And one of the madlads that designed the thing never heard Egon Spangler's warning to never cross the streams otherwise it'll result in the destruction of reality (or something like that).
Dont try to fraternize us with your sorceress ways lord Vader. Your devotion to that ancient religion has done nothing to conjure up the stolen data tapes. Or givin you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels hidden fort....( chokes)
The 900 km size estimate for the 2nd death star is a long standing myth; it's actually around 160 km I think according to lore. The 900 km figure was some fans judgement based on the hologram scene in ROTJ that showed the death star in orbit around the Endor moon; it was not supposed to be to scale.
agree the hologram was not to scale. But they showed both the moon and DSII iirc during the rebel attack and the DS was distinguishable in front of the moon. Plus severel comments from ILM employees considering its diameter which was supposed to be about 500 miles and if we used the 160km figure the forest moon would be far to small to sustain an atmosphere and therefor life.
Doubt it. The shielding would be able to handle it. The Executor class super star destroyer supposedly had a regular star destroyer hyperdrive into it and the shield took it no problem
@@a_balloon This is not how it works, you can't compare a major change in the physics of the universe that exist since 1977 that makes the previous six movies illogical with some Boi with plot armour
Indeed! Lieutenant : "I've analyzed their attack, sir ; there IS a danger... shall I have your ship standing by?" Tarkin : "Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances!" Lieutenant (to self, as he walks away) : "Better than overestimating ours! SEE YUH!" And that is when he does exactly what you suggested, lol.
Actually, the death star instantly killing planets makes a lot of sense, but in order to understand why, we have to look at what they are doing. In pretty much all of the shots of the Death Star killing things, we see the laser is hitting the planet, then the planet explodes outward instantly. I think the important thing to rememeber is it's not the laser itself thats (that) explosive, but its actually hitting the core, causing the core to react and expand outwards, engulfing the planet in its own core, which actually makes a lot of sense. In Rogue, they only commense fire on Jedha with a "single reactor ignition" which tells me that it might be the same reaction, but targeted in a different way on a much smaller scale. Like dropping a nuke instead of killing the planet itself
The Death Star has primary exhaust ports on it's poles, the one used to destroy it was a secondary exhaust port, one of 19 similar ports spaced out across 1 hemisphere, and the only one of which could cause the chain reaction that destroyed the station. It was also ray-shielded, which means it could only be attacked by physical projectiles like proton torpedoes.
@@cindydott452 Not without being more vulnerable to exterior fire. Besides, we've already seen that the world of Star Wars operates on a system of "Don't think about the waste heat dispersal aside from the most basic form in giving it a way out that looks cool". An exhaust port that opens out into space would be an easy way to turn a reactor into a bomb when a single, centralized reactor is given just the right jostle while having the justification of "It's ray-shielded, and nobody would be crazy enough to brave the defended trench to get close enough for proton torpedoes to be usable, and it's so small that it's a one-in-a-trillion shot to hit it anyways" at the time of the main design's final draft. That was Galen Erso's sabotage: Convincing the Empire to use a massive, centralized reactor that could be sabotaged in one swift strike instead of many distributed reactors that would need to each be sabotaged.
fun fact, they say kyber crystals power the death star super lazer but in actuality it is powered by its reactor. the kybers do the same thing they do in a lightsaber, they focus and exponetialy increase the energy output. so they do power it to an extent but the initial energy does not come from the kybers themselves
Yes, 120 km diameter (DS1) and 160 diameter (DS2) are correct, according to "The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels" and of course the famous Star Wars P&P RPG from "West End Games".
No 900km ; seccond DS was 320km ; another misconception is Starkiller's diameter 660 km( smaller than 900 km DS2 ??; It's not possible, comparison hologram projector gave information of drastic diameter's difference of DS1 & 2 vs Starkiller). Starkiller is comparable with Martian-size planets 6000 km diameter +- 600 km approx( or 🪐 Saturn's biggest moon)
Back when in the theater- at first glance, I and my friends thought the "new" Death Star was just the remnants of the old one, that hadn't completely blown up before.
there is a fan theory that parts of the original deathstar were reused in the new one, salvaging as much as they could from the first one makes some kinda sense.
Empire: it'll take an army to stop me Luke: [fires torpedo and blows up DS1] [like the shotgun guy in Scarface, blaam to the back and poor Tony Montanna went flying]
The second Death Star does not have a diameter of 900 km, but of 200. It was in Legends where it was said to be 900km, although there were also several contradictory measurements. Sometimes it was said to be as big as the first Death Star, others said its diameter was 900km... Basically between 160km and 900km. However, in the canon it officially measures 200km. It is still considerably larger than its predecessor, but without reaching that exaggerated size. And thank goodness it ended up being changed, because 900km was too much (and even more so considering that it was built in a quarter of the time it took to get the previous one).
One correction: The vulnerability Galen Erso set up was *not* the exhaust port. Galen was in charge of the central reactor design, not minor structural details like that. What he did was deliberately introduce a point of instability into the reactor, such that it could be easily overloaded to induce a runaway chain-reaction, which would subsequently cause it to explode completely. That subtle flaw was all he dared to arrange personally, other than also getting the message about it to the right people. He could only hope that _someone_ would be able to figure out a way to take advantage of that weakness. When the rebellion got hold of the Death Star plans, they had limited time and means at their disposal, but were luckily able to find a direct pathway to the reactor from outside in the form of a small, overlooked, exhaust port. Some _other_ engineer had not bothered to completely protect the port from outside attack. Not an unreasonable decision, really, considering how unlikely it was that anyone would want, much less be able to, target such minor thing. Almost certainly that there were other vectors also available for overloading the reactor, but likely most of them would depend on being _inside_ the Death Star at the time. Only the exhaust port was exploitable through outside attack.
