Why I've Been HATING Filmmaking (& You Probably Do Too...)
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Excited for 2024, LETS GET IT!
Totally agree, but I don't get into the BTS.... I am enthralled with the Figuring Out instead. The internal process of "how can I get that Look-Vibe/Practical VFX in camera? And IF I get asked, "How'd you get THAT?!?" , then I would consider that.
Yep...Go 2024 Go!
2023 was finding the last guy left you nothing but an empty roll after you rushed in and sat down.
The landscape of filmmaking is vastly different from when I started. The barrier of entry is now in people’s pocket. Everything is now, mostly, content. Moving images with very little story for dopamine hits is probably the biggest hit to filmmaking and art as a whole.
One of the many reason I personally dropped the videographer label. It was no longer a fulfilling role.
Exactly, as long as you footage looks good and creates a vibe people seem to care less about the story telling aspect
Hits home that does. Perfectly described how I felt. It's time for me to bow out sadly. But I had a great run and met some incredible people.
Then u were never a filmmaker
Go crew on a film set. It's easy to have these feelings when you're working on a team of yourself for yourself. When you are surrounded with a team of people achieving one goal and everyone else has a different role, it slowly starts taking your mindset outside of yourself or your content or comparing yourself to one creative.
Its hard to hear someone say that no-one cares about the content anymore, when you literallyshoot music videos with no content. I love YC, been rocking with him for years, but its his responsibility to make people feel something from his work, whether good or bad. The soup might be too salty for some and perfect for others but at least you seasoned it.
💯🔥
You just spoke about a difficult reality. I have been discouraged about my channel, but realized that I was trying to get validation from what you refer to as the "vanity metrics". My channel suffers from two things, my anxiety about being in front of the camera, and the need for me to be mindful about story telling. I tend to just shoot video as we are out on our adventures, but don't have a specific story line in mind. Thinking I can create the story in edit.... WRONG. Now I am trying to change my mindset to come up with the story first, then film it.
Perhaps you might consider that this crazy online creator life still allows you to have date night with the wife, time for the kids, while working to pay the bills in the area that you enjoy. Certainly not every project is going to challenge you to use all your skills and enthusiasm daily, but it's a marathon not a sprint , you are a young man you got lots of time for the valleys and the summits, so keep on keeping on. As long as your family comes first I trust you will find your feet are on the path you need them to be.
Ohohoho man, I am SO with you on this.
I’ve just moved in to making stuff for fun, I don’t want to share the BTS for all the stuff i create.
Keep doing you 🫡
Peter :((
I 100% agree with you on this one. I have not touched my camera or gear for at least the last 9mths. I have so many things I would like to do. But my main problem is the team I used to have around me until I was over it and moved on from them quietly. Got tired of hearing my ideas were too big or would cost a lot of money and that's all cap cause I would put up 100% of the money for all the projects we did together.
The real problem was that they were more into doing things for likes and views and not the art of filmmaking. and to piggyback on something you said in the video ppl are only interested in the BTS's because they do not want to challenge themself when it comes to figuring something out or learning how to create it themself.
This ❗️
That’s such an unfortunate outcome to what should be a seemingly exciting experience. Well, if you’re interesting in creating just for the beautiful sake of creating, is there a way I can get in contact with you? I also find the “finding a good team” thing to be a different kind of challenge and am at that point of just doing art because I want to create some stuff and enjoy the process.
Really felt this man. I get so tired of seeing the same things over and over on Social. Just people doing the trends saying they are a "filmmaker." There are some really creative awesome people on social but 90% is copying a trend acting like they invented it. Online Filmmaking is mega lame FR.
Fully agree 👍🏾
as for me, im just burned out w the whole thing from services. this is why im doing something for me now which is movies and movies only.
Creative hustles aren’t as romantic as social media often portrays it to be and they aren’t for everyone… including myself (for the most part):
After spending a couple years as a freelance video editor, I made the switch to chase my passion in 3D art. Very quickly, I realized I didn’t want money or client relationships to have almost anything to do with my creative outlet anymore. Money damaged my relationship with video editing almost permanently, and I love 3D too much to let that happen. I still spend a lot of time growing my online following, but I have a normal 9-5 job and keep art for myself now. I prefer it this way.
