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Great points I too love sub 40mm generally. I love citizen but they don’t make enough smaller watches. The few that I’ve had felt cheap. The Seiko 39mm SSC8 line feels like a premium watch. I do wish it had more lume and a 12 hour counter but love the case shape and size and I really liked the bracelet on this one too.

I just bought a Sea Lion for 90€. Id say thats the price for this watch ❤

It’s a real shame it didn’t fly no pun intended. That was actually a brilliant original design. I f that same design was executed by SAN Martin it would sell like hot cakes.

Very helpful video. I own 2 Croft mid-sized Spinnakers (Regiment Blue & Elemental), but have wondered for a while if I should consider a skeletonized one as well. I appreciate you honest take. God bless.

Great video. Silicone straps on the larger Bulova's are not the most comfortable, and I would go for a dark brown suede. I will keep a look out for this watch!

Look. I have the San Martin Waterghost with Sellita SW200 Movement for under 400 Euro taxed. So I have an mechanical watch with swiss movement with a Saphire glass, ceramic bezel, 200m WR and very well polished basics. You cant have a watch like that for that price anywhere in the world.

A suggestion: You try to aim for the perfect timing with the watch facing up, but in reality that's the position that the least likely to be when you wear it daily. From my experience I try to aim for the perfect time when the watch in a different position: you start from it pointing up, turn 45 degrees to left so it's at an angle and then turn half way towards you. Try to aim for perfect timing in this position and then compare how much time you lose/gain with daily wear.

I saw the Frogman in person today and it’s fugly (like your hat 😉)

Hydroconquest it the worst watch ever made. Awful clasp, too heavy, rough crown guards that will hurt your palms, it's designed by a committee (Explorer 12-6-9, really?, Tudorish hour hand (bleh), shrivelled markers), the bezel insert is stolen from Omega just so that Swatch Group can sell this shit as Seamaster for cheap people.

I've done home regulation on a variety of cheap watches, many with the 7s26 movement which is very similar to the NH movements. They can be very touchy, a movement of the lever that you can barely see may change by 1 minute per day. If you don't have the electronic instrument then proceed very slowly with adjustments.

The short answer if you like the Tag or any other watch and can afford it then yes buy it who cares what anybody else says

That bracelet is shocking and seems not to fit the watch well. It looks like the wrong bracelet for such a price level watch. I have a prospex turtle and a higher level diver and both bracelets fit very tightly and securely.

I thought you were supposed to de magnetise the movement while it was running? I've only come across one movement that ran erratically, using the sensor on my phone and CPU-Z's app to access the sensors reading, I was able to see the movement had a wildly different reading to my other watches, so I bought a cheapo demag tool and tested it on a magnetised screwdriver, sorted. I followed instructional video for performing demag with my tool on an automatic movement, it was stipulated that it should be running. Checking after got a normal parameters magnetic sensor reading and the watch still keeps good time. That was several years ago and that's how I remember it, but eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable so I'm asking, running or not and why so? Thanks really useful video for the lover of watches, great explanation of how it all works.

I had some extra money so I bought a black and white "Seaturtle" Luminox in 2022. I have it on right now. I like the design. I like that it is lightweight but also very robust (the case is carbonox not plastic). I like lightweight watches when I am at work. The lume is great. I like the overall look and it is very comfortable. I prefer this lume at night even if it will die after 12 years or whatever. I don't understand when people say there are quality issues. My luminox watches (quartz) are extremely accurate. The bezel on the Seaturtle is a bit loose for my taste. I paid $150 for this watch and I think it was worth it.

Ironically you'll likely lose more money on a cheap San Martin than on an expensive Rolex, so there's also that :P

Y do you unscrew the crown B 4 U demagnetize

Good comments and techniques. I too found out the hard way that it's remarkably easy to slip and permanently damage that ultra delicate hairspring. Go slowly and deliberately and you'll be OK. I use my spring bar tool to push the regulating arms around, FWIW.

I am fortunate that I can spend more on my watch collection. However, who the H do these snobs think they are, the watch police? People should buy what they like and spend what is in their budget. I also have quartz and solar pieces in my collection. Next time someone criticizes your selection, ask since they feel so strongly against it, are they going to buy the watch for you 😉

Nice shout on the Fugu i have the black case & navy blue bezel / dial awsome watch. being a seiko owner / collector skx 007 / 009 i dont like the new seiko range.

Not a good start when the Timegrapher is worth more than the watach

I'm the same. I have a couple of luxury watches but wear affordable watches much more often because they are less precious and i don't have to worry as much about them.

Good video, nicely delivered. Cheers!!

wtf???

Thank you!

That's the thing with a lot of these high-spec low-price watches. The movements are only coarsely regulated from the factory, and the watch companies don't do any additional regulating when they assemble them into watches. If they did, they would have to charge more. Throw in a bumpy airmail ride from China, and it's not surprising that these watches don't always have the best accuracy. I think anyone who collects these watches needs to invest in a timegrapher and learn how to regulate them. I have had really good luck with NH35 movements. One in particular arrived very badly out of regulation (losing over a minute a day) but after regulation, it is now one of my most accurate watches.

I have a bunch of Chinese watches and Swiss watches. Love them all in their own way. Cool video! Subscribed!

OMG, this watch has a round dial, and hands....it must be an hommge - lets hate it!!!!! I can't listen to this topic anymore

You said about withstanding the rigours of daily life... My boss wore his Rolex to the gym, and managed to make a right mess of it. A small fortune (for him, if it were me it would have been a large fortune) later he got it back. "Did it teach you a lesson?" I asked. "Yes," he said, "I cancelled my gym membership as I didn't expect the gym to cost me as much as it did." He still wears it daily, rain, shine, formal, casual, he enjoys the heck out of it. Me, it would be wrapped in an expensive diaper and placed lovingly in a safe somewhere. I wouldn't enjoy it. My Casios, Steeldives, Addiesdives and other Aliexpress homage/clomage are worn and enjoyed daily. If one dies, I don't cry. I just replace it and off we go again.

