Trent Whitney
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Paramotor Engine Outs and Forced Landings - Vittorazi, EOS, Polini and Rotax - Nobody is Immune.
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Here are three engine outs and three recent forced landings. Statistically, I have experienced an engine out or forced landing about 2% of the time. Are you ready for an engine out or forced landing? Do you keep a landing site in range at all times? Are you ready to hike? Do you carry a first aid kit with the proper gear to treat more serious injuries?
Vittorazi Moster 185 Factory R vs. Polini Thor 202 - The Paramotor Shootout You’ve Been Waiting For!
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The results may surprise you…
My New Polini THOR 202 Paramotor vs. My Moster 185 Factory R - First Impressions.
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I’m excited to compare these two engines! 185 Factory R Vs. THOR202 Engine Size 184.7 cc. vs. 205 cc Power 27 HP. vs. 33 HP Max RPM 9,000 rpm. vs. 8,500 rpm Gear Reduction/Drive 2.87 belt drive vs. 2.8 gear/oil Max Propeller RPM at max rpm 3135 rpm vs. 3035 rpm Propeller rotation Left rotation. vs. right rotation Propeller size 140cm. vs. 140cm Cooling Air cooled. vs. liquid cooled Oil Mixture ...
Wingovers, Rolls, and Paramotoring with a Bush Plane!
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Wingovers, Rolls, and Paramotoring with a Bush Plane!
Memorial Day Paramotor Flight over the Idaho Field of Heroes Memorial.
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An amazing Memorial Day Flight! My first weighted flight simulating a front passenger. Currently, I am working on my FAA exemption through the USPPA to become an Introductory Tandem Instructor. Once completed, I will be able to carry a passenger for introductory tandem Instructional flights. The purpose is to introduce others to powered paragliding and then refer them to a proper school to lear...
Replacing My EOS Quattro Paramotor Exhaust! Rotax 503 Upgrades…
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Replacing My EOS Quattro Paramotor Exhaust! Rotax 503 Upgrades…
Why Was My EOS Quattro Paramotor Engine Replaced Under Warranty?
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Why Was My EOS Quattro Paramotor Engine Replaced Under Warranty?
Trike Paramotoring on Skis in the Snow!
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Great time in Heise, Idaho flying to and from a few different private airfields with permission from the owners. This video highlights two of six flights that day before my camera batteries died in the cold. The trike is a Power2Fly Fenix XC Duo tandem trike with a Vittorazi Cosmos 300.
My Longest Paramotor Flight Yet on the EOS Quattro!
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The EOS Quattro has been an amazing cross-country machine! On this flight I flew for 2-hours and 70 miles averaging about 425 liters per hour on a 26m BGD Luna 2 with an average speed of about 35 miles per hour. On this particular morning I abandoned my first launch. In Pocatello the winds either blow too hard to fly or not at all. Some light and variable wind days can be extremely difficult to...
First Time! Power2Fly Fenix XC Trike Paramotor on Kangook Skis. To Ski or Not to Ski?
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Flying on skis is an absolute blast! I was literally landing in fields in the middle of nowhere, full stop, and then taking back off! This could really open up backcountry flying options in the winter as long as the snow isn’t too deep!
Review - EOS Quattro 4-Stroke Paramotor Engine - Fuel Consumption, Weight, Likes and Dislikes.
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What an amazing engine! The EOS Quattro burns half the fuel of my MY20 Moster 185 dual start and more than half the fuel of my Moster 185 Factory R! It makes more power than the standard Moster 185, and it’s whisper quiet! In this video I have an amazing flight over Pocatello, Idaho with the clouds cascading off of the mountains! Check it out!
Paramotoring 50 Miles Around Bear Lake - SkyVentures Paramotor Fly-in Bear Lake, Idaho 2023
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Paramotoring 50 Miles Around Bear Lake - SkyVentures Paramotor Fly-in Bear Lake, Idaho 2023
How Does the All-New EOS Quattro 4-Stroke Paramotor Engine Compare to the Vittorazi Moster 185?
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How Does the All-New EOS Quattro 4-Stroke Paramotor Engine Compare to the Vittorazi Moster 185?
Paramotoring with Rick and Derek at the American Falls Reservoir
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Paramotoring with Rick and Derek at the American Falls Reservoir
Paramotoring Around My Old Neighborhood and The Donnersberg in Germany
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Paramotoring Around My Old Neighborhood and The Donnersberg in Germany
Nürburgring Taxi 2023 - A Hot Lap in the Rain in a 2023 BMW M5 CS
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Nürburgring Taxi 2023 - A Hot Lap in the Rain in a 2023 BMW M5 CS
Paramotoring Around the Clouds in Class G Airspace
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Paramotoring Around the Clouds in Class G Airspace
Paramotoring at the St. Anthony Sand Dunes - August 2023
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Paramotoring at the St. Anthony Sand Dunes - August 2023
Paramotoring Like a Bush Plane
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Paramotoring Like a Bush Plane
Paramotoring Over Pocatello- Flooding, A Train Derailment, Racing a Train, and a Motor Out!
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Paramotoring Over Pocatello- Flooding, A Train Derailment, Racing a Train, and a Motor Out!
Paramotor Flight #211 - The Snake River and Fort Hall Bottoms
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Paramotor Flight #211 - The Snake River and Fort Hall Bottoms

