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Pakistan
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"What do they know of cricket, who only cricket know?"
Ahmer Naqvi and Osman Samiuddin look at cricket from beyond the runs and wickets to the larger sociocultural context of the sport.
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Ahmer Naqvi and Osman Samiuddin look at cricket from beyond the runs and wickets to the larger sociocultural context of the sport.
Audio links: battafast.buzzsprout.com/share
Support our work: www.patreon.com/battafast/
PAK v SA Test squad, Sadness of Shaheen, Champions Trophy drama - Episode 71 - Batta Fast Manjan
Pakistan's men's squad for the tour to South Africa featured the omission of Shaheen Afridi, a development that was more sad than shocking. We debate the rest of the squad, and then get into the absolute sh*tshow that has been the Champions Trophy hosting crisis.
00:00 Reflections on Pakistan's Test Squad
05:52 The Future of Shaheen Afridi's Career
09:13 Do Tests still offer the same legacy as white-ball?
14:50 Why Pakistan is a graveyard for bowlers
17:51 Sajid Khan's Exclusion and Its Implications
20:55 Hope for Mohammed Abbas's Return
31:26 More complaints about how we've ruined our pacers
39:39 The Hybrid Model Controversy
50:28 BCCI's Actual Stance on Security Concerns
56:38 The Ineffectiveness of ICC Leadership
00:00 Reflections on Pakistan's Test Squad
05:52 The Future of Shaheen Afridi's Career
09:13 Do Tests still offer the same legacy as white-ball?
14:50 Why Pakistan is a graveyard for bowlers
17:51 Sajid Khan's Exclusion and Its Implications
20:55 Hope for Mohammed Abbas's Return
31:26 More complaints about how we've ruined our pacers
39:39 The Hybrid Model Controversy
50:28 BCCI's Actual Stance on Security Concerns
56:38 The Ineffectiveness of ICC Leadership
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Taylor and IK - Batta Fast Clips
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From the 3rd audience Q&As episode, an SEO bumper of a question from Patreon Mohammad Ahmed Hassan "Here is a fun question. Hopefully you guys play along. Imran Khan of lets say 1987 exists today. Same player and background. Nothing is diffirent about the man. He begins to date Taylor Swift. Does that in any shape or form help cricket break into America. What are pop culture implications of thi...
The Best Test Player from Every Decade Since the 50's - Batta Fast Clips
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From the 3rd audience Q&As episode, a fascinating, super fun question from Patreon Talha Hayat: "Who would you pick as Pakistan’s best Test cricketer from each decade, starting from the 50s?"
Audience Q&As 3 - The best player in each decade, what will happen to the CT, and more! Episode 70
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00:00 Introduction to the Q&A Session 01:09 Who was the best Test player in every decade from the '50s onwards? 16:30 What will happen with the PCB, ICC and the BCCI in the Champions Trophy? 34:06 Which bowlers should make the squad for the SA tour? 37:59 What are the pop-culture implications of 1987-era Imran Khan being present today and dating Taylor Swift? 47:40 Did the recent series wins hi...
Batta Fast Clips - Saim vs Saeed
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Those gorgeous flicks - that wispy frame - that 021 phone-number Accursed are those who can't enjoy the Saeed and Saim comparisons...
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Batta Fast's longtime nominee for the captaincy is now in-charge. How well did Rizwan lead in this series?
Batta Fast Clips - BCCI vs PCB and the Champions' Trophy
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With the BCCI continuing to resist Pakistan's hosting of the Champs Trophy, things might be coming to a head with the PCB refusing a hybrid model. Will this face-off lead to wider changes in the game?
Batta Fast Clips - Comparing 2002's pacers with 2024's
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After Pakistan repeated a pacer-led 2-1 win in Australia, everyone was reminded of the 2-1 win with Wasim Waqar and Shaiby 22 years ago. But how fair is that comparison?
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As we celebrate the bowlers' performances in Australia, here is a reminder of why tape-ball cricket actually creates world-class players.
