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@@larserik8899 When I was a machine gunner my company decided to use the new GPMG like a light machine gun, meaning the machine gunner had to carry everything by himself, including 1000 rounds of 7.62×51. Never weighed that shit, but I estimate the ammo alone to be 25-30kg (55-66 lbs). Definitly made me question my life choices when being on a week long live fire exercise.
In Iraq I carried 13 30rnd mags on my body and 8 in my day bag. And in a duffle bag in back of hummvee we had 25 full mags. When I carried the m203 with my m4 I carried 7 40mm grenades for it
@spqr1945 When it comes to guns, ammo, and reloading supplies, I like to live by the words of the flamboyant entertainer Liberace, "Too much is not enough!"
@@ricjaredpalandiano5055 Always Happens In All Wars. Re-Supply Can't Be Counted On, So To Survive, Soldiers Use Fallen Comrades Weapons, As Well As That Of Their Enemies, To Continue The Fight!
*They carried as much as they could get for to stay alive! FTFY, at least in regards to the guys doing shit like clipping them to their bandoliers, belts and shoving clips in there pockets
It ain't just soldiers. If you carry a gun professionally, you've had a nightmare or 50 of being in the shit and either running out of ammo or having it malfunction.
If I remember correctly, Wollas Macey told me he carried 300 rounds on the morning of June 6th, 1944, along with 80lbs of explosives. Wollace was 6' 5" and 250lbs though. I've hunted Elk and Deer with an '06 and I don't believe I ever carried more than 2 boxes, or 40 rounds with me, but then again, the Elk and Deer weren't shooting back.
Both my grandfathers were in WWII in Europe (one transfered to the Pacific after Germany fell). One grandfather carried a BAR and he told me he carried at least 240 rounds. The other grandfather carried an M1903A3 bolt action 30-06 for most of his time in France, then in Italy and he said he used to carry at least 80 rounds. Note he was a marksman but not officially classified as a Sniper, even though that's the job he was doing. Interestingly enough, when he came back to the US he worked as a carpenter out a White Sands building things (houses n towns, etc) that were blown up by nuclear weapons and was sheltering in trenches only a couple miles from two tests (they say those guys died early from those tests but Pampaw lived to be 98 before he died of heart failure)
My Grandfather is a WWII ARMY Veteran. He says his M1 was his best friend. He just turned 100! To all out there serving our country, thank you for your service. 🙏🏻🇺🇸🙏🏻
What a blessing. My father was a WW2 Vet. If he was still around, I would spend all my waking hours at his feet as I plied him with questions about his experience in WW2.
Learn everything you can from him. He's one of the last standing. Listen to his stories because it's some of the last being told from someone who was there. Best to him and his.
Some WW2 Marines I knew said they'd carry as much as they thought they needed, if there was plenty to be had it was "Take as much as you want!" but 200 rounds for the M1 was considered sufficient. And remember, not only did the riflemen have to carry ammo for their own weapon in most cases they also had to carry ammo for the machine guns as well. Those MG's didn't feed themselves and the gunners couldn't carry it all. And with all that the Marine philosophy was still "You can only carry so many rounds, so don't waste 'em!"
@@markrossow6303 And don't forget, no matter what his MOS, "Military Occupational Specialty" might be every Marine from the Commandant on down carries the additional MOS of "rifleman." And all are required to qualify with the rifle once a year.
@@someoneelsethatisirrelevan1769 No, half that, or 25. 200 divided by 8 is 25, not 50. Apparently, in addition to irrelevant, you're also innumerate...
It is a great round. But it’s overkill for human targets and they’re huge and heavy. As he said, a bandolier only carried 80 rounds. Today a bandolier carries 210 of 5.56, which is more than adequate for human targets. I know I’d rather have 210 than 80.
I remember listening to a neighbor back in the early 90's. He was in WWII, He said " Ammo was always a concern, but it was laying everywhere. So you just had to pick it up and clean it off." I really didn't understand at the time what he meant by that. After growing up, you figured out exactly what he meant by that. They were a completely different breed back in those days. My hats off to all the Vets and currently enlisted men and women. Thank you for your service,
Something my father always said when he was in Nam on long marches. “I rather be sweating from carrying excess ammo, than be bleeding with an empty rifle.”
@@AutismusCarlangusMaximus Yeah, that was my thought exactly. Well, I hadn't thought about the seat belt. That's been automatic for me for decades, especially if I'm driving. Back in the late '80's I was driving a company truck & swerved to keep from hitting a deer. I wasn't wearing my belt & it was raining & I'm just starting into an S shaped curve at about 65mph with traffic coming from the other way, & I'm counter steering & counter steering all over the road trying to dodge cars & not run off the road cuz major drops on both sides. By the time I got stopped I was almost on the passenger side of the truck. My saving grace was that there was no one behind me. I've ALWAYS put my belt on ever since. That one convinced me.
96 rounds was two bandoleers, and seems to be the standard amount of ammo issued. 30-06 is heavy. A rifleman didn't go around with a full cartridge belt & 4 bandoleers. If I remember correctly, the average soldier fired less than 48 rounds in combat during their entire time in the war.
@@donwyoming1936That’s the thing about averages. A lot of guys never fired a round, while some guys fired hundreds. It all has to do with where and when they were assigned to be and what role they played.
I asked my father how much ammo they carried for their M-16s when he was in Vietnam and Cambodia as an E5 with the U.S. Army 1st Infantry Division from 1969-1970. He said as much as they could comfortably manage and thus it varied from soldier to soldier. He carried a bit less M-16 ammo, though, as he also carried an M79 grenade launcher (aka "blooper") with 40mm fléchette rounds.
1958-1963 our basic load for the M1 was 148 rounds 1962 We, 82nd Airborne were about to deploy into South America. As we drew live Ammo the old WW2, KOREAN combat vet SGT said "Fill your pockets with all the Ammo and grenades you can carry.
When the Army converted to the M 14 the 82nd kept our M1 garands, carbines, BAR Etc. I held several MOS And spent a lot of my 6 years AD on various Marksmanship units. The word was our CG Said our gear is battle tested.. Since we often deployed to ?? He would not change. We also still had our Horseshoe packs When I arrived on Okinawa in 63 the 173rd had the M 14 and ALICE Pack web gear
Across the various battlefields of the past hundred years or so, if you were to ask an infantryman how much ammo he carries, his answer would almost always be: “as much as I can get my hands on”.
After the self encased cartridge, definitely. For *some reason* soldiers in the loose powder & ball era only seemed to want to carry as much as they absolutely needed. A stray spark or even too much atmospheric static before a storm could *really* mess up your day.
@@easyenetwork2023 Oftentimes what you could get your hands on was less than what you could carry. It is possible to carry *a lot* of ammunition, and ammo allotments rarely reach that maximum.