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @UlfRflying
    @UlfRflying 2 дні тому

    Someone in the comments mentioned a 4stroke with fuel injection. I have seen a ParaTrike with an SwissAuto 250 engine. One cylinder 250cc, 4stroke fuel injection. It was on a Fresh Breeze Bullix.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 День тому

      @@UlfRflying the Aero 1000 is Fuel Injected from Blackhawk. Too heavy for foot launch.

  • @UlfRflying
    @UlfRflying 2 дні тому

    Thanks for sharing your insight. I fly a Simononi engine now, and I can’t complain about reliability but it’s just too loud. EOS Quattro will most probably be the next motor. Greetings from Austria!

  • @bradwiebelhaus7065
    @bradwiebelhaus7065 5 днів тому

    Lot of practice with no power landings. Good work.

  • @louisschoon903
    @louisschoon903 5 днів тому

    Thanks for sharing

  • @butchdavis2703
    @butchdavis2703 14 днів тому

    I have over 50 hours on my polini Thor 202. I change the oil in the wet clutch every 2 flights, and also check and clean the spark plug at the same time, and tune as needed, I have the 140 2 blade eprop and I love it. I weigh 250 pounds and have plenty of power. Maintenance is the key that I have learned with it. I’ve changed the jets 4 times when I first received it and it runs perfectly. I’m very happy and will recommend it to anyone who asks me about it. I have plenty of videos on UA-cam showing it.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 14 днів тому

      @@butchdavis2703 awesome motor! Thanks for sharing your experience!

  • @reinerressel975
    @reinerressel975 18 днів тому

    Nice video , but men a hole in the piston is clearly a sign of a. to lean mixture !! It’s like to play Russian roulette with six bullets in a six shooter .

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 18 днів тому

      No problem with the piston, it was mainly just leaking oil.

    • @reinerressel975
      @reinerressel975 18 днів тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 sorry you talked about bad 2 Stroke engines etc. hole in the piston and so on .

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 18 днів тому

      @@reinerressel975 Ohhhh, yeah sorry! I'm at high elevation, so we are definitely leaning these things up to get every bit of power out of them. I just bought a new Factory R, and it doesn't even make the power of a regular Moster at sea level at my elevation (4700 feet). So we are always playing with the carburation to get a golden brown plug.

  • @jimmychafins
    @jimmychafins 24 дні тому

    Man that’s a lot of carb needles you have flying off…You might wanna stay on the ground…lol

  • @dswoop9477
    @dswoop9477 25 днів тому

    Awesome

  • @Dieselguy1922
    @Dieselguy1922 25 днів тому

    Awesome video I just finished my tandem trike exemption in July. Getting ready to purchase an Eco two from fly products!!!!

