Absolutely. I think everyone here is guilty of just playing songs they like or already know, without coming back to theory. My music book collection is half/half. One half is all my favourite albums ie puppets, jar of flies, appetite, but the other half is my instruction books, metal theory, rock method, rhythm guitar. In fact, my weakest point is rhythm. I'm better at scales than chords, don't ask me why, but I need to continually work on it. Because my favourite bands use chord arpeggios all the time, and it annoys me if I can't even do it half speed. You are never too old to go back to basics.
When I was 13 (1963), I went to a guitar lesson once a week, never practiced and was bored shitless, because learning took so much time. No I am 69 and have taken up the guitar again. I am a little more mature, but because of the Internet and You Tube, I can have a lesson every 10 minutes, and I can repeat it if I don't understand. So I can make more progress in one week than I made in 1 years as a stupid, lazy teenager, back in the 60's. Just a thought.
I really appreciate your attitude towards this. I'm 35 and starting to play guitar and I feel it is just like studying. Starting off with something that barely seems achievable, but during the course of a few years there's a solid foundation of factual education. My father is 63 and loves guitars, amps, and all the stuff around it. But he is too afraid to pick up playing the guitar because he thinks he's too old to get anywhere with it. I sincerely think there's no such thing as talent. There's time spent practicing and the amount of correct repetitions. When I look at my 7 year old son and the stuff he's good at, I know exactly it is because he's spent hours and hours doing it. Outsiders will say he's got great body control. Yes, that's because he's literally jumping around making moves everytime he gets up. This is the way I think about my guitar playing. The more time I spend actually playing, the better I will be in one year from now. The same would happen to my father if he'd actually go for it. Especially today, with all the resources literally at your fingertips.
The greatest lesson I took away from this video is knowing that Joe was not a guitar god right out of the gates. knowing he had no clue at first makes me feel better about my guitar learning journey. Thank You Joe.
I love this! In Alex Skolnick's book Geek to Guitar Hero, he wrote about taking lessons from Joe in the Bay Area in the early 80s and pretty much described being taught the intervals, scales and modes and how one day they finally just clicked. As a former guitar teacher myself, this is the direction I went as well when I still taught. Increase the student's musical knowledge first. Knowing the distance from one note to another and the scales don't help though without practice! Alex was my hero when I was learning. Had heard of Joe Satriani but did not know he taught so many who became great. Love Joe, love Alex too. And he mentions Joe Pass, a personal hero of mine! Damn, I love learning who my heroes learned from. I keep finding out we all have a lot in common as far as influences. Thanks for giving us all so much, Satch! Like ripples in a pond, what you've taught others has spread far so even the bottom feeders like me feel it!
Thanks, Joe! That is one of the best instructional videos I’ve ever seen. And, it gives a lot of insight into how he developed as a player. Very few teens have the focus and open mind that he seems to have had at that age. I sure wish I had approached things like this back then.
gflyer45 not as uncommon as you think. Everybody I know who plays had a start with a classical instrument. Probably back when rock was in it’s prime, a lot of kids just jumped straight into guitar without knowing even basic theory.
Joe satriani is a very good teacher and inspiration for us. I cant believe a greatest and professional artist of the world is guiding us. Thanking you Joe Satriani sir... god bless you...
Perfect summation of what it takes to start and where it will lead to. Thanks Joe!! Good to know you are so grounded and can tell it with straight forward honesty and with hard work can achieve it.
Cool video bro. This one is special. I've seen him explain this so many times over the years but this one had a few more small details in the right places.
This is an amazing lesson.. i once sow Joe S. Live in Porto (Portugal)... i was only plying classic guitar at that time... late 90's... never forgot that show !!!
This is how Mastery is achieved. Lots and lots of PRACTICE. All of them have put in the TIME and effort involved - Satch, Vai, EJ, Buckethead, John5, Paul Gilbert, Yngvie, etc. There are NO shortcuts. It's a never ending journey. I'm 54 now and wish I had the resources in my teens and 20s to take lessons and practice with this kind of devotion to the instrument. Still, just playing along with all may fav bands for decades, chordbooks, (I can't tab worth a crap) I developed an awesome musical inner ear. Go for it, young people!! if U have the desire, the passion and can dream about it, put in the time, so much FREE material on UA-cam nowadays to learn from.
