7:14 Honestly it looks to me like the pin is bent before you even put the CPU in Greg. It seems to sit slightly lower than the rest when I zoom in. Not sure if this is on you tbh (referring to S04E20 fix or flop)
Couple years back I got this cpu used for 10 dollars from an online auction. I paired it with a cheap aliexpress motherboard and now my mom uses it to do her crosswords.
My wife asked me to build her a gaming computer. She didn't tell me what games she would be playing. Women are like that. The total build cost was nearly $2000. When I watched her playing on it, I was stunned. She was playing MS Solitare.
No miscommunication. Her PC died, and I built her one using parts from my spare parts bin. Her favorite game is MS Solitaire, which she plays for hours.@@EmergencyChannel
@Greg Salazar, the issue with the build is that the x58 chipset only supports a total of 24GB of memory, in 6x 4GB sticks maximum. The system is getting hung up on the memory issue. If you swap the current kit for a set of 4GB DIMMs you will be fine. I hope this helps. As always great content.
I have a Asus P6T mobo with 48GB of ram installed on it, and it runs with no problems whatsoever. Multiple sources say that even 96GB of ram is even possible if you use a Xeon CPU.
Good point, but he is using a consumer grade i7. With possible BIOS hacks it may work, but given it was never used, it would default to the 24GB maximum. If you Google the motherboard it states 24GB maximum memory.
x58 is a lot harder to stabilize with 6 dimms too. I tried 3x4 and 3x2 but it kept not seeing 2 of the dimms for some reason. Not sure if its the x5650 having issues cause I haven't tried any of my other x58 chips with the 18gb configuration yet. I have read though that running 6 dimms is difficult to stabilize if overclocking.@@nathan_tasker
@@opoxious1592 I too have the P6T board that was paired with a i7 930 and a R9 390X. And mine wouldn't post with more than 24gb of ram in it. I have since upgraded to a Xeon X5690 but I no longer have larger than 4gb sticks of DDR3 to confirm that.
Just a note here, the ASUS X58 Sabertooth board does have USB 3.0 on the rear, but no front panel USB 3.0. This was the first generation to have USB 3.0. Love to see old hardware being used like this though, I have a lot of nostalgia for X58, the Xeons were excellent for this platform in the later years. Just a shame you weren't able to get it working, I wish you luck with figuring it out.
I remember the first generation of motherboards with the USB 3.0 on the rear IO only, there were several cases released at that time that used a pass through cable to have a USB 3.0 front IO.
@@richardfarmer6570 You have a good point there, I've seen a few like that with the passthrough cables, I got into using X58 for systems when the Xeons got cheap, so the solution was either leave USB 3.0 unplugged or use a PCIe card.
It does have rear USB 3.0 as the standard for the header had not yet been invented. Cases of the era all had rear passthrough, many doing it very hackily using the watercooling tube ports that were still common but not often used. fun fact it has the original NEC chip which was dead reliable. that was later sold to asmedia which AMD later partnered with to design and make their chipsets.
man this takes me back. I was a freshman in college looking up old linus vids back in the day to build my first pc. I had an i7860 which was on the other platform(lga1156) i think since the i7920/930 or whatever was different. . That paired with the gtx 470 that came out that year, my pc was near top tier back in summer 2010 then. I also remember the huge debacle with hyperthreading back then and how everyone was laughing at "fake cores" or whatever. Those cpus lasted a very very long time and i still stand by my statement from over a decade ago that you were trolling to not get a quad core with hyperthreading. That specific cpu greg has retailed at $1000 buck during release, i specifically remembered that and was going hell nah. That and my other favorite memory lane event was the following year gpu wise when the gtx 465 came out and everyone was trying to flash them into 470s, man what a time that was
Motherboard probably needs a bios update to support all of that ram, since its likely running an early bios. Most people at that time were using 12gb, even 24gb was kind of rare and overkill. I would try for a post using 4gb dimms and go from there
motherboard and ram, X58 6 slot boards only had support for 24GB MAX, it can only a 4GB Stick per DIMM slot 4x6= 24 Max, Greg's configuration is a six 8GB sticks of DDR3 it should totally work it's just the chipset for x58 on 6 slot motherboard's, because the Mac pro 4,1 5,1 used LGA 1366 cpu's running on the X58 chipset with configurations for 8 and 4 DIMM slots that can hold up to hold 196GB of ram, those DDR3 slot's could handle up to 16GB of RDIMM memory, so greg if your eading this you should get six 4 GIG sticks of corsair or any brand with 1600Mhz or higher used market is the best. Good luck hope this helped
My First Extreme Build was the Intel 4960x with 32GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum ram the Asus Rampage board of the era of ivy Lake. The ram alone was $890 from NCIX the Cpu $1100 and I didn't even have a sata drive at that time. That build lasted until I built my x299 7980Xe Rig. I gave the ivy Lake build to my nephew so he could have a rig to help him stream 😂
I have an ancient throwback rig. It probably uses that referenced gigabyte motherboard. I use 2 IDE hard drives and 1 SSD. 4 IDE USB drives, DVD burner and Blu-ray player. The cpu is a FX 4170. GPU is a XFX Radeon R7 260X. And finally 12gb ddr3 ram. Thermaltake V3 black edition case.
I personally appreciate the humble posting of this video. PC building is not always straightforward or easy, so seeing this video is completely understandable. Was a fun watch! EDIT: Looking forward to the fix or flop episode!!
X-58 was one of my favourite platforms, i still have one modded with a xeon 5660 and a radeon 590 with 24 gigs of ram,it even runs a win11 lite (spectre) version. It doesnt hold a candle to my modern pc but i still love it.
x58 was an AWESOME platform! I used an x5675 and a GTX 1080 until just a couple of years ago. I think I bought the whole system used for $150 back in 2016ish. Had quad SLI 9500 GTs! Served me well. I think the compatibility with the 6 core xeons and the triple channel memory really helped extend the life of these systems.
