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I'm not sure what is happening, I noticed some banding when I watched on the iPad but it is fine on my laptop. The original file on my laptop is also brighter than both. Resolve 19 beta has been giving me some headaches. I'll have to check both after the upload, I know YT does some compression but this is different.

@@Audimann Maybe there is an issue with producing other sensors at a price point that would be accepted by the market for a mid tier camera. Manufacturers have been reusing CMOS and BSI sensors for the past few generations of cameras. Sony’s A7 IV’ 33MP BSI sensor is a one off and no one else is using a FF sensor at or above that level in mid tier cameras. Faster sensors are being made to combat rolling shutter, now we have a 24MP global shutter sensor in a hybrid camera with a huge price. 24MP stacked sensors are also pricey, Canon R3 $5000, now R1 $6300, A9/A9 II $4500 (USD prices before tax), Z6 III partially stacked for $2500 and it comes with a host of features that makes it close in performance to the Z8/9. I take you are looking at this from a photographer’s perspective? Manufacturers have to based their products around the needs of today’s consumers and video plays a large role. 24MP is that sweet spot to provide up to 6K60 RAW video without needing to crop. If the market starts clamoring for 6K240 one day, a new type of sensor will need to be created to handle that and by then, the prices for camera will be higher. Let’s be real, most people would love a stacked sensor with higher resolution. Is it possible for chip suppliers to make this in sufficient yields that will cause the price to lower sufficiently to put it in a camera for the masses? At what MP, at what price? I don’t know your use case and what other technology you would prefer in a camera, if Nikon isn’t making the camera you want, there are other manufacturers that may have what you want, give them a try. I went Sony when my Z6 II wasn’t doing what I need. You’ve probably seen my videos on why I gave up the A7R V for the Z8, even though it was a pretty good performer, I recommend the A7R V, as a high MP camera, it does well, the ergonomics isn’t for everyone. For me, I set the A7R V to shoot at 26MP, the Z8 is at 25.6MP, once in a while I will use the full resolution. I also like and have considered a Fuji GFX 50, the choices are numerous out there. Maybe you will find your camera outside of Nikon.

@@waynerm002 no worry. I have enough high MP Nikon cameras like D850, D810, D800 and more. And as I said it is not all about high MP. My D700 and D3s with 12 MP still serve me well😀

@@Audimann Come on man, you got some great cameras there already. LOL! You gotta give it to Nikon for coming out with a new tech for this level of camera, most wanted the 33MP A7 IV sensor, some figured they would re-use the Z6 II sensor. Time to get your hands on a Z8. 😉

@@waynerm002 nah, will skip the Z8 for now. Maybe in the future when the price will drop. Today I got a Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 DG and I needed a Godox speedlite also. So that costed me enough cash😁

Maybe a medium format is for you or the newly introduced R5 II. It promises 14+ stops of dynamic range. Although I suspect al these newer stacked sensored cameras may rate lower than their BSI counterparts in tests however, will perform better with the camera's noise reduction turned on. Canon has also announced Advanced noise reduction in both cameras, much like the Z6 III.

Let's not forget manufacturers of stacked sensors have been improving their in body noise reduction to compensate for the additional noise. Sony's is baked in their images (on the video side, probably same in photo) to allow for better performance. I know the old adage is to turn off in camera NR and add in post however, with the change in sensor types, software have been improving to aid in improving or eliminating these issues. Nikon has introduced Advanced Noise Reduction and states: "Tailored noise reduction delivers sharper, cleaner images in low-light environments." in the Z6 III which no one seems to mention (I also forgot). As we get older, it is natural to become complacent as we are comfortable with the old ways of doing things. Newer technology at times require a different process to work with them. I'm all about having an easier workflow and taking advantage of technology to aid in that regard. The Z6 III is packed with a lot of features some world's first or Nikon specific, all of these makes this one of the top performer in it's class and overall best in class. Cameras are tools, if the Z6 III doesn't do it for you, try out another.

