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Enjoy our unique weekly podcasts as we provide supplementary material for this year's Come Follow Me 2021 lessons. Our gospel scholars help you study the Doctrine and Covenants, Church History, and take and in-depth look at the life of the Prophet Joseph Smith. Just like Come Follow Me 2020, we also will have a continued emphasis on the importance of Book of Mormon Evidence. Watch our Weekly in depth lessons: Come Follow Me 2021 - Hosted by Rod Meldrum & Jonathan Neville along with several other guests. (Approximately 45 min - 1 hour each) www.BookofMormonEvidence.org Join us to enhance your personal and family study of the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants. This channel is produced by Book of Mormon Evidence, The Firm Foundation, Rod Meldrum and other North American Book of Mormon Evidence scholars and researchers. Twice a year, we film and create videos for the Book of Mormon Evidence Conference. Watch over 700 presentations at: www.BookOfMormonEvidence.org/Streaming
Seeking Truth | Book of Mormon Evidence
You may have seen some of our interviews with the Stick of Joseph on their youtube channel, so join us as we gather together as seekers truth.
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Jackson and Hayden Paul are two brothers who run the Stick of Joseph UA-cam channel. The Stick of Joseph channel seeks to make the Book of Mormon accessible by making engaging, entertaining and informative content. Jackson and Hayden are what some would call apologists for the Mormon church. Join us as we meet with them to hear their Mormon stories, and to understand how they continue to believe in core Mormon truth claims in spite of modern scientific evidence.
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See more from the Paul brothers @thestickofjoseph
Jackson and Hayden Paul are two brothers who run the Stick of Joseph UA-cam channel. The Stick of Joseph channel seeks to make the Book of Mormon accessible by making engaging, entertaining and informative content. Jackson and Hayden are what some would call apologists for the Mormon church. Join us as we meet with them to hear their Mormon stories, and to understand how they continue to believe in core Mormon truth claims in spite of modern scientific evidence.
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The Noble Birthright | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Join us with French Canadian Annabel Baril and her testimony and amazing story of faith in the plan of salvation. “I know, life can be hard. We go through tests and hardships and sometimes it can be really hard to relax and chill when you have bills to pay and kids to take care of, but there is something that I am sure about. If God gave you a promise and you do your part, He will keep it! He i...
Are We Understanding the Book of Mormon? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Are we taking the time to come to a better understanding of the Book of Mormon? We know that the Book of Mormon was written for our day, but are we taking the time to get as much as we can from it? Join us from the Book of Mormon Evidence Conference with David Butler who has been a lawyer, a consultant, a corporate trainer, and a registered investment banking representative. He is now a Consult...
David Alexander, Rod Meldrum on BOM & The Bible | Book of Mormon Evidence
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you can listen more to Brother Alexander Here: www.youtube.com/@davidmalvinalexander Many have probably seen or heard of David Alexander. Join us as we discuss his story and journey of faith search for truth. “After a lifetime of searching through the confusing thickets of the 47,500 Non-Latter Day Saint Christian Groups and Churches…it is clear to me that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter D...
Grace vs. Works: The Salvation Debate Unpacked!
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You can watch the whole interview here ua-cam.com/video/CNDu_BMk9-k/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared Join us in this discussion as we explore the profound relationship between grace and works in salvation. Our host delves into the church's evolving views and the crucial balance between faith and obedience. Perfect for those seeking deeper spiritual understanding and meaningful conversations. #GraceVsWo...
Greg Matsen, is Controversy a problem??? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Watch more of Greg Matsen @ www.youtube.com/@CwicShow As members of the church are we more afraid of offending someone than of telling the truth? Sometimes we are afraid of causing contention so we hide behind a veil of politeness and avoid conflict, but conflict or controversy isn’t the problem, the way we respond is. Join us from the Firm Foundation Expo with our faithful discussion with Greg...
Jonah Barnes, can the BOM & apocryphal texts be related?? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Join us from the Firm Foundation Expo (Book of Mormon Evidence Conference) with Jonah Barnes an author and a producer for Ward Radio. Come with us we discuss his book “The Key to the Keystone” and the parallels between the book of Mormon brass plates and the apocrypha. Learn more about Evidences of the Book of Mormon at bookofmormonevidence.org/ To view more videos like this subscribe to www.bo...
Where did the mist of darkness come from? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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“And it came to pass that there was thick darkness upon all the face of the land, insomuch that the inhabitants…could feel the vapor of darkness… And there was not any light seen… for so great were the mists of darkness which were upon the face of the land.” 3 Nephi 8:20, 22. Many have wondered while reading about the destruction after Christ's death in the Book of Mormon. How three days of dar...
Are Volcanoes in the Book of Mormon? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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“And it came to pass in the thirty and fourth year, in the first month, on the fourth day of the month, there arose a great storm, such an one as never had been known in all the land.” 3 Nephi 8:5 With this single verse from the biggest storm in the Book of Mormon starts, causing destruction like never seen before. But where did this great storm take place? If we look at some of the natural dis...
Animals of the Book of Mormon in North America | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Were there monkeys, leopards, and snakes??? Animals of the Book of Mormon in North America | Rod Meldrum with Book of Mormon Evidence Join Rod Meldrum as he takes a deep dive into the animals mentioned in the Book of Mormon and their connection to North America. In this video, Rod breaks down the evidence and shares some cool insights into how these animals fit into the ancient history of this ...
Did It really SNOW in the Book of Mormon?
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Is Snow Mentioned in The Book of Mormon???? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Is Snow Mentioned in The Book of Mormon???? | Book of Mormon Evidence
Was Mulek’s Journey Possible??? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Alternate pioneer handcart route??? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Native American & Phoenician Connections??? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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A Deeper Way to Study the Scriptures? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Modern Stripling Warriors | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Does Truth Matter???? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Sooo….. What does the DNA Prove??? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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Are Native Americans Hebrew??? | Book of Mormon Evidence
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The Incredible Prophecy That Shook the Mississippi River!
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Signs of Tremors & Darkness Upon The Gadianton Robbers | Book of Mormon Evidence
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The Covenant of Blessings: Promised Land, Enoch, and the City of Zion
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DNA & The Book of Mormon | Book of Mormon Evidence
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This guy can teach us so much. Man,......🙌
Heartland all the way 😊
They have such pretty BFF necklaces!