22 Saal Baad Pakistan beat Australia - Episode 69 - Pak vs Oz ODI Review
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00:00 CONGRATES TO PACE LOVERS 05:48 Seeing Pakistan cricket as a work of art rather than sport 08:54 Haris Rauf: Pace is Pace Yaar 11:59 The Game Changing Impact of Tape Ball Cricket 21:20 Pakistan’s pacers rediscovering their groove 22:58 Demythologising the Mighty 90s 25:10 Saim Ayub and the Saeed Anwar comparisons 37:42 Rizwan's Captaincy: A New Perspective 47:39 Political Ramifications of ...
Aqib's 11 - Episode 68 - Sajid & Noman help Aqib and Aleem Dar script epic heist
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Recently paroled con artist Aqib Javed is traveling around the country gathering people for his next big scheme: to rob three Tests owned by the ever ruthless English cricket team. With the aid of a right hand man named Aleem Dar, an umpire out of retirement, a Shani, a boundary dealer, a bald offie, a smooth leftie, an explosives expert, two failing openers, and a bitter casino mogul, they mak...
Pakistan vs England 3rd Men's Test Preview - Episode 68
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Iss haftay hum ne episode mei title baad mei likha hai. 00:00 Introduction and Match Preview 02:55 Pindi pitch and the toss 06:01 Gillespie ka GOAT quote 14:58 Plot twist - the pitch kept lower than it turned 17:52 Celebrating Sajid & Noman 23:05 The challenges of captaining a 1 3 spin attack 31:34 In praise of Jamie Smith 40:00 Ranking both team's chances 52:50 Plans for SA & WI series and rev...
Episode 67 - 1348 Days Later - Pakistan vs England 2nd Test
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Almost 4 years since their last test win at home, Pakistan beat England and give us a long overdue sugar rush. 00:00 1348 dino ke baad 03:07 Reflections on Pakistan's Win 05:56 The Role of Spinners in Pakistan's Victory 09:14 Sajid, Noman, Kamran, Salman & Their Contributions 12:16 Analyzing Batting Performance 18:07 Euphoria vs. Reality in Pakistan Cricket 21:02 Critique of Management and Sele...
Episode 66 - Patreon Q&As - Babar's origins, YK's rituals, Misbah v India, IK's fame and more
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00:00 Quick thoughts on the latest debacle 05:04 Pakistani Fitness Levels and Performance Discrepancies 10:11 Can you change the culture? 14:51 Patreon shoutouts and Questions 17:15 Famous Sledges and Weird Superstitions 26:46 Why do Pak ex-cricketers slag off everyone? 39:15 Under the table payments in franchise leagues 40:42 The Impact of Salary Caps in Franchise Leagues 41:37 Did IK miss out...
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Episode 60 - Pakistan vs Bangladesh - The Latest Worst Ever Loss
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Waqar is very down to earth
What are you guys talking about guys ? Legal implications-- go ahead... take this to court .. Do you have new zealand focused terrorists?? England focused terrorists ?? Sri lanka focused terrorists?? Australia focused terrorists?? I can name 4 terror networks in punjab.. pakistan..
Comments mein Ahmad Shehzado ko dekh raha hun ap logo ko bura bhala bol rahay k victim play na karao players ko , pcb ko na bolo kuch 😅 just making me realize k abhi hum ne kitnay saal lagane hain or kitna agay jana hai tub jakar hum jaagenge 😢
uff bhai is bande ko rest dia hai tu wo literally ghar mei tu na bait jaye muscle strengthening training kare na pace b down hai aur skill b
Yasir Shah
my sources within pcb have informed me that naqvi sb has agreed to handover Hafeez Saeed and Dawood Ibrahim to India in return of promise of triagular series. another big win for Pakistan! if he pull this off i support him jailing khan sb for 20 years.
