I am thoroughly disappointed not by Nikon putting a video-centric Z6 III on the market, but by not putting a more landscape-centric camera alongside it, i.e. the Z7 III. Both the Z8 and the Z6 III do not feature attractive sensors unless one aims to do videos.
@@MrBlubb80 The camera market is changing and it seems Nikon isn't planning on doing the Sony thing of churning out multiple cameras. Instead they have been introducing feature rich bodies that cover a wide range of use. What I have noticed with stacked sensor, is you sacrifice a bit of DR for faster performance and improved video capabilities as well as, in camera noise performance. If Nikon isn't giving you the camera you need and this is something important for your work, it makes sense to consider options, maybe a medium format system will satisfy your need. I turned to Sony when I was having issues with my video autofocus, picked up the FX30 but I wasn't happy with the colors (Cinema) however, I learned how to edit log files and corrected the issue. This was after getting the A7R V, which had great colors out of camera. At that point I sold the Z6 II. Ergonomics were my main issue with the A7R V which led me back to Nikon, acquiring the Z8. I have tested medium formats from Fuji and Hasselblad, while I enjoy their image quality, they are slow for my use case and pricey. As mentioned earlier, maybe one of these other brands is a better fit for your use case.
@@waynerm002 according to Mapcamera, which sell a lot of photo equipment, the three by far the best selling cameras now are Fujifilm X-T50, Lumix S9, and Sony A7Cii. Notice the trend? Nikon has nothing in that category, perhaps that's why they have only 13% of the market, a third of Sony. Nikon aiming at producing niche cameras, their Zf is the most successful so far.
@@waynerm002 I’m going to say that Nikon will probably drop a z7iii, based on the 61MP sensor, BSI, not stacked, with reduced video-features, good high DR, for landscape and portrait photography - significantly more stills-, than video-focused. Probably this and a fast asp-c 30-something MP hybrid. Time will tell.
@@bsc001 As in the Sony A7R V sensor? It’s good but a few years old, I think Nikon would bring something new that’s their own configuration. I had the A7R V and it is a great performer on the photo side with competent video capabilities, Z8 does more in video, which is why I traded it (in addition to ergonomics). There are times I think about getting another as I love the rear screen, the EVF is fine but the body needs to be a bit bigger, maybe a mini grip to make it taller would solve the ergonomics issues.
The problem is not that the Z6 III has poor dynamic range - it just doesn't have any better dynamic range even though it has a mere 24 Megapixels. The real issue here is the really ugly noise in the shadows.
Let's not forget manufacturers of stacked sensors have been improving their in body noise reduction to compensate for the additional noise. Sony's is baked in their images (on the video side, probably same in photo) to allow for better performance. I know the old adage is to turn off in camera NR and add in post however, with the change in sensor types, software have been improving to aid in improving or eliminating these issues. Nikon has introduced Advanced Noise Reduction and states: "Tailored noise reduction delivers sharper, cleaner images in low-light environments." in the Z6 III which no one seems to mention (I also forgot). As we get older, it is natural to become complacent as we are comfortable with the old ways of doing things. Newer technology at times require a different process to work with them. I'm all about having an easier workflow and taking advantage of technology to aid in that regard. The Z6 III is packed with a lot of features some world's first or Nikon specific, all of these makes this one of the top performer in it's class and overall best in class. Cameras are tools, if the Z6 III doesn't do it for you, try out another.
@@waynerm002 sounds like you indulged the marketing material provided by Nikon… also, I don’t get your line of argument regarding the on chip / in camera processing. In the z6iii dark areas look crap, despite the in-camera processing. And I don’t like giving up something I lik (dynamic range) for something I don’t care about (never had any rolling shutter issues)
@@MrBlubb80 Everyone can go to the site to check the results, all stacked sensors perform a bit below their BSI counterparts. That is a trade off for a stacked (partially in the Z6 III’s case) sensor with a faster readout. Sony and Canon examples have NR built into the cameras which cannot be turned off affecting their results prior to software NR being applied, Nikon cameras do not have that “feature”. That added NR aid those stacked sensors in achieving better results and they all perform well when exposed properly, even the Z6 III. You don’t have to give up anything, there are a lot of other cameras you can choose from. Today, video is a part of mirrorless cameras, manufacturers have to design for both to remain viable in the market. It’s just the way it is.