Sure I’m not as IG famous and rich as I maybe could be. But in general, I’m much happier. And that’s a success in my book. Plus, nobody is telling me what to do with my creativity! I personally needed that freedom. So for anyone wondering about pursing these creative passions, just be honest with yourself if the online hustle is something you really want to do FULL TIME. Part time? Why not. Full time? Overtime? It may not be what you want in life and that’s okay.
“Needing to make money is an easy way to start hating filmmaking”😭 that is me to a t rn I’m stuck in a wedding filmmaking cycle because that’s the work I’m getting the most of but I actually hate it. It’s like im constantly buried in projects that I don’t want to do
thank you for your honesty. Im excited to get back to having fun and not worrying about always documenting and then being concerned with numbers, comments views ect. although we have to make a living we have to sometime slow down and just create the projects that energize us and make us happy and keep us in a position of joy:)
What type of filmmaking projects would you want to do if weddings didn’t take up your time? I’m asking because I’m into scriptwriting and get curious about filmmakers who want to branch out into shorts.
I think we should value the process more than the product. It’s about the journey of it all.
After I watched beyonce movie about the process I was so intrigued! And I was so inspired! And I felt it, there was emotion and etc. BTS is documenting. So there is still a level of story to it.
You hit it on the head. It's a very narrow road between love of your craft and burnout and its easy to start feeling like this and not know why
What a depressing video to come across right when I am getting back into film and building my production company! LOL! But no, I get you man, and I really do think it all depends on perspective. I've realized im okay with doing things that have nothing to do with my own creative vision. That ofc makes money. But honestly, I feel a lot of burnout things come from social media. Like youtube and all that simply bc less work gives more numbers. Art doesnt get numbers unless its famous music, or a random one-off hit here and there. So I get it man. But i think theres still a lot of room in the REAL filmmaking industry outside of social media for us to thrive. Documentaries, corporate work, animation work, photography, live event, coverage, news, etc. There's definitely a lot of room for us still. This just isn't the niche for views on youtube- its as simple as that tbh. It sucks but its true. Its held be up for a while, not knowing what niche to tackle on youtube bc its hard to get an edge in something while you can also enjoy it as a creative filmmaker.
Its an interesting conflict to be a Filmmaker on youtube. Because we are supposed to be the best at what "this" is as a whole. But all these other people are making videos about their other hobbies or other topics, their videos arenyt really about videos. Thats the struggle a lot of social media based filmmakers will come across or already come across. this niche simply doesnt make that much money or views, and our main hobby and career IS the content creation itself. Most people come here and content creation is the secondary skill. They have something else they want to share. So it leaves us in a difficult place of... how do we blend what we love into a different niche that can fullfill us and still make us enoguh money to live?
Hopefully this makes sense but its a huge mental struggle ive had for years and is a big reason I havent been able to post on youtube channels for years. There is very little confidence in anythin actually performing well even long term with the niches I am interested in. (film, travel, EVs, etc)... But what i know for sure is that none of us will get anywhere without constantly trying and trying and trying. New things left and right. Keep going. never give up. We can make it happen.
Beautiful said! Keep creating content you love as well
@@jajasmike7818 thank you ❤️🩹👊
I feel you on making money on project you hate. As I told you before I stop working on Music Video's over 15 years ago, cause I were tired of making money shooting music video and the artist suck and his so-called music sucked as well. Besides I was getting older and the whole music industry change and anyone that put Lil in front of their name was a rapper. So I went back to working with real artist that played instruments and read music, although I wasn't making that much, it was a relief of working with real artist. I get ask all the time to shot somebody music video, and I don't hesitate to say NO! cause I know I'll feel dirty for doing it. Now I try to work on project with a purpose and value.
I do a bit of mixed content creation (filmmaking, client work, streaming) and this video really touched on why I haven't been motivated to make anything or be creative. Outside of life stuff and my primary job, there isn't enough time in the day, and the focus on the vanity metrics is hard to escape. You put that feeling into words and I appreciate you for it! Definitely giving me new hope for what I plan to do in 2024: creating and publishing with intent.
