Voice Teacher Reacts to Kpop Idols WORST vs. BEST Live Vocals
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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Hi! Before you rip me apart please read this. If your comment isn't addressed I'd love to hear it.
1. I know Hong Kong and South Korea are different places. I lived in Hong Kong for 18 months. What I was so poorly trying to refer to in the video was how I worked with a lot of clients on KPOP. I misspoke.
2. Compressors and auto-tune are completely different things. I was not talking about auto-tune, I was talking about compressors. Compressors are often used in live and studio environments. They are not a bad thing, they are a good thing. I thought that singer was fine in both clips.
3. I don't know everything, but I have spent an enormous amount of time learning what I know. I am actually a professional voice teacher. My students make progress every lesson. I'm not perfect but I'm always trying to learn.
Thank you for watching!
Don't worry, it was a great video!
Please watch infinite!!!
pls watch Super Junior ISLANDS
Thank you for being objective
Sam Johnson I believe super junior and jyj has the best vocal line so I hope u can react to them
he's very honest, he doesn't care to the fact that there is a high possibility that the fans will diss and hate him. THANK YOU FOR BEING HONEST AND FOR BEING PROFESSIONAL
Alyssa same name :)
Agree!
agree
It's this reason why so many artists can't actually grow. Their fans are limiting them. It's not just "haters" who have bad experiences with fans that have taken things way too far. So many artists have been attacked by their own fan base because they changed from the person they expected them to be. True artists have multiple phases of their careers.
ofcourse he didn't care..kpop fans are stupid to begin with
He obviously doesn't know BTS, so it wasn't a call out. He's legit talking about vocals here not your faves.
😂 people need to chill.
I think he knows BTS, that's why he called them good performers.
pooja shekhar it didn’t seem like he did, he just watched the video and saw how good the performance was lol
@@katiechong9745 that was like a few seconds clip, no one can judge a group in a few seconds.
@Me The Great okay, do tell me where he says he doesn't know them.
"She knows how to sing" vocal queen taeyeon being trusted by vocal teachers. We stan forever
Taeyeon is such a good vocalist, you can just tell by how comfortable she looks. She just doesn't fear the high notes or harder parts bc she knows she can handle it. Such a gem.
I mean the professional vocal coach clearly disagrees but okay.
SecretlyRian he legit said she knows how to sing but gets in her head. Implying some of her high notes tend to be off because she’s nervous about hitting them. You clearly didn’t watch the video.
Matthew hi! I just literally quoted what Sam said in the video about Taeyeon, but thank you for taking your time to reply on my comment ☺️
my one word for Taeyeon is always, 'reliable'. I'm so glad I watched the drama Hong Gil Dong in 2008, because I discovered Taeyeon through the OST, and thus Girls' Generation. In the words of Choi Sooyoung, "I'm so glad my main vocalist is you" :')))
"She knows how to sing" yes that's KIM TAEYEON 👑
I'm over her smiling my happiest smile evaaaa
Yed
Queen
so true!
Wig
"she sang both of those perfectly"
aint god chungha for nothing
Well… its GOD Chungha from IDEAL OF IDOLS(IOI) what do you expect😊
*I know your an ioi fan*
My QUEEN!
Well, she single handedly made her company known to the whole world 😁😁
Lol I’m a huge BTS stan but this man is telling the truth about Jimin. BTS doesn’t have the best vocals. They still have a lot of work to do on their voices. Now, they’re all great singers, but they have their moments when their voices don’t do very well. Jimins voice is very delicate and light, and sometimes when he’s dancing so much and he’s so insecure about his voice, it tends to crack or come out pitchy. And the “Best” one for Jimin I’m BST definitely wasn’t 100% natural. Sorry, but it’s the truth.
Kronk I appreciate your honesty and I am really happy that you didn’t get any hate comments
Atleast there trying there hardest
@@Snoogiebug08 yah but what @Kronk said is right 🤷🏻♀️
I accept the imperfection of Jiminie, but LET ME KNOW exist💜💜
This is the first time i have ever seen an Army accept the truth about their Idol.
Why are people saying that armys are sensitive and they can't take criticism over their faves when I've barely seen any armys complaining in the comments? Most agree that Jimin has weak vocals because of not having a proper vocal coach to help him control his voice... Armys know his weaknesses and I've seen more comments agree with the coach above than complaining about criticism so why is everyone pointing fingers that they can't take criticism ?
You are not here early enough
lovemaze for REAL
Well, this radio dj in my country just stated that he finds BTS songs sound the same and it wasn't even a hate comment but the fans started hate comments and sent email to his boss to get him fired.... Disrespectful and overreacting much
Well there is you
Also people forget that Jimin had one of the most shortest training years too.
Jimin is my favorite vocalist, but of course he can always do better 💜
I hope you can react to Super Junior's vocals
Yash I hope he doing react to our SJ
This right here!!!
Like one from early debut to a recent one (to show the growth they've had as they years go by
He's done one on KRY.... but it was when Yesung had the vocal nodules (so his critic of YS; while accurate for that performance can't be taken as a standard for his usual performances)
Already. He's react super junior kry - dorothy
Y'all fans can hate all you want but this man is clearly a professional and his analysis is very insightful
Who is hating who? 😂 we all agree with him, every fan of each groups, ALL. SO WHAT? 😂
R H in it is true. the beginning (like 1 week ago) people were hating.
