He says that but his new show was just a conglomerate of the most "morally obvious", woke, left wing views that he could think of. The hypocrisy is laughable.
@@adambradley4293 but i feel like the whole show was him taking the piss out of that … it’s a weird cycle to get in to, because it sort of acts as criticism of what you are, but it also acts as a safety net for any criticism because you can just say you were already criticising it… but i still think it’s done well, because it hasn’t been done before - but it doesn’t need to be done again (as is the case with all art) which is one of the reasons why Youngblud’s poor knock off of the 1975’s show is so poor
This is the case with a lot of these "politically charged" pop stars (or rather their management teams...), and people in general. You think racism is bad? Wow, what a brave and controversial statement!
@@adambradley4293 yeah, the dude is a massive hypocrite. But he also thinks he's in a revolutionary band when all the songs I hear from them are either just naff, basic pop records or poor knock-offs of stuff that has been done years before (paul simon, vampire weekend etc). And I have no issue with young, idealistic pop stars with naive, over-simplistic, trendy view points, it's nothing new and their hearts are generally in the right place. I do have an issue with Healy trying to play both sides though.
The trickster. Wow. This blew my mind. I hadn't realised what made me so uncomfortable about feuds between rockstars. Back to the drawing board then. Cheers for that Justin
Love this stuff, we need people to disrupt and start a conversation at this moment in time. We're in danger of becoming like those bobble head dogs, nodding in the back of a car.
They’ll both end up with extra attention and publicity from this, and ultimately income. A smart business move from both sides whether intended or not.
Right first things first, iv just spent exactly 6 days watching everyone of your "Rides again" videos back to back and literally watched the last one as this was posted so great timing 😀
I love when one brilliant human speaks brilliantly about other brilliant humans. It becomes a positive conversation rather than a bitch-fest. I applaud you sir.
Musician fueds are always comedy gold. GNR vs Nirvana, Oasis vs Blur. Is great to see it make a comeback. You can tell just from the music that Matty is a lot brighter than YungBlud - and for all his silliness, Matty is probably actually quite a funny and sharp bloke. YungBlud is an industry plant. He’s a product. Matty has already shown him up.
I mean, after watching the Louis Theroux Interviews episode with YungBlud I tend to lean the same way as you.. banging on about his traumatic upbringing, being working class etc and then cut to a middle class house where the whole family is sat around drinking tea together and it's all really nice..
When he lit up on stage, it reminded me of, and this is a bit of a pull: does anyone remember that Never Mind The Buzzcocks episode where Simon Amstell was taking the piss out of Donnie Tourette? "Hold on, Donnie's *smoking* now? A *normal* cigarette that you can *legally buy in shops?* I'll try to carry on, but I am both *shocked and appalled!"*
If we're canceling people who objectify black woman then let's be real. 95% of rap and pop artists would be canceled too. Yet nobody is screaming for their heads.
Yungblud is a product. His music, thoughts, presentation are all nothing more than what the industry thinks we need and sadly people lap it up. He’s a construct. Matt is saying what’s in his own head, even if it creates friction, you can hear the difference and it makes you want to listen. We’ve made it so easy for people by protecting them from conflict that friction has become an endangered beast, but we need so much more friction, to generate honest conversation, which leads to growth and understanding. I love that managers are thanking each other, just as much as I love Matt creating friction, it’s the balance of the two that we need, to help us form our own thoughts and opinions through the different experiences. We don’t stretch our brains enough anymore and don’t know how to respond to differing opinions without hate, which is dumbing us down.
@@harrybirchall3308 just because morons have made similar points about less justifiable subjects, doesnt make this a moronic point by any means. People who moan about cancel culture are indeed morons. But people who bemoan a lack of critical dialogue are the ones who are making a valid and necessary point. Unfortunately, the byproduct of the morons is that the smart people can't make such arguments in good faith without it being tainted by morons on twitter. "without hate" is a key part of the argument here. not a boomer take to want a healthy but challenging discourse. I think that's actually the entire point of this video...
@@lunchb0x1986 Not a boomer (or even close) but very proud to have received my first OK boomer, so thank you!!! You proved my point perfectly :) I didn’t say anyone had it easy, but that challenges have been progressively removed in the last couple of decades, and that means the resilience isn’t there. That’s proven over and over in research. And life’s much tougher now, which is why it’s sad that resilience isn’t there because it’s going to make it much harder for you.
@@harrybirchall3308 My point extends well past the video topic, this relates to every day conversations as much much as this exchange. It’s easier to just label people than to rebut or provide a different point of view in a constructive manner. People are too afraid to say their piece in fear of “cancellation” even in real life, and that’s sad.
I've long thought that GnR in their prime was the last truly insane, dangerous rock band. No one knew what Axl might say. No one knew who he might take an (actual, physical) swing at and when. No one knew if there'd be a riot -- it was just "dress appropriately for dodging flying stadium seats." Matt Healy has a RAZOR SHARP bullshit detector, whatever his faults might be, and performative sensitivity and empathy are worthy targets. And geez, that Yungblud imitation is hilarious. Postscript: As much as it pains me to admit, "welcome to your 30s, I guess" is also a pretty sick burn. Gonna use that across decades.
Agreed. He’s quite intelligent and you can tell through his music, lyricism, and conceptual ideas in this latest tour. Yungblood totally ripped him off he just really missed the mark.
I want to applaud you for showcasing this topic. I love it when we can share our opinions, in a critical way, which argues “ideas”. What I cannot tolerate is “cancel culture”, which demonizes a “person”. Thank you 🙏
I agree, this whole "cancel" culture thing is just stupid and shows what kind of egos some have. We all have an ego, but some just abuse it for their own agenda.