All this drama over a camera body... wow. foolishness at its highest level. It's like people are debating the best course of treatment for cancer or how to survive a nuclear attack. The Z6iii a camera body for goodness sakes. If the thing meets your needs and passes the cost/benefit analysis, go for it and don't look back. If it lacks some feature that is important to your photography or costs too much, then don't buy it. No need for the drama. I have heard nothing to suggest the camera is defective or not performing to specifications. If the camera is doing what it was designed to do, then does it meet your needs? It really is a yes or no. folks really should keep the drama and bashing to those things that are really important. I had a family member pass away this week. That is important, a camera body is way down the priority list as to make it inconsequential. It truly is not a life or death decision. If Nikon or any other camera brand produced a product that was dangerous or malfunctioned in a way that could cause injury, sure hold them accountable. That is not the case. That's my only 2 cents worth in this.
@@JeffandLeslie It is silly and there are those that stoke the fire as they are unhappy the product they wanted as yet to be produced by Nikon. As you stated, if it’s not for you don’t buy it, use the tool that works for your use case. Some seem to want to tell others how to spend their funds, when their use case is different, negating all the other great features that people want this camera for. My condolences on the loss of your family member.
Haven’t had a chance to really check out low light performance on my Z6III, but I can say that the updated autofocus capabilities alone are amazing! If the low light performance is even close to my original Z6, those who are crying about 1/2 stop or so of DR can go pound sand as far as I’m concerned! It’s a great camera!
Bill Claff does very accurate measurements. Z6iii has about 0.8 stops worse dynamic range than Z6/ii and about 0.6 stops more high ISO noise. That's objective, can't argue with that. Whether someone considers the difference significant or not is his personal opinion, and obviously nobody cares about other people opinions.
I've had my Z6/3 for a few days and NO issues of Dr and I know Dr! Before the rant was AF now its DR which they have no clue what that is. You want the best DR then use MF period.
@@Photojouralist123 Yeah, it’s ok for some to complain and make a big deal about something that is minor in the grand scheme for most. I’ve seen some landscape photographers complaining as well. Medium format would be a good option for them, especially with Fuji releasing updated versions of their GFX, it would be a good time to source some used GFX bodies and lens for that purpose.
What's the definition of overblown? How do you measure overblown? Saying "overblown" is meaningless. 0.8 stops worse dynamic range for some people is a lot, for others nothing, it's personal decision.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 Stacked sensors have shown they have less DR than their BSI counterpart, some manufacturers (Sony) have noise reduction active in their final results to improve the DR on their cameras, Nikon allows you to do your own. Comparing the Z6 III with it's partially stacked sensor and the new A9 III which is fully stacked stacked, the Z6 III is better in the lower ISO region, matches the A9 III up until ISO 12,800. The Z6 III is $2500 and the A9 III is $6000. Each camera is designed for a specific use case and will perform well there. There are cameras for those seeking improved DR but, we also have to take the entire performance of the product as a whole and for many, the Z6 III will serve their use case. At times some photographers get wound up by specs then by results. I doubt client are looking at their photos and can tell the difference in DR from one camera to another. Software vendors have been improving their editing software to compensate for this. Nikon introduced Targeted Noise Reduction in the Zf and Advanced NR in the Z6 III to compensate for OOC jpgs. Canon just announced their own version of Advanced NR for their new stacked sensors. Will newer sensors improve on this, possibly but, it seems the workaround is to apply NR in camera or in post to improve the DR. Can we still get great results from these cameras? Yes. Will AI in software and hardware compensate further? Yes. Is this situation overblown? Yes. In most respects, the Z6 III offers more, in many areas, a minor dip in DR isn't a deal breaker and seem to be inherent in stacked sensor design across brands. If it is a deal breaker for some, they wont buy it, for others, it won't matter. Although, some would prefer you take their advice and not purchase it as it doesn't meet their requirements and are championing this all across comments sections on YT.