@@rh9377 idk why don't you ask the salty ass armies who can't accept the fact that jimin's a poor vocalist
@@twoguyskissingpng you see, I'm an army and I know BTS vocalists have to improve, but Sam didn't say anything bad about JM, he said he was fine. Perfection doesn't exist, he is allowed to make mistakes as every human being. He is a great performer and sometimes his voice cracks. So what?
Who is hating are those (fan and antis) who only see BTS' Jimin mistakes. Everyone in the video committed some mistakes, but those only see Jimin D:
Really? isn't he allowed to have a bad moments? To be exhausted? Isn't he human?
Stop focusing on the bad things and appreciate the whole.
I appreciate that you explain why it didn't work, instead of straight up saying "that was bad".
He telling the truth..
Same. He is explaining, so maybe people that love singing can understand the problems they make. Amazing
I want to know the opinions of professional vocal coaches. Do you think this singer’s voice is good objectively speaking?
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This man is actually educated idc what y’all say, he knows what he’s saying.
Amina Dahir I heard this comment in Johnny’s voice coz of your profile pic r.i.p me
For some people, the truth is only what they're expecting to hear. 🤷♀️
Not related to the video,,, but I love your profile picture👀
Becki Rose you’re a real one since you read that in his voice
NCT's grass right😳
his neighbors probably sometimes think he's getting murdered
This comment is underrated.
*hA*
lmao im sure thats what my neighbours think when i try to sing high notes. at least he sings them well when he's not demonstrating.
6:41
A normal Fan
I can’t stop laughing!!!😂😂😂
Idk why ppl are hating tbh. He doesn't stan any groups so there is no bias argument. He is just being honest, stop attacking.
Wren Unni rightt
Agree
absolutely
Ikr
PREACH
many youtubers with actual knowledge are afraid to say something critical in order to dislikes or hate from fans, so thank you for being honest!
🙏
Preach
yeouii ah exactly! Thank you master sam johnson for this high quality content
Yess
They can just chose not to react if they don't want to get hate tho
The difference I find between Sam and other vocal coaches on UA-cam is he actually explains what is causing the issues rather than just saying "they should have made this sound".
YES
So true
I found your critiques objective, constructive and interesting.
I strongly agree bro..
Vocal coach confirms that agencies are straining idols voices
companies train for stamina and not actual vocal technique smh the only company that i know actually trains vocalists correctly (most of the time) is sm
@@maddy5827 yea cause sm has the best vocal coaches 😂 but others have to have good vocals before auditioning
Noooo lmaoo, he didn't even mean that, they are not straining, you don't have an idea of what strain is
@@joseluismedina743 no need to get mad cause a lot of these are strain or non support so voice cracks
If you listen to Taeyeon talk about it, she would say, 'my throat doesn't hurt because I had proper training on how to sing.'
You know what? I love your reactions. You're not biased unlike other vocal coaches who reacted to some kpop
Agree💞He is saying like what he's thinking
Zara Puente And we're learning as well.❣
+Uzumaki Taeyong Yeah❤💋
100% agree
vkook trash The only other I know is Tristan Paredes and he's someone you should never trust if you want truthful criticism for kpop. He literally keeps sugarcoating the popular groups, puts EXO's vocal line against BTS's then acts like a victim when EXO-Ls got mad at him for literally trying to say BTS's can beat EXO lmao, he even got into a fight with Ahmin from Kpopvocalanalysis.
Stop the hate. Just accept that your faves sometimes make a mistake
And it was clearly showed that its sound so bad lol stop backup yr faves
Mistake is normally for the real human
Anybody know the song at 5:15 ??
@@dubu_nsnl7018 Red Velvet's song named "One of These Nights" 😊
BLACK PINK yeah but some people tend to not accept it and say that their faves are flawless and perfect when they’re not, that’s what the person was trying to say
"All of these people are just trying to do unsustainable sounds" welcome to kpop LMAO
He did a review with Mamamoo and he said that it's nice to listen and watch them since they are not forcing anything. as they really have great technique and they know how to play with their voice with out the audience being worried if they can pull those notes and just enjoy the performance.
Thats why i love live kpop performances
mikan a if thet hit the note then goddamn thats good if not better luck next time
i WheeZed omg vnsioghsuigf lmao
Baekhyun’s voice crack :
“He’s telling jokes. This guy is a joker”
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW RIGHT YOU ARE OMG I CANT BREATH
What was the song he was singing
Lady Luck
Yes lol 😂 baekhyun is a cute joker ❤
And on the video u can see Jongdae looking at him like: « dude seriously ?! » 😂😂😂
Angela Talley I THOUGHT THE EXACT SAME THING!
Professionalism at its finest. It makes me laugh how some fans overreact just because their group gets criticized. It’s educational to watch comparisons because it gives so much room for improvement. Not everything can be pulled off by looking cutesy tootsie lol.
feardadani exactly. after all constructive criticism only helps them improve and give better vocals for the songs they want/need to produce.
exactly, interestingly he always pause and comment at SM top vocalist but I wasn't even get annoyed coz he was right at some parts. it just shows SM still make their artist sing live ...and so they can show some improvement the next time they sung it live. it made them wise enough to control their vocals and make adjustment if necessary when they aren't in good condition.
True, I mean they're human too and they're bound to make mistakes 😊
I’m pretty sure these artists would love to have a vocal teacher like him anyways 🤷🏻♀️
@@melissadelacruz735 I don't think he was favouring SM artists its just the trend of unsustainable notes is common in SM songs so there's going to be more cases of poor technique he can comment on.