And this is one of the reasons the M1 carbine became so popular late in the war, at the close ranges typically being fought at in europe or the pacific jungles and island hopping campaigns. M1 Garand weighed on the low side 9.5 pounds with an effective firing range of 500 yards and a ROF of 40-50 per minute. The M1 Carbine is more than 4 pounds lighter, only gives up 200 yards of effective range , and has an aimed rof about 20 rounds faster. The .30 carbine ammunition is less than half the weight of the .30-06 also.
I've often been annoyed while watching a film set in WWII and noticing clearly empty ammo belts. But I saw an interview with one of the Rangers that climbed Point du Hoc on D-Day, he stated he rarely filled his belt, preffering the bandoleers.
Always carry enough ammo for the battle you dont want to be in. I learned that the hard way in Sadr City. I always carried 300 rounds of .308 for my M-14. .30-06 is even heavier and guys back then were skinny as hell.
@@drsteelhead7278 there is lots to carry. Laws rockets, grenades, claymore mines, if your s grenadier Vietnam the m-79 and modern day The m203 which both fired 40 mm grenades. The stove pipe 90mm recoilless rifle Vietnam era late 70's hand grenades, flares. Weapon issued ammo. Took as much as you could get. 50 caliber rifles were assigned to csc. Back when I was in they had 2 lb sticks of c-4 and TNT was available. C-4 was easier to work with. 28 lbs of c-4 tapped to a jeep would throw it 40 or 50 feet through the air. People who were 11b10 infantry felt like pack mules. Had to carry sea rats also came in box with cigarettes 4 sticks in a pack. I use to get the smokes from the people who did not smoke.each company had 3 rifle platoons and 1 mortar platoon. The battalion had a csc who were issues the 50 calibers. TOWs rockets. They had vehicles and are platoons who were not combat support company walked everywhere. Sometimes helicopters Huey's brought us to a location and we walked from there or csc transported us on drive and a halfs. We did lots of walking. Many of the infantry at the time we're going mechanized, not us. Spent very little time on APC.
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@@benkelly2190is he though? He is saying it sucks to run out of ammo in a game, but to run out during actual combat is heart stoppingly terrifying. I see no comparison
Or guys that survived long enough to know better. There is a saying "Ammo is like money, there's never enough when you absolutely need it". Or as Clint Smith says "I have never heard anyone say they had too much ammunition in a fight".
It just shows how high their testosterone levels were compared to today. Average guy was 5’6” and weighed 140 carrying ammo like it’s going out of style. Now u hear people saying 200 rounds of 5.56 is too much. 😂
@@inreallife530 it builds strength. It’s why the average small man back then was stronger than the average bigger man now. The current young men have lower t levels than I do in my mid fifties. Mine, in my twenties, was lower than my grandfathers in his 60’s. We are becoming weaker and something is attacking our T. That all I was getting at. They carried a heavier rifle, heavier ammo and supplies while 3” shorter and 30 pounds lighter.
Now just think about what type of tough S.O.B.s them guys were. The M1 Garand was about a 10lb. rifle. Not exactly sure how heavy 8 rounds in an en bloc clip, but I'm guessing about 8oz., or more. I seem to recall the U.S government phased out the M-14, the upgrade to the M1, because it, and it's 7.62x51mm cartridge were considered too heavy for a soldier to carry, and our boys carried the M1 and as much ammo as they could carry all across Europe, and eventually throughout the Pacific. Damn!... Those guys truly were the greatest, and the toughest, generation! Here's to them🍻 God bless the heroes of WW2.
A soviet soldier with mosin rifle carried 50 rounds in clips + 5 rounds in the rifle. A soldier with AVS-36 or SVT-40 would typically carry 80 rounds on mags +10 rounds, but some soldiers with AVS-36 or full auto modification of SVT-40 (a super rare version issued to one division only, although some soldiers modified their rifles for full auto DIY. DIY full auto versions lost the ability to fire semi-auto) would carry some extra ammo.
I think that was on the belt 60 each of the ammo packs could hold 3 5rd clips I think they were on paper issued an extra 3 packs of 20 rounds to refill there pouches or to give to the DPM gunner plus before combat if you could you would load 5 into the rifle giving you 65-125 rounds Germans were similar except I think there pouches could hold 20 rounds and the Japanese had 80 in front pouches and 80 in the back pouch the Brits used bandoliers to carry rifle ammo as the belt pouches were for bren gun mags so on paper I think Brits carried 80 in 1 bandolier
@@jonthinks6238 who told you such BS? You might be surprised, but infantry regiments the western military district was almost fully rearmed to semi/full auto rifles by 1941 according to the 04/401 template freely available online. You're can search (04/401 штат советской армии) and see some pictures. Obviously not all the units were rearmed, but rearmament of the western military district was almost completed. Which means that the old rifles were taken away for storage and new were given out. It gives us the rifles given out to the people after the mass mobilization was called up. The amount of mosin rifles produced throughout history is 37 million. 32 of them were produced by the Soviet Union. By 1941 Soviet Union had about 9 million Mosin rifles. The amount of soldiers in the Soviet army on 22nd of June 5,7 million. Apart from rifles soldiers also had machine guns, SMG's, pistols (for officers and commissaries according to 04/401 and 04/751 templates as well as some non combat troops). So if we just arm every soldier with a Mosin rifle, we'll be left with 3.3 million Mosin rifles together with all the other weapon types. Therefore every soldier had at least some weapon and didn't have to loot the dead for ammo unless for emergency circumstances like encirclements, which granted, happened a lot in the beginning of the war.
Did the military switch to all M4's? I carried an M16A2, carrying handle removed with full rail system and various attachments ( red dot, back-up iron sights, flashlight, vertical front handle, etc. ). This was when I went to Iraq in 05-06.
@@tattooedman42yep. Even guard and reserve have the M4 now. The M9 is also gone replaced by the Sig Sauer M17 which is a P320 with manual safety. The M17 is a nice shooting pistol, better than the M9, in my opinion.
Two 100 round belts of 7.62x51mm NATO weighs 12 pounds. So 200 .30-06 rounds plus the clips should be a little heavier as they’re slightly larger cartridges.
When I was rifleman i carried 200 rounds. Back in 76 to 79. When I was a m-60 machine gunner we carried as much as we could varry me and my assisant gunner. Its neen a long time the m60 fired from open bolt position and it was belt fed. If memory does not fail me it was in boxes of 100 rounds in a small box. I would think we carried at least 500 rounds between me and assistant gunner who had to carry and extra barrell and tripod.
Machine Gunner and assistant gunner back than carried wore out 1911 45 acp. Never jammed and throwing a rock is more accurate. I civilian world I owned a Springfield and a few other 45 acp in 1911 and they were accurate. The military 45 we had was WWII issue
In VN selected riflemen each carried a belt o M-60 ammo. In addition the assistant gunner carried at least one can and a couple of belts of 60 ammo. You would hump either a belt of 60 ammo, a claymore or a LAW. Personally I carried 250-300 rounds of 5.56 mm. Never got low on ammo…. Thank God, but if you’re firing at full auto you can burn through it pretty fast.
