oh my fucking god i decided to watch this before going to sleep. didn't even realise it's 2 hours long until 20 minutes in when I scrolled down to the comments 😂 we've been fed
Context collapse has been such a huge part of Matty’s online existence, and to see the general public miss his points and nuances on multiple topics over and over again…it’s… something to be studied I think.
I really appreciated that he pointed out the shortcomings of the techniques he was using re: posting all manner of ideas on social media. I think it’s logical that within a low-context sphere like twitter, some of his posts (which he may have posted in jest, or ironically, or to showcase a radical idea [positive or negative]) will be interpreted as genuine endorsement. And also, Matty is a fallible individual who makes very public mistakes /within/ the low-context sphere of twitter, despite his good intentions. Posting one of his band’s songs in response to George Floyd’s murder comes to mind, and while yes he did it because he perceived that some of the opinions he had on the subject were already articulated in his artwork, it still came across as a self-promo. Perhaps people are quick to ‘cancel’ folks on social media (see the example Matty gave of the Mumford and Sons banjo player), and we could have a conversation about how cancellation isn’t the same as accountability/learning/growth, but not all critiques are created from within the same low-context vacuum.
And i guess it will be disappointing. At the end of this interview he is so boring and unispired. Suddenly he has issue with other inspired artists who are brave to write honestly and a share real feelings that people relate to. He is planning a boring album about abstract ideas that he read in the book.
That’s a big problem for a lot of people now. People can barely afford to live WITH a full-time job, let alone have enough time, energy, or extra money to spend on creative endeavors. The death of culture starts with preventing people from building the culture.
i really think this convo will resonate so much for anyone who has been impacted by the 1975's art and who has been willing to take it seriously and earnestly. social media's reaction to ATVB/SATVB was maddening to witness, and i love that matty spoke so candidly and in-depth on so many of the ideas the tour explored. it was amazing as a fan to get to discuss all these ideas together in the lead up to shows over the past few years. i hope he feels a lot of pride about the impact his art has had on people bc those kinds of convos and that kind of community is not the norm.
@@alekm5201im sorry if my comment came off exclusionary in any way, i was referencing the large number of people who became aware of him last year or via tiktok who failed to thoughtfully engage with any of his work. i know anyone who’s also entrenched in josh’s work gets this convo too ♥️
45 minutes in and one of the most engaging and interesting conversations about pop culture i've had the pleasure to indulge in. Feeling seen and like my existentialism isn't just mine.
I’m not a native English speaker, but god knows I’ve never paid as much attention in any English class as I did watching this interview 🤣. I love how Matty handles the complicated technical terms, and I do understand The 1975 a bit more through this.And I think that’s part of the reason why The 1975 as a band and Matty Healy as an artist have had such a huge influence on me in terms of art and music, even though I’m only 21 and living on the other side of the world. Matty, if you ever see this comment, hope you feel the love all the way from China❤❤❤❤
This is the most culturally relevant discussion I have heard for a very long time. Props to Prof. Healy for enumerating these pressing issues, I look forward to the forthcoming album.
He has a bright mind. Someone should do like a collage or short film with all his interviews, his takes on everything are so interesting and insightful. He's not for everybody and that's a positive thing. Let the people who wanna listen appreciate him
This video is kind of blowing my mind. I'm a professor, and in the last six months, our marketing team has expanded and begun to push out multiple posts a day on several platforms. I've started to get the eerie feeling that our college only exists to create content for the marketing team. This conversation also reminds me of how we recently watched a performance in class of Luigi Russolo's Futurist composition with 16 noise intoners and how this composition and instruments from 1913 seemed so ahead of where we are in 2024. Thanks for the thought provoking discussion. I'll definitely be showing this in my next class!
Sorry, but Id be incredibly irritated if I paid exorbitant fees to attend a class that played HOURS of Matty Healy (of all possible people) simply shedding their opinion of society in the broadest possible terms. What specific class would this not only be applicable, but also the best possible source material actually available?
This was a great discussion. I'm not a huge 1975 fan, but I genuinely don't understand how people can say they're not talented. They're one of the most interesting band of the last couple of decades imo, and Healy deserves a huge amount of credit for that. He's not just making enjoyable pop music, but also giving it a purpose and communicate something of substance. Some bands have a good message, others make good music, very few do both.