He doesn’t know baekhyun and in one video he knows that he is a joker 😂
ally_ 29 yeah that’s why people like baek hhh
Yea
I heard the first seconds I was like is this baekhyun? Then he said oh it's a joker, oh so that proves I'm right
Exactly what I'm here to say 😂😂
he describes baek and chen so accurately - the joker and the whiny 😂
“He’s just doin’ a joke. He’s tellin’ jokes. This guy is a joker.”
I can’t 😂😂😂
lmao thats sounds like so baekhyun haha
Why is he so accurate!? I can't 😂😂
How does he know though?!
Byun Baekhyun is 100% a joker 😂😂
I like how honest he is and how he indeed coments about technique. Other people, put "vocal teacher, vocal coach, singing teacher..." in their video but just praise the singer and talk about very subjective things to satisfy the fans. I loved the video XD
True...He is the only one that actually knows knowledge....these "vocal teacher" just say some gibberish that sounds like they know something but in reality they dont know shit
"he's telling jokes, this guy is a joker" You have no idea 🤣
MultifandomCrackhead uWu butt hurt
@@ronelalbo2476??
@@ronelalbo2476 u ok?
@@ronelalbo2476 how?
@@ronelalbo2476 dude I don't think you're using your brain here..
This guy is so brutally honest I fuxking love it. I’ve seen other vocal coaches react but never like this. He actually explains.
💜
That's true
Yeah I feel like a lot of reactions are scared of the kpop army lighting up their comments with "OPPA IS PERF" so they aren't honest. I appropriate him being honest as someone that's trying to learn more about singing and enjoys kpop too!
I agreed with u i hope less toxic and fanatic fan critic him
My dude u need to work for SM
you are right.
Sm? Am i dumb?
SM entertainment
they have some of the best vocalists but they do them dirty so much :(
@@kitty7110 probably
6:12 Woah you know he's a joker without even known him!!!! So accurate may I cry??? 😂😂😂
Afe Niel lets cry together😭😂
Let me join you both!!😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
"THIS GUYS IS A JOKER"
100% AUTHENTIC 😂
6:12 him to baekhyun : "hes doing a joke! this guy is a joker!" YES HE IS LMAO YOU KNEWWW
Gita Rizkiya Dwifani it's true hahaha
Gita Rizkiya Dwifani I almost read that as Onew😂😂😂
Panda Dork LMAO HAHAHHA i just realised that too:"))
What song is that? I forgot the title T_T
S Kalantari lady luck
"He's a joker" IT WAS TRUE LMAO BAEKHYUN IS SUCH A JOKER HAHAHA.
YES BAEKHYUN IS A JOKER🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lady Anggraeni 😂😂
BACON
True.. He's like playing his vocals sometimes but tbh, HE was such a good VOCALIST
He really is😂
Why would you joke about failing a note 😅?
Gosh I love this guy, because he seems to actually give out his actual opinion as a professional voice teacher. Other voice coaches that I observed, seems to not like give out honest opinions because they seems to bias kpop. Or somewhat like that.
I love this guy. We need more honest opinions like this more often :)
None of Your Business Yet, he’s getting a lot of views recently. Another example: Jeffree Star, who has no qualms about being brutally honest, no matter how many people disagree. Anyway, this professional is technical, and it’s refreshing.
keep saying what you know or believe to be true, and don't let the keyboard warriors who have no experience in YOUR field of work get in your head
"she knows how to sing ,it's just she gets in her head" wow that hit me because after all the bullying Taeyeon jas gotten over the years she has said she often get really nervous and scared at her performances and even tho she's an amazing artist it shows and even people who don't even know her can guess at first glance ....
ik, that’s actually pretty sad. she is so talented but i wish she would have more confidence in herself like in the second clip, it really makes her shine and her vocals are so nice when she is confident
@@lozza821 I don't think it's about confident. At this rate confident isn't something to deal about for her. Maybe she was too emotional or not in the good mood
i mean... u decided to watch a video with criticism but can’t handle it? 🧐
hakasims ...ok
@@isti18I heard females often aren't as good at singing when it's near that time of the month. Vibrato becomes more difficult to pull off and such, so maybe it was just an off day?
Voice teacher: *gives honest opinion on vocals and why is bad/good*
Fans: OMG STOP HATING ON OUR IDOLS
If I were a known singer, I'd want lessons from you.
Maybe if you took lessons from him.... YOU would be a KNOWN SINGER!?
Gomez l Addams aw haha I'm sure I would
Sofia Fialho omg that would be so cool!!
Fuck it, I want lessons from him now 😂
Same
i love how honest you are a lot of people like to sugar coat bc they dont want to upset fans so thanks
I don't understand half the words you're using but you sound like you know what you're talking about so I'm gonna trust you on this
😂😂😂😂😂😂 same, I'm not completely fluent in english, but I'm gonna trust him 😂
@@hananahpiper 😂
I'm not gonna lie I skipped some parts of his talking because I didn't understand a doggone word of his musical jargon 😂😂 i really just wanted to see the best/worst parts lol
WHY IS THAT ME WITH KPOP IDOL INTERVIEWS 😂😂
😂😂😂
The 4.5k dislikes are dilusional fans that think that their faves are the best singers lmao.
