crystal bricks He was talking about that it’s too bad we knew he was going to survive the end of season 7 because Rebels and Solo came out BEFORE Season 7.
In terms of sheer entertainment, this is probably the best arc in the series. Every time I watch it, I can’t take my eyes off, it’s just so engaging and thrilling.
yes, it is quite well done for an 'official' fan-fic. Still, it makes me wonder who is going to be resurrected next. Grevious? Bane? Jango? Mace? Palpatine? oh wait they already did that.
Holy Cow fuck the lore n all them technicalities assasins dont take over entire planets he earned the title of darth from palps so therefore he earned the title of sith lord
Definitely my favorite arc in the Clone Wars right after the Siege. It was so well done and constructed that it gave Maul the perfect comeback story and development he needed.
If Darth Maul doesn't have a lower body half, where does all the, you know, stuff go? I guess I'd be a fed up mindless brute too without my lower half.
Yeah it kinda stretches the plausibility of the character being alive imo, knowing he was sliced in two. But he's not a Human so i guess it gets a pass.....just.
NooneofImportance I do think it’s ridiculous that maul survived but it’s worth it for what they did with the character. If you honestly prefer maul in phantom menace than him being an actual character in clone wars then you’re weird
@@samjackson9560 No I prefer the dead to stay dead. Resurrections should be reserved for either the most powerful or the most pure. Maul is neither. He isn't even pure evil, just a guy raised to do bad things. But his return had nothing to do with story, it was all about fan service, basically little more than T'pol's nude scenes in Enterprise, something to get the fans fapping all over themselves, rather than actually give those story beats to Savage Opress.
@@DefecTec It was a shit comic even back then. If you like it, that's fine, but don't be surprised when Grievous comes back from the dead, or Jango, or Palpatine (again, and again, and again). If nobody challenges people on stupid little things, it gets SO much harder once it gets to TLJ level stupidity.
Imagine if they didn’t bring him back. Went from a cool looking character to one of the most complex, tragic and interesting characters in the entire saga. This arc is a defining moment of the series as it changed maul so much for the better. Also I think maul should be the first character we do for a redo on the character ranking. The siege of mandalore arc portrayed him so well, I think he would rank much higher now
My favorite arc of the entire show except for the Siege of Mandalore arc. It really shows that Maul is not simply an animal, but also extremely cunning. It also works as the perfect ending for Satine, Pre Vizsla and Savage Opress. Satine dies in the arms of Obi-Wan, the person she loves, at the hands of the one person who hated Obi-Wan more than anyone. Pre Vizsla died due to the warrior code he had been glorifying, but still seems content in a way, as if he didn't want to die like that, but still can't think of a better death than at the hands of a greater warrior. And Savage, poor Savage did everything he could for his brother Maul just as he had for Feral, and in the end he sacrificed his own life, his last words simply being an apology that he couldn't do more. Finally, while Maul vs Ahsoka is great, my favorite lightsaber duel in the show is still Maul and Savage vs Palpatine, with Maul vs Pre Vizsla at number three.
Just remember guys that it was GEORGE LUCAS' idea to bring back Maul and it was Dave Filoni who thought it may be too risky. If you like Maul in the Clone Wars you need to toss some mad respect to George.
@@Davidguy57 For the Darth Maul arc specifically he said it was up to them to decide how to bring Maul back. Dave expresses this in the behind the scenes of the Clone Wars
I think Maul’s return in clone wars was such a major gain for his character in the whole story. Many thought his potential was wasted, but now he turns out to be a more notable complex character in all of Star Wars. Also Bc Sam Witwer ❤️
Maul's potential WAS wasted, because he DIED on Naboo. This is why I hate his return, the fans who just drink it all up, like wine at a Betazoid wedding. And it's done for the same goddamn reason, fanservice.
@@nooneofimportance2110 When he "died",he gained new motivations and the show definitely builds on that.He is easily one of the best written characters in all of SW.I haven't been a fan of SW for a long time(it's actually not that popular where I'm from) and I've just recently come across this series and Darth Maul is one of my favorites.He's just too good.I always had a rule when a character returns after death in shows,movies,anything.Do they expand the story of the character and make the character more complex than it was before?If they don't want to do that and just want to do fanservice then I'm not going to support it but what Clone Wars did for Maul is freakin amazing.
@@obritoelian9019 What the show did for Maul is amazing. My problem is that they did all of that for half a corpse instead of the character that they literally JUST introduced us to. They could have made Savage Opress one of the best characters ever made, instead they focused on making "the cool one" more fleshed out. Everyone knew that Savage was a discount Darth Maul, but they had the opportunity to make him more than that. On top of that, Maul's "survival", or more accurately his Frankenstienian resurrection, kinda makes Qui-Gon's death all the more of a WTF moment (the bad guy can get cut in half and come back but the guy with the tiny hole in his gut ... dead). Here's the thing, I actually believe they should never have killed off Darth Maul, he was a fantastic antagonist in PM. But bringing him back from the dead sets a dangerous and stupid precedent. This is how you end up with RoS. I love the Dragon Ball franchise, but by the 4th time we had a universal threat hanging over the team's head I had lost interest because by that time the Dragon Balls could always be used to fix everything, and nothing had consequence. Everything gets reset, no harm, no foul. To the point where there is no tension. The same applies to Star Wars. If a bad guy can shrug off death by being "too angry", then the next one might have an army of clones to body swap with (yes reference to dark empire and THAT awful plot point), or perhaps they jump into the world between worlds, evading mortal blows, perhaps they are so strong with the darkside that death can't touch them or some other nonsense like that. The excuses become lazier and lazier as time goes on. Problem is it's an awesome arc, written essentially written for the Star Wars equivalent of a nude scene. For all intents and purposes they might as well have had an entire arc explaining why Aela Secura has to fight completely nude.
Maul in Disney Canon: Episode I: The Phantom Menace = Mindless Assassin The Clone Wars Series & Maul: Son of Dathomir Comic = Great Character Writing Rebels = Great Ending Solo = Fan Service Cameo
Would have been cool if Maul send Savage after Kenobi when he escapes. That way Savage would have come to save Maul together with Rook Kast and Gar saxon. and fought in the war. We would have seen Savage v Grievous, Maul v Dooku and Talzin v Sidious in SoD. btw read Sith Hunters if you want to see a previously canon unaired episode of Maul and Savage between season 4 and 5.
Indeed. Makes you wonder what could’ve been if he defeated Obi Wan and completed his training. Granted I think he still would’ve been killed/discarded down the road, but if this is him at 50% of his potential, imagine what 100% would look like.
The Darth Plagueis novel and the old EU comics were amazing but they didn’t come from Lucas and therefore aren’t canon. In the Canonical timeline, Maul was a fully fledged Sith Lord and NOT an assassin. When his mind is restored he has this conversation with Savage: Maul - “The force...it feels out of balance” Savage - “The Clone Wars has begun” Maul - “Ah, so it began...without me”. Followed by “I was apprenticed to the most powerful being in the galaxy. I was destined to be...so much more.” In the final season we get information from Maul that leads us to believe that he knows the Clone Wars’ culmination will bring the end of the Republic, he merely lacks the knowledge of HOW it will happen. Sifo Dyas has yet to commission the Clone Army during the Phantom Menace. But based on that information and his conversation with Savage he was aware of Sidious’ plans, to an extent, and had been planned to be the Sith Lord general of the Confederacy rather than Dooku, the latter which becomes a Sith Lord ONLY because Maul is presumed dead which leads to him being “replaced”. In addition, in the Vader comic run from 2016-17 (?) Sidious has a conversation with Vader in which he states that he’s the culmination of the Sith’s grand plan. And he refers to Dooku as being a pawn and replaceable but refers to Mauls defeat as “a true loss”. If Anakin didn’t exist and Dooku wasn’t around waiting in the wings there is no indication that Sidious would’ve deviated from Maul (not taking into account Filoni’s comments about Duel of the Fates). He was a fully fledged Sith Lord and not merely an Assassin. The Clone Wars further demonstrates his cunning and power. Maul lost to Obi-Wan at only 21 years old. He was young, powerful beyond his years in comparison to most Jedi Masters, and very much arrogant due to the knowledge that the Clone Wars was near and the time of the Jedi was over.