You can see the DRAM light is lit up on the post lights, im watching this vid on the exact same board and a X5680 6-core in there. I suspect maybe the Bios isnt updated if its never been booted, and 48GB was for later revisions, i think 24GB was maxed out in the beginning, i defo could be wrong.... I for one cant wait to see this old but so very very new Tech to be posted and let her breath some of that fresh fresh air bud....
@@GregSalazar Oh i fully understand that sir, its taken for granted alot these days i feel, not so common at all out the box support, as its one of the 1st Gen i-7's...Tbh, this probs time spent tinkering wise, is my most worked on socket i think, LGA 1366...Just love tinkering with all the old kit...Its great dude, I mean compared too todays stuff, its literally , 1 core of say a 10th Gen i-9 would probs beat an all core i-7 980X On cinibench. Holy goodness, that would actually be Comical... 🤣🤣🤣(P.S Salazar Sir) Cant wait to see this episode of F'o'FLOP..... Oh i love it bro, Cant wait to see if ive ever had the problems u have with this board.
Gosh this brings back memories! I built two computers with this motherboard, one was even a used board from Fry's which had bent pins. Got it to work, I ended up using Xeon X5690 and X5680. I remember having to update the bios using slower chips. It seemed to want to work forever! Ended up having to replace the power supplies and the fans on the CPU cooler. Gave both systems away and I know one is still working at a friends house and he does newsletters with it. Solid motherboard!
It really got me when you said it was over a decade old and you were a freshman in high school. Like, when I was in school, we had 386 and 486 computers and Pentiums weren't a thing until after I graduated High School. lol Damn I am old.
Man, this brings up good memories! This babies went up to 4.5Ghz more than a decade ago! X58 was the best PC platform ever made, afaic. As for the POST problem, I bet is the memory; we used 4GB sticks at the time for a total of 24GB.
I was still using my X58 system until earlier this year. Technically it still runs 24/7 but it's now just running Folding at Home. i7-920 @ 3.6GHz, MSI X58 Pro, 24 GB RAM. One of my favorite builds.
That processor brings me way back. It was in the first PC I built for myself. I used it with an Asus P6T MB, 24GB of RAM. and a Radeon HD 5970. So much nostalgia even if the GPU wasn't period-accurate. I really hope you can get it up and running. But since debug LEDs weren't a thing back then it could be a serious pain in the ass. I remember getting so frustrated I ended up buying a debug board that plugged into the TPM header that would allow you to debug the post issues. I was so happy when they started adding debug LEDs and the the segmented displays with post codes.
This brings me back to when i built my Intel i7 920 back in 2010 Asus P6X58D Premium mother board and 12 Gig triple channel memory. since I built it I am now using SSD's for storage and just put in an AIO Corsair H50. I really injoy watching Fix or Flop. Thanks
My gosh, this was a throwback for me too. My first pc build was in 2011, and I didn't know much. I ended up building with an amd 1090t and I used an antec 1200 V3 and the coolermaster V8.
One time back in 2010, Fry's Electronics had the i7-980x on sale for something like $700. I had a gift card so I decided to buy one of these but Fry's was out of stock. I even went there on Friday, mid-day, before the weekend rush. About three years ago I found the i7-980x, Rampage III Extreme, and 12GB of the OCZ Heatreaper RAM combo on Offerup for around $130. It had been sitting around for over 10 years before the original owner decided to sell it. I actually had trouble getting it to run at first. What got it running was I cleaned the two CPU 8-Pin connectors with CRC Electronics cleaner and a brush. The PSU was a new EVGA 1200w unit so that wasn't the problem. The i7-980x overclocks surprisingly well, but not as well as my Xeon X5690.
Bought the Antec Performance 1 FT (vanilla black) for my build, and i am so eager to start building in it :D Thanks for yet another awesome video Greg :D hope you are having a good one :)
Once I saw the red light near the RAM staying on, I knew exactly what the problem was, lol! Definitely doesn’t like the RAM. Super ironic, just wrapped up building a windows 7 throwback PC on this same board tonight! Threw a Xeon X5660 in there and paired it with a couple of GTX 580’s in SLI. It’ll play anything from that era (2010/2011) extremely well. Modern games, maybe not so much, but those old ones were running great. Thanks for the video!
Former user here with a lot of troubleshooting done on an X58 (Gigabyte G1-Guerilla) Double check the RAM and be sure it's fully seated. Remove all the memory and go one by one installing-checking-installing next. Mine had to have slot 1 populated regardless of how you wanted to configure the RAM so you could have slot 1 populated but if the module was not well seated the PC would not POST even if you had more modules installed. And from my X55 MB. It had USB3, SATA3 and PCI Express16x. It just couldn't have all 3 at the same time. So if you feel the graphics is running a little slow, check if it's running at 8x instead of 16x. I enjoy your videos so keep it up!
Antec cases were the GOAT back in the day, still driving my old I7 860 an antec case and fans running strong after 13 years. These new cases look pretty good and are affordable for what you get.
I had an Antec Sonata on my first PC build. I don't remember much about the parts, the processor was one of the last of the single core and the GPU was the 6800GT. Used it for many years.
After reading some of the comments. I would also have to agree. From what the motherboard manual says. I only see 6gig sticks as being the max size. It actually even says at the top of the manual to use up to 4gig sticks.
Old tech looks better than modern tech, it just does. Even the boxes of older graphics cards were always so incredible and made you dream/wise there was a game version of it. The cooler itself looked like something out of a video game, the card looks amazing. Everything together just makes it look so great. Modern stuff is just boring with some flashy, pretty lights. The boxes are boring and just says "graphics card. Wow." in plain English. Coolers are just chunks of metal with a fan(almost identical to the stock cooler from the video actually), etc. Love the imagination we had back in the day. Nothing but cold science now.