@@waynerm002 sounds like you indulged the marketing material provided by Nikon… also, I don’t get your line of argument regarding the on chip / in camera processing. In the z6iii dark areas look crap, despite the in-camera processing. And I don’t like giving up something I lik (dynamic range) for something I don’t care about (never had any rolling shutter issues)

@@MrBlubb80 Everyone can go to the site to check the results, all stacked sensors perform a bit below their BSI counterparts. That is a trade off for a stacked (partially in the Z6 III’s case) sensor with a faster readout. Sony and Canon examples have NR built into the cameras which cannot be turned off affecting their results prior to software NR being applied, Nikon cameras do not have that “feature”. That added NR aid those stacked sensors in achieving better results and they all perform well when exposed properly, even the Z6 III. You don’t have to give up anything, there are a lot of other cameras you can choose from. Today, video is a part of mirrorless cameras, manufacturers have to design for both to remain viable in the market. It’s just the way it is.

Nikon has touted their Advanced Noise Reduction: "Tailored noise reduction delivers sharper, cleaner images in low-light environments." for the type of use case you will be shooting in. The range difference is minor, plus there are a number of advanced noise reduction program on the market if you stray too far and end up with more noise in your image. However, properly exposed images will be fine. You can also use strobes/speedlights, when applicable or dial up the ISO when you can't.

@@Photojouralist123 Yeah, it’s ok for some to complain and make a big deal about something that is minor in the grand scheme for most. I’ve seen some landscape photographers complaining as well. Medium format would be a good option for them, especially with Fuji releasing updated versions of their GFX, it would be a good time to source some used GFX bodies and lens for that purpose.

@@waynerm002 you can get 2nd hand gfx cheap and the lens used are cheap!

Sensor technology is changing, the A9 II was 24MP stacked with less DR than the Z6 II however, cost significantly more however, the use case is different. The Z6 III sacrificed a bit of DR for speed and it's not significant but, overall its performance far exceeds the Z6 II and is a first of its kind. Newer cameras are coming and prices possibly will be the same or more. The Fuji sensor is APSC and fully stacked, that is actually a very good choice for the price point. I considered it at one point but, after hearing about the AF issues, I passed on it. Panasonic S5 IIX is another I considered and still have my eye on but, I liked the size and feel of the S1H. I'm curious to see what they bring next. It's quite fine if this camera doesn't do the job for you, there are many others currently available you can choose from. From what we have, better performance comes at a price and manufactures have to balance this with the type of device they are building. We have to choose the tool that best suits our needs. Thanks for stopping in and commenting.

@@knnry Yep. Cameras have to balance performance with price and the Z6 III does that very well. Let’s be honest, all of the Expeed 7 cameras do more as an all rounder, I’m fine with the brand having less cameras than the competition as they provide a lot in 1 body.

@@knnry I agree with that if you shoot mainly RAW, some people just do jpegs, if the camera can provide excellent results that way as well, it’s a win for those that done want to edit.

Some have planted the seed that somehow not being on par or slightly better (I'm sure even with that they would have an issue) in measurements means the camera on a whole is a fail. Not taking into account different sensor technology, while making it seem a slight difference is significant. The camera isn't for everyone, but some live on specs rather than actual use case. All of the cameras based on the Expeed 7 processor has been performing well for Nikon, since they can't harp on autofocus, they have to find something new to bash it on.

@@randallbrander8157 Oh yes, it is a really nice place to visit. I don’t recall seeing any in Chinese but there are Chinese restaurants here as well. I’ve had Indian and Peruvian food too. This trip is the longest I’ve spent in the Ulaanbaatar, been a bit under the weather and have been doing checkups in the hospital. Mostly, we stay in Erdenet and head out to the countryside to hang out, those clips in the Z8 mid term review were from Terelj National Park, Erdenet, Bulgan, Tarlian Sum as well as Dalanzadgad, the city close to the Gobi desert. I do have lots of footage, I need to put together some videos from those trips. Once we get settled and I can get a studio setup, I’ll consider adding more cameras.

@@JeffandLeslie It is silly and there are those that stoke the fire as they are unhappy the product they wanted as yet to be produced by Nikon. As you stated, if it’s not for you don’t buy it, use the tool that works for your use case. Some seem to want to tell others how to spend their funds, when their use case is different, negating all the other great features that people want this camera for. My condolences on the loss of your family member.