At 12:40 where he says that the divine feminine is secondary... or can be secondary to you because you are a man. There's so so so much theology that relates to what men will do in the eternities. We women want to know what our role will be. All we can find is D&C 132, which tells us that we'll be given to a righteous man. But what do we contribute? So many of us want to add to the conversation. In the temple, there are no women involved in the creation. I have a degree in geology. I LOVE the earth. I would be a great asset in the creation of worlds. We don't speak to Heavenly Mother. Is that my destiny? To never be spoken to or spoke of by my children? My husband will have temples built to worship him and I will be invisible. Forever. And don't give me the whole "God is protecting Heavenly Mother!" If she's a goddess, let her shine. If she's a goddess, she can take it. She can defend herself. Or at the very least, be at the battle's front. Not stuck in the kitchen.
Thanks to all for your hard work. I enjoy learning from you through the spirit.
Great title. Would like more discussion on evidence, instead of a lot of talk about how great you all are. There is a lot of hunger for truth on this true subject.
BOM The most perfect book ever written! 😂Yeah, right ✅ 😂😂😂😂😂
How do you tell an ignorant person that they’re ignorant? I wish it were that easy!! Because you choose not to know, you will never know in this lifetime how perfect that book is!! I pray that you’ll change your heart. The one thing that Truthseekers always say is that “the more they learn, the more they know there’s more to learn.” Progression is eternal if not, damnation would be nothing at all.!
I have stopped listening to the new gen podcasts recycling stuff we have known for years acting like its new...all the while not taking a stand on the truth of the setting for the BoM...totally ingenuous. These guys and ward radio...Bait clickers trying to make a buck off the faith of the weak....
Very interesting discussion! Please continue these!
I love watching all of your videos. Sparks curiosity to learn more. I’m not active, no priesthood in my home but I can feel the spirit pulling me to learn more. Thanks for sharing.
Show me the artifacts!
WELL, SOME SAY I,M A TRUTH SEEKER OF SORTS. LOVE YOU GUYS. THERE IS AN OLD DICHO, SPANISH SAYING, RUSH LIMBAUGH USE TO USE, DRUM ROLL PLEASE, YOU GUYS ARE HAVING MORE FUN THAN A HUMAN BEING IS OUGHT TO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE. I LIVE NEAR HOUSTON, TEXAS AREA, NOW I GO AROUND AND ASK PEOPLE, WHAT IS THE MOST POWERFUL THING YOU KNOW OF, THEY WILL THINGS 30 SECONDS AND ALWAYS SAY,,, GOD,,,. THEN I SAY HE IS NOT A THING BUT YOUR EXACTLY RIGHT. YES, IT IS NOT YOUR LEARNING LIVE ON CAMERA,. EVERY IS LEARNING LIVE ON CAMERA. GREAT TO HAVE YOU IN MY LIFE. GREAT FOR ALL OF US TO HAVE YOU IN OUR LIVES. IN TODAYS LIFE, SPONTAINEITY, IT IS SUCH A GREAT BREATH OF FRESH AIR. IS IT OR IS IT NOT, IN REALITY , THE GIFT OF THE SPIRIT.
Thanks Rod! Stick of Joseph!
Jackson and Hayden are fun to hear. Thanks Rod for having them on your show.
They ARE funny to hear! Mormonism's always been unintentionally hilarious :)
If we want to understand the Book of Mormon, let us look to the prophets and apostles and let us seek out the guidance of the Holy Ghost and personal revelation. I appreciate brother Butler. He is a very studious man. But I think it is better to follow those who have the keys of the Kingdom. I have been through his book and he makes a large number of assumptions and leaps of logic, seeming to read intimations of worshiping Heavenly Mother in almost every passage he reviews. I don't agree with his condemnation of King Josiah, among others.
This is awesome!
Rod, I was already a Heartlander from a few videos I’ve seen from you, Neville, and Wayne May. But this video CLINCHED it. There is no doubt in my mind now. The Nephites lived in North America!
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A beautiful Family. I was able to interact with her children the entire event. It was a true blessing. I love them.
She is the definition of adorable! May God bless her and her family!
Thank you so much! -Annabel Baril
Ther book of Mormon has never been proven or validated by any historians or archeologists. Not one artifact has been found. Gods salvation is really enough, to try to add to it or take away from it, such as with Books of Mormonism, it is really minimizing Jesus Christ and His purpose, External efforts may seem like a noble thing to do but, Jesus is sufficient and His works are sufficient, we can become like Him without ceremonies, temples, priesthoods, added doctrine, etc, we have Jesus Christ our Sovereign and eternal, glorious Savior. 2Tim 3:15 You have known the sacred writings, are able to give you wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Jesus Christ.
Beautiful!!! Thanks so much for this beautiful interview!!! I would dream to go to a firm foundation Conference and to be a speaker. I hope to meet you Rod and especially Wayne too! What amazing knowledge we will finally be able to share to everyone in the Second Coming!!! We all have some pieces
What was the first gospel preached? Galatians 1:9
My husband and I were dreaming to meet Rod a few months ago. I would have never imagined being interviewed by him one day. God is good and with Him, everything is possible! I hope you will have the opportunity to go to a firm foundation Conference one day. God bless you. -Annabel Baril
That Annabelle had long time health problems and still got married and had two children is a testimony to her faith! French Polynesia Tahiti? Sister Bahil knew she would serve a mission there waay back when she was 15 years old. Wonderful testimony!
Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it. -Annabel Baril
I got this from someone really doing some research on the BOM that made me wonder. I'm feeling like the fruits are good in many areas except in places like Ether (first 5 chapters are interesting and Moroni's 12th chapter) but I'm really wondering how much of the BOM was plagiarized other than creative imagination mingled with scripture. Check this out... At somewhere around the 20ish minute message mark of the Callister video I reviewed, Callister begins raving about the Olive tree account in the book of Jacob in BoM: "Does anyone really believe that Joseph Smith dictated this off the top of his head?" Actually we don't! The ideation from the olive tree parable is simple: Romans 11:16-23 - Paul uses an olive tree. What are the clues here? Clue #1: Ensign ran an article on this allegory in August 1988. Toward the end of the article, mostly about Jacob 5, it closes (2nd & 3rd sentences from end) with this: • “Then how blessed will be those who have labored diligently in the vineyard, and how cursed will be those who are cast out! (See Jacob 6:2-3.) Recalling the mercy of God, who ‘stretches forth his hands unto them all the day long’ (Jacob 6:4), Jacob again exhorts his people not to reject the words of the prophets concerning Christ.” Well, where did Smith nab this line below and insert into Jacob 6:4? • “…he stretches forth his hands unto them all the day long; and they are a stiffnecked and a gainsaying people;” • Where? (It comes from Romans 10:21-the very last verse from chapter 10 and only 16 sentences away from when Paul starts talking about “branches” in 11:16) • Romans 10:21: “…All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.” {Smith uses the EXACT same words: “all…day long…stretches forth (his/my) hands…gainsaying people who are stiffnecked/disobedient.} So by Romans 11:17 (clue #2) , Paul says: • “And if some of the branches be BROKEN OFF, and thou, being a WILD olive tree, wert GRAFTED in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;” … (v. 20): “They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith” • So, of course, in Jacob 5:30, Smith is ALSO discussing “broken off branches” and a grafting process: “And it came to pass that the Lord of the vineyard and the servant went down into the vineyard; and they came to the tree whose natural branches had been BROKEN OFF, and the WILD branches had been GRAFTED in; and behold all sorts of fruit did CUMBER the tree. So Paul moves on to talking about “sparing” in v. 21 (clue #3) : • “For if God did not SPARE the natural branches, neither will he SPARE you. (v. 21) • And Smith matches that with his lines about sparing: But, behold, the servant said unto the Lord of the vineyard: SPARE it a little longer. 51 And the Lord said: Yea, I will SPARE it a little longer, for it grieveth me that I should lose the trees of my vineyard.” (5:50-51)” So Paul moves next to the cutting and grafting process (clue #4) : • “Otherwise you too will be CUT OFF. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.” (Romans 11:22-24) • Well, Smith brings in “cutting”: "And thou beheldest that I also CUT DOWN that which CUMBERED this spot of ground, that I might plant this tree in the stead thereof.” (Jacob 5:44) (And he goes on and on about grafting-mentioning “graft” 23 times and “grafted” 8 times!) So where did Smith nab this Biblical word “cumbered” from? (Clue #5) • “…why cumbereth it the ground?” (Luke 13:7) • “…they shall not cumber the ground…” (Jacob 5:49) • “…that they cumber not the ground…” (Jacob 5:66) So Smith works “cumber” (5x) and “cumbered” (once) into the narrative. But he didn’t stop with Luke 13:7. No, he had to work in Luke 13:8 about digging and dunging: • “…I shall dig about it, and dung it:” (Luke 13:8) • “…I have digged about it… and I have dunged it…” (Jacob 5:47) • “…dig about them, and prune them, and dung them…” (Jacob 5:64) • “…dug about it, and dunged it;” (Jacob 5:76) And this passage was EXACTLY referenced in my first comment in this thread about Smith using an immediate “rebound” technique where he goes into overdrive mode to simply repeat and fill up space! You see a good communicator knows not to inundate the listener/reader with endless repetition. Yet Smith does that by taking an eight-verse allegory by Paul in Romans 11, mixing in a little about digging and dunging from Luke 13:7-8, and pruning branches from John 15:2. (Clue #6) Yet in a 77-verse chapter, how many times do we see the following words? • Vineyard: 92 (Jesus IS the Vine, and the Father the Husbandman in KJV, John 15:1…and a pruning process in the vineyard is described starting in v. 2…and Jesus mentions bearing fruit in verses 2, 4, 5, and 8). So, has does this overkill continue to play out in a mere 77-verse span (Clue #7 about Smith's overwrought story-telling tendancies)? (Words listed by # of mentions) • Branch/branches (102 times: Branch 54; Branches 48) • Tree (68) • Fruit (67) • Servant (35) • Nourish/nourished (34: Nourish: 19; Nourished 16...btw, Smith was no "dummy" on this process...he uses these two words 34 times...in modern versions of Romans 11:17, "fatness" is describing as a "nourishing root." • Graft 23 • Root 23 • Wild 21 • Israel 18 • Olive 10 • Prune 9 • Cumber/cumbered 6 I mean, Jacob just got done saying in 4:1: • “…I cannot write but a little of my words, because of the difficulty of engraving our words upon plates” So despite these very difficulties, Jacob is going to overwork these 13 keywords into this allegory 508 times in 76 verses? Really?
8. The Book of Mormon does not advocate the temple work as promoted in Mormonism. Tenth President Joseph Fielding Smith is cited in an official church manual as saying, If you want salvation in the fullest, that is exaltation in the kingdom of God, … you have got to go into the temple of the Lord and receive these holy ordinances which belong to that house, which cannot be had elsewhere. No man shall receive the fullness of eternity, of exaltation alone; no woman shall receive that blessing alone; but man and wife, when they receive the sealing power in the temple of the Lord, shall pass on to exaltation, and shall continue and become like the Lord. And that is the destiny of men, that is what the Lord desires for His children (Joseph Fielding Smith, Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Fielding Smith, 2013, p. 221. Ellipsis in original). Seventeenth President Russell M. Nelson stated, Temple ordinances, covenants, endowments and sealings enable individuals to be reconciled with the Lord and families to be sealed beyond the veil of death. Obedience to temple covenants qualifies us for eternal life - the greatest gift of God to man (“Eternal life comes from obedience to temple ordinances,” Church News, April 7, 2001, p. 10). Yet Alma 32:36 states, “And this I know, because the Lord hath said he dwelleth not in unholy temples, but in the hearts of the righteous doth he dwell” (also see Alma 7:21; Helm. 4:24). While the Book of Mormon does mention temples in several places, there is no BOM evidence for any of the ordinances or practices found in current LDS temples, including: • Washings and Annointings • Baptisms for the dead • Special handshakes (tokens) • New names • Marriages for time and eternity • Celestial rooms As far as as the secrecy found in the temple, the Book of Mormon seems to teach against this. Second Nephi 26:22 says, “And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things.” Secrecy is criticized in Helaman 6:22: “And it came to pass that they did have their signs, yea, their secret signs, and their secret words.” Mormons might say that their temple is “sacred, not secret,” but as one LDS historian put it: While some members will claim that Mormon temples are “sacred not secret,” [church historian Richard] Bushman said that “temples are secret, plain and simple,” noting that even members “don’t speak to each other about it.” (“Seek understanding, not converts, Bushman urges Mormons,” Deseret News, March 6, 2008). 