I have that exact mobo, with a 940 and 24 gigs of DDR3....since been put out of use, but still have the motherboard box and everything that came with it.
I was 18 years old when this CPU was released, we might be close in age. While I was not interested in building PCs at all then, I've got X58 bloodrage mobo yesterday. I'm excited to build with it, too. It's exciting to combine modern parts with legendary old parts.
At the beginning of the lockdown i pulled out my old 58x rig. It was my first completely new rig i built. Mine had the i7 920 with asus rampage 2 and a hd 5870. I upgraded it with a W3690 @ 4.3ghz and a rx 580. I remember overclocking the 920 but i got a dud and couldn't get past 3ghz. Was fun to pull the old guy outta retirement and play some old, and some newer games!
Nice. I used to have a beautiful X58 build in a mostly glass case to show off the components. It was a Gigabyte GA-EX58-Extreme mobo - with a funky heatpipe/finstack for cooling the chipset - even had fittings for water cooling the chipset! CPU was a Xeon X5687, six 4GB Corsair DIMMs in blue and black, to match the colors on the motherboard. Had my eyes on a blue Sapphire RX580 Nitro to complete the build, but ended up selling the lot for lack of space.
I have an old X58 rig that I used all the way upto 2019. I have it in a Cooler Master HAF XM with a i7 980X, MSI X58 Big Bang xPower, 24GB of DDR3-2400, and dual GTX 780 in SLI. I loved that machine. I built it in 2016 after college. I got a really good bundle of parts for a cheap price back then. I ran the i7 980X at 4.6Ghz at 1.35V and I managed to get the ram to work at DDR3-2000. That was the hard limit on the IMC. I have heard that if you run 3x8GB dimms instead of 6x4GB dimms, you can get better speeds and tighter timings but I didn't want to spend the money for that. One of my GTX 780s failed so in 2017, I bought a R9 Fury X to replace the SLI pair but since I don't use the rig anymore, I put my two GTX 780s back in just for looks. I might try and get up and running just to revisit it. I do have a pair of HD 7990s now in my collection, which is much more period appropriate for the platform and would look pretty dang baller. :3c
I've done some old PC hardware in newer cases and I found out it's good to have several extensions or adapters handy. For example, there are USB 3 extensions that are flexible and look much cleaner than the big 'ol plug that always comes with the cases. Makes the build look cleaner in terms of cable management. In this situation, where the front panel header doesn't match the case plug, there are front panel extensions that have the plug at one end and separated pins at the other like in most cases. These adapters and extensions are cheap and normally found at amazon in packs of 2 or 3.
nice to see LGA1366 I love this platform, I always wanted an LGA1366 PC so I have a secondary "retro" gaming LGA1366 PC with a Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 (rev. 2.0) with a Xeon W3670 @4ghz and 3x8gb 1600mhz ram and I use a few different GPUs usually a GTX 950 but I also have a GTX 750 2gb and a HD4670, I have to try some modern games on it with my RTX 3060, it's running W7 ultimate, I use it for games that don't run on w10 anymore.
RTX 3060 should do pretty well. I ran a GTX 1080 in my X58 system with a X5670 @ 4.4GHz and it games at 1080p pretty well. I now have the 1080 in my new (to me) X299 system with an i9-10900X and in most games there's barely any difference. Though LGA1366 CPUs don't have AVX and AVX2 so some newer games wont launch
If you start with 1 ram stick, then restart and add the next one, repeat until you have added all ram sticks. And it will probably work. 48gb is fully doable on this platform. But x58 is very finicky with ram training.
I've still got a Sabertooth x58 build with an i7 920 and a Geforce 9800gt. It has a WD 1TB drive for boot, and 6 Samsung 2TB drives in a hardware raid 5 array for file storage. Coincidentally, it's in an Antec silent full tower case from the same era ~2010, don't recall the model number. It takes up 10x the space and uses 4x the power of a modern NAS while being considerably slower.
was the perfect inbetween high enough you could oc but none of that extra garbage to get in the way or die. Its a sad thing they killed off like line. Some of its siblings were the best boards in the era's for budget builds as well. Now we just get 15 different ROG SKU's and cost cut garbage.
I built a similar system last year. I came across an Asus P6T deluxe mobo on ebay that was basically new and I still had my i7 940 from back in the day and 24gb of corsair 1600mhz ddr3. Bought a new case, a cheap Zalman, off Amazon. I had an evga 650w modular 80+gold psu in my spare parts drawer I used and a spare 1tb ssd. Tossed in my old evga gtx 970. I had the most trouble finding a cooler to work with the lga 1336 socket. After it was done I took it to work to play skyrim and some other older games.
My MSI R9 390 Gaming 8G used to game at a steady 94c, and of course as we all know, there was no hotspot sensor back then, so i can only imagine what that would have read. My friends been using it for the last 4 years since i grabbed the 5700XT at launch, he plays gmod, and gta 5, and halo MCC on it perfectly fine. They run hot, but they sure were built for it.
I have this same build with the 950 and same motherboard. It’s in a Corsair case with 24G ram. I was going to bring it to you for fix or flop but figured it wouldn’t be worth your time or mine. Still it would be nice to have it working again!
Very cool, especially that Cooler Master V8 GTS tower cooler! I remember shopping for a Cooler Master Sphere cooler, that thing looked really awesome at the time...!
Yoo Greg, what a build and blast from the past. I remember reading about this cpu it was outta my range. So glad you have one well preserved (s.o to Hank).
Interesting build. Looking forward to finding out what the problem was. Would also like to see workarounds that enable older gear to work in newer boxes, like add-on cards to enable USB-C and front panel 3.0, etc.
I loved the video. We get so many videos talking about new hardware and upgrade paths but no one EVER upgrades. Most people who bought this platform either maxed out from the beginning or stuck with an i7-920 and sold the platform a few years later. I would love a video showing how to upgrade a platform like this to meet basic modern needs like, an alternative to the power switch, adding USB 3.0 PCIe support, WIFI, and other small quality-of-life upgrades that can be made. Adding a GTX 980 or 980Ti if the R9 290 is the problem. I would love a video showing how a maxed-out 10 - 12-year-old build like this holds up in modern titles at reasonable settings. Awesome video!
