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Open Source bi-weekly convo w @altcap & @bgurley on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism
Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week they discuss the looming presidential election and its impact on public market tech funds, public market dispersion, AI hype versus reality, Calcium CT scans, and more. Enjoy another episode of BG2.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(03:50) Public Market Dispersion (Mag 7 + Consumer Stocks)
(22:05) AI Costs vs AI Revenue
(47:25) Calcium CT Scans
Available on Apple, Spotify, www.bg2pod.com
Follow:
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Bill Gurley @bgurley x.com/bgurley
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Shownotes:
AI’s $600B Question by David Cahn
www.sequoiacap.com/article/ais-600b-question/
Widowmaker Documentary
ua-cam.com/video/7OKrg_IlZao/v-deo.html
Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(03:50) Public Market Dispersion (Mag 7 + Consumer Stocks)
(22:05) AI Costs vs AI Revenue
(47:25) Calcium CT Scans
Available on Apple, Spotify, www.bg2pod.com
Follow:
Brad Gerstner @altcap x.com/altcap
Bill Gurley @bgurley x.com/bgurley
BG2 Pod @bg2pod x.com/BG2Pod
Shownotes:
AI’s $600B Question by David Cahn
www.sequoiacap.com/article/ais-600b-question/
Widowmaker Documentary
ua-cam.com/video/7OKrg_IlZao/v-deo.html
Переглядів: 17 040
Відео
Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 54 тис.14 днів тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week they recap Coatue Conference and discuss Elon’s pay package, Tesla's shareholder vote, ISS controversy, AI market trends, OpenAI IPO, Delaware court case, and more. Enjoy another episode of BG2. Timestamps: (00:00) Overview of Coatue’s East Meets West Conference (5:05) AI ...
Ep10. Pre-IPO Market, AI Hype Cycle, Is Software Dead? | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 51 тис.Місяць тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss Pre-IPO market Changes, the reality versus perception of AI's future potential, the state of software, the impact of excess capital in the late-stage market, the importance of capitalism and immigration for the future of the United States, and more. Enjoy ano...
Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 57 тис.Місяць тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss OpenAI ChatGPT-4o, Astra, Consumer AI, Enterprise AI, China Tariffs, Trade Regulation, the tech markets, and more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:40) Open AI Launches GPT-4 Omni (10:29) Chat GPT-4o Benchmarks (14:11) Voice as the ...
Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 68 тис.2 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, joined by Sunny Madra (Head of Groq Cloud) they discuss AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterpise AI, Personal AI, the tech markets, and more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (01:10) $META Llama 3 (20:40) Enterprise AI (36:50) Personal AI (50:07) $TSLA Ea...
Ep7. The Great IPO Debate, Tesla Robotaxi v Uber, Tech Check | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 64 тис.2 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss The Great IPO Debate, Tesla Robotaxi vs. Uber, and a Tech Check. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction Eclipse 01:56 The Great IPO Debate 41:33 Tesla Robotaxi vs. Uber 01:10:27 Market Check Available on Apple, Spotify, www.bg2pod.com Fo...
Ep6. AI Demand / Supply - Models, Agents, the $2T Compute Build Out, Need for More Nuclear & More
Переглядів 56 тис.3 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss the challenge of forecasting the AI Supercycle, Stargate and the massive AI supercomputer build out, AI demand overhyped or underhyped, and current market valuations. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:49 Demand for Compute Is Virtually Un...
Ep5. Stock Comp, AI Cold War, Valuations for LLM | BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Bob Mylod
Переглядів 60 тис.3 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, joined by Bob Mylod, (Chair of Board, Bookings.com & Managing Partner of Annox Capital) they discuss stock compensation, Google Gemini / Apple, TikTok US & the New AI Cold War, MSFT / Inflection & VC Valuations for LLM’s. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (0:00) I...
Ep4. Tesla FSD 12, Imitation AI Models, Open vs Closed AI Models, Delaware vs Elon, & Market Update
Переглядів 90 тис.4 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss Tesla’s Full Self-Driving V12 and imitation learning, AI model improvements: open vs. closed, & more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (0:00) Intro Phase Shifts (3:42)Tesla FSD 12 & Imitation Learning (28:32) AI Model Improvements | Open vs Closed Mo...
BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | NVDA, Chips, AI Compute Build Out, AI Impact on Big Tech | E03
Переглядів 106 тис.4 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss earnings, inflation, interest rates, the impact of AI on Big Tech, NVDA, chips, fabs, Altman’s $7T to meet AI Compute needs, & more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (3:14) Earnings / Inflation / Rates (10:16) Impact of AI on Goog...
BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02
Переглядів 44 тис.5 місяців тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week we are joined by Box Co-Founder & CEO, Aaron Levie. They discussed software valuations, public markets earnings, all things AI and legal immigration. Enjoy another Episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (3:58) Software Valuations/Multiples (28:39) Public Markets E...
BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01
Переглядів 68 тис.5 місяців тому
Open Source weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. The rumors were true. Enjoy another Episode of Bg2. Available on Apple, Spotify, www.linktr.ee/bg2pod (0:00) Introduction and discussion on current market trends (3:12) Main topic: AI and its recent surge in venture capital investing (14:04) Discussion on the potential issues in AI com...
Thanks BG2 for your takes on the market and informing all of us. Stay blessed
this is awesome to hear you both think through the market in such great detail, keep it up!
Brad, you have been advocating that every child be funded with $1K at birth by the Government that it grows to a sizable amount by the time the child becomes an adult. You met some members of the Congress if my memory is correct. In my opinion, the calcium CT scan also needs an advocate such as you. Thanks for the selfless good work.
Brad, this is a great pod cast, thanks for all the charts!
51:11 Are you on crack?! You just said that the government of Texas was trying to mandate this cheap and effective treatment, but the corporate lobby and special interests fought it. Then you say that this is an example of 'government getting in the way of technology'?! Buddy, your 'guberment bad' bias is showing.
53:43 Why is this cardiac scan being prevented?! GREED! Pure and simple greed. Duh! I know you don't want to admit it, as that might effect your portfolio positions, but tell the truth for once. And hey! - Read the room guys, your corporate rat fink friends are going to find their heads on pikes during the peasant uprising if you all don't get your heads out of your keesters. You want to save America?! Start a reform movement to reign in this corporate greed and grift! Think about it! What has been the saving grace from all periods of excess historically? It's either a full collapse, or a tough reform movement. Where everyone agrees the greed, excess, and corporate shenanigans have gone too far. Everyone gets on board and cleans up their act. The most egregious are scape goated and sent to prison, regulations are put in place to prevent the scams of the past, and then you guys can restart the game of exploiting the system to your advantage without getting caught. Otherwise, you'll have a full scale revolt on your hands.
The only clear thing is that the VC and Finance folks who claim they are the 'smartest people in the room' are truly the most idiotic and dumb.
the openai voice demo was faked.
Brad is one of those ppl that is a zero interest rate phenomenon. Never actually done anything but collect fees and watch numbers go up on a chart. ☮️
One of the best podcast right now.
quality analysis, thanks. the kind of quality that your friends over at All-In used to do before they got seduced by politics and the attention they're getting from that.
Can’t respect you with these glasses on
great pod!
Biden is still head and shoulders above Trump in terms of depth of knowledge and integrity. If your relationship with the U.S. and it's democratic institutions is only purely transactional and short-term, you'll pick Trump. That isn't my M.O., so will vote against him.
This is why i used to tune in to the ALLIN POD. But now they has gone power grab mad.
The risk is some new idea emerges that performs just as well at a fraction of compute.
Thank you Great work
Can you gents find the time to do this weekly please?
CT calcium score is criticized on the basis of not enough randomized experimental data supporting its use.
Thank you for my TechMarkets intelligence analysis!
Incredibly timely and cogent discussion on Capex v. Return on AI investments. Excellent!
Great pod - and good push on both sides of where the compute spend will go. My guess is that there will be selective winners on compute - Microsoft, Google, Amazon - and most of the future demand will come from a) LLM architecture evolving (by virtue of research driven by current foundational model companies) and improving beyond its current limitations (which will reinforce scaling laws) b) use cases like autonomous driving, AlphaFold/AlphaGeometry, etc. which require massive compute, and will drive true compute demand in new areas beyond just LLMs (Outside of the 3 big ones, the rest will likely fall into the telco/infrastructure investment category, where most of the value capture will be on the application layer side)
Doctors get paid for sick care not healthy care..