@@waynerm002 this is like saying there is no difference between APS-C and FF sensors because you can apply more noise reduction to match noise. I tell you that, I can clean up Z6ii ISO51200 image, but nothing good comes from Z6iii. I'm shooting at night time quite often, and I would never choose Z6iii for that.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 Wow, that’s pretty high ISO you’re shooting at, if the Z6 II works for you and provides good results, then you already have your tool. Most people aren’t going to venture at that level for nighttime shots.
need ur kind response, i am about to buy this camera for wedding shoots and low light events also, but simultaneously i m confused for the purchase since its slightly low in dynamic range, will it meet the mentioned purpose well? will be grateful if u answer this question.
Nikon has touted their Advanced Noise Reduction: "Tailored noise reduction delivers sharper, cleaner images in low-light environments." for the type of use case you will be shooting in. The range difference is minor, plus there are a number of advanced noise reduction program on the market if you stray too far and end up with more noise in your image. However, properly exposed images will be fine. You can also use strobes/speedlights, when applicable or dial up the ISO when you can't.
Some have planted the seed that somehow not being on par or slightly better (I'm sure even with that they would have an issue) in measurements means the camera on a whole is a fail. Not taking into account different sensor technology, while making it seem a slight difference is significant. The camera isn't for everyone, but some live on specs rather than actual use case. All of the cameras based on the Expeed 7 processor has been performing well for Nikon, since they can't harp on autofocus, they have to find something new to bash it on.
Maybe a medium format is for you or the newly introduced R5 II. It promises 14+ stops of dynamic range. Although I suspect al these newer stacked sensored cameras may rate lower than their BSI counterparts in tests however, will perform better with the camera's noise reduction turned on. Canon has also announced Advanced noise reduction in both cameras, much like the Z6 III.
Mongolia seems to me to be a fantastic place to visit. Russian, English, Mongolian Signs in their written language. Any in Chinese? Have you ever ventured anywhere besides the capital to other cities or villages? I know that You did videos in the Gobi Dessert. Cheers! BTW Having Two is always better than having one. Arrivederci!
@@randallbrander8157 Oh yes, it is a really nice place to visit. I don’t recall seeing any in Chinese but there are Chinese restaurants here as well. I’ve had Indian and Peruvian food too. This trip is the longest I’ve spent in the Ulaanbaatar, been a bit under the weather and have been doing checkups in the hospital. Mostly, we stay in Erdenet and head out to the countryside to hang out, those clips in the Z8 mid term review were from Terelj National Park, Erdenet, Bulgan, Tarlian Sum as well as Dalanzadgad, the city close to the Gobi desert. I do have lots of footage, I need to put together some videos from those trips. Once we get settled and I can get a studio setup, I’ll consider adding more cameras.
If i buy a new camera i want MORE dynamic range than the previous model not less. I dont care if its "enough" this camera costs 3000 where i live and i dont want it if it has less dynamic range than fuji apsc cameras and all of the competition
Sensor technology is changing, the A9 II was 24MP stacked with less DR than the Z6 II however, cost significantly more however, the use case is different. The Z6 III sacrificed a bit of DR for speed and it's not significant but, overall its performance far exceeds the Z6 II and is a first of its kind. Newer cameras are coming and prices possibly will be the same or more. The Fuji sensor is APSC and fully stacked, that is actually a very good choice for the price point. I considered it at one point but, after hearing about the AF issues, I passed on it. Panasonic S5 IIX is another I considered and still have my eye on but, I liked the size and feel of the S1H. I'm curious to see what they bring next. It's quite fine if this camera doesn't do the job for you, there are many others currently available you can choose from. From what we have, better performance comes at a price and manufactures have to balance this with the type of device they are building. We have to choose the tool that best suits our needs. Thanks for stopping in and commenting.
