Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner

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  • Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
  • Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, joined by Sunny Madra (Head of Groq Cloud) they discuss AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterpise AI, Personal AI, the tech markets, and more. Enjoy another episode of Bg2.
    Timestamps:
    (00:00) Intro
    (01:10) $META Llama 3
    (20:40) Enterprise AI
    (36:50) Personal AI
    (50:07) $TSLA Earnings Call & Rideshare
    (52:10) Tech Check
    Available on Apple, Spotify, www.bg2pod.com
    Follow:
    Brad Gerstner @altcap x.com/altcap
    Bill Gurley @bgurley x.com/bgurley
    Sunny Madra @sundeep x.com/sundeep
    BG2 Pod @bg2pod x.com/BG2Pod
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 123

  • @maku5289
    @maku5289 3 місяці тому +105

    Keep it coming boys, we could use this weekly 🤩

    • @cyberft
      @cyberft 3 місяці тому +3

      It probably shouldn’t be weekly. The value gets diluted when you have a forced cadence like a weekly podcast.

    • @timonsmeets387
      @timonsmeets387 3 місяці тому +2

      Nah, biweekly is perfect.

    • @videowatching9576
      @videowatching9576 3 місяці тому +1

      Prefer every other week as well - allows for enough stuff happening, and opportunity to go deeper. All In Pod for instance coudl probably benefit from every other week.

  • @crb107
    @crb107 3 місяці тому +82

    Best new pod out there

  • @joshsingh6786
    @joshsingh6786 3 місяці тому +7

    This podcast is gold. Extremely holistic and cutting-edge. This is like the compass to navigate the AI revolution currently.

  • @videowatching9576
    @videowatching9576 3 місяці тому +26

    Amazing pod all around: Brad, Bill, and Sunny - appreciate Sunny’s ai insights as well as for being a cool chill dude.

  • @Whitebeltdev
    @Whitebeltdev 3 місяці тому +6

    Much better than ALL IN! Not by comedy but honest feedback on practical application of knowledge.
    Tired of politics. Been listening to podcast since I was a kid. Joe Rogan day 1 as well as all in.

  • @CyberKyle
    @CyberKyle 3 місяці тому +7

    The dudes are back! What an exciting time for these conversations, so much is happening so fast and I’m always excited to hear what they have to say about the latest happenings.

  • @bryandaniel3030
    @bryandaniel3030 3 місяці тому +2

    Excellent information! Thank you all three for taking time out of your schedule.

  • @kaiguy
    @kaiguy 3 місяці тому +2

    Great flow - shout out to Brad who efficiently transitions the conversation to new topics.

  • @andrewlewin6525
    @andrewlewin6525 3 місяці тому +5

    Great episode, nice flow between the three of you

  • @HEBEcoin
    @HEBEcoin 3 місяці тому +2

    You guys make us all a notch smarter.. thanks for giving us a front row seat to the most exciting of times!!

  • @Finnious
    @Finnious 3 місяці тому +3

    Great episode. Good to hear a conversation about all the models being released and the impact we might see.

  • @AIlysAI
    @AIlysAI 3 місяці тому +2

    This was pretty good AI talk, keep it coming Brad, Bill, and Sunny!

  • @4ndj
    @4ndj 3 місяці тому

    Whoa, new podcast with two legends?? Very glad this exists :)

  • @richardmansfield1013
    @richardmansfield1013 3 місяці тому

    awesome conversation, from a layperson trying to grasp what may happen tomorrow/future it would be very informative for someone like sunny while on this pod to give a 30000 feet macro opinion of where this world is heading Thanks for all taking the time to do this

  • @PaulRiddle0
    @PaulRiddle0 3 місяці тому

    loved the deep dive! also great input of SM

  • @atangbingana283
    @atangbingana283 3 місяці тому

    thank you for the pod lads!

  • @jezbear1972
    @jezbear1972 3 місяці тому +1

    Loveeee Sunny.... such a coooool geezer!!!!

  • @Th3_Hoff
    @Th3_Hoff 3 місяці тому +7

    I have no idea what the first 40 minutes were about...but I appreciate the high level discussion.

    • @danielwestereng155
      @danielwestereng155 3 місяці тому +1

      Stay in the game keep learning everyday lil bit at a time! God bless the mission.

  • @tvm73827
    @tvm73827 3 місяці тому +50

    Sunny is a very good addition to the team (hopefully it is permanent). With all due respect to BG2 since they haven't personally built anything significant, they don't have an entrepreneur's perspective like Sunny does. As a successful entrepreneur myself, I like what Sunny provides to this discussion.

