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Chris Rooke
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 31: Gearbox Internals Inspected
This is one of a series of videos covering the full dismantling, restoration and rebuild of a Norton Commando engine and gearbox. This particular video shows the internals of the gearbox - shafts, bearings, bushes, gears, selector forks etc. being checked for wear and damage before the gearbox is reassembled.
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Matchless Model X: Ride out with Wendy!
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With the Matchless Model X seemingly running well, apart from a slight problem with starting it when hot, I took it out again for another test ride, and for my friend Wendy to take her first ride on her new Himalayan so as to get used to it before setting off to the isle of Man TT in a coupe of weeks' time. Another beautiful Sunday! But all was not to go to plan...
Matchless Model X: First Ride Out!
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Having fully serviced my 1937 Matchless Model X over the Winter it was finally time to take it for its first run of the year. I had a great ride and the bike ran really well, with many of the problems it had suffered from when I bought it now sorted. However, one problem remained - it was very hard to start when hot. Despite this I still had a wonderful ride in the Spring sunshine, with Derbysh...
Matchless Model X: Starting problems...
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Having fully serviced my 1937 Matchless Model X over the Winter it was finally time to start it! - But it wouldn't start! After a bit of checking I discovered that my newly reconditioned magneto wasn't working - no spark at all! I therefore had to send it back to Tony Cooper to have another look at it. On its return the bike started, but ran very badly, so I decided to strip the carb to give it...
Triumph Trident T160 - Finished!! Lessons Leant
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This 1975 Triumph Trident t160 that I rebuilt the engine of is now finished! It's been quite a job, with problems with the carbs and the engine burning oil badly to begin with, but we've made it and the bike now runs beautifully! I've learnt a lot along the way (every day is a school day, no matter how much you already know) and I'm so pleased that despite all the obstacles it's now a beautiful...
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Test Ride Out!!
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I rebuilt the engine of this Triumph Trident T160 recently and although it ran well, the engine was smoking badly. I thought it was due to the piston rings not having bedded in and so took it apart again and had the cylinders re-honed and new rings fitted. However, the engine smoked just as badly! I therefore took the engine apart again (!) and discovered that the problem was actually that the ...
Matchless Model X: Cylinder Heads Refitted
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Over the Winter I Decided to try and sort the Matchless Model X out properly. The bike was running, but there were still a lot of things that needed doing to get the bike properly sorted. Having removed the cylinder heads to fit new cylinder head gaskets and paint the the heads and barrels it was now time to re-fit them to the engine - but how what should the cylinder head bolts be torqued down...
Matchless Model X: Petrol Pipe Fitted and Fuel Taps Mended
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Over the Winter I Decided to try and sort the Matchless Model X out properly. The bike was now running, but there were still a lot of jobs to be done. As part of that work I decided to replace the petrol pipe as it had a big, plastic fuel filter that I didn't like, and also to mend the fuel taps by fitting new cork seals as they were both weeping fuel
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Update Update!
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I'm currently in the middle of rebuilding an 850 Norton Commando engine - or at least I've just finished stripping the engine down. However, I've had to pause the rebuild for a while as another bike I've been working on, a Triumph Trident T160, has a badly smoking engine following its rebuild and I need to get that sorted before I can go back to the Commando engine. In the meantime the seasons ...
Matchless Model X: Parts chromed, painted and adapted!
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Over the Winter I Decided to try and sort the Matchless Model X out properly. The bike was now running, but there were still a lot of jobs to be done. Part of the work was to have some parts chromed and others re-chromed, and some parts repaired and painted. This video shows the work in progress
Matchless Model X: Cylinder Head Refurb and Ignition Timing
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Over the Winter I Decided to try and sort the Matchless Model X out properly. The bike was now running, but there were still a lot of jobs to be done. I therefore stripped some parts off the bike to have them re-chromed or chromed, the cylinder heads were removed to replace the leaking head gaskets (and repaint the barrels and heads), the carburettor serviced to improve starting and the toolbox...