It's funny you commented about the one guy going whiny with his high note to make it work. Chen has a reputation in EXO of whining/sounding whiny when he speaks.
"AHH WAAAEEE??????" 😂
Athenis **Dinosaur screams**
my life is hamburger omg i was just gonna comment that lmaooo
Yeah, thats Chen for you
He just whines a lot...he's speaking voice is not whiny at all tbh 😅
Yes sometimes EXO like to joke when they know their voice is going to crack or something... once 1 member sang flat to joke and they all went flat and it went funny 🤣
Their vocal trainer is really strict, in 2018 they don't do these mistake
Love5 When did this happened. I don't think I've seen that video. How can i see it
bekind always same
Love5 are you talking about the time chanyeol forgot to say what he had to say in Japanese, Baekhyun imitated and then, the rest of the member followed. It was chnayeol's one of the blank out moment though. Correct me if I am wrong or it's not what you are talking about☻
Flaming Unicorn no you're right.. maybe? B'coz as soon i read the comment what is in my mind is that moment
yolo kpop same that's what I thought of when I read the comment
"She knows how to sing, it just gets in her head."
As a SONE since 2009, this sentence just hurts a lot, seeing Taeyeon sometimes explain her anxious on stage and the ongoing depression, I just wish she can sing freely with no worries
Zoey Luk yeah.. sm should really take this depression things seriously man
Don't overthink this stuff. we don't know what is going on in Taeyeon's head.. Fellow Sone.
yes : ((
@@tabxtra7057 she's literally afraid of performing her own song U R and has admitted it. let's not pretend like she does not have anxiety
@@abbyjing1117 not what I was saying.
I think a big part of the problem is they don't teach proper vocal technique when they train idols. With good technique they won't have to switch during notes or strain, etc. But they just teach them how to reach notes by any means necessary. Better technique will make your voice last longer as well.
That and also the fact that most kpop songs just HAD to have super high notes doesn't help as well. You can train all you want but some notes are just beyond reach esp for boys. And the fact that most kpop fans think that wide range = good vocalist is also not helping at all. Why showing off high notes when you can't reach it correctly.
True I think torque is needed for idols they should teach them not to be the best at vocals but to be smart on how to sing it so that they wont damage their voice
SM is the only company that knows how to train vocals
Sm says hi. Sm produces vocal kings.
seriously! I agreed with him so hard when he said that they use their voices in ways that they aren't comfortable with. even eungkwan from BTOB improved after he did some work in musicals, and he's like the king of high notes... it just made him more powerful. give them proper vocal training!!
one thing that bothers me when someone makes a video about best vocals is that they only include high pitch..... people know low singing voice can also be difficult right?
Raquel Almeida but it's not as challenging
Only people who really understand music know how hard it is to hit a low note and not many people can hit these notes so if you can you are really special
i always thought head voice is pretty simple? like singing high in chest voice is hard, but head voice? eh? im not saying its not hard its just... i dont have a stance about the low notes, but i do think they are in some cases very hard
I had like a whole idea about like videos on stable vocals and all but i got distracted and forgot everything dammit
Hitting low notes is as much as a struggle as hitting high notes is. You can tell when someone can't hit lows and it sounds terrible, while with highs notes there are times where you can save it.
An example would be Stone Cold by Demi. Obviously she has some decently high belts, but if she couldn't execute the low notes during the verses it'd be pretty lackluster.
😂😂😂😂"He s just doing a joke, he s telling a jokes,this guy is a joker" ... That's why I love him ❤
A Y Z exactly when he said that I was like this guy is secretly exo-L 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He got that vibe lol and thats why I love him too 💕
Thats Baekhyun lol
FirePhrin What song was that? I would love to hear the whole thing! 🙏🏾
Baekhyunieeeee
"chungha's worst performance"
:it was not bad
i'm screaminggg chungha passes everything even professional's standards
she is chungha duuuh :P
dam, how can u be such a fun of someone, lol impressive almost XD
@@GrandMagicOfRegnum "fun" what do you mean pikachu
Its because Chungha is QUEEN
what time stamp was chungha
I appreciate your honesty and professionalism with properly explaining it and not holding back
Ikr? I'm sick of those people who react and are just like "wow wow amazing! " While I, a kpop fan, am not impressed
im a lil late but i REALLY enjoyed watching you reacting to this ajskdfdf honestly you're such a great guy, love your honesty!♥
mille ❣
Hi mille, ich feiere deine Koreaboo videos
Milleeee 💞
IKR
mille 😭❤️
This video was honestly very educational. Like before I didn’t see anything wrong with their high notes but now that you mention how they pull off after the note I started to notice that. I was wondering if you could react to jimin’s high notes because in my opinion I really feel like he’s straining his voice in them, I’m curious if I’m right.
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I dont think he does he does it easily... ik you dont mean anything rude
Nunjoon's Pure yeah I didn’t mean it like that, I love him a lot and his voice is very beautiful but yeah his high note seems too high for him (?)
xuximytuxi UwU
in my opinion, he does. (im not like 100% sure, but i do take vocal lessons and i have been trained on how to not strain since that was how i used to sing before lol)
bts in general doesnt have good vocal training and mostly dont use proper technique. its really saddening how they also dont even have enough time to properly train their vocals since they're alwasy so busy nowadays :((
He sang really high in the older songs, but I think his voice went through puberty?