@@g00nther True. Some folks also don’t tend to watch the full video for context and start drooping their comments, and chime in on why people shouldn’t buy the camera.
For 2999 Euro I expect something better quite frankly. I know it is not only about megapixels but 24.5 MP was invented years ago. Even the D3x from 2008 had it already.
@@Audimann Maybe there is an issue with producing other sensors at a price point that would be accepted by the market for a mid tier camera. Manufacturers have been reusing CMOS and BSI sensors for the past few generations of cameras. Sony’s A7 IV’ 33MP BSI sensor is a one off and no one else is using a FF sensor at or above that level in mid tier cameras. Faster sensors are being made to combat rolling shutter, now we have a 24MP global shutter sensor in a hybrid camera with a huge price. 24MP stacked sensors are also pricey, Canon R3 $5000, now R1 $6300, A9/A9 II $4500 (USD prices before tax), Z6 III partially stacked for $2500 and it comes with a host of features that makes it close in performance to the Z8/9. I take you are looking at this from a photographer’s perspective? Manufacturers have to based their products around the needs of today’s consumers and video plays a large role. 24MP is that sweet spot to provide up to 6K60 RAW video without needing to crop. If the market starts clamoring for 6K240 one day, a new type of sensor will need to be created to handle that and by then, the prices for camera will be higher. Let’s be real, most people would love a stacked sensor with higher resolution. Is it possible for chip suppliers to make this in sufficient yields that will cause the price to lower sufficiently to put it in a camera for the masses? At what MP, at what price? I don’t know your use case and what other technology you would prefer in a camera, if Nikon isn’t making the camera you want, there are other manufacturers that may have what you want, give them a try. I went Sony when my Z6 II wasn’t doing what I need. You’ve probably seen my videos on why I gave up the A7R V for the Z8, even though it was a pretty good performer, I recommend the A7R V, as a high MP camera, it does well, the ergonomics isn’t for everyone. For me, I set the A7R V to shoot at 26MP, the Z8 is at 25.6MP, once in a while I will use the full resolution. I also like and have considered a Fuji GFX 50, the choices are numerous out there. Maybe you will find your camera outside of Nikon.
@@waynerm002 no worry. I have enough high MP Nikon cameras like D850, D810, D800 and more. And as I said it is not all about high MP. My D700 and D3s with 12 MP still serve me well😀
@@Audimann Come on man, you got some great cameras there already. LOL! You gotta give it to Nikon for coming out with a new tech for this level of camera, most wanted the 33MP A7 IV sensor, some figured they would re-use the Z6 II sensor. Time to get your hands on a Z8. 😉
@@waynerm002 nah, will skip the Z8 for now. Maybe in the future when the price will drop. Today I got a Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 DG and I needed a Godox speedlite also. So that costed me enough cash😁
I'm not sure what is happening, I noticed some banding when I watched on the iPad but it is fine on my laptop. The original file on my laptop is also brighter than both. Resolve 19 beta has been giving me some headaches. I'll have to check both after the upload, I know YT does some compression but this is different.
Is the Dynamic Range difference of the Z6 III causing you to rethink your purchase?
I am thoroughly disappointed not by Nikon putting a video-centric Z6 III on the market, but by not putting a more landscape-centric camera alongside it, i.e. the Z7 III. Both the Z8 and the Z6 III do not feature attractive sensors unless one aims to do videos.
@@MrBlubb80 The camera market is changing and it seems Nikon isn't planning on doing the Sony thing of churning out multiple cameras. Instead they have been introducing feature rich bodies that cover a wide range of use. What I have noticed with stacked sensor, is you sacrifice a bit of DR for faster performance and improved video capabilities as well as, in camera noise performance. If Nikon isn't giving you the camera you need and this is something important for your work, it makes sense to consider options, maybe a medium format system will satisfy your need.
