I’m 67 and work at Fernie Alpine Resort on the Powder Highway up here in BC. I bought a 3-D Fish a couple years ago and I absolutely Love it in the Pow. I just bought a Hometown Hero for my All Mountain use. I’ve used Step Ons for years and will never go back to Straps.
"The wife says?" You can always lie about the price, or don't seek wooden stuff, don't buy watches, never start hunting and stay away from cars man. I honestly hope that my wife will look up the real price of all the things I have before she will sell them after I'm dead. 😅
Thanks for the good words. Had one up for a while and reviews are super easy to find on my site. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/capita-super-doa-2020-2023-snowboard-review/
Great and logical review as always James. Leaning back and pressing down on my back toe or heel on my Bataleon Surfer feels as good as mashing down the gas pedal of a muscle car, or as good as punching a high school bully in the nose. I was disappointed not to see it included.
Ha! Love your writing personality! I'll try to get back on that board for an extended demo and hopefully put it through it's paces against similar favorites in the deep deep.
We reviewed some in the past and they haven't changed so still relevant. Check the site. We stopped reviewing them when they stopped fulfilling orders. A lot of my readers were pissed to say the least when they paid for a Prior board but then never got one. If its certain they are functional and fulfilled or refunded all those customer orders in the past I'll reconsider reviewing.
@@thegoodridesnow well thats disconcerting! Part of the reason for getting one was I wanted to support a canadian product....I had no issues myself but that super shitty that orders were taken and not filled.....
@@thegoodridesnow it is very cool that you do an individual snowsurf category! Can't wait! 🤙🏻But I have to ask - what makes your selection better in powder than for example a BigFish?
Good question. Next time I do this I'll elaborate more in the vid. Haven't tried the Big Fish so can't say. Hope to get on it one day if Gentemstick has one for demo. It's all personal preference but I liked these a little better in same day powder tests than most snowsurf/alt freeride boards I've tried. That being said most will be just fine with a really floaty Snowsurf or and Alt Freeride board because they can ride it on groomers too. This is more of the last board you add to the quiver and I often recommend Snowsurf/Alt Freeride for most because they are more versatile.
Have you tried the Korua Pin Tonic (164) in ultra deep days? I mean when an Optimistic stalls after ten meters? And it has camber, and stability in every condition. And its nimble enough in thight forests. I wish it were a bit more lively... any other recommendations that have camber but float good (I consider the Optimistic not good)? Thanks
Yeew! These all look awesome. I love my Storm Chaser split for deep days in the back country. Was going to get a solid for pow days at the resort, but now considering the 3D Fish instead. I'm a surfer, so looking for slashy nimble float on deep days. I love my Stratos split and solid for all mountain. How would you compare the 3D Fish to the Storm Chaser, esp for the chopped up pow in between freshies? If they'd kept the flat-to-rocker on the Mind Expander, it probably would have been my go-to for resort pow. Storm Chaser feels so good in un-touched, though, that the buckiness in-between may be worth it :-)
They are. Yeah if Jones still had surf rocker on the Mind Expander I'd say go with that. Not sure on your specs etc but the Fish sounds like a safer play if you are dealing with messy resort pow days. I agree with you on the Storm Chaser. When it's clean it's a hard board to beat but man it bucks in messy snow to the point it's just not fun to ride any more. Hit me up here if you want to get into this in more detail and get real advice. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
It would be interesting to hear how these board do once the pow gets chopped up. That's my biggest concern on a dedicated pow board, that they lose their magic later in the day.
@@thegoodridesnow yeah I wanted something that can still be carvy and all mountain with some added benefit of stay on top of pow. Have you ever ridden Chimera? I'm looking at getting the Sceptre splitboard next year
Testing it now. Fun board but really digging the Cougar. So far it's the highlight of my test with the Shape Shifter, Proto Fr, Valhalla, Easy Rider and Swift. I have some vids up for early access members here and more to come. www.patreon.com/thegoodride
Im eyeing up some deals on a 2023 157 Powder Racer since I prefer a little camber. Im 6'4" 170 size 12 boot & currently ride a 157 Stalefish in powder. I love it, but I was just considering the Powder Racer for a little more width & maybe making for a smoother ride(less boot overhang dragging in pow). I ride a lot of Tahoe trees & need a nimble board. How would you compare these two boards? Should I just be happy with my Stalefish? Thanks!