9. The Book of Mormon is silent about beneficial health codes (i.e. Word of Wisdom). Eighth President George Albert Smith said, I sometimes wonder if Latter-day Saints realize that [the Word of Wisdom] has been given to us for our exaltation; not only for our temporal blessing, but to prepare us for spiritual life (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: George Albert Smith, 2011, p. 207. Brackets in original). How has the Word of Wisdom been defined? We actually see it has changed over the years. In 1868, for instance, George Q. Cannon-a member of the First Presidency-stated, We are told, and very plainly too, that hot drinks-tea, coffee, chocolate, cocoa and all drinks of this kind are not good for man . . . We must not permit them to drink liquor or hot drinks, or hot soups or to use tobacco or other articles that are injurious (Journal of Discourses 12:221, 223). This is such an important principle that, according to one church manual: We must obey the Word of Wisdom to be worthy to enter the temple. If we do not obey the Word of Wisdom, the Lord’s Spirit withdraws from us (Gospel Principles, 2009, p. 167). However, the Book of Mormon only uses “Word of Wisdom” once, in Moroni 10:9: “For behold, to one is given by the Spirit of God, that he may teach the word of wisdom.” This is obviously talking about spiritual gifts and a “word” of wisdom, just as the next verse says “word of knowledge.” Never does the Book of Mormon condemn any substance. A Latter-day Saint not holding to this health law today could result in having “the Lord’s Spirit withdraw from us,” which certainly sounds very serious. As Smith said above, it “has been given to us for our exaltation.” How come God wasn’t so concerned for both the temporal as well as the eternal salvation for the ancient Nephites and Lamanites? If these things are unhealthy today, were they not also unhealthy in earlier days? And, if the LDS Church is a “restoration” of biblical Christianity, where does the Bible teach against “hot” drinks or eating meat only in times of famine? (Answer: It doesn’t.) 10. The Book of Mormon does not claim that there was a preexistence where all spirits lived. Third President John Taylor said, We know that our spirits existed with the Father before we came here (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: John Taylor, 2001, p. 187). A seminary teacher’s manual explains, We lived with Heavenly Father before we came to earth. We are His spirit children, and He wants us to have the same joy that He has by becoming like Him (see Jeremiah 1:5; Romans 8:16; Hebrews 12:9) (Old Testament Seminary Teacher Resource Manual, 2003, p. 16). Another one says, All those who chose in the premortal life to follow Heavenly Father’s plan gain a physical body by being born on this earth.” During our mortal life, we are tested to see whether we are willing to live by faith and obey Heavenly Father’s commandments when we are not in His physical presence (see Alma 34:32; Abraham 3:24-26) (Endowed from on High Temple Preparation Teacher’s Manual, 2003, p. 4). If the preexistence is a true teaching and even valid for those who lived in Book of Mormon times, then it is strangely silent in the pages of the Book of Mormon. 11. From the days of Brigham Young until 1978 the priesthood was withheld from Black people, therefore eliminating their ability to be sealed in the temple and participate in ordinances required for exaltation in the celestial kingdom. They also could not baptize their own children and bless their homes, or give blessings to others. A comparison of three examples from the Book of Mormon shows that the words "black" and "white" in this context mean "wicked" and "righteous" Marvin Perkins notes a pattern that indicates that the words "black and white" in the Book of Mormon are synonymous with "wicked and righteous" and "out of the church or in the church".[1] 2 Nephi 26:33: and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile. Alma 1:30: and they did not set their hearts upon riches; therefore they were liberal to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, whether out of the church or in the church, having no respect to persons as to those who stood in need Alma 11:44: Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous Perkins concludes, Now, in Alma 1:30 and behold “…they did not set their hearts upon riches; therefore they were liberal to all, both old and young,” (there’s your pattern) “…bond and free… male and female, whether out of the church or in the church,” There’s your black or white. How about Alma 11: 44? “Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free… male and female,” (again, there’s your pattern) “both the wicked and the righteous.” Notes Marvin Perkins, "Blacks in the Scriptures," 2013 FairMormon Conference (7 August 2014). cks in the Scriptures," In the BOM… There are some serious problems with the law of Moses not being interpreted correctly, that’s being false doctrine according to the Old Testament. Messiah, chapter 2, verse three says, and they took of the first lines of the flocks, that they might offer sacrifices and burn offerings according to the law, Moses. At first glance, the verse might seem benign, but Lamb explained who is an author, the law Moses teaches that the first lines of the flocks were never offered as burnt offerings or sacrifices. All first lines belong to the Lord and could not be counted as man’s personal property, whereas all burnt offerings or sacrifices for sin of every kind must be selected from man’s own personal property or be purchased with his own money. for that purpose. While all firstlings of the flock, as the Lord’s property, came into the hands of the high priest, and by him could be offered up as a peace offering, not as a burnt offering, or a sin offering, himself and family eating the flesh. (See Ex. 13:2,12 and 22: 29,30; Numb. 3:13; 2d Sam. 24: 24; Numb. 18: 15-18 and other places.) Conclusion Again, it all comes down to the Book of Mormon. Is it really the “most correct book on earth”? Or is it not? It can’t be both. A Mormon should be concerned for the lack of support in the Book of Mormon for the many current and essential teachings of the LDS Church. If this scripture is not being followed, then why does the church so often emphasize the importance of reading it regularly?