Matty was born in a wealthy family and had enough privilage to work on music without immediate success. They make good music, but the way he speaks about culture and music is unbearable. He talks down on people, i dont know why people are impressed by his word salads
@@joannapaw4040 The lack of empathy and a willingness to listen to wealthy children needs to be studied. He was pretentious 10 years ago. He's matured, he's not trying to offend anyone. He thinks a lot and struggles to be articulate; You people claim it "presumptuous", when you can literally see the gears turning in his head. Nothing is ever good for you, people, is it? "This female artist is too feminine, this male artist is too arrogant, this artist needs to stop talking like this, pop artists need to talk about something, oh matty healy is trying to start a conversation, he's rich so how dare he"
@@joannapaw4040 And why are you even here?? You know how much a miserable person you need to be to watch something, worse, SOMEONE, you dislike in your own free time, on the internet?
@@spider-woman9482 I just think he is good musician, writes beautiful melodies, has nice voice, stage presence, this whole talking on podcasts and talking down on his fans is not necessary. It ruins him in my opinion. For sure, his band looses opportunities, because of his stupid behaviour.
I discovered The 1975 by accident and never looked back. I love how this band just do what they do and offer something different. Thank you for having Matty on your podcast. I know he's been resistant on doing on camera interviews. He clearly felt comfortable and safe to share his ideas and thoughts. Well done! ❤
Almost like OASIS PAID HIM, because they understand how to make something go viral. He’s literally TELLING all that in this video. Seriously, ya’ll are all BAMBOOZLED.
@@jnnx I actually understand every word Matty’s saying here. If Oasis have been paying him, they’ve been paying him for about a decade because he’s been on bout their split for that long. 😂
wish this was an entire semester long. would be so fun to listen to him talk about and discuss art one a week. these topics makes me think more deeply on the shit i post online and how i listen to music
Warning: annoying anecdote incoming. Matty Healy’s dad, Tim Healy (from Newcastle) looks remarkably like my dad (also from Newcastle which is important because people from Newcastle have a really strong regional accent) and once an elderly woman asked my dad for an autograph and when my dad said oh I’m not Tim Healy she got really angry with him because she was convinced he was lying and didn’t want to give the autograph and chewed him out by saying ‘you think you’re such a big man but it’s fans like me that got you where you are, don’t forget where you’re from!!’ Was a story in our family for years. Also sweet podcast so far, been loving it
never heard of healy until he dated taylor swift, didnt really get it, but now i see why she was crazy about him. he's actually intelligent and thoughtful. Great, thought provoking podcast. Thanks for providing an alternative to red-pilling podcasts
My god, what a valuable piece of media. With my very limited attention span i assumed that i would have to force myself to watch this whole thing but cant belive i made it till the end. Thank you for your conversation.
I've always viewed this guy as reasonably intelligent, but he proves here just how clever, articulate and media literate he really is. A very enjoyable listen, thank you Joshua and Matty :)
Big Josh fan. Was a huge fan of Matty's work like a decade ago, really connected with the first 1975 album and then fell off in interest after the second album. Primed to really dislike Matty from recent controversies he was involved in but was so pleasantly surprised with the things the two of you chatted about here, to the point where I started to really think about the 1975's debut album again and all the things in it I connected with. Excellent conversation, loved it so much, so glad I listened to the whole thing. Keep going Matty, love the path you're on.
doomscroll has quickly become my fav podcast ever and my jaw DROPPED when i saw this released bc Marty Healy is probably one of the best guests for the kind of discussions happening here. unbelievably great conversation - absolutely loved the Mark Fischer bits and convo abt subcultures and music distribution. just so much to think abt. :D
This is such a wonderful eye opening discussion and I am only half way through the video. I urge everyone to listen to what they are saying. Completely encapsulates the feelings I have been having lately but unable to put to words.
In a nutshell they’re saying what a lot of people are saying. Life is becoming very isolated, very hollow, and culture as we know it is ceasing to exist in favor of ad revenue and financial gain. It feels dystopian and it’s preventing people from having any aspiration since there is no more “future” to work towards.
I've never watched this podcast before but this interview was fantastic and didn't dull for a second. Both Matty and the host had a really great back and forth and are so deeply intelligent and observant and were so bang on about where we're at now culturally and artistically speaking as someone who's worked in that field and become completely disenfranchised with it because of all these things I couldn't quite put a name to before. Genuinely shocked this channel only has 21k subs. Subscribed.
honestly i learned at least 7 new terms and concepts about pop culture and art from this in the first 45 mins and im elated. a lot of the art talk was way over my head as a scientist who only consumes music casually but it was rly illuminating. i am using very rusty parts of my brain to comprehend the sociocultural discourse here and it was really great
So glad that you're making music you're genuinely interested in, Matty! I appreciate resisting the status quo of what people might expect (like a response to the recent drama). At the end of the day music is your work, and working in a job you're passionate about is way more impactful with the audience than just doing whatever is trendy. Cheers 🎉
no one can ever make me hate Matty Healy. HE has always BEEN that guy. I watched an interview of him in early 2010s where he talked about how much inspiration he drew from John Hughes' films for their first album. He was so impressive & articulate about pop culture & how he wants their music from that first album to capture that same essence of youth, innocence and insecurities of being an adolescent in America in the 80s. So, seeing this interview doesn't surprise me how incredibly eloquent, well-informed, and passionate he is about all these current social issues. great interview!
