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Why This 7.5k Mid Player WINS 90% LANES But Loses Games
Midlane main coach explains how a 7.5k Mid player with EXTREMELY STRONG LANING SKILLS is losing games despite winning almost every lane. This video will cover the coaching session held with the student and the coach, and teach you guys how to push your advantage from a strong laning phase and when to rotate around the map.
Hope this video will serve as a useful guidance for you guys to understand how to utilize strong laning fundamentals and lane rotations. Enjoy!
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00:00 - Introduction
00:35 - Coaching Session Introduction
2:05 - Laning Phase Analysis
4:40 - Post-Laning Phase Analysis
8:36 - Early Game Phase Analysis
12:48 - Conclusion (Main Issues & Strengths)
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  • @vencalysek7847
    @vencalysek7847 21 годину тому

    What a nice coach, after seeing few BSJ videos, this is like heaven and hell. 😉 Should I ever consider getting a dota coach, you will be my pick 100%

  • @daniyarcrow293
    @daniyarcrow293 2 дні тому

    He gave us cheat shit to teach us some sheep to get some cheap shit

  • @QuickFacts876
    @QuickFacts876 2 дні тому

    I hate to be the uneducated one, but if my tier 2 is down and their tier 1 is still up, do I just try piling on the pressure on offlane and pray for help from my team? Most my games go like this - I try doing my things, farming, pulling creeps looking for clean ups.... But there aren't any clean ups because whole enemy team is fed... I can't fight them because I'll feed even more, so I farm in my trian 0:13 gle (and in other lanes if my core visits my lane) but by the time I have my items my barracks are gone. For some reason this is the way all my games went today... So I'm asking weather I suck or am I just incredibly unlucky with matchmaking

  • @PotatoGamer2385
    @PotatoGamer2385 3 дні тому

    I have one question, what are your characteristics to be declared defeated in a lane?

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 3 дні тому

      @@PotatoGamer2385 when sitting in lane means high probability of death and you don't see a way to kill the enemies anymore or shut their farm down

  • @ThanosWasRightt
    @ThanosWasRightt 3 дні тому

    Difference between those examples and my games is that on none of those examples you had a pudge pos 5. Hell, none these examples you didn't have a pos 5!!

  • @KsAtaker
    @KsAtaker 6 днів тому

    wow thank you

  • @walidkhan899
    @walidkhan899 7 днів тому

    This guy here is a GEM. A PURE GEM. Best COACH IN YT

  • @tediboy
    @tediboy 10 днів тому

    lol magnus 24:30

  • @unclewan4020
    @unclewan4020 11 днів тому

    best ever my sifu!! keep it up coach.

  • @AmbroseHsia
    @AmbroseHsia 11 днів тому

    7906 Kihn Flat

  • @Luke.Popodoo
    @Luke.Popodoo 12 днів тому

    I like the song you play at the end. Your videos have helped me so much.

  • @محمدامینآقاپوربیشک

    Man we need more of tour videos 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

  • @sewerbat4634
    @sewerbat4634 13 днів тому

    aaaa!! what voodoo magic is this??? 😅

  • @Serenity5460
    @Serenity5460 13 днів тому

    Damn, your typing skills are even more impressive than your dota coaching. And that’s really hard to beat ;) thanks for uploading!

  • @kzxkzxkzx
    @kzxkzxkzx 13 днів тому

    I have 144 points but still herald level, I think your guide is not working

  • @OliverMarian-p9w
    @OliverMarian-p9w 14 днів тому

    Martinez Jason Johnson Donald Wilson Laura

  • @ncoptwow361
    @ncoptwow361 17 днів тому

    He picked bat lastpick -_-

  • @dimmiandreus392
    @dimmiandreus392 18 днів тому

    Interesting idea of pushing the wave and aggressive farming the opponent side of the map. Farming neutrals to deny them farm and comeback.