4. The Book of Mormon is silent on the teaching that marriage is a requirement for a person to gain celestial glory. Joseph Smith said: Except a man and his wife enter into an everlasting covenant and be married for eternity, while in this probation, by the power and authority of the Holy Priesthood, they will cease to increase when they die; that is, they will not have any children after the resurrection. But those who are married by the power and authority of the priesthood in this life, and continue without committing the sin against the Holy Ghost, will continue to increase and have children in the celestial glory (History of the Church 5:391). Yet, except for reciting Matthew 5:32 in 3 Nephi 12:32 and two other places (3 Nephi 22:1, 4 Nephi 11), the concept of marriage is ignored. This seems strange when it is considered how vital marriage is to Mormons today. If God thought marriage was so important, surely he would have wanted the Nephites to know about this. 5. The Book of Mormon teaches that, generally, polygamy is wrong. Second LDS President Brigham Young taught: The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy (August 19, 1866, Journal of Discourses 11:269). Men marrying multiple women was practiced in the latter-half of the 19th century and considered an “essential” doctrine for any man who wanted to gain exaltation. It was never intended by these early leaders to have this practice abolished, as future fourth President Wilford Woodruff said, If we were to do away with polygamy, it would only be one feather in the bird, one ordinance in the Church and kingdom. Do away with that, then we must do away with prophets and Apostles, with revelation and the gifts and graces of the Gospel, and finally give up our religion altogether and turn sectarians and do as the world does, then all would be right. We just can’t do that, for God has commanded us to build up His kingdom and to bear our testimony to the nations of the earth, and we are going to do it, come life or come death. He has told us to do thus, and we shall obey Him in days to come as we have in days past ( December 12, 1869, Journal of Discourses 13:166). Mormonism no longer teaches plural marriage for this life despite the fact that it was such an important teaching in the 19th century. Polygamy is contrary to what the Book of Mormon teaches: Jacob 2:24-30: Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord. Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph. Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old. Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none; For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts. Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes. For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things. Jacob 3:5: Behold, the Lamanites your brethren, whom ye hate because of their filthiness and the cursing which hath come upon their skins, are more righteous than you; for they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord, which was given unto our father- that they should have save it were one wife, and concubines they should have none, and there should not be whoredoms committed among them. Never once does the Book of Mormon say polygamy would be allowed unless it was necessary to “raise up seed” (Jacob 2:30). History does not say that polygamy was ever needed for this reason, despite the belief of many that there were more women than men in the pioneering days. For more on this, go to Was Polygamy Necessary in the 19th Century Because There were More Women than Men? 6. The Book of Mormon never claims that humans or Jesus are the literal offspring of God and his heavenly wife. Apostle Boyd K. Packer said, The Father is the one true God. This thing is certain: no one will ever ascend above Him; no one will ever replace Him. Nor will anything ever change the relationship that we, His literal offspring, have with Him” (Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled, p. 293). BYU Professor Stephen E. Robinson explained, The official doctrine of the Church is that Jesus is the literal offspring of God. He’s got 46 chromosomes; 23 came from Mary, 23 came from God the eternal Father (As cited in the DVD The Mormon Puzzle, produced by the Southern Baptist Convention, 1997). Someone please point to a verse where such unique LDS teaching was ever given. Hint: It’s not there. 7. The Book of Mormon teaches it’s impossible to do vicarious work for the dead. Fourteenth President Howard W. Hunter explained, Furthermore, the dead are anxiously waiting for the Latter-day Saints to search out their names and then go into the temples to officiate in their behalf, that they may be liberated from their prison house in the spirit world” (“A Temple-Motivated People,” Ensign, March 2004, p. 41). Fifteenth President Gordon B. Hinckley wrote, Through living proxies who stand in behalf of the dead, the same ordinances are available to those who have passed from mortality. In the spirit world they then are free to accept or reject those earthly ordinances performed for them, including baptism, marriage, and the sealing of family relationships. There must be no compulsion in the work of the Lord, but there must be opportunity (Be Thou an Example, p. 131). Yet Alma 34:32-35 clearly explains that there are no “second-chances” to obtain salvation. It says, 32 For behold, this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of this life is the day for men to perform their labors. 33 And now, as I said unto you before, as ye have had so many witnesses, therefore, I beseech of you that ye do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity, behold, if we do not improve our time while in this life, then cometh the night of darkness wherein there can be no labor performed. 34 Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world. 35 For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold, ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he doth seal you his; therefore, the Spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and hath no place in you, and the devil hath all power over you; and this is the final state of the wicked. Using this passage, twelfth President Spencer W. Kimball wrote, . . . the time to act is now, in this mortal life. One cannot with impunity delay his compliance with God’s commandments (The Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 10, italics in original). A Mormon who holds that work is efficacious for their dead relatives cannot find any support in the Book of Mormon for these temple practices.
Has anyone ever noticed… Regarding the book that has "the fullness of the ever lasting gospel:... The less rational something is the greater blind faith is required to believe it Top 10 unique Teachings of Mormonism Not Supported by the Book of Mormon By Eric Johnson - Mormon Research Ministries According to Joseph Smith in the History of the Church 4:461: I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book. Just what are those precepts talked about in the Book of Mormon that make it the most correct? If this is the case, then why does Mormonism have so many teachings that are not found in or are even contradicted by the Book of Mormon? Let’s take a look at 10 doctrines of Mormonism with no support in the “most correct” book on earth. 1. The Book of Mormon teaches that there is only one God. BYU Professor Charles Harrell explains: One of the most distinctive doctrines of Mormonism is the belief in a plurality of Gods. This is generally understood to mean that there are innumerable Gods besides (and above) the God that we worship, all of whom are creators of worlds and objects of worship. Furthermore, these Gods were all once human, and just as they attained Godhood, so can we” (“This is my Doctrine”: The Development of Mormon Theology, p. 114). Yet, the Book of Mormon teaches in Alma 11:26-29: 26 And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God? 27 And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God. 28 Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? 29 And he answered, No. Second Nephi 31:21 states, And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen. Meanwhile, 3 Nephi 11:27 says, And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one. Nowhere is a plurality of gods supported in the Book of Mormon. 2. The Book of Mormon teaches God was never a man nor the offspring of another God. Mormonism’s founder Joseph Smith taught: I will go back to the beginning before the world was, to show what kind of being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth, for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why He interferes with the affairs of man. God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret, if the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible,-I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with him, as one man talks and communes with another (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345. Italics in original. See also Achieving a Celestial Marriage, p. 129). Yet the Book of Mormon teaches: 3 Nephi 24:6: For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. (Same as Malachi 3:6) Mormon 9:9, 19: For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing? . . .And if there were miracles wrought then, why has God ceased to be a God of miracles and yet be an unchangeable Being? And behold, I say unto you he changeth not; if so he would cease to be God; and he ceaseth not to be God, and is a God of miracles. Moroni 7:22: For behold, God knowing all things, being from everlasting to everlasting… Moroni 8:18: For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity. 3. The Book of Mormon teaches that it is impossible for a person to become a god. Joseph Smith said, Here, then, is eternal life-to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 346-347). Yet the Book of Mormon denies this teaching from the LDS founder. Instead, it says that God has always been God while never assuming that humans can evolve into gods. (See verses in #2 above.) While Mormon apologists will use the Bible in their attempt to twist it into saying something it doesn’t say, they never use the Book of Mormon to support this teaching. Again, if it’s the most correct of any book on earth, why didn’t God make this teaching more clear to the ancient Americans and everyone who is encouraged to read the Book of Mormon to gain a burning in the bosom.