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Valve Guide Update
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I rebuilt the engine of this Triumph Trident T160 recently and although it ran well, the engine was smoking badly. The general consensus was that the piston rings hadn't bedded in properly (as is sometimes the case with Tridents especially) and they would require replacing and possibly the barrels re-honed. However, having done all that and reassembled the engine (again) the damn thing was stil...
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Smoking Engine Sorted!!!
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I rebuilt the engine of this Triumph Trident T160 recently and although it ran well, the engine was smoking badly. The general consensus was that the piston rings hadn't bedded in properly (as is sometimes the case with Tridents especially) and they would require replacing and possibly the barrels re-honed. However, having done all that and reassembled the engine (again) the damn thing was stil...
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Update
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I'm currently in the middle of rebuilding an 850 Norton Commando engine - or at least I've just finished stripping the engine down. However, I've had to pause the rebuild for a while as another bike I've been working on, a Triumph Trident T160, has a badly smoking engine following its rebuild and I need to get that sorted before I can go back to the Commando engine. I'm currently stripping the ...
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Engine Still Smoking!!!
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I rebuilt the engine of this Triumph Trident T160 recently and although it ran well, the engine was smoking badly. The general consensus was that the piston rings hadn't bedded in properly (as is sometimes the case with Tridents especially) and they would require replacing and possibly the barrels re-honed. However, having done all that and reassembled the engine (again) the damn thing is still...
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Fitting the Rocker Boxes
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'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Fitting the Rocker Boxes
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Fitting the Cylinder Head
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'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Fitting the Cylinder Head
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Cylinder Barrel Refitting. Part 2
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'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Cylinder Barrel Refitting. Part 2
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Cylinder Barrel Refitting
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'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Cylinder Barrel Refitting
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Cylinder Barrel Removal
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'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Cylinder Barrel Removal
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Cylinder Head and Rocker Box Removal
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'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Cylinder Head and Rocker Box Removal
'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Smoking Badly!
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'75 Triumph Trident T160 - Smoking Badly!
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 30: Engine Cases Polished!
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 30: Engine Cases Polished!
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 29: Removing the Swinging Arm and Isolastics
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 29: Removing the Swinging Arm and Isolastics
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 28: Gearbox Dismantling - Final
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 28: Gearbox Dismantling - Final
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 27: Removing the Gearbox Internals
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 27: Removing the Gearbox Internals
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 26: Removing the Inner Gearbox Casing
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 26: Removing the Inner Gearbox Casing
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 25: Removing the Gearbox Mainshaft and Sprocket nuts
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 25: Removing the Gearbox Mainshaft and Sprocket nuts
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 24: Removing the gearbox Outer Cover
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 24: Removing the gearbox Outer Cover
Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 23: Removing the gearbox
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Norton Commando Engine Rebuild. Part 23: Removing the gearbox
They are not so bad to start! Lovely bike.
There are FOUR drain holes at back. Two you helpfully have shown, and two more - one each side immediately behind door opening, to drain when the car is parked facing downhill.
Great video, thanks. What are you using on the gaskets, do you just add it the casing or to the surface of the gasket as well, and how long does it stay workable?
I always use Stag Wellseal. It is non hardening and so never ever sets, but stays liquid. That means it lasts pretty much forever. Apply with a small craft brush to both faces, leave to go off for a couple of minutes, and then assemble. I swear by it.
@@Chris.rooke150 I've just ordered some. As soon as you mentioned it I remembered a friend, a former engineer, had recommended it some time ago but I'd forgotten the name. I'll be using it on the casings on my T140 - I believe the gearboxes are much the same.
, they come apart easy and go back the same the only frustrating thing can be lining up the push rods while fitting the cylinder head. Use FAG bearings and you won't have to touch the bottom end again, regular half interval oil changes and if your engine doesn't have an oil filter fitted it might pay to fit one but I think all 850 models came with the filter system fitted.
Thanks so much for this….We were lucky that the floor under the drivers side was flooded……will follow your advise.