The tail on those Pow Racers is pretty narrow for 12's. The Stalefish is a much better board for your specs. If you want to try something else out check out the Soul Blower 162, Korua Dart 160 or Mellow 160.
I have that fish 3d that you do in the video and a deep daze and find that they do not glide very well . my old fish was very fast . have you experienced this with the newer Burton boards ? thanks very much
Yeah check the full review of the 3D fish and what I had to do to get the base to glide well. It's better this year and I owned the Deep Daze 2023 too. It had better glide than my 2021 3D fish and worked best with Burton wax but yeah they don't have the fastest bases any more.
So I gotta ask how does the powder glider measure up against the 162cm Spring Break Tree Hunter , i bought that and the 158cm Mind Expander based on your reccomendations a few years back as the boards that offered more float than anything else. Also how does the golden orca measure up against the spring break powder twin ?
Oh that Tree Hunter was special. I think you are good with that and the old rocker ME. Golden Orca is much more directional, has taper, set back on sidecut, set back on board, a slower base and a pretty different overall ride compared to the perfectly centered Capita Pow Twin
I thought you have a jones mind expander or two and that is your favorite powder board ? In your other video you say it’s what you compare powder boards to
These all float easier than those boards. The Archetype didn't float that well for us compared to many swallow tails but it really carved groomers well. Felt like more of a big mountain/steep terrain board. Struggled more than I thought it would in low angle pow. Squash felt more floaty than the Archetype.. Great for high speed groomer carves and could easily work as your pow board but not as floasty as these by a good bit. Not very turny either so if you like a turny board I would pass.
Yep. Some Korua will be in the Snowsurf and Alt Freeride favorites though. Love those boards but they just carve groomers soo hard they don't belong here. If you go here thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/?mens=1 you can see our favorites if you hit the favorite filter.
@@thegoodridesnow I own several koruas, largely because of your reviews. All my friends are now getting on them as well. Can't bring one on a trip without them "borrowing" for a day.
you guys influenced me big time over the years. Keep on the great work boiiiis
Many thanks!
Holding on dearly to my Jones Mind Expander 2020: flat to rocker and that 9000 base is super fast! It's a pity they downgraded that over the years
I’m 67 and work at Fernie Alpine Resort on the Powder Highway up here in BC. I bought a 3-D Fish a couple years ago and I absolutely Love it in the Pow.
I just bought a Hometown Hero for my All Mountain use.
I’ve used Step Ons for years and will never go back to Straps.
Thanks for your take.
You guys are amazing! Keep up the good work. Hope you know it's appreciated
Many thanks!
I shouldn’t have watched…it just put that powder glider in my mind again, but the wife says the quiver is full…life is tough
Ha!
Nah man, marriage is tough...quiver is never full :)
Ha!
When the wife told me that.
I tell her the same about her shoe quiver and if she buys a new pair of shoes I may buy a snowboard…
Whitin a few weeks….😀
"The wife says?" You can always lie about the price, or don't seek wooden stuff, don't buy watches, never start hunting and stay away from cars man. I honestly hope that my wife will look up the real price of all the things I have before she will sell them after I'm dead. 😅
would love to see a super doa review, thanks for all that you do!!
Thanks for the good words. Had one up for a while and reviews are super easy to find on my site. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/capita-super-doa-2020-2023-snowboard-review/
Thanks James! That powder looks FANTASTIC! What resort is that?
Thanks! It's Mt Bachelor over a few years.
Great and logical review as always James. Leaning back and pressing down on my back toe or heel on my Bataleon Surfer feels as good as mashing down the gas pedal of a muscle car, or as good as punching a high school bully in the nose. I was disappointed not to see it included.
Ha! Love your writing personality! I'll try to get back on that board for an extended demo and hopefully put it through it's paces against similar favorites in the deep deep.
Nice job James some great recommendations 👌 ❄👍thx
Many thanks!
Id love to see more reviews of the Prior lineup. I JUST purchased a Phalanx. Havent been able to hit the hill yet.... Anxious to try
We reviewed some in the past and they haven't changed so still relevant. Check the site. We stopped reviewing them when they stopped fulfilling orders. A lot of my readers were pissed to say the least when they paid for a Prior board but then never got one. If its certain they are functional and fulfilled or refunded all those customer orders in the past I'll reconsider reviewing.
