@@engineeredtruths8935 they're just saying that we evolved to speak and thus lost the region is our brains (such is the theory as I understand it) which results in such good short term memory of monkeys Also there are multiple evolutionary steps between monekys and modern humans so that's just plain incorrect
@@ugsl5236 Who knows maybe person commenting that needed an explanation and a company as big as BBC wouldn't let a mere coincidence dictate their projects
Humans have previously used chew sticks for cleaning their teeth. Probably the same thing going on here, you know, since they don't use toothbrushes themselves.
you could replace those numbers with random shapes, if they are trained to identify a custom order they absolutely can. they do not understand numbers as numbers tho.
@@BenjusJamentus A bit late for this but yeah, anything you're capable of sensing has been defined by someone and latter taught to someone else. So numbers are just symbols that've been given avalue and a scale, as the alphabat; Arabic dialects can be seen using our same alphabet mixed with numbers, which could be weird for us, but for Arabic speakers it makes sense since the numbers have other values (or maybe the same as from their language, can't remember). So pretty much we don't recognise numbers nor anything else because that's what they are, but because that's how they've been defined. And for the exercise, like mentioned before, the numbers could be replaced and mixed with other shapes and forms but that would make it harder for us hehe.
Whilst both the people replying are obviously true, you could easily replace the number with shapes and teach the order, I don't think itd be very difficult to teach a chimp which number represented which amount. In fact, I'd bet my left thumb that it's already been done.
Not only do they seem to know how to recognize numbers in the correct order but being able to memorize them being blank out in literally 0.5 seconds and still get it right is incredible.
The test doesnt start until you press "1" so the chimp didn't get a millisecond to look at it he could have sat all day and looked at it if he wished to, the chimp was just that good at it that it had pressed 1 immediately
Animals are smarter than we think as well as having better than expected memories. Maybe the benchmark for AI shouldn't be vs Humans but actually AI vs animals
Quick question: Am I the only one that doesn't memorize the number's location themselves, and instead memorizes a path that connects them all? For me, it's easier to draw a path in my mind (kind of like connect the dots), then all you have to do is remember the shape of the path, and the end at which it starts. All you have to do at that point is follow the line, it's actually pretty simple.
Cool. I had a relative who had a photographic memory. He could memorize reams of diagrams and top secret blueprints. Perhaps the chimps have that type of memory. I still don't understand how the chimp knows the order of numbers, so perhaps it was doing what you mentioned?
+Claire Bennett We have better long term memory and many other cognitive tasks, but it seems they have better working memory, perhaps serving a great advantage for them in the wild. They remember the numbers in order almost instantly, like an imprint on their mind, so yes... like photographic memory in some sense. They do have to be "trained" the rules of the game though... as in, playing the numbers in order, by giving them a reward for it... operant conditioning basically... but they already have the memory skills there, when they're in the wild...
+DecreeB I was just about to comment saying the same thing. It's the way that we think to do it first (which is count 1-9 then try remember where each is) rather than remembering the path. Remembering the path is so, so much simpler. I remember being able to remember the numbers from 1-25 on those brain teaser games, but it was because I was using the path method.
The loss of advances short term memory cognitive abilities in favor of long term memory pattern recognition is an evolutionary leap towards higher intelligence. Short term memory is excellent for split decision survival skills, but in the long run it is humans long term memory cognitive reasoning that increases beyond the survival of here and now. To equate this evolutionary leap to chess it is the difference between being able to plan multiple moves into the future and memorizing the current position of all pieces on the chessboard. In evolutionary survival terms being able to plan moves into the future is far superior.
Because you can't nor should try to attribute human characteristics to animals. Any observations of "human-like intelligence" is anecdotal and not empirical.
@@miketemify that is completly wrong - humans and other speccies like chimpazees have ccommon ancestors so evolutionairy research does exactly what you are saying is not appropriate - that is what all scientists mentioned in this video are researching - i think your view on science is a little outdated - anthropodenial is what you are proposing, i suggest you update your information (maybe you already have)
they had to first teach the monkey numbers as an order of increase and decrease then afterwards they taught the monkey how to use the screen by first putting up maybe 3 numbers and asking him to click the numbers in order and gradually built it into this setup. so the monkey did have prior training but it was necessary for it to even compete. the test emphasizes memory though and the monkey was only taught numbers.
It's amazing how defensive humans get about our species... If you look at the comments, it seems as if lots of people find the concept of non-human intelligence fundamentally repugnant, even if they don't actually know anything about Chimpanzee or Human intelligence to base their opposition on.
Jim Mason wrote a pretty amazing book on this phenomenon, entitled "An Unnatural Order". He explains the many theological and philosophical movements throughout human history that attempted to explain humans' place in relation to other animals, which now presently uphold this idea that humans' self-worth is dependent upon being better than all other animals of this planet. These philosophical ideas, despite their weaknesses, have endured hundreds and thousands of years by many people with ulterior motives and when those ideas are challenged today, many modern humans simply can't bear the idea of admitting that their most recent ancestors were duped by either humans with malicious intents or humans with a lack of knowledge. Instead of just admitting that human superiority is a myth and moving on with reality, they play the role of victim and lash out at nonhuman animals even more.
Merry Machiavelli I guess it's a sense that's humanity has nothing but the mind of being in greatness and being superior and it being brought down is humbling for a species who are believed to be intellectually superior to all other living beings (on earth) and having something less to claim. humans think like this because we aren't that strong were not that fast and now saying we're not the best at something of intelligence. even though it doesn't mean chimps are intellectually Superior to humans but something within the genre I guess hurts
Mostly religious retards who like to think that humans are some sort of special species because a diety made us, and not that we desend from a common ansestor.
Sad though. Us, having the ability to do many things are for one, taking nearly our own kind (Chimps) and putting them through tests. They'd probably do the same to us though.