you guys have a good friend in selection committee that can confirm whether Sajid has been informed of the reason for his non-selection 😉
One difference: I think Shaheen does not want to play tests. Evidence: Only Naseem played Quade Adam trophy. Shaheen wants to preserve himself for the leagues
Only Pakistani/urdu podcast I listen to and appreciate it. I don’t understand one thing. Why do you believe that Pakistan is owed a visit from India? I don’t think BCCI begged Pakistan to come for the World Cup and it was hardly a gesture. Would Pakistan act differently if the shoe was on the other foot? I don’t get it. Hinduon se nafrat bhu karni hai aur phir bhikmungon ki tarhan unko bulana bhi hai. And litigation? I’m sure both of you remember when this was tried over a daft MOU and it just ended costing an insane amount of money in legal fees. I just don’t see on what grounds Pakistan or any single nation is owed anything by another when they don’t tour each other. And this is a very dangerous game they’re playing using Pak/Ind as leverage. Similar to ‘oh we’ve got a nuke, the west won’t let us disintegrate.’ India doesn’t need Pakistan, because a game every year or two still involves taking 37%(?) when they’ve got the IPL. And the world doesn’t need Pakistan either. And this isn’t a bed another country or another board has made for PAK/PCB. Also, is it possible to expel a member nation via a vote? If BCCI wanted to kick Pakistan out of international cricket, what would stop them? They don’t even need a gun. Just a finger gun a threat-demand cocktail would work. Thank you for a reliably very good podcast.
Only Pakistani/urdu podcast I listen to and appreciate it. I don’t understand one thing. Why do you believe that Pakistan is owed a visit from India? Would Pakistan act differently if the shoe was on the other foot? I don’t get it. Hinduon se nafrat bhu karni hai aur phir bhikmungon ki tarhan unko bulana bhi hai. And litigation? I’m sure both of you remember when this was tried over a daft MOU and it just ended costing an insane amount of money in legal fees. I just don’t see on what grounds Pakistan or any single nation is owed anything by another when they don’t tour each other. And this is a very dangerous game they’re playing using Pak/Ind as leverage. Similar to ‘oh we’ve got a nuke, the west won’t let us disintegrate.’ India doesn’t need Pakistan, because a game every year or two still involves taking 37%(?) when they’ve got the IPL. And the world doesn’t need Pakistan either. And this isn’t a bed another country or another board has made for PAK/PCB. Also, is it possible to expel a member nation via a vote? If BCCI wanted to kick Pakistan out of international cricket, what would stop them? They don’t even need a gun. Just a finger gun a threat-demand cocktail would work.
Agar itnay ghlat timing se chapters add karnay hein tou behtar hai na hi karein
Osman is essentially asking whether anyone explained to Sajid why he was dropped. In Pakistan, especially in government organizations (and while the PCB is not technically a government body, it is heavily influenced by the government), individuals are rarely treated with basic humanity. This makes Osman’s point about hurting Sajid's feelings somewhat irrelevant, as decisions are usually dictated from higher authorities without any consideration or explanation. Hence, Pakistan cricket is where it is today. The whole country sometimes lacks basic humanity.
Now that his Test career could possibly be over, I almost feel as if Shaheen should just prepare himself to return to being a gun bowler in T20s and taking wickets in the first overs like he used to at his peak in 2021. Not sure he's fully enthused or conditioned for Test cricket sadly.
BCCI agreeing to hybrid model has ended all these baseless conspiracies theories about them sabotaging pakistan cricket deliberately. This was the best time to alienate pakistan cricket but guess what BCCI had no intentions doing that.
Shoaib Akhter is a great example of mishandling
Itna kuch nai ho ra tha. Magar Mohsin Naqvi busy that
I disagree, Shaheen has to take responsibility as well. He doesn’t play any first class games anymore where you hone your test bowling skills including stamina to maintain your pace. The reason Wasim and Waqar were so successful was because they would play a near entire season of county first class cricket. Nowadays our bowlers just bowl in t20 and maybe odis. The PCB should ask these bowlers to bowl in first class games to show they have the stamina to bowl in test cricket.
yes that's spot on! he hasn't shown desire for longer format
You two literally force me to block my calendar to watch your podcast. Osman and Ahmer are born to talk about cricket
Such a reactionary take a 24 year old gets dropped after a couple of years of bad performances and his career is over now.