Just the commercial for this season gives me chills. This is where maul was finally shown to be a true sith apprentice not a mindless brute but a Sith Lord
This arc was a great lesson in how to write a prequel story. Although we know in general where Star Wars is heading during the Clone Wars, everything going on in this arc was a blank slate. They could have done virtually anything with the story without running into canon issues. One thing with lots of the arcs that are more tied in to the mainline story is that you do ultimately know where things are going. That's not a knock against them at all since a lot of those are great, but it does ultimately cap off the stakes at a certain point - it's fun to see the pieces moving, but we know where all the big pieces are going to be at the start of ROTS. When you're watching this arc for the first time, you have literally no idea what is going to happen and where things are going to go. This arc is great and I was sucked into it start to finish. The Siege of Mandalore is an amazing arc, too, but it's built on this arc especially, and the depth we get out of other Mandalore arcs throughout the series.
Such an amazing arc. I do wish that it had been given one more episode in order to flesh out everything that was happening, but it's still just *so* good. I love that Maul puts Obi-Wan through such agony in "The Lawless" ... but when they meet in "Twin Suns" so many years later, Obi-Wan can say with such conviction, "Look what I have risen above." I'd love to see the Zygerrian Slaver arc next!
I wouldn't let my little kids watch clone wars. It's for 14 plus for sure, all star wars is at least minimum 14 years plus and remember when George Lucas was young they still called people upto 21 kids or even 25. By the kids George must mean at least teenagers.
It’s just disappointing that we never saw Maul again in any film context aside from the 10 sec. or so in Solo. He was such a great character that deserved to be portrayed in person more than in animated form.
Although I haven't seen the latest episodes, the more I watch how awesome the series was and the conclusion it got, I'll definitely be watching it shortly, albeit being spoiled by this point, I can only imagine I will still find it extremely entertaining to watch. Thanks Thor Skywalker for these videos, they make my day, consistently.
I think you give Maul far too much credit. He took over a world divided and partly took over the Underworld yes, but then he promptly ran those into the ground in short order. He drew the attention of the Republic, Jedi, CIS and Sith-all of whom are vastly more powerful than him and as a result his organization was devastated and scattered to the winds in CW and Son of Dathomir, that he dies alone still pursuing a pointless vendetta and forgotten by the galaxy at large is a pretty clear indication of his being a small fish in a big sea. All he effectively did was paint a target on his back from day one. Rather than being subtle and taking his time, like Tyranus and Sidious did in setting up their plans, Maul essentially tried to jump right to the position of galactic threat with a cadre of bandits. The only real threat Maul ever posed was with his knowledge of who Sidious was...and even then, who's going to believe him? When Sidious refers to him as becoming a 'rival' it's not in the sense of a rival for power, it's him refuting Maul's lie that he built his criminal empire to rejoin Sidious. Maul's not a strategic mastermind, if I may paraphrase a quote from Zahn about someone similarly over his head, "He's a tactically brilliant stormtrooper." In the sense Maul doesn't have any long term strategy for success at all, he is blinded by both vengeance against Kenobi and his complex at being replaced. He has no way of destroying the Jedi, defeating Sidious or claiming the Mantle of Dark Lord at all. Maul is at best what amounted to Tolkien's description of Saruman in relation to Sauron in the LotR books, "For all those arts and subtle devices, for which he forsook his former wisdom, and which fondly he imagined were his own, came but from Mordor; so that what he made was naught, only a little copy, a child's model or a slave's flattery, of that vast fortress, armory, prison, furnace of great power, Barad-dûr, the Dark Tower, which suffered no rival, and laughed at flattery, biding its time, secure in its pride and its immeasurable strength." Much in the same vein Maul doesn't have the slightest inkling what true power or strategic planning really are. He might not just be a dumb brute like Savage, but he's not much more intelligent than that.
You're undermining him, bud. Sidious and Dooku failed to seize control of Mandalore without alerting the Republic to their efforts. They failed three separate times. Maul got it his first try. Maul didn't just "partly" control the Underworld. He had all of the major factions, including the Black Sun, the Hutts, and Crimson Dawn (the three largest syndicates) under his command. He built Mandalore into a weapon, pooling in resources from the Collective, to secretly build his army, all while keeping the appearance of neutrality. Maul allowed Satine to message Kenobi and the Jedi, while knowing they wouldn't interfere, forcing Kenobi to fall into his clutches. Maul succeeded in getting his revenge then. Maul "ran them into the ground," because Kenobi managed to escape while Maul was distracted by Sidious himself. Sidious is the most powerful character in Star Wars with the best scheming feats. Of course he's going to outplay Maul. Because of that, Kenobi returned the news of Maul's rule to the Republic, while Sidious was cracking down on Maul with the CIS. Maul actually outplayed the CIS, capturing Dooku and Grievous, but Sidious also had control of the Republic and managed to free Grievous with an attack from them. Maul's forces only got whooped because they were getting ganged up on by the two major factions in the galaxy prematurely. Still, Maul didn't stop there. While the syndicates left Maul, he sought them out and forced them back into the Collective, where he continued to quietly rebuild. He then had a vision of the fall of the Jedi and Republic, and orchestrated a war to lure in Anakin and Kenobi, to kill the former. It was going to succeed, but Palpatine enacted his endgame at the same time, and lured them away. Regardless, the war on Mandalore was pointless to Maul, as he still controlled the Underworld and would continue influencing it for years to come, all while the Empire reigned over the galaxy. While Maul's ultimate goals never succeeded, due to his rival being the ultimate scheming genius that is Sidious, he was still successful in building and maintaining a criminal empire. What happened that eventually ended it is currently unknown. All we know is that at some point Maul became stranded on Malachor. While everything Maul built up eventually ended, it should be noted he was competing against Sidious, who would outplay any other adversary. Everything considered, Maul did incredible things. His best feats being conquering Mandalore quietly, forcing the largest criminal syndicates to bend the knee, and outplaying the CIS.
@@dylanemery9855 Again not really when you put this in perspective. Dooku and Palpatine were running the CIS as a proxy war, it's not meant to succeed, just bleed the Jedi and justify more emergency powers for the Supreme Chancellor. Mandalore doesn't fit anywhere into the strategy on a galactic level since it's a single planet and not even a particularly powerful one at that. Dooku is actively restraining the CIS through much of the war at Palpatine's direction, while the other is restraining the Republic to prolong the conflict. Palpatine DOES take over Mandalore on his first try(and for that matter so does the Republic when it actually deploys there) Maul's not just going up against Sidious when he openly takes over parts of(and yes it is parts of the Underworld, not the entire thing) his forces are decimated in his 'trap' of Dooku and Grievous, which doesn't actually defeat the CIS at all as Sidious other proxies are still in charge of it through the Council, as we saw the war go on after Dooku and Grievous were killed in RotS until the order to stop was given by Sidious himself. So by Maul actively and openly challenging the main galactic powers-the Republic and Jedi when he went after Kenobi multiple times- and the CIS and Sith through his war with Dooku and Sidious, Maul doesn't display strategic thinking at all, because he goes into needless conflict against both sides, there's nothing 'brilliant, genius or strategic' about drawing attention to yourself when you have zero advantages. Yes, he runs the Criminal Organizations he took over into the ground specifically because we see that Black Sun and Death Watch are badly crippled by the Republic and CIS in Son of Dathomir, then we KNOW from the Mandalorian that the Empire finished off Mandalore and Black Sun(at least in DisCan) which then led to Maul trying to rebuild with another syndicate later-and this apparently failed since when we see Maul he's stripped of allies or influence forgotten by Sidious and Vader as insignificant. We can also safely assume the Hutts abandoned him as we don't see their support after Son of Dathomir or in Solo. What Maul did was the equivalent of if Sealand took over some cartels tomorrow declared war on the US and Russia, that wouldn't be seen as intelligent, it'd be laughable and suicidal. Maul wasn't patient or capable of keeping a low profile because of his trauma, mental state and obsession with Kenobi and being cast aside by Sidious. Just listen to him in the Siege of Mandalore, that's not some hidden genius or even anyone particularly clever, it's a mentally broken child in over his head AGAIN, he repeats these same patterns in Rebels which leads to his death(again) at Kenobi's hands. That's the entire point of Maul's character, he's stagnant and delusional. He can't let go and as a result he never grows or improves. Dooku and Palpatine were both better at being Sith Lords and galactic shapers because they understood the benefit of duel identities, subtlety and being patient, they took their time and only moved into the open after a decade of ground work. Maul tried to past all preparation and go right to Warlord.