Yeah because of that reason they switched to 5.56, because it is lighter and you can carry way more ammo. The same ammount of 30-06 would be really heavy.
My father carried a Browning Automatic in Germany. He carried 8 mags, 20 rounds each. Each loaded mag weighed 1lb 7oz, so over 8lbs of ammo, then his pack and other things. My father's military registration card had him at 5'6" and weighed 140 lbs. He stripped off the parts that he didn't need and it rifle still weighed around 20 lbs. He carried it until he was shot through both legs in March of 45.
The .30-'06 round is not substantially different in size, weight or power from the German 8mm round used against Allied forces. The 8mm Mauser round is marginally more powerful.
WW2 soldiers seldom fired more than 48 rounds in combat during the entire war. Many, never fired their rifles at all. A very small number of troops did the lion's share of the shooting. An anomaly that continued for decades.
That study was determined to be flawed but it did cause a change in marksmanship training for the US Army. I do not know about the other branches so I mean no slight.
Of course, many soldiers weren't in combat roles where firing their rifle would be expected. An army needs enormous numbers of people in support roles. Drivers, mechanics, cooks, etc. My grandfather never fired his rifle in anger, but that's not surprising given that he was a carpenter. He was with HQ a few miles back from the front line fixing things. If he needed to use his rifle, something was going extremely wrong.
@@thomasdalton1508 My British grandfather spend the whole war on defence in Egypt in a trench whilst tanks fought in the desert. My American grandfather was dropping bombs on Japan and survived, only to die in the Korean war a few years later. Was certainly not fair where you got posted or what would happen to you there.
@@cattysplat Absolutely. You serve how and where the army needs you. My grandfather wanted to be a radio operator, but the army couldn't care less what he wanted. He was more useful to them as a carpenter (since that was what he was trained as in civilian life), so that's what they told him he had to do. War and fairness have nothing to do with each other.
You obviously have NO idea what you are talking about. You are not at the range, you shoot at whatever you think the fire is coming from, and you pray and cuss at the same time.
You would. The .30-06 round weighs roughly 26 grams. That's bullet, case, powder and primer. If you carry 200 of the things that's roughly 5.2 kg of extra weight. Not an extreme amount, but something that is very noticeable.
@@dr.krimson1010 Ah yeah you’d definitely be feeling that weight especially over a distance! Thanks very much for explaining that to me man I appreciate you taking the time🙂
Thank you for answering this question for me. I’ve been trying to ask this question For about a decade now, I’m not that old, but I’ve been trying to get this one. Thank you for answering
They were not using AP ammo in WWII. No one was using body armor back then. And no standard small arm is penetrating heavy armor. AP ammo would be useless and cost more
@@CharlieFoxtrot128 they have been producing AP since the early days of M1AP, it had nothing to do with body armour,,price was not an issue for Uncle Sam. It was the preferred round as it could penetrate 20" of oak tree, and as the M2 Ball is a detuned replacement for M1 Ball, it was a flat base 150gn projectile, while the AP projectile is a 163 gn boattail in the M2AP, based on the 173 gn Mm1AP round, and was more accurate, and was later used as the M72 Match ammo..My Grandfather was in the 79th ID, and taught me he had 2 loads for his M1..regular load was 6 rounds M2 Ball, followed by 1 round of tracer, and ending with 1 round of M2AP..the tracer round let him know he had 1 round left, the AP..his other load was 8 rounds of M2AP, M1AP when they could find it..M1 Ball was phased out to M2 Ball, but was still being produced until 1941 or 1942, produced at the Frankfort Arsenal.
The correct answer is as much as they could carry and depending on the mission. Bear in mind a lot of these guys had a farming or labourer background so were already used to physically demanding work before going through their training that made them stronger and tougher.
The average WW2 GI was malnourished and grew up without sufficient caloric intake, usually leading to stunted growth. That's why they were all 5'6 and 140lbs.
Ex-combat engineer....But the answer is what you can comfortably carry or feel comfortable with. Another factor is depending on supply and logistics, sometimes it is best to carry more Cos you never know when the truck is coming if the area is contested.
Depending on how far away you were to the supply lines & how much fighting you did on the daily was the base rate of what you'd carry. Then if you were holding a position you'd probably carry more than If you were marching. If you were marching then you would obviously be further away from a supply line and want to carry more, so you would carry as much as you could based on your strength and endurance but not so much that you would get weighed down. So this answer varies from person to person. But within every platoon or battalion there is always that big guy who could carry a thousand rounds and basically distribute to everyone else. You always want to be near that guy!
In "With the Old Breed," reading how Eugene Sledge kitted himself for the Peleliu landing with a "light load...taking only what was necessary" only for him to make a long list of all the weapons and ammo he was carrying was both funny and chilling.
11-M here. I carried a SAW with 2/200 round drums in the top of my 100 lb assault pack, One on each rear hip and a drum in my weapon, with 6 mags in my LBV ! I wasn't getting caught with my pants down !!!😉
In the early years of the war, Brits, Canadians, Aussies etc., had very, very little ammo, supplies, food, etc. The boys (my dad included) had to make do with very little ammo. It was one of the reasons, they valued and employed accurate fire, very limited burts on full auto etc.
Dang. In Afghanistan I carried a standard 7 mag load (30 rounds each) plus 5 spare mags in my assault pack or rear pack, for about 360 rounds, plus 4 grenades, 4 blocks of c4 with blast kits, 1 claymore mine, and 2 knives.
The correct answer is that they carried enough that they needn't fear running out. Additionally, with everyone using the same round during WW2 (snipers with the 1903, the SAW of the time was the BAR, etc) carrying extra ammo also meant if your friends used up more than expected (or you came to reinforce another unit who had been VERY busy) you wanted to have enough extra to spread some around without leaving yourself out of ammo.
Soviet Union: Vladimir takes Mosin-Nagant with 10 rounds, Yuri takes only 20 rounds. When Vladimir dies, Yuri takes gun: if Yuri dies first, Vladimir takes ammo from his body. This is called sharing of resources comrade Boris
I served 6 years us army infantry, I carried 1,000 rounds on my armor and another 200 round drum on my weapon, as a saw gunner, shit sucked to walk with but it went quick
Depends. Usually, a webbing belt that carried twelve magazines. Three pouches on either side. Each pouch carrying two mags. Some guys would wear an extra bandolier or two. Each bandolier would have three pouches of two magazines. For a total of six mags per bandolier. Grand Total of 12 to 24 mags or 240 rnds to 480 rnds. In situations where the BAR Gunners were the only ad hoc weapon support, it was common to pair a rifleman as an Assistant BAR Gunner and load him down with extra BAR mags as well.
Wow that's a Great explanation of the question. Plus the M1 Garand Rifle was then known too be the best infantry Rifle on the Battlefield at that time. Thanks for Sharing.