Yes; all betting on building bigger and bigger LLMs …simply because people are afraid of potentially being left behind. But it doesn’t mean they won’t all hit the same wall - won’t scale. Billions to train new AI? Smaller LLMs and multi LLMs could work better.
The urge to watch the bg2 pod as soon as possible 💪
The other 495 are not all down, there are gems like AnF for example. Would be good to get commentary on companies ogher than mag 7
Anf isn’t in the 500
@@spartaleonidas540 true, my point is to get more commentary on more of the stock market...Nasdaq and dow
LLM diminishing returns... just compare the facebook 70B vs 8B vs chatgpt. Sure there are differences in some cases, but even the 8B is really good enough for general usage.
On the GS report, spending for stock price is easier. When I was at Qualcomm Strategy, it's 'easy' to spend billions without use case when the stock price is doing well, when revenue is growing 100% every quarter. At one point, we had hands in every semi products that have $1B revenue/year on the planet. Obviously, not everything worked out. But to have that kind of investments available to tech without business was simple when stock and revenue are growing at very high rate.
Pieces on the board for the players vs speculators on the side
Bill pumping Zillow with the cap!
How is there a %60 chance that a convicted felon con man is going to be our next president, we are f'ed!!!!
Just to clarify from today's pod. The Trump corporate tax cuts were permanent. The individual tax cuts end in 2025 (because they used reconciliation).
There are also studies suggesting copilots make white-collar workers 30-50% more productive ALREADY. Now, just multiply these productivity gains by the share of white-collar work of GDP (there is your return). Keep in mind the LLMs are also getting better.
I wonder if the Vet clinic can get a referral to the Calcium CTC scan?
Ask your ivermectin provider
Best pod
I don't see any political comments in the timestamps. Thank you.
Thanks. Another interesting conversation… and the Calcium CT scan information is a boon to your listeners.
Ai investment has prisoner Dilemma dynamics. As long as the scaling hypothesis holds, ai investment will rise to the maximum that corporate balance sheets can sustain. If the scaling hypothesis holds beyond that level, nation states will grab the baton.
This is delusional and how people think inside a bubble.
@@Natjkrass do you have an actual argument or proof that this isn’t the case?
@@cyberft Proof of what? Your first sentence about "prisoner dilemma dynamics" makes little sense and isn't elucidated upon. Your second sentence has no basis on reality. Most non-big tech corporates are just spending the bare minimum on an LLM wrapper. The third sentence is unrealistic. Nations pay defense contractors to do this for them.
@@theonlycaulfield oracle, meta, xai, Msft, amzn, googl, even VC firms are all spending billions building gpu super clusters. They aren’t realizing revenue that justifies this. They are trying to get enough compute to continue scaling to potentially achieve AGI and ASI as that is game over for anyone that does not.
I buy QQQs every month. Relentless bid. Wake me up in a decade.
Best business pod on the planet. Thanks guys.
excellent job guys, thank you
Many aspects of the tax cut are ending in 2025 but the corporate tax will remain at 21% unless Congress changes that rate again.
Does Brad like to wear those red glasses when he has a bearish outlook on the markets?
The excitement I previously got from seeing the thumbnail of a new all in ep has 100% transferred to this one. Keep up the great work 🤘
Bill, thank you for nudging CT scans!
Keep going guys
Love this pod, thank you gentlemen for staying in the markets and out of politics 🙏🏼 that’s exactly what I am looking for in a pod.
Same 😁
Yeah, this type of conversation used to be all in podcast, this is it now!
Great chart on the PE ratios right before the pullback. Thanks for sharing these insights for free!
Great discussion as always. You guys have a great chemistry together & the content & subject matter is always interesting. Thank you both.
‘21 multiples were driven by 0-1% 10 year treasury yields. That is probably not the right compare unless rates go back there.
And by fiscal spending estimates and liquidity.
I like that you guys cover markets and tech more often than all in.
All-in is a versatile podcast. This one is a tech market thermometer. Both of them have them merits.
I agree, would love to see Bg2 continue on this path, even if the episodes are released less often. G
Agreed! Great info!
@@krissn8111 All in is a sweater podcast as well.
Wow Bubbles has come a long way since the Trailer Park Boys. It's amazing what some good booklearnin' can do.
😂😂😂😂