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 24 дні тому

      @@Dieselguy1922 thanks!

    • @12vibaba
      @12vibaba 15 днів тому

      advice: don't get the cosmos 300 engine. It is to light for that trike. I have it but regret that I did not get the stronger engine.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 15 днів тому

      @@12vibaba agreed! I’ve had both.

  • @dickfitswell3437
    @dickfitswell3437 25 днів тому

    I fly a Minari 200 with over 80hrs and have not had a single engine out/temp shutdown or anything like what im seeing here. I feel bad for ya man. Ive flown mine in 28 different states and I might have had issues changing weather/temps/altitude so much but luckily found carb adjustment settings for each flights. Do you just have a little bad luck or are Moster/Thor engines kind of that unreliable? Hope you get it sorted out so you can stay up longer. That's what she said

  • @SupernovaSpence
    @SupernovaSpence 25 днів тому

    How do you get so many engine failures? I noticed you had 3 or 4 different motors? Just how? HAHAHA

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 24 дні тому

      @@SupernovaSpence if you fly long enough, it will happen.

    • @SupernovaSpence
      @SupernovaSpence 24 дні тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 70 hours let alone 30 hours just doesn’t seem like long enough 😅

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 24 дні тому

      @@SupernovaSpence true, but the engine decides when. Sad but true.

  • @idahoppgfilms
    @idahoppgfilms 25 днів тому

    Awesome Trent!

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 25 днів тому

      @@idahoppgfilms thanks! It was a long tough road!

  • @thpxs0554
    @thpxs0554 26 днів тому

    That’s why I fly a 4 stroke, Bailey. It’s heavy and not very powerful but it’s an early one but I always get airborne, it starts instantly on the button and runs like a sewing machine and I always get airborne but it can be a bit of a run with a 28 uni .the V-king is up in a few yards even in nil wind. I’ve had 2 failures both on a 2 stroke due to the walbro carburettor diaphragm. Yamaha were able to make 2 stroke bikes that you could thrash the arse off and they ran for thousands of hours, yet the paramotor engines can leave you in the crap at any moment. I won’t fly the 2 stroke polini anymore, it’s a pig to reach over to the starter and although it’s got the power, I found the Bailey once airborne gives me the same experience, a bit more slowly.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 26 днів тому

      Awesome! Thanks for sharing! I haven't seen the Bailey yet.

  • @andremarques7710
    @andremarques7710 27 днів тому

    This exhaust is sportive. The manufacture should to make it as standart noise.

  • @JustMeZero988
    @JustMeZero988 29 днів тому

    First of all, I had a Microlight here in the UK, (probably an Ultralight to you) but these things look really fun (I'm 66 now so would just be a dream now). I luckily never had any problems with mine but it would have been harder to land than yours, but well easier that a small plane. I like the FLIGHT# ??? that you put for each fight which was good. I just found this interesting and something I would have loved to do. At my age, I'll probably get my own wings soon LOL. Nice video. I've subscribed to make your numbers up and I'll backtrack your videos. My videos are very random but do have my microlight on.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 28 днів тому

      @@JustMeZero988 yes! They are a blast. That’s awesome!

  • @gaetanproductions
    @gaetanproductions Місяць тому

    Interesting experiences you have had, thanks for sharing! Totally right, to always fly in view of an engine out ! 👍 No matter how serviced or well tuned or new the paramotor is !

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      Thanks! Yes, as I have learned, always have an out.

  • @TheJapanChannelDcom
    @TheJapanChannelDcom Місяць тому

    I started flying ultralights 40 years ago and then shifted to GA, but ALWAYS assume the engine will quit at any time. Crazy if we don't.

  • @andremarques7710
    @andremarques7710 Місяць тому

    Sensations my friend. Your movie it's great. Hugs from Brazil.