@@waynerm002 thanks Wayne

@@g00nther True. Some folks also don’t tend to watch the full video for context and start drooping their comments, and chime in on why people shouldn’t buy the camera.

Landscape and low light shooters will notice the difference for sure.

@@PharaohMan007 Some like drama, sad.

What's the definition of overblown? How do you measure overblown? Saying "overblown" is meaningless. 0.8 stops worse dynamic range for some people is a lot, for others nothing, it's personal decision.

@@USGrant21st Stacked sensors have shown they have less DR than their BSI counterpart, some manufacturers (Sony) have noise reduction active in their final results to improve the DR on their cameras, Nikon allows you to do your own. Comparing the Z6 III with it's partially stacked sensor and the new A9 III which is fully stacked stacked, the Z6 III is better in the lower ISO region, matches the A9 III up until ISO 12,800. The Z6 III is $2500 and the A9 III is $6000. Each camera is designed for a specific use case and will perform well there. There are cameras for those seeking improved DR but, we also have to take the entire performance of the product as a whole and for many, the Z6 III will serve their use case. At times some photographers get wound up by specs then by results. I doubt client are looking at their photos and can tell the difference in DR from one camera to another. Software vendors have been improving their editing software to compensate for this. Nikon introduced Targeted Noise Reduction in the Zf and Advanced NR in the Z6 III to compensate for OOC jpgs. Canon just announced their own version of Advanced NR for their new stacked sensors. Will newer sensors improve on this, possibly but, it seems the workaround is to apply NR in camera or in post to improve the DR. Can we still get great results from these cameras? Yes. Will AI in software and hardware compensate further? Yes. Is this situation overblown? Yes. In most respects, the Z6 III offers more, in many areas, a minor dip in DR isn't a deal breaker and seem to be inherent in stacked sensor design across brands. If it is a deal breaker for some, they wont buy it, for others, it won't matter. Although, some would prefer you take their advice and not purchase it as it doesn't meet their requirements and are championing this all across comments sections on YT.

@@waynerm002 this is like saying there is no difference between APS-C and FF sensors because you can apply more noise reduction to match noise. I tell you that, I can clean up Z6ii ISO51200 image, but nothing good comes from Z6iii. I'm shooting at night time quite often, and I would never choose Z6iii for that.

@@USGrant21st Wow, that’s pretty high ISO you’re shooting at, if the Z6 II works for you and provides good results, then you already have your tool. Most people aren’t going to venture at that level for nighttime shots.

Congrats on the Z6 III! It's a great camera, looking forward to when I can get my hands on one

Bill Claff does very accurate measurements. Z6iii has about 0.8 stops worse dynamic range than Z6/ii and about 0.6 stops more high ISO noise. That's objective, can't argue with that. Whether someone considers the difference significant or not is his personal opinion, and obviously nobody cares about other people opinions.

I am thoroughly disappointed not by Nikon putting a video-centric Z6 III on the market, but by not putting a more landscape-centric camera alongside it, i.e. the Z7 III. Both the Z8 and the Z6 III do not feature attractive sensors unless one aims to do videos.

@@MrBlubb80 The camera market is changing and it seems Nikon isn't planning on doing the Sony thing of churning out multiple cameras. Instead they have been introducing feature rich bodies that cover a wide range of use. What I have noticed with stacked sensor, is you sacrifice a bit of DR for faster performance and improved video capabilities as well as, in camera noise performance. If Nikon isn't giving you the camera you need and this is something important for your work, it makes sense to consider options, maybe a medium format system will satisfy your need. I turned to Sony when I was having issues with my video autofocus, picked up the FX30 but I wasn't happy with the colors (Cinema) however, I learned how to edit log files and corrected the issue. This was after getting the A7R V, which had great colors out of camera. At that point I sold the Z6 II. Ergonomics were my main issue with the A7R V which led me back to Nikon, acquiring the Z8. I have tested medium formats from Fuji and Hasselblad, while I enjoy their image quality, they are slow for my use case and pricey. As mentioned earlier, maybe one of these other brands is a better fit for your use case.

@@waynerm002 according to Mapcamera, which sell a lot of photo equipment, the three by far the best selling cameras now are Fujifilm X-T50, Lumix S9, and Sony A7Cii. Notice the trend? Nikon has nothing in that category, perhaps that's why they have only 13% of the market, a third of Sony. Nikon aiming at producing niche cameras, their Zf is the most successful so far.