@@starsiegeplayer It was really a clever bit of thinking on the part of the R1 writers. They managed to tie their story into ANH without blatantly contradicting the original dialog (e.g. "I just hope we can find a weakness"). The Rebellion would know what to target-the reactor-but not know how, or even if, they could do so, and it helps to explain how they managed to find such a small vulnerability so quickly. Now if only Disney had put that amount of thought into the rest of their movies....
these wars happened a lot longer ago than that.....it's closer to 10,000 years now..... think McFly think, light from other galaxies takes thousands if not millions of years to reach the Milky Way and Earth.....by the time the light from alpha Centauri reaches us whatever we see there will have taken place thousands of years ago and that is just our galaxy lolz
I remember from CANON canon (before the dark times, before Disney) 120km and 160 km... So, the second 30% bigger in diameter and TWICE in volume. It used the same weapon, but with an advanced reaktor design, so it did not needed the extreme long cooldown-recharge period as the first DS had. It was able to "rapid fire"
@@hernanxx yeah... Darth Mickey made them 30% bigger... because inflation, or something. Megalomania is a common illness among communists... (note: starkiller base is sooo childishly stupid, that I stopped watching the movie when it was introduced, and never after I went anywhere near to the Disney garbage.) To me even 120km was extreme, beyond the limit of believable. I remember the times BEFORE Return of the Jedi and second Death star, when the size was first inflated, that they told the original Death Star was 50 km diameter and a Stardestroyer 1600 meter. Now those are barely acceptable. A Nimitz class nuclear carrier is 340 meter, and the biggest ship ever built, the seawise giant oil tanker is only 460 meters. And those are gigantic! About 500 000 cubic meter! A 200 km Death star would be 42 000 000 000 cubic meter. So, you can build 100 000 of the biggest ship EVER built, but in SPACE. Insane.
@@Halfscreen My thought exactly. But the first one looks so small in comparison it's a little hard to believe something that small could blow up a planet. Eh, sci-fi logic.
I really liked this video. I would like to see more in depth look at this showing how the different decks are arranged inside the Death Star and how the decks change orientation towards the outer layers of the Death Star. You have an interesting way of graphically displaying these objects.
When the Death Star 2 blew up, due to it's massive size supposedly there was so much debris that the Ewoks were all doomed when their planet was hit by the falling debris and shock wave. Similar to asteroid strikes killing a planet.
that is pure nonsense and no one ever said that in any official capacity. The Death Star II was 160 km in diameter; compared to an asteroid, the DSII is mostly hollow; plus its impact speed would be virtually nothing when compared to an asteroid. This is because the DSII just fell out of the 'sky,' as if it was dropped, once it lost power. Asteroids come in hot with massive speeds, as if God himself through a dense rock at a planet
@@Serkant75 Given it's distance they had a few hours before the debris hit the planet. The rebellion made sure to party and than leave by 6 pm local time. At 7 pm local time that was the end of Endor's forest moon. ;)
The thing i love about Star Wars is how science based allot of the show is. Usually they would just tell you "thats our planet killing space ball don't question it"
@@Regard1ess I'm not so sure i agree with the scientific accuracy of the show anymore but i'm more saying that they don't leave things unexplained just because its future technology, they don't shy away from that (also you forgot lightsabers)
"After everything those Clone troopers did for our Republic and Empire, we're just going to discard them? Surely we can't-" Tarkin's honest reaction (the Death Star was completed early):
Fun fact I've read about the Death Star, out of universe. The REAL reason for the trench? With the model they made, there was always a gap between the hemispheres, no matter what they did. The 2 halves refused to completely join, and there was always a gap. So they just decided to say that's intentional, and left it in.
Funny thing about the original Death Star, it didn't have different power settings. It was built to destroy planets. The second Death Star had different settings. That's why it could target Mon Calamari cruisers and blow them up.
@Yasha Kato He's right Disney completely butchered already established Star Wars lore. When they 1st completed the death star they fired it on the planet of despair(different spelling) which is the planet it was orbiting under construction but it was not at full power yet meaning the reactor itself so it didn't completely destroy the planet right away but everybody on it was definitely dead with the 1st shot.
Very little-known fact: The Death Star, in its original imperial conception, was supposed to be very long andcylindrical, like a gun barrel, and they were going to call it "The Death Stick" ... but then the Empire realized that that name was already taken.
WOW! That size comparison blew my mind. I mean I know DS 2 was big, but had no idea it was THAT hugantic! That's pretty much big enough to have it's own gravity and atmosphere; crazy!
Fun fact: the Death Star’s design is based on Mimas, a moon of Saturn, it’s big crater resembles the station’s most powerful weapon “the super laser” The moon has even been given a funny nickname: “the death moon” Because of how close it looks like to the imperial station!
Palpatine: _"Lets save some money and skip those handrails next to the large conduits to keep people from falling down, ok? Its not like anyone is going to throw someone down, right"_
I doubt they would’ve had bids; the project was top-secret during its construction and just used internal and pre-existing partnerships (Kuat and Sienar).
@@LoneTiger Vader: "That's right Emperor Palpatine. These sleazy contractors are always installing unnecessary items just to milk more money from the empire. Makes me want to practice my telekinetic choke hold on them. I'm getting good at it by the way." Palpatine: "I prefer to use my force lightning. The lights are pretty and I like the crackling sound and the ozone smell."
when I was younger, and information wasnt as rampant, i Always thought the death star in return of the Jedi was the result of Luke Skywalker in a new hope. boy was I ignorant. but now looking back, I like that ignorance.
When the fork someone jumped Death Star II from 160km to 900km? Its like people saying the Super Star Destroyer is now 17 km long instead of the original 7km. DS I = 120km, DS II = 160km, SSD = 7km, period.
It really was. The sheer audacity of the idea was - IS! - revolutionary. When I think back to when I was seven, and in utter awe of the ISD capturing the TantiveIV, it was simply beyond my comprehension the magnitude of the Death Star. And, in fairness to my feeble brain and imagination, so it was with Han.
In Edmund Hamilton's "Star Kings" the book, which probably was an inspiration for the Star Wars' creators, there is the "Disruptor" a weapon which could destroy not entire planet, but the entire Universe. The book is written in 1954...Unfortunately, George Lucas is a fabulous movie-maker but doesn't have much fantasy
In the Edmund Hamilton's book Star Kings, the possible inspiration of Star Wars' authors, the "Disruptor" is described. A weapon, which is able to destroy the entire Universe. The book is from 1954.