I served as infantry during the Afghan campaign, I can’t imagine even going out for a patrol with just 80rds. That would not last long at all. Frightening to think about.
They were doing that whole "when you need ammo, it will be laying around" shit. I am not going to say they gave a SHIT about us, but they REALLY didn't care about these guys.
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Youll never hear a soldier say "i wish i had less ammo". Theyll carry as much as theyre comfortable with
Wait until you get to a machine gun team and you're humping 1000 7.62 😂
True story. It always seems like ya can’t carry enough of
It. Atleast that how I felt hump a SAW around lol
Idk man bullets get pretty heavy on long movements 😂
That is true as a ex navy sailor ….. the only time they would not take any is if it’s slowing them down ……… and or they ran out of places to put them
@@larserik8899 When I was a machine gunner my company decided to use the new GPMG like a light machine gun, meaning the machine gunner had to carry everything by himself, including 1000 rounds of 7.62×51. Never weighed that shit, but I estimate the ammo alone to be 25-30kg (55-66 lbs). Definitly made me question my life choices when being on a week long live fire exercise.
How much ammo did a U.S. Rifleman carry?
Well, how much ya got?
In Iraq I carried 13 30rnd mags on my body and 8 in my day bag. And in a duffle bag in back of hummvee we had 25 full mags.
When I carried the m203 with my m4 I carried 7 40mm grenades for it
@@SGTMillerm if liberals wanna know why you carry that much ammo i gotchu. Because America mother fucker thats why 😂 thank you for your service ✊🇺🇲
@SGTMillerm, thank you for your service.
@@SGTMillermthanks for your service!
How many did you empty
@@T1A4437 every day on average. More than half of my mags. Sometimes less. Sometimes way more. Some days none. Depends on the day
There are only two types of situations with ammo:
1. Not enough
2. Not enough but can’t carry more.
😂
@spqr1945 When it comes to guns, ammo, and reloading supplies, I like to live by the words of the flamboyant entertainer Liberace, "Too much is not enough!"
@@-.Stevensounds like my dad
@@Kma99107 😁 Love it!
@@-.Steven 300 rounds of .50 BMG and he was like "I'd buy more but I don't want to break the bank"
Fun little fact, the United States is estimated to have produced ~47 billion rounds between the years 1942-1946
And more planes were shot down during WWII than currently exist, if I remember correctly.
And the US produced more ships in like 6 months than what the Japanese did in 2 years
Alot of that probably has to do with the lend lease act. Which is supplying Britain and Russian with war stuff before the usa entered the war.
Was that the ammo produced specifically for the war overseas or did that amount include domestic use within the US?
@@veikkakarvonen831 Yes and most of them were shot down by their own people. and they called it friendly fire.
Imagine scavenging your fallen brothers for ammo in desperate situations. Thank you sincerely to those who fought for us.
That happens... if you think about it, it happens. Even if you think it wouldn't, it happened somewhere during WW2.
they wouldn't care anymore. theyre gone.
Literally picking up bros loot after they get deleted in Fortnite.
@@ricjaredpalandiano5055
Always Happens In All Wars.
Re-Supply Can't Be Counted On,
So To Survive, Soldiers Use Fallen Comrades Weapons, As Well As That Of Their Enemies, To Continue The Fight!
You do what you do to survive 🤷♂️
They carried as much as they felt comfortable as to stay alive! 😮
*They carried as much as they could get for to stay alive!
FTFY, at least in regards to the guys doing shit like clipping them to their bandoliers, belts and shoving clips in there pockets
? Worded strangely but understood
So he was what? 18? And went to go didn't the deadliest war in history? Good man.... good man.
It enough.
the comfortable amount is the most amount.
The soldier's nightmare is to RUN out of bullets in the middle of a fight...
I do wish the Military would go back to the tried and true wood and metal entrenching tools as those were designed with hand to hand fighting in mind.
Agreed and I think honestly it's anyone nightmare! Just thinking home invasion or a cop facing someone trying to kill them.
It's nightmare fuel!
Fact🇺🇲👍✝️
It ain't just soldiers. If you carry a gun professionally, you've had a nightmare or 50 of being in the shit and either running out of ammo or having it malfunction.
That's called pick a gun off the ground.
That one dude who got the whole squad covered: _Muffled giggling_
Muffled by ammo
@@thesysop4998Muffled by deez nuts
Yes, because he's carrying it in a M1919 belt. For the dude who carries the M1919.
Bandoliers in a cross, bandoliers around the thigh, bandoliers...
Ain't no fun if the homies can't have none.
If I remember correctly, Wollas Macey told me he carried 300 rounds on the morning of June 6th, 1944, along with 80lbs of explosives. Wollace was 6' 5" and 250lbs though.
I've hunted Elk and Deer with an '06 and I don't believe I ever carried more than 2 boxes, or 40 rounds with me, but then again, the Elk and Deer weren't shooting back.
lol
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And his 5' 6 180lb comrade probably had to carry the same
Both my grandfathers were in WWII in Europe (one transfered to the Pacific after Germany fell). One grandfather carried a BAR and he told me he carried at least 240 rounds. The other grandfather carried an M1903A3 bolt action 30-06 for most of his time in France, then in Italy and he said he used to carry at least 80 rounds. Note he was a marksman but not officially classified as a Sniper, even though that's the job he was doing. Interestingly enough, when he came back to the US he worked as a carpenter out a White Sands building things (houses n towns, etc) that were blown up by nuclear weapons and was sheltering in trenches only a couple miles from two tests (they say those guys died early from those tests but Pampaw lived to be 98 before he died of heart failure)
My Grandfather is a WWII ARMY Veteran. He says his M1 was his best friend. He just turned 100!
To all out there serving our country, thank you for your service.
🙏🏻🇺🇸🙏🏻
God bless that man. My grandfathers, both WW2 vets, would have turned 100 in the year 2025.
Americans and your fetish of praising the army... Can you even imagine not going to war/ starting one every 5 mins ?
What a blessing. My father was a WW2 Vet. If he was still around, I would spend all my waking hours at his feet as I plied him with questions about his experience in WW2.
Tell your Grandpa, "Much respect" from me please.
My Grandpa was a WW2 vet as well.
Learn everything you can from him. He's one of the last standing. Listen to his stories because it's some of the last being told from someone who was there. Best to him and his.
Some WW2 Marines I knew said they'd carry as much as they thought they needed, if there was plenty to be had it was "Take as much as you want!" but 200 rounds for the M1 was considered sufficient. And remember, not only did the riflemen have to carry ammo for their own weapon in most cases they also had to carry ammo for the machine guns as well. Those MG's didn't feed themselves and the gunners couldn't carry it all.
And with all that the Marine philosophy was still "You can only carry so many rounds, so don't waste 'em!"
yes "Rifleman" is the USMC term -- "Infantryman" for the Army
@@markrossow6303 And don't forget, no matter what his MOS, "Military Occupational Specialty" might be every Marine from the Commandant on down carries the additional MOS of "rifleman." And all are required to qualify with the rifle once a year.