I love Taeyeon's voice even it might not be the most highest, strongest but because of the emotions she gave to her performances
I actually can't take it if some people tell anything negative about her
This's not important. She just doesn't care about bad-mouthings surrounding now so do we. Only does she prove that she deserves what she got . All she need is love from us who always support her. ☺️
me too. i love her voice ❤️
And the fact, taeyeon has a great technique voice..
I mean, it's better than 95% of Kpop main vocals, so...
"He's just a joker" lmao yeah that's Baekhyun
He doesn't make it hard for us to figure out, that Baekhyun xD
I laughed so hard at that part 😂😂😂💗
Yeah haha...I mean Baekhyun has had some previous mess ups but he’s one of THE most stable vocalists in kpop.
I absolutely love your videos! They are extremely interesting and informative, but never mean. You always explain everything and give just constructive criticism when needed/justified. I really appreciate that. I really consider taking singing lessons now. I grew up with (mostly classical) music and play cello and a little bit piano but always loved singing, especially in choirs. Will have a look at voice teachers in Hamburg! Keep up the great work and all the best from Germany!
You go dude, pure truth. You are like those rare people that doesnt care about the blind stuck up fans.
sa
Of course MAMAMOO are not there
they have amazing vocals. and i think there company let’s them stay in there vocal range meaning they don’t have to strain there voice, not a lot of mistakes 😂💜
Watch the video of Sam reacting to mamamoo's vocal
There worst is better than everyone's best, they are a girlgroup that focuses on the vocal over everything else so.
Um literally just watching too see if they are here. Thanks 😂
Erna Bajric They’re not new, they debuted in 2014
Finally a genuine reaction! I noticed all vocal coach reaction to kpop vocals all seem fake cause they know how big the kpop community is and they are afraid to get hate so they don't give a real opinion.
Yeah you're right !
Can army chill for once? What he said about Jimin was correct, sorry the truth hurts. Jimin does need vocal work, but that doesn't mean he's a terrible singer either. Giving this man hate because he gave Jimin constructive criticism is so immature.
Plus with the “best” vid they were lip syncing lmao
soyundorito taeminnie I agree as an army myself.
Kassandra Saitou ehh not really
Kassandra Saitou stop. Learn about bts before you say those kinds of stuff
prince 101 they don’t lip sync you don’t know if they were lip syncing or not idiot
Please dont hesitate to voice out your professional opinions on their vocals. Fans can get pretty defensive to protect their idols' image. Honestly it feels fresh to hear opinions from a pro and not completely biased as you genuinely focus on their vocals only. Pls keep this way of commenting since you've nothing to lose even though they come at your throat 😂
P/s: it would be great if you can make a video on nct's vocals. Been wanting to know your opinion on their voices especially the top vocalists in the group if you dont mind.
I love hearing the pro's opinions
Even though getting judged hurts
Its only to help you get better at what your bad at anyways
oh yes! my fellow nctzen... i suggest TIMELESS...
Baekhyun is a Joker? well i know right😆😆😆
i love reading the comments and seeing fans get offensive 😂
Day Reyes I’m not offended even when I’m a bts fan
Ikr, Jimin’s my ult bias but I agree with him and then others are like “jiMINIE IS PERFECT”
..
*i mean in my eyes he is perfect but generally no he’s not he has a lot to improve on and he knows that but I don’t see why people are getting SO defensive and can’t accept it.*
You crazy 😂
Ikrr
Taeyeon singing "Fine"
Sam: "SHE KNOWS HOW TO SING"
I freaking screamed "YES! SHE CAN!!" lol
She is the best!
taengoooooo !!
Ikr
I mean she does have some good technique so yes lol
you need to check out Mamamoo if you want some killing vocals
mari cndl HELL YEAH
True
Hell yeah
like when they sang delilah and passion flower especially
YESSSS PLS VOCAL QUEEENS
I love how many people who sing or know music really well all make the same cringe face when they know that someone has messed up vocally. It's like we can feel the pain of that note in our souls when it hits because most of us have been there.
@Failedpuberty6x
Relatable... Oh I still hear my failed notes at times 😂
Twice clip he was just like ''Nah ok, nothing have changed'' LOL
Jeongyeon made a mistake there but not a big deal for him to explain
😂😂
I think the problem was the voice crack that's why he said that. Nothing really changed actually lmao, just the voice crack
@@krnhlygrklylmymntrbrnllt923 I know, i just did a joke ;)
@@justine1141 I know, i just did a joke ;)
"This guy is a joker." Most accurate description of Baekhyun. 😂
True! 😊 EXO-L here 👋
AYE you scrolling through the comments. YEAH you. I hope you enjoyed the video, but don’t go and comment something that can start fanwars like some have been doing!
Sugas Toothbrush lmao clever
xoxo jiminie pfft I know right :’)
Also I like your pfp :))
Sugas Toothbrush aw ty~ he’s cute ik
Oki Sugas toothbrush =3
You are like the first logical Army I encounter!!Are you by any chance multifandom?
6:08 *everybody falls in love with baekhyun, he’s a baby*
he is not a baby he is a grown ass man, and it's time for people to start treating him and other idols as so. god its so cringe when people baby idols like this-
“She knows how to sing. It’s just that she gets on her head”. Lol
😂😂 it's also that she was sick in the worst one
Whooo??
Taeyeon, probably. If you're talking about the last one. The clip in 4:58, Joy was sick too, but she can go really well when SM give her the right lines to work with.