I turned to Sony when I was having issues with my video autofocus, picked up the FX30 but I wasn't happy with the colors (Cinema) however, I learned how to edit log files and corrected the issue. This was after getting the A7R V, which had great colors out of camera. At that point I sold the Z6 II. Ergonomics were my main issue with the A7R V which led me back to Nikon, acquiring the Z8. I have tested medium formats from Fuji and Hasselblad, while I enjoy their image quality, they are slow for my use case and pricey. As mentioned earlier, maybe one of these other brands is a better fit for your use case.
@@waynerm002 according to Mapcamera, which sell a lot of photo equipment, the three by far the best selling cameras now are Fujifilm X-T50, Lumix S9, and Sony A7Cii. Notice the trend? Nikon has nothing in that category, perhaps that's why they have only 13% of the market, a third of Sony. Nikon aiming at producing niche cameras, their Zf is the most successful so far.
@@waynerm002 I’m going to say that Nikon will probably drop a z7iii, based on the 61MP sensor, BSI, not stacked, with reduced video-features, good high DR, for landscape and portrait photography - significantly more stills-, than video-focused. Probably this and a fast asp-c 30-something MP hybrid.
Time will tell.
@@bsc001 As in the Sony A7R V sensor? It’s good but a few years old, I think Nikon would bring something new that’s their own configuration. I had the A7R V and it is a great performer on the photo side with competent video capabilities, Z8 does more in video, which is why I traded it (in addition to ergonomics). There are times I think about getting another as I love the rear screen, the EVF is fine but the body needs to be a bit bigger, maybe a mini grip to make it taller would solve the ergonomics issues.
The problem is not that the Z6 III has poor dynamic range - it just doesn't have any better dynamic range even though it has a mere 24 Megapixels. The real issue here is the really ugly noise in the shadows.
Let's not forget manufacturers of stacked sensors have been improving their in body noise reduction to compensate for the additional noise. Sony's is baked in their images (on the video side, probably same in photo) to allow for better performance. I know the old adage is to turn off in camera NR and add in post however, with the change in sensor types, software have been improving to aid in improving or eliminating these issues. Nikon has introduced Advanced Noise Reduction and states: "Tailored noise reduction delivers sharper, cleaner images in low-light environments." in the Z6 III which no one seems to mention (I also forgot).
As we get older, it is natural to become complacent as we are comfortable with the old ways of doing things. Newer technology at times require a different process to work with them. I'm all about having an easier workflow and taking advantage of technology to aid in that regard. The Z6 III is packed with a lot of features some world's first or Nikon specific, all of these makes this one of the top performer in it's class and overall best in class. Cameras are tools, if the Z6 III doesn't do it for you, try out another.
@@waynerm002 sounds like you indulged the marketing material provided by Nikon… also, I don’t get your line of argument regarding the on chip / in camera processing. In the z6iii dark areas look crap, despite the in-camera processing. And I don’t like giving up something I lik (dynamic range) for something I don’t care about (never had any rolling shutter issues)
@@MrBlubb80 Everyone can go to the site to check the results, all stacked sensors perform a bit below their BSI counterparts. That is a trade off for a stacked (partially in the Z6 III’s case) sensor with a faster readout. Sony and Canon examples have NR built into the cameras which cannot be turned off affecting their results prior to software NR being applied, Nikon cameras do not have that “feature”. That added NR aid those stacked sensors in achieving better results and they all perform well when exposed properly, even the Z6 III. You don’t have to give up anything, there are a lot of other cameras you can choose from. Today, video is a part of mirrorless cameras, manufacturers have to design for both to remain viable in the market. It’s just the way it is.