Why not just build hundreds of star destroyers, each with its own world-ending superlaser. Also, why not have one that you could drop onto a planet and be pulled by AT-ATs.
@@TokyoXtremeI don’t think, at the time, a super laser could be fit into an ISD. Although the tech DID miniaturize rapidly enough that engineers could have at least guessed a 120km/160km sphere wouldn’t be needed to house the weapon for very much longer.
For the folks in the comments; the 900km diameter theory is because of the imperfections in the visual trick they used for the filming of their surfaces. The DS2, in fact, was officially 160 kilometers in diameter. Honestly, how are people STILL falling for that? It takes not ten seconds to go to a wiki and search the damn thing up. As for the kyber crystals, they were a focusing array, not a power source. The Death Star super laser is, in essence, an oversized composite lightsaber emitter designed to destroy planets. Also, I don't like the canon of intentional sabotage. Originally, one Bevel Lemelisk was given the job of actually building a functioning blueprint of the damn thing, because the guy who originally came up with the idea, Raith Sienar, was a political jockey and CEO for the company who made most of the GE's toys. Bevel was given the research material to get such a megastructure in working order. The vent was just a vent, and it requires SEVERAL leaps of logic for the damn 'weakness' to be exploited. Go watch this for a good explanation; ua-cam.com/video/agcRwGDKulw/v-deo.html Bevel was also tortured for his 'failure'. Extensively.
It's kind of funny how almost everything in Star Wars doesn't make sense as far as physics, but the Death Star kind of does. Larger ships and battle stations make more sense because they can pack more power supplies, engines, armor, shielding, and armaments. The sphere maximizes usable volume and minimizes exterior surface area.
Or as Alyx Vance might say, "You can call it the 'Imperial Expeditionary Battle Planetoid'...if you really want to." 1:44 The number "327" has special symbolic significance in George Lucas's movies.
I Still don't know how The Death Star Got Destroyed ? Because the Thermal Exhaust Porter is Suppose Push out all Hot Air and the Death Star is Still moving ! So how the Hell torpedoes can Still Get in the Thermal Exhaust Porter and Still Defy all Basic Logic Do not Tell me Because of the force Is because the plot have to be good guy to win
I would have liked to see where the trash compactors were situated and how they were purged of their refuse contents (and possibly explain how that damn Dianoga creature got into one and nearly drowned Luke).
My understanding of dianogas is they infested sewer systems across the galaxy, finding their way into ship sewage systems and transferring from vessel to vessel.
Ya, kinda. I commented once that I wondered if scavengers salvaged enough material to make 100,000 TIE Defenders and/or thousands of ISD2s, to make Thrawn stop saying “I told you so.”
Halfscreen listen *"Don't be too proud of this technological ''Informative'' Channel you've constructed. Your Expert ability to Inform us, is insignificant, next to the power of the Force!"™* ~Lord Noles~
Still even if there was a deliberate sabotage in the design with the exhaust port the air pushes out not in so when Luke Skywalker shot torpedoes into it and it did a 90 degree angle into a blowing shaft down miles into the core Can’t help but believe that Star Wars is a rather biased franchise
I think the Death Star 2 was actually 200 km in diameter. Well in canon it was. In legends I think it was 900. (I’m not sure. I’m not really that interested in legends universe)
As far as I understand it's not the diameter but the height, width and length of the Death Stars. Also the Star Killer Base was the largest of the three at 660 Km. As far as I understand it. Your numbers are correct.
Death Star 2 was functionally completed, potentially never intended to be a giant globe. It was designed to look bigger than first one and still look incomplete to lure rebel fleet into trap.
it's funny it has the form of a moon outside but inside everyone is standing in an orientation from bottom to top like in any other non-spherical normal spaceship
Well actually, according to cannon the first Death Star was 120 km in diameter, not 160 km. 160 km is the length of the 2nd Death Star according to cannon. The 900 km diameter myth is a misconception because there was no curvature when the executor crashed into the Death Star II (2).
The equatoral trench is a bit larger than depicted in this 3D graphic, as in R1 we see the stern and engine assembly of an ISD MK-I ship inside a large hangar.
8 tributary beam shafts, firing field amplifier, targeting field generator, induction hyperphase generator?!?!?! WOW, who in the hell sits down and makes up all the names for this stuff??
I’d like to see more info on the sublight and hyperdrive engines, specifically the exhaust nozzles. Like, were the nozzles peppered all around the equatorial trench, or did the DS have to rotate in order to go in a different direction? I haven’t seen/heard/read much regarding its locomotion. Actually, this video is the most I’ve seen, thanks to the cutaway view.
1:45 "Also, near the equator is docking bay 327, also known as hanger bay 327, was a docking bay aboard the death star." The Docking Bay known as 327 was a docking bay aboard the death star, but also known as hanger bay 327? no way
Im just designing the superlaser interior for 3D printing. An oldschool AMT/Ertl scale model will be custom built R1-style with blinking warning lights...
What I never understood is that the first death star which was smaller destroyed Alderaan and other planets. And the second Death Star which is was much larger, only destroyed starships.
The one thing I did not see explained is how gravity was generated. In the movies everyone walked upright and it seemed that the Death Star had and up and down reference, yet no technology for this is shown.
In addition, how come all through Star Wars when anyone goes to another planet there's never any problem with the local gravity, every planet seems to have the same gravity as every other one. Is it then reasonable to assume that Tattooine and Coruscant and Alderaan are all the same size and mass and that only on planets of this size and mass can support life?
@@antonsworldofvideos8096 Their sizes are similar and their official gravity ratings only have minor differences in the lore. Outside the movies there is more variation, like Carida which has notably higher gravity and the Imperial training base there would train stronger soldiers as a result
@@Halfscreen Okay, fair enough. In any case, I do appreciate very much the effort you put towards making those videos - especially the X-wing one. It's one of those videos where saying "Great video!" seems so inadequate to properly express its magnificence 🙂
Technically, the death star is just a massive lightsaber igniting for 2 seconds.