Change of lds doctrines necessary for salvation.... ua-cam.com/video/oQoQ6Hsool4/v-deo.htmlsi=UJUw_PsWK80vUB1T Also, regarding the temple... Here’s a little something from the1846 LDS endowment….…. We are required to kneel at this altar, where we have an oath administered to the effect, that we will, from this time henceforth and forever, use our influence to murder this nation They say the murdering of Smith is a national offense. It is true that all was not personally engaged in the act; but the nation has long winked at the abuse of the Mormons, and in this way they have encouraged mobs from time to time, until they have finally taken the life of the Lord's Prophet, and now it is the will of the Lord, that the nation should be destroyed; and this is his will, that we shall enter into this secret conspiracy against the Government, www.ldsendowment.org/vandusen.html christvm.com/2023/09/18/do-not-step-foot-in-mormon-temples/
I’ve heard it said, if you have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation, if you do not have the truth, it should be harmed. Mormon Rescue... ua-cam.com/video/zb7N_xmViwo/v-deo.htmlsi=we2HKGrFh7qBCW7t We no longer need to practice temple ordinances because jesus has came back to us with god and the vail is not necessary because salvation is completely free and available through Jesus.... ua-cam.com/video/gZyeOB7WAQI/v-deo.htmlsi=CvzeVCJdeGeykvFx 1984 endowment... ua-cam.com/video/sgsO58gTolY/v-deo.htmlsi=3uK2HOnZ6ASKt32X The Prophet Joseph Smith taught, "Ordinances instituted in the heavens before the foundation of the world, in the priesthood, for the salvation of men, are not to be altered or changed." Temple in the 1800's (greater detail)... ua-cam.com/video/HXmoXy8gDM4/v-deo.htmlsi=WTj8bSEnQ_R0OBdn m.ua-cam.com/video/HXmoXy8gDM4/v-deo.html --- “Now the purpose in Himself in the winding up scene of the last dispensation is that all things pertaining to that dispensation should be conducted precisely in accordance with the preceding dispensations.... He set the temple ordinances to be the same forever and ever and set Adam to watch over them, to reveal them from heaven to man, or to send angels to reveal them." • The Prophet Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol.4, p. 208 -- The Gospel can not possibly be changed.... the saving principles must ever be the same. They can never change.... the Gospel must always be the same in all of its parts.... no one can change the Gospel... if they attempt to do so, they only set up a man-made system which is not the Gospel, but is merely a reflection of their own views.... if we substitute 'any other Gospel,' there is no salvation in it.... the Lord and His Gospel remain the same--always." • The Prophet's Message, Church News, June 5, 1965 -- “No jot, iota, or tittle of the temple rites is otherwise than uplifting and sanctifying. In every detail the endowment ceremony contributes to covenants of morality of life, consecration of person to high ideals, devotion to truth, patriotism to nation, and allegiance to God." • Apostle James E. Talmage, The House of the Lord, 1968, p. 84 -- “...God is unchangeable, the same yesterday, today and forever... The great mistake made down through the ages by teachers of Christianity, is that they have supposed they could place their own private interpretation upon scriptures, allow their own personal convenience to become a controlling factor, and change the basis of Christian law and practice to suit themselves. This is apostacy." • The Prophet's Message, Church News, June 5, 1965
Joseph Smith has created an organization who calls themselves a church but when you get to know them it's nothing but a lying organization
Wow. What am amazing story. Thank you for sharing it with us brother Alexander. Thank you for your insight through your trials. Thank you for your perseverance and faith. I was raised in the church having generations of disciples before me I feel that I take many of the things you speak about for granted. Thank you, Brother Meldrum: for your quest to find the archeological evidence of the book of Mormon. I found you about 7 years ago and have been in awe of everything presented.
Love this so much!!
Hi. Thanks for this. My question: is it possible to study the DNA of Hopewell people from their remains? For example, from Zelph's mound, since Joseph Smith identified Zelph as a lamanite.
I really appreciate this interview and all the information. You guys are great!!
Two very wonderful humans! Love these guys!
Smart man truly seeking truth!!!
I think that the feminine aspects are contained in the sealed books
The Book of Mormon is a 19th century compilation of 19th century sermons. Heavenly Mother is greater than that nonsense.
Oh c'mon. The reason we don't talk about "heavenly mother" is because archaeology, ancient epigraphy studies, the uguritic texts, and even the Bible itself tell us she is Ashrah, and it ended in "divorce". It was Josiah's fault. These are not mysteries anymore.
Humanity had Heavenly Mother longer than we’ve been without Her. I’m excited for the restoration of that tradition. The damage Josiah and Hezekiah have dealt human spirituality is incalculable.
@coryhorton5837 The modern Church doesn't "restore" anything. They dither about the busy work of policy. Restoring Ashrah is far too bold a move for them. They have important things to solve like, who gets to use the bathrooms, and how many new buildings to announce.
@@cohort29 BTW, I didn't mean for my previous to come off terse towards you. It's just a general rant about the Church. I appreciate that you actually know what I'm talking about! That's better than most.
Get the book, "In the Language of Adam." I've listened to almost all of Dave Butler's various UA-cam interviews. While he probably is right that he's covered all of the topics online, I would say he hasn't covered them as thoroughly or as organizedly (is that a word?) as he does in the book. I've been through it 3 times already, and want to go through it again soon.
Have you read his book titled Plain and Precious things? If so, is In the Language of Adam similar?
@@aaronfrazier6204 Most of what is in Plain and Precious things is covered in In the Language of Adam. However, In the Language of Adam has much more.