TNovix that's the thing. they would do the same to us. as cruel as it seems. We've gained so much information and intelligence by these kinds of tests. It's one of the reasons we are the dominant species.
I would love to see the next stage of this where the chimp knows it has beaten the human by reading a scoreboard and then observing their reaction and behavior after
1:40 the monkey pressed 1 then 3 and it didn't say it was wrong, it just skipped 2. You can see the mouse cursor moves to where the monkey presses next and it stays on 1 then moves directly to 3 so the monkeys head isn't blocking the view they just skipped it.
To: @uberchurch8335 - Indeed! To make it more difficult the examiners began to vary how many actual digits Ayumu had to complete. He still had to push the buttons in the correct order although he was given no clue as to how many or which numbers between one and nine were going to be shown or left out each time. Much more difficult and more time consuming. He was assessing those numbers and was timed at one-two hundredth of a second for him to achieve that. The only realistic way possible is if he possesses photographic or eidetic memory.
No, learning the numbers and their order is trivial. Humans can do that far better than Chimps. What's truly impressive is that Chimps are clearly superior to human beings in a vector of pure intellect.
"Ayumu gets it right almost everytime, and I only got it right once." I hear the same thing from my friends, minus the name of course. Don't worry Chris, your case isn't as worse.
People, stop getting so defensive. We're just humans, we're not some gods/goddesses that are superior to literally everything. We're animals, and other animals are our equals.
Why get all defensive about how smart humans are? I think it's amazing how intelligent some animals are. Sure a monkey may be better at remembering, but I'd like to see a monkey play a song from Veil of Maya on the guitar, or cure cancer. Then I would probably put my own intelligence below a monkeys.
***** That really wasn't the point, he was stating examples to show how Humans are far more advanced than any primate, and that we shouldn't be so defensive about chimps having a 'brain advantage' over us for once.
my theory- animals likes chimps have more visual burn in. they can see the numbers for longer after the disappeared compared to humans. that's part of why they go so fast. they still lose the sight pretty quickly which is part of why they go so fast and can't really go above 10 usually.
I actually have seen this entire documentary. They believe that it's part of the chimps regular routine for identifying food, family and threats on a regular basis, so they have that specific Neuro pathway highly developed.
It should be noted that for us the digits have meaning as integers and can be ranged while for the chimp they are equivalent to Japanese Kanji for a person who does not read Japanese at all; in other words, they are just abstract pictures, and that puts the chimp to a significant disadvantage.
I remember seeing this on telly a couple of years ago and thought it was nice to see non-humans getting some credit for something - especially where it strayed into the area of brain-power where humans like to think they have no rivals.
It definitely makes sense. They have to have awareness of where their food sources are at and when they're ready to be eaten and they have to memorize their social order and know which one they owe favors to and so on. I would say parrots probably have the same type of memorization skills.
Humans must have been pretty good at memorizing things when our lives depended on it. Even in the '70s and '80s every kid could remember several important phone numbers and the names of most of the streets in their towns. And then GPS, Google maps, password managers etc etc came along and we hardly have to remember anything. We just look it up on the internet.
Chimps better memory ---> more intelligence ---> getting smarter than humans ---> humans devolving ---> chimps ruling the world ---> Planet of the apes (Totally not from a movie)
I study perception and memory. They should verify that a chimp's sensory memory is not longer than humans. Sensory memory differs from working memory. Sensory memory is a buffer that is stores a visual seen in parallel for a very short period of time. Effectively, a person sees an image for a specific length of time after it disappears. This image persistence is sensory memory. Human visual sensory memory is between 0.5 and 3 seconds, depending on the stimulus, and it is closer to 0.5 for language characters (the buffer needs to be rapidly cleared for tasks like reading). If the chimps sensory memory is longer, then the task is as easy as if the image never disappeared. This also explains why the chimp does ot so rapidly, so as to avoid losing the sensory memory image.
To: @LarrySmith-li4ou The time was varied and gradually reduced for Ayumu to 'visualise' the numbers and order. He was able to achieve this in one-two-hundredth of a second.The experiments appear to demonstrate that he, and other chimpanzees, possess photographic, or eidetic memory. I believe he is now well into the teens in terms of the numerals to recall. It would also appear that this ability is 'across the board' with all the 'undomesticated' great apes. An invaluable evolutionary tool considering their lifestyle and habitat.
If you just read the papers… In more than one occasion, Ayumu memorized the layout, and he didn’t finish it immediately (because he gets distracted or whatever), but then he finishes the task correctly. This moments occasionally happen for a few seconds (way more than just 3 seconds). Surprising that a researcher doesn’t bother to take a look into the actual publications that exist…
To: '-The UnknownUser - Indeed! I believe it has been stated that the researchers would occasionally distract Ayumu intentionally to observe if this had any influence on his ability. Ha, ha! Apparently the distractions proved unsuccessful.
this is one of the explanations commonly posited for this result: the language centre of the brain impedes upon the working memory centre much more likely is that raising a chimp to do a very specific task like this means that unsurprisingly it’s very good at that task, and if you raised a human to do a similar specific task, they’d be as good or better
@@imamoronand9199 Perhaps, but the fact that their best human couldn't win is telling. Maybe with enough practice they could, but also maybe the couldn't. Either way, this is an incredible fact about chimps.
This is not an ordinary chimp. His mother Ai and he have lived their lives in an institute in Japan. Since he was born he has been solving puzzles and doing tests connected with comparisons between chimps and humans. How many thousand times has he done this test before the above program was made? How was he trained to recognise the symbols and perform the test? Some humans have what is called an eidetic memory, whereby they can photographically remember what they see. Such a person will get this 100% correct every time with no training. This ability has been mimicked using deep hypnotic suggestion wherein a woman memorised over 900 pages of accountancy textbooks then went on to achieve 100% in a university level exam. This chimpanzee cannot be used as a means to learn about general chimpanzee abilities. He is a special case. In the same way that Koko did not prove to us that all gorillas can speak sign language.