Sadly drivers for hardware that age are going to be your biggest issue. For Win10 your running on base built in drivers and thats it. Architectures this old are missing things modern OS's and software assume you have. Also this is SATA II gen still the onboard 3rd party SATAIII was garbage even in its day. Then they carried that same chip over to the X79 version of the board annoyingly.
I saw in the box that there were quick connects for that board. Just connect the front panel wires to the quick connect as labeled and it goes on the front panel header of this board, weird as it is.
I’ve always used jumper cables (like the ones you get in classes to wire up a breadboard) to rewire front panel headers. Also need to start looking into Antec’s cases. Most of my recent cases are Deepcool but that case does look very nice for a non-tempered glass build
Asus sabre tuff military color scheme. Corsair had a military themed case called the vengeance c70 to match. I always add usb 3.0 pci express cards to older systems.
The X58 plateform is by far my favorite! Still have my original one and it's on this that i learned to overclock and tinker with pc's! Mine has a Xeon x5675 overclocked to 4.5ghz paired with an rx580 8gig and beleive it or not, but it still runs almost every title! I use it for Retro console games connected to my tv!
You'd get a giggle from my full-tower 2nd gen i7 system. It has an old, old Cooler Master case with a built-in-the-top-of-the-case SATA drive bay, many hard drive slots and both 5 1/4 and 3.5" drive bays. And a Fatal1ty motherboard with a dedicated serial-mouse port. That old throwback still runs Unreal Tournament and StarCraft very well indeed.
You might want to try and see it will post with different ram. That setup isn't much different then what I was using all the way up till 2022. I had a Antec 300 case (still use it in my current rig) with a intel i7 965 Extreme edition clocked around 3.2ghz. The mobo was a Asus P6T (original not deluxe or SE editions) with 24 GB of DDR3 ram. (had all 6 ram slots populated at one point). Knowing that are you sure that board can do 48GB? Try smaller modules for a 24GB setup and see if it posts with that. I'd still be using it to this day but the slow boot times even with SSD meant that it was finally time to upgrade. I went from that to a 4th gen i7 rig. My current rig is Antec 300 case but now with a Dell 9020MT mobo put in with the nessecery adapters to make it work on my PSU and front panel connections. It has a 4th gen i7 clocked around 3.4 or so. Currently got 16GB of DDR3 ram in it. It can max to 32GB but I haven't found the money to do that yet. The boot drive is a NVME dropped into a PCIE slot with an adapter. The mobo doesn't normally support booting from NVME, but I flashed a modified UEFI to the board to support it. :D I upgraded this mostly for budget reasons as it also saved me from having to get new ram. If i upgrade again gen 10 is probably the highest I'll go for now. Nothing about the newer gens really makes any sense for my use case. The video card I was using in the old rig was a GTX 650 but in 2021 I upgraded it to a GTX 780Ti. Still using the 780ti in my current rig. As for my case I still use it because it's got 3 optical drive bays. I'd love to upgrade to something that would let me vertically mount my GPU so I can reclaim the PCIE slot below it but as far as I can tell vertical mount cases with at least 2 optical drive bays don't seem to exist.... :(
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7:14 Honestly it looks to me like the pin is bent before you even put the CPU in Greg. It seems to sit slightly lower than the rest when I zoom in.
Not sure if this is on you tbh (referring to S04E20 fix or flop)
Couple years back I got this cpu used for 10 dollars from an online auction. I paired it with a cheap aliexpress motherboard and now my mom uses it to do her crosswords.
sounds like retirement home for this once mighty CPU
My wife asked me to build her a gaming computer. She didn't tell me what games she would be playing. Women are like that. The total build cost was nearly $2000. When I watched her playing on it, I was stunned. She was playing MS Solitare.
@@outlet6989easy solution is to communicate and ask what she wants to play
@outlet6989 You built a $2000 PC without asking your wife what games she wanted to play? Sounds like your relationship has communication problems.
No miscommunication. Her PC died, and I built her one using parts from my spare parts bin. Her favorite game is MS Solitaire, which she plays for hours.@@EmergencyChannel
@Greg Salazar, the issue with the build is that the x58 chipset only supports a total of 24GB of memory, in 6x 4GB sticks maximum. The system is getting hung up on the memory issue. If you swap the current kit for a set of 4GB DIMMs you will be fine. I hope this helps. As always great content.
I have a Asus P6T mobo with 48GB of ram installed on it, and it runs with no problems whatsoever.
Multiple sources say that even 96GB of ram is even possible if you use a Xeon CPU.
Good point, but he is using a consumer grade i7. With possible BIOS hacks it may work, but given it was never used, it would default to the 24GB maximum. If you Google the motherboard it states 24GB maximum memory.
thats the first problem i saw when he was building with 8gb per slot. 2010 was simpler times and 4gb is the standard back then
x58 is a lot harder to stabilize with 6 dimms too. I tried 3x4 and 3x2 but it kept not seeing 2 of the dimms for some reason. Not sure if its the x5650 having issues cause I haven't tried any of my other x58 chips with the 18gb configuration yet. I have read though that running 6 dimms is difficult to stabilize if overclocking.@@nathan_tasker
@@opoxious1592 I too have the P6T board that was paired with a i7 930 and a R9 390X. And mine wouldn't post with more than 24gb of ram in it. I have since upgraded to a Xeon X5690 but I no longer have larger than 4gb sticks of DDR3 to confirm that.
Just a note here, the ASUS X58 Sabertooth board does have USB 3.0 on the rear, but no front panel USB 3.0. This was the first generation to have USB 3.0.