  • @mataal8770
    @mataal8770 18 днів тому

    BECAUSE OF CRAB MENTALITY

  • @alisalehi773
    @alisalehi773 18 днів тому

    Great offlane tips, thx

  • @หรรษาชิม
    @หรรษาชิม 18 днів тому

    :D welcome back master

  • @lopex2367
    @lopex2367 18 днів тому

    As a mid player myself, it is very important to mute every one because they always expect you to rotate. But If I was destroying lane like he was, i would have stayed mid and make necro petrified even to show himself in the map. Never forget to farm while rotating, dont just camp on the side lanes. Everything is all about Mathematics.

  • @alisalehi773
    @alisalehi773 18 днів тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @omathalye3074
    @omathalye3074 18 днів тому

    Am I the only one here wondering how insane that typing speed is?

  • @THeCOMENTOR1243
    @THeCOMENTOR1243 19 днів тому

    what is this tool you use to draw on your screen in realtime?

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      @@THeCOMENTOR1243 this is EpicPen

  • @alisalehi773
    @alisalehi773 19 днів тому

    Awesome video! Thx man.

  • @alisalehi773
    @alisalehi773 19 днів тому

    Literally the most thorough pos 1 guide I've seen. Thx man, subbed 👍

  • @awakeneradwd2
    @awakeneradwd2 19 днів тому

    I am 2k mmr midlaner also, I have completely same mindset with this 7.5k mmr mid end up I always lose when I am dominate in the laning phase .

  • @Aviduduskar
    @Aviduduskar 19 днів тому

    I guess the Sven carry made Bat a good last pick but 47 secs to smoke the enemy mid Clinkz was a treat to watch!

  • @bon8484
    @bon8484 19 днів тому

    Even your hero have high mobility like qop, ember or pb? You'll stay mid and destroy the tower or it depends? I still don't know when to gank side lane. I always gank when I'm going for the rune or when the enemy is near my sidelane's tower

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      @@bon8484 high mobility heroes provide a higher chance for kills to succeed. Most of the time a TP for these heroes will almost always generate a kill. In cases where it doesn't, then yes, play for dominance or recovery in mid. Or post tower, forwards pressure past wave into enemy jungle into sidelane.

    • @bon8484
      @bon8484 19 днів тому

      ​@@BalloonDotathanks for your response, man! Looking forward for more informative videooo like thiss!

  • @asyxmusic8429
    @asyxmusic8429 19 днів тому

    Do you have tutorial for other position beside Midlane

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      @@asyxmusic8429 hello, there are plenty of guides on my channel for all roles ya

  • @d-mon666
    @d-mon666 19 днів тому

    sidelane require TP Kill not walking. deep... but i will craft into my bone

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      This is mainly for laning phase and slightly after laning phase. As the game goes on into 10+ mins, it would be inevitable for sidelane rotations to happen, not forcefully but naturally as a byproduct of forwards wave and jungle pressure.

    • @d-mon666
      @d-mon666 19 днів тому

      @@BalloonDota thank for ur further explanation. hopefully can go 5k this year <3

  • @asyxmusic8429
    @asyxmusic8429 19 днів тому

    Why your name is BalloonDota, what the history behind it

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      Hello, its hard to explain but I was looking for equivalents of 'being free'

  • @rXqasmudaRbjcFo7yJ
    @rXqasmudaRbjcFo7yJ 19 днів тому

    Wow. And here I thought 7.5k mid main players already drilled in their head that they will only move if they can get something out of it without dying. His last hit prioritization and match up understanding is definitely great. But he fell off in my eyes when i saw him not prioritizing mid and keep making unnecessary "plays" Reminds me of my playstyle before i discovered your videos.

  • @shirleyalbani8937
    @shirleyalbani8937 19 днів тому

    Whats your current mmr man? Great coaching!!

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      @@shirleyalbani8937 hi bro I'm around 8k ya, but I haven't touched ranked for some time due to coaching and other life responsibilities so its currently uncallibrated

  • @jnrs9512
    @jnrs9512 19 днів тому

    Try doing this at 3500 mmr lol. Infested with Peruvians who are not only flaming the opposite team but their own team. You ever had a clinkz hard support? I have. You ever have LC support? I have. These tips only work after you climb out of the dregs.

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      @@jnrs9512 I have taught hundreds of mid players from 0-5k mmr, these concepts I have taught to all of them and sessions are followed up frequent. So trust me when I teach these concepts cause I have seen worse.