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 "Again not really when you put this in perspective. Dooku and Palpatine were running the CIS as a proxy war, it's not meant to succeed, just bleed the Jedi and justify more emergency powers for the Supreme Chancellor." I fail to see how that invalidates Maul's brilliance. On the official Star Wars website, he's described as a "scheming mastermind." "Mandalore doesn't fit anywhere into the strategy on a galactic level since it's a single planet and not even a particularly powerful one at that." Did you not even watch the episodes? Maul had no intentions of just using Mandalore. Mandalore was just the first step in his plan. He would make it grow by pooling in resources accumulated from the Underworld that he controlled. Because Mandalore influenced a league of over two thousand neutral systems, Maul's endgame was to seize control of them overtime to make the Republic and CIS irrelevant. However, he simply lost to Sidious. That's not invalidating his brilliance. ANYONE would lose a battle of the wits and scheming to Sidious. "Palpatine DOES take over Mandalore on his first try(and for that matter so does the Republic when it actually deploys there)" You're actually wrong. The Siege of Mandalore was his fourth attempt, and only succeeded because Maul was never planning to win it. He orchestrated that war to lure in Anakin, but Sidious enacted his endgame at the same time and lured Anakin to him instead. "Maul's not just going up against Sidious when he openly takes over parts of(and yes it is parts of the Underworld, not the entire thing) his forces are decimated in his 'trap' of Dooku and Grievous, which doesn't actually defeat the CIS at all as Sidious other proxies are still in charge of it through the Council, as we saw the war go on after Dooku and Grievous were killed in RotS until the order to stop was given by Sidious himself." Maul had the Hutts, the Black Sun, the Pykes, Crimson Dawn, and several smaller syndicates under his control. Those are all of the major factions and more. He basically influenced the entire thing. Yes, the Hutts left after Sidious defeated him, but that's irrelevant. They were replaced by the Crimson Dawn, which Solo revealed were just as revered as the Hutts. His forces were being overrun (mind you, he's again going up against Sidious in this chess match), but he still lured them into a successful trap, capturing both Dooku and Grievous. While this didn't outright stop the CIS, it crippled their leadership severely. Dooku and Grievous were the tactical minds of the CIS, and lost to Maul. "So by Maul actively and openly challenging the main galactic powers-the Republic and Jedi when he went after Kenobi multiple times- and the CIS and Sith through his war with Dooku and Sidious, Maul doesn't display strategic thinking at all, because he goes into needless conflict against both sides, there's nothing 'brilliant, genius or strategic' about drawing attention to yourself when you have zero advantages." You don't even realize how wrong you actually are and it's hilarious. He never openly challenged them. He was literally ruling Mandalore from the shadows, using Almec as a puppet. The Republic had no reason to attack Mandalore, even knowing it was ruled by Death Watch and the crime families. Maul knew this. Kenobi had to go to Mandalore, into Maul's trap, alone because of this. Watch the episodes again. Maul was forced to openly engage in combat only after Sidious showed up to personally defeat and capture him. At that point, Sidious knew it was Maul who influenced Mandalore and the Underworld, and so Maul had been exposed, but only because Sidious got personally involved. When Sidious defeated Maul in SoD, he admitted that it was a difficult piece to maneuver, which is VERY high praise for Maul. Maul then quietly rebuilt his empire. "which then led to Maul trying to rebuild with another syndicate later-and this apparently failed since when we see Maul he's stripped of allies or influence forgotten by Sidious and Vader as insignificant." We don't know anything about it. All we know is that Maul was thriving in his Underworld empire for years during Imperial reign, and by the time of Rebels he had crashed onto Malachor. The syndicate could've simply moved on. It doesn't matter. What matters is that Maul had successfully created an empire that lasted for well over five years under Sidious' nose. That is hugely impressive. We know the empire was actively hunting him too, as he wields an Inquisitor saber in Solo and Rebels. They also nicknamed him "the shadow" and were still hunting him by the time of Rebels. That's hardly "insignificant." "Maul wasn't patient or capable of keeping a low profile because of his trauma, mental state and obsession with Kenobi and being cast aside by Sidious." Maul wasn't patient? He built an empire out of nothing because of his patience. He conquered Mandalore his first try because of his patience and planning. Maul got revenge on Kenobi because of his patience and tactical genius. He was capable of keeping a low profile. That's how he got his empire and revenge on Kenobi. He only openly engaged in combat when exposed by Sidious himself and forced to. After that, he again went back into keeping a low profile until he had a vision of the Empire and fall of the Republic. He then orchestrated the war to lure Anakin to him, but Sidious was simply better and lured Anakin away. "Just listen to him in the Siege of Mandalore, that's not some hidden genius or even anyone particularly clever, it's a mentally broken child in over his head AGAIN," He's paranoid because he's the only one who KNOWS what's going to happen. He had a vision, and calculated exactly what was going to happen. He sounded the way he did because he was terrified of what was to come. Clearly, you misunderstood. As soon as it happens, Maul's demeaner changes. He's calmer and more capable. Ahsoka was lured into his trap that wasn't meant for her, and she only survived because she wasn't his target. "Dooku and Palpatine were both better at being Sith Lords and galactic shapers because they understood the benefit of duel identities, subtlety and being patient, they took their time and only moved into the open after a decade of ground work. Maul tried to past all preparation and go right to Warlord." Okay, you're just a moron who wasn't paying any attention. Dooku literally did jack shit. Maul has proven that with way less resources, he can outsmart Dooku AND Grievous. Sidious conceded that proved Dooku's weakness. Dooku was comfortably given limitless resources from Sidious, who orchestrated everything. Dooku was clumsy enough to leave loose ends. Sidious had over a decade head start on Maul, who had to work from the ground up against the greatest schemer and tactical mind in Star Wars. Everything considered, Maul did a phenomenal job, and even Sidious admitted that his victory over him had been difficult. You're completely forgetting that Maul was competing against the absolute BEST. Nobody else would do half as good as Maul did, especially under his circumstances. Maul even proved to be better than Sidious at certain points. Sidious was simply too far into his game, again having over a decade head start, with limitless resources and influence. Everything considered, Maul was second only to Sidious.
@@dylanemery9855 Sigh, when a fool abandons reason, arguing with him is like administering medicine to the dead. The amount of inaccuracies and willfully biased misunderstanding of every single point have clouded your vision, your admiration of Maul has blinded you to his faults that have been systematically laid out in pain staking detail. The 'Official' SW website has changed and retconned what a character is and was several times just in the last two decades alone(to say nothing of how many times Lucas has changed HIS vision of characters) so the 'official' version is about as reliable as someone with a short attention span that changes their answer constantly to reflect whatever their 'current' stance on something is. Case in point, Maul was never described as a mastermind at all, then he was retconned, which was also a retcon of the character's personality to fit into a newer narrative. So five or ten years from now, he will very likely be something entirely different as things are remade and changed again as they always are. And you're quite wrong about both Sidious attempts as well as Dooku's influence on galactic events, laughably so. The entire Clone Wars and Palpatine's rise to power was orchestrated by Palpatine and Dooku, the destruction of the Jedi, the complete control of the galaxy was their doing. Discounting Dooku as 'not doing shit' but praising Maul who literally got every organization he made destroyed not by intent shows your lack of understanding of the topic. Then you just ignore that the entire objective of Son of Dathomir was to kill Talzin, that Maul is literally shown to be insignificant to the point of being ignored after Talzin is dead, his organization is decimated, his control over his little band of thugs is shaken since there is no profit to staying with him all he did was bring down the Republic and CIS on the underworld, then the Empire, if you don't grasp how that is stupid then i begin to see why Maul appeals to you, you share his delusions. Mandalore influenced planets to be neutral, not to take sides, when that neutrality was lost and Maul had openly declared himself through his actions against the Jedi and the sides in the war, so you're also wrong there, Maul was grasping at straws, even his 'plan' to lure Anakin doesn't make any sense as there's no reason at all for Anakin to believe him, no way Maul can defeat Anakin or even keep him out of the picture. That's what someone like you can't seem to grasp,, Maul isn't a chess master, he's not even particularly intelligent when you look at what his goals were and how he planned to reach them. Sidious does not say his victory was difficult, nor was he even playing a game against Maul, you might actually want to read Son of Dathomir. Dooku's finances, charisma, reputation and skills allowed him to construct the CIS and GAR under the nose of the Jedi over a decade, he recruited and trained both Grievous and Asajj, he caused a rift in the Jedi Order, erased their charts and logs to cover things until they needed to be found. Dooku did far more than Maul ever did in changing the galactic scene and if you were capable of grasping even simple truths you'd realize that was validated when Sidious chose Dooku over Maul on Mandalore, then again when after Talzin was killed, Sidious dismisses Maul completely and refers to Talzin instead. Maul didn't 'build an empire under Sidious nose' you ridiculous little man, he was completely ignored because he didn't matter and even ignored he still ended up a broken down loner with no syndicate and I hate to break this to you as you seem blindly loyal to Maul, but yes, he ended up a powerless fool dying alone on Tatooine completely forgotten by the galaxy at large and this was after Sidious forgot all about him, so he wasn't even competing against Sidious, he fouled up fine enough on his own. If you're incapable of understanding basic facts, then there's no helping you and I take my leave, sit in your delusions, but do remember where those same delusions got your character in the end. Good day.