Underrated comment
And one of the madlads that designed the thing never heard Egon Spangler's warning to never cross the streams otherwise it'll result in the destruction of reality (or something like that).
That's what she said.
That's what I was thinking
@@cocodojo "one of the madlads that designed the thing never heard Egon Spangler's warning" - *Irrelevant. Lasers are NOT proton streams!...*
Many Bothans died to bring us this video.
You have hited))))
Just so those Bothans did not die in vain, I watched this video twice.
Meh, Bothans are pretty cagey allies.
Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed, the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force!
lol 😂
Dont try to fraternize us with your sorceress ways lord Vader. Your devotion to that ancient religion has done nothing to conjure up the stolen data tapes. Or givin you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels hidden fort....( chokes)
It doesn't hurt to have one though lol Well OK I'll give you that unless its made out of Legos - Vader. Long live the Emperor!
@@joechilds3256
I find your lack of faith, disturbing.
@@miamimatt2010 Tarkin: Enough of this. Vader release him!
The 900 km size estimate for the 2nd death star is a long standing myth; it's actually around 160 km I think according to lore. The 900 km figure was some fans judgement based on the hologram scene in ROTJ that showed the death star in orbit around the Endor moon; it was not supposed to be to scale.
Amusingly enough, if we scale that hologram of DS2 to the size of its reactor chamber, it shows that its diameter is only 50km or something 🙂
Wookiepedia puts the Death Star 2 at 160km
@@aceman67 Oh, it does? Last time I checked (which was... Oh. Before the sequel trilogy) it was 900km. Okay.
@@Jan_Strzelecki If it was 900 km it would be bigger than Starkiller Base, which is 606 km
agree the hologram was not to scale. But they showed both the moon and DSII iirc during the rebel attack and the DS was distinguishable in front of the moon. Plus severel comments from ILM employees considering its diameter which was supposed to be about 500 miles and if we used the 160km figure the forest moon would be far to small to sustain an atmosphere and therefor life.
...and to think, all I need to do to destroy it is hyperspace a drone at it. Thanks Disney. You really understand the lore.
...all that ACTUALLY needed was a flyboy God. Thanks George Lickass. You really understand the role.
Doubt it. The shielding would be able to handle it. The Executor class super star destroyer supposedly had a regular star destroyer hyperdrive into it and the shield took it no problem
@@fujimi715 but the Executioner wasn't at lightspeed.
@@a_balloon This is not how it works, you can't compare a major change in the physics of the universe that exist since 1977 that makes the previous six movies illogical with some Boi with plot armour
When has Star Wars lore ever been consistent?
I'd like to think that the lieutenant that warned Tarkin walked out of the command room *then ran to the nearest hanger bay.*
he ran at warpspeed
Indeed!
Lieutenant : "I've analyzed their attack, sir ; there IS a danger... shall I have your ship standing by?"
Tarkin : "Evacuate? In our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances!"
Lieutenant (to self, as he walks away) : "Better than overestimating ours! SEE YUH!"
And that is when he does exactly what you suggested, lol.
And actually, given the size of the thing, that would be a hell of a marathon...
If I remember correctly, at least in legends, the officer was Chief Bast and he didnt make it.
@@rocketpastsix
Aw, ruin our fun speculations, why don't you? LOL
Actually, the death star instantly killing planets makes a lot of sense, but in order to understand why, we have to look at what they are doing. In pretty much all of the shots of the Death Star killing things, we see the laser is hitting the planet, then the planet explodes outward instantly. I think the important thing to rememeber is it's not the laser itself thats (that) explosive, but its actually hitting the core, causing the core to react and expand outwards, engulfing the planet in its own core, which actually makes a lot of sense. In Rogue, they only commense fire on Jedha with a "single reactor ignition" which tells me that it might be the same reaction, but targeted in a different way on a much smaller scale. Like dropping a nuke instead of killing the planet itself
Sort of like the laser is causing atoms to react on a planetary scale. A super nuke.
@@demonicaxeman7264 yes exactly
Smart
I'll remember that for real life 😂
Keepstar feeds on black holes, if Death Star shoot It with its superlaser that's basically providing the station free energy 😂
The Death Star has primary exhaust ports on it's poles, the one used to destroy it was a secondary exhaust port, one of 19 similar ports spaced out across 1 hemisphere, and the only one of which could cause the chain reaction that destroyed the station. It was also ray-shielded, which means it could only be attacked by physical projectiles like proton torpedoes.
Thanks for the explanation. A have a few people asking about the exhaust point. I didn't know about the secondary exhaust point.
What are the ports exhausting? Diesel fumes?
@@cindydott452 Thermal radiation, actually.
@@kennyholmes5196 wouldn't a series of radiating fins be easier to build and safer than what is essentially a hole leading deep into the station?
@@cindydott452 Not without being more vulnerable to exterior fire. Besides, we've already seen that the world of Star Wars operates on a system of "Don't think about the waste heat dispersal aside from the most basic form in giving it a way out that looks cool". An exhaust port that opens out into space would be an easy way to turn a reactor into a bomb when a single, centralized reactor is given just the right jostle while having the justification of "It's ray-shielded, and nobody would be crazy enough to brave the defended trench to get close enough for proton torpedoes to be usable, and it's so small that it's a one-in-a-trillion shot to hit it anyways" at the time of the main design's final draft. That was Galen Erso's sabotage: Convincing the Empire to use a massive, centralized reactor that could be sabotaged in one swift strike instead of many distributed reactors that would need to each be sabotaged.
fun fact, they say kyber crystals power the death star super lazer but in actuality it is powered by its reactor. the kybers do the same thing they do in a lightsaber, they focus and exponetialy increase the energy output. so they do power it to an extent but the initial energy does not come from the kybers themselves
Thanks for the additional information.
@@Halfscreen If you want more info the power core of the deathstar is a hypermatter reactor.