Humans can also write stuff down and look things up on Google. You don't need to remember anything any more, whether it's phone numbers, travel directions (maps), passwords, names of film/pop stars, appointment times etc. It's all stored in the cloud.
I love how after the first time the chimp did it he had his hand to his side like "Really, this is what we're doing, is this supposed to be a challenge"
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Yeah it makes so much sense. Imagine just connecting the numbers least to greatest or greatest to least, while they are shown, the fact that the chimp did it so fast-it was almost like he did it faster than if he could see them- says that it simply has photographic memory, and if not that, either that or it did some absolutely crazy mathematical computation to recall them. I'd say the number need to be higher, level 11.
That's mindblowing!! Not just the test, but also that the chimp can memorize the symbols of those numbers and the order they should follow - that itself takes humans a LOT of time to do. And notice that the chimp looks at the numbers and INSTANTLY moves to the test, and passes it. 99% of humans could never do that and the 1% are gifted or have very high IQs.
Weird, if you remember the pattern, it's actually pretty easy. I can do 17 in human benchmark because you can essentially partner up numbers or remember positions/patterns instead.
How does the chimp see the entire screen of numbers and process their order at once? Definitely the human is looking at them one at a time, yet the chimp must be looking at them all at once, like an entire field of view, in order for him to take literally one second to remember their order. They didn’t mention that?!
Both the director and the chimpanzee see the same screen and receive the same information as the 9 symbols are being shown, what makes the difference is the ability of the chimp to react so fast to that data.
Doing this test myself, I find it easiest not to memorize numbers separately, but the shapes of the numbers. That way it's much quicker to picture everything at once in your head and you can process the next number/shape as you go. Margin of error is low because each number/shape has very little in common with the others, except for 2 & 5 (for me). Furthermore I try to picture & internalize the right order with a straight line leading to each shape. That pattern in my head makes it also easier to identify the right path should I lose track. It's a very practical, but simple way of memorizing an order and I imagine chimps work similarly. Basically they don't think too much about it?
Your first strategy is using sensory memory, rather than working memory, which is likely what the chimp is doing. I just added a comment that that is a flaw in the study. The chimp is not likely using working memory for the task, but sensory memory.
no we are still superior is just now we know how some animals in certain situation will beat us and what even cooler is this makes sense when we diverged to become smarter and has longer lasting memory the ability to make split second decisions became somewhat obsolete, but primates need to be able to look at a forest and see if their predators and what danger lie so it paramount to their survival and they evolved to be the best
It's amazing that 1.) The chimp was able to learn the numbers 1-9 and their order in the first place and 2.) That the chimp can do this test almost instantaneously. I think a fair number of people with a reasonable memory can get it right 90% of the time as the chimp does but for me at least, it would take at least 10 seconds to feel confident enough to pass it at that rate. The chimp literally sees the numbers and starts pressing them immediately. I almost want to consider the possibility that the numbers are still visible to the chimp after he presses 1. Something similar like if you stare at an image for a long time then close your eyes, you still see the negative image. Meaning the chimp's eyes actually work a little differently and they still see the numbers after they flash off. Just complete speculation on my part and it's probably wrong but it's really astounding how quickly the chimp presses those numbers
I think this has a lot to do with conceptual vs Visual memory. Chimps brain is programmed to remember what happened VISUALLY. Whereas OUR brain is programmed to remember what happened CONCEPTUALLY. I am an IT engineer, and I do not recall what the inside of an induction engine that I learned in first year of college, but I can explain briefly the CONCEPT.
godismyshadow it is folly to think yourself as the master of all life because religion allows you that liberty. In the wild,(without technology) we will find ourselves outsmarted by the chimps. The point here is.. We took a different turn on the evolution road and it has brought us here. Well equipped to live the EXACT lives that we do. We're wonderfully well equipped to deal with our lives and they're well equipped for theirs. We are here as their cousins. We're not their masters. They have a right to this planet as much as we do. Not more, not less. Let us not look down on them.
I can remember what happened visually. I don´t know if it makes me autistic but I scored quite high in various tests for Asperger but not high enough to be counted as Asperger. Your conceptual memory (or the whole kind of thinking common for IT engineers, mathematics experts etc) is something I can´t understand at all. I have the weird ability to visualize everything I think about or everthing I read constantly. When I can´t make a visual picture of something I´m lost. That´s why I´m lost in everything about mathematic because these are not things one can visualize like a story in the book. I thought everybody is visualizing constantly because I do it, I don´t even want to do it, it just happens. But then some people told me it´s weird because they don´t do it and can´t do it. Animals are easier for me to understand than humans. They probably have more visual memory and thinking than humans. Which explains how they can think without speech (of that kind we know in humans). I can do it too.
I think the issue isn't with memory, but with pattern recognition. If there was more info available other than numbers, for example using color gradients or combinations of colors with specific numbers, so that humans can visually distinguish them, instead of trying to memorize the number values themselves, it might ne more fair. I'm fairly certain the patterns themselves are easier to remember and create muscle-memory groups, similar to how playing an instrument works with multiple notes at the same time. grouping numbers might be the answer to how humans can do it as well (think chords).
you can see that “im better than you” smile
Apes have the right to vote
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@Paulo Eusebio where are the animals that are evolving between monkey and human? Lol
@@engineeredtruths8935 they're just saying that we evolved to speak and thus lost the region is our brains (such is the theory as I understand it) which results in such good short term memory of monkeys
Also there are multiple evolutionary steps between monekys and modern humans so that's just plain incorrect
its not fair humans didnt get candy
The results would be even worse lol
human adult don't respond to candy, they respond to money lol
You get candy when you get it right lol
@@yelfryrodriguez1280 he did once
No that peanuts chimpamzee's like peanuts
2:49 it's really convenient they found that dude just as they wanted to talk about him, who knows how many trees they might have had to search
This comment deserves way more likes lol
Hahaha
I think he was there expecting them to come, probably a setup
@@AntiRacistWarrior it was a joke
@@ugsl5236 Who knows maybe person commenting that needed an explanation and a company as big as BBC wouldn't let a mere coincidence dictate their projects
When they first showed him solving the puzzle in like 3 seconds my jaw dropped...
i know right its so fucking mindblowings
thats not literally bruh
@@risesleg6461 a jaw dropping can be literal. My jaw literally drops all the time. It’s not like that saying is a hyperbole or metaphor
me too...what I feel wrong is how fast he was tapping...without thinking...insane confidence of not losing...