@@thegoodridesnow well thats disconcerting! Part of the reason for getting one was I wanted to support a canadian product....I had no issues myself but that super shitty that orders were taken and not filled.....
Glad your order was fulfilled.
Love your reviews! 😍 Highly appreciated! 💪🏼 But no Gentemstick on a powder list really baffles me 😂😂😂
Thanks. Working on snowsurf favorites and Gentemstick Barracuda will be there. Not a pure pow board like these cuz its super fun on groomers too.
@@thegoodridesnow it is very cool that you do an individual snowsurf category! Can't wait! 🤙🏻But I have to ask - what makes your selection better in powder than for example a BigFish?
Good question. Next time I do this I'll elaborate more in the vid. Haven't tried the Big Fish so can't say. Hope to get on it one day if Gentemstick has one for demo. It's all personal preference but I liked these a little better in same day powder tests than most snowsurf/alt freeride boards I've tried. That being said most will be just fine with a really floaty Snowsurf or and Alt Freeride board because they can ride it on groomers too. This is more of the last board you add to the quiver and I often recommend Snowsurf/Alt Freeride for most because they are more versatile.
@@thegoodridesnow Thank you for your insights! 🙏🏼
Thanks for the good questions and if you have a Big Fish let me try it ;-)
I’m looking for a Pow board for bachelor. So many options ahhhh
Well if you are ever riding on weekdays hit me up through the site. If you are similar spec wise to me we can do a sampler.
Have you tried the Korua Pin Tonic (164) in ultra deep days? I mean when an Optimistic stalls after ten meters? And it has camber, and stability in every condition. And its nimble enough in thight forests. I wish it were a bit more lively... any other recommendations that have camber but float good (I consider the Optimistic not good)? Thanks
Yes I have and in very deep pow. I own the 164. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/korua-pin-tonic-snowboard-review/
Yeew! These all look awesome. I love my Storm Chaser split for deep days in the back country. Was going to get a solid for pow days at the resort, but now considering the 3D Fish instead. I'm a surfer, so looking for slashy nimble float on deep days. I love my Stratos split and solid for all mountain. How would you compare the 3D Fish to the Storm Chaser, esp for the chopped up pow in between freshies? If they'd kept the flat-to-rocker on the Mind Expander, it probably would have been my go-to for resort pow. Storm Chaser feels so good in un-touched, though, that the buckiness in-between may be worth it :-)
They are. Yeah if Jones still had surf rocker on the Mind Expander I'd say go with that. Not sure on your specs etc but the Fish sounds like a safer play if you are dealing with messy resort pow days. I agree with you on the Storm Chaser. When it's clean it's a hard board to beat but man it bucks in messy snow to the point it's just not fun to ride any more. Hit me up here if you want to get into this in more detail and get real advice. shop.thegoodride.com/merchandise/gear-advice/
This was helpful, thank you!
Thanks!
Have you considered trying the Burton Deep Daze? It's a really fun pow board. Especially in trees.
Just finished testing it. Review is coming eventually but my initial takes are up for members on Patreon and YT. Liked the Fish much better.
It would be interesting to hear how these board do once the pow gets chopped up. That's my biggest concern on a dedicated pow board, that they lose their magic later in the day.
If you click on the links to the full reviews you can get our take on how they perform after it's tracked up.
❤🙏
I’ve wanted the fish forever I think I’ll order one next season
Right on.
Just put together a powder/free ride setup.
2020/2021 162 Yes PYL with 2022 NOW Select Pro.
That will be fun. It won't float like these but it's a board you don't have to put away when the powder is done.
@@thegoodridesnow yeah I wanted something that can still be carvy and all mountain with some added benefit of stay on top of pow.
Have you ever ridden Chimera? I'm looking at getting the Sceptre splitboard next year
Yeah that will do. Especially if you ride a lot of steep terrain. No I haven't so can't really say anything about em till I do.
@@thegoodridesnow I'm on Loveland, A-Basin mostly. Close to home in Golden.
Spring break 🙌🏼FTW
if you can get your hands on the NeverSummer Valhalla you gotta try it out! itll definitely make your list
Testing it now. Fun board but really digging the Cougar. So far it's the highlight of my test with the Shape Shifter, Proto Fr, Valhalla, Easy Rider and Swift. I have some vids up for early access members here and more to come. www.patreon.com/thegoodride
Cougar? Post it!
Its up for early access subscribers and the full review will be live late summer early fall.
keep doing these please!! Alt freeride next!!!