I’m 40 . Healy and the band is a guilty pleasure . Nothing stagnant about their music over time. It’s a rare thing in pop these days. It’s all entertainment with him
I will say this about matty. i've been a fan of 1975 for a long time. Seen two of their live shows. I may not always agree with his takes, in fairness he's an artist. However, something i've grown to admire is his willingness to use his platform to speak on things he's passionate about. Other people may say, shut up and play the music, but he challenges things with his music and his little pep talks on stage. I kinda dig it. Again, not all the time, but at least it shows he's thinking about things and his place in the world and his impact on others as an artist. I think even deeper what's more admirable, is he's risking his career to say what he feels in his heart and he seems to be trying to be as authentic as he can be. And that's what's cool. He's just being himself. Thanks for covering this. Music drama is cool beans.
@@Phuqarf whilst I don't like either of them particularly, I think Healy at least contrives his own image whereas I can imagine YoungBlud being more at the mercy of his label but you could argue what's the difference, splitting hairs really. As far as music rivalries go, it's not exactly a heavyweight battle lol.
I know what you mean about the cigarette looking pretty good, I quit over 6 months ago(well actually I substituted it with nicotine vape) so I guess quitting wouldn't be an accurate word, but I haven't had even one cigarette since my substitution. I don't miss the cigs as much as I thought I would, but when I see people smoking on tv or video, it's nearly impossible to resist. I was having the same reaction to Healy smoking when you mentioned it.
I basically went through my teenage years listening to THE1975(amongst other bands of course,yours included Justin!) and though my feelings wavered from agreement to confusion,I still love the fact my opinions,ideas were somewhat challenged by the artists I listened to.That,among many other things,helped me perceive conflict and disagreement as something rather natural and even fun.Even people I knew who had their prejudices against THE1975`s music,admitted they really liked,in some way or another,what Matty had to say at shows. He`s polarizing,but for people who follow them,they like that being polarizing is still a possibility.
Oh lordy, some of the fueds over the years have been spectacular. This one seems pretty mild in comparison. Often you find out things you either didn't know, or it opens your eyes to truths, sometimes making you look at yourself in a different way.. I dunno I like a bit of dramatics in the music industry.
It's so cringe how people can't have fun anymore. We are allowed to say stuff without meaning it, and the inverse also applies. If you actually try to use your brain, it is possible to decipher what people mean versus what they don't. Just try to be actually engaged instead of ONLY standing against stuff you agree with. People are so quick to stand against things, but never stand for anything.
It seems a lot of people don't get sarcasm and take everything literally. Or believe what the media says without checking things out for themselves or looking at the context. I enjoy Matty because of the subtletey in his words, but subtlety is a British thing and people in other countries might not get it. Americans rarely do subtlety.
I'd love to see your take on Metric "False Dichotomy," which I heard for the first time tonight. I came to post this before watching this video, and am now fascinated by the odd way that the universe appears to be working. Excellent content as always; thank you!
I've loved this guy since marshall stacks and Lycra body suits. Been somewhat keeping up ever since but hewvily since the yt channel. And now I get a dose of one of my favorite musicians.
Only got introduced to Matt Healy by Nick Mullen and Adam Friedland, but I dig em. Same goes for you Justin. You're an insane talent that gives me much needed inspiration when needed!
Same here. I listened to the show last week and just laughed I thought they were all just joking around and having fun. If it’s the type of show to offend you then just don’t listen to it.
I get that the Japanese exchange officer might be offensive but it's not that bad (also as it turns out there were Japanese exchange officers irl, which is surely much worse), but the period moon thing was so obviously a joke, how can you be offended at that
Yesss please interview Matty and pick his brain on a few topics. I don’t agree with everything he says, but he backs up his opinions pretty well and he’s quick to call himself out when he’s wrong, too.
@whywhywhy I'm not saying he's always correct, but people who are actually capable of independent thought are becoming more and more rare and we do need opposing views for education, awareness and balance.
Both of them are completely guilty of each other's accusations. Out of the two I'm more in Yungblud's camp, mainly because he reminds me a bit of Billy Idol and I do think he's a decent human being. Have seen him live and he's nuts, he really gives it his all. Really want to hate Matty Healy for what he said, but I think he's also totally right. Dom (yungblud) champions things that are 'morally obvious' and the impression did make me laugh. Perhaps it's all staged to give each other publicity as they tour? Anyway, I do feel a bit old to be having an opinion in this, it's hardly Robert Smith Vs Morrissey.
I think this jab that Yungblud is championing "obvious" stuff is because of his age; but who doesn't think they know everything at that age? I've seen Yungblud performs too, and I gotta say he's impressive. It's just him, a guitar and a drum. No smoke, not props. It's just him. Like, he really puts himself out there. There's something admirable about that. Who knows? he may be a flash-in-the pan, but he may really have something. He's developing his voice. I don't think it's fair for Matty Healy to mock YB's accent; it seems classist and personal, idk, you English got your own set of stuff around that jazz. But something about Matty Healy feels a bit entitled and his jab at YB kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Graceful thing may have been to just to ignore stuff. But times are changing, so who knows? I mean, feels like a week- a$$ feud in the end.
@@ellenhenderson6865 I doubt it's down to his age because he has a big team around him. I think this is where I agree with Matty. Dom defends what Matty refers to as "morally obvious" as those are issues that are definitely safer to champion- that doesn't mean that the things Dom defends are not important issues- they are jus safer issues, and I guess Matty doesn't find that very punk or rock n' roll. He's making a much bigger point at how contrived and sterile things are in the Music World right now. I interpret the dig at the broad Yorkshire accent as Matty accusing Dom of overdoing, and even cashing in on, his accent and imitating mega stars such as Liam Gallagher, Alex Turner and I'm sure there are others. Dom has borrowed from everyone going, but that's why I like him. He takes elements of so many big artists and groups that people love and melds it into some really good tracks and shows. The Cure, Oasis, Billy Idol, Nirvana , ACDC, The Artic Monkeys, Eminem and even the 1975 themselves, are all major influences on the music he puts out, he's like a walking, talking Juke Box. Matty seems frustrated by the music world and is making it known and I admire this, he seems more original (even if I do find his recent performances a bit pompous and lack luster) he's stirring the pot bigtime. On the Oasis thing, he's hit the nail on the head. Time will tell if he is using this as a guise to mask some of the more worrying and sinister views that people on social media have accused him of.