    • @ShottsPvP
      @ShottsPvP 19 днів тому

      guy i’m 260 mmr i have seen the weirdest shit 😂

  • @Sska29
    @Sska29 19 днів тому

    Seems suspicious that this player is 7k mmr and doesn't know basics like not to dive tower for kills in sidelines and taking mid if you are crushing the lane. Even 2k players know how to do this. Looks like one of those players who get dopamine hit from dominating enemies in lane and team fights by displaying extreme mechanical skills, but don't want to care about game objectives. It's like they think "I'm too good for this shit, let my peasant teammates handle the objectives I'll get the rampage instead". Question is how did he get to 7k without already knowing these things.

    • @lzolveranymore7231
      @lzolveranymore7231 19 днів тому

      I do know those thing ofc lol, I just test my limits from time to time to not just climb mmr playing the safest way and be a 9k-10k player doing the same thing every game, I wanna level up my gameplay and knowledges at the game at the same time i climb up mmr, forcing me to be in those situations give me more pressure and more material to learn of my own replays :)

  • @josephwon6937
    @josephwon6937 20 днів тому

    Amazing video! I’ve been doing coaching with balloon since the beginning of this year. It’s amazing how all of these concepts were being taught to me as a crusader/archon and seeing it apply in the immortal bracket is crazy. Goes to show that balloons lessons will continue to benefit you as you climb

  • @tsenguun
    @tsenguun 20 днів тому

    What if the enemy mid goes to gank sidelanes since it got beaten at mid so hard? Do you still not tp there?

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      @@tsenguun You TP if there is a chance to turn things around, particularly if the fight is reachable in time to your hero. If not reachable or no chance to do anything like kill and turn fight around, then no point going over.

  • @GamerGuy1O1
    @GamerGuy1O1 20 днів тому

    Very nice video. I like this format because I get to hear both the reasoning behind an action and your explenaton why that's good/bad. I do have a question though. You mentioned that you should keep pressure mid if you're winning instead of trying to create pressure elsewhere. What should one do if you win mid, enemy is a level or two behind you, you keep up pressure mid but people don't come to you - the enemy mid ganks a sidelane and starts coming back. Are you supposed to still stay mid and farm in that situation? I've come across this multiple times - I win mid, am ahead in gold and xp over the enemy mid, I siege tower and farm either my own creep camps by T1 or the enemy's. While I do this, the underfarmed enemy mid keeps going from sidelane to sidelane, getting kills because they're in a 3v2 situation and they're still a mid with XP and gold, and they end up ahead of me in NW and XP. Even though I get mid tower while farming both lane and jungle creeps. This is the 3k bracket, so I am obviously doing things wrong, but I am curious what I should be doing in such a situation. Supports in this bracket often don't help the mid lane (both my and the enemy supports, we're all 3k, not just my teammates and enemies, me too).

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 19 днів тому

      @@GamerGuy1O1 hi bro, of course there will be case-by-case scenarios where there were perhaps situations that required you to TP in to join and turn a fight around, or a fight broke out that was reachable but you chose to stay Mid instead. The key here is as long as the enemy wave is coming to you, you have a short span of time to quickly clear it, and decide whether to move to a side lane through their jungle to gank a high chance kill / push a tower depending on if your hero sieges towers like DP, DK, or come back to mid and repeat that process on the other side of the map instead. This is by no means telling you to AFK mid and soak up farm while there were tons of openings to move to side lanes through their jungle for successful ganks or towers. That is why it is so valuable to have someone point out these scenarios to you as every situation can look different. It requires a lot of repetition and understanding of your hero's and every other hero's limits.

    • @GamerGuy1O1
      @GamerGuy1O1 19 днів тому

      @@BalloonDota thanks for the response! Of course, Dota 2 has so incredibly many variables that almost every time something happens it's to be dealt with on a case by case basis. I will try to keep in mind splitting up my attention better depending on what task I'm doing (clearing wave mid, then push tower OR clear jungle camp nearby, then reevaluate). I'm new to your channel, but it seems like I'll be sticking around. Thank you for your input and content!

