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Ep12. Tech Stocks vs the Rest; AI VC Bubble, Calcium CT Scan | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week they discuss the looming presidential election and its impact on public market tech funds, public market dispersion, AI hype versus reality, Calcium CT scans, and more. Enjoy another episode of BG2.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(03:50) Public Market Dispersion (Mag 7 + Consumer Stocks)
(22:05) AI Costs vs AI Revenue
(47:25) Calcium CT Scans
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Shownotes:
AI’s $600B Question by David Cahn
www.sequoiacap.com/article/ais-600b-question/
Widowmaker Documentary
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Ep11. Coatue Conference Recap, Tesla & ISS Controversy | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 54 тис.14 днів тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week they recap Coatue Conference and discuss Elon’s pay package, Tesla's shareholder vote, ISS controversy, AI market trends, OpenAI IPO, Delaware court case, and more. Enjoy another episode of BG2. Timestamps: (00:00) Overview of Coatue’s East Meets West Conference (5:05) AI ...
Ep10. Pre-IPO Market, AI Hype Cycle, Is Software Dead? | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 51 тис.Місяць тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss Pre-IPO market Changes, the reality versus perception of AI's future potential, the state of software, the impact of excess capital in the late-stage market, the importance of capitalism and immigration for the future of the United States, and more. Enjoy ano...
Ep9. GPT-4o, Astra, Multi Modal, China Tariffs, Tech Earnings | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 57 тис.Місяць тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss OpenAI ChatGPT-4o, Astra, Consumer AI, Enterprise AI, China Tariffs, Trade Regulation, the tech markets, and more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:40) Open AI Launches GPT-4 Omni (10:29) Chat GPT-4o Benchmarks (14:11) Voice as the ...
Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 68 тис.2 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, joined by Sunny Madra (Head of Groq Cloud) they discuss AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterpise AI, Personal AI, the tech markets, and more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (01:10) $META Llama 3 (20:40) Enterprise AI (36:50) Personal AI (50:07) $TSLA Ea...
Ep7. The Great IPO Debate, Tesla Robotaxi v Uber, Tech Check | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner
Переглядів 64 тис.2 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss The Great IPO Debate, Tesla Robotaxi vs. Uber, and a Tech Check. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction Eclipse 01:56 The Great IPO Debate 41:33 Tesla Robotaxi vs. Uber 01:10:27 Market Check Available on Apple, Spotify, www.bg2pod.com Fo...
Ep6. AI Demand / Supply - Models, Agents, the $2T Compute Build Out, Need for More Nuclear & More
Переглядів 56 тис.3 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss the challenge of forecasting the AI Supercycle, Stargate and the massive AI supercomputer build out, AI demand overhyped or underhyped, and current market valuations. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 2:49 Demand for Compute Is Virtually Un...
Ep5. Stock Comp, AI Cold War, Valuations for LLM | BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner, & Bob Mylod
Переглядів 60 тис.3 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, joined by Bob Mylod, (Chair of Board, Bookings.com & Managing Partner of Annox Capital) they discuss stock compensation, Google Gemini / Apple, TikTok US & the New AI Cold War, MSFT / Inflection & VC Valuations for LLM’s. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (0:00) I...
Ep4. Tesla FSD 12, Imitation AI Models, Open vs Closed AI Models, Delaware vs Elon, & Market Update
Переглядів 90 тис.4 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss Tesla’s Full Self-Driving V12 and imitation learning, AI model improvements: open vs. closed, & more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (0:00) Intro Phase Shifts (3:42)Tesla FSD 12 & Imitation Learning (28:32) AI Model Improvements | Open vs Closed Mo...
BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | NVDA, Chips, AI Compute Build Out, AI Impact on Big Tech | E03
Переглядів 106 тис.4 місяці тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they discuss earnings, inflation, interest rates, the impact of AI on Big Tech, NVDA, chips, fabs, Altman’s $7T to meet AI Compute needs, & more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (3:14) Earnings / Inflation / Rates (10:16) Impact of AI on Goog...
BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, Immigration | E02
Переглядів 44 тис.5 місяців тому
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week we are joined by Box Co-Founder & CEO, Aaron Levie. They discussed software valuations, public markets earnings, all things AI and legal immigration. Enjoy another Episode of Bg2. Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (3:58) Software Valuations/Multiples (28:39) Public Markets E...
BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner | MANG VC Gone Wild, Can You Trust AI Valuations? & More | E01
Переглядів 68 тис.5 місяців тому
Open Source weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. The rumors were true. Enjoy another Episode of Bg2. Available on Apple, Spotify, www.linktr.ee/bg2pod (0:00) Introduction and discussion on current market trends (3:12) Main topic: AI and its recent surge in venture capital investing (14:04) Discussion on the potential issues in AI com...