Can someone please direct me to where i can purchase the poster behind Ahmer?
RAVINDRA JADEJA EVEN HAS 319 TEST WICKETS! FKING MAJOR FACEPALMMMM
1:02:40 voh banda elect hoke aaya hai anyways saare top 3 se Chairman bante hai and there is a whole Executives Board comprising of all full members - so why is Jay Shah getting the blame when he hasn't even been the chair for 24hrs. bhai directly bol do na India is ruining international cricket, just like India is stopping Pak from being a superpower. bro hates India/BJP/BCCI with a passion and I love the melt down
53:06 I think it's very naive of you to believe Naqvi in saying that India hasn't voiced its concerns over not visiting Pak. You can go back to as back as 2009 - until Pak stops harboring terrorists plotting attack on Indian soil India won't play bilaterals, allow Pak players in IPL and visit Pak.
This is not a bilateral series though and they make a fair point that if that’s the concern then why don’t they just refuse to play Pakistan in any format.
go to indian pages what are u doing here
@momebatti we don't refuse because that's not how the world works - should we also not allow Pak delegates for international conferences then? foreign Ministers should also not interact? all past treaties should be null and void? realistically Pak should be relieved to not host India - the eyeballs and the risk an Indian team carries surely won't be good considering the internal atmosphere in Pak.
@@Sam-bv6od don't discuss India then, I won't come here. :)
@@govuxyz do u think anyone would do any harm to ganday, melay, badbudar pajits
on Chapions trophy you guy watch the "The Print" episode of the chekhar guptas take on ind pak. It takes broader view not just cricket but betterment of both nations. Can u imagine the hit Pak cricket and world cricket would take if there is any incident if india comes to pak. It would takes us back 10 years. is it then worth taking such big risk especially now when pak is not politically safe. We need to slow with ind vs pak in Pak for now.
at 50:04 he said the stupidest thing - agar security issues hai toh match khelte hi kyu hai. bro Pak is definitely not safe for India to travel and if under its disguise BCCI/Indian Govt is driving the point of Pak State sponsored terrorism in India then so be it. don't think that if this goes to international court or anything then BJP will have to admit that the concerns were flagged at last minute to "derail" PCB/Pak - then ISI will also have to answer why Masood Azhar and JeM boys are free and on on state payroll. The only reason India won't allow this to go to these courts is because right now we have the upper hand on these negotiations and we plan on taking full advantage. You folks have normalized Pak Army sponsored groups killimg civilians in Pak - we haven't and the current hardline approach has been very successful.
Well, I really want cricket to end TBH. If somehow cricket seizes to exist, I'd be super happy. It's the world's worst sport I swear.
Good discussion on security … some thoughts … The concerns are multiple … Security at hotel and buses are different since one can usually cordon off the area or more …but security at the stadium where there are thousands of spectators and other sundry vendors or staff is a completely different ball game … the threat perception during such times and multiplied by a factor of 10… again given the current political unrest what if the current opposition uses this even to protest or create unrest … Secondly given the high level of security players freedom will get impacted which can have an impact on their performance … not to mention completely restriction on any movement even in the hotel … leading to lack of privacy where one can’t even have game discussions or any personal chit chat… Thirdly many people from India will try to travel ( if they get a visa) and they also will be open to surveillance either by the police or the establishment ..or other parties that would want to use the visitors as a tool .. given that Pak is a police state this is a high possibility … we in India have spent millions in trying to trace out the 32 Pakistani visitors from the 2006 cricket event in India and these folks have become sleeper cells .. Fourthly there is also a chance that when such events are happening where the whole region is focused there has been a history where in such times are used to reopen “Situations” up in north India… which is happening even now as I am writing this .. To summarize there are too many moving parts to this to be manageable lest something goes wrong … Having said the above the current times are too tense geo politically and with the current political situation in northern Pakistan… maybe we need to wait for better times … and a mutual Hybrid event is better for all to live with … Maybe there will be a day when we can travel back and forth easily and I can enjoy the TakaTak Kebabs and the Karahi chicken which looks yummy …
What other franchise leagues does he watch other than psl? He keeps talking about franchises but which franchise leagues are watched outside of the home countrybin which they are hosted?
