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Did your Bronsons come with washers? You only really need one washer either side of the wheel and they should look identical anyway.

Thanks mate 👊🏼

For a first visit and still had in my mind that it felt slippery my first time a few years ago I wasn’t going to push it , I just wanted to get comfortable with what I already knew. I started doing the steps a couple of sessions later. I know what you mean about tight transitions, even this one looks quite tame but it’s actually very tight and the shallow end is only about 3 and half feet deep but goes pretty much to vert so even dropping in is quite a whip.

Thanks 👍🏻

Unfortunately it seems like a lot of wheels don’t have particularly accurate bearing seats so they are sometimes a little bit too shallow or deep so the spacers aren’t an exact fit, it’s ok to loosen them off a tiny bit to get them spinning right but better if your wheels and spacers are well matched to allow you to tighten them properly.

@NeilHesterSkateboarding ye might see if I can find slightly longer spacers.i have some zealous built ins but the don't spin for ages like my others. Thanks for the reply 👍

@NeilHesterSkateboarding I've seen alot of videos where people leave the wheel with quite a bit of play up and down a good 3 or 4mm but surely that amout of travel isn't good... my wheels spin amazing like that but can't handle the noise

@MrGough22 yeah your bearings won’t last as long if that are smashing around with a lot of play so you want to minimise the movement but if they are are so tight they and making the wheel not spin that will put unnecessary load in the bearing too. You can try installing another washer between the spacer and a bearing to effectively increase the width of the spacer enough to take up the difference if you think it’s a big gap. It’s ok to have a tiny tiny bit of play because there will be some movement in the bearing assembly itself but you don’t want the wheel sloppy on the axle.

I use Santa Cruz cellblocks they are nice and hard like pig rails so slide really well but are deeper so you can space them further apart on a deck with deeper concave without bottoming out the middle of the deck. They are definitely my favourite so far. The Powell ones are too soft for my liking too asides from the poor production quality so don’t slide as well.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding awesome, I'll check them out.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding my first ever set of rails were Santa Cruz cell blocks I think, late 80s.

Neil, are they the Santa Cruz Slime Line rails? Can't find cell block ones.

@@mistersootyyeah they are basically the same thing 👍🏻

Thanks 👍🏻 go get em ! 👊🏼

@@tahseen_al-qureshi thanks 🙏🏻 👊🏼

Not anymore, the surface has been skimmed its very grippy.

@NeilHesterSkateboarding I'll check it out in the Autumn then or sooner if it doesn't stop raining

Thanks, Drop in's on vert are my weakenss. I'm afraid of heights and although I've been dropping in on vert for about 4 years it never gets any easier. I also find this ramp especially difficult for speed as its quite a tight transition and "small" / cramped feeling for a vert ramp (11ft) I do feel more confortable with speed on slightly bigger ramps (have a look at some of my shorts videos) but unfortunatley, i just dont skate vert enough to get the kind of exposure and improvements that i get from the other terrians i ride more often.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding Yeah completely understand, I'm the same. One of my personal skating achievements is dropping into the Harrow pool (f#@ked up transition). If it wasn't for the great British weather, I'd say forget the ramp and stick to the pool. You seem more comfortable with those dimensions and of course that tile and coping!

Ha! well if I didn’t start skating vert I wouldn’t be anywhere near as good as I am on anything else. Not saying I’m good but I’d be a whole lot worse.

So the same as mine then, I’m finding them good on skatelite and fast but a little too quiet which feels weird 😂 I was hoping they would be more like 99 spitfires but they feel softer. On concrete they feel very similar to the spitfires and sound ok too.

Cool, glad to hear you found it useful 😉👍🏻

A rare dabble in the dark side 😜 but the only street I will skate is a curb and it’s been over 2 years since the last time but I was actually there skating the mini ramp bowl and just had a go on the curb before I left. Haven’t tried the LM’s yet but I can’t see me getting rid of them in a hurry 😆

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding I’ve got the 57mm LM ones. I think they are about 10 years old and they still run lovely.

@@marcelboogaard3809 Cool, ive got some older ones too in 56mm but they were kinda too small for my liking but I kept them just because they were cool looking.

I think the acceleration part can be ignored for skateboarding since any difference wheel size could affect will be very easily negated by just puting a bit more effort in to your push or pump, bigger wheels will also be better on rough srufaces and then all you need to consider is the hardness.