Such a good video! I've just became a teacher and I've noticed that so many children don't identify with anything anymore. I often ask my students about their favourite music/movies and they don't have any - they "just watch Tik Tok". It's honestly sad to see.
What a stimulating discussion, cultural time has stopped, we live in an infinite airport (horrible), social media doesn’t feel good, great stuff Mr Healy, and hope what you do helps create the new music! 🎵 🎶
Genuinely, genuinely loved this conversation. I loved the expounding on topics Matty has explored in his work (because I always love hearing the way his mind works first hand) but I found it a little funny how often he would rephrase and explain things for "his fans". I know it can be loud online, but I would say the core following have been having intentional conversations about these very topics and schools of thought for years. Anyway, very into this. Hopeful that people outside the fandom will watch and gain a better understanding of who he is as an artist.
Matty if you‘re reading the comments I just wanted to thank you for staying true to your art. Nowadays even good music feels lifeless sometimes because people have lost the true core of what music is about. Besides The Smiths you‘re the only band that made me sort of understand why music is such an incredible form of expression. You are a gem in the music industry and I know already that your next Album will help me tolerate this strange postmodern world a bit more. xxx
@@loloina i'm kidding, but just no. I'm not a huge fan of The Smiths, i mean i love There is a Light That Never Goes Out as much as the next man, but they are a proper band from the times when things were real and not edited to death in a timeline in logic. This 1975 stuff is ok, but i think it's like Billy Eilish or Taylor Swift ok. Well constructed pop music. Not that i'm against editing, but if you're going to edit like that be more Autechre about it - something has to be misused or it's nothing.
@@ephre Thanks for your reply! I can see your point. But I wouldn‘t categorise the 1975 in the pop music genre. They are definitely more alternative to me. You definitely can‘t compare them to Taylor or Billie in my opinion. All their songs are so unique and form such a well rounded album which is something that os quite rare nowadays
Wow I'm sorta a 1975 fan but Matt Healy always got my attention and it's crazy how these topics are on my mind a lot, and we're two different people without knowing each other but still think about these topics in our minds? great video!
I love to hear Matty yapping about anything but especially this conscious analysis of art in association with the media. Such a great and interesting interview🙌🏼 Btw I'm so excited for the upcoming album
I was at the Charlotte show when you performed the sponsored apology. It was so comical and so sharply crafted. Love you Matty (even though I know you don’t like people on the internet telling you that)❤️
Hearing Matty speak reminds me of the creative and intellectual aspects of Richey Edwards. But as Matty has grown older, he's even more mature, well rounded, and well spoken than Richey ever was. What an excellent interview.
Such great ideas and theories were explored in this video, I did not know that Matty Healy had this almost academic side to him, and his perspective as an artist was super insightful to the discussion! Definitely subscribing
On the basis of being young-ish males only? When Matty (who's not even traditionally attractive) is the absolute best looking of literally all of his guests thus far, Id say this argument is a bit of a stretch.
you all said so many things I always valued and tried to express but almost never could (and my friends wouldn't understand)! e.g: "content vs art" "the flattening out of all human experience" "short term pleasure vs long term satifaction"
A crossover I could not have anticipated, as someone who is politically and culturally invested in the viewpoints of both Josh and Matty, this is so cool to start tethering those neurones together
wouldn't normally comment on this but you guys touched on a lot of things i've been feeling/thinking about in art and that relate a lot to my personal practices. Specifically with things that have been hindering art I've made, or have been trying to make. The main reason I wanted to comment was because I genuinely found what you both had to say massively inspiring and I'd really like you to know that
We can all appreciate Matty and the 1975 for not pulling from their personal lives too much. They aren’t interested in creating tabloids through lyrics, they want to create a conversation that is relatable on a deeper level. He wants to start interesting conversations, not gossip.
sure, he is so superior to others.... He is a poser. He just try to Lelture his audience using smart words. Any concept he talked about was created by others Its cool he read some book, sure he can share it, but kids, stop thinking he was the author. I dont know how his fans dont see it. He called paps on himself (or his fiance did). They want to be famous as any other celeb, they live in LA.