Ahmer Naqvis victim mindset is really annoying.
True af
So happy to see a new episode. Big fan but have to respectfully disagree on the importance of test cricket. I am a 80s/90s kid like you guys and grew up worshipping at the altar of Imran, Wasim and Waqar. But the world has changed. The public (including me) does not care about tests (and Odis). If i were Shaheen, I would say fk test cricket, I'll go make way more $$$ in T20 leagues.
I really enjoy Osman's takes and mostly I agree with them, but I think just blaming the board here will be in the wrong. As a player, you have to put your hand up once in a while and say that you need time off. Shaheen got injured in 2022 WC and still hasn't fully recovered. You cannot explain his inclusion at the moment if he is bowling at 130km/h. The treatments for knee/back injuries have evolved and an ACL injury is not considered career-ending anymore. If Shaheen wants to make a comeback , he needs to take stock of what he sees himself as in the future (T20 merchant or genuine Test bowler). He can stay relevant in PSL bowling medium pace but he needs to be around 140-145km/h consistently before he can make a comeback to National team. Not to invoke IK but him and Lillee and to an extent, Bumrah, took prolonged time off after their "career-ending" injuries and their peaks started afterwards.
Jay Shah has done a really good job as a administrator in BCCI. I'm hoping for the best for him as a ICC chairman.
There is also a Nepal premier league ongoing and Sohail Tanvir is playing there.
Shaheen should also play there.
Honestly, I think this is a bad take. Yeah, the PCB has a history of mishandling fast bowlers, past, present, and hopefully not in the future. But completely letting Shaheen off the hook for how he’s been acting since the 2023 World Cup, that’s wild. When he’s been a big reason for some of our losses, especially in the Test series against Bangladesh. That’s why I actually respect the PCB for finally stepping up and making a bold move. It’s about time we focused on building our bench strength and thinking long-term for Pakistan instead of just relying on one player. Mark my words: Mir Hamza is going to do something amazing this series, just like he did in Melbourne which we honestly could’ve won that game if Abdullah Shafique hadn’t dropped those sitters!
Ahmad Shahzad real id se comment karo 😂😂😂
@@Moses_57 can't argue with my point and just went straight to name calling classic babarson
Bhai what is the obsession with Babar playing in the test team? The guy got dropped and replaced by Pakistani batter from the domestic circuit who made a 100 on debut and turned the series around. Obsession with Babar or an obsession with loosing ?
So we won the match because of 100 or spin bowling because of spin wickets?
This channel is basically turning into blame everything on administration while zero responsibility on the players. And that is only for a few players namely Babar , Rizwan , Shaheen Naseem. They should play without any performance because they are alleged "superstars". While Mir hamza Khurram shehzad and Kamran ghulam should just stop playing because they don't have the vibe.
Ahmad Shahzad real id se sao ! 😂
osman bhai ne icc chairman ko saala bol dia rofl
Osman is really good.
Shaheen despite his form should have not been dropped. He did really well in Australia and has developed an out swinger too. It would have been interesting to see how he fares in South Africa. If he is to be rested, it would have been better to rest him in series vs west indies at home in January in spin friendly pitches.
he cannot bowl 4 overs in a row anymore man... stop it, you shouldn't waste a spot in squad just to make him happy.