200 rounds for M1 Garand is like 50 cycles of reload 🤔
@@someoneelsethatisirrelevan1769 No, half that, or 25. 200 divided by 8 is 25, not 50. Apparently, in addition to irrelevant, you're also innumerate...
@@AndrewAMartin oh, right....
I was thinking about 4 but it's actually 8. Yeah, thanks for correcting me
30-06 is such a great cartridge
Great cure for p dough files.
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@@scottmccloud9029 eh don't waste such good ammo on that, just dump a few .38 or .22 with utmost disrespect
It is a great round. But it’s overkill for human targets and they’re huge and heavy. As he said, a bandolier only carried 80 rounds. Today a bandolier carries 210 of 5.56, which is more than adequate for human targets. I know I’d rather have 210 than 80.
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.338 Norma that US tries to adopt to ruin NATO standardisation says hello
A short featuring a M1 without a pling sound is a criminal offense.
A war crime in fact!
*send this man to federal prison*
just about as criminal as spelling ping wrong!!! rahhhh vf nsvrtngtfxngrntfxgrmt
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I remember listening to a neighbor back in the early 90's. He was in WWII, He said " Ammo was always a concern, but it was laying everywhere. So you just had to pick it up and clean it off." I really didn't understand at the time what he meant by that. After growing up, you figured out exactly what he meant by that. They were a completely different breed back in those days. My hats off to all the Vets and currently enlisted men and women. Thank you for your service,
yooo i just realized
thats crazyy
The dead no longer have any need for it. 😢
Salute for those veteran. I'm sure they're not comfortable picking ammo from their fallen comrade
In Vietnam, I carried an M16 with twenty 20-round magazines.
👍
Thank you my guy for your defense of my freedom and putting your life on the line! Rest in peace to those who did not make it home!
Did you only load 19? Rock and roll
@@cosmo5102Yeah that’s totally what the US was doing in Vietnam, protecting your “freedom”.
@@carlito___fml2652Yeah... what a delusional comment.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. E'nuff said!
Absolutely, i say that alot.
That's what I think on weekly trip to Gun Runners
Something my father always said when he was in Nam on long marches.
“I rather be sweating from carrying excess ammo, than be bleeding with an empty rifle.”
Just like a condom or a seatbelt 🤝
@@AutismusCarlangusMaximus Yeah, that was my thought exactly. Well, I hadn't thought about the seat belt. That's been automatic for me for decades, especially if I'm driving. Back in the late '80's I was driving a company truck & swerved to keep from hitting a deer. I wasn't wearing my belt & it was raining & I'm just starting into an S shaped curve at about 65mph with traffic coming from the other way, & I'm counter steering & counter steering all over the road trying to dodge cars & not run off the road cuz major drops on both sides. By the time I got stopped I was almost on the passenger side of the truck. My saving grace was that there was no one behind me. I've ALWAYS put my belt on ever since. That one convinced me.
I've read that standard issue was 96 rounds a day. Of course, that really didn't mean much.
That was without the bandoliers you almost never see us troops in combat without 1-4 bandoliers
96 rounds was two bandoleers, and seems to be the standard amount of ammo issued. 30-06 is heavy. A rifleman didn't go around with a full cartridge belt & 4 bandoleers.
If I remember correctly, the average soldier fired less than 48 rounds in combat during their entire time in the war.
Yeah that statement was for tax purposes 😂
@@donwyoming1936 My grandfather went through more than that during the Battle of the Bulge. And he was a BAR gunner.
@@donwyoming1936That’s the thing about averages. A lot of guys never fired a round, while some guys fired hundreds. It all has to do with where and when they were assigned to be and what role they played.
I asked my father how much ammo they carried for their M-16s when he was in Vietnam and Cambodia as an E5 with the U.S. Army 1st Infantry Division from 1969-1970.
He said as much as they could comfortably manage and thus it varied from soldier to soldier.
He carried a bit less M-16 ammo, though, as he also carried an M79 grenade launcher (aka "blooper") with 40mm fléchette rounds.
1958-1963 our basic load for the M1 was 148 rounds
1962 We, 82nd Airborne were about to deploy into South America.
As we drew live Ammo the old WW2, KOREAN combat vet SGT said
"Fill your pockets with all the Ammo and grenades you can carry.
South America ?
Yes
We, never the full division at one time deployed several time to South, Central America 61-63
You were issued an M1 in 1962 at the 82nd? Were you supply or admin?
When the Army converted to the M 14 the 82nd kept our M1 garands, carbines, BAR Etc.
I held several MOS And spent a lot of my 6 years AD on various Marksmanship units.
The word was our CG Said our gear is battle tested.. Since we often deployed to ?? He would not change.
We also still had our Horseshoe packs
When I arrived on Okinawa in 63 the 173rd had the M 14 and ALICE Pack web gear
@@mikemarthaller8789 Awesome sir 🤟💙
Across the various battlefields of the past hundred years or so, if you were to ask an infantryman how much ammo he carries, his answer would almost always be: “as much as I can get my hands on”.
True answer
After the self encased cartridge, definitely.
For *some reason* soldiers in the loose powder & ball era only seemed to want to carry as much as they absolutely needed.
A stray spark or even too much atmospheric static before a storm could *really* mess up your day.
You mean what you can carry? You have to be able to carry that weight everywhere.
@@nicholashodges201 that’s why I said “the past hundred years or so”.
@@easyenetwork2023 Oftentimes what you could get your hands on was less than what you could carry. It is possible to carry *a lot* of ammunition, and ammo allotments rarely reach that maximum.
Modern day standard is 210 rounds... 7 - 30rd mags... but the actual answer is how much you got.
And this is one of the reasons the M1 carbine became so popular late in the war, at the close ranges typically being fought at in europe or the pacific jungles and island hopping campaigns. M1 Garand weighed on the low side 9.5 pounds with an effective firing range of 500 yards and a ROF of 40-50 per minute. The M1 Carbine is more than 4 pounds lighter, only gives up 200 yards of effective range , and has an aimed rof about 20 rounds faster. The .30 carbine ammunition is less than half the weight of the .30-06 also.
Not sure about that 1/2 part more like 2/3 the weight
Fun fact, for the modern Australian Army soldier, the standard is 7 x magazines of 30 (210 rounds) and 8 x 100 belts for machine gunners.
damn 800 sounds like a heavy load on a soldier
I've often been annoyed while watching a film set in WWII and noticing clearly empty ammo belts. But I saw an interview with one of the Rangers that climbed Point du Hoc on D-Day, he stated he rarely filled his belt, preffering the bandoleers.
Always carry enough ammo for the battle you dont want to be in. I learned that the hard way in Sadr City. I always carried 300 rounds of .308 for my M-14. .30-06 is even heavier and guys back then were skinny as hell.