@@boblupart862 thanks for the info
Focusing energy is not powering; that is like saying a magnifying glass powers light
@@pyropulseIXXI exactly
The official numbers of Star Wars are different concerning the size: 120 km for the first Death Star and 160 km for the second one.
Yes, 120 km diameter (DS1) and 160 diameter (DS2) are correct, according to "The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels" and of course the famous Star Wars P&P RPG from "West End Games".
I totally agree. 120km and 160km
I was gonna say, that's more like it. Where he got 900 km for the second was like, what?!?
@@WhatDayIsItTrumpDay in fact the 900 km figure is out there for many years. I don't know where it came from.
Cut the chatter red 2
The second Death Star isn’t actually 900 km in diameter, that’s a misconception due to there being no curve when the Executor crashes
I wonder if there are like conspiracy theorists that are constantly trying to prove the Death Star was flat
@@KrateFocksKratesCrateofGaming It'd be president if the election hadn't been stolen from it.
It was originally 900km but it was retconned to 160km in 2008
@@KrateFocksKratesCrateofGaming we have proof that bits of it _were_ hollow!
No 900km ; seccond DS was 320km ; another misconception is Starkiller's diameter 660 km( smaller than 900 km DS2 ??; It's not possible, comparison hologram projector gave information of drastic diameter's difference of DS1 & 2 vs Starkiller).
Starkiller is comparable with Martian-size planets 6000 km diameter +- 600 km approx( or 🪐 Saturn's biggest moon)
Back when in the theater- at first glance, I and my friends thought the "new"
Death Star was just the remnants of the old one, that hadn't completely
blown up before.
dudee same I thought that too for the longest time!
I thought this when I was a kid! and as a kid I didn't bother reading the opening crawls.
there is a fan theory that parts of the original deathstar were reused in the new one, salvaging as much as they could from the first one makes some kinda sense.
I don't watch star wars just stared getting into the star lore and i thought that aswell to be honest wondered why it looks like that
Yup, same.
At the very end, we get to see all the components of the Death star, albeit as they fly off in all directions...
" no no, he's got a point."
Rebels: we have hope
(death star appears)
Empire: say hello to my little friend
Empire: We have power!
Rebels: Say hello to _my_ little friend!
Empire: it'll take an army to stop me
Luke: [fires torpedo and blows up DS1] [like the shotgun guy in Scarface, blaam to the back and poor Tony Montanna went flying]
QUANTUMGAMING "Empire: say hello to my little friend" - Luke: Hello! (fires proton torpedoes)
Torpedoes: ...And into the hole we go! Wheeee!
...
@@nicadi2005 LMFAO!!!!
Russel Casse: hello boys, I'M BACK!!!
The second Death Star does not have a diameter of 900 km, but of 200.
It was in Legends where it was said to be 900km, although there were also several contradictory measurements. Sometimes it was said to be as big as the first Death Star, others said its diameter was 900km... Basically between 160km and 900km.
However, in the canon it officially measures 200km. It is still considerably larger than its predecessor, but without reaching that exaggerated size. And thank goodness it ended up being changed, because 900km was too much (and even more so considering that it was built in a quarter of the time it took to get the previous one).
One correction: The vulnerability Galen Erso set up was *not* the exhaust port. Galen was in charge of the central reactor design, not minor structural details like that.
What he did was deliberately introduce a point of instability into the reactor, such that it could be easily overloaded to induce a runaway chain-reaction, which would subsequently cause it to explode completely.
That subtle flaw was all he dared to arrange personally, other than also getting the message about it to the right people. He could only hope that _someone_ would be able to figure out a way to take advantage of that weakness.
When the rebellion got hold of the Death Star plans, they had limited time and means at their disposal, but were luckily able to find a direct pathway to the reactor from outside in the form of a small, overlooked, exhaust port. Some _other_ engineer had not bothered to completely protect the port from outside attack. Not an unreasonable decision, really, considering how unlikely it was that anyone would want, much less be able to, target such minor thing.
Almost certainly that there were other vectors also available for overloading the reactor, but likely most of them would depend on being _inside_ the Death Star at the time. Only the exhaust port was exploitable through outside attack.
Just so. I don't know why people keep saying he designed the exhaust port.
@@starsiegeplayer It was really a clever bit of thinking on the part of the R1 writers. They managed to tie their story into ANH without blatantly contradicting the original dialog (e.g. "I just hope we can find a weakness"). The Rebellion would know what to target-the reactor-but not know how, or even if, they could do so, and it helps to explain how they managed to find such a small vulnerability so quickly.
Now if only Disney had put that amount of thought into the rest of their movies....
@@davidh.4944 Rey could have sent a drone from the other side of the Galaxy to Holdo Maneuver it and the Galaxy would be saved
@@captnwinkle just stop talking please
Bevil Limilisk is the Death Star designer, not Galen Erso.
Dam..almost a hundred years later and I just learned the two Death Stars were different sizes
LOL
P.S. I "Liked" your comment.
just like fastfood portions. Large death star and extra large death star. : D
"It's not the size that counts, it's how you use it."
these wars happened a lot longer ago than that.....it's closer to 10,000 years now.....
think McFly think, light from other galaxies takes thousands if not millions of years to reach the Milky Way and Earth.....by the time the light from alpha Centauri reaches us whatever we see there will have taken place thousands of years ago and that is just our galaxy lolz
@@Red_Lanterns_Rage True that.
Second Death Star wasn't 900, no matter if the executor crash scene is taken as reference, it was not.
Yea it's only 160 km. The star killer base is 900 km
I remember from CANON canon (before the dark times, before Disney) 120km and 160 km... So, the second 30% bigger in diameter and TWICE in volume. It used the same weapon, but with an advanced reaktor design, so it did not needed the extreme long cooldown-recharge period as the first DS had. It was able to "rapid fire"
@@meleardil Exactly, and I liked those measures. There's no need for them to be extremely big. Now in canon they are 160 - 200I think.
@@hernanxx yeah... Darth Mickey made them 30% bigger... because inflation, or something. Megalomania is a common illness among communists... (note: starkiller base is sooo childishly stupid, that I stopped watching the movie when it was introduced, and never after I went anywhere near to the Disney garbage.)