Its not about pulling music from personal lives to create tabloid stories. Music is better when it resonates with people, because its honest and real, if he wants to just pretend a smart guy it wont be relatable.
Matty is a very much an captivating intellectual and he really carries his conversation so well. Thanks Matty it's a joy to listen to you 🫂 Hugs from South Carolina 🌙🌴 CCNB Amphitheater in my hometown is welcoming y'all with open arms ❤
Ugh finally got a dose of Matty and his brilliant mind :) we miss you Matty ❤ last time u spoke u talked about oasis reuniting and lo and behold it happened 😂
I'm only a few minutes in this but this is already such a good interview. Speaks a lot about his fandom vs that outside perception of non fans and stands of other fandoms ahem ahem about literalism. Veryyy interesting discourse
Amazing discussion, Matty and Josh! I’m trying to take it all in😌 As you mentioned, Matty, It is reassuring to hear you speak so clearly and passionately about your interests. Since the tour ended, we’ve only had IMSSS -gorgeous but haunting.
babe wake up, two hour long matty healy interview just dropped
BABE. I JUST GOT HERE. I love him so much. He's so pretentious 🤣
came here to comment this😂
oh my fucking god i decided to watch this before going to sleep. didn't even realise it's 2 hours long until 20 minutes in when I scrolled down to the comments 😂 we've been fed
I’m so here for it.
Babe 🤮
Context collapse has been such a huge part of Matty’s online existence, and to see the general public miss his points and nuances on multiple topics over and over again…it’s… something to be studied I think.
Absolutely agree!
This!
I really appreciated that he pointed out the shortcomings of the techniques he was using re: posting all manner of ideas on social media. I think it’s logical that within a low-context sphere like twitter, some of his posts (which he may have posted in jest, or ironically, or to showcase a radical idea [positive or negative]) will be interpreted as genuine endorsement. And also, Matty is a fallible individual who makes very public mistakes /within/ the low-context sphere of twitter, despite his good intentions. Posting one of his band’s songs in response to George Floyd’s murder comes to mind, and while yes he did it because he perceived that some of the opinions he had on the subject were already articulated in his artwork, it still came across as a self-promo. Perhaps people are quick to ‘cancel’ folks on social media (see the example Matty gave of the Mumford and Sons banjo player), and we could have a conversation about how cancellation isn’t the same as accountability/learning/growth, but not all critiques are created from within the same low-context vacuum.
People are stupid and too literal.
we are so unbelievably back
Now we just need a new The 1975 album
WEHOOO
@@kevinthomas4510 Only gonna be another 2 year wait 😅
And i guess it will be disappointing. At the end of this interview he is so boring and unispired. Suddenly he has issue with other inspired artists who are brave to write honestly and a
share real feelings that people relate to. He is planning a boring album about abstract ideas that he read in the book.
@joanah4262 you might have been born far too late. Or maybe to early. In any case, try some self awareness
The irony of this interview being interrupted by ads every 30 seconds is not lost on me lol
how does someone without ublock even find this channel?
@@knight_lautrec_of_carimThey are watching it on their phone?
@@jnnx UA-cam Vanced baby!!
Pay for UA-cam premium you PMC
Switch to the Brave browser.
Two hours of matty yapping let’s goo
I’m here for it
Me too
The idea that back in the day you could work in coffee and then pursue your art and STILL live comfortably… Very thought provoking.
That’s a big problem for a lot of people now. People can barely afford to live WITH a full-time job, let alone have enough time, energy, or extra money to spend on creative endeavors. The death of culture starts with preventing people from building the culture.
yes, for example it made me think "is that even true? that doesn't sound true"
Lol ye @@charley7953
“my instagram feed now is just mentally unwell people expressing themselves in different ways”
Isn't that everyone's Instagram's feed?
100%
Not now babe.. 4pm 2.5hr lecture with professor healy just dropped
Is he losing his accent
@@Abby-hf9sxno
This fucking dude. Iol why do we fall for these no it all's!! Why women, why??? 😅😂
i really think this convo will resonate so much for anyone who has been impacted by the 1975's art and who has been willing to take it seriously and earnestly. social media's reaction to ATVB/SATVB was maddening to witness, and i love that matty spoke so candidly and in-depth on so many of the ideas the tour explored. it was amazing as a fan to get to discuss all these ideas together in the lead up to shows over the past few years. i hope he feels a lot of pride about the impact his art has had on people bc those kinds of convos and that kind of community is not the norm.