A friend of mine was Army in Vietnam. He said he carried 250 rounds for his M14, in addition to his M79 and its own ammo.
@@drsteelhead7278 there is lots to carry. Laws rockets, grenades, claymore mines, if your s grenadier Vietnam the m-79 and modern day The m203 which both fired 40 mm grenades. The stove pipe 90mm recoilless rifle Vietnam era late 70's hand grenades, flares. Weapon issued ammo. Took as much as you could get. 50 caliber rifles were assigned to csc. Back when I was in they had 2 lb sticks of c-4 and TNT was available. C-4 was easier to work with. 28 lbs of c-4 tapped to a jeep would throw it 40 or 50 feet through the air. People who were 11b10 infantry felt like pack mules. Had to carry sea rats also came in box with cigarettes 4 sticks in a pack. I use to get the smokes from the people who did not smoke.each company had 3 rifle platoons and 1 mortar platoon. The battalion had a csc who were issues the 50 calibers. TOWs rockets. They had vehicles and are platoons who were not combat support company walked everywhere. Sometimes helicopters Huey's brought us to a location and we walked from there or csc transported us on drive and a halfs. We did lots of walking. Many of the infantry at the time we're going mechanized, not us. Spent very little time on APC.
@@drsteelhead7278 and also their sidearm right?
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingForsidearms were issued to soldiers further back like artillery, rifleman just got rifle
What’s your assessment of the M-14? I’ve heard some disparaging things from other veterans.
Just wear like a hundred bandoliers 🤯🤯🤯
Lot of weight to carry lol
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There's a reason infantrymen have fucked up knees
I love you reenactment you make the best announcements in the whole entire world. If I didn’t watch you I wouldn’t have one be in the military when I grow up. Thank you for teaching me a lot about history.
Running out of ammo in-game is tragic enough, imagine the feeling of your heart dropping when you realize you're out of ammo in combat.
If a modern soldier, especially an American one, were to ever run out of ammunition, something has gone _horribly_ wrong.
@@Tank50ushow much ammo does a modern day US soldier take into a combat situation on average??
@@azndrew1 Today? Anywhere from 5 to 10 magazines, plus the one in their rifle. Though some may take more.
A gamer! And you’re comparing yourself to these men?
@@benkelly2190is he though? He is saying it sucks to run out of ammo in a game, but to run out during actual combat is heart stoppingly terrifying.
I see no comparison
I appreciate your channel. It’s very informative and shows how much work you have put in to make these enjoyable videos. Thank you.
JESUS christ up to 200 rounds of 30-06. Those old boys must have been some angry soldiers lmao
Or guys that survived long enough to know better. There is a saying "Ammo is like money, there's never enough when you absolutely need it".
Or as Clint Smith says "I have never heard anyone say they had too much ammunition in a fight".
Never too much ammo, ever. It made sense 80 years ago, it still holds true today.
It just shows how high their testosterone levels were compared to today. Average guy was 5’6” and weighed 140 carrying ammo like it’s going out of style. Now u hear people saying 200 rounds of 5.56 is too much. 😂
@@tufelhunden5795tf does testosterone have to do with it☠️
@@inreallife530 it builds strength. It’s why the average small man back then was stronger than the average bigger man now. The current young men have lower t levels than I do in my mid fifties. Mine, in my twenties, was lower than my grandfathers in his 60’s. We are becoming weaker and something is attacking our T. That all I was getting at. They carried a heavier rifle, heavier ammo and supplies while 3” shorter and 30 pounds lighter.
Now just think about what type of tough S.O.B.s them guys were. The M1 Garand was about a 10lb. rifle. Not exactly sure how heavy 8 rounds in an en bloc clip, but I'm guessing about 8oz., or more. I seem to recall the U.S government phased out the M-14, the upgrade to the M1, because it, and it's 7.62x51mm cartridge were considered too heavy for a soldier to carry, and our boys carried the M1 and as much ammo as they could carry all across Europe, and eventually throughout the Pacific. Damn!... Those guys truly were the greatest, and the toughest, generation! Here's to them🍻 God bless the heroes of WW2.
A soviet soldier with mosin rifle carried 50 rounds in clips + 5 rounds in the rifle. A soldier with AVS-36 or SVT-40 would typically carry 80 rounds on mags +10 rounds, but some soldiers with AVS-36 or full auto modification of SVT-40 (a super rare version issued to one division only, although some soldiers modified their rifles for full auto DIY. DIY full auto versions lost the ability to fire semi-auto) would carry some extra ammo.
To be fair the guys toting a mosin needed extra room to carry a mallet to shoot what they had.
I think that was on the belt 60 each of the ammo packs could hold 3 5rd clips I think they were on paper issued an extra 3 packs of 20 rounds to refill there pouches or to give to the DPM gunner plus before combat if you could you would load 5 into the rifle giving you 65-125 rounds Germans were similar except I think there pouches could hold 20 rounds and the Japanese had 80 in front pouches and 80 in the back pouch the Brits used bandoliers to carry rifle ammo as the belt pouches were for bren gun mags so on paper I think Brits carried 80 in 1 bandolier
The soviets were lucky if they even had a rifle, much less ammo. They were resuppled by stripping the dead and wounded.
@@jonthinks6238 who told you such BS? You might be surprised, but infantry regiments the western military district was almost fully rearmed to semi/full auto rifles by 1941 according to the 04/401 template freely available online. You're can search (04/401 штат советской армии) and see some pictures. Obviously not all the units were rearmed, but rearmament of the western military district was almost completed. Which means that the old rifles were taken away for storage and new were given out. It gives us the rifles given out to the people after the mass mobilization was called up. The amount of mosin rifles produced throughout history is 37 million. 32 of them were produced by the Soviet Union. By 1941 Soviet Union had about 9 million Mosin rifles. The amount of soldiers in the Soviet army on 22nd of June 5,7 million. Apart from rifles soldiers also had machine guns, SMG's, pistols (for officers and commissaries according to 04/401 and 04/751 templates as well as some non combat troops). So if we just arm every soldier with a Mosin rifle, we'll be left with 3.3 million Mosin rifles together with all the other weapon types. Therefore every soldier had at least some weapon and didn't have to loot the dead for ammo unless for emergency circumstances like encirclements, which granted, happened a lot in the beginning of the war.
@@jonthinks6238 That's a myth originating from Nazi propaganda and spread by Hollywood.
The current rifleman’s loadout in the US military is seven 30-round magazines for the M4 Carbine: 210 rounds of 5.56x45 ammo. Some carry triple this.
Did the military switch to all M4's? I carried an M16A2, carrying handle removed with full rail system and various attachments ( red dot, back-up iron sights, flashlight, vertical front handle, etc. ). This was when I went to Iraq in 05-06.
@@tattooedman42yep. Even guard and reserve have the M4 now. The M9 is also gone replaced by the Sig Sauer M17 which is a P320 with manual safety. The M17 is a nice shooting pistol, better than the M9, in my opinion.