Love to see old hardware being used like this though, I have a lot of nostalgia for X58, the Xeons were excellent for this platform in the later years. Just a shame you weren't able to get it working, I wish you luck with figuring it out.
I remember the first generation of motherboards with the USB 3.0 on the rear IO only, there were several cases released at that time that used a pass through cable to have a USB 3.0 front IO.
Could buy a pci e 3.0 and c header adapter card. Just to make the case fully functional.
@@richardfarmer6570 You have a good point there, I've seen a few like that with the passthrough cables, I got into using X58 for systems when the Xeons got cheap, so the solution was either leave USB 3.0 unplugged or use a PCIe card.
It does have rear USB 3.0 as the standard for the header had not yet been invented. Cases of the era all had rear passthrough, many doing it very hackily using the watercooling tube ports that were still common but not often used.
fun fact it has the original NEC chip which was dead reliable. that was later sold to asmedia which AMD later partnered with to design and make their chipsets.
I just add a 5.25 inch usb 3 front panel. We used to run a pass through cable before usb 3 front headers existed.
man this takes me back. I was a freshman in college looking up old linus vids back in the day to build my first pc. I had an i7860 which was on the other platform(lga1156) i think since the i7920/930 or whatever was different. . That paired with the gtx 470 that came out that year, my pc was near top tier back in summer 2010 then. I also remember the huge debacle with hyperthreading back then and how everyone was laughing at "fake cores" or whatever. Those cpus lasted a very very long time and i still stand by my statement from over a decade ago that you were trolling to not get a quad core with hyperthreading.
That specific cpu greg has retailed at $1000 buck during release, i specifically remembered that and was going hell nah. That and my other favorite memory lane event was the following year gpu wise when the gtx 465 came out and everyone was trying to flash them into 470s, man what a time that was
Thanks!
Motherboard probably needs a bios update to support all of that ram, since its likely running an early bios. Most people at that time were using 12gb, even 24gb was kind of rare and overkill. I would try for a post using 4gb dimms and go from there
Just wrapped up the filming of the FoF episode around this one. Wasn't memory or BIOS related, surprisingly :-)
motherboard and ram, X58 6 slot boards only had support for 24GB MAX, it can only a 4GB Stick per DIMM slot 4x6= 24 Max, Greg's configuration is a six 8GB sticks of DDR3 it should totally work it's just the chipset for x58 on 6 slot motherboard's, because the Mac pro 4,1 5,1 used LGA 1366 cpu's running on the X58 chipset with configurations for 8 and 4 DIMM slots that can hold up to hold 196GB of ram, those DDR3 slot's could handle up to 16GB of RDIMM memory, so greg if your eading this you should get six 4 GIG sticks of corsair or any brand with 1600Mhz or higher used market is the best. Good luck hope this helped
im so dumb i didnt see his comment above 💀
the only other hardware-physical thing i could think of would be to reseat the CPU... @@GregSalazar
The good news is Extreme has more PCIe lanes than the regular 115x system, so you can add a USB-C / USB 3 card.
My First Extreme Build was the Intel 4960x with 32GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum ram the Asus Rampage board of the era of ivy Lake. The ram alone was $890 from NCIX the Cpu $1100 and I didn't even have a sata drive at that time. That build lasted until I built my x299 7980Xe Rig. I gave the ivy Lake build to my nephew so he could have a rig to help him stream 😂
I have an ancient throwback rig. It probably uses that referenced gigabyte motherboard. I use 2 IDE hard drives and 1 SSD. 4 IDE USB drives, DVD burner and Blu-ray player. The cpu is a FX 4170. GPU is a XFX Radeon R7 260X. And finally 12gb ddr3 ram. Thermaltake V3 black edition case.
I personally appreciate the humble posting of this video. PC building is not always straightforward or easy, so seeing this video is completely understandable. Was a fun watch! EDIT: Looking forward to the fix or flop episode!!
X-58 was one of my favourite platforms, i still have one modded with a xeon 5660 and a radeon 590 with 24 gigs of ram,it even runs a win11 lite (spectre) version. It doesnt hold a candle to my modern pc but i still love it.
by far my favorite build you've put together
great job!
x58 was an AWESOME platform! I used an x5675 and a GTX 1080 until just a couple of years ago. I think I bought the whole system used for $150 back in 2016ish. Had quad SLI 9500 GTs! Served me well. I think the compatibility with the 6 core xeons and the triple channel memory really helped extend the life of these systems.
I used my x58 up until just a few years ago. Ran beautifully, probably still runs.
Same here, used a i7 920 until April 2023 then upgraded. Great platform / build.
You can see the DRAM light is lit up on the post lights, im watching this vid on the exact same board and a X5680 6-core in there. I suspect maybe the Bios isnt updated if its never been booted, and 48GB was for later revisions, i think 24GB was maxed out in the beginning, i defo could be wrong.... I for one cant wait to see this old but so very very new Tech to be posted and let her breath some of that fresh fresh air bud....
This board supported this CPU out-of-the-box. Confirmed on their website. We figured out what the problem was and will reveal in FoF S4E20 👍
@@GregSalazar Oh i fully understand that sir, its taken for granted alot these days i feel, not so common at all out the box support, as its one of the 1st Gen i-7's...Tbh, this probs time spent tinkering wise, is my most worked on socket i think, LGA 1366...Just love tinkering with all the old kit...Its great dude, I mean compared too todays stuff, its literally , 1 core of say a 10th Gen i-9 would probs beat an all core i-7 980X On cinibench. Holy goodness, that would actually be Comical... 🤣🤣🤣(P.S Salazar Sir) Cant wait to see this episode of F'o'FLOP..... Oh i love it bro, Cant wait to see if ive ever had the problems u have with this board.
Gosh this brings back memories! I built two computers with this motherboard, one was even a used board from Fry's which had bent pins. Got it to work, I ended up using Xeon X5690 and X5680. I remember having to update the bios using slower chips. It seemed to want to work forever! Ended up having to replace the power supplies and the fans on the CPU cooler. Gave both systems away and I know one is still working at a friends house and he does newsletters with it. Solid motherboard!