Learning to play the guitar is a humbling experience. I would even go so far as to say it’s almost like a Guarded Secret. But I believe it comes down to having a great teacher. To quote Albert Einstein: If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough. Thanks Satch for giving us a few extra pieces to the puzzle!
Awesome lesson, i owned his guitar method book in 1991 probably out of print now. All he said and a ton more is in there. Most practical book i ever found for his style of guitar, and there is real practice in there. It was fun to work from it.
Man, I wish someone would have told me what music theory was back when I started playing guitar at 12. Now I am 27 and discovered music theory 2 years ago. I have made more progress in these 2 years than in the last 15 years, by far. I can create much more patterns, chord progressions, use a much wider variety of notes, and I am also starting to gain speed. What a game changer
I have never really gotten into Satriani, mainly just because I've never heard his music. I should be sleeping right now, but this was the third one of these vids in a row i've watched. I'll watch the others later. I love how he talks and explains things. Definitely a talent for teaching (and of course guitar!).
I love the way he practiced intervals. great ear training. I do and always have sung the scales but that interval thing I'm definitely going to start adding.
He is a gentleman, I met him twenty- five years ago in Anchorage, ak. He signed my shirt. Concert shirt. He screamed when playing. But a pleasure to meet. 😁
Cool to see his background, no wonder he's supposed to have a great ear. I do the same myself as well as forcing (not really, most like it) my students to do it, only difference is that I use Solfege (movable Do). Easier to sing Fi instead of Sharp Fouuuuur:D
"it turned out that i was not that good at guitar as i hoped to be, but i had to keep feeding to push it as far as i can" fml gotta love this guy, his limits pushed him into being selective in a very musical way, making him the most musical technical legend-tier guitarist. Gotta freaking love him.
The Book is Joe Pass Guitar chords melbay, pick a category of chord for the day and switch between them then transpose. practicing the major scale in different keys with a at least 5 patterns and singing along intervals or solfege develops the ability to play what you hear in your head. it's impossible to imagine how important it is. replace the noodling with that like me and we"llbe Satriani in a few years. avoid looking down on the fretboard, you want to hear if its right, not look, keep your back straight look forward or better close your eyes, practice like great Violonists do.
You wonder why this man's student catalogue includes legends like Larry from Primus and Kirk from Metallica. It really is Joe's focus on the fundamentals of theory and the way he relates to the early guitar student's first struggles to the stepping stones of basic playing show that Joe really is a great teacher as well as musician. :)
Steve vai is the crazy artist guy, popping out of my taste at least now and then. Satch has that very elegant and smooth way of pleasing the ear, very receptive to feedback and acts like a disciplined servant for his music.
Chris Davies If there was only one book by Joe Pass your helpful comment would be really appreciated but i found a few.... with Google. Found the right one anyway so no further advice necessary
This video is interesting to me. Having being born with perfect pitch, this is a whole section of learning I have been able to completely pass over. I'm very lucky I guess, but I have no idea how other people can't hear the notes already of course, I just understand now that they can't, even the top musicians in the world.
Perfect, or absolute pitch, does not equate to one being musically proficient, simply a person's ability to put a non-referenced tone to the frequency being heard. Relative pitch is all one would need. Some children can be trained to acquire absolute pitch, but there is really no market for it unless you are a singer, composer, or orchestral conductor. A lot of times people think they have perfect pitch, but in actuality they are good within a certain, yet limited, frequency range.
Why are we so blessed with the most redicoulusly best ax player in history inc page Helen and Hendrix here now and is willing to reach out to us ? Omg guys omg
GuitarPartho here is the transcript for the lesson: www.guitarworld.com/lessons/joe-satriani-master-class-satch-shows-you-how-to-express-yourself-on-guitar
Dear fellas (Joe and Steve)let me tell you few things about how destiny reveals the truth and not cheap and false ideologies. First, the great encounter between you two having the same dream of becoming music composers. And this is the kickoff to the next step for me to get it all as simple as you two got it.$$$ but for me economy has never been too kind to me which made me took a wrong and limited path of chances. I personally encourage you to bring your time laps into a Hollywood great film for the rest of us in the world to see in a very inspirational way all those events full of beautiful music you two make. Professors you really rock dudes:
And that's where I get lost, and this scale is Phrygian Dominant. I get it that Phrygian is one of the modes, but what makes it dominant? Is there an alternative to dominant?