Return of the trickster is great; but I’m damn glad the tour managers have discovered that the most productive relationships are those which are amicable - much like Matty said!
Don't forget Fleetwood Mac & The Eagles, who both had multiple long-running vendettas within their own bands for years. Ironically enough, long after they've made peace / died off, fans who picked a side continue to fight over them years later.
Not a fan of either Yungblood or Matty Healy but I don’t know, Matty at least seems to be doing whatever he likes, Yungblood just feels like someone saw Kieth Flint and made an annoying version of him, can’t stand Yungblood, he’s such a tryhard
Noel is really happy where he is and comes across as happy in all the interviews. He was never like this towards the end of Oasis. Happiness is everything.
I dropped out of the music industry 30 years ago coz I didn't think my perspective belonged there anymore, & I wholeheartedly endorse the message of the trickster. It reminds me of the good old days too, Justin. 😘❤️✌🏼
They represent everything wrong with the music industry today. Both from super rich families and have used that money to get ahead in the industry, honestly couldn’t name the last breakthrough act who isn’t where they are without money and nepotism. Yungblud plays on a facade of being working class, but imagine being a white dude whose parents paid for you to go to a £35,000 a year private secondary school, a £20,000 a year private performing arts college and then calling someone else out as privileged white dude 😬
“Super rich” is an unusual term to use for Matty…I wouldn’t say his parents were A listers 😅 I couldn’t comment on Yungblud as I know very little about him. However, I can say that Matty at least doesn’t pretend to have come from absolutely nothing. And nepotism is an unusual word to use when his parents were in television not the music industry…
Obviously they’re not A List but they’re easily millionaires with connections. Of course his parents are at least both too famous to deny his background so may as well embrace it. That’s one positive on Yungblud, I guess, at least he doesn’t pretend. The fact they played stadium shows with Rolling Stones and Muse before their debut album was even released shows they were backed long before their current huge success. Even if there was work put in on the circuit early on in previous bands the very fact there was literally no jeopardy to failure gives absolute freedom to pursue art without the need to be concerned about things that everyone else does like a job, money, food, shelter etc.
I would say tbf The 1975 don't really reek of nepotism. Healey's parents are D list celebrities at best and the band were together for like ten years or so before they made it big, unlike acts like YB who shot to fame outta nowhere
Really appreciate you calling MH and the crew out here my man. They are very good at sustaining killer sonics and unabashed pop. And I consider Matty as cultured as the grey hmm hmm yourself good sir. High breaches he has to wear to be like Gabriel, Sting, Gilmour and Justin H hmm hmm
Really great video!! Matty Healy is the latest in a long timeline of Mancunian musicians (Peter Hook, Mark E. Smith, Morrissey, Ian Brown & the Gallaghers ) who aren’t afraid to voice their disdain of their contemporaries at all & rightly so. My issue with modern music is that musicians are instead feuding with politicians and not each other, now I fully agree that ALL politicians are deserving of mockery, but as Matty made clear in his parody of Yungblud it’s become establishment opinions amongst musicians and doesn’t really take guts to speak out against what are already established moral issues. For me a lot of the musicians who try and act really political are actually insufferably smug themselves and worth putting down a peg or two and I’m all for it and I think Matty making that stand is far more courageous as that genuinely does take guts as it goes against the new status quo. (I write this not as a 1975 fan, although I liked the last album… and I’ve been critical of Matty being inconsistent in the past but for now good job to him) Ps: I also want to give a shout out to Black Midi who’ve also made a name for themselves slagging off of other musicians but they’re nowhere near as big so won’t get the same kind of attention
Long, long, time ago, I can still remember when the music really could make you dance. In NYC, after hearing you and your band interviewed on k rock, I had to see you. Upon arriving, at the venue, I ran into so many of my music loving friends, so cool. Then I got to witness the most exciting concert of my lifetime. The costumes, the vocals , the fun yous guys were obvi having- sooooo delicious. Now you’re playing with KiISS, I am considering the Norway show. Will you also be playing with KISS in the US?
People find Matty insufferable because he's not afraid to tell how it is, a lot of people don't want to hear how it is. They just want to hide in their little bubble and never be reminded of reality. Which leads them to Yungblood who seems to be the opposite of that and the type I find insufferable. This drama feels like a feud between a Philosopher telling truth and the Kings court jester spreading propaganda lol
So right about him making smoking cool. I don't even like him and I stopped smoking years ago and yet the way he lighted that cigarette, the way he held it in his mouth, goodness... yes please... (but I won't, don't smoke kids).
Matt is a legend. Hes clearly calling out social justice warriors. Yungblood and the lot are following whatever the news calls on them to yap about, whether its lbgtq or ukraine
Justin, please, do not give Yungblud a platform or exposure. Yungblud does NOTHING for rock and metal but embarrass it. The 1975 on a tangent, are awful.
I wish i liked Matty's music. I love his passion and logic. People have tried to find a way to shut Cumtown for the better part of a decade. Now, with the inception of The Adam Friedland show, these fringe new age censorists are going after the guests. Big respect to matty for standing up to cultural tyranny and sending a big "fuck u" to those that scroll through content purly for sound bits to build a cultural case against those they deem offensive or unwilling to play the game of outrage. In comedy and art context is one of the most important aspect of all creative endeavors. Ignoring context has become this bizarre ideology for the purpose of stifling progression.
Wait, this video ended way too quickly, I'd love to listen to more of what you have to say on the subject and perhaps compare it to when everyone seemed to be feuding and taking the piss all the time. I miss those times. I miss when we were capable of discussing music and ideas and society without everyone getting "triggered" all the time and we were capable of nuance and passion and even when people were divided by opinions and beliefs (or Oasis vs Blur) it felt like we were all a part of one good thing, a living organism. Doesn't feel like that these days anymore.