I have done this year so many video content for my clients that now I dont have energy to do “end of year highlight video” 😄
Love the videos bro every video is like a chapter or a page in a book
thank you bro I needed this, today I just hated some stuff im doing because the money stuff is cool and all, but the things I do for "love" or for a friend, are not even panning out in terms of recognition and respect from these none paying clients. So ive come to an end to that chapter, and the love things I do from now on are going to be my projects like my films and scripts I have been back seating all this time.
Man, you're my best inspiration - the content that you create for this channel is dope, great in its simplicity and possibility to recreate - your ideas how to do something are just pure gold. If you would sell music video breakdowns, I'd buy it, like packages of breakdowns of your mv projects (shit, you could just get some *affordable lights* and squeeze out all creative possibilities with buidling set, just the "regular" stuff that you do). I can bet a lot of other viewers would also - that's nearly half a million people here that most likely feel and are here for the same. Always slaying those music videos like a boss with whatever you have at hand and not always in need to spend fortunes on it. I am here for this stuff. You're way smarter than me and most here, I'd be curious if you had ever considered that and what is your opinion on that? peace, you the 🐐
Thank you for being honest, and helping me and others to think about what we do for money and what we do for love, and if there is any connection between the two.
I resonate soo much with this bro. Thank you for putting it out, it's truly encouraging and motivating
Creative Ryan makes videos like this all the time. Thanks for sharing 💯
I felt this! My boy always breaks it down & makes it relatable 🔥
YC, I’ve been keeping up with you for years now and I have to say that your creativity inspired me way back and allowed me to step up my filmmaking. We appreciate your transparency brother. Keep inspiring us man. You’re doing great!
The transition into the story blocks ad was seamless as hell lol that quote was deep.
You speak what's on my mind being in this filmmaking business. It's very helpful that someone out here speaks out about what has been bothering me. I'll be sharing this with all the people I work with to get the spark going again for them too. To me, a video/film that looks good is easy; that's why I've been focusing on storytelling, trying to be better at it day by day. I appreciate the video!
I can really relate. I’v been wanting to pursue filmmaking as a career since I was 14 years old. But now I just graduated film school and I need to find clients in order to make money, I actually don’t want to. The whole internet/corporate filmmaking world is so uninspiring to me. Sometimes I am even thinking about a career switch. I miss those good old days when I was so inspired to make all kinds of passion projects just because I loved filmmaking.
Have you tried looking into doing narrative commercial work? I think that would be a great place to do shorter projects and flex creativity while telling a story without getting too overwhelmed
So relatable!!! I was working as a videographer for a company, earning a decent living and everything was ok until I realised the job was so consuming I couldn’t do my personal creative projects that I wanted to pursue outside of work. Balancing internet filmmaking work and life is such a difficult thing.
The message in this video resonated with me a lot. The days only seem to get shorter. Trying to squeeze it all in day and day out can be challenging, especially if you have a wife and kids. I stopped having fun as a photographer when people wanted to pay me to do it. I really enjoy it as a hobby and felt that if I did it long enough, I would master it to the point where I wouldn't feel intimidated by paid projects.
Deeffiinnnetly being feeling the same for a while. I'll say about 4/5 years now, but 4/5 years ago, it was a very, very small feeling & didn't fully understand it. It grew over time & you said I literally STOPPED (dissolved my business), not just "film making" but photography, which is where I started... To be honest, it's creativity on a whole! I started to HATE the online/BTS aspect of it but the project's I look back on that make me Remember the feeling of fulfilment are the project's with the lowest views & most ppl don't even know it exsists but I love them... I say all that to say THANK YOU for making this & being toying with going back/ being creative JUST to be creative or with a specific intention usually outside of me! Thank you for making me feel seen & making my journey back understandable for my own mind!!!! 😊😊
INTENTION is always the goal. I remember watching you when you had 20k subs... Congrats
A lot of things in this world are unsustainable.. BALANCE is key ! Keep going people. Do what you love !