I never got into The 1975, but I found this conversation really interesting in the broader context of Joshua Citerellas work with this podcast
@@alekm5201im sorry if my comment came off exclusionary in any way, i was referencing the large number of people who became aware of him last year or via tiktok who failed to thoughtfully engage with any of his work. i know anyone who’s also entrenched in josh’s work gets this convo too ♥️
Exactly, especially when TS was in the picture, and after she left. Talk about an unexpected crossover (of fandoms)
agreeeeeee 100%
Oh it's a good day to be a 1975 fan
Long-form Matty Healy interview is all I wanted from pop culture for the last year.
“Authenticity is now a commodity” so true
45 minutes in and one of the most engaging and interesting conversations about pop culture i've had the pleasure to indulge in. Feeling seen and like my existentialism isn't just mine.
2.5 hours of Matty Healy talking about art and culture? Yes please
I’m not a native English speaker, but god knows I’ve never paid as much attention in any English class as I did watching this interview 🤣. I love how Matty handles the complicated technical terms, and I do understand The 1975 a bit more through this.And I think that’s part of the reason why The 1975 as a band and Matty Healy as an artist have had such a huge influence on me in terms of art and music, even though I’m only 21 and living on the other side of the world.
Matty, if you ever see this comment, hope you feel the love all the way from China❤❤❤❤
This is the most culturally relevant discussion I have heard for a very long time. Props to Prof. Healy for enumerating these pressing issues, I look forward to the forthcoming album.
I fucking love Matty Healy. We’re fucking back
Yesss. He has some words, Let’s Go
I fucking love him too..... Am really wanting to hear a conversation between him and Russel Brand
Back? When did you put your miles in with the band? You are new here.
He has a bright mind. Someone should do like a collage or short film with all his interviews, his takes on everything are so interesting and insightful. He's not for everybody and that's a positive thing. Let the people who wanna listen appreciate him
The amount of times I just sat there nodding and agreeing with everything said here is astounding. This was such a cathartic listen.
MATTY WE MISSED YOU!! You are such a gift to this world 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
This video is kind of blowing my mind. I'm a professor, and in the last six months, our marketing team has expanded and begun to push out multiple posts a day on several platforms. I've started to get the eerie feeling that our college only exists to create content for the marketing team. This conversation also reminds me of how we recently watched a performance in class of Luigi Russolo's Futurist composition with 16 noise intoners and how this composition and instruments from 1913 seemed so ahead of where we are in 2024. Thanks for the thought
provoking discussion. I'll definitely be showing this in my next class!
Sorry, but Id be incredibly irritated if I paid exorbitant fees to attend a class that played HOURS of Matty Healy (of all possible people) simply shedding their opinion of society in the broadest possible terms. What specific class would this not only be applicable, but also the best possible source material actually available?
He is really pointing out some important stuff here, so great to see a popstar who is actually educated and open-minded
This was a great discussion. I'm not a huge 1975 fan, but I genuinely don't understand how people can say they're not talented. They're one of the most interesting band of the last couple of decades imo, and Healy deserves a huge amount of credit for that. He's not just making enjoyable pop music, but also giving it a purpose and communicate something of substance. Some bands have a good message, others make good music, very few do both.
Matty was born in a wealthy family and had enough privilage to work on music without immediate success. They make good music, but the way he speaks about culture and music is unbearable. He talks down on people, i dont know why people are impressed by his word salads
@@joannapaw4040 The lack of empathy and a willingness to listen to wealthy children needs to be studied. He was pretentious 10 years ago. He's matured, he's not trying to offend anyone. He thinks a lot and struggles to be articulate; You people claim it "presumptuous", when you can literally see the gears turning in his head.
Nothing is ever good for you, people, is it? "This female artist is too feminine, this male artist is too arrogant, this artist needs to stop talking like this, pop artists need to talk about something, oh matty healy is trying to start a conversation, he's rich so how dare he"
@@joannapaw4040 And why are you even here?? You know how much a miserable person you need to be to watch something, worse, SOMEONE, you dislike in your own free time, on the internet?
@@spider-woman9482 I just think he is good musician, writes beautiful melodies, has nice voice, stage presence, this whole talking on podcasts and talking down on his fans is not necessary. It ruins him in my opinion. For sure, his band looses opportunities, because of his stupid behaviour.
@@spider-woman9482 i dont see him matured at all. He made a lot of mess in 2023, it's quite recent
I discovered The 1975 by accident and never looked back. I love how this band just do what they do and offer something different. Thank you for having Matty on your podcast. I know he's been resistant on doing on camera interviews. He clearly felt comfortable and safe to share his ideas and thoughts. Well done! ❤
I am legitimately crying a happy tear to get to listen in on this conversation.
Thank you for uploading.