Yes, as someone said below Phrygian Dominant is 5th mode of the Harmonic Minor scale. The fifth chord is dominant and that's the chord the 5th mode is based on. The 5th chord of both the major scale and harmonic minor have a major 3rd and a flatted 7th. It's a totally different scale/mode from the standard Phrygian based off the major scale. Usually when someone is talking about a chord or mode as being dominant it's because it is based around a 7th chord.
Phrygian dominant is the 5th mode of the harmonic minor. if you where trying to find E Phrygian Dominant. first you need to find what the one is.. which would be A. then you can find the relative major of the harmonic minor.. which would be C
Shaun Jones Phrygian dominant has a raised third. For example, E Phrygian: E F G A B C E Phrygian Dominant: E F G# A B C Phrygian dominant is the 5th mode of the harmonic minor scale.
His Music has touched me emensely, therefore also emotionly, and I still enjoy listening to his propitious music, while he is still on the path of leaning leaning how to play(🤤🤤🤤🤤). Odd words, I know, since he is a Maesto. Hope it makes sence
This just confirms that I have so much to learn and do. Sometimes you need a kick in the ass like this.
You could probably start by changing that profile picture
Do it man, the kind of ear training he is talking about is the secret to everything!!
Absolutely. I think everyone here is guilty of just playing songs they like or already know, without coming back to theory.
My music book collection is half/half. One half is all my favourite albums ie puppets, jar of flies, appetite, but the other half is my instruction books, metal theory, rock method, rhythm guitar. In fact, my weakest point is rhythm. I'm better at scales than chords, don't ask me why, but I need to continually work on it. Because my favourite bands use chord arpeggios all the time, and it annoys me if I can't even do it half speed.
You are never too old to go back to basics.
When I was 13 (1963), I went to a guitar lesson once a week, never practiced and was bored shitless, because learning took so much time. No I am 69 and have taken up the guitar again. I am a little more mature, but because of the Internet and You Tube, I can have a lesson every 10 minutes, and I can repeat it if I don't understand. So I can make more progress in one week than I made in 1 years as a stupid, lazy teenager, back in the 60's. Just a thought.
Never too old . It's will keep you young and your coordination, memory will only improve
I know exactly the way you feel. But still I believe I will write something I like no matter my age. Not for selling but for my satisfaction...
I really appreciate your attitude towards this. I'm 35 and starting to play guitar and I feel it is just like studying. Starting off with something that barely seems achievable, but during the course of a few years there's a solid foundation of factual education. My father is 63 and loves guitars, amps, and all the stuff around it. But he is too afraid to pick up playing the guitar because he thinks he's too old to get anywhere with it. I sincerely think there's no such thing as talent. There's time spent practicing and the amount of correct repetitions. When I look at my 7 year old son and the stuff he's good at, I know exactly it is because he's spent hours and hours doing it. Outsiders will say he's got great body control. Yes, that's because he's literally jumping around making moves everytime he gets up. This is the way I think about my guitar playing. The more time I spend actually playing, the better I will be in one year from now. The same would happen to my father if he'd actually go for it. Especially today, with all the resources literally at your fingertips.
same here. time is short though. i won't reach sach's level.
I was just thinking that I was no way that disaplined when pi was a teen!
The greatest lesson I took away from this video is knowing that Joe was not a guitar god right out of the gates. knowing he had no clue at first makes me feel better about my guitar learning journey. Thank You Joe.
I wish I had these advices and resources 20-25 years ago...
Marco Loregian totally agree...
...and the patience to do something with them :D
You have even more now
No internet
I am in that 20-25 years ago period of my life and it’s great
Joe you are our inspiration and our teacher , we all aspiring Musicians learn a lot from you .
Your musical mind is genius
I love this! In Alex Skolnick's book Geek to Guitar Hero, he wrote about taking lessons from Joe in the Bay Area in the early 80s and pretty much described being taught the intervals, scales and modes and how one day they finally just clicked. As a former guitar teacher myself, this is the direction I went as well when I still taught. Increase the student's musical knowledge first. Knowing the distance from one note to another and the scales don't help though without practice!