To me even 120km was extreme, beyond the limit of believable.
I remember the times BEFORE Return of the Jedi and second Death star, when the size was first inflated, that they told the original Death Star was 50 km diameter and a Stardestroyer 1600 meter. Now those are barely acceptable.
A Nimitz class nuclear carrier is 340 meter, and the biggest ship ever built, the seawise giant oil tanker is only 460 meters. And those are gigantic! About 500 000 cubic meter!
A 200 km Death star would be 42 000 000 000 cubic meter.
So, you can build 100 000 of the biggest ship EVER built, but in SPACE. Insane.
@@krishnarjunar2724 actually it was around 600km
Ah, so that's how big they were compared to our moon. Thanks for that!
No problem! When they said it's moon size, I was assuming it's based the same size as the moon.
@@Halfscreen My thought exactly. But the first one looks so small in comparison it's a little hard to believe something that small could blow up a planet. Eh, sci-fi logic.
@@Okiedog1 I think that why it's called Science Fiction and not Science Fact.
That's no Moon, it's a space station
@@Okiedog1 John wick and Viggos disagrees
I really liked this video. I would like to see more in depth look at this showing how the different decks are arranged inside the Death Star and how the decks change orientation towards the outer layers of the Death Star. You have an interesting way of graphically displaying these objects.
When the Death Star 2 blew up, due to it's massive size supposedly there was so much debris that the Ewoks were all doomed when their planet was hit by the falling debris and shock wave. Similar to asteroid strikes killing a planet.
How did they throw a party afterwards
that is pure nonsense and no one ever said that in any official capacity. The Death Star II was 160 km in diameter; compared to an asteroid, the DSII is mostly hollow; plus its impact speed would be virtually nothing when compared to an asteroid. This is because the DSII just fell out of the 'sky,' as if it was dropped, once it lost power. Asteroids come in hot with massive speeds, as if God himself through a dense rock at a planet
@@Serkant75 Given it's distance they had a few hours before the debris hit the planet. The rebellion made sure to party and than leave by 6 pm local time. At 7 pm local time that was the end of Endor's forest moon. ;)
@@zombieshoot4318 lmao sounds about right.
There wasn't much debris from DSII, like the first one it completely vaporized. Hypermatter reactor after all.
The thing i love about Star Wars is how science based allot of the show is. Usually they would just tell you "thats our planet killing space ball don't question it"
Last part sounds very much like the MO of the Sequel Trilogy. :P
COMMENCE OPPERATION.........VAC-U-SUCK!
@@Regard1ess I'm not so sure i agree with the scientific accuracy of the show anymore but i'm more saying that they don't leave things unexplained just because its future technology, they don't shy away from that (also you forgot lightsabers)
Star Wars veers very far from established science. It's pretty much as fantastical as Lord of the Rings.
@@sciencecompliance235 Indeed
"After everything those Clone troopers did for our Republic and Empire, we're just going to discard them? Surely we can't-"
Tarkin's honest reaction (the Death Star was completed early):
Fun fact I've read about the Death Star, out of universe. The REAL reason for the trench? With the model they made, there was always a gap between the hemispheres, no matter what they did. The 2 halves refused to completely join, and there was always a gap. So they just decided to say that's intentional, and left it in.
That and George had been watching "The Dambusters".
Funny thing about the original Death Star, it didn't have different power settings. It was built to destroy planets. The second Death Star had different settings. That's why it could target Mon Calamari cruisers and blow them up.
Rogue One would like a word with you about this statement.
@@jinta87 I'm talking Lucas Star Wars, not Disney.
@Yasha Kato He's right Disney completely butchered already established Star Wars lore. When they 1st completed the death star they fired it on the planet of despair(different spelling) which is the planet it was orbiting under construction but it was not at full power yet meaning the reactor itself so it didn't completely destroy the planet right away but everybody on it was definitely dead with the 1st shot.
The second Death Star is NOT that much bigger. That size is a myth based on the executor crash scene but the canon size is the same as the first
This was all designed and manufactured by Ikea. The original Death Star was never 100% completed because of a missing fastener.
1:45 Hanger bay 327, that's were they store imperial coats.
Very little-known fact: The Death Star, in its original imperial conception, was supposed to be very long andcylindrical, like a gun barrel, and they were going to call it "The Death Stick" ...
but then the Empire realized that that name was already taken.
WOW! That size comparison blew my mind. I mean I know DS 2 was big, but had no idea it was THAT hugantic! That's pretty much big enough to have it's own gravity and atmosphere; crazy!
Glad to give you some references at least.
DS2 was only 160km; DS 1 was 100 km
@@pyropulseIXXI 120km* for DS 1
Fun fact: the Death Star’s design is based on Mimas, a moon of Saturn, it’s big crater resembles the station’s most powerful weapon “the super laser”
The moon has even been given a funny nickname: “the death moon”
Because of how close it looks like to the imperial station!
The Death Star's real weakness is it was BUILT BY THE LOWEST BIDDER. he he he
Palpatine: _"Lets save some money and skip those handrails next to the large conduits to keep people from falling down, ok? Its not like anyone is going to throw someone down, right"_
I doubt they would’ve had bids; the project was top-secret during its construction and just used internal and pre-existing partnerships (Kuat and Sienar).
Should i say thank you for serving? ;)
@@LoneTiger Vader: "That's right Emperor Palpatine. These sleazy contractors are always installing unnecessary items just to milk more money from the empire. Makes me want to practice my telekinetic choke hold on them. I'm getting good at it by the way."
Palpatine: "I prefer to use my force lightning. The lights are pretty and I like the crackling sound and the ozone smell."
Darn that Corporate Sector anyway!
when I was younger, and information wasnt as rampant, i Always thought the death star in return of the Jedi was the result of Luke Skywalker in a new hope. boy was I ignorant. but now looking back, I like that ignorance.
Wouldn't it be easier to actually take a real small moon and mount the weaponry and engines on it?
This video is very helpful for my project. Thanks !