@Bobb Grimley It was needed as jaw drop is usually figurative speech and my jaw did literally drop, which had never happened to me before in my life.
2:45 I love the implication that they went into the wild to literally track down a scientist in his natural habitat.
hahaha yes!
why is this funny
you can found the scientist stick around near it's favorite tree; the Oak
🤣🤣🤣
Well he does look at home in that tree.
"They have evolved"
*starts eating wood*
😭
Lol
We do the same like nail biting or pencil biting. Its a habit
Humans have previously used chew sticks for cleaning their teeth. Probably the same thing going on here, you know, since they don't use toothbrushes themselves.
that is what i call critical thinking
Well, maybe Chris is a pothead.
ya damn right
Fake Freud Maybe stop smoking weed then...
Fake Freud You won’t be able to in a while then lol
He's probably on something!
It's funny how people think just because "potheads" forget stuff that it corrilates twards intelligence
I bet chimps would be awesome at video games...
Um, this was a video game.
No chimp will ever beat me at Rocket League
Melinda Green no, no it is not. this a memory test.
Supercoolnata
What do you call Tetris, a packing test?
Call yourself whatever you like. Wikipedia calls Tetris "a tile-matching puzzle video game".
I'm more impressed by the fact that they are able to recognize the numbers 1-9 and see them in the same order as we do
you could replace those numbers with random shapes, if they are trained to identify a custom order they absolutely can. they do not understand numbers as numbers tho.
@@brunoqueiroz2759 ahh, that makes sense. thank you!
@@BenjusJamentus A bit late for this but yeah, anything you're capable of sensing has been defined by someone and latter taught to someone else. So numbers are just symbols that've been given avalue and a scale, as the alphabat; Arabic dialects can be seen using our same alphabet mixed with numbers, which could be weird for us, but for Arabic speakers it makes sense since the numbers have other values (or maybe the same as from their language, can't remember).
So pretty much we don't recognise numbers nor anything else because that's what they are, but because that's how they've been defined.
And for the exercise, like mentioned before, the numbers could be replaced and mixed with other shapes and forms but that would make it harder for us hehe.
@@locochoify very interesting, thanks for replying!
Whilst both the people replying are obviously true, you could easily replace the number with shapes and teach the order, I don't think itd be very difficult to teach a chimp which number represented which amount. In fact, I'd bet my left thumb that it's already been done.
Not only do they seem to know how to recognize numbers in the correct order but being able to memorize them being blank out in literally 0.5 seconds and still get it right is incredible.
The trick is to plan out the motion of your finger, not try to remember where each number is.
@@ummonk that might be the case holy sht
@@ummonk That's still far above the capabilities of your average person.
if you trained a human to do this from birth how good do you think they’d be? this experiment is extremely stupid
@@imamoronand9199its not lol
3:07
"They have evolved"
*shows chimpanzee biting corner of wood*
This made my day hahaha
Oh my god i die
lol good comment
I read it right as he said it.
I'm dead lmao
We bite on pencils and random shit all the time so like
Notice how the guy has so long to look at the numbers and the chimp gets a millisecond. That's amazing
did you even watch the video you@MAD TRICKSTER
Sanpopnoo Bear ikr that’s amazing, they are really smart
The test doesnt start until you press "1" so the chimp didn't get a millisecond to look at it he could have sat all day and looked at it if he wished to, the chimp was just that good at it that it had pressed 1 immediately
My question is if the monkey was better at the numbers or if it simply has photographic memory!
Animals are smarter than we think as well as having better than expected memories. Maybe the benchmark for AI shouldn't be vs Humans but actually AI vs animals
Quick question: Am I the only one that doesn't memorize the number's location themselves, and instead memorizes a path that connects them all? For me, it's easier to draw a path in my mind (kind of like connect the dots), then all you have to do is remember the shape of the path, and the end at which it starts. All you have to do at that point is follow the line, it's actually pretty simple.
Cool. I had a relative who had a photographic memory. He could memorize reams of diagrams and top secret blueprints. Perhaps the chimps have that type of memory. I still don't understand how the chimp knows the order of numbers, so perhaps it was doing what you mentioned?
+Claire Bennett
We have better long term memory and many other cognitive tasks, but it seems they have better working memory, perhaps serving a great advantage for them in the wild. They remember the numbers in order almost instantly, like an imprint on their mind, so yes... like photographic memory in some sense. They do have to be "trained" the rules of the game though... as in, playing the numbers in order, by giving them a reward for it... operant conditioning basically... but they already have the memory skills there, when they're in the wild...
i find it difficult to memorize path too..
+Nathaniel Herz-Edinger Thats the strategy they use
+DecreeB
I was just about to comment saying the same thing. It's the way that we think to do it first (which is count 1-9 then try remember where each is) rather than remembering the path. Remembering the path is so, so much simpler. I remember being able to remember the numbers from 1-25 on those brain teaser games, but it was because I was using the path method.
From the comments here, I learned that humans have the biggest ego in all of the species.