I'm divided on the Oasis reunion. The kid in me wants the concert, but the adult thinks that this might be a waste of precious time. But that Matty is correct, seen the HFB and Liam and an Oasis concert would have been 50 % 60 % no 100% more Fing awesome!
I’d call our “There’s not one person at a High Flying Birds Concert that wouldn’t rather be at an Oasis concert” because I’d be one of them. I’ve seen Oasis twice and both times they were fucking shit because of Liam. First time I thought it was just because he was drunk, second time I realized it didn’t matter how pissed or sober he was - he just sang as badly as Ian Brown. The only reason one of the Oasis gigs was the best I’ve ever been to is because Cornershop opened and changed my fucking perspective of music (Noel joined them on stage, Liam didn’t). I hope Oasis never reform, the world is better without them.
Uncertain it is accurate that there have not been rock star feuds for 20 yrs or so (global rock star peace in our times). Seem to be many vigorously contested ongoing rock feuds that have spanned many a year, notably Roger Waters versus the rest of the Pink Floyd from the '80s to the present day. Trouble for YungBlud's pop-punk is that is what the Buzzcocks did years ago. Trouble for The 1975 is that British pop-rock can be rather parochial and hard to sustain well for more than a year or two internationally at the top.
Brilliant! I don't care if Liam and Noel reform Oasis and play again. Just start being brothers again, get your families together at Christmas and drink some eggnog for God's sake...
Finally something to eat up, but I'm totally on mattys side he's an actual person who speaks his mind like a true rockstar even though I'm aware it's a persona but YOUNGBLOOD IS AN INDUSTRY PLANT 😂😂
Separate one for the questions episode. Please say you’re jumping on the anniversary bandwagon and doing a Permission 20th tour this year? Would love to hear Holding My Own live
He also has a dry sense of humor that's often laced with irony and "meta" exposition. Seems like there's a correlation between people that don't like him and people who don't "get" him. He's doesn't take himself seriously at all when he's in-character. He's just mocking people who do.
Both are insufferable however, although I’m not a fan of 1975 I appreciate Matt Healy is the better songwriter and can back it up with impressive records
That line about standing "against the most morally obvious stuff" gets more profound the more you think about it. And funnier.
He says that but his new show was just a conglomerate of the most "morally obvious", woke, left wing views that he could think of. The hypocrisy is laughable.
@@adambradley4293 but i feel like the whole show was him taking the piss out of that … it’s a weird cycle to get in to, because it sort of acts as criticism of what you are, but it also acts as a safety net for any criticism because you can just say you were already criticising it… but i still think it’s done well, because it hasn’t been done before - but it doesn’t need to be done again (as is the case with all art) which is one of the reasons why Youngblud’s poor knock off of the 1975’s show is so poor
This is the case with a lot of these "politically charged" pop stars (or rather their management teams...), and people in general. You think racism is bad? Wow, what a brave and controversial statement!
@@adambradley4293 yeah, the dude is a massive hypocrite. But he also thinks he's in a revolutionary band when all the songs I hear from them are either just naff, basic pop records or poor knock-offs of stuff that has been done years before (paul simon, vampire weekend etc).
And I have no issue with young, idealistic pop stars with naive, over-simplistic, trendy view points, it's nothing new and their hearts are generally in the right place. I do have an issue with Healy trying to play both sides though.
HAY GUYZ DON'T BE BAD.
I totally agree that you should interview Matty Healy. I’d love to hear you both discuss the notion of the trickster.
Yesss yessss yessss
The trickster. Wow. This blew my mind. I hadn't realised what made me so uncomfortable about feuds between rockstars. Back to the drawing board then. Cheers for that Justin
Thanks!!
Love this stuff, we need people to disrupt and start a conversation at this moment in time. We're in danger of becoming like those bobble head dogs, nodding in the back of a car.
Can we just all take a minute to appreciate the green striped sweater + moustache + glasses +nose piercings combo 🙇
Nope
I was just thinking the same.
Diligence duly done.
Justin could be reviewing wallpaper and I’d still be appreciating all of the above ❤
so true…
Totally agree that it's refreshing for people to say what's on their mind. I don't have to agree with what they say but welcome the freedom to say it
That Oasis rant is absolutely fantastic, love Matt
Matty is pretty tongue & cheek about things and is open about it.
In. Tongue IN cheek. Ffs
@None Ya he's definitely smashing his tongue in a lot of 18 year old girls at his concerts, hah.
@@puscifer10000 I’m from Uganda give me a brake.
@@cody3335 "break"
@@Starkweather133 brake is Ugandan for chance.
love ya Justin, always providing a very nuanced angle on pop culture lol
Justin should get Matty on the show like he did Rick Beato, that would be such a fun interview!
Matty obviously does it with intelligence and a real sense of humour, Yungblud is just embarrassing, like a kid copying
Exactly
They’ll both end up with extra attention and publicity from this, and ultimately income. A smart business move from both sides whether intended or not.
Matt Healy's a nonce though.
@@ThingyRPG I don’t think you know what that word means
@@abbyhuntley3171 Definitely do! 👍
I love your appreciation of Matty - so refreshing!
Right first things first, iv just spent exactly 6 days watching everyone of your "Rides again" videos back to back and literally watched the last one as this was posted so great timing 😀
Send him your hospital (psychiatric) bill.
I love when one brilliant human speaks brilliantly about other brilliant humans. It becomes a positive conversation rather than a bitch-fest. I applaud you sir.
Musician fueds are always comedy gold. GNR vs Nirvana, Oasis vs Blur. Is great to see it make a comeback.
You can tell just from the music that Matty is a lot brighter than YungBlud - and for all his silliness, Matty is probably actually quite a funny and sharp bloke. YungBlud is an industry plant. He’s a product. Matty has already shown him up.
Couldn't agree more.