It really got me when you said it was over a decade old and you were a freshman in high school. Like, when I was in school, we had 386 and 486 computers and Pentiums weren't a thing until after I graduated High School. lol
Damn I am old.
Watching this made me really happy. Thank you for the video!
Man, this brings up good memories! This babies went up to 4.5Ghz more than a decade ago! X58 was the best PC platform ever made, afaic. As for the POST problem, I bet is the memory; we used 4GB sticks at the time for a total of 24GB.
I was still using my X58 system until earlier this year. Technically it still runs 24/7 but it's now just running Folding at Home. i7-920 @ 3.6GHz, MSI X58 Pro, 24 GB RAM. One of my favorite builds.
That processor brings me way back. It was in the first PC I built for myself. I used it with an Asus P6T MB, 24GB of RAM. and a Radeon HD 5970. So much nostalgia even if the GPU wasn't period-accurate. I really hope you can get it up and running. But since debug LEDs weren't a thing back then it could be a serious pain in the ass. I remember getting so frustrated I ended up buying a debug board that plugged into the TPM header that would allow you to debug the post issues. I was so happy when they started adding debug LEDs and the the segmented displays with post codes.
Black, no rgb, no frills. The best kind of builds.
This brings me back to when i built my Intel i7 920 back in 2010 Asus P6X58D Premium mother board and 12 Gig triple channel memory. since I built it I am now using SSD's for storage and just put in an AIO Corsair H50. I really injoy watching Fix or Flop. Thanks
My gosh, this was a throwback for me too. My first pc build was in 2011, and I didn't know much. I ended up building with an amd 1090t and I used an antec 1200 V3 and the coolermaster V8.
Very cool throwback. Thanks for sharing!
I got this on a prime sale for my son. It's a great case. Nifty little temp sensor display but it's tall enough where it doesn't get used much
dang, i remember building a 3970x and 680's sli with 32 gigs of ram back in the day. Love seeing this old hardware!
One time back in 2010, Fry's Electronics had the i7-980x on sale for something like $700. I had a gift card so I decided to buy one of these but Fry's was out of stock. I even went there on Friday, mid-day, before the weekend rush.
About three years ago I found the i7-980x, Rampage III Extreme, and 12GB of the OCZ Heatreaper RAM combo on Offerup for around $130. It had been sitting around for over 10 years before the original owner decided to sell it. I actually had trouble getting it to run at first. What got it running was I cleaned the two CPU 8-Pin connectors with CRC Electronics cleaner and a brush. The PSU was a new EVGA 1200w unit so that wasn't the problem.
The i7-980x overclocks surprisingly well, but not as well as my Xeon X5690.
dude, i always wanted a Sabertooth but couldnt justify the price in getting one, so seeing this was awesome! Thanks for this Greg! 😎
Thanks for watching!
looking forward to seeing the fix or flop episode on this
Great video. Can't wait for the Fix or Flop video for this system.
Hey greg, when will you make the video to share your experience with mac studio after a month? I look forward for it!
Nice build, it's like the opposite of a sleeper.
The case looks great, still got my antec 300 from 2009.
Bought the Antec Performance 1 FT (vanilla black) for my build, and i am so eager to start building in it :D
Thanks for yet another awesome video Greg :D hope you are having a good one :)
i actually admin an X58 facebook group youd be surprised how many people still have love for this old platform
Swing and a miss! Still a fun video. Merry Christmas, Greg!
Once I saw the red light near the RAM staying on, I knew exactly what the problem was, lol! Definitely doesn’t like the RAM.
Super ironic, just wrapped up building a windows 7 throwback PC on this same board tonight! Threw a Xeon X5660 in there and paired it with a couple of GTX 580’s in SLI. It’ll play anything from that era (2010/2011) extremely well. Modern games, maybe not so much, but those old ones were running great.
Thanks for the video!
Need that FoF episode asap!
Former user here with a lot of troubleshooting done on an X58 (Gigabyte G1-Guerilla) Double check the RAM and be sure it's fully seated. Remove all the memory and go one by one installing-checking-installing next. Mine had to have slot 1 populated regardless of how you wanted to configure the RAM so you could have slot 1 populated but if the module was not well seated the PC would not POST even if you had more modules installed. And from my X55 MB. It had USB3, SATA3 and PCI Express16x. It just couldn't have all 3 at the same time. So if you feel the graphics is running a little slow, check if it's running at 8x instead of 16x. I enjoy your videos so keep it up!
Bloody loved this video. Hope to see more like this. Old hardware/new case, old vintage case/new hardware etc would be a fantastic series
Get a pcie adapter for your USB 3 internal adapter, it might also be available with a USB c interface...
Antec cases were the GOAT back in the day, still driving my old I7 860 an antec case and fans running strong after 13 years. These new cases look pretty good and are affordable for what you get.
I had an Antec Sonata on my first PC build. I don't remember much about the parts, the processor was one of the last of the single core and the GPU was the 6800GT. Used it for many years.
After reading some of the comments. I would also have to agree. From what the motherboard manual says. I only see 6gig sticks as being the max size. It actually even says at the top of the manual to use up to 4gig sticks.
looking forward to seeing this working
Old tech looks better than modern tech, it just does. Even the boxes of older graphics cards were always so incredible and made you dream/wise there was a game version of it. The cooler itself looked like something out of a video game, the card looks amazing. Everything together just makes it look so great. Modern stuff is just boring with some flashy, pretty lights. The boxes are boring and just says "graphics card. Wow." in plain English. Coolers are just chunks of metal with a fan(almost identical to the stock cooler from the video actually), etc. Love the imagination we had back in the day. Nothing but cold science now.
I have that exact mobo, with a 940 and 24 gigs of DDR3....since been put out of use, but still have the motherboard box and everything that came with it.