How? All the comments are saying “give Chris a peanut and he’ll get it first time”
@@arnarmagnusson8201 because the are making excuses because a chimp is smarter the A Humen
@@geographymax1835 well give him a nut and he’ll do it every time
@@arnarmagnusson8201 how will that make him do it
A humen
2:11 that smirk
He’s like “yeah im smarter then y’all”
Jesus that smirk was so human. I mean, the expression itself, and you can see in this animal's eyes that he is smart
After every round, there should be something on the screen that says "You lost to a Chimpanzee!"
what if being humiliated turns him on tho
@@yuckyskunk2021 doesn't change the fact that chimp is superior
that would be racist...
first rule dont let blank person know he is stupid then he start call us yellow skin
And for the chimp "You lost from a human", the biggest insult for a chimp imaginable...
@@yuckyskunk2021that took a freaky turn
The loss of advances short term memory cognitive abilities in favor of long term memory pattern recognition is an evolutionary leap towards higher intelligence. Short term memory is excellent for split decision survival skills, but in the long run it is humans long term memory cognitive reasoning that increases beyond the survival of here and now. To equate this evolutionary leap to chess it is the difference between being able to plan multiple moves into the future and memorizing the current position of all pieces on the chessboard. In evolutionary survival terms being able to plan moves into the future is far superior.
Sure, but working memory is highly correlated with IQ and general intellectual ability.
How is intelligence, the ability to apply knowledge and skills, anthropomorphism? Greater apes have been observed in the wild to utilize tools.
Because you can't nor should try to attribute human characteristics to animals. Any observations of "human-like intelligence" is anecdotal and not empirical.
Ah yes because our closest living realative is clearly incapable of intelligence as that would be "anthropomorphism".
@@miketemify that is completly wrong - humans and other speccies like chimpazees have ccommon ancestors so evolutionairy research does exactly what you are saying is not appropriate - that is what all scientists mentioned in this video are researching - i think your view on science is a little outdated - anthropodenial is what you are proposing, i suggest you update your information (maybe you already have)
How did they teach them the correct order for the numbers initially?
they had to first teach the monkey numbers as an order of increase and decrease then afterwards they taught the monkey how to use the screen by first putting up maybe 3 numbers and asking him to click the numbers in order and gradually built it into this setup. so the monkey did have prior training but it was necessary for it to even compete. the test emphasizes memory though and the monkey was only taught numbers.
asdfjkl asdfjkl this was 4 years old
@@eeeesyywuwiz2836 no that is the chimp.
It may have been the shape recognition not the understanding of the numbers themselves. But I don't know for sure
@@melissag834 even if it is just them identifying and thinking in symbols we think in symbols as well
Reject humanity return to monke
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@@СнежныйДжони more like you mad human boi?
@@СнежныйДжони commie
It's amazing how defensive humans get about our species...
If you look at the comments, it seems as if lots of people find the concept of non-human intelligence fundamentally repugnant, even if they don't actually know anything about Chimpanzee or Human intelligence to base their opposition on.
Jim Mason wrote a pretty amazing book on this phenomenon, entitled "An Unnatural Order". He explains the many theological and philosophical movements throughout human history that attempted to explain humans' place in relation to other animals, which now presently uphold this idea that humans' self-worth is dependent upon being better than all other animals of this planet. These philosophical ideas, despite their weaknesses, have endured hundreds and thousands of years by many people with ulterior motives and when those ideas are challenged today, many modern humans simply can't bear the idea of admitting that their most recent ancestors were duped by either humans with malicious intents or humans with a lack of knowledge. Instead of just admitting that human superiority is a myth and moving on with reality, they play the role of victim and lash out at nonhuman animals even more.
Merry Machiavelli I guess it's a sense that's humanity has nothing but the mind of being in greatness and being superior and it being brought down is humbling for a species who are believed to be intellectually superior to all other living beings (on earth) and having something less to claim. humans think like this because we aren't that strong were not that fast and now saying we're not the best at something of intelligence. even though it doesn't mean chimps are intellectually Superior to humans but something within the genre I guess hurts
Alksandra Pawluczuk sexist... you mean sexist..
Mostly religious retards who like to think that humans are some sort of special species because a diety made us, and not that we desend from a common ansestor.
Merry Machiavelli I think zoos are fine, but intelligent primates like these in zoos jusy feel wrong.
Seems like the wrong species is being held in captivity
Sad though. Us, having the ability to do many things are for one, taking nearly our own kind (Chimps) and putting them through tests. They'd probably do the same to us though.
TNovix they get lots of peanuts for their efforts at least!
TNovix that's the thing. they would do the same to us. as cruel as it seems. We've gained so much information and intelligence by these kinds of tests. It's one of the reasons we are the dominant species.
Your Mexican so you would know
Thats pretty harsh. The United states has the largest Prison Population of any country.
wait so does this mean chimps know numbers?
"We volunteered Chris, the director of the program, to demonstrate this test."
You forced Chris into a box with promises of candy and peanuts.
1:47 he doesn't even need to look at the screen to press the numbers in order
This guy must be so embarrassed
+Joash Shade ikr lol
You could do the test yourself and share in his embarrassment.
Xander Powell i could remember that lol
TRUTH SEAKER same
TRUTH SEAKER Let's see it.
www.novelgames.com/en/ayumu/
Human: Are Chimps more clever than humans?
Also Human: *proceeds to create high technology to test a chimp's IQ level*
Polar Bear well... humans are more based on intelligence than memory, while chimps based on more memory than humans with little intelligence.
Mr Infinify A humans hav better memory because of language
I would love to see the next stage of this where the chimp knows it has beaten the human by reading a scoreboard and then observing their reaction and behavior after
haha
I was not expecting that chimp to solve it so quickly. Amazing.
2:48 Is nobody going to talk about the transition with the man in the tree?
Nahhh He just vibin 😎
Fr like wtf
😂 😂
2:11 Look at that smug smile and that condensation in its eyes.