I mean, after watching the Louis Theroux Interviews episode with YungBlud I tend to lean the same way as you.. banging on about his traumatic upbringing, being working class etc and then cut to a middle class house where the whole family is sat around drinking tea together and it's all really nice..
You clearly have never watched an interview of Yungblud or actually listened to his music and lyrics
@@LenainFarbe you clearly didn't read my comment..
@@ChrisJohnson-ld3wq oh no I have.. and if you actually did you wouldn't say that
When he lit up on stage, it reminded me of, and this is a bit of a pull: does anyone remember that Never Mind The Buzzcocks episode where Simon Amstell was taking the piss out of Donnie Tourette?
"Hold on, Donnie's *smoking* now? A *normal* cigarette that you can *legally buy in shops?* I'll try to carry on, but I am both *shocked and appalled!"*
If we're canceling people who objectify black woman then let's be real. 95% of rap and pop artists would be canceled too. Yet nobody is screaming for their heads.
“I don’t stand for anything I stand against stuff” JEEEEZ Yungblud got fucking sizzled with that line cause it’s so true
Yungblud is a product. His music, thoughts, presentation are all nothing more than what the industry thinks we need and sadly people lap it up. He’s a construct. Matt is saying what’s in his own head, even if it creates friction, you can hear the difference and it makes you want to listen. We’ve made it so easy for people by protecting them from conflict that friction has become an endangered beast, but we need so much more friction, to generate honest conversation, which leads to growth and understanding. I love that managers are thanking each other, just as much as I love Matt creating friction, it’s the balance of the two that we need, to help us form our own thoughts and opinions through the different experiences. We don’t stretch our brains enough anymore and don’t know how to respond to differing opinions without hate, which is dumbing us down.
Typical boomer " it was better in my day. Young people today have it so easy" oooook boomer.
@@harrybirchall3308 just because morons have made similar points about less justifiable subjects, doesnt make this a moronic point by any means. People who moan about cancel culture are indeed morons. But people who bemoan a lack of critical dialogue are the ones who are making a valid and necessary point. Unfortunately, the byproduct of the morons is that the smart people can't make such arguments in good faith without it being tainted by morons on twitter. "without hate" is a key part of the argument here. not a boomer take to want a healthy but challenging discourse. I think that's actually the entire point of this video...
@@lunchb0x1986 Not a boomer (or even close) but very proud to have received my first OK boomer, so thank you!!! You proved my point perfectly :) I didn’t say anyone had it easy, but that challenges have been progressively removed in the last couple of decades, and that means the resilience isn’t there. That’s proven over and over in research. And life’s much tougher now, which is why it’s sad that resilience isn’t there because it’s going to make it much harder for you.
@@harrybirchall3308 My point extends well past the video topic, this relates to every day conversations as much much as this exchange. It’s easier to just label people than to rebut or provide a different point of view in a constructive manner. People are too afraid to say their piece in fear of “cancellation” even in real life, and that’s sad.
Matt Healy is a bellend lol
I've long thought that GnR in their prime was the last truly insane, dangerous rock band. No one knew what Axl might say. No one knew who he might take an (actual, physical) swing at and when. No one knew if there'd be a riot -- it was just "dress appropriately for dodging flying stadium seats." Matt Healy has a RAZOR SHARP bullshit detector, whatever his faults might be, and performative sensitivity and empathy are worthy targets. And geez, that Yungblud imitation is hilarious. Postscript: As much as it pains me to admit, "welcome to your 30s, I guess" is also a pretty sick burn. Gonna use that across decades.
Love him or hate him, Matty Healy is one of the most interesting people in the music world right now, at least in my opinion
Agreed. He’s quite intelligent and you can tell through his music, lyricism, and conceptual ideas in this latest tour. Yungblood totally ripped him off he just really missed the mark.
On the podcast, Matt did Asian hate. I wish that podcast would go away
@@shinxx0055 What did he say
He's a modern day Morrissey with the same attitude but without the actual good songs😂
@@shinxx0055 no, he did jokes. Big difference.
I want to applaud you for showcasing this topic. I love it when we can share our opinions, in a critical way, which argues “ideas”. What I cannot tolerate is “cancel culture”, which demonizes a “person”. Thank you 🙏
Cancel culture is a complete myth perpetuated by the tabloids..
I agree, this whole "cancel" culture thing is just stupid and shows what kind of egos some have. We all have an ego, but some just abuse it for their own agenda.
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What is counsel culture? You don’t even know what this made up nonsense is called haha
Even if you do not agree with Matty or Matthew... you can't argue that its nice to see people in bands having opinions and stirring the pot.
I’m 40 . Healy and the band is a guilty pleasure . Nothing stagnant about their music over time. It’s a rare thing in pop these days. It’s all entertainment with him
Not guilty about it. They have become a great band.
I’m 67. They are so refreshing to an old coot like me. Some of the best songwriting I have ever experienced. ❤
He’s smoked on stage for 10 years mate. It’s his thing. And drinking wine on stage. But now he uses fake wine
Justin & Mr Healey, thank you for my smile & I love your honesty & joy within the alcohol free champagne, now that’s rocknroll
I will say this about matty. i've been a fan of 1975 for a long time. Seen two of their live shows. I may not always agree with his takes, in fairness he's an artist. However, something i've grown to admire is his willingness to use his platform to speak on things he's passionate about. Other people may say, shut up and play the music, but he challenges things with his music and his little pep talks on stage. I kinda dig it. Again, not all the time, but at least it shows he's thinking about things and his place in the world and his impact on others as an artist. I think even deeper what's more admirable, is he's risking his career to say what he feels in his heart and he seems to be trying to be as authentic as he can be. And that's what's cool. He's just being himself. Thanks for covering this. Music drama is cool beans.
I think Matty is brilliant & truly an individual, calling out the BS gimmicks that acts like YungBlud sell their music behind
to be fair Matty is a bit gimmicky too but that's not necessarily a bad thing and I'm here for a petty rivalry lol
Healy is a contrived persona too. It’s all an act and not natural at all.