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @faldiabate4216
    @faldiabate4216 18 хвилин тому

    Thanks BG2 for your takes on the market and informing all of us. Stay blessed

  • @MikeTownsend
    @MikeTownsend 22 хвилини тому

    this is awesome to hear you both think through the market in such great detail, keep it up!

  • @skomanduri7157
    @skomanduri7157 40 хвилин тому

    Brad, you have been advocating that every child be funded with $1K at birth by the Government that it grows to a sizable amount by the time the child becomes an adult. You met some members of the Congress if my memory is correct. In my opinion, the calcium CT scan also needs an advocate such as you. Thanks for the selfless good work.

  • @forcearc
    @forcearc Годину тому

    Brad, this is a great pod cast, thanks for all the charts!

  • @n8works
    @n8works 2 години тому

    51:11 Are you on crack?! You just said that the government of Texas was trying to mandate this cheap and effective treatment, but the corporate lobby and special interests fought it. Then you say that this is an example of 'government getting in the way of technology'?! Buddy, your 'guberment bad' bias is showing.

    • @n8works
      @n8works 2 години тому

      53:43 Why is this cardiac scan being prevented?! GREED! Pure and simple greed. Duh! I know you don't want to admit it, as that might effect your portfolio positions, but tell the truth for once. And hey! - Read the room guys, your corporate rat fink friends are going to find their heads on pikes during the peasant uprising if you all don't get your heads out of your keesters. You want to save America?! Start a reform movement to reign in this corporate greed and grift! Think about it! What has been the saving grace from all periods of excess historically? It's either a full collapse, or a tough reform movement. Where everyone agrees the greed, excess, and corporate shenanigans have gone too far. Everyone gets on board and cleans up their act. The most egregious are scape goated and sent to prison, regulations are put in place to prevent the scams of the past, and then you guys can restart the game of exploiting the system to your advantage without getting caught. Otherwise, you'll have a full scale revolt on your hands.

  • @n8works
    @n8works 3 години тому

    The only clear thing is that the VC and Finance folks who claim they are the 'smartest people in the room' are truly the most idiotic and dumb.

  • @DegenGammaCom
    @DegenGammaCom 3 години тому

    the openai voice demo was faked.

  • @shrek22
    @shrek22 4 години тому

    Brad is one of those ppl that is a zero interest rate phenomenon. Never actually done anything but collect fees and watch numbers go up on a chart. ☮️

  • @GeorgeNorris888
    @GeorgeNorris888 4 години тому

    One of the best podcast right now.

  • @johannesburgreal441
    @johannesburgreal441 4 години тому

    quality analysis, thanks. the kind of quality that your friends over at All-In used to do before they got seduced by politics and the attention they're getting from that.

  • @mazmazftw
    @mazmazftw 4 години тому

    Can’t respect you with these glasses on

  • @rapidsk8
    @rapidsk8 6 годин тому

    great pod!

  • @sarashann
    @sarashann 6 годин тому

    Biden is still head and shoulders above Trump in terms of depth of knowledge and integrity. If your relationship with the U.S. and it's democratic institutions is only purely transactional and short-term, you'll pick Trump. That isn't my M.O., so will vote against him.

  • @nygariottley245
    @nygariottley245 6 годин тому

    This is why i used to tune in to the ALLIN POD. But now they has gone power grab mad.

  • @benm5678
    @benm5678 8 годин тому

    The risk is some new idea emerges that performs just as well at a fraction of compute.

  • @jolyeagle
    @jolyeagle 8 годин тому

    Thank you Great work

  • @Stuart.McGregor
    @Stuart.McGregor 9 годин тому

    Can you gents find the time to do this weekly please?