Maul was a genius in deception and infiltration but was shortsighted in terms of learning how to maintain power and was shortsighted in knowing his former master would come for him and essentially restore the sith power dynamic aka, the rule of two by killing Savage Oppress and breaking what little spirit Maul had left making him another pawn for his ultimate goal. What really intrigued me of Maul, was how he used Obi-wan and his connections as well as used every available resource to his favor and ultimately made Obi-wan suffer and for the most part it worked almost poetically.
Taking over Mandalore isn't that hard, all you gotta do is challenge the leader to a 1v1 challenge, I mean you gotta be a good duelist and all, but still it requires some effort
This arc is beautiful. Siege of Mandalore lore is amazing, and possibly more emotional, but this arc really just hits home and shows the true genius of The Clone Wars.
Maul is such amazing character. He has evolved so much since what we saw in The Phantom Menace. It really goes to show how much of a central character of the Star Wars universe he is when we saw him again in the final season of The Clone Wars.
Maul was essential a blank slate coming out of TPM.... aside from being half a man. Almost another could have been built up to the position Maul was in sure the Battle of Mandalore.
because Bo-Katan kinda is weird, she was never redeemed for her atrocious stuff, it's like they wanted to make her a good guy and forgot she burned a village
@@goodmind4940 true that 😂😂 They could've made her change of heart a bit more believable. I like to think that Maul's takeover was a catalyst for her to step back and see things clearly; the ways of her sister then appealed to her true self more, she was ready to lead Mandalore, maybe not as a pacifist world but somewhere in between. Her transformation wasn't really made clear in the show though.
It was funny that Maul gave some grudging admiration for Asoka in her ruthless fighting and thinking on her feet, letting him fight for his own life as a distraction. He in turn did not not hesitate to escape without looking back. I don't think he has entirely given up on her as an apprentice as he would expect nothing less than the decisions she has made on her own behalf.
2:26 I can name a few. Young Justice Adventure Time Ben 10 Avatar the Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra Though not a TV show, Harry Potter is famous for doing this.
Just watched the first Mandalore arc and my girlfriend and I realized that Satine's attitude becomes hilarious if you see her as a stand-in for Kathleen Kennedy complaining about all the old-school fans
Imo CW: Season 5 was like the Empire Strikes Back or the Infinity War of the CW series. (Because it’s much darker than any other season, so many twists, and our heroes fail/pay a price). And CW: Season 7 was like the Return of the Jedi or Endgame of the CW series. (Because it is a satisfying conclusion to a great series) I have spoken.
You're right about S5 even though it's just the last two arcs(this one and Ahsoka walks away) that fit your description and while S7 is a great conclusion just like Endgame and ROTJ ,it certainly ends on a sadder note than either of them.Endgame's ending is bittersweet but the siege of Mandalore is a tragedy(even though we have the luxury of knowing what happens after it,that doesn't reduce the impact of the whole thing)
Was it really the will of the force that brought Mail and Visla as maul says? I don’t see why the force would really want maul to command a criminal empire or for saying to die.
I did a video similar to that not long ago, but only focused on the confirmed projects Perhaps I can do one talking about just the rumored ones... and there are many.
See, I'm the exact opposite: bringing Maul back was the second-dumbest thing Lucas ever did (worst was the Holiday Special). This whole arc is therefore also idiotic. Fruit of the poisonous tree; flawed foundation, flawed building; insert cliche here.
Okay, I'm the last person to complain about "spoilers" on the Internet. I think constant "spoiler disclaimers" and "spoiler tags" are insufferable. But you're putting spoilers right in your video titles and thumbnails. My wife and I just started watching "The Clone Wars" a few weeks ago and I'm going to have to unsubscribe if I keep seeing things like this whenever I'm on UA-cam.
I think that's why George Lucas decided to bring him back because he probably regretted killing off the character when his story was just getting started.
Fuck no. People have been sleeping on Maul for years until the Clone Wars finale made people realize just how great he is. Maul is barely in Star Wars, and when he is he's amazing. So just appreciate everything we get with him. He's easily the most compelling villain in the series, on the same level as Vader.
Respond to this comment with your nomination for which arc we should do next. Or vote with a thumbs up if it's listed.
Thor Skywalker Yoda’s arc
Battle of Kamino/ Rookies
Mon Cala ark anyone? 👀👀👀👀👀
Obi wan undercover
Ahsoka hunger games arc
Maul's return in Clone Wars was a great move because it enabled the show to setup a end game villian outside of the future Emperor!
Too bad we knew he survived because of friggin Solo and Rebels.
@@joelpierce1453 I'll just assume that's a joke, or hope XD
@@joelpierce1453 solo and rebels Cameout after clone wars
crystal bricks but before season 7
crystal bricks He was talking about that it’s too bad we knew he was going to survive the end of season 7 because Rebels and Solo came out BEFORE Season 7.
Both Maul and Obi Wan lost the one they cared most Savage and Satine. And again only Palpatine gained something out of this
That’s honestly why I hate and love Palpatine, he’s the only one who benefits from everyone’s suffering.
@Master Chief Petty Officer John 117
*laughs in Kim Jon Un*
@@gdtacos7082 Kim Jon Un is Palpatines Master
In terms of sheer entertainment, this is probably the best arc in the series. Every time I watch it, I can’t take my eyes off, it’s just so engaging and thrilling.
Only the strongest may rule.
A true roller coaster
My padawan
This and the siege of mandalore arc
This arc is one of the best arcs in the show
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This arc was the make it or break it arc for Maul's return and they hit it out of the park
They hit it out of the... Ray Park.
Doug no......just no
yes, it is quite well done for an 'official' fan-fic. Still, it makes me wonder who is going to be resurrected next. Grevious? Bane? Jango? Mace? Palpatine? oh wait they already did that.
Maul was actually done well, especially since before the clone wars he pretty much wasn’t a character.
@@nooneofimportance2110 if anyone should be resurrected it's Ben Solo
Maul wasn’t just a Sith Assassin
He was a Sith Lord
he was a Sith Assassin before Palpatine killed Plagueis
Mr. Finesse broken by Palpatine. Man broke it a lot. So did Vader in Legends with Starkiller, but you know what they say. Legends is the new canon
@Mr. Finesse calling him an "assassin" was a loop hole for the rule of two. Same goes for ventress or savage oppress
@Mr. Finesse savage was a sith assassin before he was mauls apprentice.
Holy Cow fuck the lore n all them technicalities assasins dont take over entire planets he earned the title of darth from palps so therefore he earned the title of sith lord
Definitely my favorite arc in the Clone Wars right after the Siege. It was so well done and constructed that it gave Maul the perfect comeback story and development he needed.
Darth Maul vs Pre Vizla is easily one of the best fight to the death duels in The Clone Wars. Pre Vizla died like a true Mandalorian
Reproduce, Maul cannot. Angry, he is of course
You should change your profile to empire strikes back yoda rather than the ****** Jedi.
GD Tacos nope, his stick is better than bacon.
Lol 😂
@@corrat4866 Indeed
Master Yoda consumed by Darth Vader i was For the younglings sorry i am forgive me Master Yoda
If Darth Maul doesn't have a lower body half,
where does all the, you know, stuff go?
I guess I'd be a fed up mindless brute too without my lower half.
He just has a hole in his legs where his intestines end.
But his new legs makes him look taller
@@AdmiralWillisLee1942 I dont think that's what he was talking about
Yeah it kinda stretches the plausibility of the character being alive imo, knowing he was sliced in two. But he's not a Human so i guess it gets a pass.....just.
I simply accepted that he's not human so his organs could be differently located around the body. Or even a certain degree of regeneration.
“I’m not like you. I never was. . .” -Savage’s final words
Sums up his character. Created as a Maul replacement until the real Maul returned.
No, basically Opress is exactly what Maul should have stayed, and what Maul became is what Savage should have been. Also Maul should have stayed dead.
NooneofImportance I do think it’s ridiculous that maul survived but it’s worth it for what they did with the character. If you honestly prefer maul in phantom menace than him being an actual character in clone wars then you’re weird
NooneofImportance nah. Even in an old legends comic Maul comes to Tatooine to find Obi Wan
@@samjackson9560 No I prefer the dead to stay dead. Resurrections should be reserved for either the most powerful or the most pure. Maul is neither. He isn't even pure evil, just a guy raised to do bad things. But his return had nothing to do with story, it was all about fan service, basically little more than T'pol's nude scenes in Enterprise, something to get the fans fapping all over themselves, rather than actually give those story beats to Savage Opress.