    • @outsidersmv4867
      @outsidersmv4867 3 місяці тому +4

      I’d suggest that Benchmark Capital and Altimeter Capital and their respective track records are each outstandingly “significant”…and then throw in BG2 Pod, again, significant

    • @rubic0n2008
      @rubic0n2008 3 місяці тому +5

      Lol, look up Altimeter and re-read your comment again. 😂

    • @themakerofmagic
      @themakerofmagic 3 місяці тому +5

      Please Do more research, this is incorrect

    • @michaelholmes8848
      @michaelholmes8848 3 місяці тому +2

      What have you successfully built?

    • @pudgypenguin4614
      @pudgypenguin4614 3 місяці тому +2

      it will ruin the name of the pod

  • @encod3123
    @encod3123 3 місяці тому +6

    Thanks for this

  • @zamarinen
    @zamarinen 2 місяці тому

    new favorite podcast

  • @willjack6725
    @willjack6725 3 місяці тому

    Aha, I see a challenge to the All In Pod and I for 1 welcome this challenge.
    The besties will appreciate some heavy hitting competitors like you chaps.
    Sub’d!! Bring it on.

  • @sopwafel
    @sopwafel 3 місяці тому +6

    I love VC podcasts because being a successful investor/CEO VERY strongly selects for having an accurate and nuanced view of the world. On a surprisingly wide range of topics also!

  • @speakers159
    @speakers159 3 місяці тому

    great pod, much better than all in

  • @hendrikvanhove
    @hendrikvanhove 3 місяці тому

    Man this is a great podcast and episode

  • @tunesafari8952
    @tunesafari8952 3 місяці тому

    Excellent episode, thanks

  • @charles_cody
    @charles_cody 3 місяці тому +1

    Open Source will always advance the technology faster than closed source. Closed might be more...pleasing to use & look at, but open will do the work.

  • @fereydunk
    @fereydunk 3 місяці тому

    Thank you
    Appreciate all the great insights

  • @spmanagement9439
    @spmanagement9439 3 місяці тому +1

    Great pod! would love if you can post sources in the bio

  • @yogi2543
    @yogi2543 3 місяці тому

    Oh wow. All-in, we're coming for ya

  • @johnmacri7440
    @johnmacri7440 3 місяці тому +5

    Tesla is just getting started.

  • @christianacurio4449
    @christianacurio4449 2 місяці тому

    Wating for the next episode ⭐️

  • @alexandertosa4993
    @alexandertosa4993 2 місяці тому

    Great show!

  • @volcon
    @volcon 3 місяці тому

    Love the pod ❤ but feels like Brad is in a rush, relax even if it gets longer

  • @ReasonableHuman1
    @ReasonableHuman1 3 місяці тому

    This is pure awesomeness

  • @OVOChatgpt
    @OVOChatgpt 3 місяці тому +1

    Sunny!!!!! Sunny becoming a legend overnight… going to leave jcal behind 😂

  • @davidwebb2337
    @davidwebb2337 2 місяці тому

    Just wanted to say thanks for sane and rational and informative discussion around Tesla. Granted I’m a bull, but there’s so much garbage Tesla content… thanks!

  • @Jmsbnny
    @Jmsbnny 3 місяці тому

    Thank you gents

  • @Adam13Chalmers
    @Adam13Chalmers 3 місяці тому +1

    Do current models allow for different 'urgency' to return a result? I may want most search results instantly, but if I can prompt to...'Take some time, triple check your work, include footnotes, and cite sources; I'll review your results and provide feedback in an hour...' that could be more productive for me, compared to immediate results with lots of follow up interaction needed from me, to get to what I need.

  • @basedmuslimbooks
    @basedmuslimbooks 3 місяці тому

    All in pod : good high level overview of all things
    This pod : better mid level view of tech/AI
    Subscribed

  • @apaporiscoin
    @apaporiscoin 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks

  • @LeveragedFinance
    @LeveragedFinance 3 місяці тому +2

    bring Sunny back

  • @agilejro
    @agilejro 3 місяці тому +1

    Memory in GPT was just announced today. Not like it will be but the initiation of memory.