  • @Sge32
    @Sge32 10 годин тому

    CT calcium score is criticized on the basis of not enough randomized experimental data supporting its use.

  • @william53
    @william53 11 годин тому

    Thank you for my TechMarkets intelligence analysis!

  • @amarkmanpeters
    @amarkmanpeters 15 годин тому

    Incredibly timely and cogent discussion on Capex v. Return on AI investments. Excellent!

  • @nigamshitij
    @nigamshitij 15 годин тому

    Great pod - and good push on both sides of where the compute spend will go. My guess is that there will be selective winners on compute - Microsoft, Google, Amazon - and most of the future demand will come from a) LLM architecture evolving (by virtue of research driven by current foundational model companies) and improving beyond its current limitations (which will reinforce scaling laws) b) use cases like autonomous driving, AlphaFold/AlphaGeometry, etc. which require massive compute, and will drive true compute demand in new areas beyond just LLMs (Outside of the 3 big ones, the rest will likely fall into the telco/infrastructure investment category, where most of the value capture will be on the application layer side)

  • @spartaleonidas540
    @spartaleonidas540 15 годин тому

    Doctors get paid for sick care not healthy care..

  • @ml2k8
    @ml2k8 16 годин тому

    Yes; all betting on building bigger and bigger LLMs …simply because people are afraid of potentially being left behind. But it doesn’t mean they won’t all hit the same wall - won’t scale. Billions to train new AI? Smaller LLMs and multi LLMs could work better.

  • @abhishekjaiswal9373
    @abhishekjaiswal9373 17 годин тому

    The urge to watch the bg2 pod as soon as possible 💪

  • @gabb05
    @gabb05 17 годин тому

    The other 495 are not all down, there are gems like AnF for example. Would be good to get commentary on companies ogher than mag 7

    • @spartaleonidas540
      @spartaleonidas540 15 годин тому

      Anf isn’t in the 500

    • @gabb05
      @gabb05 10 годин тому

      @@spartaleonidas540 true, my point is to get more commentary on more of the stock market...Nasdaq and dow

  • @jasonchen-alienroid
    @jasonchen-alienroid 18 годин тому

    LLM diminishing returns... just compare the facebook 70B vs 8B vs chatgpt. Sure there are differences in some cases, but even the 8B is really good enough for general usage.

  • @jasonchen-alienroid
    @jasonchen-alienroid 18 годин тому

    On the GS report, spending for stock price is easier. When I was at Qualcomm Strategy, it's 'easy' to spend billions without use case when the stock price is doing well, when revenue is growing 100% every quarter. At one point, we had hands in every semi products that have $1B revenue/year on the planet. Obviously, not everything worked out. But to have that kind of investments available to tech without business was simple when stock and revenue are growing at very high rate.

    • @spartaleonidas540
      @spartaleonidas540 15 годин тому

      Pieces on the board for the players vs speculators on the side

  • @MinhungShih
    @MinhungShih 18 годин тому

    Bill pumping Zillow with the cap!

  • @rollie5579
    @rollie5579 18 годин тому

    How is there a %60 chance that a convicted felon con man is going to be our next president, we are f'ed!!!!

  • @russellmm
    @russellmm 18 годин тому

    Just to clarify from today's pod. The Trump corporate tax cuts were permanent. The individual tax cuts end in 2025 (because they used reconciliation).

  • @jacksonmatysik8007
    @jacksonmatysik8007 18 годин тому

    There are also studies suggesting copilots make white-collar workers 30-50% more productive ALREADY. Now, just multiply these productivity gains by the share of white-collar work of GDP (there is your return). Keep in mind the LLMs are also getting better.

  • @user-ny2bx8ez1c
    @user-ny2bx8ez1c 19 годин тому

    I wonder if the Vet clinic can get a referral to the Calcium CTC scan?

  • @MrAcenit
    @MrAcenit 19 годин тому

    Best pod

  • @KK-pm7ud
    @KK-pm7ud 19 годин тому

    I don't see any political comments in the timestamps. Thank you.

  • @thr1525
    @thr1525 20 годин тому

    Thanks. Another interesting conversation… and the Calcium CT scan information is a boon to your listeners.