"You just can't beat me bro" 2:10
3:06 3:10
Mmm wood so delicious
@@F.B.I Do you really think he's eating it, you're so dumb lol, there's people that like to bite their pencils and stuff
Thumbnail looks like chimps thinking “imma end this mans whole career” haha
oh my god ur so funny
@@yuckyskunk2021 ok
1:40 the monkey pressed 1 then 3 and it didn't say it was wrong, it just skipped 2. You can see the mouse cursor moves to where the monkey presses next and it stays on 1 then moves directly to 3 so the monkeys head isn't blocking the view they just skipped it.
To: @uberchurch8335 - Indeed! To make it more difficult the examiners began to vary how many actual digits Ayumu had to complete. He still had to push the buttons in the correct order although he was given no clue as to how many or which numbers between one and nine were going to be shown or left out each time. Much more difficult and more time consuming. He was assessing those numbers and was timed at one-two hundredth of a second for him to achieve that. The only realistic way possible is if he possesses photographic or eidetic memory.
monkey head could have blocked the view. the cursor follows the monkey's touch. He could have touched 2 before 3 with his left hand. Are we sure?
@@petermoody6147
Nice explanation.
what's just as impressive as the speed/memory, is that they can learn the numbers and their orders at all. mind blown. what a badass that chimp is
No, learning the numbers and their order is trivial. Humans can do that far better than Chimps. What's truly impressive is that Chimps are clearly superior to human beings in a vector of pure intellect.
When I saw the chimp do the test perfectly, I literally laughed so hard my parents looked at me weird.
at first i thought u said
"i laughed so hard my pants looked at me weird"
Give the human a £50 note instead of a peanut and I bet their memory would suddenly improve with each attempt
Lmao
Inflation update: I'll take the peanut instead!!
My father way way back when I was a kid having trouble with math, said" think of those numbers like money, and see how many mistakes you make. ""
Bro's mad s chimp has better short-term memory than humans
The fact they knew numbers and there order is already impressive.
nah bro the chimp has a better gaming chair
"Ayumu gets it right almost everytime, and I only got it right once." I hear the same thing from my friends, minus the name of course. Don't worry Chris, your case isn't as worse.
You know it's wrong when they say "we tracked down a scientist"
"They have evolved"
2000 years later
- Aren't these humans in cage are wonderful, darling?
This is the most amazingly designed animal behaviour experiment ever. After several years I am still amazed !!
1:58 Chris fears he's let his species down lmao
People, stop getting so defensive. We're just humans, we're not some gods/goddesses that are superior to literally everything. We're animals, and other animals are our equals.
Hannah Taylor no you are an animal , for me humans is very different from animals .
dark phanthom you're an idiot
Hannah Taylor, no. We are top of the food chain. We are pretty much Gods and Godesses on this earth, we can end all life this very moment.
Alize, no, they CAN'T. We are on top of the food chain, it is impossible in every way for another animal to surpass us.
dark phanthom i guess you don't know what a human is.
Why get all defensive about how smart humans are? I think it's amazing how intelligent some animals are. Sure a monkey may be better at remembering, but I'd like to see a monkey play a song from Veil of Maya on the guitar, or cure cancer. Then I would probably put my own intelligence below a monkeys.
Daxis|Back Finally someone who understands
***** That really wasn't the point, he was stating examples to show how Humans are far more advanced than any primate, and that we shouldn't be so defensive about chimps having a 'brain advantage' over us for once.
***** Oh well then nvm :P
+Prismo Wishmaster You mean "any OTHER primate".
+Daxis|Back The average human can't play "Veil of Maya" on the guitar or cure cancer.
Damn, Japans got even the smartest Monkees
my theory- animals likes chimps have more visual burn in. they can see the numbers for longer after the disappeared compared to humans. that's part of why they go so fast. they still lose the sight pretty quickly which is part of why they go so fast and can't really go above 10 usually.
I actually have seen this entire documentary. They believe that it's part of the chimps regular routine for identifying food, family and threats on a regular basis, so they have that specific Neuro pathway highly developed.
It should be noted that for us the digits have meaning as integers and can be ranged while for the chimp they are equivalent to Japanese Kanji for a person who does not read Japanese at all; in other words, they are just abstract pictures, and that puts the chimp to a significant disadvantage.
I remember seeing this on telly a couple of years ago and thought it was nice to see non-humans getting some credit for something - especially where it strayed into the area of brain-power where humans like to think they have no rivals.
Humans don't really have "rivals" though, chimps are not even close to our intelligence.
Sure, they are smarter than most animals but not us.
It all changes when we hold a shotgun. Hahaha. But I love chimps!
if you’d been trained all your life to solve what are basically mini-games, you’d be this good or better
@@corue Didn't you see the video? In this particular subject they are far and away better than us.
this is why we should return to monke
then maybe we can finally make a successful crossbreed
Wow, impressive!
At 1:35 the chimp looks like a true slot machine addict, very human indeed
LMAO
Osu! players be like:
2:11 that's so cuuute
And we keep them in cages. Insanely sad
Until they show us they can innovate
I like how he's sitting all smug at 2:12 :)
It definitely makes sense. They have to have awareness of where their food sources are at and when they're ready to be eaten and they have to memorize their social order and know which one they owe favors to and so on. I would say parrots probably have the same type of memorization skills.
Humans must have been pretty good at memorizing things when our lives depended on it. Even in the '70s and '80s every kid could remember several important phone numbers and the names of most of the streets in their towns. And then GPS, Google maps, password managers etc etc came along and we hardly have to remember anything. We just look it up on the internet.
Everyone is a gangsta until the chimps starts giving SATs
rnt monkeys the reason humans can get aids
I wonder how elephants would perform in this test?
An elephant never forgets. An elephant also needs a massive screen to be able to use it with his/her trunk
They are smarter than any politician.