@@DefecTec It was a shit comic even back then. If you like it, that's fine, but don't be surprised when Grievous comes back from the dead, or Jango, or Palpatine (again, and again, and again). If nobody challenges people on stupid little things, it gets SO much harder once it gets to TLJ level stupidity.
Imagine if they didn’t bring him back. Went from a cool looking character to one of the most complex, tragic and interesting characters in the entire saga. This arc is a defining moment of the series as it changed maul so much for the better. Also I think maul should be the first character we do for a redo on the character ranking. The siege of mandalore arc portrayed him so well, I think he would rank much higher now
Absolutely agree on the reranking. The Siege of Mandalore added so much to his character.
Just remember Maul earns and throws away Mandalore when it no longer works for him
Just a front to start his criminal empire
My favorite arc of the entire show except for the Siege of Mandalore arc. It really shows that Maul is not simply an animal, but also extremely cunning. It also works as the perfect ending for Satine, Pre Vizsla and Savage Opress. Satine dies in the arms of Obi-Wan, the person she loves, at the hands of the one person who hated Obi-Wan more than anyone. Pre Vizsla died due to the warrior code he had been glorifying, but still seems content in a way, as if he didn't want to die like that, but still can't think of a better death than at the hands of a greater warrior. And Savage, poor Savage did everything he could for his brother Maul just as he had for Feral, and in the end he sacrificed his own life, his last words simply being an apology that he couldn't do more. Finally, while Maul vs Ahsoka is great, my favorite lightsaber duel in the show is still Maul and Savage vs Palpatine, with Maul vs Pre Vizsla at number three.
I’m sure I wasn’t the only one routing for maul in his duel with sidious
How odd after seeing maul kill satine but yes I did root for him over sidious
Just remember guys that it was GEORGE LUCAS' idea to bring back Maul and it was Dave Filoni who thought it may be too risky. If you like Maul in the Clone Wars you need to toss some mad respect to George.
Just the idea though, not really the writing. He let the team handle that part
@@Brandon.S.Brooker He had a big influence on the writing and most other parts of the show. He deserves a lot of credit for that
@@Davidguy57 For the Darth Maul arc specifically he said it was up to them to decide how to bring Maul back. Dave expresses this in the behind the scenes of the Clone Wars
Wonder Years references, Thor? Why don't you just change the name of the channel to Boomer Skywalker, already?
I think Maul’s return in clone wars was such a major gain for his character in the whole story. Many thought his potential was wasted, but now he turns out to be a more notable complex character in all of Star Wars. Also Bc Sam Witwer ❤️
Maul's potential WAS wasted, because he DIED on Naboo. This is why I hate his return, the fans who just drink it all up, like wine at a Betazoid wedding. And it's done for the same goddamn reason, fanservice.
@@nooneofimportance2110 When he "died",he gained new motivations and the show definitely builds on that.He is easily one of the best written characters in all of SW.I haven't been a fan of SW for a long time(it's actually not that popular where I'm from) and I've just recently come across this series and Darth Maul is one of my favorites.He's just too good.I always had a rule when a character returns after death in shows,movies,anything.Do they expand the story of the character and make the character more complex than it was before?If they don't want to do that and just want to do fanservice then I'm not going to support it but what Clone Wars did for Maul is freakin amazing.
@@obritoelian9019 What the show did for Maul is amazing. My problem is that they did all of that for half a corpse instead of the character that they literally JUST introduced us to. They could have made Savage Opress one of the best characters ever made, instead they focused on making "the cool one" more fleshed out. Everyone knew that Savage was a discount Darth Maul, but they had the opportunity to make him more than that.
On top of that, Maul's "survival", or more accurately his Frankenstienian resurrection, kinda makes Qui-Gon's death all the more of a WTF moment (the bad guy can get cut in half and come back but the guy with the tiny hole in his gut ... dead).
Here's the thing, I actually believe they should never have killed off Darth Maul, he was a fantastic antagonist in PM. But bringing him back from the dead sets a dangerous and stupid precedent. This is how you end up with RoS.
I love the Dragon Ball franchise, but by the 4th time we had a universal threat hanging over the team's head I had lost interest because by that time the Dragon Balls could always be used to fix everything, and nothing had consequence. Everything gets reset, no harm, no foul. To the point where there is no tension. The same applies to Star Wars.
If a bad guy can shrug off death by being "too angry", then the next one might have an army of clones to body swap with (yes reference to dark empire and THAT awful plot point), or perhaps they jump into the world between worlds, evading mortal blows, perhaps they are so strong with the darkside that death can't touch them or some other nonsense like that. The excuses become lazier and lazier as time goes on.
Problem is it's an awesome arc, written essentially written for the Star Wars equivalent of a nude scene. For all intents and purposes they might as well have had an entire arc explaining why Aela Secura has to fight completely nude.
Maul in Disney Canon:
Episode I: The Phantom Menace = Mindless Assassin
The Clone Wars Series & Maul: Son of Dathomir Comic = Great Character Writing
Rebels = Great Ending
Solo = Fan Service Cameo
Would have been cool if Maul send Savage after Kenobi when he escapes. That way Savage would have come to save Maul together with Rook Kast and Gar saxon. and fought in the war. We would have seen Savage v Grievous, Maul v Dooku and Talzin v Sidious in SoD.
btw read Sith Hunters if you want to see a previously canon unaired episode of Maul and Savage between season 4 and 5.
Indeed.
Makes you wonder what could’ve been if he defeated Obi Wan and completed his training.
Granted I think he still would’ve been killed/discarded down the road, but if this is him at 50% of his potential, imagine what 100% would look like.
The Darth Plagueis novel and the old EU comics were amazing but they didn’t come from Lucas and therefore aren’t canon. In the Canonical timeline, Maul was a fully fledged Sith Lord and NOT an assassin. When his mind is restored he has this conversation with Savage:
Maul - “The force...it feels out of balance”
Savage - “The Clone Wars has begun”
Maul - “Ah, so it began...without me”.
Followed by
“I was apprenticed to the most powerful being in the galaxy. I was destined to be...so much more.”
In the final season we get information from Maul that leads us to believe that he knows the Clone Wars’ culmination will bring the end of the Republic, he merely lacks the knowledge of HOW it will happen. Sifo Dyas has yet to commission the Clone Army during the Phantom Menace. But based on that information and his conversation with Savage he was aware of Sidious’ plans, to an extent, and had been planned to be the Sith Lord general of the Confederacy rather than Dooku, the latter which becomes a Sith Lord ONLY because Maul is presumed dead which leads to him being “replaced”.
In addition, in the Vader comic run from 2016-17 (?) Sidious has a conversation with Vader in which he states that he’s the culmination of the Sith’s grand plan. And he refers to Dooku as being a pawn and replaceable but refers to Mauls defeat as “a true loss”. If Anakin didn’t exist and Dooku wasn’t around waiting in the wings there is no indication that Sidious would’ve deviated from Maul (not taking into account Filoni’s comments about Duel of the Fates). He was a fully fledged Sith Lord and not merely an Assassin. The Clone Wars further demonstrates his cunning and power.
Maul lost to Obi-Wan at only 21 years old. He was young, powerful beyond his years in comparison to most Jedi Masters, and very much arrogant due to the knowledge that the Clone Wars was near and the time of the Jedi was over.
My most re watched Ark in the Series.
Anything Maul Basically
The Second Battle Of Geonosis Arc
Would you please do a Star Wars Christmas Special Arc? I'm ready to lose the will to live.
Just the commercial for this season gives me chills. This is where maul was finally shown to be a true sith apprentice not a mindless brute but a Sith Lord
This arc was a great lesson in how to write a prequel story. Although we know in general where Star Wars is heading during the Clone Wars, everything going on in this arc was a blank slate. They could have done virtually anything with the story without running into canon issues.
One thing with lots of the arcs that are more tied in to the mainline story is that you do ultimately know where things are going. That's not a knock against them at all since a lot of those are great, but it does ultimately cap off the stakes at a certain point - it's fun to see the pieces moving, but we know where all the big pieces are going to be at the start of ROTS.
When you're watching this arc for the first time, you have literally no idea what is going to happen and where things are going to go. This arc is great and I was sucked into it start to finish. The Siege of Mandalore is an amazing arc, too, but it's built on this arc especially, and the depth we get out of other Mandalore arcs throughout the series.
The problem with siege of mandalore is that it came out after rebels and solo smh🤦🏽♂️
I feel bad for maul.
Sale at the Maul!!!