@@edmondlau511 Thank you for the update.
Yes sir! I still do to this day. I fill my dump pouch with mags
I was Army, infantry, between 2004 and 2008. The standard was 7, but most of us carried at least 11 mags.
Edit: When we were deployed.
How much does 200 rounds of 30-06 plus clips weigh? I bet several viewers can go to their ammo supply and let all know!
Two 100 round belts of 7.62x51mm NATO weighs 12 pounds. So 200 .30-06 rounds plus the clips should be a little heavier as they’re slightly larger cartridges.
@@PitFriend1maybe 26-28 pounds probably considering that the 30-.06 is larger and you have double the amount
depends my grandfather had some laying around of m2ap black tip steel core rounds which are tool steel bullets that go through a 1inch of steel
@crossfire2045 thats a lotta weight just for ammo damn. At least soldiers back then didnt have to hump the bigass rucksacks todays soldiers use
@@PitFriend1I think 26 pounds 30 if they are in BAR mags
Excellent series! I would love to see more about the daily lives of Soldiers- many people will never understand what these men and women lived through
My dad carried a Thompson throughout the Pacific during WW 2. He said that you could never carry enough ammo or magazines.
When I was rifleman i carried 200 rounds. Back in 76 to 79. When I was a m-60 machine gunner we carried as much as we could varry me and my assisant gunner. Its neen a long time the m60 fired from open bolt position and it was belt fed. If memory does not fail me it was in boxes of 100 rounds in a small box. I would think we carried at least 500 rounds between me and assistant gunner who had to carry and extra barrell and tripod.
Machine Gunner and assistant gunner back than carried wore out 1911 45 acp. Never jammed and throwing a rock is more accurate. I civilian world I owned a Springfield and a few other 45 acp in 1911 and they were accurate. The military 45 we had was WWII issue
In VN selected riflemen each carried a belt o M-60 ammo. In addition the assistant gunner carried at least one can and a couple of belts of 60 ammo. You would hump either a belt of 60 ammo, a claymore or a LAW. Personally I carried 250-300 rounds of 5.56 mm. Never got low on ammo…. Thank God, but if you’re firing at full auto you can burn through it pretty fast.
Ohhh but when I put on my grandpas uniform it's called a hate crime😠
its not a hate crime.
its not a hate crime, anyone that says that might have something wrong in their heads, but yet again, we think differently
@@ANimaturrlul The comment was a joke about presumably wearing a German uniform
good.
@@ordavis that took me a while to realize, lol
Meanwhile these days 7 30 round mags is minimum for a patrol loadout
But I found that was actually about right. We'd sling 1 MAYBE 2 bandoliers...
Yeah because of that reason they switched to 5.56, because it is lighter and you can carry way more ammo. The same ammount of 30-06 would be really heavy.
I read 300 rnds of 30 06 is almost 18 pounds. 300 556 is about 8. Dont know how accurate that is though@@kuessebrama
Someone asked “so how much ammo do you want” the soldier replied “YES”
I also know a guy who’s grandpa would occasionally carry loose unclipped bullets in his pockets as well.
The first rule of the Bayonet is to never run out of ammo!
Bandoliers works for putting ammo on your person but they suck for access.
To all the veterans here thank you for your service
My father carried a Browning Automatic in Germany. He carried 8 mags, 20 rounds each. Each loaded mag weighed 1lb 7oz, so over 8lbs of ammo, then his pack and other things. My father's military registration card had him at 5'6" and weighed 140 lbs. He stripped off the parts that he didn't need and it rifle still weighed around 20 lbs. He carried it until he was shot through both legs in March of 45.
Being a German ww2 soldier and getting hit by a 30-06 round must been terrible
The .30-'06 round is not substantially different in size, weight or power from the German 8mm round used against Allied forces. The 8mm Mauser round is marginally more powerful.
WW2 soldiers seldom fired more than 48 rounds in combat during the entire war. Many, never fired their rifles at all. A very small number of troops did the lion's share of the shooting. An anomaly that continued for decades.
That study was determined to be flawed but it did cause a change in marksmanship training for the US Army.
I do not know about the other branches so I mean no slight.
@@lyntwo - Got a reference for the study? Interesting...
Of course, many soldiers weren't in combat roles where firing their rifle would be expected. An army needs enormous numbers of people in support roles. Drivers, mechanics, cooks, etc. My grandfather never fired his rifle in anger, but that's not surprising given that he was a carpenter. He was with HQ a few miles back from the front line fixing things. If he needed to use his rifle, something was going extremely wrong.
@@thomasdalton1508 My British grandfather spend the whole war on defence in Egypt in a trench whilst tanks fought in the desert. My American grandfather was dropping bombs on Japan and survived, only to die in the Korean war a few years later. Was certainly not fair where you got posted or what would happen to you there.
@@cattysplat Absolutely. You serve how and where the army needs you. My grandfather wanted to be a radio operator, but the army couldn't care less what he wanted. He was more useful to them as a carpenter (since that was what he was trained as in civilian life), so that's what they told him he had to do. War and fairness have nothing to do with each other.
Thank you for another great video!
I applaud your content. I was a huge military gear head as a kid. I see the appeal. Keep at it man.
The TV show COMBAT! frequently showed "Cage" going through 100+ rounds, seemingly never being concerned about running out of ammo.
Shit aint dying if lead aint flying
WW2 Soviets: "...you guys had ammo?"
this guy looks like winters
BoB !!!
Simple straight forward and to the point video. Well done.
I always feel an immense amount of pride seeing the photos of these guys.
bro looking like Steve before becoming captain America
Nice vid again world war wisdom
Most important thing is to make every shot count
What the hell is that supposed to mean? It's not like soldiers put fire on random objects!!
You obviously have NO idea what you are talking about. You are not at the range, you shoot at whatever you think the fire is coming from, and you pray and cuss at the same time.
@@doogleticker5183 It means don't run out of ammo. Because a soldier with no ammo is a defenceless sitting duck waiting to get picked off.
Thanks for keeping alive the greatest generation...RIP grandpa 3rd Army 1942...1945
You NEVER have enough rounds, especially when things get hot…
ask the survivors of the Frozen Chosin or the Ardennes Offensive, aka the Battle of the Bulge if they felt they had enough...
So that's why the max ammo is 240 with the M1 garand in cod big red one!
Not an American so I don’t know a lot about Ammunition weight but how much would 200 hundreds roughly weigh? Like would you feel it?
You would. The .30-06 round weighs roughly 26 grams. That's bullet, case, powder and primer. If you carry 200 of the things that's roughly 5.2 kg of extra weight. Not an extreme amount, but something that is very noticeable.
@@dr.krimson1010 Ah yeah you’d definitely be feeling that weight especially over a distance! Thanks very much for explaining that to me man I appreciate you taking the time🙂
@@davidmurphy8364 imagine being the guy hoarding 1,000 rounds on him absolute unit
A lot
It sucks with the IBA. It is like carrying around a REALLLY FAT BABY.