Alex was my hero when I was learning. Had heard of Joe Satriani but did not know he taught so many who became great. Love Joe, love Alex too. And he mentions Joe Pass, a personal hero of mine! Damn, I love learning who my heroes learned from. I keep finding out we all have a lot in common as far as influences. Thanks for giving us all so much, Satch! Like ripples in a pond, what you've taught others has spread far so even the bottom feeders like me feel it!
This is probably the most insightful and important video for all guitarists.
for me that award goes to ua-cam.com/video/atGBKuCJ-Jc/v-deo.html
Mind blown……and I was stuck in the minor pentatonic for YEARS!! Thank god for the internet now.
Thanks, Joe! That is one of the best instructional videos I’ve ever seen. And, it gives a lot of insight into how he developed as a player. Very few teens have the focus and open mind that he seems to have had at that age. I sure wish I had approached things like this back then.
gflyer45 not as uncommon as you think. Everybody I know who plays had a start with a classical instrument. Probably back when rock was in it’s prime, a lot of kids just jumped straight into guitar without knowing even basic theory.
Joe satriani is a very good teacher and inspiration for us. I cant believe a greatest and professional artist of the world is guiding us. Thanking you Joe Satriani sir... god bless you...
Perfect summation of what it takes to start and where it will lead to. Thanks Joe!! Good to know you are so grounded and can tell it with straight forward honesty and with hard work can achieve it.
That playing/singing stuff is pure gold.
Cool video bro. This one is special. I've seen him explain this so many times over the years but this one had a few more small details in the right places.
This is an amazing lesson.. i once sow Joe S. Live in Porto (Portugal)... i was only plying classic guitar at that time... late 90's... never forgot that show !!!
Satch is the best. He always makes things sound so easy with his explanations.
Just listening to Satch talking guitar is like taking an ocean cruise...with Satch as captain, of course.
Better than me as captain. Id shipwreck all of you. Haha 😜
Joe Satriani my Guitar Hero Virtuoso .. ThanX Satch & ThanX Guitar World..
This is how Mastery is achieved. Lots and lots of PRACTICE. All of them have put in the TIME and effort involved - Satch, Vai, EJ, Buckethead, John5, Paul Gilbert, Yngvie, etc. There are NO shortcuts. It's a never ending journey. I'm 54 now and wish I had the resources in my teens and 20s to take lessons and practice with this kind of devotion to the instrument. Still, just playing along with all may fav bands for decades, chordbooks, (I can't tab worth a crap) I developed an awesome musical inner ear. Go for it, young people!!
if U have the desire, the passion and can dream about it, put in the time, so much FREE material on UA-cam nowadays to learn from.
I just bought the chord book of Joe pass. He was right about it. The chords aren’t being named but they sound 🔥🔥🔥
Will Moleka whereee??
@@MrBrenno25 you can normally find it on amazon ;the name is "Joe pass - Guitar Chords"
@@willmoleka4054 Is that the Mel bay Joe Pass guitar chords?
humble honest and cool at the same time.Thanks Joe Satriani you told us what you've been through before reaching where you are.
Yessir, seen Joe 5 times, 2 solo, 3 with G3. My fave, "Always With......" live, long version, I saw that in 2009 in Boston, tears rolling down folks.
scales over drone and singing the scales is BRILLIANT!
Learning to play the guitar is a humbling experience. I would even go so far as to say it’s almost like a Guarded Secret. But I believe it comes down to having a great teacher. To quote Albert Einstein: If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough.
Thanks Satch for giving us a few extra pieces to the puzzle!
Awesome lesson, i owned his guitar method book in 1991 probably out of print now. All he said and a ton more is in there. Most practical book i ever found for his style of guitar, and there is real practice in there. It was fun to work from it.
Being very humble n down playn on the effort it takes to learn a scale ir chord played cleanly takes alot .churr joe the messiah of guitar
Mickey Baker books (Vol 1 and 2) are terrific for jazz chords. Available on eBay.
6:52 I got that find any note thing from a Lee Ritenour video in the early 80's. Lee is a monster 😊
Man, I wish someone would have told me what music theory was back when I started playing guitar at 12. Now I am 27 and discovered music theory 2 years ago. I have made more progress in these 2 years than in the last 15 years, by far. I can create much more patterns, chord progressions, use a much wider variety of notes, and I am also starting to gain speed. What a game changer
Your such a good teacher. Thank you
I have never really gotten into Satriani, mainly just because I've never heard his music.