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I think with all wheels you kinda have to give them a good few runs in concrete to take the slick off the surface and rough them up a bit, I think the formula 4’s get better the more you run them in. On wood they are verging on “slippery” but the extra width of the full conicals counter that , bones SPF are way more slippery on wood and I think that’s partly due to their thin contact patch. These bones X99’s are feeling somewhere in between but very close to the F4’s I’ve never tried classics but their width made me think they wouldnt be quite as grippy as the full conicals but I didn’t really think any further than than enough to want to try them.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding the Classics came in a 60mm that was full conical, same shape as the ones you use. All the other sizes were a skinnier shape but the 60s were perfect. Then they bought out the "OG Classics" with more full conical shapes so I got some 58s just because the purple went better with my deck. I'm sure you'd love them but they all seem to be F44 now, hard to find the Classic Formula, and as I say it doesn't last as well. Those Lance Mountain ones look rad.

@mistersooty ah ok all the classics I’ve seen were narrower, it’s pretty hard to find 60mm of anything here all the Skateshops seem to only go as big as 58mm but I didn’t want to try the classic formula either and wanted to stick to formula 4 which these LM’s are so I think I’m set.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding yeah the classics are way too confusing now anyway and you never really know which ones you're going to end up with when ordering online. I think I'm going to give my F44 Full Conicals another try. They seem to work for you.

@@mistersooty yeah formula 4 are pretty hard to beat I always recommend them to anyone asking what wheels they should get for a good all surface choice.

I haven’t, they don’t seem to be sold here but maybe I’ll try them one day. I hope they aren’t as over hyped as Rockin Ron’s rockets , Bones Swiss are way better than them.

I haven’t seen those but I wouldn’t want them any wider than these ones.

It’s called being a skateboarder

Sounds very street oriented to me.

Thanks 👍🏻 I tried the 56’s thinking it wouldn’t be much different but it really messed up my lock ins on grinds and lip tricks so I went straight back to the 58’s. My friend has the 97’s and they are so quiet it freaks me out 🤣 same story for Powell dragons. I’m sure a lot of it psychological but I have to be able to hear the wheels or it really throws me off.

You definitely get more leverage on a wider truck which is a bit too much for me, I did ride a setup with 169’s as a bowl board for a while but it was just a bit too big heavy and loose for my liking. 149’s are my sweet spot for years now. I can’t go smaller than 58mm I ran some 56mm spitfires and it totally messed up my lock ins and lip tricks 🤣

👍🏻 I have some 84b but they don’t grip as well as the spitfires for me on the surfaces I ride I’m finding these x99’s much better for that. I do find bones Swiss bearings noticeably better than cheap ones reds/bronson g2/g3 etc so I stick with them these days and they last forever so I doubt I’ll need to replace them in years if ever.

Watch my latest video for an example of non oiled RAWs after 2 months of skating.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding ok

I tried at all different speeds and could only notice it when watching it back on camera not with the naked eye.

Yeah I think they have nailed the use case in that aspect 👍🏻

I get what you’re saying but it’s almost impossible to be so scientific because we all have different preferences and needs depending on our ability, the terrain we skate, the speed etc. so you usually do have to go in your own journey of discovery. People with a decent amount of ability and experience with different wheels and hardness can give their opinions and get you in the ballpark area if they skate the same surfaces and tricks that you are aiming for. But in general small or soft wheels are slow and bigger harder wheels are faster, there are the nuances of small wheels being more beneficial for street skating and bigger wheels for transition. Some people settle for something in between.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding yes, preference is what really matters in the end since it’s all fun and games anyway, but I would suggest that SPEED is an objective factor, and what a certain duro/diameter/contact patch can offer can let one decided if we need to sacrifice our board lightness, budget, or more by choosing a wheel over another. Just my thought!

@@burger1113 “speed” is definitely questionable and the majority of your speed will come from good riding technique, I felt like experimenting and it seems to be good so far, last night I skated a very fast skatelite vert ramp and I didn’t need to put much effort on to stay up at the coping.

if you ride on rough streets and parks get some 93a dragons. i have been skating since 85 and i have been a wheel guy the whole time. i bought a set of spitfires when they were a new company ok. i bought a set of 58mm dragons and it was like driving a Cadillac for the first time. they are all that. they ruined wheel shopping for me. im hooked on them

Postage was kinda expensive I can’t remember exactly how much but there was no extra customs charge. I think it has to be over £100 to get customs charges but it might be more than that even.