Mormons are unwitting worshipers of Satan. before everyone jumps in my comment and gets mad at me, and start yelling that Mormons aren't devil worshipers; first... I didn't say that she knew it, which is why I use the word unwitting. It is unbeknownst to you because it has a thick veneer of how you convey through the avenue of your beliefs, how Christians should behave. I was once a devil worshiper so I see his signature in your church. there's lots of things I've learned about Satan when I stepped away from God; such as, Satan cannot take your soul, it is you that gives it up through conducting yourselves whether conscious or subconsciously, permitting the forfeiture of your soul. despite what we see in movies or reading books, you cannot sell your soul, because it doesn't belong to you. It is because of these two things that Satan has to conduct himself in such a way, that he doesn't appear to be there. Read that last part again. It may seem like an oxymoron but it's not, especially when it comes to Mormons. Another thing that I learned about Satan is that Satan worshipers who actually bow to him, conify the image of a man as part of the physicality of their worship. part of this is what is in scripted on many of the idols of baphomet which says, as above so below. however you conduct yourselves here, and whatever makes you happiest, will be manifested in the afterlife as part of your ideal heaven. in Mormonism they believe in a pre-existence as spirit children, and they are sent to earth to be encapsulated in a human form and to take on the experiences of a mortal life to prove their worthiness to return, and if such actions in this life have been as it had been established by the last dispensation through Joseph Smith, which is believed to have been the intentions of God since the beginning, they will ascend again, and be exalted. allowing them to have their own heaven, with their own throne, amongst their own stars of their own creation, including something similar to Earth, where they will have their own spirit children, and rule amongst them, and they too like we have on Earth, will look to the clouds as the abode of God, just as they have here, And he will become God just like his God was before him. let me show you how eerily similar this is to what Satan wanted for himself. follow with me: how you are falling from heaven oh Lucifer, son of the morning! how you were cut down to the ground, you who have weakened the nations! for you have said in your heart: I will ascend into heaven. {just like Mormons expect to do after being sent down here to be born of human bodies} I will exalt my throne above the stars of God. {Mormons if they follow the tenants and are found worthy, they themselves expect to become gods which means they would have their own heaven amongst their own stars that they themselves created} I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; {this is referring to Zion which according to scripture is heaven here on earth. The issue here is the only person that could sit there is the Christ who is the physical manifestation of the law. Mormons however have established a new Zion, and Christ being a physical being, unlike his father, is not going to be in two places at once, or we would have seen this demonstrated in the Book of Mormon as a before and after his crucifixion. The closest things that Mormons tried to make parallel between these two is James 10:16 which I will get to later. this new Zion the seat would be empty because Christ already has a Zion which he had promised to Christians} I will send above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High. {so everything Satan believes encapsulates God, he wants for himself, which oddly enough it's exactly what you're promised. All the steps are there. Mormons is spirit children descended from heaven, Satan was cast down. Satan said that he will be exalted, which is exactly what Mormons expect to do if they're good a little Mormons. they will have their own throne amongst their own stars, and Satan himself made the affirmative statement that he will also be exalted with his throne above the stars of God. Mormons have established their own Zion, and Satan promised that he will also sit on the Mount of the congregation on the 1st of the size of the North which is also a reference to Zion. Mormons expect to be like God and rule in their own heaven and be like the God that was before them. Satan said he will ascend above the heights of the clouds which would be in heaven and be like the most high, which is what Mormons expect to do when they become Gods. this is not the only connection between Satanism and Mormonism semicolon as I said before Satanist make a big deal about worshiping the flash, because it is the one thing that is or could be dependent on. they don't want put faith in something they can't see. strangely enough you'll also find that most divorce spurs actually claim not to be actual divorce first but atheists. this is a turnabout of Mormonism that claims to be Christian even though they don't worship like Christians, which brings me full circle to the emphasis I put on the worship of man and devil worship, because the Mormon God is a flesh and bone. this is literally no different from what devil worshipers believe, because they are arrested by the idea that Satan is the real God. Mormons put emphasis on things that are man-made which is why they insist on building so many temples around the world. they believe they're acting on an archaic form of religion which man has moved away from what it was intended, which is outlined in many different ways in Mormon theology. their god is also not omnipresent, and of the entities in the scripture, it is only Satan that proves himself to be absent of this omnipresence. this is demonstrated in the account of Job; God already knew what was going to happen and he allowed it, not as a lesson to Job, although I listen for mankind, but more of a lesson for Satan to show him that God can see well into the future. It is only through the Mormon god planet that the Mormon God is omnipresent. your God needs a physical object in order to exercise his godly power. much the same way Joseph Smith portrayed himself as this seer and the use of the Seers stone. Joseph Smith is a cult leader, not a religious icon: He not only places himself as a person of importance several years after writing the Book of Mormon, but he places himself in the Bible post facto as this prophesied seer long after the Book of Mormon had already been written, as well as being partially related to Christ through the line of Jesse who is the father of David. for you Mormons that don't believe me you can look this up in the doctrine and covenants section 113. Book of Isaiah clearly states that there were no gods formed before him and there will be none after. this would imply any such gods that believe following certain tenants, that they will be exalted upon believing they will go to heaven for believing this line of crap. What I can assure every Mormon here is that you are 100% guaranteed to meet the god that you worship.
TWO GREAT MORMON CIVILIZATIONS, WHERE ARE THEY?? The Book of Mormon purports to portray the rise and development of two great civilizations. As to just how great these civilizations were, some excerpts from the Book itself adequately illustrate: "The whole face of the land become covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous almost, as it were the sand of the sea." (Mormon 1:7) "...Fine workmanship of wood, in buildings, and in machinery, and also in iron and cooper, and brass and steel, makings [sic.] all manners of tools..." (Jarom 1:8 and 2 Nephi 5:15) "...grain...silks...cattle...oxen...cows...sheep...swine...goats...horses...asses...elephants..." (see Ether 9:17-19) "...did multiply and spread...began to cover the face of the whole earth, from sea south to sea north, from the sea west to the sea east..." (Heleman 3:8) "...had been slain...two millions" [Jaredites] (see Ether 15:2). "...their shipping and their building of ships, and their building of temples, and of synagogues and their sanctuaries..." (Heleman 3:14, see also 2 Nephi 5:15, 16 and Alma 16:13). "...there were ten more who did fall...with their ten thousand each..." (see Mormon 6:10-15). "...swords...cimeters...breastplates...arm-shields...armor" (see Alma 43:18, 19; 3:5 and Ether 5:15). "...multiplied exceedingly, and spread upon the face of the land, and became exceedingly rich..." (Jarom 1:8). See 3 Nephi 8:9, 10, 14, and 9:4, 5,6, 8: where cities and inhabitants were sunk in the depths of the sea and earth. In addition to the foregoing statements from the Book of Mormon which indicate the tremendous spread of the culture of these races, there are some thirty-eight cities cataloged in the Book of Mormon, evidence that these were indeed mighty civilizations which should, by all the laws of archeological research into the culture of antiquity, have left vast amounts of "finds" to be evaluated. But such is not the case as we shall show. The Mormons have yet to explain the fact that leading archeological researchers not only have repudiated the claims of the Book of Mormon as to the existence of these civilizations, but have adduced considerable evidence to show the impossibility of the accounts given in the Book of Mormon. The Smithsonian Institution of Washington has also added its voice against the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon, and I quote: "The Smithsonian Institution has never used the Book of Mormon instead any way as a scientific guide. Smithsonian archeologist see no direct connection between the archeology of the New World and the subject matter of the book. National Geographic had a TV series that lasted for 5 seasons on a new radar scan called "LiDar." National Geographic using LiDar scanned over 800 sq.miles of South America jungle and discover newly found Myan structures that shook the archeological world. But NOTHING was ever mentioned about any ancient Mormon civilizations being discovered. Which doesn't look good for the Book of Mormon archeological claims. And the Mormon church is running out of jungle to prove any archeological evidence to support anything in the Book of Mormon. So Mormons, where are these ancient Mormon civilizations and why haven't the Mormon church paid for more LiDar scans of the jungle to find your ancient Mormon civilizations??