I should be sleeping right now, but this was the third one of these vids in a row i've watched. I'll watch the others later.
I love how he talks and explains things. Definitely a talent for teaching (and of course guitar!).
I love the way he practiced intervals. great ear training. I do and always have sung the scales but that interval thing I'm definitely going to start adding.
Could you help me understand it a little more?
Joe is amazing and so smart.
He is a gentleman, I met him twenty- five years ago in Anchorage, ak. He signed my shirt. Concert shirt. He screamed when playing. But a pleasure to meet. 😁
I bought the Joe Pass chord book, but never used it much because I didn't know what to do with it . . . now I do.
Cool to see his background, no wonder he's supposed to have a great ear. I do the same myself as well as forcing (not really, most like it) my students to do it, only difference is that I use Solfege (movable Do). Easier to sing Fi instead of Sharp Fouuuuur:D
FOUNDATION!!!! ..Thanks again Joe, many years after, yet still..FOUNDATIONS!!!!
Spoken like a true guitar master! I tried similar methods, and it was so overwelming!
"it turned out that i was not that good at guitar as i hoped to be, but i had to keep feeding to push it as far as i can" fml gotta love this guy, his limits pushed him into being selective in a very musical way, making him the most musical technical legend-tier guitarist. Gotta freaking love him.
Just playing scales and he sounds amazing...gotta keep going!!
Iam definitly buying that joe pass chord book!
The Book is Joe Pass Guitar chords melbay, pick a category of chord for the day and switch between them then transpose.
practicing the major scale in different keys with a at least 5 patterns and singing along intervals or solfege develops the ability to play what you hear in your head. it's impossible to imagine how important it is. replace the noodling with that like me and we"llbe Satriani in a few years. avoid looking down on the fretboard, you want to hear if its right, not look, keep your back straight look forward or better close your eyes, practice like great Violonists do.
MASTER IS ALWAYS THE BIGGEST INSPIRATION TO ME❤❤❤❤
Tuning a half step down is way more pleasing to the ear.
You wonder why this man's student catalogue includes legends like Larry from Primus and Kirk from Metallica. It really is Joe's focus on the fundamentals of theory and the way he relates to the early guitar student's first struggles to the stepping stones of basic playing show that Joe really is a great teacher as well as musician. :)
Don't forget Steve Vai.
He has such a nice style of teaching.
Amazing idea to enjoy great music.
Wow, that was awesome!
Wow! Joe Satriani is my teacher!
Thinking Music, while on the path to feeling Music. And/or feeling Music, while thinking about how to create it?
Satch is a great dude
Thanks a lot for sharing!
steve vai is good but satriani is technic and feeling thanks for the class
Steve vai is the crazy artist guy, popping out of my taste at least now and then. Satch has that very elegant and smooth way of pleasing the ear, very receptive to feedback and acts like a disciplined servant for his music.
@@KramerPacer2 I always felt like Sach has a sound like a shred version of The Beach Boys. Where as Vai is like VH on roids
I just bought Joe Pass's book. Gonna try it and see......
Very inspirational
Is this Joe Pass chord book scale still available?
docslide.net/documents/guitar-book-joe-pass-guitar-chords.html well i think this is the book that joe was talking about
Chris Davies If there was only one book by Joe Pass your helpful comment would be really appreciated but i found a few.... with Google. Found the right one anyway so no further advice necessary
M. Martini Which one is it?
Justin Ions Joe Pass Guitar Chords the one with the blue cover/envelope
Was just trying to help you in the right direction is all :)
Joe is a true professor guitar god !
Great humble truth
The greatest
This video is interesting to me. Having being born with perfect pitch, this is a whole section of learning I have been able to completely pass over. I'm very lucky I guess, but I have no idea how other people can't hear the notes already of course, I just understand now that they can't, even the top musicians in the world.
Perfect, or absolute pitch, does not equate to one being musically proficient, simply a person's ability to put a non-referenced tone to the frequency being heard. Relative pitch is all one would need. Some children can be trained to acquire absolute pitch, but there is really no market for it unless you are a singer, composer, or orchestral conductor. A lot of times people think they have perfect pitch, but in actuality they are good within a certain, yet limited, frequency range.