Update on the Lume: My experience with lume on this watch is completely different than you. I am getting 4-5 hours roughly from the lume dial. I find the hands lume however dies before the dial does funnily enough

If your standard for a homage is a design that has some similarities to another design. By this standard every watch is a homage.

Enjoyed the video, thanks. I'm not an expert, but most what I've picked up with regulating some of the same movements, appears in the video. So I must have done some right 😊. If I can't get a +/-0 secs, I prefer just a few seconds gain per day. That's because when the time is adjusted, it's a case of pulling out the crown, waiting for the real time to catch up, then push crown in. No need to move hands. Simpler. Also when I put silicone on the gasket, I put a small amount on, then pretty much wipe it off. A trace/film on the gasket is enough, I think. Thanks again for the video. Very clear and well made. l

I've thought about this too. 95% people won't care.. and the 5% who care won't be impressed with your Ali-Express watch that looks like an expensive watch. In the same way i can't tell a Birkin bag from a nice JC Penney purse. However, If could tell the difference.. I wouldn't be impressed with a Ali-Birkin-look-alike. From personal experience the thrill of a Ali watch wears off FAST. So yeah guys... There is a MOUNTAIN of vintage watches at amazing prices absolutely DRIPPING with class for the price of a San Martin Diver. Hamilton watches for instance has a very affordable service center making it possible to wear a watch for a life time. Shout out to my repair man Andy at Vintage Japanese Watch Company. Great Video!!

Love this.. For others to see, where I live in the Philippines, even a $50 clomage watch is already a half month salary, imagine than in your situation.

I'm on the fence. I own several "clomage" watches, but more watches that are brand original. I do feel a bit uncomfortable at times wearing the clomage - like I'm cheating. However, some the clomage watches are so well made its just crazy not to appreciate them and desire to own them.

I’m very much enjoying my Seestern homage of the Doxa Sub 300 T. I don’t know if Doxa uses Aventurine in their dials, which is why I went with the Aventurine version.

Very good and comprehensive video. Although I don't use and like the term clomage (for me there are clones=copies with fake brand tags and logos, or homages that can be identical or not, but with their own brand and logo), I think you present great valid points to the conversation. Best regards

Taking a design and reproducing something similar happens throughout the world and across all products. Are all your jeans from Levi or are you willing to try another manufacturer? In regards to watches, Tudor takes inspiration from their big brother, is that different from a Chinese company doing the same? The high end watches have always taken inspiration from other designs, is that different when it’s a cheaper manufacturer? There’s a lot of snobbery in this and there’s also different stances on it. Personally I wouldn’t wear a fake whether it’s a pair of jeans or a watch, but I’m fine with a homage. I’m just happy to see a real watch on someone’s wrist rather than a smart watch 😂

Reapnable take. My opinion is simple. If the watch violates other's IP, it's wrong. Beyond that, it's personal preference.

Absolutely agree with your points and subscribed. Very sound and level-headed points. As somebody who owns watches from a Rolex all the way to a Watchdives, shame on people who look down on others for what they wear. So long as they are happy with the purchase, not everybody should have to spend thousands of dollars to enjoy this hobby. Am always happy to see more people enjoying this hobby in whichever way they prefer.

Cool story bro

Buy what you want. Wear what you want.

I sold my Wise Hitman after a week. That awful NH35 was running around 15 seconds fast per day. Glad I got rid of that movement. It’s too cheap

Great video! I have also found that Chinese brands that do homages are treated very differently than non Chinese brands. Invicta pro diver or the timex homages are generally given a pass where San Martin gets roasted. I guess location matters.

Very respectful. I have the Sugess clomage of the Brietling Dues. I actually bought it more because of the ST901 movement and display case. The fact it looks nice doesn’t hurt!

Clomages are fine. I have two (quartz) Invicta Pro Divers that look similar to the Rolex Submariner and a Pagani Design 1701 that is reminiscent of the Omega Speedmaster. All good watches for the price. 99,9 percent of people who buy clomages are never going to buy 'the real thing', so there is no threat to the luxury watch brands. I very much prefer quartz over automatic movements, so when someone churns out affordable quartz versions of existing high end automatic watches i'm all for it. I would never spend $15k on a watch even if I had the money. That's just stupid. I'm totally against fake watches that use the same brand name as the watch they are replicating. That is immoral and illegal.

I can totally see that not many people can afford to pay £4k for a watch. Frankly I think the price of prestige watches is ridiculous. I remember in 1980 when I started work just about to turn 18 you could buy a Rolex submariner for £360. An average weekly wage was about £110. The problem as I see it with 'clomages' as being described here is that you'll constantly be reminded you haven't got the real thing. Imagine a film prop of a bar of gold. Would you get any satisfaction from owing it? Also because of the fact that many of these 'clomages' are a tiny fraction of the cost of the real thing they tend to fall down in many areas. Screw down crowns that don't operate smoothly. Poorly fitting bracelets. I bought an Omega speedmaster homage an 'Alpha' brand. It had the Chinese ST19 chronograph movement. The winding mechanism broke after a few months! With homages and Clomages I can't see how you can ever get any satisfaction owning one.

You made some very valid points my friend. Well done video

There's nothing to debate. i want to buy an Addiesdive homage Tudor Pelagos GMT and i want to buy a Ulysse Nardin Freak S . :D nothing to debate here.

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