Yeah the ones I have are still in perfect shape after about 5 years of riding a few times a week. I don’t do slides of skate street so I’m sure if you did you could probably wear them out faster but for me riding bowls and ramps they last very well !

I’ve ridden them on concrete and they are fast and grippy just like my usual spitfires and on a skatelite vert ramp and they are just the same but a little quieter. Will try on some regular wooden ramps tomorrow. So far I’m very happy with them and they are a worthy choice against 99 spitfires .

Hey Neil. I ride spitfire 56, 99a. Formula 4 but v cut/ narrow patch. They work great on woodramps. Somehow the narrowness grips better on wood and it's lightweight, which is also cool for boardcontrol. The rounded shape is cool to get in'n out of coping liptricks. I had bones spf 60 mm 84b. Loved them in park. But once i had a fakie wheelbite and it Cost me a wristbreak. So I went down from that big size. But 60 mm spf is a lot of fun in bowls and superfast ! But yeah def 84 spf too slippery on vert ramps. Thanks for the video.

⁠@@martinschiller3298cheers 👍🏻 I actually have some 56mm spitfires too but I found them too small for me and wasn’t locking in a reliably as I do with the 58mm ones but I didn’t have any grip issues on wood either.

Awesome I think I’m going to like them too 👍🏻

i have some oj2s from the '80s that i still ride and quite like. 60mm x 47mm 97a, though prob worn to 57ish. not sure what you'd call the shape, i believe they are center-set, with a deep conical cut outer edge and a rounded inner lip. it's just what i picture a standard early-mid '80s wheel shape, but i was real young then. i'm not sure if they were intended to be reversed, if you might prefer the rounded edge to the outside. i never rode them like that and don't think i would unless they were coned. they belonged to an older cousin, he had them on a kevin staab either pirate or mad scientist, with red/white trackers.

@@diplenski well to be honest almost everything was made/built much better in the past. Current OJ quality is sad. Flat spots right outta the box. My cousin Ben Degros does honest reviews and he did the same with a few power slides.

Most 78A wheels will chunk of they’re smaller than 60mm. I have 60mm Super Juice’s and 66mm Slimeballs. The Slimeballs don’t chunk.

@@memorysometimers3067 i watch his channel. i only have 1 set of modern ojs. the shape and ride are fine, but they tend to chunk out similar to my experience with bones stf. i don't really do a lot of powerslides so never really had much of an issue with flatspots

@@75YBA SlimeBallz are ok. I actually have a set of 66mm too and they’re on my mini cruiser 30” board with Indy 129 so much fun. My favourite cruiser wheel is the Thunder Juice 75mm. I haven’t chunked my current set at all and they’re 5 years old now.

That was my thought as well….what about the Bones V6 shape?

The thing about full conicals is they get wider the bigger they get I think they have the measurements on their website somewhere, I think the tablets and lock ins are narrower. Width is often a good trade off for grip too so a wider wheel with more contact will grip better and you can go up a hardness level and have the same grip as a narrower softer wheel. Sounds like you prefer your wheels on the softer and smaller side though.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding i have some bones v2 shape? whatever their tablet shape is. they ride and skate well enough i guess but they remind me of shopping cart wheels. i get completes from secondhand markets sometimes, so i get decent stuff at super low prices but i end up with a lot of stuff that i probably wouldn't have chosen myself. it's a good way to try new things without risking much expense on a possible disappointment

Yeah they have square sides which makes for a more solid lock in on coping etc which I much prefer over more radiused rounded sides which are more suited to street skating.

Thanks mate 👊🏼

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Yeah it’s a really good watch huh ! 👊🏼

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Cool 👍🏻 I’m looking forward to the next one !

👊🏼 Hope you enjoy it !

👍🏻 Enjoy 😉 👊🏼

Cool, enjoy! 👊🏼

Cool, Enjoy!

Thanks Mate , Yeah I did, but sacked of that idea pretty quickly, I'm just going with the flow and doing what I can as time allows. I've been away for a month and am not willing to sacrifice skate time in favor for editing time so it is what it is, but it'll get there and then exist forever after that.

@@NeilHesterSkateboarding I like your philosophy.

@@marcelboogaard3809 😜👊

Thank you 😉👊

Thanks but I can't do that on this coping its waxed to hell ! you have to go really careful.