  • @abdelhadiazzouni4874
    @abdelhadiazzouni4874 3 місяці тому

    great pod.
    Brad, you could let others speak more - would be great

  • @midgetsanchez
    @midgetsanchez 3 місяці тому +2

    Sunny should be a regular

  • @vtomyuk
    @vtomyuk 3 місяці тому

    Experts at work 👨‍🍳

  • @antonioCsilveira
    @antonioCsilveira 3 місяці тому

    It would be great to get Sunny’s perspective on Apple LLM Open Source projects and how it compares/differentiates vs Llama3, Mistral, Databricks DBRX, etc

  • @TickerSymbolYOU
    @TickerSymbolYOU 3 місяці тому +2

    The only thing I don't like about this podcast is it's not weekly :) The LLAMA-3 segment was straight 🔥🔥🔥

  • @ST5S5
    @ST5S5 2 місяці тому

    I think eventually the largest ai models will be somewhat commoditized but the differentiators will be the surrounding structure built around models for developers to use and plug into

  • @EvolDee1
    @EvolDee1 3 місяці тому

    No FUD pure pleasure

  • @okgoogle4206
    @okgoogle4206 3 місяці тому

    Where can i use llama 3 with a nice GUI?

  • @jezbear1972
    @jezbear1972 3 місяці тому

    not hitting on Bill but he looks FINNNNNNEEEE today!!!!

  • @dasalsakid
    @dasalsakid 3 місяці тому +1

    These dudes just feel like you could sit down and have a beer with 'em
    •Shiner Bock

  • @pauldannelachica2388
    @pauldannelachica2388 3 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Stuart.McGregor
    @Stuart.McGregor 3 місяці тому +1

    Brad is the best moderator/talent (sorry JCal), Bill is the ‘Legend’ & Sunny is still out on the field (understands the play).
    An awesome lineup. Please consider weekly episodes to stay relevant.

  • @stevenheymans
    @stevenheymans 3 місяці тому

    in all these tech discussions, it's easy to forget that people are paying for convenience so $20 certainly isn't dead

  • @GET2222
    @GET2222 2 місяці тому +1

    Way better than JCAL moderating. He’s brutal.

  • @austinbentley2760
    @austinbentley2760 3 місяці тому +1

    When they speak of the money not being in the model and more so in what to do with the model, it just seems like Palantir solves all these issues.

  • @pin65371
    @pin65371 3 місяці тому

    I think the next GPT is going to be a more efficient GPT4 with lots of small specialized models. Trying to stuff everything into one model doesnt make much sense. It makes more sense to have lots of specialized models with an agent system working with those models.

  • @sucim
    @sucim 3 місяці тому

    I love that sunny is not too butthurt about groq, actually he seems to express relatively neutral views

  • @romrocktv8921
    @romrocktv8921 3 місяці тому

    I would think the JOBS Act is the reason why we have change in Private to Public Companies...

  • @tusharkhandelwal0709
    @tusharkhandelwal0709 3 місяці тому

    Get operators, yes pls

  • @albadriali
    @albadriali 3 місяці тому

    So much alpha 🎉

  • @earleyelisha
    @earleyelisha 2 місяці тому

    No "Zero-Shot" Without Exponential Data: Pretraining Concept
    Frequeney Determines Multimodal Model Performance

  • @rjpruitt
    @rjpruitt 3 місяці тому

    Does anyone know what brand/model of standing desk is behind Brad?

  • @PeterHutchen
    @PeterHutchen 3 місяці тому

    "Models - Models - Models - Models"....."Zuck threw down!" 😆

  • @hendrikvanhove
    @hendrikvanhove 3 місяці тому

    @brad, what does one need to do to work for you

  • @Kenneth_James
    @Kenneth_James 3 місяці тому +9

    This Pod would have more success with a better name.

    • @bobbyaxelrod5959
      @bobbyaxelrod5959 3 місяці тому +1

      Who gives a fuck? This isn’t all in. It’s better and it doesn’t need to do anything besides make great content when they want to record.

  • @vrajderkar
    @vrajderkar 3 місяці тому +1

    Real honest question you guys are so optimistic how come you never talk about the real issues like electricity usage ,lack of copper building, this infrastructure and how it's going to affect the society with unemployment? Thanks

    • @HEBEcoin
      @HEBEcoin 3 місяці тому

      Hmm.. Tesla has largely solved autonomy.. what human disease discoveries are next.. ever hear the expression missing the forest for the 🌲's..

    • @vrajderkar
      @vrajderkar 3 місяці тому

      I am an investor, just more realistic

    • @HEBEcoin
      @HEBEcoin 3 місяці тому

      Nope.. you truly missing the moment and dramatic benefits for humanity..