  • @plane1994
    @plane1994 Місяць тому

    What a crap stuff glad youre ok❤

  • @razorsharpbt124
    @razorsharpbt124 Місяць тому

    I have an old push mower I leave out in the elements for 17 years and it starts fist pull and never dies. These paramotor two-strokes suck.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      Perhaps, but asking 3 to 5 horsepower out of a 4-stroke push mower is not exactly the same as asking 27 to 33 horsepower out of an engine that is nearly the same size.

  • @YalvacliDelikurt
    @YalvacliDelikurt Місяць тому

    Nice vid... kinda funny tho

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      It is kind of funny. My base is paragliding, so engine outs and forced landings are not something that concern me all that much.

  • @Daniel-bv8hr
    @Daniel-bv8hr Місяць тому

    Got 60hours on a Moster MY22 and only ever had 1 engine out due to running out of fuel 😅 This video has me scared of the engine hours now…. Why so many engine failures!?!?

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      First two were worn carburetor membranes. Don't use ethanol if you can avoid it. The third was a bad design by EOS. That resistor has since been removed from all of their new engines now, so its no longer a problem. They were using an off-the-shelf harness that had other engine applications. The starter on the Factory R just blew up and damaged the prop. I suspect the damaged high needle was a result of flying debris, but did not reveal itself until a few flights later. The Polini was bad install of the throttle and the lead in the connector was "hammering" the needle and eventually weakened the clip until it fell off. I now have the correct throttle cable end, so there shouldn't be any more issues. Engine outs and forced landings will happen. Just be prepared to "paraglide" and fly in areas where you don't mind landing. My first Moster 185 went 144 hours before I sold it. Just the two engine outs on the first part of the video.

    • @Daniel-bv8hr
      @Daniel-bv8hr 22 дні тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 Thanks mate, really appreciate the insight! I use to only run ethanol free fuel for the first 50hrs when I was in the US, but now I’m forced to use 95unleaded as it’s harder to find ethanol free in South Africa. Ever since switching I’ve had start up issues and have had to fiddle my carburetor. She hasn’t died mid flight but getting her to idle and not choke out when cold starting is becoming a pain. Suppose it’s time to rebuild the carb?

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 22 дні тому

      @@Daniel-bv8hr no problem! Yeah, maybe the membranes are weak.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 20 днів тому

      @@Daniel-bv8hr it wouldn’t hurt bro. Always nice to have fresh membranes.

  • @Chipenvous
    @Chipenvous Місяць тому

    Impressive handling of all the engine outs! But wow, how many paramotors do you have? 🙂

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      Thanks! LOL- I currently have three. Two foot launch and one trike.

  • @dkumpula001
    @dkumpula001 Місяць тому

    Nice concise compilation, thank you. I've had 5 engine outs in 420 flights so far and a half dozen or so limps back the LZ under limited power. I remind newer pilots in my area to expect them at any time.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@dkumpula001 yes! Thanks for sharing. It’s good for others to see how many people have had something like this.

  • @BlackWarriorLures
    @BlackWarriorLures Місяць тому

    How cold is it up there?

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      Sometimes its very cold and other times an inversion makes it warmer.

  • @EliassonAnders
    @EliassonAnders Місяць тому

    Nice setups you have. My experience is that the Polini 202 pushes about 10kg more in a thrust bench. So it will be interesting to hear your experience in an actual flight comparison. Thx for sharing.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      You bet! I actually did a follow-up video and the Polini did outperform the Factory R. Awesome motor!

  • @EliassonAnders
    @EliassonAnders Місяць тому

    Thx for sharing, being honest and showing us different scenarios of failures. All brands are having issues. Post and preflight checks makes your odds better, but not immune. This kind of videos reminds us of the importance of always having a backup plan of a forced landing. Flying AC Nitro200 and about 400 flights with that engine, 2 forced landings. One could have been prevented, I saw it coming, high temps. Lessons learned, any warnings or sign of something not right, land safely asap. Fly safe and keep posting this kind of material 🙏👏.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      Thanks I appreciate it! They definitely all have their own issues. Sounds like the Nitro has been great motor!

  • @mjakersusmc
    @mjakersusmc Місяць тому

    Do you need a pilot’s license for that?