All this drama over a camera body... wow. foolishness at its highest level. It's like people are debating the best course of treatment for cancer or how to survive a nuclear attack. The Z6iii a camera body for goodness sakes. If the thing meets your needs and passes the cost/benefit analysis, go for it and don't look back. If it lacks some feature that is important to your photography or costs too much, then don't buy it. No need for the drama. I have heard nothing to suggest the camera is defective or not performing to specifications. If the camera is doing what it was designed to do, then does it meet your needs? It really is a yes or no. folks really should keep the drama and bashing to those things that are really important. I had a family member pass away this week. That is important, a camera body is way down the priority list as to make it inconsequential. It truly is not a life or death decision.
If Nikon or any other camera brand produced a product that was dangerous or malfunctioned in a way that could cause injury, sure hold them accountable. That is not the case.
That's my only 2 cents worth in this.
@@JeffandLeslie It is silly and there are those that stoke the fire as they are unhappy the product they wanted as yet to be produced by Nikon. As you stated, if it’s not for you don’t buy it, use the tool that works for your use case. Some seem to want to tell others how to spend their funds, when their use case is different, negating all the other great features that people want this camera for. My condolences on the loss of your family member.
@@waynerm002 thanks Wayne
Haven’t had a chance to really check out low light performance on my Z6III, but I can say that the updated autofocus capabilities alone are amazing! If the low light performance is even close to my original Z6, those who are crying about 1/2 stop or so of DR can go pound sand as far as I’m concerned! It’s a great camera!
Congrats on the Z6 III! It's a great camera, looking forward to when I can get my hands on one
Bill Claff does very accurate measurements. Z6iii has about 0.8 stops worse dynamic range than Z6/ii and about 0.6 stops more high ISO noise. That's objective, can't argue with that. Whether someone considers the difference significant or not is his personal opinion, and obviously nobody cares about other people opinions.
No, absolutely not !!!
I've had my Z6/3 for a few days and NO issues of Dr and I know Dr! Before the rant was AF now its DR which they have no clue what that is. You want the best DR then use MF period.
@@Photojouralist123 Yeah, it’s ok for some to complain and make a big deal about something that is minor in the grand scheme for most. I’ve seen some landscape photographers complaining as well. Medium format would be a good option for them, especially with Fuji releasing updated versions of their GFX, it would be a good time to source some used GFX bodies and lens for that purpose.
@@waynerm002 you can get 2nd hand gfx cheap and the lens used are cheap!
overblown is correct! Thanks for spelling it out for people.
@@PharaohMan007 Some like drama, sad.
What's the definition of overblown? How do you measure overblown? Saying "overblown" is meaningless. 0.8 stops worse dynamic range for some people is a lot, for others nothing, it's personal decision.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 Stacked sensors have shown they have less DR than their BSI counterpart, some manufacturers (Sony) have noise reduction active in their final results to improve the DR on their cameras, Nikon allows you to do your own. Comparing the Z6 III with it's partially stacked sensor and the new A9 III which is fully stacked stacked, the Z6 III is better in the lower ISO region, matches the A9 III up until ISO 12,800. The Z6 III is $2500 and the A9 III is $6000. Each camera is designed for a specific use case and will perform well there. There are cameras for those seeking improved DR but, we also have to take the entire performance of the product as a whole and for many, the Z6 III will serve their use case. At times some photographers get wound up by specs then by results. I doubt client are looking at their photos and can tell the difference in DR from one camera to another.
Software vendors have been improving their editing software to compensate for this. Nikon introduced Targeted Noise Reduction in the Zf and Advanced NR in the Z6 III to compensate for OOC jpgs. Canon just announced their own version of Advanced NR for their new stacked sensors. Will newer sensors improve on this, possibly but, it seems the workaround is to apply NR in camera or in post to improve the DR. Can we still get great results from these cameras? Yes. Will AI in software and hardware compensate further? Yes. Is this situation overblown? Yes. In most respects, the Z6 III offers more, in many areas, a minor dip in DR isn't a deal breaker and seem to be inherent in stacked sensor design across brands. If it is a deal breaker for some, they wont buy it, for others, it won't matter. Although, some would prefer you take their advice and not purchase it as it doesn't meet their requirements and are championing this all across comments sections on YT.