Chimps better memory ---> more intelligence ---> getting smarter than humans ---> humans devolving ---> chimps ruling the world ---> Planet of the apes
(Totally not from a movie)
1:41, the chimp went straight from 1 to 3. After 5 years, did anyone notice that?
I think his other hand did 2
Have done this test a few times over 2 days. My score is usually around 9, though not 90% of the time.
Nice Youve almost unlocked your inner chimp
Chimpanzees are not the ancestors of humans, they also evolved, but in a different way.
I study perception and memory. They should verify that a chimp's sensory memory is not longer than humans. Sensory memory differs from working memory. Sensory memory is a buffer that is stores a visual seen in parallel for a very short period of time. Effectively, a person sees an image for a specific length of time after it disappears. This image persistence is sensory memory.
Human visual sensory memory is between 0.5 and 3 seconds, depending on the stimulus, and it is closer to 0.5 for language characters (the buffer needs to be rapidly cleared for tasks like reading).
If the chimps sensory memory is longer, then the task is as easy as if the image never disappeared. This also explains why the chimp does ot so rapidly, so as to avoid losing the sensory memory image.
Good explanation and explains why they begin before they could possibly see where all the numbers are,
To: @LarrySmith-li4ou
The time was varied and gradually reduced for Ayumu to 'visualise' the numbers and order. He was able to achieve this in one-two-hundredth of a second.The experiments appear to demonstrate that he, and other chimpanzees, possess photographic, or eidetic memory.
I believe he is now well into the teens in terms of the numerals to recall.
It would also appear that this ability is 'across the board' with all the 'undomesticated' great apes.
An invaluable evolutionary tool considering their lifestyle and habitat.
If you just read the papers…
In more than one occasion, Ayumu memorized the layout, and he didn’t finish it immediately (because he gets distracted or whatever), but then he finishes the task correctly.
This moments occasionally happen for a few seconds (way more than just 3 seconds).
Surprising that a researcher doesn’t bother to take a look into the actual publications that exist…
To: '-The UnknownUser - Indeed! I believe it has been stated that the researchers would occasionally distract Ayumu intentionally to observe if this had any influence on his ability. Ha, ha! Apparently the distractions proved unsuccessful.
I think he did it fast so he could get more candy.
If what @-TheUnknownUser said is true, then I think that this is more likely.
3:05
That's the worst case of hemorrhoids I've ever seen!
They're so smart. Many animals are much smarter than we think. Perhaps even smarter than us in a certain sense.
Yes. In particular areas. We are specialized in understanding language. Which is an incredibly huge area that takes up alot of space in our brain.
this is one of the explanations commonly posited for this result: the language centre of the brain impedes upon the working memory centre
much more likely is that raising a chimp to do a very specific task like this means that unsurprisingly it’s very good at that task, and if you raised a human to do a similar specific task, they’d be as good or better
@@imamoronand9199 Perhaps, but the fact that their best human couldn't win is telling. Maybe with enough practice they could, but also maybe the couldn't. Either way, this is an incredible fact about chimps.
1:39 His hand gesture telling us ''Is that it? How is this meant to be difficult''
It takes him about 1 second to memorize it. Amazing!!
This make me happy when I watch it as humans and chimpanzees share same common ancestor.
no they dont
@@krzysztofq7420 yes they do
This is not an ordinary chimp. His mother Ai and he have lived their lives in an institute in Japan. Since he was born he has been solving puzzles and doing tests connected with comparisons between chimps and humans. How many thousand times has he done this test before the above program was made? How was he trained to recognise the symbols and perform the test?
Some humans have what is called an eidetic memory, whereby they can photographically remember what they see. Such a person will get this 100% correct every time with no training. This ability has been mimicked using deep hypnotic suggestion wherein a woman memorised over 900 pages of accountancy textbooks then went on to achieve 100% in a university level exam.
This chimpanzee cannot be used as a means to learn about general chimpanzee abilities. He is a special case. In the same way that Koko did not prove to us that all gorillas can speak sign language.
Chimps have an amazing short term memory, humans have an amazing long term memory. Simple as that.
Well said Epic Terry. Birds have great long term memory too...also Killer Whales and Elephants
Humans can also write stuff down and look things up on Google. You don't need to remember anything any more, whether it's phone numbers, travel directions (maps), passwords, names of film/pop stars, appointment times etc. It's all stored in the cloud.
i lolled at chris' bad memory
Let's see you try, big boy
And that's why brothers and sisters we must return to monke!
1:40 the chimp touches 1 then 3 but the test isn't over.
Maybe he touch the 2 with the other hand
I love how after the first time the chimp did it he had his hand to his side like "Really, this is what we're doing, is this supposed to be a challenge"
This is one of my favorite videos on UA-cam. I use this video often to show show people that intelligence is hard to define.
the fact that he remembers it quickly shows excellent memory
it shows excellent short term memory but if you could ask a chimp what it ate today it wouldn't know
@@ergerg6080 he would do this @3:10 on your dining table
@@ergerg6080 It would. Their memories are really good. Just not other stuff
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"pulls out a gun"
Thats human 1 and chimps nill
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His face at 2:11 - 'I'm smarter than you bro'
For those who are wondering, Chimps have incredible photographic memory so that they can maneuver in jungles without getting lost.
Yeah it makes so much sense. Imagine just connecting the numbers least to greatest or greatest to least, while they are shown, the fact that the chimp did it so fast-it was almost like he did it faster than if he could see them- says that it simply has photographic memory, and if not that, either that or it did some absolutely crazy mathematical computation to recall them. I'd say the number need to be higher, level 11.
I have a photogenic memory,
I could do it first try
Photogenic?
You don’t know what you are talking about…
photogenic means looking good in photos.
Chimp: getting food and being call smart for remembering better.