- Everything's half off!
@@victorbruant389 Haha
I would if he did not kill Satine 5 minutes earlier.
And when he murdered an entire village.
Yeah I kinda don't feel bad for him anymore
Such an amazing arc. I do wish that it had been given one more episode in order to flesh out everything that was happening, but it's still just *so* good. I love that Maul puts Obi-Wan through such agony in "The Lawless" ... but when they meet in "Twin Suns" so many years later, Obi-Wan can say with such conviction, "Look what I have risen above."
I'd love to see the Zygerrian Slaver arc next!
Filoni: i'm not going to kill you... i have... other uses for you.
Maul: I feel a presence, a presence I haven't felt since...
*Wide Putin music intensifies*
Maul: MASTER
Domino squad arc if it hasn’t been done I believe this arc gives the clones more depth and the struggles they go through and that there not perfect
I wouldn't let my little kids watch clone wars. It's for 14 plus for sure, all star wars is at least minimum 14 years plus and remember when George Lucas was young they still called people upto 21 kids or even 25. By the kids George must mean at least teenagers.
It’s just disappointing that we never saw Maul again in any film context aside from the 10 sec. or so in Solo. He was such a great character that deserved to be portrayed in person more than in animated form.
Although I haven't seen the latest episodes, the more I watch how awesome the series was and the conclusion it got, I'll definitely be watching it shortly, albeit being spoiled by this point, I can only imagine I will still find it extremely entertaining to watch. Thanks Thor Skywalker for these videos, they make my day, consistently.
Not a mindless brute but then he decided to get his lightsaber polished on instagram... :D
Maul's duel with Vizsla is an absolute BANGER of a fight.
I think you give Maul far too much credit. He took over a world divided and partly took over the Underworld yes, but then he promptly ran those into the ground in short order. He drew the attention of the Republic, Jedi, CIS and Sith-all of whom are vastly more powerful than him and as a result his organization was devastated and scattered to the winds in CW and Son of Dathomir, that he dies alone still pursuing a pointless vendetta and forgotten by the galaxy at large is a pretty clear indication of his being a small fish in a big sea. All he effectively did was paint a target on his back from day one. Rather than being subtle and taking his time, like Tyranus and Sidious did in setting up their plans, Maul essentially tried to jump right to the position of galactic threat with a cadre of bandits. The only real threat Maul ever posed was with his knowledge of who Sidious was...and even then, who's going to believe him? When Sidious refers to him as becoming a 'rival' it's not in the sense of a rival for power, it's him refuting Maul's lie that he built his criminal empire to rejoin Sidious. Maul's not a strategic mastermind, if I may paraphrase a quote from Zahn about someone similarly over his head, "He's a tactically brilliant stormtrooper." In the sense Maul doesn't have any long term strategy for success at all, he is blinded by both vengeance against Kenobi and his complex at being replaced. He has no way of destroying the Jedi, defeating Sidious or claiming the Mantle of Dark Lord at all. Maul is at best what amounted to Tolkien's description of Saruman in relation to Sauron in the LotR books, "For all those arts and subtle devices, for which he forsook his former wisdom, and which fondly he imagined were his own, came but from Mordor; so that what he made was naught, only a little copy, a child's model or a slave's flattery, of that vast fortress, armory, prison, furnace of great power, Barad-dûr, the Dark Tower, which suffered no rival, and laughed at flattery, biding its time, secure in its pride and its immeasurable strength." Much in the same vein Maul doesn't have the slightest inkling what true power or strategic planning really are. He might not just be a dumb brute like Savage, but he's not much more intelligent than that.
You're undermining him, bud. Sidious and Dooku failed to seize control of Mandalore without alerting the Republic to their efforts. They failed three separate times. Maul got it his first try. Maul didn't just "partly" control the Underworld. He had all of the major factions, including the Black Sun, the Hutts, and Crimson Dawn (the three largest syndicates) under his command. He built Mandalore into a weapon, pooling in resources from the Collective, to secretly build his army, all while keeping the appearance of neutrality. Maul allowed Satine to message Kenobi and the Jedi, while knowing they wouldn't interfere, forcing Kenobi to fall into his clutches. Maul succeeded in getting his revenge then. Maul "ran them into the ground," because Kenobi managed to escape while Maul was distracted by Sidious himself. Sidious is the most powerful character in Star Wars with the best scheming feats. Of course he's going to outplay Maul. Because of that, Kenobi returned the news of Maul's rule to the Republic, while Sidious was cracking down on Maul with the CIS. Maul actually outplayed the CIS, capturing Dooku and Grievous, but Sidious also had control of the Republic and managed to free Grievous with an attack from them. Maul's forces only got whooped because they were getting ganged up on by the two major factions in the galaxy prematurely. Still, Maul didn't stop there. While the syndicates left Maul, he sought them out and forced them back into the Collective, where he continued to quietly rebuild. He then had a vision of the fall of the Jedi and Republic, and orchestrated a war to lure in Anakin and Kenobi, to kill the former. It was going to succeed, but Palpatine enacted his endgame at the same time, and lured them away. Regardless, the war on Mandalore was pointless to Maul, as he still controlled the Underworld and would continue influencing it for years to come, all while the Empire reigned over the galaxy. While Maul's ultimate goals never succeeded, due to his rival being the ultimate scheming genius that is Sidious, he was still successful in building and maintaining a criminal empire. What happened that eventually ended it is currently unknown. All we know is that at some point Maul became stranded on Malachor. While everything Maul built up eventually ended, it should be noted he was competing against Sidious, who would outplay any other adversary. Everything considered, Maul did incredible things. His best feats being conquering Mandalore quietly, forcing the largest criminal syndicates to bend the knee, and outplaying the CIS.
@@dylanemery9855 Again not really when you put this in perspective. Dooku and Palpatine were running the CIS as a proxy war, it's not meant to succeed, just bleed the Jedi and justify more emergency powers for the Supreme Chancellor. Mandalore doesn't fit anywhere into the strategy on a galactic level since it's a single planet and not even a particularly powerful one at that. Dooku is actively restraining the CIS through much of the war at Palpatine's direction, while the other is restraining the Republic to prolong the conflict. Palpatine DOES take over Mandalore on his first try(and for that matter so does the Republic when it actually deploys there) Maul's not just going up against Sidious when he openly takes over parts of(and yes it is parts of the Underworld, not the entire thing) his forces are decimated in his 'trap' of Dooku and Grievous, which doesn't actually defeat the CIS at all as Sidious other proxies are still in charge of it through the Council, as we saw the war go on after Dooku and Grievous were killed in RotS until the order to stop was given by Sidious himself. So by Maul actively and openly challenging the main galactic powers-the Republic and Jedi when he went after Kenobi multiple times- and the CIS and Sith through his war with Dooku and Sidious, Maul doesn't display strategic thinking at all, because he goes into needless conflict against both sides, there's nothing 'brilliant, genius or strategic' about drawing attention to yourself when you have zero advantages. Yes, he runs the Criminal Organizations he took over into the ground specifically because we see that Black Sun and Death Watch are badly crippled by the Republic and CIS in Son of Dathomir, then we KNOW from the Mandalorian that the Empire finished off Mandalore and Black Sun(at least in DisCan) which then led to Maul trying to rebuild with another syndicate later-and this apparently failed since when we see Maul he's stripped of allies or influence forgotten by Sidious and Vader as insignificant. We can also safely assume the Hutts abandoned him as we don't see their support after Son of Dathomir or in Solo. What Maul did was the equivalent of if Sealand took over some cartels tomorrow declared war on the US and Russia, that wouldn't be seen as intelligent, it'd be laughable and suicidal. Maul wasn't patient or capable of keeping a low profile because of his trauma, mental state and obsession with Kenobi and being cast aside by Sidious. Just listen to him in the Siege of Mandalore, that's not some hidden genius or even anyone particularly clever, it's a mentally broken child in over his head AGAIN, he repeats these same patterns in Rebels which leads to his death(again) at Kenobi's hands. That's the entire point of Maul's character, he's stagnant and delusional. He can't let go and as a result he never grows or improves. Dooku and Palpatine were both better at being Sith Lords and galactic shapers because they understood the benefit of duel identities, subtlety and being patient, they took their time and only moved into the open after a decade of ground work. Maul tried to past all preparation and go right to Warlord.
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@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 "Again not really when you put this in perspective. Dooku and Palpatine were running the CIS as a proxy war, it's not meant to succeed, just bleed the Jedi and justify more emergency powers for the Supreme Chancellor."
I fail to see how that invalidates Maul's brilliance. On the official Star Wars website, he's described as a "scheming mastermind."