@@waynerm002 I’m going to say that Nikon will probably drop a z7iii, based on the 61MP sensor, BSI, not stacked, with reduced video-features, good high DR, for landscape and portrait photography - significantly more stills-, than video-focused. Probably this and a fast asp-c 30-something MP hybrid. Time will tell.

@@bsc001 As in the Sony A7R V sensor? It’s good but a few years old, I think Nikon would bring something new that’s their own configuration. I had the A7R V and it is a great performer on the photo side with competent video capabilities, Z8 does more in video, which is why I traded it (in addition to ergonomics). There are times I think about getting another as I love the rear screen, the EVF is fine but the body needs to be a bit bigger, maybe a mini grip to make it taller would solve the ergonomics issues.

This! People seem to forget all the other fantastic features that is in this camera, that make it a standout device.

@@tjarchitectures I think it leaves UB at 6 or 7pm and from Erdenet around the same time.

@@waynerm002thanks! It helps a lot 😊

@@JLCinelens Thanks for watching. As mentioned, the CF Express cards will run hot much like SSDs, they are designed that way and the faster they are, the hotter they run. I’ve made additional videos on this subject testing cards in my own Z8 and yes, they will throw the hot card warning however, keep in mind that is a warning to us to be aware the card will be hot when you remove it. It doesn’t affect the operation of the camera. The hot camera warning is another thing, the camera will shutdown after sometime of being too hot. I’ve tested the camera with different cards (you can watch those videos) and the camera ran until it reached the 2h 5m limit and then stopped recording @ 4K24. I also tried both of my 1TB cards (Exascend Essential and the replacement Angelbird SE card) to record 8.3K60 RAW, both from a cool startup and got 20 minutes of recording before the camera filled the cards and stopped recording. In both situations I got yellow and red temp warnings on the card and camera but, it didn’t shutdown. Trying to run a second test right after 1 8.3K60 test resulting in the camera shutting down right before the 20 minute mark. I have a 4.0 card (256B) and it seems to be about the same temperature when recording. These cards won’t run cool but, should handle the heat a bit better. Hope that helps.

@@waynerm002 Thank you for all these details, I feel a little more reassured.

@@JLCinelens You are welcome. I made a number of video on the Z8 (also my FX30) on issues I’ve encountered with follow up videos for resolution/solutions. Are you planning on getting the Z8 or the Z6 III?

@@waynerm002 I took a Nikon z8 this week and I was surprised by this hot logo card, that's why I'm looking for information but it's a superb camera.

@@seanbowen4429 You are welcome!

@@g00nther The things is, today people come to UA-cam to seek advice and they tend to visit their favorite influencer. Some reviews are rushed however, the later ones should require more knowledge of a product. From what I’ve seen, some don’t even take the time to read the manual or reference guide, in short, they don’t learn the product, but complain that it doesn’t work like another brand. Their Some of their followers, sadly aren’t taking the time to do their own research and buy into what’s being said as fact. I was once called out for stating things in my video that is contrary to what “the big UA-camrs” stated. I explained they got it wrong, they had the camera for a week or two and returned it, I own it, use it and am speaking from actual experience. That camera was the FX30, a lot of people stated the Cine EI feature did not work, even though Sony had posed info in the guide on how to use it as well as posted a YT video. So many got the info wrong and had their fans in an uproar. Now it’s the Z6 III’s turn, of course the Zf is getting its share as well as the Panasonic S9. We can hope this changes in the future, but I doubt it.

@@JET-Photo I understand folks pushing those companies, they are useful for folks to build their own sites and have a reputable place to buy and sell gear. KEH is where I got my lens when I started in Nikon digital and where I sold most of my gear to when I went fully mirrorless. From what I’m seeing, some folks just don’t know how to use the product and didn’t take the time to. For some, it’s expecting the product to perform the same as the competitors. The Zf pulled in a lot of creators new to Nikon, they used it for a week and say it’s confusing, it should be like Fuji. Now the Z6 III is here and some of the same is occurring. Let’s not forget the Panasonic S9, a lot of seasoned presenters don’t understand the product as they can only see it from their use case, not for who it was designed. I’m sure there are other great unbiased reviewers out there, I’m discovering new ones from time to time and like their stuff.