We know about you, Albert. _The message is for those with eyes to see and ears to hear!_
Its because the Book of Mormon is fiction
@@rconger24 - it must be exhausting being Albert. At worst lying and and at least illiterate to read the answers he has been given over and over.
This is an amazing comment. It’s amazing how much evidence is against Mormonism. They only see it when they want to wake up. And as soon as they even open their eyes it’s super obvious. The problem is getting them to open their eyes
@@rconger24Absolutely nothing has been found to prove the book of Mormon I mean nothing, Where is Zarahemia it doesn't exist Joseph Smith made it all up and Managed to deceived Millions of Mormons to believe his lies
MORMONS REFORMED EGYPTIAN LANGUAGE THAT MAKES UP THE BOOK OF MORMON, DOES NOT EXIST. The Book of Mormon, and work of scripture of the LDS movement, is asserted by both itself and Joseph Smith, the founder of the movement, to have been originally written in the Native American writing system of "reformed Egyptian" characters. Scholars reference works on languages do not acknowledge the existence of either a "reformed Egyptian" language or "reformed Egyptian" script as it was described by Joseph Smith. Therefore is no archeological, linguistic, or other evidence of the use of Egyptian writing in the ancient Americas. MAINSTREAM SCHOLARLY VIEW OF "REFORMED EGYPTIAN. Standard language reference works contain no reference to "reformed Egyptian" and it described with this term only in the Book of Mormon. No non-Mormon scholars acknowledge the existence of either a "reformed Egyptian" language or a "reformed Egyptian" script as it has been described in Mormon belief. For instance, in 1996, John A. Wilson, a professor of Eygyptology at the University of Chicago, wrote, "From time to time there are allegations that picture writing has been found in America [...] In no case has a professional Egyptologist been able to recognize these characters as Egyptian hieroglyphs. From our stand point there is no such language as "reformed Egyptian." Anthropologist Michael D. Coe of Yale University, and expert in pre-Columbian Mesoamerican studies, wrote, "Of all the peoples of the pre-Columbian New World, only the ancient "Maya" had complete script." Fifteen examples of distinct writing systems have been identified in pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, many from a single inscription. So Mormons, if "reformed Egyptian" doesn't exist, then, why are you believing in something that doesn't exist??
So which of the 47,500 Christian sects or beliefs do you belong to again?
@@kellymcdonald1895 - ignore this guy, he has some anger and bitterness issues mixed with an inability to comprehend English and the answers he has been given to his feigned interested questions.
@@Jeanie-nv7lo I want to ask this guy if "reformed Arabic" does exist. From his answer depends further light or no. But he doesn't seem asking because he is seeking the truth but rather to destroy other's beliefs so it's hard to have a frank discussion in that case.
@@williamrasoanaivo5381the Mormons always go into damage control especially when people give them concrete evidence The Book of Mormon and the Mormon church is nothing but bulshit
Have you guys heard of the Second Book of Commandments yet ? Published by the School of the Prophets by United Order Publications Salem Utah through The Lords Foreordained Prophet who was cast out of the LDS Church in 1972 for receiving dictated Revelations from God the Father and Jesus Christ, which started in 1961 through to 2018 having received 275 dictated Revelations which I have been studying for over 3 years since April 2021 , this Foreordained Prophet is called by the Lord to continue where Joseph Smith left off , I must urge and encourage you to study the Book for yourselves, so you can test the spirit behind these Revelations, something which President Kimball never permitted the church or members to do with his Revelation on the Priesthood, the members never even saw that Revelation, and to stress the point, did we ever hear testimony from any of the Prophets ,Seers, and Revelators that we have known, to the effect that they know by the power of the Holy Ghost that the voice which President Kimball heard was the voice of Jesus Christ. No I am extremely confident that we have not and never will hear such a testimony, because that Revelation was a Revelation to the World, for the World, and of the World, and had nothing whatsoever to do with the The Lord Jesus Christ. Why would The Lord give the Prophet a Revelation to drastically change the order of the Priesthood and then instruct that Prophet never to issue that Revelation for the Church, that behaviour is a great folly a nonsense and a Mockery before God. You will recognise the Lords voice in these Revelations if you haven’t already cast them out before hand, with your unbelief. From a member of 41 years 38 active, yes the Prophets from Joseph Smith to Lorenzo Snow are all true, those who came after were Presidents only, with no more dictated Revelations since 1889 135 years.
R.M. is an exceptionally handsome and charismatic man!
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Great sight of actual biblical archeological evidences!
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Great sight of actual biblical archeological evidences!
The American Indians were the only indigenous people here. No other civilization ever happened. But a great subject matter for fiction.
Also native Americans have no Jewish DNA.
Indigenous America is/was the furthest thing from a monolithic culture. There are plenty of distinct people groups who flourished and fell. Additionally, the Lehite group was at _most_ what, 20 people? There were other people close by when they arrived--Sherem was one, who "came among the people" and was notable for being able to speak their language (Jacob 7:1-4). And who _knows_ what was lost when smallpox swept through in the 1500s and killed 90% of the native population!
Real evidence produced by real professionals would be nice.
@@JIKOKALOL I was merely trying to point out that "No other civilization ever happened" is too broad of a brush to be painting with, when accounting for more than two millennia of history across an entire continent, and when we aren't even sure exactly where we should be looking. The Wikipedia category "Extinct Native American Tribes" has 102 entries, and those are just the ones we know about! In the case of the Book of Mormon, I would suggest that "absence of evidence should not be taken as evidence of absence" applies.
The miracle of the book of Mormon is that people believe it is anything more than a scam to control sheeple.
Surly the most likely reason we are instructed not to talk of heavenly Mother is because there is more than one Heavenly Mother. right. ?
Nope - it's simple - and the explanation has been given plenty. So that we don't blaspheme her name as the world does to Heavenly Father.