Someone who isn't a huge fan won't really know that she's sick from one clip haha, it's just when you get in your head while you're singing you second guess yourself and that can cause tension in the vocal cords which leads to problems!
The people who can’t handle criticism for their favs prob had parents who coddled them like crazy lmao
highafchihuahua i wish i could like this comment more than once
🙄🙄🙄
@@assterisk1080 same
@@thelifeofise found the snowflake kiddo😂😂🤦🏿♂️
@@culturezoneculturezone9071??? What do you mean
**closes gate to triggered armys**
DO NOT OPEN THIS.
@Serendipity Epiphany o, I was literally just on that reply section, aha.
The EXO one literally was me when I first started listening to EXO and I listened to monster. I really love that song and those high notes and runs towards the end messed with my heart and I couldn't breathe after that.
Also, what's your opinion on the cover of "Breathe" by Lee Hi on "The King of Masked Singers"? (I think that's what that show's called) I cried when I heard it because it was so emotional to me
No tea just facts
no printer, just facts
And maybe some opinions
And, quite possibly, a spoonful of sugar.
You should be the vocal trainer for a company. I feel as if they don’t train their idols well enough and give their full potential.
Him noticing how nervous Jimin is hit me really hard.. He always brings himself down so much instead of trusting in himself even though he has such a great voice :/
milens sophie it’s not just this video tho. Most of the time he chooses wrong vocal technique
milens sophie not trying to sound negative but im afraid it might be too late. Would be good tho
He learnt how to sing at the agency and has always been self conscious about his voice. Just chill Chim Chim we love you and you can do it.
Amber Trueheart Yes!!
@@Setetoto did you ever see his good vocals?
As a musician (mainly a pianist, but I’ve also had around seven years of choral vocal training) AND a K-pop lover, I really appreciate this video! People get so offended when I try to tell them when their favorite idol is having trouble hitting a high note. I’m really just commenting on what I’m hearing and the technique that they’re using.
I miss read that and for a second thought you actually had a lover who did K-pop.
That's cool to hear! I'm a fan of EXO and I'm curious who you think is best out of Chen, D.O. And Baekhyun. (Please order 1-3 and give a little explanation) thanksss
Really? Could you please teach me?
I would like to recommend you about wendy from red velvet... I'm just curious about your opinion about her specially when she live in master of singer and her song with john legend
love how he repeated Chen's part in Monster liiiike, even strangers know he's got it, our high note vocal legend Kim Jongdae🤩
And his worst was bc fans were literally sCREAMING they couldn't be heard so he had to pick it up a notch but he sang (screamed) basically a minute or two into the song, so his voice got all raspy :< that Monster stage was indeed the worst one :')
You saying that Baek is a joker made me laugh because it's true.He loves to make people laugh.
the fact that even a first time listener like him can tell that Baekhyun is a joker and its just one of those days where he knows his condition is not 100% but he still goes for the notes regardless. about the chen highnote in monster, the first clip, it was something with the mic bcz in fancams you can hear his note clearly where his voice didnt crack so that clip is inaccurate.
Zeenia Rathore Whay happens to him?
YerinDubs I am not sure who you are asking about but I will tell of both. Chen's voice didn't actually crack it was a technical issue bcz his voice sounds completely normal in fancams. For Baekhyun he just likes to play around with his voice so much so he does crazy things and it does affect him but he tries not to let it get to him even if his voice cracked sometimes. He goes for it anyways and mostly he nails it.
Kpop fans need to realize that they aren't doing anyone any service by praising and defending what is objectively poor technique, ergo something that prevents the vocalist from realizing his/her full potential and what might even be severely damaging in the long run.
I loved the video and your attitude! You seem to be not only very knowledgeable but also a great pedagogist, which, as a teacher (of a different kind) myself, I can say often means more than pure theory.
Completely agree with everything you've said! What I find sad, though, is that people who criticize can do it with such negativity and even hate at times. Oftentimes, it's unnecessary the way their criticism is presented. I think that's why many fans are fast to jump in their favorites' defense.
Chanel A But it isn’t negative or being hateful to say XX did a bad job or XX is a bad singer if it’s true. But of course if a stan sees that they’ll immediately get mad. Even if I like BTS for example, there are surprisingly lots of times when I watch lives and can’t help but cringe because they (or one of them) just doesn’t sound good or they hit a note that is just bad. For people who care about the sound it can detract from the performance as well. I don’t think it’s hateful to be honest about that.
damaging is the key. its happened to a lot of people already....but keep defending..you're just hurting these artist you love. even adele had to take a massive long break because she messed up her vocals chords cause bad technique.
I like that he explains what happened that made their voice so *eh* unlike the other videos where their like "Oh their so good" and not even properly reacting to their bad and good vocals. (Also I like the fact that he's using the piano to find what note their using)
When he talked about Jimin post production I was like "oh no, I wont even read the comments cause the young army kids will throw a fit". I am an army, actually, but everyone knows the fandom grew to the "little girls who dont quite know how to live in real world yet" point, so I just want to say sorry for this channel owner for whatever they did and will do in the future.
Mariana ME TOO I was annoyed at the vid editor for not choosing a better video (cuz there are so many out there) but the live stages are always post production for almost any artist and I knew some armys were gonna lose it
@@PurpleMoon799 I never did. Again, I'm the fandom too. But as it grew it caught the attention of a lot of young people, there is no way to deny there is a lot of little girls in the fandom (like justin bieber fandom instead of other kpop groups fandons)... But than, if you cant see that is probably because you are one of them, isnt?