@@waynerm002 this is like saying there is no difference between APS-C and FF sensors because you can apply more noise reduction to match noise. I tell you that, I can clean up Z6ii ISO51200 image, but nothing good comes from Z6iii. I'm shooting at night time quite often, and I would never choose Z6iii for that.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 Wow, that’s pretty high ISO you’re shooting at, if the Z6 II works for you and provides good results, then you already have your tool. Most people aren’t going to venture at that level for nighttime shots.
need ur kind response, i am about to buy this camera for wedding shoots and low light events also, but simultaneously i m confused for the purchase since its slightly low in dynamic range, will it meet the mentioned purpose well? will be grateful if u answer this question.
Nikon has touted their Advanced Noise Reduction: "Tailored noise reduction delivers sharper, cleaner images in low-light environments." for the type of use case you will be shooting in. The range difference is minor, plus there are a number of advanced noise reduction program on the market if you stray too far and end up with more noise in your image. However, properly exposed images will be fine. You can also use strobes/speedlights, when applicable or dial up the ISO when you can't.
I would say rent it before buying and test it with the lenses you are planning to use in the environments you want to shoot.
@@engineer4862 Great advice. This “issue” turned out to be just noise from a few people, in actual use case, the camera works fine.
Geez another video about DR of the Z6iii.. all i can say coming from a Z6/Z6ii is its night and day and the Expeed 7 is fast enough for what i shoot..
Some have planted the seed that somehow not being on par or slightly better (I'm sure even with that they would have an issue) in measurements means the camera on a whole is a fail. Not taking into account different sensor technology, while making it seem a slight difference is significant. The camera isn't for everyone, but some live on specs rather than actual use case. All of the cameras based on the Expeed 7 processor has been performing well for Nikon, since they can't harp on autofocus, they have to find something new to bash it on.
Hard pass for me very poor dynamic range poor shadow recovery. Overall the Nikon Z6iii makes a great JPEG camera.
Maybe a medium format is for you or the newly introduced R5 II. It promises 14+ stops of dynamic range. Although I suspect al these newer stacked sensored cameras may rate lower than their BSI counterparts in tests however, will perform better with the camera's noise reduction turned on. Canon has also announced Advanced noise reduction in both cameras, much like the Z6 III.
Mongolia seems to me to be a fantastic place to visit. Russian, English, Mongolian Signs in their written language. Any in Chinese? Have you ever ventured anywhere besides the capital to other cities or villages? I know that You did videos in the Gobi Dessert. Cheers! BTW Having Two is always better than having one. Arrivederci!
@@randallbrander8157 Oh yes, it is a really nice place to visit. I don’t recall seeing any in Chinese but there are Chinese restaurants here as well. I’ve had Indian and Peruvian food too. This trip is the longest I’ve spent in the Ulaanbaatar, been a bit under the weather and have been doing checkups in the hospital. Mostly, we stay in Erdenet and head out to the countryside to hang out, those clips in the Z8 mid term review were from Terelj National Park, Erdenet, Bulgan, Tarlian Sum as well as Dalanzadgad, the city close to the Gobi desert. I do have lots of footage, I need to put together some videos from those trips. Once we get settled and I can get a studio setup, I’ll consider adding more cameras.
If i buy a new camera i want MORE dynamic range than the previous model not less. I dont care if its "enough" this camera costs 3000 where i live and i dont want it if it has less dynamic range than fuji apsc cameras and all of the competition
Sensor technology is changing, the A9 II was 24MP stacked with less DR than the Z6 II however, cost significantly more however, the use case is different. The Z6 III sacrificed a bit of DR for speed and it's not significant but, overall its performance far exceeds the Z6 II and is a first of its kind. Newer cameras are coming and prices possibly will be the same or more.