  • @cyberft
    @cyberft 20 годин тому

    Ai investment has prisoner Dilemma dynamics. As long as the scaling hypothesis holds, ai investment will rise to the maximum that corporate balance sheets can sustain. If the scaling hypothesis holds beyond that level, nation states will grab the baton.

    • @Natjkrass
      @Natjkrass 19 годин тому

      This is delusional and how people think inside a bubble.

    • @cyberft
      @cyberft 19 годин тому

      @@Natjkrass do you have an actual argument or proof that this isn’t the case?

    • @theonlycaulfield
      @theonlycaulfield Годину тому

      @@cyberft Proof of what? Your first sentence about "prisoner dilemma dynamics" makes little sense and isn't elucidated upon. Your second sentence has no basis on reality. Most non-big tech corporates are just spending the bare minimum on an LLM wrapper. The third sentence is unrealistic. Nations pay defense contractors to do this for them.

    • @cyberft
      @cyberft 25 хвилин тому

      @@theonlycaulfield oracle, meta, xai, Msft, amzn, googl, even VC firms are all spending billions building gpu super clusters. They aren’t realizing revenue that justifies this. They are trying to get enough compute to continue scaling to potentially achieve AGI and ASI as that is game over for anyone that does not.

  • @1daves
    @1daves 20 годин тому

    I buy QQQs every month. Relentless bid. Wake me up in a decade.

  • @cyberft
    @cyberft 20 годин тому

    Best business pod on the planet. Thanks guys.

  • @RobertvMill
    @RobertvMill 20 годин тому

    excellent job guys, thank you

  • @stephenhunter121
    @stephenhunter121 21 годину тому

    Many aspects of the tax cut are ending in 2025 but the corporate tax will remain at 21% unless Congress changes that rate again.

  • @pm-dev
    @pm-dev 21 годину тому

    Does Brad like to wear those red glasses when he has a bearish outlook on the markets?

  • @jesseharradine9861
    @jesseharradine9861 21 годину тому

    The excitement I previously got from seeing the thumbnail of a new all in ep has 100% transferred to this one. Keep up the great work 🤘

  • @rohitnair9304
    @rohitnair9304 22 години тому

    Bill, thank you for nudging CT scans!

  • @ReasonableHuman1
    @ReasonableHuman1 22 години тому

    Keep going guys

  • @brendanreid8241
    @brendanreid8241 22 години тому

    Love this pod, thank you gentlemen for staying in the markets and out of politics 🙏🏼 that’s exactly what I am looking for in a pod.

    • @MindFieldMusic
      @MindFieldMusic 22 години тому

      Same 😁

    • @helLf1nGerTA
      @helLf1nGerTA 17 годин тому

      Yeah, this type of conversation used to be all in podcast, this is it now!

  • @barbarosozturk
    @barbarosozturk 22 години тому

    Great chart on the PE ratios right before the pullback. Thanks for sharing these insights for free!

  • @johnmacri7440
    @johnmacri7440 22 години тому

    Great discussion as always. You guys have a great chemistry together & the content & subject matter is always interesting. Thank you both.

  • @stevec1996
    @stevec1996 23 години тому

    ‘21 multiples were driven by 0-1% 10 year treasury yields. That is probably not the right compare unless rates go back there.

    • @KK-pm7ud
      @KK-pm7ud 19 годин тому

      And by fiscal spending estimates and liquidity.

  • @swaggitypigfig8413
    @swaggitypigfig8413 23 години тому

    I like that you guys cover markets and tech more often than all in.

    • @krissn8111
      @krissn8111 22 години тому

      All-in is a versatile podcast. This one is a tech market thermometer. Both of them have them merits.

    • @matt-james-c
      @matt-james-c 20 годин тому

      I agree, would love to see Bg2 continue on this path, even if the episodes are released less often. G

    • @saimahsexperience
      @saimahsexperience 18 годин тому

      Agreed! Great info!

    • @mastershredder2002
      @mastershredder2002 17 годин тому

      @@krissn8111 All in is a sweater podcast as well.

  • @jeffgorchynski
    @jeffgorchynski 23 години тому

    Wow Bubbles has come a long way since the Trailer Park Boys. It's amazing what some good booklearnin' can do.