Elephants:ok
That's mindblowing!! Not just the test, but also that the chimp can memorize the symbols of those numbers and the order they should follow - that itself takes humans a LOT of time to do. And notice that the chimp looks at the numbers and INSTANTLY moves to the test, and passes it. 99% of humans could never do that and the 1% are gifted or have very high IQs.
@Austin Schoultz we didn’t evolve from chimps
@@MegaGoon62 technically no but we had the same ancestors so their implications that the chimps kept the ability and we let go of it is true.
When Humans build a test that proves their less competent than chimps
Weird, if you remember the pattern, it's actually pretty easy. I can do 17 in human benchmark because you can essentially partner up numbers or remember positions/patterns instead.
But he had to learn to count and how to do the puzzle also
@@CaliJose209 he don't know how to count, he memorize 9 symbols in an order it's different
The chimp only looking at it for 1 second
Me: wtffff 👁 👄 👁
I'm amazed at how fast the chimpanzee memorizes the number locations. As seen in the video, it looks like the chimpanzee starts immediately.
How does the chimp see the entire screen of numbers and process their order at once? Definitely the human is looking at them one at a time, yet the chimp must be looking at them all at once, like an entire field of view, in order for him to take literally one second to remember their order.
They didn’t mention that?!
There are a lot of cuts. I belive they skipped the waiting and showed it just solving it.
I did this test no problem.
@@thegrimreaper9552 You’re a liar
@@MrCWL About the part I beat the test no problem or the the cuts part? Or both?
@@thegrimreaper9552 they video shows the chimpanzee Solving the problem 3 times in a row with no cutscenes...
Both the director and the chimpanzee see the same screen and receive the same information as the 9 symbols are being shown, what makes the difference is the ability of the chimp to react so fast to that data.
Interesting... I wonder what factors pushed them to evolve a good short term memory, I wonder if they also have the ingenuity to match us humans.
Doing this test myself, I find it easiest not to memorize numbers separately, but the shapes of the numbers. That way it's much quicker to picture everything at once in your head and you can process the next number/shape as you go. Margin of error is low because each number/shape has very little in common with the others, except for 2 & 5 (for me).
Furthermore I try to picture & internalize the right order with a straight line leading to each shape. That pattern in my head makes it also easier to identify the right path should I lose track.
It's a very practical, but simple way of memorizing an order and I imagine chimps work similarly. Basically they don't think too much about it?
Your first strategy is using sensory memory, rather than working memory, which is likely what the chimp is doing.
I just added a comment that that is a flaw in the study. The chimp is not likely using working memory for the task, but sensory memory.
draw a mental line that connects the numbers in ascending order
Now this is the proof that we are not as superior to animals as we thought
no we are still superior is just now we know how some animals in certain situation will beat us and what even cooler is this makes sense when we diverged to become smarter and has longer lasting memory the ability to make split second decisions became somewhat obsolete, but primates need to be able to look at a forest and see if their predators and what danger lie so it paramount to their survival and they evolved to be the best
It's amazing that 1.) The chimp was able to learn the numbers 1-9 and their order in the first place and 2.) That the chimp can do this test almost instantaneously. I think a fair number of people with a reasonable memory can get it right 90% of the time as the chimp does but for me at least, it would take at least 10 seconds to feel confident enough to pass it at that rate. The chimp literally sees the numbers and starts pressing them immediately. I almost want to consider the possibility that the numbers are still visible to the chimp after he presses 1. Something similar like if you stare at an image for a long time then close your eyes, you still see the negative image. Meaning the chimp's eyes actually work a little differently and they still see the numbers after they flash off. Just complete speculation on my part and it's probably wrong but it's really astounding how quickly the chimp presses those numbers
Yes it makes more sense your assumption that suppose that chimps have better cognitive and memory abilities that humans.
I’m amazed, see how brilliant these animals are. 🙌🏾
I think this has a lot to do with conceptual vs Visual memory. Chimps brain is programmed to remember what happened VISUALLY. Whereas OUR brain is programmed to remember what happened CONCEPTUALLY. I am an IT engineer, and I do not recall what the inside of an induction engine that I learned in first year of college, but I can explain briefly the CONCEPT.
godismyshadow it is folly to think yourself as the master of all life because religion allows you that liberty. In the wild,(without technology) we will find ourselves outsmarted by the chimps. The point here is.. We took a different turn on the evolution road and it has brought us here. Well equipped to live the EXACT lives that we do. We're wonderfully well equipped to deal with our lives and they're well equipped for theirs. We are here as their cousins. We're not their masters. They have a right to this planet as much as we do. Not more, not less. Let us not look down on them.
I can remember what happened visually. I don´t know if it makes me autistic but I scored quite high in various tests for Asperger but not high enough to be counted as Asperger. Your conceptual memory (or the whole kind of thinking common for IT engineers, mathematics experts etc) is something I can´t understand at all.
I have the weird ability to visualize everything I think about or everthing I read constantly. When I can´t make a visual picture of something I´m lost. That´s why I´m lost in everything about mathematic because these are not things one can visualize like a story in the book. I thought everybody is visualizing constantly because I do it, I don´t even want to do it, it just happens. But then some people told me it´s weird because they don´t do it and can´t do it.
Animals are easier for me to understand than humans. They probably have more visual memory and thinking than humans. Which explains how they can think without speech (of that kind we know in humans). I can do it too.
@@Mysikrysa Perhaps what is seen as a negative (aspergers or autism). Is the human brain developing like our evolutionary ancestors.
I think the issue isn't with memory, but with pattern recognition. If there was more info available other than numbers, for example using color gradients or combinations of colors with specific numbers, so that humans can visually distinguish them, instead of trying to memorize the number values themselves, it might ne more fair. I'm fairly certain the patterns themselves are easier to remember and create muscle-memory groups, similar to how playing an instrument works with multiple notes at the same time. grouping numbers might be the answer to how humans can do it as well (think chords).
they have this test on human benchmark now. i dont understand how this guy struggles so much just to get to 9.