@@Phuqarf whilst I don't like either of them particularly, I think Healy at least contrives his own image whereas I can imagine YoungBlud being more at the mercy of his label but you could argue what's the difference, splitting hairs really. As far as music rivalries go, it's not exactly a heavyweight battle lol.
dude. his impression of yungblud is spot on
I know what you mean about the cigarette looking pretty good, I quit over 6 months ago(well actually I substituted it with nicotine vape) so I guess quitting wouldn't be an accurate word, but I haven't had even one cigarette since my substitution. I don't miss the cigs as much as I thought I would, but when I see people smoking on tv or video, it's nearly impossible to resist. I was having the same reaction to Healy smoking when you mentioned it.
Yunblud was probably like wow that mat Healy stage bit was soo cool let me do the exact same thing! Can’t stand people like that
If you actually listen to the podcast, Matty says veeeery little. Most of it is the hosts! And then, the whole thing was satire 😂
Yeah, people played it up to make it look like he was racist.
I basically went through my teenage years listening to THE1975(amongst other bands of course,yours included Justin!) and though my feelings wavered from agreement to confusion,I still love the fact my opinions,ideas were somewhat challenged by the artists I listened to.That,among many other things,helped me perceive conflict and disagreement as something rather natural and even fun.Even people I knew who had their prejudices against THE1975`s music,admitted they really liked,in some way or another,what Matty had to say at shows.
He`s polarizing,but for people who follow them,they like that being polarizing is still a possibility.
Yes 🙌
Matty's version of a British accent different to his own is quite impressive
Oh lordy, some of the fueds over the years have been spectacular. This one seems pretty mild in comparison. Often you find out things you either didn't know, or it opens your eyes to truths, sometimes making you look at yourself in a different way.. I dunno I like a bit of dramatics in the music industry.
Matt Healy has straight talking realistic parents, that’s why he’s not conflict averse
It's so cringe how people can't have fun anymore. We are allowed to say stuff without meaning it, and the inverse also applies. If you actually try to use your brain, it is possible to decipher what people mean versus what they don't. Just try to be actually engaged instead of ONLY standing against stuff you agree with. People are so quick to stand against things, but never stand for anything.
It seems a lot of people don't get sarcasm and take everything literally. Or believe what the media says without checking things out for themselves or looking at the context. I enjoy Matty because of the subtletey in his words, but subtlety is a British thing and people in other countries might not get it. Americans rarely do subtlety.
found this quite insightful, it went past just two rockers going at it but also revealed the lack of nuance in today's thinking. Quite brilliant
I cant imagine life as a rockstar who doesnt upset anyone. That would be utterly vanilla
I'd love to see your take on Metric "False Dichotomy," which I heard for the first time tonight. I came to post this before watching this video, and am now fascinated by the odd way that the universe appears to be working. Excellent content as always; thank you!
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Interesting tale of the trickster, all wrapped up in a feud between 2 people I've never heard of before.
I've loved this guy since marshall stacks and Lycra body suits. Been somewhat keeping up ever since but hewvily since the yt channel. And now I get a dose of one of my favorite musicians.
He’s either a massive muppet or an incredible genius and the only way to know for sure is looking at it retrospectively in a few years
Only got introduced to Matt Healy by Nick Mullen and Adam Friedland, but I dig em.
Same goes for you Justin. You're an insane talent that gives me much needed inspiration when needed!
Same here. I listened to the show last week and just laughed I thought they were all just joking around and having fun. If it’s the type of show to offend you then just don’t listen to it.
Same here. Listened to cum town for years and was impressed that he had like encyclopedic knowledge of bits from 2018 lmao
I get that the Japanese exchange officer might be offensive but it's not that bad (also as it turns out there were Japanese exchange officers irl, which is surely much worse), but the period moon thing was so obviously a joke, how can you be offended at that
I’m also gay
Never thought I'd hear Justin Hawkins mention the bug that is Adam
the Yungblud expression is just fuckîng great LMFAOOOOO
Yesss please interview Matty and pick his brain on a few topics. I don’t agree with everything he says, but he backs up his opinions pretty well and he’s quick to call himself out when he’s wrong, too.
First I have ever heard of 1975. I do appreciate the opinion on Oasis and every other similar situation.
You have to be VERY open minded and intelligent to understand Matty
Matty is a super intelligent truth-teller, who seems to have a lot of sincerity; a total breath of fresh air and we need a few more like him.
Super intelligent truth teller...what a world we live in.
@whywhywhy I'm not saying he's always correct, but people who are actually capable of independent thought are becoming more and more rare and we do need opposing views for education, awareness and balance.
He seemes like a groomer not gonna lie
@@archiveSux What are the qualities that make someone look like a groomer? Asking genuinely.
@@biggothepiggo I just get that vibe, nothing else. Additionally, bands that mostly have teenage girls as fandom is always going to give creepy vibes.
Watching Matty Healy:
Gentleman Friend: “That guy gives me the creeps “
Lady Friend: “He must be just my type”
Actually, he is…
🙏🏻💔🙏🏽
Both of them are completely guilty of each other's accusations. Out of the two I'm more in Yungblud's camp, mainly because he reminds me a bit of Billy Idol and I do think he's a decent human being. Have seen him live and he's nuts, he really gives it his all. Really want to hate Matty Healy for what he said, but I think he's also totally right. Dom (yungblud) champions things that are 'morally obvious' and the impression did make me laugh. Perhaps it's all staged to give each other publicity as they tour?
Anyway, I do feel a bit old to be having an opinion in this, it's hardly Robert Smith Vs Morrissey.
Excellent comment!😀I agree. Robert Smith vs Morrissey brought it all home for me.
@@brookehornback1896 team Robert myself lol
@@brookehornback1896 also team Robert. Love The Cure.