100% agree with everything you said. I’m just starting to get back into it for fun and it’s actually enjoyable again
YCimaging at it AGAIN! Thanks boss fire vid and very relatable
Yup. Felt this. I haven’t shot a video for a client in 6 months. No work in the pipeline in my industry as they prefer to go in-house with iPhones and DJI gimbals then edit for free in CapCut.
I don’t really care to shoot much more video.
I’m diving into film photography now for myself. If someone wants me to shoot for them, I will but right now I gotta concentrate on me.
Your videos are great fun. tHanks for posting.....Happy 3rd day of Christmas!
Thanks for sharing your experience. For me, I will never be a professional film maker but aspire to learn the creative process and apply it to making content for myself first and knowing that it will be something I can leave behind to say that I was here in this big world in an expressive way.
Really good points. I've experienced this feeling on all levels of this industry tho. It's not "better" on a film set or for some award winning director. There's even more drama and egos to deal with (and trauma sometimes). And then there's the insane pace people consume content these days. Its exhausting. Sometimes i want to give up on filmmaking altogether. Othertimes, its the only thing i know how to do. Find your balance ⚖️ it's how I've gotten thru some bad times.
The point about looking for replaceable content hits! There is a balance that comes with seeing how things are made, but like you said we don't want to forget or depreciate the final product.
“the things that get the most views aren’t usually the things that are the best”, this is fax because i’ve dropped work that I thought would bang and even look back on and know it’s so slept on, and stuff that I put out that I thought was just ‘ok’ ended up popping off
Man I've been with you for like 4 years now and I have to start making music videos for my band. I know that no one else is going to do it if I don't want to. I'm thankful for all the advice you give. I just wish you were near Kansas City and were down to do some music videos for a Vampire metal band.
I totally understand and I get it, I'm feeling the same way you just put it in words for me 🙏🏽💪🏾
100 agree man. I fell into a creative hole as a photographer. My solution was to learn film making and now I am making money from film as well. With the wisdom of experience I am self aware enough to hopefully ensure I don't fall into the hole (too deep) again. It helps hearing that I am not alone as a creative.
Really enjoy watching your videos! Learned a lot from you in clubhouse couple of years back as well!
Man you are always on point ☝🏿
Man I’ve only been making a video a week for one year and I’ve really begun having trouble with having fun while making these videos.
I did feel you on this one ☝️
Deep!!! I've been stuck in this rut and delima for 3 years and am looking to put somthing together for myself and I need it to make sense for my family and career.
I love your pov about BTS focus and getting back to story. So true! You may have saved me from heading in that direction. Love your content.
Definitely have been feeling this way for a while. I used to create everyday and just had the urge to learn new things but I really became uninspired...uninspired by the music and lack of storytelling as well as people just wanting a quick video just to post. I'm slowly getting back into the grove and just doing stuff I like. But of course you still have to pay bills. It can be an ugly balance
I’m 18 and it’s always been and still is my passion and goal to direct films as my career. I’m ready to put in tons of work of directing, writing, DP’ing, editing, help finance projects for me but coming from a very financially unstable and lower middle class background I’m also incredibly terrified about the financial situation. I don’t have any financial cushion so I was always taught by my parents to just do what makes me feel fulfilled as a person in life instead of just focusing on how to get rich. I do follow that advice but at the same time I’m terrified of never being able to do what I feel completes me as a person, because from a lower middle/lower class background it’s incredibly likely you’ll stay in that area throughout your life so I would much rather stay there doing something I’m passionate about rather than be down here stuck somewhere I don’t like with no way out. Obviously my number one goal would be to get to a place where I can earn livable money doing film but jumping off from where I am is so scary because no one really makes it where I come from and leaping out of the lower middle/lower class ballpark is a tough thing to do. It feels like cliff jumping blind folded with my hands tied behind my back and trying to land on a soft rock head up. But I have a fire that I feel like I need to spread and I don’t want it snuffing out.
Soooo many gems being dropped here. Especially the money part and the numbers part. I force myself to never look at the number of views or subs I have. That keeps me fresh and young. Thank you for another good video.
Honestly yes, I can't stand most of the "filmmaking content" I also feel like a lot of film youtubers miss the point and only talk about the newest gear. They don't really ever talk about the many things outside of getting the latest and greatest camera.
