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Great review and information.

i hope your vids dont all turn into foil drive. I watched all your vids from ep. 1 I have been foiling 1 month and surfing over 30 years. It would be good to have a channel that tried more wings and more boards. A channel I could watch to see witch things would make PRONE surfing easier (more fun).

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45 surfing my hole life what turned me off to foiling is the kookie arm swinging so learning to foil 1 month now i try to keep my arms to my side.

Looks like no more Omen partnership?

I've just started my foil and foil drive journey and it's been quite depressing! You guys and other channels make getting up on foil and gliding look effortless. On my Armstrong CF1600 and 90l board I've just managed to do ONE full olie up glide down after 4 hours in water (I could motor around immediately just not olie up) . Having never foiled before once I pop out on foil I just have no idea what to do next so I either plonk down or fly off. Unfortunately there is very limited content on helping people like me who are new to foils

Great video! How do you feel on the 75 cm mast? Do you sometimes wish it was a bit longer to give you more foilable space before hitting the pod? Thanks!

I’m 100kg and using a 60L Omen Flux board with the Foil Drive Assist Plus (previous version) in fresh water with the FD at 20cm. I’m using the Axis 1300 (1700 sq cm) and 1050 (1500 sq cm) foils and it’s easy to get up. When I dipped down to the Axis 1201 (1400 sq cm and super HA), I had to paddle my hands. The Omen Flux is a great board for this stuff. I’m not a skilled surfer, pumper, or foiler but I’m having a blast catching small bumps.

Great video Dave!

Great review! - I know it's a year old so i imagine you have extra value add experience. I am in Perth WA on the CODE. Loving it. I'm looking to buy another whole foil set for my son. I'm looking to mix it up and I see Unifoil riders with a style i really like. Have you tried other brands. I'm almost linking waves but find at 150lb, the CODE 850s is a tad small to pump back out and the 980s is a little too much to control. Any feedback is welcome. Best, Damo

Hello and thank you for this review, what volume and size would you recommend for a weight of 163..? Beginner foil drive 🤙

Welcome to the FD fam, homie 😎 🤙

Great breakdown of the gear Dave 🤙

More than 5000 euros for a battery and a small electric motor 🤔

How does it go in 36 L?

Stoked to see you using the FD to pull into those waves!

I really like your video. Again one of the most important topics when using Foildrive I think. Which board to use? I think it might help people to save money if they see videos like yours! I've gone through 5boards😅😵‍💫🤑learning on Foildrive. I don't want to sound too smart because you obviously have a great background on Foilsurfing and analysing boards. Let me add from my much reduced horizon in only Foildriving like an addict though😅. I've just recently discovered that length and little rocker beats volume of the board. Yes they do say that in Foildrive videos! 😊And it's true. I could not believe that they were succeding with 30l prone boards. I've coincidentally tried my 2019 Kite Foil Board 4'10" 18.5" 2.5" 30l. And I am soooo stoked how easy it starts and forgiving it is. A bit wider nose. You do however increase the swing weight putting the mast further back..I wanna say. And I skipped the shimming since it would just make the nose climb up to much starting. I tried to get almost as far forward with the mast position as when foiling without Foildrive. If you wanna do more snappy turns...try the Foildrive Slim 15cm cable length. It's like having no Foildrive attached. Pumping gets much better and no swing weight . I thought I needed volume but now I now it's a lot about the rocker, the nose..the volume distribution 😂..as you pointed out in another video. I'm a fan. 😎 Stefan

Another reference for all of you around the 180 lbs. I use the the next size up on the Omen Flux, the 60L. It has great design characteristics for integration with Foil Drive and is really easy to get on foil and recover from touch downs when on foil. I am 180 lbs, 5'9 and use most of the Axis Spitfire wings in surf/wave conditions.

I really think this is a far too less talked about topic! It for sure took a lot of testing! May I add that I feel wider noses create more swing weight, but get on a plane very well. A narrower nose and tail give more control in higher speed. With a narrower nose you can get more pressure on the inside frontwing's tip..which is so nice bottom turning. 🤝

It looks a lot like the F-one SK8 only maybe thinner and not in so many sizes. And they both look a lot like my own design. Only after making it and riding it I found a lot of similar plan form foils. I know why the sweep back, there's a few good reasons that work even better with smaller foils for people who are more experienced. The reviews of the Omen Operator, the F-one SK8 and my own feelings on my latest design all share that the wing is smooth through turbulence and great in gybes. This outline with the tapered chord tips, the 7.8 to 8 aspect ratio gives a lot of agility but also that glide potential when paired with a thinner chord. Mine has pointier tips and likely thinner tips than both the Omen operator and the SK8. I think the SK8 is possibly only chord scaled for it's thickness, my one has extra progressive thinning further out and I did mine all in low modulus carbon, that flex is what gives it smoothness through the gybes and turbulence. I think the SK8 uses internal glass fibre, that will give flex even if the chord is thicker. Omen Operator is reputed to be very thin and high modulus. There's no doubt in my mind that there are a group of us designers who are on to something special with these late generation foils.

looking really good on your surfing and especially foam hits, making it look effortless.