I think this jab that Yungblud is championing "obvious" stuff is because of his age; but who doesn't think they know everything at that age? I've seen Yungblud performs too, and I gotta say he's impressive. It's just him, a guitar and a drum. No smoke, not props. It's just him. Like, he really puts himself out there. There's something admirable about that. Who knows? he may be a flash-in-the pan, but he may really have something. He's developing his voice. I don't think it's fair for Matty Healy to mock YB's accent; it seems classist and personal, idk, you English got your own set of stuff around that jazz. But something about Matty Healy feels a bit entitled and his jab at YB kinda rubbed me the wrong way. Graceful thing may have been to just to ignore stuff. But times are changing, so who knows? I mean, feels like a week- a$$ feud in the end.
@@ellenhenderson6865 I doubt it's down to his age because he has a big team around him. I think this is where I agree with Matty. Dom defends what Matty refers to as "morally obvious" as those are issues that are definitely safer to champion- that doesn't mean that the things Dom defends are not important issues- they are jus safer issues, and I guess Matty doesn't find that very punk or rock n' roll. He's making a much bigger point at how contrived and sterile things are in the Music World right now. I interpret the dig at the broad Yorkshire accent as Matty accusing Dom of overdoing, and even cashing in on, his accent and imitating mega stars such as Liam Gallagher, Alex Turner and I'm sure there are others. Dom has borrowed from everyone going, but that's why I like him. He takes elements of so many big artists and groups that people love and melds it into some really good tracks and shows. The Cure, Oasis, Billy Idol, Nirvana , ACDC, The Artic Monkeys, Eminem and even the 1975 themselves, are all major influences on the music he puts out, he's like a walking, talking Juke Box. Matty seems frustrated by the music world and is making it known and I admire this, he seems more original (even if I do find his recent performances a bit pompous and lack luster) he's stirring the pot bigtime. On the Oasis thing, he's hit the nail on the head. Time will tell if he is using this as a guise to mask some of the more worrying and sinister views that people on social media have accused him of.
You really need to do an interview with Matty Healy Justin! I think you guys would have great chemistry
I find really hard to hate Matty, he’s smart as hell.
Right hes just being himself
Dude is very candid
Lots of very smart people are also complete shit heels. Try garnering admiration for people who are smart AND kind and good. Might I suggest Hozier
He’s really not
Never meet your heroes.
matty is fucking brilliant and loud and i love him more than anyone else in the industry
Return of the trickster is great; but I’m damn glad the tour managers have discovered that the most productive relationships are those which are amicable - much like Matty said!
Loved this video! Great points. Kudos ❤
Don't forget Fleetwood Mac & The Eagles, who both had multiple long-running vendettas within their own bands for years. Ironically enough, long after they've made peace / died off, fans who picked a side continue to fight over them years later.
So well put 🙏🏻
Not a fan of either Yungblood or Matty Healy but I don’t know, Matty at least seems to be doing whatever he likes, Yungblood just feels like someone saw Kieth Flint and made an annoying version of him, can’t stand Yungblood, he’s such a tryhard
On point as always Justin! See you on the ice :)
I have been made to love Matty entirely against my own will 😅
Loving your content brother.
Noel is really happy where he is and comes across as happy in all the interviews.
He was never like this towards the end of Oasis.
Happiness is everything.
For a vegan, Justin sure loves beef.
👏👏👏👏👏 I see what you did there.
Nailed it 😂
I dropped out of the music industry 30 years ago coz I didn't think my perspective belonged there anymore, & I wholeheartedly endorse the message of the trickster. It reminds me of the good old days too, Justin. 😘❤️✌🏼
Matty's rebuttal was so good. Yungblud got schooled
Oh absolutely! Matty is too sharp for him
Meh
They represent everything wrong with the music industry today. Both from super rich families and have used that money to get ahead in the industry, honestly couldn’t name the last breakthrough act who isn’t where they are without money and nepotism.
Yungblud plays on a facade of being working class, but imagine being a white dude whose parents paid for you to go to a £35,000 a year private secondary school, a £20,000 a year private performing arts college and then calling someone else out as privileged white dude 😬
“Super rich” is an unusual term to use for Matty…I wouldn’t say his parents were A listers 😅 I couldn’t comment on Yungblud as I know very little about him. However, I can say that Matty at least doesn’t pretend to have come from absolutely nothing. And nepotism is an unusual word to use when his parents were in television not the music industry…
Obviously they’re not A List but they’re easily millionaires with connections. Of course his parents are at least both too famous to deny his background so may as well embrace it. That’s one positive on Yungblud, I guess, at least he doesn’t pretend.
The fact they played stadium shows with Rolling Stones and Muse before their debut album was even released shows they were backed long before their current huge success. Even if there was work put in on the circuit early on in previous bands the very fact there was literally no jeopardy to failure gives absolute freedom to pursue art without the need to be concerned about things that everyone else does like a job, money, food, shelter etc.
@@woodandnailsuk however The 1975 had been a band for ten years before they actually got anywhere with it…
I would say tbf The 1975 don't really reek of nepotism. Healey's parents are D list celebrities at best and the band were together for like ten years or so before they made it big, unlike acts like YB who shot to fame outta nowhere
@@kyanward9065 what are you talking about? Their debut album went to no. 1 when Matt was 23yo. Talking absolute bull lol
Nobody should be cancelled for expressing themselves and sharing their opinion whether you agree with it or not.
Yungblud is such a effing puddin.
Really appreciate you calling MH and the crew out here my man. They are very good at sustaining killer sonics and unabashed pop. And I consider Matty as cultured as the grey hmm hmm yourself good sir. High breaches he has to wear to be like Gabriel, Sting, Gilmour and Justin H hmm hmm
Matty’s impression of Domblud is hilarious
Yes! How refreshing! Great point, Justin!
Really great video!!
Matty Healy is the latest in a long timeline of Mancunian musicians (Peter Hook, Mark E. Smith, Morrissey, Ian Brown & the Gallaghers ) who aren’t afraid to voice their disdain of their contemporaries at all & rightly so.