The man who helped get OASIS back together..😂❤
He absolutely manifested that.
Almost like OASIS PAID HIM, because they understand how to make something go viral. He’s literally TELLING all that in this video. Seriously, ya’ll are all BAMBOOZLED.
@@jnnx Omg if that was what happened I'd have such a giggle.
Yes! He absolutely did.
@@jnnx I actually understand every word Matty’s saying here. If Oasis have been paying him, they’ve been paying him for about a decade because he’s been on bout their split for that long. 😂
wish this was an entire semester long. would be so fun to listen to him talk about and discuss art one a week. these topics makes me think more deeply on the shit i post online and how i listen to music
i have been stuck on a project for a while and haven’t felt so inspired and unblocked in ages. thank you for this i really mean that
Warning: annoying anecdote incoming.
Matty Healy’s dad, Tim Healy (from Newcastle) looks remarkably like my dad (also from Newcastle which is important because people from Newcastle have a really strong regional accent) and once an elderly woman asked my dad for an autograph and when my dad said oh I’m not Tim Healy she got really angry with him because she was convinced he was lying and didn’t want to give the autograph and chewed him out by saying ‘you think you’re such a big man but it’s fans like me that got you where you are, don’t forget where you’re from!!’
Was a story in our family for years.
Also sweet podcast so far, been loving it
never heard of healy until he dated taylor swift, didnt really get it, but now i see why she was crazy about him. he's actually intelligent and thoughtful. Great, thought provoking podcast. Thanks for providing an alternative to red-pilling podcasts
My god, what a valuable piece of media. With my very limited attention span i assumed that i would have to force myself to watch this whole thing but cant belive i made it till the end. Thank you for your conversation.
Irony aside this is some of the best social critique I have heard in a very long time
You need to read some good media literacy books. Neil Postman was talking about some these ideas 30-40 years ago.
Finally, a man of refined taste.
I've always viewed this guy as reasonably intelligent, but he proves here just how clever, articulate and media literate he really is. A very enjoyable listen, thank you Joshua and Matty :)
I truly cannot overstate how excited I am for this!
Big Josh fan.
Was a huge fan of Matty's work like a decade ago, really connected with the first 1975 album and then fell off in interest after the second album.
Primed to really dislike Matty from recent controversies he was involved in but was so pleasantly surprised with the things the two of you chatted about here, to the point where I started to really think about the 1975's debut album again and all the things in it I connected with.
Excellent conversation, loved it so much, so glad I listened to the whole thing. Keep going Matty, love the path you're on.
just burnt the fuck out of my grilled cheese because i was too busy being mesmerized by this interview
doomscroll has quickly become my fav podcast ever and my jaw DROPPED when i saw this released bc Marty Healy is probably one of the best guests for the kind of discussions happening here. unbelievably great conversation - absolutely loved the Mark Fischer bits and convo abt subcultures and music distribution. just so much to think abt. :D
36:20 The ad placement after he says everything has become content for ad views is perfect
Matty Healy is a great person and I could listen to him talk for hours
He’s a terrible person but I still love listening to him yap 😂 the bad ones are always the most fun 😭
@@leahj361what’d he do?
thank you for having matty, we missed him
Matty’s art gives me so much to reflect on. Cannot wait for whatever this next album is and now very interested in this podcast!!
This is such a wonderful eye opening discussion and I am only half way through the video. I urge everyone to listen to what they are saying. Completely encapsulates the feelings I have been having lately but unable to put to words.
In a nutshell they’re saying what a lot of people are saying. Life is becoming very isolated, very hollow, and culture as we know it is ceasing to exist in favor of ad revenue and financial gain. It feels dystopian and it’s preventing people from having any aspiration since there is no more “future” to work towards.
I feel so privileged to know about everything they're referencing and understand everything they're talking about, I love learning
I've never watched this podcast before but this interview was fantastic and didn't dull for a second. Both Matty and the host had a really great back and forth and are so deeply intelligent and observant and were so bang on about where we're at now culturally and artistically speaking as someone who's worked in that field and become completely disenfranchised with it because of all these things I couldn't quite put a name to before. Genuinely shocked this channel only has 21k subs. Subscribed.
honestly i learned at least 7 new terms and concepts about pop culture and art from this in the first 45 mins and im elated. a lot of the art talk was way over my head as a scientist who only consumes music casually but it was rly illuminating. i am using very rusty parts of my brain to comprehend the sociocultural discourse here and it was really great
So glad that you're making music you're genuinely interested in, Matty! I appreciate resisting the status quo of what people might expect (like a response to the recent drama). At the end of the day music is your work, and working in a job you're passionate about is way more impactful with the audience than just doing whatever is trendy. Cheers 🎉
no one can ever make me hate Matty Healy. HE has always BEEN that guy. I watched an interview of him in early 2010s where he talked about how much inspiration he drew from John Hughes' films for their first album. He was so impressive & articulate about pop culture & how he wants their music from that first album to capture that same essence of youth, innocence and insecurities of being an adolescent in America in the 80s. So, seeing this interview doesn't surprise me how incredibly eloquent, well-informed, and passionate he is about all these current social issues. great interview!