Good luck! It's pretty straightforward and completely stopped our leaks overnight! 👍👍
With regard to the sleeve gear on the MK3 with the circlips on the sleeve gear they used longer bushes, 1.2" rather than the 0.88" bushes on the earlier models I upgrade to these and locate them with Loctite, I have had no issues to date, looking at the engine number, it looks like this engine gearbox is from a fairly late MK2A, so is a cross over model, so could have been fitted with the later sleeve gear from new, my MK2A has some MK3 features. Isn't the circlip off the main shaft for locating the clutch, it is listed in the parts book inn the clutch section rather than the gearbox section.
That's great info, thanks. Yes, the circlip is indeed in the clutch section of the parts catalogue! I found it! - but I wasn't expecting it to be there, although as it is for the rear of the clutch to mount onto, as you say, it does make sense to put it there. 👍 As for the sleeve gear being fitted from new, I'm not so sure - someone has definitely been in there and fitted 3 bushes to it, so the gear itself may well have been replaced.
Whats your opinion about the one seal option on the main output bearing. My 70 Commando had the metal cover on one side so I ordered one from andover with the black one side seal cover. do you think it could starve the output shaft seal of oil or is there a good reason to use it. thanks good show.
Thanks for your comment - I'm not sure about the seal upgrade. When I get to it I'll check and post about it. 👍
@@Chris.rooke150 thanks
Fascinating content. Roll on the assembly episode. Who would design a gearbox case with such an obvious point of failure? No drip tray under the Honda lol.
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Hello again chris
Hi there! It's good to be back! 😁
That is absolutely terrible. Appalling work! When I built my T150, I was advised to supply the biggest oversize valve guides available, and my then chosen machine shop would machine them to size. That’s because there was no guarantee that all the holes for the guides would be all the same size. I am glad that you found the problem.
Hi Chris. Did you check the spark plugs to see if it was one cylinder in particular that had the problem? If a valve guide was allowing too much oil into the combustion chamber, you will get an idea of which cylinder is at fault. Rob vW
Good job mate
Stunning! Just Stunning.
I have one of these bike but in black . They are just awesome mine has a 5 peed box even better .😎👌
Utterly superb! Many thanks for producing this.
Absolutely brilliant video. Thank you so much!
Glad you found it useful. 👍
Both versions of the Trident, a Commando and a Z1 - my dream collection. Top marks, 11/10.
Thanks - I'm very lucky. 👍👍👍
I had similar problems with a vintage DelOrto carb, it was vapour blased and cleaned and the bike would start but it wouldn't produce power, all it wanted to do was stall when the clutch was let-out. It was a blocked air passageway, took me ages to finally dig that deep but once that was cleared she ran beautifully. The number of times you see people on UA-cam restoring a bike but give up on the carbs and buy replacements when it's pretty sure it's just blocked air passageways and relatively easy to fix. The Bike BTW is gorgeous.
Thanks. 👍
I want one now 😊
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I had this issue in the early eighties. It was smoking, so I stripped it down and had the bores honed, with new piston rings, valves and guides then took it to the IOM for Mike Hailwood's last TT, but it was still smoking. I stripped it down at the camp site (!) and found some sealant had got into an oilway form the cylinder head, which eventually forced the oil down the valve guides, just like yourself! But that wasn't the real reason. I remember going up on the mountain from Ramsey Square and not being able to see the bottom of the hill! I eventually took it to Clive Humphries, a Triumph specialist in Coventry for an assessment. His report was that out of the whole engine and gearbox, there were only two bearings still serviceable. So a complete rebuild, and no smoking whatsoever! In the end it was a design problem - with the engine being effectively one and a half Triumph 500s cobbled together, cooling was an issue, with the centre cylinder running hot. The solution from Triumph was to run the centre cylinder rich!!! In addition the exhaust clamps were a heat trap, so worn vales and guides was regular issue. The Trident, particularly the T160 was a fantastic bike when it ran, but there were so many issues because it was bodged together to try and compete with the Honda CB750. Swopping the gear change to the left was another such bodge, requiring the clutch to operate via a pushrod running the full width of the gearbox, with the pushrod being little more that a knitting needle, so the bike was constantly afflicted with a dragging clutch! Engineering wise, it wouldn't have actually taken much to make the engine water-cooled, with twin overhead cams. But that wasn't how the British Bike industry of the time did things!