You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!

@@PharaohMan007 I’m seeing reviewers posting video with incorrect info, with commentators agreeing and speaking poorly about a product they haven’t used. I’ve had a couple of folks unsubscribe when I bought Sony cameras as they didn’t agree with my decision. Weird. Others want to decide how someone should spend their money.

@@waynerm002 Fanboys everywhere. Now-a-days all major cameras are great with different quirks and strengths. Sony's are great as are Nikons and one isn't necessarily better than the other. I know what you mean -I've seen the same things with other hobbies; phones, watches, clothes-everyone wants to be surrounded by people enabling their spending habits I guess.

@@PharaohMan007 Influencers I guess.

@@irfanomer5331 That’s quite a collection. I’ve been tempted to pick up some of the Milvus lens as they are on sale at the camera shop but man, those things are heavy. Would be nice if they made some Z mount versions.

Thanks for watching! While I passed on the Zf, I have used (with the grip) one on a number of occasions trying out lens like the Voigtlander 58mm 1.4 f-mount, plus the newer 40 f1.2 for Z mount, also the 50 f0.95 (Leica version adapted to the Z mount), using the Manual Focus Subject Detection works really well with those lens. Can’t forget the Plena, it’s so nice on that camera, the sound of the mechanical adds to the appeal of using it. For me, I wanted the Z6 III as I was certain it would get some of the features from the Zf, plus additional video codecs. Now that it’s here, I can’t wait to get my hands on one. Hopefully soon we will both get the camera we like.

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That’s great to hear, you would need to have some pretty old lens to need to set that up.

I keep my rear screen around +3 and the EVF is set to Auto. Would be great if Nikon allow the signal to go over USB to a phone, I like the brightness of the phone screen. On the other hand if someone can develop a self powered external HDR capable screen that works over USB/WiFi/Bluetooth with really good latency, or takes HDMI signals but retains a small footprint, I would be in for that.

It is small, I’ve tried out John’s but I’ll pass for video use as it is noisy. I have a few lens that are in that range, the Sony 16-35 f4, Nikon 17-28 f2.8 and 24-120 f4, plus the Zeiss Batis 2/25.

Have to make sure to check the weather and dress for that, as opposed to how things looks outside as that can vary drastically.

@@waynerm002 Reminds me of Alaska. Luetenant got mad and made the First Sergeant put us in Front Leaning Rest Position for an hour until someone gave up the person which made the Officer mad. It started snowing so they called it off and noone told. Funny Story if you are on the panel I will write in the Panel Comment on what happened. Life is so Good! Cheers!

@@randallbrander8157 The good old FLR position, basic is when we did that a lot and during PT at our duty station.

Whatever you have the camera fps set to, if the shutter bumps up, it still keeps the fps, at one point in the video, I put the camera in Program and it jumped up to 1/1000. To get it smoother, you will have to do your best during filming to keep it steady, I was walking at a fast pace while handholding the camera and you saw some of the footfalls, maybe some ninja walk can help or being more purposeful with the steps to minimize the camera movement. I applied stabilization in Resolve using the Similarity option as that worked better for that situation. Try out the different options to see which one you prefer, you can also use the adjustment sliders to make some changes, to see how that works out. Hope that helps.

I will when I get the camera although, I suspect it will be similar, with a fast CFE card (and no SD inserted like the Z8).

LOL! Didn’t think about that.

It’s that lack of dual USB port that’s killing it for you?

Great! The pricing on this lens is nice for a 1.4, welcome to Nikon.

Oh yeah, light setup for gimbal use. Even though old, it’s an S line lens and still a great performer. Guess we will have to wait a bit more for the 1.2 version.

Yep.