My issue with modern music is that musicians are instead feuding with politicians and not each other, now I fully agree that ALL politicians are deserving of mockery, but as Matty made clear in his parody of Yungblud it’s become establishment opinions amongst musicians and doesn’t really take guts to speak out against what are already established moral issues.
For me a lot of the musicians who try and act really political are actually insufferably smug themselves and worth putting down a peg or two and I’m all for it and I think Matty making that stand is far more courageous as that genuinely does take guts as it goes against the new status quo.
(I write this not as a 1975 fan, although I liked the last album… and I’ve been critical of Matty being inconsistent in the past but for now good job to him)
Ps: I also want to give a shout out to Black Midi who’ve also made a name for themselves slagging off of other musicians but they’re nowhere near as big so won’t get the same kind of attention
He tries way too hard to be like them lol
You honestly just compared that pretentious pillock to mark e smith? Hes not even mancunian
Long, long, time ago, I can still remember when the music really could make you dance. In NYC, after hearing you and your band interviewed on k rock, I had to see you. Upon arriving, at the venue, I ran into so many of my music loving friends, so cool. Then I got to witness the most exciting concert of my lifetime. The costumes, the vocals , the fun yous guys were obvi having- sooooo delicious. Now you’re playing with KiISS, I am considering the Norway show. Will you also be playing with KISS in the US?
Just when I thought it wasn't possible to dislike either anymore than I do.
Matty is F*ing amazing!
People find Matty insufferable because he's not afraid to tell how it is, a lot of people don't want to hear how it is. They just want to hide in their little bubble and never be reminded of reality. Which leads them to Yungblood who seems to be the opposite of that and the type I find insufferable. This drama feels like a feud between a Philosopher telling truth and the Kings court jester spreading propaganda lol
So right about him making smoking cool. I don't even like him and I stopped smoking years ago and yet the way he lighted that cigarette, the way he held it in his mouth, goodness... yes please... (but I won't, don't smoke kids).
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Matt is a legend. Hes clearly calling out social justice warriors. Yungblood and the lot are following whatever the news calls on them to yap about, whether its lbgtq or ukraine
Being a pain in the mainstream ass is just good fun
That impersonation of Yungblud was spot on 🤣😅
Justin, please, do not give Yungblud a platform or exposure.
Yungblud does NOTHING for rock and metal but embarrass it.
The 1975 on a tangent, are awful.
I wish i liked Matty's music. I love his passion and logic. People have tried to find a way to shut Cumtown for the better part of a decade. Now, with the inception of The Adam Friedland show, these fringe new age censorists are going after the guests. Big respect to matty for standing up to cultural tyranny and sending a big "fuck u" to those that scroll through content purly for sound bits to build a cultural case against those they deem offensive or unwilling to play the game of outrage. In comedy and art context is one of the most important aspect of all creative endeavors. Ignoring context has become this bizarre ideology for the purpose of stifling progression.
Wait, this video ended way too quickly, I'd love to listen to more of what you have to say on the subject and perhaps compare it to when everyone seemed to be feuding and taking the piss all the time. I miss those times. I miss when we were capable of discussing music and ideas and society without everyone getting "triggered" all the time and we were capable of nuance and passion and even when people were divided by opinions and beliefs (or Oasis vs Blur) it felt like we were all a part of one good thing, a living organism. Doesn't feel like that these days anymore.
Did you really once tell Dave Grohl that you had a feud with Motorhead? Would love to see an episode on them in the future.
The David Lee Roth vs Sammy Hagar always feuding who was better was always pretty entertaining
I'm divided on the Oasis reunion. The kid in me wants the concert, but the adult thinks that this might be a waste of precious time. But that Matty is correct, seen the HFB and Liam and an Oasis concert would have been 50 % 60 % no 100% more Fing awesome!
I’d call our “There’s not one person at a High Flying Birds Concert that wouldn’t rather be at an Oasis concert” because I’d be one of them. I’ve seen Oasis twice and both times they were fucking shit because of Liam. First time I thought it was just because he was drunk, second time I realized it didn’t matter how pissed or sober he was - he just sang as badly as Ian Brown. The only reason one of the Oasis gigs was the best I’ve ever been to is because Cornershop opened and changed my fucking perspective of music (Noel joined them on stage, Liam didn’t). I hope Oasis never reform, the world is better without them.
Uncertain it is accurate that there have not been rock star feuds for 20 yrs or so (global rock star peace in our times). Seem to be many vigorously contested ongoing rock feuds that have spanned many a year, notably Roger Waters versus the rest of the Pink Floyd from the '80s to the present day. Trouble for YungBlud's pop-punk is that is what the Buzzcocks did years ago. Trouble for The 1975 is that British pop-rock can be rather parochial and hard to sustain well for more than a year or two internationally at the top.
Brilliant! I don't care if Liam and Noel reform Oasis and play again. Just start being brothers again, get your families together at Christmas and drink some eggnog for God's sake...
his response to liam s boss of time comment was... new nickname unlocked... cheeky sod, gets it from his mum
Finally something to eat up, but I'm totally on mattys side he's an actual person who speaks his mind like a true rockstar even though I'm aware it's a persona but YOUNGBLOOD IS AN INDUSTRY PLANT 😂😂
Separate one for the questions episode. Please say you’re jumping on the anniversary bandwagon and doing a Permission 20th tour this year? Would love to hear Holding My Own live
He also has a dry sense of humor that's often laced with irony and "meta" exposition. Seems like there's a correlation between people that don't like him and people who don't "get" him. He's doesn't take himself seriously at all when he's in-character. He's just mocking people who do.
Your hair looks so nice today Justin. Digging the glasses too.
Just a sidenote, I love how your Grados match the wall, just looks so cool
Great video thanks
if nothing is revealed, everything denied
I have no idea who either of them are
Both are insufferable however, although I’m not a fan of 1975 I appreciate Matt Healy is the better songwriter and can back it up with impressive records