"They all do that, sir." Have a friend who spent years, and many pounds, trying to sort his T150. It's still off the road.
My trident has the same problem, doesn't like to start when it's hot...it's a particular problem when I fill up with gas.
Whats the name of the second cafe please ?
That's the wonderful Old Smithy tea rooms in Monyash (But keep it to yourself! 😉)
You have an EXCELLENT sense of video production! Love that rear view by the lower frame! Great capture of the surroundings and the immediacy of the moment! Well done, Chris! Thank you!
Thanks! That's really kind of you! Much appreciated. 👍👍👍
That engine sounds wonderful. Wow I am impressed and really jealous!
The Matchless is a lovely looking bike, but it’s certainly making you work to get it 100%.
Yes, two steps forward, one step back. But I've an idea what the problem might be with the engine - I'll keep you posted. 👍
A Vincent twin with a polished engine will be a Rapide, Black Shadow has the Black engine, Black Lightning is a race bike, there were only about 3 dozen made and almost certainly none on the road. If you are having to have the choke full on to run there must be a major air leak or carb problem. I've given up with trying original carbs on my 11-50 Brough Superior and use a concentric, better to have it running nice than looking "correct".
Ah, yes a Rapide! Thanks for the info. I have a theory on the Matchless problem. Waiting to get back from hols to try it out.
I agree with regards to replacing the original carb with a concentric. Hats off to Chris for trying to keep it original but in my humble opinion it’s time to give the original carb pride of place on display in the garage and get a Premier concentric or even a monobloc
It appears to be all talk, and no action
Maybe it's because the servicing is in 4 separate parts, giving as much detail and info as possible rather than just skimming over things. See videos parts 17, 18 and 19 for the full (detailed!) story - with action!
Thank you, Chris! I've always wanted to see behind a Matchless/AJS primary cover to see how the mag chain actually runs. Yes, my Pre War Triumph Speed Twin also has an extremely difficult to reach magneto platform bolt. Great stuff there. Really enjoy your videos!
which handlebar kit have you got, metalastic bushes, cup, rubber washer, distance pieces, hemisperical washers... or the rigid mounting kit with no metalastic washers? i ask because i tried fitting the rubber mounted one on my t160, and couldn't tighten it up, the bars just flopped around, i'm stuck now not sure what to do.
I've got the metalastic bushes fitted on mine. They are a bugger to fit correctly, and mine were loose for a while until I sorted out the correct order of washers etc. I'm away now but when I get back I'll see if I can shed any light on the order of assembly.
Outstanding series! The problems you encountered, and resolution are what made it so special. You would have easily qualified as a chapter in Pirsig's "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". Gumption!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the vids. 👍
P.S. Soundtrack too of course👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks, again I'll be using a rear camera in future footage too that should really capture the sound. 👍
Some lovely pilot eye footage👍🏼
Thanks, sorry you can't see the speedo too well. I'll address that in future. 👍
have you still got the helmet??
Yes, still using it, and still very pleased with it. I like the flip-up style which is great for bimbles around the back lanes, and then fully closed for the A roads.
@@Chris.rooke150 thanks I think I'll get one.
Be carefull with the inspection light. I.ve heard of 2 being stolen at bike meets. Really. My mate has glued his in. Heard they go for 200 to 300
Yes, mine is also currently fixed in (which is why I didn't remove it in the video). Replacement bakelite ones are about £50, but the genuine brass replica ones are indeed about £275 (!)
@@Chris.rooke150 Another friend said there was a crowd round his bsa 500 sloper at mere brow auto jumble. Later he found they had tried to remove his steering damper. To be honest auto jumble it does.nt surprise me but bike meets does. One of lights was took at andy tiernan shop I think he said
That'sjust so out of order! All I can say is that since rebuilding my bikes I have never let them out of my sight, not even once. I don't do shows etc and only ever stop at cafés where my bike is always in my view. It's just a very sad state of affairs when you can't even trust fellow bikers.