@@PurpleMoon799 got triggered that much?
@@PurpleMoon799 Why are you calling her as "dumb bitch"? I don't think you're 19 after this comment, because you really sounds like a little, immature girl :)
Hey, um, guys... I'm a little girl 😁
He didn't even say anything about Jimin. Just facts. And the facts weren't mean. He didn't say Jimin was a bad vocalist, his technique just isn't amazing. We all know Jimin can sing, he just needs a bit more vocal work than other idols to do it well and not strain himself and I see NO problem with that. Improving is a wonderful thing. Theres nothing to be ashamed about.
I totally agree! When he pointed out how fearful Jimin was I was like: yep you are exactly right! Jimin was so insecure about his voice and that has been his problem not if he can sing or not! If you have noticed, recently Jimin has become a stronger vocalist and I know it's because he has become more and more confident in his voice! He is not 100% confident but he is almost there and that is awesome! I admire Jimin, because he has shown a lot of courage in this area and to work out his insecurities in front of the whole world is even more amazing!
We all know the vocalists in bts have ASKED so many times to get better vocal coaching and that bh has just said no, that their struggle sounds better. it’s really sad because them straining and struggling is going to hurt them all in the long run
kmtae not trying to be rude, but where are you getting your info? They were never denied skilled vocal coaches. How do you think Jungkook learned how to add emotion, how V learned more vocal sounds, how Jin became so stable and can consistently hit high notes. For Jimin, he’s made amazing improvements. From their Burn the Stage series, they talk about Jimin wanting more time to practice with the vocal coach...but, his vocal chords are, he’s prone to vocal strain and losing his voice if he overuses it. That’s why they have to be strategic with his practice time.
Breana OK they probably had that before and were taught that before. but during the fake love comeback jimin and seokjin both said bang pd said no to getting a vocal coach because their high note sounded better when he strained. twitter.com/angelvocalksj/status/1003697649239724034?s=21
edit: i forgot to add. i am not saying their vocals are bad, none of them are in my opinion but then again i’m not a professional. i think their voices are very pretty and impact me emotionally. all i’m saying is that the constant strain they put on their voices can hurt them
@@kmbkgs
What you said was Jins words taken out of context , so please try again! In truth we do not know how much vocal training they could afford in the past or that they've actually had, but I can remember Jimin saying during one of his earlier vlogs that he had voice lessons! BTS is Big Hits cash cow and has been for years now so I don't think they would even think about ruining their meal tickets vocals! Jin talked about one song that was difficult for him to sing, because of how high the octave was and he was encouraged to push through to deliver the great results that he did! Pushing one's self vocally will not damage the cords if done correctly!
"She knows how to sing." SHE REALLY DOES
Taengooo
Yayyyyyyyyy
I GLAD THIS MAN WAS HONEST THOUGH-
5:11 that's Joy. She has a very unique voice but she's not confident with it. She hesitates to go up or at least try. That makes me so sad....
she was sick at that time tho
She improved a lot for Summer Magic tho I'm so proud of her
Lord Chittaphon she's getting more confident these days. she snapped in summer magic album
In my opinion, Joy needs to work on her pronunciation when singing. For example, when you look at Wendy or Seulgi, the way their mouths form the word is very clear and forward, which allows the sound to get out completely, which makes it better. Whereas with Joy, you can't really see it because for some reason, her upper lips would always stay fl
@@nctsgrass yes ofc!! She's been doing a lot of hard work. I just hope she knows how talented she is
We also need to realise that vocal teachers and coaches, etc., people who work with and study these things, hear things differently than your average music/kpop loving person. A lot of notes that he cringes at, some people like. We're really dealing with different perspectives here and unfortunately most kpop fans are incapable of realising and accepting that.
Conclusion: Taeyeon and Chen fucking know how to sing
Btw can you try to do vocal analysis for some KPOP performances in the future? I'd suggest you "Immortal songs" of Idols like MAMAMOO and RedVelvet (Wengy)... or Masked singer. I like how you take the time to actually explain and not just go "yeah bad, yeah good" like other "vocal trainers"
Do you mean Wendy?
Yves owns my ass Wengy lolol
Mamamoo ohmygod yes!!!!
Chungha also knows how to sing!!!!!
masked singer yusss
I really love his reaction in 6:05.... 😂😂😂😂
Baek is a joker, yes sr... 😎😎😎
I love Baek 💕💕💕💕💓💓💕💕💕💕
Keep being honest. Don't be afraid of the attack because you didn't say bad things just some truth and correction.
That's how I learn from the video tbh
Jimin has a lovely voice but sadly, due to his training and the groups focus on hip-hop, his voice never got the correct training, therefore his vocal technique can tend to be very bad e.g. you can hear how much strain there is in his high notes, even to this day. It upsets me that he didn't have the time to train and sort his voice out; it can be really damaging to hurt it like that, but he has honestly improved so much.
Jenamy also not to mention the amount of doubt and lack of confidence he has. I really wish he would understand that he really does have an amazing voice.