@MuhammadXayanAbid you can't say that bro. Even on multan road shaheen was the one who bowled really well. Numbers won't tell u this obviously you had to watch that boring match to see this. My point is if there's any place he could get his form back and be effective it was South Africa
@@Mehtab-Hassan well yeah, I do agree that African conditions would've suited him, but I think Champions Trophy is ahead and Aqib doesn't want to risk losing Shaheen because of almost an irrelevant test series - winning or losing doesn't do much for us, and Shaheen isn't in his peak fitness form yet, the pace isn't there, tho he's developing variance in his game, but right now he isn't a better test bowler than Mir Hamza or Khurram Shahzad imo... both even at below 130kmph are much much better than him, also they've good performances in Australia so they warrant their chances too. Shaheen should focus on fitness imo, and recover his pace, before his return to test cricket.
Shabbir Ahmed, even Shoaib Akhtar, Imran Zahid!
Usman Shinwari!
Sees new pod drop....immediately blocks off 1 hour metingat work to listen 😂😂
Play at 1.5x so 40 minutes
Ahmer naqvi aap bhi seekh lo nuance. Qatar mein world cup hua, phir bhi budweiser (one of the chief sponsors) ka beer stadiums mein bandh ho gaya. Sara european mulk bohot shor machaya tha.
Osman, man the nuance with which you speak is really envious. You're really the first person I've come across to acknowledge the fact that the concerns for India are different from those of the other countries. For what it's worth, PCB has done well to hold it's ground to try and highlight ICC's ineffectiveness and BCCI's lack of any accountability in it's communications.
Not only ICC's ineffectiveness but the sheer volume with which the game has consolidated itself within the big 3 and then the big 1. Cricket is now and has been for a while, a ridiculous and a non-serious sport.
@@haziqsjhsand how do you make it a serious sport?
😂
This the best Waqar interview….and I must have watched at least 30-40 interviews
I think 80's and 2010s were the tough ones!
Pin in the grenade they'd like to have.
le tere "line in the sand pe" moot diya 😂😂😂
"Pakistan will hold in hand the pin of the hand granite" Wat sort of statement is this.😂😂😂 Bhai granite se pin nikal diya tho woh phoot jata hai 😂😂😂 Yeh Pakistani bhi na har samya phoot ne ki liya taiyar hai 😂😂😂
Dude this tournament was allotted to Pakistan some three or four years back and what did you do in between these years to convince India that it is safe to travel to Pakistan except for somehow hosting all other foreign teams and PSL attended by retired foreign players but India still did not travel to Pakistan for any bilateral series, right. So you didn't do anything literally politically and militarily or tactically to address India-specific terror risks, just nothing. No Zarb-e-Azb, nor any other operation were carried out against India specific terror organisations based in Pakistan like against HuL, JeM and LeT. Over and above that you still don't have your ambassador in India and have downgraded all relations including trade, people contact, banned bollywood movies etc. Your whole point is if the White skinned nations can travel to Pakistan so automatically India will be forced to travel. But that is not the case, Indian Govt doesn't have any bilateral talks or any talks at multilateral event with you because of your support for terror against India then how cricket is possible. Indians have genuine threats from the terrorists who you support, harbour and sponsor against India. Till you do this it is morally and ethically wrong for the Govt of India and to Indian people to play cricket with you when our soldiers are constantly fighting against terror you sponsor. This isn't just right and none of the other cricketing nations except Afghanistan face this problem from you. So don't compare other nations coming to Pakistan with India.
As an Indian, I agree with most of your points. I'm sympathetic towards Pakistani fans, I think they deserve to have a tournament hosted once it's been allocated to them. I also think India should forfeit their games instead of trying to play them outside of Pakistan. There are a couple of points though: 1. BCCI could not have objected earlier to travel cause it's not their decision, it's Govt.'s. 2. Most people knew this is going to happen, so what was ICC's risk mitigation plan? 3. Even though I feel India should forfeit, imagine the financial impact it's going to have on all boards. Is that morally acceptable then?