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      No because it falls under the ultralight category of aircraft under FAR Part 103. However, I have only flown with people that have had actual training. I do know there are some people that are self taught, but I personally don't know anyone that hasn't had formal training.

  • @geoffmcnew5863
    @geoffmcnew5863 Місяць тому

    Oh, this is totally bat shit crazy...and they seem to have carb problems, too!

  • @lukebelvin4900
    @lukebelvin4900 Місяць тому

    Bro forgot about Made In China when putting on his flying suit

  • @lukebelvin4900
    @lukebelvin4900 Місяць тому

    Bro's had more engine failures than Chuck Yeager

  • @HTN3
    @HTN3 Місяць тому

    How can there be a god?

  • @FanOfTheSky
    @FanOfTheSky Місяць тому

    Great video showing what to be prepared for. Had one my self already.. 🙄 Maybe see you again at Little Camas, end of this month.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@FanOfTheSky thanks and yes! I plan to be there!

  • @1953Greyfox
    @1953Greyfox Місяць тому

    Great Video, however. I don't think I want to get involved in Parmotor flying if the engines fail that often.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      I learned to Paraglide first. At the conclusion of my paragliding training I transitioned to the Paramotor with the intent of the training to learn both. To me an engine out is just a paraglider, but I understand this sport is not for everyone. You will need to do your own soul searching to decide if this sport is worth it for you or not. One thing I will say... You're either all in and commit to this sport and fly often, or don't do it! Safe travels!

    • @waffle_nom
      @waffle_nom Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 I fly fixed-wing and it was incredible to see how well you handled these situations; apparently learning your craft as a glider first helps when it suddenly becomes one! Probably didn't feel strange to you at the time but seeing you on the phone while within 500ft of a forced landing was absolutely mind-blowing from my perspective!

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@waffle_nom thanks! lol - yeah here’s my logic. I’m not on the radio, so I can’t talk to anyone for help. I have cell service off the ground up several thousand feet. In fact almost always. But on the ground I may have no service. Being on the phone, if you have time, is good because I can say exactly where I’m at, organize help, and the person on the phone will actually know if I’m hurt. There’s actually someone on the phone with me on most of those if I had time. The Polini forced landing I was talking to my dad’s answering machine and just stayed on the recording until I landed.

  • @matthewholmes8638
    @matthewholmes8638 Місяць тому

    I feel like a lot of people in the sport need to do better maintenece and preflight/postflights of their equipment. The manual has all the maintainece schedules in it with what needs to be chaged at how many hours. Its a pain but these are aircraft and I rather spend the extra time and money and give myself better odds. 120hrs on my 185 so far with no issues other needing to adjust the low speed screw.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@matthewholmes8638 I totally agree! My first two engine outs were from a lack of maintenance. The manual says to rebuild the carburetor at 100 hours, but it should be much sooner if you run ethanol in your gas. I believe it weakened the diagrams in the carburetor. I now run 100LL. The other was attributed to the manufacturer. The forced landings were unforeseeable.

    • @dconroy08
      @dconroy08 Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 How long have you been running 100LL? Have you seen any issue with plug fouling or any other issues from the Lead?

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@dconroy08 No, the 100LL has been awesome! I've been running it for about three years.

    • @Kent-pb2jl
      @Kent-pb2jl Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 I went 6 years on 100LL on a Polini with no carb rebuild. Only issue is the coil died, twice and the decomp port got clogged.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@Kent-pb2jl That's awesome! I love the appeal of the float bowl carburetor! Put good fuel in it, fly it often, and a carb rebuild is not likely soon.