I have to buy his sunglasses model. I have the same nose bridge and i virtually cannot find any brand/model that fits me. Anybody knows what it is ?
Is there a place to see the figures in tab notation?
Why are we so blessed with the most redicoulusly best ax player in history inc page Helen and Hendrix here now and is willing to reach out to us ? Omg guys omg
te amo gracias por tanto
NowI wanna here Joe Satriani plays Jazzy-DC
Where is Figure 29? I assume. It links to a guitar world magazine?
GuitarPartho here is the transcript for the lesson: www.guitarworld.com/lessons/joe-satriani-master-class-satch-shows-you-how-to-express-yourself-on-guitar
you got that going for you...which is nice
Steve vai's videos are like: make sure your hand looks pretty. While satch is like: these are the right notes to that lol
Can someone explain me which book exactly is he talking about??
Dear fellas (Joe and Steve)let me tell you few things about how destiny reveals the truth and not cheap and false ideologies.
First, the great encounter between you two having the same dream of becoming music composers. And this is the kickoff to the next step for me to get it all as simple as you two got it.$$$ but for me economy has never been too kind to me which made me took a wrong and limited path of chances. I personally encourage you to bring your time laps into a Hollywood great film for the rest of us in the world to see in a very inspirational way all those events full of beautiful music you two make.
Professors you really rock dudes:
Inspiring!
Amazing
Repetetive sight singing and ear training is key.
Time/space repetition. Never fails.
Practice, Practice and more practice
Singing the note to feel it what in my body
6:48 should have learned this decades ago
Glen Cove? ROT was here!
Satriani is a true musician. Not only a guitarist that wants to show off and get internet likes.
Good man
Inspiring
Quiero saber quien fue primero evh o satriani o el mejor bueno eso digo no se quiza uno sea veloz pero yo me quedo con el que toque con feeling
Satriani ojalá un día pueda verte tocar always whit me always whit you regalame una guitarra ibanez
There is absolutely zero upon zero way that this guy is not the Kelly slater of guitar , all time lads and chickens
He names off about 10 scales. "that's all i really new high school".
Plot twist, Joe is blind he's just like Daredevil. He can see with his body and other senses.
And that's where I get lost, and this scale is Phrygian Dominant. I get it that Phrygian is one of the modes, but what makes it dominant? Is there an alternative to dominant?
Chris Davies raised 3rd
Chris Davies Phrygian dominant Is the 5th mode from the harmonic minor scale
Yes, as someone said below Phrygian Dominant is 5th mode of the Harmonic Minor scale. The fifth chord is dominant and that's the chord the 5th mode is based on. The 5th chord of both the major scale and harmonic minor have a major 3rd and a flatted 7th. It's a totally different scale/mode from the standard Phrygian based off the major scale. Usually when someone is talking about a chord or mode as being dominant it's because it is based around a 7th chord.
Phrygian dominant is the 5th mode of the harmonic minor. if you where trying to find E Phrygian Dominant. first you need to find what the one is.. which would be A. then you can find the relative major of the harmonic minor.. which would be C
Shaun Jones Phrygian dominant has a raised third. For example,
E Phrygian: E F G A B C
E Phrygian Dominant: E F G# A B C
Phrygian dominant is the 5th mode of the harmonic minor scale.
Thanks
Me also wich i had this 30 years ago
Godlike
You know it!
He’s responsible for SF Bay Thrash scene.
Wish he was in standard. Easier for my beginner students to play along to. Eb comes later ;)
Your problem may stem from teaching beginners Satch lessons before teaching them how to tune a guitar to alternate tunings
Best☺
I see axe fx in the back
I teach my students this with cell drones
Cell drones?
It makes you sound natural
Tabs?
Chileno R www.guitarworld.com/lessons/joe-satriani-master-class-satch-shows-you-how-to-express-yourself-on-guitar
His Music has touched me emensely, therefore also emotionly, and I still enjoy listening to his propitious music, while he is still on the path of leaning leaning how to play(🤤🤤🤤🤤). Odd words, I know, since he is a Maesto. Hope it makes sence
He is shaping sound with very underrated scales, was still able to make it into charts. He is humble to music.
Useful for a mortal?
Seems to be tuned down half a step.
Oh yeah... I learned 10 different scales and wow!! That was enough!!
Like, I like the dude but kinda obvious... 4:25