@@Chris.rooke150 Yes it's shocking. But it must be pretty rare. Very risky for the thief. A ducati 916 was stolen at rivington bike meet prob 20yr ago. Apparently they parked a van blocking the view of busy car park and just put it in the back.
Great to see it running & running well. Teething issues are par for the course but a bit of fettling & setting up, will get it 100%. I think Frank must have worked on almost every UK motorcycle magazine.lol.
Hi Chris Stunning looking bike i was surprised its foot change, only just noticed. Cheers Baz
yes, I'm not sure when they went from hand change to foot change - maybe sometime in the late 20s or early 30s? Again, I'll ask in the Owner's Facebook group. Thanks.
Hi Chris, the little breather pipe should run into the primary chain case, well, it does on mine, there is a hole in the top of the chain case that the copper pipe fits into. Had my model X for 57 years now, the pipe has always gone into the chain case, hope this helps.
Thanks for that, very interesting. Mine doesn't ever seem to have done that, and there certainly doesn't appear to be a hole in the chain case for the pipe. I wonder if yours was modified by a previous owner? I'll ask on the Model X Facebook page and see if anyone can throw any light on this issue. I'll post on here if I get any more info. Thanks for the comment. Chris
Hey Chris, this is a little off subject. I tried to find an email address for you but no luck. I have enjoyed watching your videos. I ran across an accessory tool for torque wrenches. One of your videos you made a remark on torquing cylinder head and jug bolts that aren't possible to get a torque wrench on. I thought of your video. I watched a guy use this in a video. It seemed to work pretty good on a Norton. Its called a Motion Pro 08-0380. Rght angle flat extension that doesn't require any math and limited vertical space to use. Just the thickness of your flat wrench. I just bought one. I haven't had an occasion to use it just yet, but I think it will be a handy addition to the tool box. Cheers, awesome video's, Jack
Jack, that's great info, many thanks! I have just ordered one too! Thanks again. 👍
Welding tip cleaners are a good option to get those small holes
Hi Chris. You may be able to help with a very confusing problem i have with a T150v gearbox. all new. working fine for 300 miles. getting all 5 gears with no issues, then it started to jump out of 5th. finally you coudnt select 5th. with the outer cover off you can select all gears, cover back on cannot select 5th. Reindexed moving the quadrent both up and down a notch but then you cant select first or 5th respectivly. havent pulled the box to pieces yet but before i do i wonder if you have any advice. Thank You. Mark.
I'm afraid that it could be a number of things. To begin with you could simply replace the camplate plunger and spring under the gearbox, but ifvthat doesn't work then you'll need to strop the 'box and check for wear, especially to the camplate and selector forks. Good luck! 👍
@@Chris.rooke150 Thank you.
Try electric guitar strings for cleaning small drill holes in carbs.
Hey Jack, have you tried acupuncture needles that you can buy over the internet. They come in various gauges down to pretty damn thin. Inexpensive too.
Can you please list the books/manuals you used for this?
Above all, my Restoration Manual: How to Restore Triumph Trident T150/T160 & BSA Rocket III: YOUR step-by-step colour illustrated guide to complete restoration (Enthusiast's Restoration Manual) amzn.eu/d/41I0UPQ 😁😁😁 Plus the Triumph factory workshop manual and the factory parts catalog (available from specialist suppliers such as LP Williams, but cheaper on eBay etc) and also the folder of service notes available from the TR3OC - the Trident Owners' Club. Hope that helps. 👍
Oh, and I also used the Haynes Manual too.
A great cruiser today!
Wonderful! Tell me, what tyres are you running it on Chris?
We learned to find a professional machine shop
😂 Absolutely!
35 yeara in the bike trade I really understand really understand what you are saying Engineering and getting it right first time is my bugbear when everything goes right we ignore its only the "failures" we remember nice job bw !
Thanks. 👍
Despite the problems, I’d still love a T160V
Problems arise if everything went smoothly we would never learn anything, your perseverance has paid off gorgeous bike credit to you
It’s been a great series, watching you work through the unexpected issues that presented themselves. Top job. 👍