  • @glen3257
    @glen3257 Місяць тому

    good evening. Thank you for this video. I subscribed and liked. I have been researching getting into ppg for years now to celibate life after beating cancer and my love for flying, This reaffirms day one of my research regarding risk vs reward and always have a landing zone in case of motor failure. I have only watched this video on your Chanel, But notice it includes many brands and motors. I was wondering about your experience and history fling ppg,. I would truly appreciate communicating with you through email for guidance and suggestions. Thank you.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@glen3257 no problem Glen! Congratulations on your fight to beat cancer! You’re welcome to email me at trentw@idahowatersports.com

    • @dickfitswell3437
      @dickfitswell3437 25 днів тому

      Hey congrats Glen. Hopefully you don't have to go thru beating it again. I hope you reward yourself and take the hobby up. I went to training for 13 days, learned kiting, maps, etc then on day 14 some of us were cleared to take our first flight. I remember getting the wing up on a reverse launch at the beach. 7-9mph. I was kinda scared and then remembered what my instructors told me and turned and ran and all the sudden it was like I was a Bald Eagle rising and rising over the Gulf of Mexico and didn't want to come down. I hope you get to experience that. It's one of the most freeing things I've done, especially with a stressful job, I was able to finally do something alone and relax once airborne and cruising. Good luck to you Glen and I hope you get to do this. Oh, and I wouldn't watch any Tucker Gott videos. He is a fame chaser. Dude makes videos landing at McDonald's which is dangerous because of the car traffic taking their eyes off the road. He did one where he called an ice cream parlor and asked if he can order and come land and again dangerous for the civilians driving and getting distracted. He doesn't care about the sport and all of my instructors told us DO NOT FLY LIKE TUCKER GOTT. Been to some fly ins and I hear the same thing from dozens of others. I unsubscribed from him. He is careless and a cloutchaser. Sorry for that rant.

  • @ChrisJewell7333
    @ChrisJewell7333 Місяць тому

    My favorite prop is helix so when I saw the chip out of the helix, I was saddened, helix is a great prop very durable, nice height on all of your engine out’s. I’ve only flown three different PARAMOTOR set ups. Haven’t tried a trike yet, I’m curious what’s your thoughts? I know a trailer for the trike is a little more effort. Would you buy it again? I like the idea of not having to run out a landing or a takeoff the trike would eliminate that just sounds like a lot of hassle to get it trailer out, set up and then back to the shop.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisJewell7333 if it has been an eprop it would have exploded lol. I definitely fly low a lot, but generally places I can land immediately. I was pretty close to terrain on the Polini, but the mountains had some steep slope, so no worries. I’ve been incredibly lucky so far. I sincerely enjoy the trike. It’s awesome on zero wind days! Launches are tougher than foot launch, but landings are super smooth and very easy! I primarily started flying trikes to become a tandem introductory instructor. The trailer is no problem. I set it up for easy in and out.

    • @ChrisJewell7333
      @ChrisJewell7333 Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 you make a few good points on the trike, there’s been many flights I’ve not chanced because of no wind days.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisJewell7333 It definitely makes life easier on those days! Good luck!

  • @graydonmyhre7278
    @graydonmyhre7278 Місяць тому

    Great video, thank you

  • @NathanMellor
    @NathanMellor Місяць тому

    Was the wing damaged in the first one? Gotta hate that sagebrush.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@NathanMellor lol- no, but it took me a long time to carefully pluck it out. It was dark when I was hiking out. I landed close to the freeway, but it was a lava flow so I had to stay on the dirt road to hike out - lol

  • @AndrewGlobus
    @AndrewGlobus Місяць тому

    Great honest video Trent, thanks! The introduction of EFI in paramotors is somehow very slow, although it has long been available on scooters, motorcycles, generators, etc. And paramotors are very loud, so no innovation is powerless against the noise.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@AndrewGlobus I agree! Thanks!

    • @Ellwoodsss1
      @Ellwoodsss1 Місяць тому

      @andrewglobus main reason is production volume. Total paramotor engine sales globally in 2023 across all manufacturers is estimated at less than 3,000 units. It’s tough to justify the initial investment to sell so very few units. For example Vittorazi had planned on selling only 150 MosterEFI units globally for 2024. Having seen first hand the personnel and facilities/equipment Vittorazi has invested in the MosterEFI project over the last 5 years I would be willing to bet they are well into the millions of dollars. This is why EFI is only now coming into the paramotor world. It’s like anything in paramotors, development is very sluggish because it is such a niche market, a manufacturer really has to be careful about investing time and capital in something that quite literally may only sell less than 100 units worldwide

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@Ellwoodsss1 agreed!