Sugas Toothbrush I think his insecurities also stop him from trying to improve sadly. Yes, there has been major improvement since debut, but the last year or so, there hasn't been much (except the how he has become slightly more stable with his falsetto and head voice) and honestly worries me. Yes, it could just be the fact that he's tired, but I genuinely believe that it is also because of insecurity/ lack of confidence. I also think BigHit should ok invest in getting the boys better vocal and voice coaches with all the money they're taking in, by the looks of it, they only use it to make the music videos fancier. With better teachers, the vocal line could really go far and just been under that of maybe EXO, Nuest, NCT and Seventeen (hoarders of this generations best male vocalists, in my opinion) in terms of technique.
I mean technically you don't really hear "strain", just the affects that strain on the voice causes.
Didn't he said that he wanted to take a break to have vocal lessons maybe a few months cause he was never trained properly?
Jenamy Honestly I agree that his insecurities are one of the reasons he doesn’t improve as much, he’s scared to take chances and not only does that worry me on a musical level but on a just down to earth level. Nobody should have insecurities holding them back from doing something they love. Also yeah maybe better vocal coaches could be of some use but they’ve been a family for so long I think it’d be hard to find someone new for them, plus it’s more so that with they’re successes comes busy schedules that may intervene with when they want to practice. As for some of the best vocalist I do think Chen is flippin amazing and NCT in general has a great vocal line, but I really enjoy Infinite’s vocal line too from stability to harmonization.
9:37 to jimin - *"u see he's soo nervous, none of these guys trust their technique"* wow how did he know that Jimin has problems with trusting himself and his nerves with his high notes?!? I APPLAUD HE IS AMAZING!
EDIT : Wow people really don't really know how to read. I'm an army and I really hate this fandom sometimes bcuz of this reason. I didn't criticize Jimin or anything like that if u watched burn the stage or other clip of JM voicing his opinions about his vocals he said he gets nervous about his notes and his high notes and all I did was compliment the vocal coach for pointing that out or making note of that bcuz of how well he did it just by watching and listening to jimin. I apologise for any misunderstanding but all I did was compliment the vocal couch and not criticize jm. Those people/ army's need to read again and stop bashing ppl of they said smthg hateful bout their artists cuz they need to deal with the internet being like this (not saying that I have said anything against BTS or any hater) and those ppl who understood my original comment and tried to clear up the misunderstanding I thank u and appreciate it efforts.
I love how salty a person can get.
@@fawnfon9644 ?
@@fawnfon9644 does that have any connection with what the person above is saying....cuz I think no
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i agree i was like uhhhhhhhh
Everyone love baekhyun no matter what shit he did 😂❤ baekhyun impact 😘😜
Even though I’m a huge army and have lived bts from almost at debut, jimin grew up around hiphop and he does feel insecure about his vocals (like in burn the stage) and I understand your criticism and I say well done to you because considering some people being touchy about this, you were honest and I like that. Imma subscribe. I also understand the vocal stuff because since I’m going into a career that requires a lot of singing, i had to get a vocal coach and I love their constructive criticism because I learn. Some people just need to understand that criticism doesn’t mean to hurt someone, but to show them ways to improve.
i agree. im a huge army and jimin is my UB but sometimes his voice is not at its best, and he even said during burn the stage how he works with a vocal coach and does his best to improve. these days i believe he's much better. the Fire and BST performances were from a while ago, so an up to date stage would be nice to review.
i think it'd be cool to see an analysis of his vocals after the next sold out world tour or the stages on music banks during promotions for Answer next week :)
I am with you fam!!
i'm an army and I think that this guy is being honest and a professional one, jimin himself know that there are still lacking in his vocal skills and doing some vocal lessons to improve his vocal during these days so guys stop mocking and dissing this guy because he knows what he's doing. Our attitude reflects to bts so continue doing that and people will hate us more and call us crazy because of some immature acts.
Alyssa At least your being nice about it, and not an amateur. Everyone here are being amateur’s and we know he is lacking because of insecurity’s and all that. And nobody is perfect. I don’t think singers are going to ALWAYS nail everything.
@@minrose3313 yes, jimin knows it and we know it. those people are the immature one who dissing people not knowing the real story behind it
Sam recognising that Baekhyun is an absolute doof within a 5 second clip, is my favourite thing ever x 3
this dude portrays constructive criticism. everybody has flaws, now, say if you’re an army and he said something about Jimin, calm your shit down and let him say whatever he wants to say. if jimin coughed, you would worship it. singing is not exactly that easy. i have to admit that both of the vocals in jimin’s blood sweat & tears clip were pretty bad. i’m not a solo stan. the first one made Jimin look tired and a bit upset. The second one had indeed sounded edited and filled with compressors.
I think they originally (for the best one) sang live, but the editor put the song over to make it sound better.
He never said anything bad about Jimin. You did tho, Susan.
Some people said that Jimin was sick in the worst one :/
Bangtan Duck he was. He had a flu and even lost voice some days prior to that event. He had to push too hard to perform.
@@sara-rc6nq yeah there were pic taken of him having pads under his scarf during that award show... its hard to sing. I tried and woops i destroyed my families eyedrums every singer will have good and bad days.
Many kpop vocal trainers actually wanted to make idols to use their chest voice rather than using their head voice. I dont really know why, but I always see it in Produce 48 where trainers try to attempt high pitches by using their chest voice and if they do it perfectly, their trainers will praise them. However if they use their head voice, they will get scolded and will be forced to use their chest voice. I dont really know why but I think it is because their voice might be more stable when their dancing while using their chest voice rather than using their head voice.
I think it depends on the impact of the song.