2 and a half hours of Matty Healy talking about the internet? Life is worth living
Such a good video! I've just became a teacher and I've noticed that so many children don't identify with anything anymore. I often ask my students about their favourite music/movies and they don't have any - they "just watch Tik Tok". It's honestly sad to see.
What a stimulating discussion, cultural time has stopped, we live in an infinite airport (horrible), social media doesn’t feel good, great stuff Mr Healy, and hope what you do helps create the new music! 🎵 🎶
2.5hrs of matty calling us idiots and translating complex topics to us… we’re so back
That was my thought 😂
If that's what you think he's doing then maybe you really are one?? 😂
@@eh2396 One cannot deny the elitist and derogatory stance taken by these two gentlemen in the video.
@@JohnGaltHasArrived 🤓🤡
@@eh2396 Which one is which?
Never heard of Matt Healy before and this interview has been a pleasant surprise so far
Man… this entire podcast series is absolutely fantastic!
Amazing job Joshua! :)
This was such a refreshing listen. Some days I think I’m losing my mind noticing all of these nuances.
Genuinely, genuinely loved this conversation. I loved the expounding on topics Matty has explored in his work (because I always love hearing the way his mind works first hand) but I found it a little funny how often he would rephrase and explain things for "his fans". I know it can be loud online, but I would say the core following have been having intentional conversations about these very topics and schools of thought for years. Anyway, very into this. Hopeful that people outside the fandom will watch and gain a better understanding of who he is as an artist.
Very much agree
I think he intended it more as a way of humbling himself as Josh's guest, but I agree that framing was a bit strange.
@LukeLavablade he's being inclusive and inviting his fans into the conversation, and I love that! Its very sweet. It just made me giggle every time!
Not him using Phoebe Buffet of Friends as an example 😂 Love this man’s mind so much
Late stage social media and the cilantro app are the most hopeful and hilarious things that I needed to hear in this moment. Thanks guys!
Matty if you‘re reading the comments I just wanted to thank you for staying true to your art. Nowadays even good music feels lifeless sometimes because people have lost the true core of what music is about. Besides The Smiths you‘re the only band that made me sort of understand why music is such an incredible form of expression. You are a gem in the music industry and I know already that your next Album will help me tolerate this strange postmodern world a bit more. xxx
I listened to The 1975 after reading this. You are objectively wrong.
In what way this guy has remained true to anything?
@@ephre how? Explain I‘d like to know your take?
@@loloina i'm kidding, but just no. I'm not a huge fan of The Smiths, i mean i love There is a Light That Never Goes Out as much as the next man, but they are a proper band from the times when things were real and not edited to death in a timeline in logic. This 1975 stuff is ok, but i think it's like Billy Eilish or Taylor Swift ok. Well constructed pop music.
Not that i'm against editing, but if you're going to edit like that be more Autechre about it - something has to be misused or it's nothing.
@@ephre Thanks for your reply! I can see your point. But I wouldn‘t categorise the 1975 in the pop music genre. They are definitely more alternative to me. You definitely can‘t compare them to Taylor or Billie in my opinion. All their songs are so unique and form such a well rounded album which is something that os quite rare nowadays
"Showing people WHO YOU ARE through your fandom" was an incredible phrase
genuinely so happy to see Matty looking well. we need the solo and/or 1975 electronica album mate !
Wow I'm sorta a 1975 fan but Matt Healy always got my attention and it's crazy how these topics are on my mind a lot, and we're two different people without knowing each other but still think about these topics in our minds? great video!
I’ve never sat through a 2.5 hr discussion like this before, but this was captivating. Got a new follower, looking forward to what comes next.
this is the most inspiring life-changing interview I've watched in a while
I love to hear Matty yapping about anything but especially this conscious analysis of art in association with the media. Such a great and interesting interview🙌🏼
Btw I'm so excited for the upcoming album
I was at the Charlotte show when you performed the sponsored apology. It was so comical and so sharply crafted. Love you Matty (even though I know you don’t like people on the internet telling you that)❤️
GOOD MORNING GUYS
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Alternative as in they have gone to Hot Topic” - I love this already.