Nice video. That board looks sweet and as you said you are not giving it back. I think you will be even more pumped about your Foil Drive. You will be catching 10x more waves on your Omen with a FD and be less tired. It's the best hack machine out there. You do a really nice job with your videos and I also think your number of views and subscribers will easily double if you start creating content with FD. There's many of us that want to learn more tips and tricks to prone foiling and downwinding with a FD. I think your surfing background plus your prone foiling skills will allow you to create some really good FD content.

So whats the difference between this board and your 1. one from Amstrong...!??

You’re going to end up with every size of flux. Can’t wait til you start sup paddling. I rarely prone anymore.

i have started analyzing tail rocker of the boards , duotone and gong are flat, seems afs are flat too i"ve seen a guy on a sls downwinder and a afs silk , fone got a 0.95 degree fw , i wonder if you could check on your boards ? i dont know why i keep buying setup that are no compatible with each other and have to shim the topplate . i've seen surfoiler with cool setup badly tuned they still manage ! it's very awkward to lean back to surf foil really shitty i will even say. 🤙yeww

Thanks man! I haven't tried swimming but now understand the effects of positive or negative and why to choose one or another.

What is the difference in angle of front and back foil without shim? (or 0° shim) I'm expecting that the "+" shim increases the angle, and the "-" shim decreases the angle. Not that the "-" indicates a negative angle between front and back foil...

it's all compromise, i tried without top plate shim on my crappy setup and it was unrideable and i rided like that few month board dropping instantly if i dont lean back, now i found the right setup and it's so much more confortable to have front foot, im full forward on my setup there is not other choice. i used a fone wing rocket-s to surf foil recently had to move it a little bit forward to improve take off as i was missing a lot of wave, take off was good but front foot was too huge ! it's not easy to find the right setup ! btw now let try a top plate shim tutorial haha 😅

Love this Dave! Great insight from a surf perspective

awesome, well-constructed commentary

Any reason for not using a leash?

Great content, lots of insights. Keep 'em coming 🙌

I think you tried to make a short but it’s was too long 07 sec too long 😅 happy to see yoy come back !

Good review, I like the garage chat/water footage! 🤙🏼🤙🏼

The first half of the video makes a lot of sense to me and is very helpful. I got lost at about 4:08. How does the narrowness of the planing area influence responsiveness and front foot/back foot pressure? Once you’re on foil, other than touching down or clearance in turns, it seems like bottom contour is irrelevant. Thanks in advance for explaining this in more detail!

Amazing ride and progression! Where are you located in NJ?

It looks a bit like the latest Omen. They are both thin. This one has a little more sweep back at the ends and also the anhedral weakens closer in from the tips in this one. I have my own design finishing up on the 3D printer and it's slightly closer to this one except I have more anhedral curve in the middle and thinner tips at a different angle. All planforms that should shred. I was surprised how much forward of the mast this is though, it makes it more turn resistant.

Chimes make gentle noises in the wind, chines are angles on hulls of boats and boards

Love the video! What advice do you have for an eFoiler looking to branch into the prone foil discipline? Would you recommend starting behind the boat first? I currently ride a 4’2 lift pro.

Awesome review. What's your weight? I'm shopping for a hybrid prone/wing board in the 45L-50L range for 83kg/185 lbs or so. I normally wing an Appletree Jazz 60L and my prone board is an Appletree Pro Foil V2, but I'm struggling a bit a 37L with with. I want a bit more foam. I wish the rear strap inserts weren't offset like this. I like the idea, but I ride switch a lot, so having a straight strap at the back is kinda important to me. @omenfoils

I love the editing that went into this! Very well executed!

Go Dave!💥🤙

Dark shirt and shorts hide the wing shapes and contours. Just suggesting 7:39 7:41

Very cool foil system. Definitely interested in trying one of these

Love the 850. Easy to ride, rips turns and fast! Great review!

Just a heads up the audio is extremely low volume.

Really enjoying going through your videos from the start. What Unifoil setup (mast, wing, fuse, tail) would you recommend getting into prone? I am a midlength surfer, love winging in waves so have foil experience, and weigh 145lbs. Live in Wilmington NC. Thanks!

yah.. just started to learn to wing in Thailand. humbling for sure... been surfing for 30 years.. .suping for 7.... humbled... but excited to keep going!

Hi great comparison. If possible could you confirm the distance from the tail to the kick pad?

In other words workout get in shape right ride a narrow board 🤙🏽🍍🤓