Very well said I agree with everything you’ve said . Awesome video
I'm a big fan of BTS content. I don't really track creators on Instagram. I look their occasionally, but, not often. So, I don't see that BTS is overtaking content in general. I learn a lot from BTS, so I always welcome it wherever I can catch it. I agree with the saying that you can come to hate something when you start making money from it.
My focus nowadays is on creating short films. I work full time, so my weekends are the only times I have to create such content. Developing the stories takes up most of my time. I don't shoot anything for clients or corporate videos. I prefer to spend what energy I have on personal projects, where my only desire is to create and not on making money. Filmmaking, in general, is a lot of work. On every level. From writing all through filming, there is a lot of work that has to be done to complete one project. So, I keep pushing forward and try not to let anything bring down my desire to create. Creating is as important to me as eating. So, as long as I'm able to create something, I find the energy to keep doing it. Good luck in 2024. I hope you find new inspiration to keep doing what you're doing. I appreciate your content.
So accurate. I have so many projects that I've done and were never posted just because I didn't film the bts to go along...like why? I definitely used to love and get excited just about filming and making the best video and now, if I don't have the bts, that video is not gonna get posted😢😢😢 I need to change
I fell into a rut and just couldn't seem to shake it. I think it was because I was trying to do everything myself. Team up with other people who are younger, hungrier than you, they will fire you up. It worked for me it gave me my love back for filmmaking. Let others have ideas and work on them, I burnt out trying to come up with everything.
Really valid points here dude! Loved the point about the BTS films. I often think, where are photographers putting the work they now make BTS How to videos about? I wanna see those photos!!
Great content to finish the year.
So True
I have ended up enjoying photography more that videography for the simple reason that I'm not doing it for money
Def need to get back to some passion projects
I was just speaking to a photographer about this 💯💯.. so glad you brought this up 🤔🤓 Professor YC🎓
I'm born and raised in Amsterdam and seeing you rocking PATTA makes me proud man. All love!
This is one of your best videos of the year!
Great video man !
"If my intention was to fulfill my creative urge by making the thing, then that's a success in itself." This video has been a huge inspiration.
I feel the need to figure how to break into the industry of passion based projects. Documentary and Short Film Art. And Yeah I feel you it all feels so forced and digital now a days, like even artistic expression through characters and writing/dialogue.
I get what you are saying. It is a hard line to balance both. I'm an old scholl film maker and after mulitple times trying to do YT. I finally just said I am going to film what I like and those that like it will and those that do not. Will not. So just be me and do me. Balance life and work!
100% all of this and that quote is bang on! I haven’t posted a video in 2 years because of the lack of enthusiasm and being a slave to my work, Broadcast TV, where earning, family, kids are all way more important and it’s just not sustainable to have the “job” and the “hobby” being the same thing.
Great video 🤙
I did live event broadcast for the bulk of my career. Now I time for narrative and short form filmmaking.
I feel you.. I mean I've been trying not to make those kinds of things. Doesn't really do well unless I put a Famous face on it.. And lately even when I've done that it was really because I was passionate about it. I go back and forth about going back to a more generic way of making. And I still do that sort of generic stuff when I'm making videos for others. But when it comes to my UA-cam channel and some of the short stories that I want to make into films or videos or whatever you want to call it.. It's just not "maybe" commercially viable. So, I attempt to separate likes and views from how I feel about the project. The trip is no matter what kind of art and I've tried a lot of different kinds. It never turns out the way I see it in my head. If I can even get a glimpse into the real world from what I see in mt head then I know I'm doing something right. That doesn't mean it's not a struggle to stay happy with it " For myself rather than the numbers".
Definitely makes me happy when I get low views and likes to have a friend reach out and say that was cool or my family get what I'm trying to say. Anyway, I don't know if any of that made any sense there's some random rambles triggered. Have a good one.