The Fuji sensor is APSC and fully stacked, that is actually a very good choice for the price point. I considered it at one point but, after hearing about the AF issues, I passed on it. Panasonic S5 IIX is another I considered and still have my eye on but, I liked the size and feel of the S1H. I'm curious to see what they bring next.
It's quite fine if this camera doesn't do the job for you, there are many others currently available you can choose from. From what we have, better performance comes at a price and manufactures have to balance this with the type of device they are building. We have to choose the tool that best suits our needs. Thanks for stopping in and commenting.
It's overblown. Not going to be noticable in 99.5% of photos. Certain reviewers are into clickbait. I tend to avoid them.
@@g00nther True. Some folks also don’t tend to watch the full video for context and start drooping their comments, and chime in on why people shouldn’t buy the camera.
Landscape and low light shooters will notice the difference for sure.
For 2999 Euro I expect something better quite frankly. I know it is not only about megapixels but 24.5 MP was invented years ago. Even the D3x from 2008 had it already.
@@Audimann Maybe there is an issue with producing other sensors at a price point that would be accepted by the market for a mid tier camera. Manufacturers have been reusing CMOS and BSI sensors for the past few generations of cameras. Sony’s A7 IV’ 33MP BSI sensor is a one off and no one else is using a FF sensor at or above that level in mid tier cameras. Faster sensors are being made to combat rolling shutter, now we have a 24MP global shutter sensor in a hybrid camera with a huge price. 24MP stacked sensors are also pricey, Canon R3 $5000, now R1 $6300, A9/A9 II $4500 (USD prices before tax), Z6 III partially stacked for $2500 and it comes with a host of features that makes it close in performance to the Z8/9.
I take you are looking at this from a photographer’s perspective? Manufacturers have to based their products around the needs of today’s consumers and video plays a large role. 24MP is that sweet spot to provide up to 6K60 RAW video without needing to crop. If the market starts clamoring for 6K240 one day, a new type of sensor will need to be created to handle that and by then, the prices for camera will be higher. Let’s be real, most people would love a stacked sensor with higher resolution. Is it possible for chip suppliers to make this in sufficient yields that will cause the price to lower sufficiently to put it in a camera for the masses? At what MP, at what price? I don’t know your use case and what other technology you would prefer in a camera, if Nikon isn’t making the camera you want, there are other manufacturers that may have what you want, give them a try. I went Sony when my Z6 II wasn’t doing what I need. You’ve probably seen my videos on why I gave up the A7R V for the Z8, even though it was a pretty good performer, I recommend the A7R V, as a high MP camera, it does well, the ergonomics isn’t for everyone. For me, I set the A7R V to shoot at 26MP, the Z8 is at 25.6MP, once in a while I will use the full resolution. I also like and have considered a Fuji GFX 50, the choices are numerous out there. Maybe you will find your camera outside of Nikon.
@@waynerm002 no worry. I have enough high MP Nikon cameras like D850, D810, D800 and more. And as I said it is not all about high MP. My D700 and D3s with 12 MP still serve me well😀
@@Audimann Come on man, you got some great cameras there already. LOL! You gotta give it to Nikon for coming out with a new tech for this level of camera, most wanted the 33MP A7 IV sensor, some figured they would re-use the Z6 II sensor. Time to get your hands on a Z8. 😉
@@waynerm002 nah, will skip the Z8 for now. Maybe in the future when the price will drop. Today I got a Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 DG and I needed a Godox speedlite also. So that costed me enough cash😁
you video is for some reason seriously underexposed
I'm not sure what is happening, I noticed some banding when I watched on the iPad but it is fine on my laptop. The original file on my laptop is also brighter than both. Resolve 19 beta has been giving me some headaches. I'll have to check both after the upload, I know YT does some compression but this is different.
Based on my ancient Z6 - i'd expect great low light performance from the z6iii (not to mention all its other fantastic features)... 🦘
This! People seem to forget all the other fantastic features that is in this camera, that make it a standout device.