Why do believe it is too expensive? What price do you think it should reasonably be sold for? Let’s look at what the competitors are doing. Sony introduced the A7 IV almost 3 years ago with a 33MP sensor but with similar specs to others in the class, for $2500. In the past year other manufacturers have re-released their sensors from their old cameras with updated processors with additional features (4K60 still with crop), while requiring external 6K RAW capabilities. Canon introduced the R6 II a,most 2 years ago with an upgraded processor, it is able to do 46K60 with no crop but, with 6K externally for $2500. Nikon has introduced a new sensor with their latest Expeed 7 processor in the Z6 III, performing closer to their flagship camera, carrying new features from the Zf, while upping the onboard video capabilities to 6K60 RAW internally, being able to record up to 2Hr 5Min in a body with no active cooling, for $2500. I would say it’s priced appropriately for the class.

@@waynerm002 A7 IV is too expensive !!! too ... !!!

@@weikaifan7979 LOL! That was 2021 pricing, where do you think they will price the A7 V? If Sony introduces a new sensor, processor and body to match/beat the Z6 III with 6K60 RAW along with tech from their other cameras, they most likely will raise their price. What’s the price you think is good for these cameras?

​@@waynerm002 I am a Nikon photography enthusiast, and I also use Sony as my secondary camera. It’s just that manufacturers have been using squeeze methods to accumulate technology, and they have also been piling up prices, and of course they have taken advantage of the wallets of brand enthusiasts!

It is a good thing for them to give it some features from the professional line. Sales will be happening in the future and you can snag one then.

Yep! Finally getting that floppy screen plus a lot more. 😀👍🏼

From my experience with the Z8, the RAW files needs some work to clean up the noise, especially in low light. I have a couple of 8K videos I shot, one with the cleaned up files and the other where I explained what I had to do to get the night footage noise free. In Gerald's Undone's video of the Z6 III, during dynamic range testing, he mentioned NRAW does not have any noise reduction applied like what you get from other cameras. I tested ProRes RAW and the footage was grainy however, since it is not supported in Resolve natively, I don't use it.

@@waynerm002 Thank you, I saw an article from EOSHD saying the N-RAW from the Z9 had some noise reduction baked in.

@@aiseurnae5976 I went to look at the article, the images posted looks like what I have seen in high ISO night photos I have taken with my Z8, not what I have seen recording N-RAW. N-RAW does look grainy/noisy at ISO 800, but not as bad as at higher ISO. Check out Cine D's dynamic range test of the Z9, they did one on an early V1 log profile and then another after firmware 3.0 V2, they didn't mention N-RAW having noise reduction added. I don't recall hearing/reading anyone else stating this.

@@waynerm002 Thank you, indeed Cine D never mentionned NR inside N-raw on the Z9 review. I'm very interested by the Nikon Z6-III because I'm tired of Panasonic, mainly because they offer the same sensor from 2017 (since their S1 released in 2019), even the video quality of the SII is worse than their S1 and S5 because they added a lot of sharpening, detail filtering and chroma noise reduction making the image really not appealing each time I need to crop a bit in my videos. And also the lack of Panasonic S Pro lenses (the last one was released in 2020) is another issue.

@@aiseurnae5976 I've seen some photos and video from Panasonic cameras as well as Leica and they sort of have a similar look. I started my channel with a Panasonic camcorder and wanted to give the S1H a try but the AF was worse than my Z6 so I didn't bother with it. I like the result from the Z8 in SDR, NLOG or RAW. I want to get back fully into the Nikon system but, I do like using the FX30 as well. The Z lens are great and some of the S versions aren't too pricey. If you do decide to get one, I would suggest the 24-120 f4 S lens over the 24-70 f4 S, you get more range and it's only $100 more. If you can go all in, the 24-70 2.8 S is a really nice one to start with or the 1.8 primes. Nikon optics are really good.

They are certainly making some waves with their Expeed 7 products.

It’s good that they took some steps to take it up a notch over the current crop of hybrid cameras. The improved the video specs while upping the photography side with some features from Z8/9 and adding and improving on what the Zf delivered.

Thanks Jeff. I’ll pop in, maybe on camera or chat. Have folks coming through, we will see which way it goes. It’s got most of what I expected, I would have loved a multi-angle 2000 nits HDR screen on the rear and a higher capacity battery to run it all. LOL!

@@waynerm002 Something tells me they will come out with a higher capacity battery at some point that would benefit obviously a whole lot of Nikon cameras that use this battery.

@@selectiveimagery let’s hope so.