No problem
Thanks for the video. I have acquired 30 million metric tons of durasteel already. I will put your video to great use.
Wasn't DSI 120km in diameter and DSII 160km?
Death Star: *surrounded by star destroyers*
Death Star: *nervously sweats*
When the fork someone jumped Death Star II from 160km to 900km? Its like people saying the Super Star Destroyer is now 17 km long instead of the original 7km.
DS I = 120km, DS II = 160km, SSD = 7km, period.
Confused- thermal exhaust port is located on the north pole of the diagram at 5:20- was it not the main equatorial trench Luke flew down then?
No, the equatorial trench is much larger.
It's right below the main port
I mean it sounds dumb to say, but I love how the DS is just a giant reactor with a gun strapped to it, with a space station built around it.
1:04 swear you just said that exact same thing
The Death Star was one of the most important sci-fi ideas in film history.
It really was. The sheer audacity of the idea was - IS! - revolutionary.
When I think back to when I was seven, and in utter awe of the ISD capturing the TantiveIV, it was simply beyond my comprehension the magnitude of the Death Star. And, in fairness to my feeble brain and imagination, so it was with Han.
In Edmund Hamilton's "Star Kings" the book, which probably was an inspiration for the Star Wars' creators, there is the "Disruptor" a weapon which could destroy not entire planet, but the entire Universe. The book is written in 1954...Unfortunately, George Lucas is a fabulous movie-maker but doesn't have much fantasy
In the Edmund Hamilton's book Star Kings, the possible inspiration of Star Wars' authors, the "Disruptor" is described. A weapon, which is able to destroy the entire Universe. The book is from 1954.
"That's no moon, turn the ship around".
your video is so helpful and inspiring!
Glad you think so!
1:13
Seeing the size of the 2nd one makes me wonder why they didnt just make 3 or 4 or maybe even 10 smaller death stars instead...
💰💰💰
Why not just build hundreds of star destroyers, each with its own world-ending superlaser. Also, why not have one that you could drop onto a planet and be pulled by AT-ATs.
@@TokyoXtreme why not make them fly now too?
Thrawn told the emperor building a massive super weapon like the deathstar was a waste, that building a fleet of small capital ships would be better.
@@TokyoXtremeI don’t think, at the time, a super laser could be fit into an ISD. Although the tech DID miniaturize rapidly enough that engineers could have at least guessed a 120km/160km sphere wouldn’t be needed to house the weapon for very much longer.
For the folks in the comments; the 900km diameter theory is because of the imperfections in the visual trick they used for the filming of their surfaces. The DS2, in fact, was officially 160 kilometers in diameter. Honestly, how are people STILL falling for that? It takes not ten seconds to go to a wiki and search the damn thing up.
As for the kyber crystals, they were a focusing array, not a power source. The Death Star super laser is, in essence, an oversized composite lightsaber emitter designed to destroy planets.
Also, I don't like the canon of intentional sabotage. Originally, one Bevel Lemelisk was given the job of actually building a functioning blueprint of the damn thing, because the guy who originally came up with the idea, Raith Sienar, was a political jockey and CEO for the company who made most of the GE's toys. Bevel was given the research material to get such a megastructure in working order.
The vent was just a vent, and it requires SEVERAL leaps of logic for the damn 'weakness' to be exploited. Go watch this for a good explanation; ua-cam.com/video/agcRwGDKulw/v-deo.html
Bevel was also tortured for his 'failure'. Extensively.
FYI - the Death Star II was only a bit larger than the original. It increased from 160km to 200km in diameter.
Very interesting, thank you for putting this together. 🙏😁👍
Glad you enjoyed it
It's kind of funny how almost everything in Star Wars doesn't make sense as far as physics, but the Death Star kind of does. Larger ships and battle stations make more sense because they can pack more power supplies, engines, armor, shielding, and armaments. The sphere maximizes usable volume and minimizes exterior surface area.
the first deathstar ist 160 km in diameter, and the second 200 km.... the Starkiller Base (Ilum) is 660 km. That are canon infos.
How far from the hangar bay was the cell block where Leia was being held? Also how far did Ben have to travel to get to the tractor beam terminal?
Or as Alyx Vance might say, "You can call it the 'Imperial Expeditionary Battle Planetoid'...if you really want to."
1:44 The number "327" has special symbolic significance in George Lucas's movies.
I watched this to build a Death Star in Minecraft awesome job! 👍
I was watching that too. He did a good job on his animation.
Really? How many blocks in diameter was your build?
The Death Star is amazing, you are awesome !!
Thanks!
Nicely done animation.
I Still don't know how The Death Star Got Destroyed ?
Because the Thermal Exhaust Porter is Suppose Push out all Hot Air and the Death Star is Still moving !
So how the Hell torpedoes can Still Get in the Thermal Exhaust Porter and Still Defy all Basic Logic
Do not Tell me Because of the force
Is because the plot have to be good guy to win
Yeah...it never made any sense to me.
This is very cool, well done
Thanks!😁
I would have liked to see where the trash compactors were situated and how they were purged of their refuse contents (and possibly explain how that damn Dianoga creature got into one and nearly drowned Luke).
My understanding of dianogas is they infested sewer systems across the galaxy, finding their way into ship sewage systems and transferring from vessel to vessel.
Apparently the Empire keeps the Dianogas in the trash compactors to help breakdown organic waste.
@@3Rayfire Wouldn't go in there for a while if I was you ... Vader was in there for an hour reading the _Imperial News_
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Oh Noooo. Thanks for the heads up.
@Nature and Physics Vader has waste processing built into his legs, essentially he has a Porta potty in his pants.
It also features a canteen that sells pastas, but still has the wet tray problem.
Epcot Center's Spaceship Earth geodesic sphere would be close in size to a 1:18 scaled DS 1.
Did anyone else at the time think the second death star was the remains of the original one?
Ya, kinda. I commented once that I wondered if scavengers salvaged enough material to make 100,000 TIE Defenders and/or thousands of ISD2s, to make Thrawn stop saying “I told you so.”