  • @shauntks
    @shauntks 20 днів тому

    Doctor Balloon in action!

  • @JGYsoFly
    @JGYsoFly 20 днів тому

    This is an amazing video and reaffirms my beliefs already about mid lane and mid lane meta. It's pretty hard playing with lower mmr friends and them crying about enemy mid lane ganking (because the enemy mid is getting nothing from mid so theyre forced to roam).

  • @alisoltani729
    @alisoltani729 20 днів тому

    very constructive videos. nice bro

  • @Evdota247
    @Evdota247 20 днів тому

    heyoo this video format is so cool ty , btw this guy laning is so clean man! maybe it plays out much better on heroes like ember or TA

  • @jonathanludwig3622
    @jonathanludwig3622 20 днів тому

    very cool video, thank you for the insight!

  • @michaelgabucan4550
    @michaelgabucan4550 20 днів тому

    I feel this lol . These uploads help tremendously. Coach balloon is the man!

  • @pektuspektus612
    @pektuspektus612 20 днів тому

    👌👌

  • @lzolveranymore7231
    @lzolveranymore7231 20 днів тому

    Thats me :D And btw I´m almost 8k since our last session, games feel easier playing just focusiong on yourself, so you dont throw depending on others playstyle/skill, Love the video!

    • @Evdota247
      @Evdota247 20 днів тому

      yo yo thats hella cool plz share your dotabuff <3

    • @antonioemilio9932
      @antonioemilio9932 20 днів тому

      Have you experienced teammates deflecting the blame on you when they are losing lane even though you are dominating mid? Do you just mute or does this pressure you to unnecessarily rotate?

    • @josephwon6937
      @josephwon6937 20 днів тому

      @@antonioemilio9932yes absolutely just mute. Thinking like your teammates is a great way to stay stuck in their mmr

    • @federicocapriotti2180
      @federicocapriotti2180 19 днів тому

      ye, then you pos 1 and 2 that dont pick in picking phase then to grief they go to the same lane together and the pos 5 has to play midlane and then morph sells items and u cant do shit :)

    • @Vanqdotes
      @Vanqdotes 19 днів тому

      @@antonioemilio9932 1 good advice is here, do you talk with animals? if not then why you bother taking their opinion into consideration?

  • @forte9910
    @forte9910 20 днів тому

    You give the best theoretical advice but unfortunately for solo queue there are too many infantile teammates that don't care if you won mid, they will throw a tantrum and give up if you don't tp, even if it's the wrong play. I feel like your student feels this way too since he is trying to get his teammates involved.

    • @BalloonDota
      @BalloonDota 20 днів тому

      @@forte9910 While somewhat true, every mid student I have coached managed to shift their mindset even if it meant triggering some of their teammates. Most climbed further than they ever did after awhile and just accepted the fact that those feelings cannot be changed in order to win. This guy in the video for example got to 8k after the session in about 2 weeks time from 7.5k so I think that speaks volumes.

    • @Alex-wh3zw
      @Alex-wh3zw 20 днів тому

      You just mute and ignore the ones crying and try to do the right thing. Arguing with them never helps and most of the time people seeing how dominant you are in your lane people start listening to you.

    • @Evdota247
      @Evdota247 20 днів тому

      yaah thats so true but its just there feelings which have nothing to do with your gameplay I climbed 1k after I muted all and realized that most of there emotional calls and tantrums are bad and make no sense for your gameplay think of it as a selfish harrasment from them mute all and enjoy having a crazy networth at min 30

    • @eliaswischnivetzky4588
      @eliaswischnivetzky4588 20 днів тому

      @@Alex-wh3zw Honestly, this, since i started muting anyone that tries to micro manage me or starts insulting the games feel way more playable, hearing your teammates too much would prevent you from playing to the best of your skill level and knowledge

    • @josephwon6937
      @josephwon6937 20 днів тому

      Being quick to mute will gain you mmr!

  • @AliAj-o8u
    @AliAj-o8u 20 днів тому

    helpful as always, do more of 1 v 1 with your students, those are easier to understand.