    • @AndrewGlobus
      @AndrewGlobus Місяць тому

      @@Ellwoodsss1 I completely agree with you, the market is small and niche for cap manufacturers. So fuel consumption is high, reliability is low, noise is prohibitively high. Pilots are looking for places to fly away from people, so as not to cause inconvenience. Several enthusiast manufacturers have gone the route of converting 4-stroke engines from scooters world. In small scale production the factors you speak of are not so pronounced. It is also possible to borrow parts and technology from the world of two-wheeled racing. Of course, there is also the quiet and comfortable OpenPPG SP-140 for flying up to 30 miles.

    • @Ellwoodsss1
      @Ellwoodsss1 Місяць тому

      @@AndrewGlobus I think many people also overlook the fact that roughly 70% of paramotor pilots are teaching themselves how to be mechanics and are turning wrenches for the first time in their lives. I’ve been flying going on 8 years now with well over a thousand hours on many many different motors and not counting running out of gas 500 feet from where I parked by truck I have yet to have an actual engine out(totally jinxing myself now) and I know a few people that have a similar experience but for most paramotor pilots this is not the norm. Pretty much the only way to make any progress in the market is to borrow from other markets, our current popular 2 strokes are scooter top ends with chainsaw carbs. The forays into 4 strokes haven’t really caught on as of yet but I have hopes for the Quattro. This is terrible for my job security but in realitythe sport needs a legit electric option with a good quality/well thought out chassis with good geometry and real world range of at LEAST an hour. This would absolutely change the sport and make it so much more inviting to new people coming in. I’m sorry to say it but the sp140 ain’t it. Not by a long shot. Maybe Sur Ron will read this;)

  • @degklump1999
    @degklump1999 Місяць тому

    Vittorazi has never stated the correct gear reduction so far, i'm guessing you have 2.95

  • @mike413
    @mike413 Місяць тому

    Hi Trent, when you are going to lean it. You'll go from 128 to 126, right? Is it only the main jet you're gonna change? Any other settings to be done as well? Like needle to be set higher/lower etc?

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      Correct. I did not change anything else. I would consult with EOS regarding your elevation and density altitude.

    • @mike413
      @mike413 Місяць тому

      ​Flying mainly at sea level up to 1500ft. Main jet in use ( standard) is 130. But never reached 8100rpm just being at 7600max and consumption is about 3,3L/h on Dudek Hadron 3 22. My weight might be similar to yours.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@mike413 I would gradually step it down. Fly a 128 and check your plug after a couple of flights. Then see if you need to drop again. Are you flying a 140cm prop? If yes, I'm not sure they get to 8100rpm. 7650 is the best I ever saw and typically 7300 max at my elevation.

    • @mike413
      @mike413 Місяць тому

      ​Flying a 130 Prop developed especially for Quattro to reach 8100-8200. Last time when I was checking Plug it was brown with direction to dark brown. My assumption was it can go leaner.

  • @ChrisJewell7333
    @ChrisJewell7333 Місяць тому

    Just finished watching your EOS Quattro vs 185 moster R comparison video, what are the pluses or minis with polini Thor 202 vs EOS Quattro, want to make sure I’m spending the money for the top 4 stroke, thought about electric for the lack of vibration, the linear power with no engine noise. Thanks Trent

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisJewell7333 excellent! Of the three engines I like the Polini Thor 202 the best so far. It’s almost as fuel efficient as the Quattro, a little lighter than the Quattro and the most powerful of the three. Please understand I only have about 8 hours on the Polini. I flew the Quattro for around 35-40 hours, I believe, before I sold it. The Quattro was absolutely the most pleasing to fly and the most linear. I will likely get another after they work out the bugs.