Totally feel you on the biy aspect of it all, it takes real focus to keep it all going. I find it so easy to procastrinate, I love UA-cambut its right there to distract me whilst i should be working
After watching your videos for a few years, I feel nuts coming back into my dream of doing video work. Especially after a good career in tech. What sort of crazy dumps a good career for a huge block of time to maybe make a small living from. You are preaching it. I am enthralled and proud of your success and your grind here on this space! I doubt I have the talent to do similar. Money doesn’t buy peace or happiness. For real! Internet filmmaking can be fun, but the industry and people wanting to pull a buck from the marketing money involved is creating a ton of industry controlled video that just is not fun or seemingly creative. I am grateful when I see creators like you drop a vid though. Because there is heart in it.
Thanks for doing what you do!
I understand your pain bruh. Everything you said is right on point.
if you (primarily) in commercial work this isn't surprising
perhaps try if it's possible some independent things, maybe give a try reading "Sculpting in time" by Tarkovsky and "Bresson on Bresson" and "Notes on the cinematograph" by Robert Bresson
can't say anything more of a value about my experience because well it's my subjective thing that due to the huge factors will hardly apply to anyone else, but the key differences that I have ASD (and other severe health issues), live in Russia in borderline poverty, etc etc., and mainly had only theoretical experience and have zero clue if I even can make something, like a decent movie or so
Dude great vid. Totally agree, spot on. Up till now I just couldn’t really explain it in words, and here you are telling exactly how it is. Indeed the BTS stuff is more popular, even shitty phone bts footage do better than some of my short films which have so much effort, time and thoughts in it. Great to see I’m not alone in this. Thx dude. I’m kinda fan of your stuff man. Keep it up, inspiration and very relatable
Yes. I think everyone's ability to easily make things pretty, but empty has kind of been slowly poisoning the well
I actually feel that Film/Media has become sanitised for example movies like Trainspotting and Robocop 1987 wouldn't even be greenlit today.
I loved it when you say that the things that got most numbers doesent necesarly mean they are the best
I needed this
I feel this so hard, producing especially is a majorly draining profession when you love filmmaking. Producing and Directing my own films is my passion, but I love doing sound recording for money because it pays well and requires way less demand mentally and physically. It's not the solution for everybody, but regardless of your position on-set, I think finding jobs/packages that you can offer that drain you as little as possible and pay you as much as possible are absolutely essential for long term sustainability in this industry.
I work in the advertising industry.. I have not came to the point of burnout as of yet, but I fear I will lose my passion for what has kept me going for the past few years.. I love making films ! I really do. but I fear the overwhelming workload will be the end of my desire for it... I just pray about it.
I feel people aren't really interested in the end result....they just want to know how you did it so they can copy and do it themselves.
I shot a dope music video last january but the artists has not released it yet... other than the annoyances of tem not sharing the wor, it was a great experience. But sadly i cant share it wthout the artist sharing it first but thats my only issue with music videos and dealing with artists. Apparently dude is nervous about the reception of the song which is fire by the way. but, i digress. Wish he releases thetrack sometime this century!
Yeh man …. I feel ya…. Same here
That phenomenon is not a new thing ( Rossellini talked about this). And I would go even further: when you’re decacadent to such an extent that you have no more creative things to film, you hire the best DoP you can find and rely on him to make the « prettiest image » which can be made. Superficial and empty. (DoPs with swollen ankles who think they can do the job of a author-director. Technicians should stick to their fields of competence.).
I am not looking at the numbers anymore because it stopped me from having fun and just creating!
yes
When it comes to Social Media, the algorithm’s got creators by the short hairs. Now more than ever. Just take a stroll through UA-cam and you’ll find plenty of established channels singing the same sad tune. Meanwhile the “distributors” keep demanding more content while paying less money. Something needs to change.
Can definitely relate to this video.
I agree most people just have a camera and make money from photography and videography but no passion. Pisses me off cos i love videography and photography i would take every camera ever made for free and just shoot movies and music videos. Not getting paid cos I just fucking love it. Its a passion.
After I watch the how it was made. I usually go and watch what was made.
Spot on!!
Preach
Dope video
i feel the same way men.well said
This video relates 100%
I felt this man
Do you have those film burns for sale used in this video?
thank you:)
Did you blur out the … Air Max logo? Curious as to why?
I think this is just part of Growth and the process that comes along with it