  • @UnsaltedCashew38
    @UnsaltedCashew38 3 місяці тому

    These 3 BlackShirtGPTs speak too slow, they aren't processing tokens fast enough so I had to set playback to 1.75x speed :)

  • @ArchiNeumann
    @ArchiNeumann 3 місяці тому +1

    Great content, love learning from the masters! But your faces are too dark (exposure) and red (white balance) relative to backgrounds; consider your team putting up a large strong pendant light over the conf table, or if such exists and isn't fixing it, a chandelier of baffled softboxes aimed at each side of the table (most appealing result, but most unusual-looking apparatus). At min, post-process the footage with Premiere's Lumetri Color (or comparable). Lighting is an underrated investment - will make much better content from this conf.rm., and people in it will enjoy looking good to one another!

  • @djcardwell
    @djcardwell 3 місяці тому

    problem is energy not compute.

  • @AdamWeatherall
    @AdamWeatherall 3 місяці тому

    Imo spending that much on cap x will ultimately prove fruitless, but will serve to thwart other potential threats to current business models, there wading into a field on what will become a series of diminishing returns in-terms of capturable market space, I feel like they are doing the heavy lifting here for the next gen of a.i companies while thwarting the current apparatus just as it takes form.

  • @Aedonius
    @Aedonius 3 місяці тому

    You could have rates at 50% and still have inflation if oil prices go higher.
    Low energy supply is driving inflation, not high money supply.

  • @nygariottley245
    @nygariottley245 3 місяці тому

    GPT now has memory

  • @dunzerz
    @dunzerz 3 місяці тому

    I think they're overestimating the potential of open-sourced models like LLama 3 in the Enterprise space. These open models don't provide some of the critical features important to F500 companies like security, control, legal/IP protection, etc.. Let alone the enormous overhead costs of maintaining an open model.

  • @rahuliox
    @rahuliox 3 місяці тому

    category 5 earthquake? whp kidnapped richter?

  • @DanFarfan
    @DanFarfan 3 місяці тому

    million tokens into the prompt... seems like a lot ;-)

    • @arrogantprickly
      @arrogantprickly 3 місяці тому

      Going to need that if we want to avoid fine-tuning for every use case.

  • @mastershredder2002
    @mastershredder2002 3 місяці тому

    I find it disturbing how we never talk about the huge failures like Lacework and analyze what went wrong. This would be an interesting topic.

  • @justinIrv1
    @justinIrv1 3 місяці тому

    just a couple words...Tony Seba

  • @marc6402
    @marc6402 2 місяці тому

    You will be able to order a tesla robotaxi from X

  • @perrymossino9231
    @perrymossino9231 3 місяці тому

    Billecart-Salmon? Dom 2012 way better choice.

  • @SECULARDEVELOPMENT
    @SECULARDEVELOPMENT 2 місяці тому

    I love how you guys often describe what Palantir does at its highest level but you never say the company name which is Palantir.Palantir…..Palantir…….Palantir

  • @astrophage381
    @astrophage381 2 місяці тому

    Why does Brad sound like tiktok AI?

  • @podangadubukus
    @podangadubukus 3 місяці тому

    Allow others to talk

  • @thehari75
    @thehari75 3 місяці тому

    Shouldnshould be here every time u talk about ai

  • @alstocktrades
    @alstocktrades 3 місяці тому

    Who is here after the All in podcast? Had one of the worst episodes ever? 😂🎉😂

  • @ralllao7295
    @ralllao7295 3 місяці тому

    How about speaking similar amount of times each & not dominating the conversation? Feel like Bill & the guest isn't really speaking.

  • @DesmondMiles333
    @DesmondMiles333 3 місяці тому

    Who is here again the 2nd time after All in had their worst epi of all time in a while xD

  • @sixteengloucester1883
    @sixteengloucester1883 3 місяці тому

    groq is doomed. ceo is a dork being feted here by his investors.

  • @aleekamui
    @aleekamui 3 місяці тому

    Just dont invite sheryl sandberg plz

  • @Mrrockstarmeta
    @Mrrockstarmeta 3 місяці тому

    1 bg talks to much

  • @ExecutiveZombie
    @ExecutiveZombie 3 місяці тому +1

    The 405, In Los Angeles,
    Is DEAD STOPPED WITH TRAFIC ZUCKER! 🙄👊🏾 Way to go ZUCKER! 🦾😎🧟‍♀️