5:58 lol german flak18 xd
Good explanation.
Glad you liked it
Halfscreen listen *"Don't be too proud of this technological ''Informative'' Channel you've constructed. Your Expert ability to Inform us, is insignificant, next to the power of the Force!"™* ~Lord Noles~
Actually, these technical jargons on these Star Wars websites can be inconsistent at time, hence errors.
@@Halfscreen Sigh?? lol I'm Shocked You would say that Senator Palpatine.
@@lovebbqnoles367 Blame it on text to speech. 😁
@@Halfscreen SMH.
Why is the tractor beam assembly depicted as bigger than the super laser? I'd think the super laser would be the largest subsystem on the death star.
Thanks for this
My pleasure!
Woah.. so the death Star is actually just a large circular lightsaber 😬
The original Death Star design was conceived by Poggle The Lesser and the Seperatists Council.
It was designed by Imperial scientists at the Maw Instalation.
I think the interior of a Death Star would be more like a planet, in concentric layers...
I always thought Death Star 1 was the size of Earth's moon, and Death Star 2 was 2x as large. But to be fair, this makes a lot more sense.
Still even if there was a deliberate sabotage in the design with the exhaust port the air pushes out not in so when Luke Skywalker shot torpedoes into it and it did a 90 degree angle into a blowing shaft down miles into the core
Can’t help but believe that Star Wars is a rather biased franchise
I think the Death Star 2 was actually 200 km in diameter.
Well in canon it was. In legends I think it was 900. (I’m not sure. I’m not really that interested in legends universe)
I have to double check.
@@Halfscreen you don’t need to if you want.
The Death Star 2 was 200km in diameter.
@@admiralkoerner2737 in legends
The numbers for the Death Stars are completely wrong, the First Death Star had a diameter of 120 Km, the Second 160 km.
As far as I understand it's not the diameter but the height, width and length of the Death Stars. Also the Star Killer Base was the largest of the three at 660 Km. As far as I understand it. Your numbers are correct.
@@delikonthree Star Killer Base does not exist, that is Disney, not Star Wars.
Death Star 2 was functionally completed, potentially never intended to be a giant globe. It was designed to look bigger than first one and still look incomplete to lure rebel fleet into trap.
Pretty Cool Video .
Thanks!
it's funny it has the form of a moon outside but inside everyone is standing in an orientation from bottom to top like in any other non-spherical normal spaceship
I always thought the Trench ran around the equator. But now i know it ran along a meridian. Learn something new every day
In Rouge One the exhaust port was on the equator unless I'm mistaken.
5% the size of the moon only have the power of our normal nuke.
Well actually, according to cannon the first Death Star was 120 km in diameter, not 160 km. 160 km is the length of the 2nd Death Star according to cannon. The 900 km diameter myth is a misconception because there was no curvature when the executor crashed into the Death Star II (2).
The equatoral trench is a bit larger than depicted in this 3D graphic, as in R1 we see the stern and engine assembly of an ISD MK-I ship inside a large hangar.
8 tributary beam shafts, firing field amplifier, targeting field generator, induction hyperphase generator?!?!?!
WOW, who in the hell sits down and makes up all the names for this stuff??
I’d like to see more info on the sublight and hyperdrive engines, specifically the exhaust nozzles. Like, were the nozzles peppered all around the equatorial trench, or did the DS have to rotate in order to go in a different direction?
I haven’t seen/heard/read much regarding its locomotion. Actually, this video is the most I’ve seen, thanks to the cutaway view.
I may do a more detail video on the death star if i have the time.
Thanks! And I really appreciate the work you do - your channel is a really good resource, and I’m on it quite a lot.
Has gunners not been exposed on some kind of radiation?
1:45 "Also, near the equator is docking bay 327, also known as hanger bay 327, was a docking bay aboard the death star."
The Docking Bay known as 327 was a docking bay aboard the death star, but also known as hanger bay 327? no way
Brilliant.
Im just designing the superlaser interior for 3D printing. An oldschool AMT/Ertl scale model will be custom built R1-style with blinking warning lights...
Nice!
Death Star I was 120 km in diameter, Death Star II was 160 km in diameter.
@0:39 - The Emperor said it was fully armed and operational!!!
You forgot the amplification chambers, observation dome, and convergence centers.
you forgot to mention how the deathstar is able to move from one place to another.
What I never understood is that the first death star which was smaller destroyed Alderaan and other planets. And the second Death Star which is was much larger, only destroyed starships.
Let’s make sure we engineer out that 2m exhaust port entrance to the reactor, and replace it with a Millennium Falcon-sized corridor.
Earlier Death Star super-laser designs were meant to use phased array retro-proto-turbo-encabulators
2:51 So where's the site of the exhaust port?
Would love to see cut aways of the USS Enterprise. NX-01, Ncc1701, 1701-A, B, C, D E and J
Do you know where I can find good information regarding cross-section for the USS Enterprise?
The one thing I did not see explained is how gravity was generated. In the movies everyone walked upright and it seemed that the Death Star had and up and down reference, yet no technology for this is shown.
Almost most sci-fi don't explain how gravity work in space. They leave it up to the audience to decide.
The same reason people are able to walk on the Millennium Falcon or a Correllian Corvette; Made up science gravity
Or the fact that everything is right side up while in space there is no right side up.
In addition, how come all through Star Wars when anyone goes to another planet there's never any problem with the local gravity, every planet seems to have the same gravity as every other one. Is it then reasonable to assume that Tattooine and Coruscant and Alderaan are all the same size and mass and that only on planets of this size and mass can support life?
@@antonsworldofvideos8096 Their sizes are similar and their official gravity ratings only have minor differences in the lore. Outside the movies there is more variation, like Carida which has notably higher gravity and the Imperial training base there would train stronger soldiers as a result
Where did the stormtroopers from the Death Star take their vacation?
All over the galaxy
As noted in the comments, the 900km figure is incorrect. Most of the footage supports the 120/160km size, respectively.
Yeah. It was a typo on my part, unfortunately, I can't change it once it's uploaded.
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