"Mandalore doesn't fit anywhere into the strategy on a galactic level since it's a single planet and not even a particularly powerful one at that."
Did you not even watch the episodes? Maul had no intentions of just using Mandalore. Mandalore was just the first step in his plan. He would make it grow by pooling in resources accumulated from the Underworld that he controlled. Because Mandalore influenced a league of over two thousand neutral systems, Maul's endgame was to seize control of them overtime to make the Republic and CIS irrelevant. However, he simply lost to Sidious. That's not invalidating his brilliance. ANYONE would lose a battle of the wits and scheming to Sidious.
"Palpatine DOES take over Mandalore on his first try(and for that matter so does the Republic when it actually deploys there)"
You're actually wrong. The Siege of Mandalore was his fourth attempt, and only succeeded because Maul was never planning to win it. He orchestrated that war to lure in Anakin, but Sidious enacted his endgame at the same time and lured Anakin to him instead.
"Maul's not just going up against Sidious when he openly takes over parts of(and yes it is parts of the Underworld, not the entire thing) his forces are decimated in his 'trap' of Dooku and Grievous, which doesn't actually defeat the CIS at all as Sidious other proxies are still in charge of it through the Council, as we saw the war go on after Dooku and Grievous were killed in RotS until the order to stop was given by Sidious himself."
Maul had the Hutts, the Black Sun, the Pykes, Crimson Dawn, and several smaller syndicates under his control. Those are all of the major factions and more. He basically influenced the entire thing. Yes, the Hutts left after Sidious defeated him, but that's irrelevant. They were replaced by the Crimson Dawn, which Solo revealed were just as revered as the Hutts. His forces were being overrun (mind you, he's again going up against Sidious in this chess match), but he still lured them into a successful trap, capturing both Dooku and Grievous. While this didn't outright stop the CIS, it crippled their leadership severely. Dooku and Grievous were the tactical minds of the CIS, and lost to Maul.
"So by Maul actively and openly challenging the main galactic powers-the Republic and Jedi when he went after Kenobi multiple times- and the CIS and Sith through his war with Dooku and Sidious, Maul doesn't display strategic thinking at all, because he goes into needless conflict against both sides, there's nothing 'brilliant, genius or strategic' about drawing attention to yourself when you have zero advantages."
You don't even realize how wrong you actually are and it's hilarious. He never openly challenged them. He was literally ruling Mandalore from the shadows, using Almec as a puppet. The Republic had no reason to attack Mandalore, even knowing it was ruled by Death Watch and the crime families. Maul knew this. Kenobi had to go to Mandalore, into Maul's trap, alone because of this. Watch the episodes again. Maul was forced to openly engage in combat only after Sidious showed up to personally defeat and capture him. At that point, Sidious knew it was Maul who influenced Mandalore and the Underworld, and so Maul had been exposed, but only because Sidious got personally involved. When Sidious defeated Maul in SoD, he admitted that it was a difficult piece to maneuver, which is VERY high praise for Maul. Maul then quietly rebuilt his empire.
"which then led to Maul trying to rebuild with another syndicate later-and this apparently failed since when we see Maul he's stripped of allies or influence forgotten by Sidious and Vader as insignificant."
We don't know anything about it. All we know is that Maul was thriving in his Underworld empire for years during Imperial reign, and by the time of Rebels he had crashed onto Malachor. The syndicate could've simply moved on. It doesn't matter. What matters is that Maul had successfully created an empire that lasted for well over five years under Sidious' nose. That is hugely impressive. We know the empire was actively hunting him too, as he wields an Inquisitor saber in Solo and Rebels. They also nicknamed him "the shadow" and were still hunting him by the time of Rebels. That's hardly "insignificant."
"Maul wasn't patient or capable of keeping a low profile because of his trauma, mental state and obsession with Kenobi and being cast aside by Sidious."
Maul wasn't patient? He built an empire out of nothing because of his patience. He conquered Mandalore his first try because of his patience and planning. Maul got revenge on Kenobi because of his patience and tactical genius. He was capable of keeping a low profile. That's how he got his empire and revenge on Kenobi. He only openly engaged in combat when exposed by Sidious himself and forced to. After that, he again went back into keeping a low profile until he had a vision of the Empire and fall of the Republic. He then orchestrated the war to lure Anakin to him, but Sidious was simply better and lured Anakin away.
"Just listen to him in the Siege of Mandalore, that's not some hidden genius or even anyone particularly clever, it's a mentally broken child in over his head AGAIN,"
He's paranoid because he's the only one who KNOWS what's going to happen. He had a vision, and calculated exactly what was going to happen. He sounded the way he did because he was terrified of what was to come. Clearly, you misunderstood. As soon as it happens, Maul's demeaner changes. He's calmer and more capable. Ahsoka was lured into his trap that wasn't meant for her, and she only survived because she wasn't his target.
"Dooku and Palpatine were both better at being Sith Lords and galactic shapers because they understood the benefit of duel identities, subtlety and being patient, they took their time and only moved into the open after a decade of ground work. Maul tried to past all preparation and go right to Warlord."
Okay, you're just a moron who wasn't paying any attention. Dooku literally did jack shit. Maul has proven that with way less resources, he can outsmart Dooku AND Grievous. Sidious conceded that proved Dooku's weakness. Dooku was comfortably given limitless resources from Sidious, who orchestrated everything. Dooku was clumsy enough to leave loose ends. Sidious had over a decade head start on Maul, who had to work from the ground up against the greatest schemer and tactical mind in Star Wars. Everything considered, Maul did a phenomenal job, and even Sidious admitted that his victory over him had been difficult. You're completely forgetting that Maul was competing against the absolute BEST. Nobody else would do half as good as Maul did, especially under his circumstances. Maul even proved to be better than Sidious at certain points. Sidious was simply too far into his game, again having over a decade head start, with limitless resources and influence. Everything considered, Maul was second only to Sidious.
@@dylanemery9855 Sigh, when a fool abandons reason, arguing with him is like administering medicine to the dead. The amount of inaccuracies and willfully biased misunderstanding of every single point have clouded your vision, your admiration of Maul has blinded you to his faults that have been systematically laid out in pain staking detail.
The 'Official' SW website has changed and retconned what a character is and was several times just in the last two decades alone(to say nothing of how many times Lucas has changed HIS vision of characters) so the 'official' version is about as reliable as someone with a short attention span that changes their answer constantly to reflect whatever their 'current' stance on something is. Case in point, Maul was never described as a mastermind at all, then he was retconned, which was also a retcon of the character's personality to fit into a newer narrative. So five or ten years from now, he will very likely be something entirely different as things are remade and changed again as they always are.
And you're quite wrong about both Sidious attempts as well as Dooku's influence on galactic events, laughably so. The entire Clone Wars and Palpatine's rise to power was orchestrated by Palpatine and Dooku, the destruction of the Jedi, the complete control of the galaxy was their doing. Discounting Dooku as 'not doing shit' but praising Maul who literally got every organization he made destroyed not by intent shows your lack of understanding of the topic. Then you just ignore that the entire objective of Son of Dathomir was to kill Talzin, that Maul is literally shown to be insignificant to the point of being ignored after Talzin is dead, his organization is decimated, his control over his little band of thugs is shaken since there is no profit to staying with him all he did was bring down the Republic and CIS on the underworld, then the Empire, if you don't grasp how that is stupid then i begin to see why Maul appeals to you, you share his delusions. Mandalore influenced planets to be neutral, not to take sides, when that neutrality was lost and Maul had openly declared himself through his actions against the Jedi and the sides in the war, so you're also wrong there, Maul was grasping at straws, even his 'plan' to lure Anakin doesn't make any sense as there's no reason at all for Anakin to believe him, no way Maul can defeat Anakin or even keep him out of the picture. That's what someone like you can't seem to grasp,, Maul isn't a chess master, he's not even particularly intelligent when you look at what his goals were and how he planned to reach them. Sidious does not say his victory was difficult, nor was he even playing a game against Maul, you might actually want to read Son of Dathomir. Dooku's finances, charisma, reputation and skills allowed him to construct the CIS and GAR under the nose of the Jedi over a decade, he recruited and trained both Grievous and Asajj, he caused a rift in the Jedi Order, erased their charts and logs to cover things until they needed to be found. Dooku did far more than Maul ever did in changing the galactic scene and if you were capable of grasping even simple truths you'd realize that was validated when Sidious chose Dooku over Maul on Mandalore, then again when after Talzin was killed, Sidious dismisses Maul completely and refers to Talzin instead. Maul didn't 'build an empire under Sidious nose' you ridiculous little man, he was completely ignored because he didn't matter and even ignored he still ended up a broken down loner with no syndicate and I hate to break this to you as you seem blindly loyal to Maul, but yes, he ended up a powerless fool dying alone on Tatooine completely forgotten by the galaxy at large and this was after Sidious forgot all about him, so he wasn't even competing against Sidious, he fouled up fine enough on his own.