Imagine being a rifleman in Dday with an M1 and the germans have an 8mm that smokes ur entire squads ammo in 20 seconds
"How much ammo you want?"
"How much you got."
"Yes."
"I'll take it."
Thank you for answering this question for me. I’ve been trying to ask this question For about a decade now, I’m not that old, but I’ve been trying to get this one. Thank you for answering
Bro got an m1 garand and made it his whole personality
i mean if I had a gun I would to
You should dip your dummy rounds in black paint just the tips tho since they mainly used AP 30-06
They were not using AP ammo in WWII. No one was using body armor back then. And no standard small arm is penetrating heavy armor. AP ammo would be useless and cost more
@@CharlieFoxtrot128 they have been producing AP since the early days of M1AP, it had nothing to do with body armour,,price was not an issue for Uncle Sam. It was the preferred round as it could penetrate 20" of oak tree, and as the M2 Ball is a detuned replacement for M1 Ball, it was a flat base 150gn projectile, while the AP projectile is a 163 gn boattail in the M2AP, based on the 173 gn Mm1AP round, and was more accurate, and was later used as the M72 Match ammo..My Grandfather was in the 79th ID, and taught me he had 2 loads for his M1..regular load was 6 rounds M2 Ball, followed by 1 round of tracer, and ending with 1 round of M2AP..the tracer round let him know he had 1 round left, the AP..his other load was 8 rounds of M2AP, M1AP when they could find it..M1 Ball was phased out to M2 Ball, but was still being produced until 1941 or 1942, produced at the Frankfort Arsenal.
The correct answer is as much as they could carry and depending on the mission. Bear in mind a lot of these guys had a farming or labourer background so were already used to physically demanding work before going through their training that made them stronger and tougher.
The average WW2 GI was malnourished and grew up without sufficient caloric intake, usually leading to stunted growth. That's why they were all 5'6 and 140lbs.
carriying lots of ammo was hard,
but running out of ammo while on the battle field was much harder.
He's so young but his passion runs so deep. Keep it up brother
Carrying enough ammo to stay alive is always a top priority for soldiers. Stay prepared!
Ex-combat engineer....But the answer is what you can comfortably carry or feel comfortable with.
Another factor is depending on supply and logistics, sometimes it is best to carry more Cos you never know when the truck is coming if the area is contested.
Always respect for some of the hardest MF'ers that ever lived.. Thank you for your sacrifices men. 🤝🏻
Bros cheering on a bunch of r*peist
Depending on how far away you were to the supply lines & how much fighting you did on the daily was the base rate of what you'd carry.
Then if you were holding a position you'd probably carry more than If you were marching. If you were marching then you would obviously be further away from a supply line and want to carry more, so you would carry as much as you could based on your strength and endurance but not so much that you would get weighed down.
So this answer varies from person to person. But within every platoon or battalion there is always that big guy who could carry a thousand rounds and basically distribute to everyone else. You always want to be near that guy!
In "With the Old Breed," reading how Eugene Sledge kitted himself for the Peleliu landing with a "light load...taking only what was necessary" only for him to make a long list of all the weapons and ammo he was carrying was both funny and chilling.
11-M here. I carried a SAW with 2/200 round drums in the top of my 100 lb assault pack, One on each rear hip and a drum in my weapon, with 6 mags in my LBV ! I wasn't getting caught with my pants down !!!😉
So he would carry as much as he could and be asking for more. Your knowledge always amazed me sir
Yay, you’re back. Every video is awesome. Keep them coming.
This guy definitely stands in front of a mirror and says “oh fuck eyea” and so would I if I had historically accurate garb😂
If you have to defend, you want as much ammo as you can have, if you are not defending, you want about half that.
It depended purely on how much they were supplied and how much thy felt like carrying.
In the early years of the war, Brits, Canadians, Aussies etc., had very, very little ammo, supplies, food, etc. The boys (my dad included) had to make do with very little ammo. It was one of the reasons, they valued and employed accurate fire, very limited burts on full auto etc.
This started as a nice information on WWI and ended as a poorly designed marketing ploy.
Mmm
My grandpa carried the m1 in ww2 in US Army in europe. He loved it !!!! Great Video .
Dang. In Afghanistan I carried a standard 7 mag load (30 rounds each) plus 5 spare mags in my assault pack or rear pack, for about 360 rounds, plus 4 grenades, 4 blocks of c4 with blast kits, 1 claymore mine, and 2 knives.
No side gun?
The correct answer is that they carried enough that they needn't fear running out. Additionally, with everyone using the same round during WW2 (snipers with the 1903, the SAW of the time was the BAR, etc) carrying extra ammo also meant if your friends used up more than expected (or you came to reinforce another unit who had been VERY busy) you wanted to have enough extra to spread some around without leaving yourself out of ammo.
Soviet Union: Vladimir takes Mosin-Nagant with 10 rounds, Yuri takes only 20 rounds. When Vladimir dies, Yuri takes gun: if Yuri dies first, Vladimir takes ammo from his body. This is called sharing of resources comrade Boris
A soldier understands that despite how grueling it is to carry tons of ammo, its gonna be a lot more painful to carry less than a firefight worth
Well you can never have too much ammo especially in a war
And now we discuss logistics !
logistics cost The Confederacy, Napoleon and Hitler their wars
Incredible History
Beautiful Work
Thank You so much Good Man
Thank God for those soldiers who made sure evil never won. Thank you guys for your service. We will never forget
I served 6 years us army infantry, I carried 1,000 rounds on my armor and another 200 round drum on my weapon, as a saw gunner, shit sucked to walk with but it went quick
Thanks for that interesting information. Well done👍🏻
My Dad was a BAR soldier in WW2. He never talked about it. Could anyone tell me what his set up would be? Thanks.
Depends. Usually, a webbing belt that carried twelve magazines. Three pouches on either side. Each pouch carrying two mags. Some guys would wear an extra bandolier or two. Each bandolier would have three pouches of two magazines. For a total of six mags per bandolier. Grand Total of 12 to 24 mags or 240 rnds to 480 rnds. In situations where the BAR Gunners were the only ad hoc weapon support, it was common to pair a rifleman as an Assistant BAR Gunner and load him down with extra BAR mags as well.
Wow that's a Great explanation of the question. Plus the M1 Garand Rifle was then known too be the best infantry Rifle on the Battlefield at that time. Thanks for Sharing.
I served as infantry during the Afghan campaign, I can’t imagine even going out for a patrol with just 80rds.
That would not last long at all. Frightening to think about.
They were doing that whole "when you need ammo, it will be laying around" shit.
I am not going to say they gave a SHIT about us, but they REALLY didn't care about these guys.
Apparently, WWII soldiers had zero muzzle awareness.
It didn't look like gun safety was high on their list. Ammo was more important.
@@pcdoctor48 For sure.