Yep, this conversation is going into the reading list for students who take my course on pop culture next sem.
Hearing Matty speak reminds me of the creative and intellectual aspects of Richey Edwards. But as Matty has grown older, he's even more mature, well rounded, and well spoken than Richey ever was. What an excellent interview.
Ikr ?!
So nice to see #MattyHealy feeling comfortable and open in a conversation. Can't wait for new music!
Interesting discussion, love to hear Matty chatting about music, culture, social media and the internet. Adore The 1975❤
I could probably listen to AT LEAST another 2-3 hours of this
Such great ideas and theories were explored in this video, I did not know that Matty Healy had this almost academic side to him, and his perspective as an artist was super insightful to the discussion! Definitely subscribing
Great conversation. Can't help but notice that Joshua likes having guests who are attractive young men
On the basis of being young-ish males only? When Matty (who's not even traditionally attractive) is the absolute best looking of literally all of his guests thus far, Id say this argument is a bit of a stretch.
@@LD-tn6ff LOL, I'd love to see you to share this comment directly with Yung Chomsky. Also, please let Jreg know that he is now "young-ish" at 27.
you all said so many things I always valued and tried to express but almost never could (and my friends wouldn't understand)!
e.g: "content vs art"
"the flattening out of all human experience"
"short term pleasure vs long term satifaction"
I certainly don’t agree with everything Matty says but I truly enjoy him and how well he articulates his thoughts.
so happy to hear from him!!! so excited to tune into this thank you guys so much!!
What a great conversation 🙌🏻
". . . art used to be less of a mirror and more of a door that we opened," BRAVOS.
A crossover I could not have anticipated, as someone who is politically and culturally invested in the viewpoints of both Josh and Matty, this is so cool to start tethering those neurones together
I love conversations / interviews with matty. Always so engaging.
wouldn't normally comment on this but you guys touched on a lot of things i've been feeling/thinking about in art and that relate a lot to my personal practices. Specifically with things that have been hindering art I've made, or have been trying to make. The main reason I wanted to comment was because I genuinely found what you both had to say massively inspiring and I'd really like you to know that
We can all appreciate Matty and the 1975 for not pulling from their personal lives too much. They aren’t interested in creating tabloids through lyrics, they want to create a conversation that is relatable on a deeper level. He wants to start interesting conversations, not gossip.
sure, he is so superior to others.... He is a poser. He just try to Lelture his audience using smart words. Any concept he talked about was created by others Its cool he read some book, sure he can share it, but kids, stop thinking he was the author. I dont know how his fans dont see it. He called paps on himself (or his fiance did). They want to be famous as any other celeb, they live in LA.
when do you get a good matt healy/1975 interview?
Its not about pulling music from personal lives to create tabloid stories. Music is better when it resonates with people, because its honest and real, if he wants to just pretend a smart guy it wont be relatable.
This was an amazing conversation. We all need each other more than ever. Also: read everything Byung Chul Han is writing.
hell yeah two hours of this man, i love him so bad
2 and a half hours of Matty yapping, I’m so glad
we are so back and I am seated
Matty is a very much an captivating intellectual and he really carries his conversation so well. Thanks Matty it's a joy to listen to you 🫂 Hugs from South Carolina 🌙🌴 CCNB Amphitheater in my hometown is welcoming y'all with open arms ❤
so many points touched on that i believe we've all been feeling but unable to articulate, it really is a strange ffing time to be alive
What an insightful man. You both are. Great episodes so far, I'm loving the podcast.
Never really been into the 1975 but love this podcast, super interesting chat! Totally going to have a geez at your music now
Start with "A Brief Inquiry Into Online Relationships"
Reading these comments and not having to go to war to defend matty is so refreshing
What a great interview! One of my favorite music artist! ❤️
Ugh finally got a dose of Matty and his brilliant mind :) we miss you Matty ❤ last time u spoke u talked about oasis reuniting and lo and behold it happened 😂
matty, you move me to tears. thank you for sharing more of your brain with us
Matty.. that 10 years of BTS footage you have. Please make it into a movie or documentary. I bet it's so beautiful ❤
Incredible conversation. Very well articulated ideas and concepts
I'm only a few minutes in this but this is already such a good interview. Speaks a lot about his fandom vs that outside perception of non fans and stands of other fandoms ahem ahem about literalism. Veryyy interesting discourse
Amazing discussion, Matty and Josh! I’m trying to take it all in😌 As you mentioned, Matty, It is reassuring to hear you speak so clearly and passionately about your interests. Since the tour ended, we’ve only had IMSSS -gorgeous but haunting.