The Inverse Sleeper Build. Love it!
For Usb3 You need Buy adapter
I have that exact air cooler as decoration now, used it a lot on my 4790k the thing looks amazing.
I was 18 years old when this CPU was released, we might be close in age. While I was not interested in building PCs at all then, I've got X58 bloodrage mobo yesterday. I'm excited to build with it, too. It's exciting to combine modern parts with legendary old parts.
At the beginning of the lockdown i pulled out my old 58x rig. It was my first completely new rig i built. Mine had the i7 920 with asus rampage 2 and a hd 5870. I upgraded it with a W3690 @ 4.3ghz and a rx 580. I remember overclocking the 920 but i got a dud and couldn't get past 3ghz.
Was fun to pull the old guy outta retirement and play some old, and some newer games!
Well built Greg, Merry Christmas. I can't wait to see how u will fix it. Keep well and Godspeed.
Nice. I used to have a beautiful X58 build in a mostly glass case to show off the components. It was a Gigabyte GA-EX58-Extreme mobo - with a funky heatpipe/finstack for cooling the chipset - even had fittings for water cooling the chipset!
CPU was a Xeon X5687, six 4GB Corsair DIMMs in blue and black, to match the colors on the motherboard. Had my eyes on a blue Sapphire RX580 Nitro to complete the build, but ended up selling the lot for lack of space.
Laughs with my i5 4460, 16gb ddr3, rtx 3080 10gb PC mine has to take the cake for being hilarious
i have x58 asus with x5675 and rtx 3080 16 gb ddr3 also
I have an old X58 rig that I used all the way upto 2019. I have it in a Cooler Master HAF XM with a i7 980X, MSI X58 Big Bang xPower, 24GB of DDR3-2400, and dual GTX 780 in SLI. I loved that machine. I built it in 2016 after college. I got a really good bundle of parts for a cheap price back then. I ran the i7 980X at 4.6Ghz at 1.35V and I managed to get the ram to work at DDR3-2000. That was the hard limit on the IMC. I have heard that if you run 3x8GB dimms instead of 6x4GB dimms, you can get better speeds and tighter timings but I didn't want to spend the money for that. One of my GTX 780s failed so in 2017, I bought a R9 Fury X to replace the SLI pair but since I don't use the rig anymore, I put my two GTX 780s back in just for looks. I might try and get up and running just to revisit it. I do have a pair of HD 7990s now in my collection, which is much more period appropriate for the platform and would look pretty dang baller. :3c
I got excited when I saw the R9 290. I got one refurbished in 2014 and built a system around it in an ANTEC GX700.
I've done some old PC hardware in newer cases and I found out it's good to have several extensions or adapters handy. For example, there are USB 3 extensions that are flexible and look much cleaner than the big 'ol plug that always comes with the cases. Makes the build look cleaner in terms of cable management. In this situation, where the front panel header doesn't match the case plug, there are front panel extensions that have the plug at one end and separated pins at the other like in most cases. These adapters and extensions are cheap and normally found at amazon in packs of 2 or 3.
Merry Christmas Greg!
Awesome CPU Greg. 👍
This is as close we can get to time travel. Nostalgia. 😊
now that's what i call a tower love the size great stuff. the one you built on the 16 January to weeks after this one co comparison great stuff Greg😀
please do more videos like this
That stock cooler is so pretty. Will wait for this pc to run on another video
that is a gorgeous pc my lord i love it
The prices on those old used cases..... Love Antec btw, using one for my gaming PC.
Beautiful case and really interesting video! You were absolutely right this was gonna ba a unique one
i like these og build in old thermaltake and cm cases they are awesome
nice to see LGA1366 I love this platform, I always wanted an LGA1366 PC so I have a secondary "retro" gaming LGA1366 PC with a Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 (rev. 2.0) with a Xeon W3670 @4ghz and 3x8gb 1600mhz ram and I use a few different GPUs usually a GTX 950 but I also have a GTX 750 2gb and a HD4670, I have to try some modern games on it with my RTX 3060, it's running W7 ultimate, I use it for games that don't run on w10 anymore.
RTX 3060 should do pretty well. I ran a GTX 1080 in my X58 system with a X5670 @ 4.4GHz and it games at 1080p pretty well. I now have the 1080 in my new (to me) X299 system with an i9-10900X and in most games there's barely any difference. Though LGA1366 CPUs don't have AVX and AVX2 so some newer games wont launch
If you start with 1 ram stick, then restart and add the next one, repeat until you have added all ram sticks. And it will probably work. 48gb is fully doable on this platform. But x58 is very finicky with ram training.
I've still got a Sabertooth x58 build with an i7 920 and a Geforce 9800gt. It has a WD 1TB drive for boot, and 6 Samsung 2TB drives in a hardware raid 5 array for file storage. Coincidentally, it's in an Antec silent full tower case from the same era ~2010, don't recall the model number. It takes up 10x the space and uses 4x the power of a modern NAS while being considerably slower.
In an airflow case like that I put the Power supply fan facing up. It will get less hair and dirt in it that way.
The Sabertooth motherboard lineup has always had an awesome look to them imo. The x79 and x99 Sabertooth boards look just as good 👍
was the perfect inbetween high enough you could oc but none of that extra garbage to get in the way or die. Its a sad thing they killed off like line. Some of its siblings were the best boards in the era's for budget builds as well. Now we just get 15 different ROG SKU's and cost cut garbage.
I built a similar system last year. I came across an Asus P6T deluxe mobo on ebay that was basically new and I still had my i7 940 from back in the day and 24gb of corsair 1600mhz ddr3. Bought a new case, a cheap Zalman, off Amazon. I had an evga 650w modular 80+gold psu in my spare parts drawer I used and a spare 1tb ssd. Tossed in my old evga gtx 970. I had the most trouble finding a cooler to work with the lga 1336 socket. After it was done I took it to work to play skyrim and some other older games.
