed news Sega decided to basically higher more developers(more manpower and talent) and more higher budget for sonic team(again.. I'm not making these up I just saw all of it from the official news) + quality control focus (according to midori' leak aka one of the most credible leaker in the sonic community with a good reputation) and we can see it's results with sonic X shadow generations(just how high quality shadow generations it shows it's a high budget game and had the quality focus it needed) so no fam....you can't use the excuse of sonic team doesn't have enough budget or a small team... if they want to go crash 4 art style or something they definitely can they just don't want to go for the super cartoonish art-style.
While yes your right, it doesn't really bother me because there's a lot to do in each island( please pin)
Sonic Superstars still looks like a 3ds game
The game has broken lighting system and a worse LUT compared to the beta footage. If you're playing Frontiers on PC I highly recommend installing these mods to get a better visual experience:
-Fix Shadow stuttering (HMM Code)
-Cinematic LUTs (mod that improves the lighting system);
-Improved Day/Night cycle (mod that fix shadows not aligning correctly to the position of the sun/moon, and other minor bugs)
-Island Tweaker (mod that customized pop in of platforms in Open Zone, and other things. The de facto mod for Sonic Frontiers);
-Reimagined Platforms (mod that replaces all floating pkatforms for a new design that better matches the ruin aesthetics of the islands. Really helps with immersion)
-Fall foliage Ouranos (paints Ouranos Island orange. Makes it more distinct from Kronos and Rhea).
And another mod to change the textures of Cyberspace levels, to make them look more original. I recommend Cyberspace Encore mod.
I love how you promoted Honkai Star Rail because it's interesting to see a comparasion between the good visual style of Honkai and bad one of Sonic Frontiers.
Maybe it's one of reasons why Genshin Impact won.
Nah
I agree so much with this point. I hate how frontiers looks visually, while the graphics and lighting make the game look good, the art style feels bland and lifeless using generic environments with no fun or cool twists like the older games. The platform’s don’t help at all none of it fits the environment I wish they could’ve added new textures for them depending on the island but even then doesn’t change the fact there just floating in the air. I really like frontiers but the visuals make it lack an identity with generic area themes and reused level themes that have been reused for a while.
how is it bland with all the structures like those pyramids and stuff?
ngl the world is bad but the cyber aesthetic
Dude stop over exaggerating your titles for clicks and views.
I want exaggerated realism for the future Sonic games like Adventure or Unleashed but I wouldn't mind Sonic Team experiment a new style as long as the Sonic characters and world fit well and have their own good unique identity. Hell for a 2d Modern Sonic game, I would like Sega to use Lizardcube engine (The devs who made Street of Rage 4 and now doing the new Shinobi) for a new 2d Modern Sonic game or other spinoff. For cartoony stuff, leave it for the Classic Sonic side if Sega/Sonic Team still wants to bring him back
i don't think cartoony worlds would go good with the plot, seeing how as the plot is darker than a lot of other sonic games of the 2010s and 2020s (nvm forget this comment i missed the point of the video)
Not a great take...
i believe they need to have a fantasy style.
Honestly sonic frontiers wasn't the best looking game for its time but I think it's because of money reasons and that it wasn't that high budget but that really didn't bother me that much. 😅
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The game looks almost like an unreal engine game with the Forces model placed in a realistic environment
Tbh it still doesn't look that bad
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Sonic needs new models. Tails is probably the best looking one, but sonic amy and knuckles just look so off. Anytime sonic smirks he looks creepy.
🙄
Still better than Sonic 06
Bro dosen't know heroes or forces
Heroes is not bad looking ?
@@Amperedz19245 plastic characters, horrible cgi cutscenes, goofy animations
@@Blue007prime yeah and you'lle have to like it for liking it ig (personnaly I really love the Heroes model), yeah no, clearly not they're not horrible and I find them very charming despite that we've got clipping and things like that and goofy animations ?..? Tbh In heroes I don't remember an animation that I can call goofy, the only problem I can say is that the animations sometime could have give more personnality to the characters. However I do find this a lot better than Frontiers, Frontiers has a weird aesthetic to me, cartoony characters in a realistic world is not a thing that appeals to me and for this reason I'm not opposed to SEGA creating a new model, maybe a bit more realistic or just make the world more cartoon lol. Also the animations in the cutscenes are very stiff but that's a problem since the meta era unfortunatly. Frontiers is not an ugly game by its graphics it's just that the aestheticc doesn't appeal to me in the least but SEGA tried something new so I can atleast give them credits for that. If SEGA gives a better budget in the future than I think that it would be a great W for the franchise!
Graphically, Frontiers is very beautiful. But as a Sonic Frontiers fan, I can agree that the visual art style for the game is very ugly and mediocre.
When this game was announced, i said this game looked like a soulless unreal engine grass land with nothing sonic like in it at all and i got called a blind hater for wanting a sonic game to not look like a generic corporate cookie cutter knockoff of Breath of the Wild
ah yes botw invented grass and ruins
It's simple really. The more Iizuka chases trends from other unrelated (AAA games this time) the more the Sonic IP erodes away from the game.
I don't get why he loves chasing what other popular games instead of strengthening the Sonic Core Values within the games which is what people came for in the first place.
We can only pray Kishimoto puts the reins on him next time..
nuh uh
Yuh uh
Maybe because the game was rushed 2:59
The graphics and gameplay in sonic frontiers are better than generations in every way boohoo you like the game we get it its not about you😂
Ok? Nobody said the graphics were bad, his argument was that it lacks a visual identity and thus looks generic. The lighting and actual terrain look nice sure but it doesn't have character, it doesn't feel like sonic.
If you like it, that's fine, but is it neccesary to try and be condescending just because you disagree?
"better than generations in eveery way"
LMAOOOOO
@@Iraqi_Potato_Chips daviron is condescending himself soooo
@@kao7143 i disagree but even so. That doesn't constitute the original comment being an ass
@@Iraqi_Potato_Chips the comment was bad i agree-
but all of daviron's videos lately have been basically talking down to his audience, and its a shame because i used to enjoy his content but around 2023 he just started to sound way more condescending and aggressive and idk, he fell off imo
if you enjoy his channel more power to you but i unsubbed and he's not as enjoyable as he used to be
More frontiers hate and I'm here for it 😍
Shut up
Wtf
I think The reason why frontiers look so bland it's because Sega wanted to be more of Zelda look than sonic
No it can’t be that reason
More like sonic team wanted to create an ultra realisim world for sonic
Good video and I agree