    • @ChrisJewell7333
      @ChrisJewell7333 Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 thanks Trent, Ive only flown the moster 185 i have 3 motors 2 complete setups and one as backup so nothing to compare with, its been a long year trying to figure out what direction to lean to 4 stroke or electric so your info and video’s are helping. Thanks

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisJewell7333 You bet! The electric is super cool, but the flight time for a big guy like me in the mountains is only approximately 20 minutes. The electric is also heavy and the same weight all the time. I prefer to take off heavy, burn fuel and land light. I'd also prefer a stout titanium frame on the electric, but I think everyone building them is only using aluminum.

  • @ChrisJewell7333
    @ChrisJewell7333 Місяць тому

    Looking to talk with a dealer for the EOS Quattro Trent, haven’t found a dealer in USA any recommendations ? Nice comparison video whats the price over $ 10,000 ? Thanks Trent

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisJewell7333 Boise Paramotors is the only importer, I believe, in the U.S. I think the machine is now around 9 or 10k. It’s had a couple of price increases and I had the Gen 1 of the current motor. I think they are now on Gen 3 and the price has definitely gone up.

    • @ChrisJewell7333
      @ChrisJewell7333 Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 Gen 3 how exciting ! I’ll have to look up the Gen 3 see whats new and the pricing I’ll get ahold of Boise paramotors. Side note: as a child leaved in Idaho and would go to winter festivals ice sculpture contests, riding snowmobiles in Caldwell Idaho do they still have the winter festivals?

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@ChrisJewell7333 I'm on the other side of the state in Pocatello, so I'm not sure. We have events like that here. Good luck!

  • @johnstratton4519
    @johnstratton4519 Місяць тому

    Would be cool to see this test between the factory R and the Quattro.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@johnstratton4519 I ended up selling the Quattro, but it climbed around 380 feet per minute. Not too far behind the Factory R.

  • @Kent-pb2jl
    @Kent-pb2jl Місяць тому

    I'm surprised the Polini didn't have a bigger gap in climb rate. Even with the Vito being lighter and a little more RPM it can't swing as steep of pitch as the Polini. I was on the fence between the 202 and Vito after running my Polini 130 Thor Evo for several years but went with the Vito because the weight and being a little less complex. I was a bit bitter with Polini and their absolute garbage pull starts and lack of parts support. It did however run great, vibrated less and honestly feels like it make nearly as much power as the Vito even being lower displacement.

  • @johng9889
    @johng9889 Місяць тому

    What is a decent price for a pair of these used? Thanks

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      Legacy Jubilees typically sell for 6-10K

    • @johng9889
      @johng9889 Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 thank you. Are they not a good as the new ones for $35k/pair?

    • @johng9889
      @johng9889 Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 Hi Trent. Thanks for your reply. I can't find much of anything online about them. Are they the same as the ones now selling for 35k/pair? Same drivers, crossover, cab design?

  • @apsestasis
    @apsestasis Місяць тому

    so it boils down to a choice between cracking exhausts and sticky throttle VS cracking crank case :D

  • @Nicmics
    @Nicmics Місяць тому

    The question is: How many hours will the Polini perform well? It´s a real unreliable engine if you are not a mechanic, and it´s better to always have some spare cylinders in stock. These 2 stroke engines are simply not designed for changing altitude or atmospheric conditions. Carburetor settings are always only a compromise as long as you can´t adjust the mixture to the altitude by EGT. Polini only can sell these engines in significant numbers because there is no alternative on the market.

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@Nicmics we will soon find out how it does.

    • @Nicmics
      @Nicmics Місяць тому

      @@trentwhitney8346 Let us know!

    • @trentwhitney8346
      @trentwhitney8346 Місяць тому

      @@Nicmics no problem! I’ll review it as I go.

    • @Kent-pb2jl
      @Kent-pb2jl Місяць тому

      Polini claims service intervals that are several times longer than the Vitos, that has some value, if true. I know the early 202 had some carb/compression issues but it sounds like those got sorted out fairly quick. Not terrible for a new liquid cooled engine.

  • @EliassonAnders
    @EliassonAnders Місяць тому

    😊 Thx for sharing, This kind of honest reviews really helps me in choosing the next setup, great video 👍