As an owner of at 290 reference, that thing is loud as hell!!!
That Cooler Master V8 was the cream of the crop back in the late 2000s & early 2010s!
Love the case!!!!
i love ur videos man thank u for teaching me alot
My MSI R9 390 Gaming 8G used to game at a steady 94c, and of course as we all know, there was no hotspot sensor back then, so i can only imagine what that would have read. My friends been using it for the last 4 years since i grabbed the 5700XT at launch, he plays gmod, and gta 5, and halo MCC on it perfectly fine. They run hot, but they sure were built for it.
I have this same build with the 950 and same motherboard. It’s in a Corsair case with 24G ram. I was going to bring it to you for fix or flop but figured it wouldn’t be worth your time or mine. Still it would be nice to have it working again!
Very cool, especially that Cooler Master V8 GTS tower cooler! I remember shopping for a Cooler Master Sphere cooler, that thing looked really awesome at the time...!
Yoo Greg, what a build and blast from the past. I remember reading about this cpu it was outta my range. So glad you have one well preserved (s.o to Hank).
so cool
Interesting build. Looking forward to finding out what the problem was. Would also like to see workarounds that enable older gear to work in newer boxes, like add-on cards to enable USB-C and front panel 3.0, etc.
and you could actually add that stuff since you had a reasonable amount of PCI-E lanes
20:51 place some felt on feet display on your desk
I was expecting that cooler to suddenly say “Autobots, roll out!” Geez what a beast
I remember how badly I wanted that Cooler Master heatsink back then. Just looked so cool.
That case is gorgeous.
I loved the video. We get so many videos talking about new hardware and upgrade paths but no one EVER upgrades. Most people who bought this platform either maxed out from the beginning or stuck with an i7-920 and sold the platform a few years later. I would love a video showing how to upgrade a platform like this to meet basic modern needs like, an alternative to the power switch, adding USB 3.0 PCIe support, WIFI, and other small quality-of-life upgrades that can be made. Adding a GTX 980 or 980Ti if the R9 290 is the problem. I would love a video showing how a maxed-out 10 - 12-year-old build like this holds up in modern titles at reasonable settings. Awesome video!
Sadly drivers for hardware that age are going to be your biggest issue. For Win10 your running on base built in drivers and thats it. Architectures this old are missing things modern OS's and software assume you have. Also this is SATA II gen still the onboard 3rd party SATAIII was garbage even in its day. Then they carried that same chip over to the X79 version of the board annoyingly.
I saw in the box that there were quick connects for that board. Just connect the front panel wires to the quick connect as labeled and it goes on the front panel header of this board, weird as it is.
There's no such thing as failure, Greg, just challenges to overcome. Can't wait till you feature this build in an upcoming fix or flop.
I’ve always used jumper cables (like the ones you get in classes to wire up a breadboard) to rewire front panel headers. Also need to start looking into Antec’s cases. Most of my recent cases are Deepcool but that case does look very nice for a non-tempered glass build
Asus sabre tuff military color scheme. Corsair had a military themed case called the vengeance c70 to match. I always add usb 3.0 pci express cards to older systems.
The X58 plateform is by far my favorite! Still have my original one and it's on this that i learned to overclock and tinker with pc's! Mine has a Xeon x5675 overclocked to 4.5ghz paired with an rx580 8gig and beleive it or not, but it still runs almost every title! I use it for Retro console games connected to my tv!
Holler at the 6 core 990x I was drooling over for a solid 5 years.
My first gaming PC was an i7 870, on an Intel skull trail board, with a GTX 285. Brings back memories.
I still need to find a CM V8. I got a CM V6 is still in an old AM2+ rig I have. LED still works, but he is on his 3rd set of fans atm.
Oooh 2min?! Love your vids man keep doing what you’re doing
You'd get a giggle from my full-tower 2nd gen i7 system. It has an old, old Cooler Master case with a built-in-the-top-of-the-case SATA drive bay, many hard drive slots and both 5 1/4 and 3.5" drive bays. And a Fatal1ty motherboard with a dedicated serial-mouse port. That old throwback still runs Unreal Tournament and StarCraft very well indeed.
You might want to try and see it will post with different ram.
That setup isn't much different then what I was using all the way up till 2022. I had a Antec 300 case (still use it in my current rig) with a intel i7 965 Extreme edition clocked around 3.2ghz. The mobo was a Asus P6T (original not deluxe or SE editions) with 24 GB of DDR3 ram. (had all 6 ram slots populated at one point). Knowing that are you sure that board can do 48GB? Try smaller modules for a 24GB setup and see if it posts with that.
I'd still be using it to this day but the slow boot times even with SSD meant that it was finally time to upgrade. I went from that to a 4th gen i7 rig.
My current rig is Antec 300 case but now with a Dell 9020MT mobo put in with the nessecery adapters to make it work on my PSU and front panel connections. It has a 4th gen i7 clocked around 3.4 or so. Currently got 16GB of DDR3 ram in it. It can max to 32GB but I haven't found the money to do that yet. The boot drive is a NVME dropped into a PCIE slot with an adapter. The mobo doesn't normally support booting from NVME, but I flashed a modified UEFI to the board to support it. :D
I upgraded this mostly for budget reasons as it also saved me from having to get new ram. If i upgrade again gen 10 is probably the highest I'll go for now. Nothing about the newer gens really makes any sense for my use case.
The video card I was using in the old rig was a GTX 650 but in 2021 I upgraded it to a GTX 780Ti. Still using the 780ti in my current rig.
As for my case I still use it because it's got 3 optical drive bays. I'd love to upgrade to something that would let me vertically mount my GPU so I can reclaim the PCIE slot below it but as far as I can tell vertical mount cases with at least 2 optical drive bays don't seem to exist.... :(
Had the same cpu in my work build in 2012. Lol. Great build. Nice throwback.
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