If you're incapable of understanding basic facts, then there's no helping you and I take my leave, sit in your delusions, but do remember where those same delusions got your character in the end. Good day.
Maul was a genius in deception and infiltration but was shortsighted in terms of learning how to maintain power and was shortsighted in knowing his former master would come for him and essentially restore the sith power dynamic aka, the rule of two by killing Savage Oppress and breaking what little spirit Maul had left making him another pawn for his ultimate goal. What really intrigued me of Maul, was how he used Obi-wan and his connections as well as used every available resource to his favor and ultimately made Obi-wan suffer and for the most part it worked almost poetically.
Maul should have stayed dead.
Taking over Mandalore isn't that hard, all you gotta do is challenge the leader to a 1v1 challenge, I mean you gotta be a good duelist and all, but still it requires some effort
This arc is beautiful. Siege of Mandalore lore is amazing, and possibly more emotional, but this arc really just hits home and shows the true genius of The Clone Wars.
Shameless has been running for a decade now, so we've gotten to watch the kids grow up and become their own person
Eminence was sooo badass 🔥🔥🔥
Maul is such amazing character. He has evolved so much since what we saw in The Phantom Menace. It really goes to show how much of a central character of the Star Wars universe he is when we saw him again in the final season of The Clone Wars.
Now that I think of it... ruling mandalore looks cool I WANT IT
Not if anything to say about i have
Let's not forget Lucas was behind bringing Maul back.
D-Squad droid arc with colonel meebur gascon
Another show that grew with its audience is AVATAR - The Last Airbender
Maul was essential a blank slate coming out of TPM.... aside from being half a man. Almost another could have been built up to the position Maul was in sure the Battle of Mandalore.
I'm surprised no one talked about Bo Katan and how this arc really makes her as a character.
because Bo-Katan kinda is weird, she was never redeemed for her atrocious stuff, it's like they wanted to make her a good guy and forgot she burned a village
@@goodmind4940 true that 😂😂 They could've made her change of heart a bit more believable. I like to think that Maul's takeover was a catalyst for her to step back and see things clearly; the ways of her sister then appealed to her true self more, she was ready to lead Mandalore, maybe not as a pacifist world but somewhere in between. Her transformation wasn't really made clear in the show though.
Loved how Palpatine finally let loose!!! The Sidious vs Maul and Oppress battle was amazing!!!!
Anything Maul is pretty much perfect
I watch this arc like once a month
It was funny that Maul gave some grudging admiration for Asoka in her ruthless fighting and thinking on her feet, letting him fight for his own life as a distraction. He in turn did not not hesitate to escape without looking back. I don't think he has entirely given up on her as an apprentice as he would expect nothing less than the decisions she has made on her own behalf.
Best arc until siege of mandalore, cemented maul as one of the best and one of my favorite characters.
2:26 I can name a few.
Young Justice
Adventure Time
Ben 10
Avatar the Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra
Though not a TV show, Harry Potter is famous for doing this.
When Palps fights Savage and Maul it is really that moment when a lv 100 pro hits the public server.
Once again Thor, you nailed it.
Thanks for continually putting out such great content. Cheers good sir!
Can you do the Obi Wan going undercover as a bounty hunter arc next?
He also took over the crime guilds and even captured Dooku and Grievous at one point.
Maul is more dangerous and intelligent than all of the Jedi on the Council.
Mon Cala arc is underrated. i cried at the end when Lee Char finally became king
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Bullsith, standing by!
Red Five standing by!
Rogue Leader, standing by!
Spot on!
Who's looking forward to the Roast of Rey lol
Hello there
General Kenobi.
General Kenobi
Just watched the first Mandalore arc and my girlfriend and I realized that Satine's attitude becomes hilarious if you see her as a stand-in for Kathleen Kennedy complaining about all the old-school fans
Wish we could have gotten Son of Dathomir adapted to screen. I still believe this was a huge missed opportunity for Clone Wars.
Can you do an individual episode of Clone Wars (ex Ambush) or does it have to be an arc?
In many ways, he was a gifted apprentice...
Younglings Arc
Satine < Vizsla < Maul &/ Savage < Sidious
Where’s the thumbnail from?
This is my favourite arc from the clone wars because it show Darth maul revenge with obi wan
Imo
CW: Season 5 was like the Empire Strikes Back or the Infinity War of the CW series.
(Because it’s much darker than any other season, so many twists, and our heroes fail/pay a price).
And
CW: Season 7 was like the Return of the Jedi or Endgame of the CW series.
(Because it is a satisfying conclusion to a great series)
I have spoken.
You're right about S5 even though it's just the last two arcs(this one and Ahsoka walks away) that fit your description and while S7 is a great conclusion just like Endgame and ROTJ ,it certainly ends on a sadder note than either of them.Endgame's ending is bittersweet but the siege of Mandalore is a tragedy(even though we have the luxury of knowing what happens after it,that doesn't reduce the impact of the whole thing)
Only the strongest shall rule! 👊
I think you should do the boba fett trilogy
Influence, capture, fight he can. But rule, Maul cannot, unlike Darth Sidious.
"Only the strongest shall rule"
-Pre Vizsla
We have all underestimated Darth Maul’s brain power
This arc was an epic chess match.
This arc was my fav
Learn some knowledge he did from Darth Sidious, attempted to copy him he did. Wanted to be a true sith, he do. But tricky and deceptive Sidious is.
Was it really the will of the force that brought Mail and Visla as maul says? I don’t see why the force would really want maul to command a criminal empire or for saying to die.
I absolutely love this arc but I've always hated most of Shades of Reason except for the duel scene idk why
Thor please make a video about Maul and Savage killing Sidious, what would happen next?
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GIVE ME PORKINS!!! 🤣
Can you summarize all the rumored shows in development and give your take on them ?
I did a video similar to that not long ago, but only focused on the confirmed projects Perhaps I can do one talking about just the rumored ones... and there are many.
Ok thanks for your answer
Huge fan
At last I shall have my revenge
Maul i will make sure you stay dead this time
Haha your no match for a sith!
See, I'm the exact opposite: bringing Maul back was the second-dumbest thing Lucas ever did (worst was the Holiday Special).
This whole arc is therefore also idiotic. Fruit of the poisonous tree; flawed foundation, flawed building; insert cliche here.
Okay, I'm the last person to complain about "spoilers" on the Internet. I think constant "spoiler disclaimers" and "spoiler tags" are insufferable. But you're putting spoilers right in your video titles and thumbnails. My wife and I just started watching "The Clone Wars" a few weeks ago and I'm going to have to unsubscribe if I keep seeing things like this whenever I'm on UA-cam.
Where's Rey video?
Maul's a great character. Lucas should never have sliced him in half.
It was Lucas' idea to bring him back. #RespectLucasAgain
I think that's why George Lucas decided to bring him back because he probably regretted killing off the character when his story was just getting started.
I really hope we get a crimson Dawn maul show, I need to see this mastermind organizing gangs against his enemies again!
Animated Version of Me
Can't wait to see you on EFAP my man
If anyone says clone wars is for kids, just show them the zygerrian slaver arc.
Anyone else straight up tired of Maul? 😕🤷🏿♂️
Disney's starting to overuse him...
No, Maul is an amazing character and a lot of people are starting to see that and I won't get tired of seeing him any time soon.
And Ahsoka. Don't get me wrong, I *love* those two characters they're one of my favorites, but I feel like Disney/Lucasfilm is overusing them
Fuck no. People have been sleeping on Maul for years until the Clone Wars finale made people realize just how great he is. Maul is barely in Star Wars, and when he is he's amazing. So just appreciate everything we get with him. He's easily the most compelling villain in the series, on the same level as Vader.
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How bout no? This is “Let’s Talk Some Star Wars”
Hagia Sophia is a church
I was excommunicated. I think your in the wrong place. Try the Minecraft servers.
Maul beats Vader, Tyranus and Kylo by a long shot. They are but ants compared to the Son of Dathomir.
Maul said himself that he can't fight against Vader alone. I'm agree with the other's.
@@sangokus6478 He said he couldn't defeat Vader alone, and that was when he was past his prime and out of practice.
@@dylanemery9855 I thought he was good against the inquisitors but maybe you're right.
@@sangokus6478 He did, but he was still past his prime and out of practice. TCW Maul would've done worse to the Inquisitors.