I'll be working on that this coming week but it might take a while. Lot's more boards on the list.
How does the old mind expander stack up with these
Oh man! The old Mind expander would have been on the list. It would have been a stiffer alternative to the Powder Glider.
What size did you ride the powder twin in
56 and 59. If u click through to the review its there
I actually ended up with a 3d Deep Daze I got on sale. Heard great things about this one as well.
Check our review. thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/burton-3d-deep-daze-powder-snowboard-review/ hope it works for you.
Can we get a alternative freeride? Carving+powder machines
Working on it.
@@thegoodridesnow hoping to see the flag ship😅 just added it to my mind expander twin, feels like it would be a great 2 board quiver imo
Ha! That will compliment your ME Twin really well as a 2 board quiver and give you much more directional float if you can use those set back inserts.
@@thegoodridesnow i actually do
Love the twin anytime and anywhere but did want a directional beast for carving and deep depp pow
Im eyeing up some deals on a 2023 157 Powder Racer since I prefer a little camber. Im 6'4" 170 size 12 boot & currently ride a 157 Stalefish in powder. I love it, but I was just considering the Powder Racer for a little more width & maybe making for a smoother ride(less boot overhang dragging in pow). I ride a lot of Tahoe trees & need a nimble board. How would you compare these two boards? Should I just be happy with my Stalefish? Thanks!
The tail on those Pow Racers is pretty narrow for 12's. The Stalefish is a much better board for your specs. If you want to try something else out check out the Soul Blower 162, Korua Dart 160 or Mellow 160.
I have that fish 3d that you do in the video and a deep daze and find that they do not glide very well . my old fish was very fast . have you experienced this with the newer Burton boards ? thanks very much
Yeah check the full review of the 3D fish and what I had to do to get the base to glide well. It's better this year and I owned the Deep Daze 2023 too. It had better glide than my 2021 3D fish and worked best with Burton wax but yeah they don't have the fastest bases any more.
So I gotta ask how does the powder glider measure up against the 162cm Spring Break Tree Hunter , i bought that and the 158cm Mind Expander based on your reccomendations a few years back as the boards that offered more float than anything else.
Also how does the golden orca measure up against the spring break powder twin ?
Oh that Tree Hunter was special. I think you are good with that and the old rocker ME. Golden Orca is much more directional, has taper, set back on sidecut, set back on board, a slower base and a pretty different overall ride compared to the perfectly centered Capita Pow Twin
How does the Korua Pin Tonic 172 float compared to the Spring Break Boards?
Hoping to find out soon. Some are on the way. They should carve up groomers incredibly well too so prob not a pure pow ride.
I thought you have a jones mind expander or two and that is your favorite powder board ? In your other video you say it’s what you compare powder boards to
That was before they added camber to it. Check the updated review. Still very fun just not the pow board it used to be.
@@thegoodridesnow gotcha. I am looking to pick up a older version of the board. I think it’s a 2019. Is that legit for powder ?
@@thegoodridesnow or a even better question, which year mind expander is your favorite for powder
Super legit. In 2019 it was a favorite and one of the top recommendations for pow.
They were all excellent for pow before this season so go with what you can get 2022 and below.
How does the endeavor archetype compare to these? Nitro squash?
These all float easier than those boards. The Archetype didn't float that well for us compared to many swallow tails but it really carved groomers well. Felt like more of a big mountain/steep terrain board. Struggled more than I thought it would in low angle pow. Squash felt more floaty than the Archetype.. Great for high speed groomer carves and could easily work as your pow board but not as floasty as these by a good bit. Not very turny either so if you like a turny board I would pass.
@@thegoodridesnow Hell-boarding trip in the Canadian Rockies… what board are you taking?
Probably a bank loan first. Then my Fish, Blower and Pow Glider for different conditions I might see.
No Korua?!?!? Why?
Ahh, so powder only board
Yep. Some Korua will be in the Snowsurf and Alt Freeride favorites though. Love those boards but they just carve groomers soo hard they don't belong here. If you go here thegoodride.com/snowboard-reviews/?mens=1 you can see our favorites if you hit the favorite filter.
@@thegoodridesnow I own several koruas, largely because of your reviews. All my friends are now getting on them as well. Can't bring one on a trip without them "borrowing" for a day.
Glad they helped and stoked your buddy rental program is over !