So true. I have seen most other famous actors have a go, but Gantz is just astonishing. Makes him totally believable and human. Total respect for a performance for the ages.
He really went to town with studying how he spoke. He even had that brief Finnish broadcasting recording of him talking normally playing on loop for days on end.
Steiner's units were mostly low strength units and were reinforced with Kreigsmarine sailors, Luftwaffe ground personnel, Hitler Youth and Volksturm, they had small arms, limited heavy equipment and only 12 SA40 French tanks captured in 1940 which were capable tanks in 1940 but by 1945 they were severely outclassed so Steiner seeing his situation as hopeless did not attack and held the line in order to allow civilians to escape west away from the Red Army
A bigger factor was that many of these commanders were war criminals and wanted to save their own skin. Running West was the beat option of all the bad options. For many, it worked out. A lot depended if they committed their crimes in the East, then running West was the answer.
@@doriangray2020He provided important context that students of history may find interesting. You contributed absolutely nothing of value. It wasn't obvious from the clip because it never cut to Steiner's perspective.
It is even better to listen to the actual lines, in German. It is not that a hard accent Bruno Ganz is driving despite Hitler is Austrian and does not speak high-German (something akin to King´s English)
If you study this character a little, you will find that he was the wittiest and sharpest of them all, and with a very fine and intelligent sense of humor. By far, the most interesting one.
@@tewkewl You have a way a too generous and rose tinted view of this and lack an understanding of what the SS were, who they were and what it took to be in the SS. Of course this scene is fictional and the recollection of the real life person in his memoirs are his own. He didn't just fall into the SS or "had to be" as you put it. He chose to join the SS and history during the war was that of a true Nazi and reflective of how heinous members of the SS were. He was no gentleman, nor decent individual, "Wermacht" first. You really need to open your eyes and understand what the SS were, doctor or not.
Couldn't find any corroborating evidence but it seems Hitler might have been playing with toy soldiers imagining he still had all kinds of powerful units in the field with which to fight the Russians. On paper yes. A command center, maybe a brigade, a field hospital. But that is a far cry from something called an army. I know too from my grandfathers account that once the russian tide was seen approaching, most soldiers started retreating west. My own grandfather's unit of conscripted Hungarians shot their German officers. Nobody wanted to be sent to slavery by the russians.
@@TheLunacyofOurTimesI think there's plenty of evidence, I mean, unless all the witnesses in the bunker were lying, but the fact that Hitler was there trying to direct traffic up until the end is completely delusional. If he had any sense about him, he would have tried to surrender by the first of that year, and of course make better decisions about Russia, but that's a whole other topic
One of the most formidable war films ever, should be shown in all classrooms, especially in the USA, where most people talk about Nazis but cannot even pinpoint where Berlin is on the map…
Christian Berkel (The Professor) did a great job of showing his fear of standing up to the general. Watch him as he responds; it’s VERY convincing. He knows that order has fallen apart and he could die at any moment, but he is doing his best to save the people in Berlin. He knows the war is lost, so he doesn’t want anyone to suffer any more.
I love how he’s talking how he should have purged his generals like Stalin did, although his initial invasion of Russia wouldn’t have been as successful as it did had Stalin not purged
@@cognitivedisability9864 this is a common myth. He (the painter) wanted to put the primary focus into the southern front where the oil fields of the caucuses were (Baku) while the Heer wanted to focus on Moscow. Strategically and operationally speaking the painter was correct in this aspect as it was oil that the Germans really needed to keep their war machine going. And secondly in the citadel operation (battle of Kursk) the painter very much so was against this and wanted to cancel it very early on. He even stated “every time I think of citadel I feel like getting sick”. So if the painter has absolute control over decisions (like you insinuate) then both A; the main thrust would’ve been south instead of center and the war may be different entirely, and B; the battle of Kursk never happens meaning that the last German major offensive operation isn’t committed to a single point that was heavily defended. Long sorry short, the painter was a genocidal maniac, but he wasent a complete idiot who just so happened to have complete control over the German Wehrmacht. This has long been debunked.
Bruno Ganz never got any recognition from the Oscars, never nominated and he gave the best acting performance that year by far, truly one of the great acting performances ever.
The combined total (for the city's defense) of Generalmajor Mohnke's SS Kampfgruppe, General Weidling's LVI Panzer Corps (and the other few units) totaled roughly 46,000 soldiers and undertrained 40,000 Volkssturm. The combined defensive force of 86,000 faced a far superior number of Soviet Red Army soldiers. Stalin had approximately 1.25 Million Soviet veteran troops allocated for the investment, assault and capture on the Berlin Defence Area. 86K VS 1.25 Million are not very sporting odds.
Its surprising that they even managed to hold for so long almost without equipment, weapons , ammo ,medical suplies ,fuel etc. against well experienced soviet troops with tanks , airforce , artilery .....
@@tmartin34no it really isn’t. The Soviets took their time, and the Allie’s had allowed them to do that even more so by stating they would let the Soviets handle Berlin. They knew the Germans were finished and simply chipped away at them until they finally surrounded the citadel (zitadel/ zone 0st). If anything it was impressive how much restraint the Soviets showed (in comparison) to other attacks they commited to through out the war.
I don’t know if the talk between the generals and Hitler actually happened, but it’s really ballsy and brave for that one general to stand up to Hitler and tell him he’s wrong to insult the soldiers who are defending Germany, paying for Hitler’s decisions.
Brave? Brave generals and officers would have stood up to him earlier, firmer and would have done so together, instead of muttering disagreement, letting themselves be played out against each other and then be bribed off, as most of them were. It is bitter irony that most of their bribes, consisting of lands, property and luxury housing mostly in lands east of Berlin (Poland, Ukraine, Belarus and the eastern parts of Germany) were now firmly in Soviet hands, thus leaving them with little to lose. Brave? Maybe, in other times. The only really brave ones, had already been killed off after Walküre had failed; those were the least remaining brave officers in the entire Reich. All others, especially after Walküre had failed, were nothing but cowardly henchmen.
That statement needs a discussion. That one general or any of Hitler's generals are way way late for standing up to Hitler. Once the Battle of Stalingrad turned in the Soviet's favor the war was basically over and any German general who had any common sense had to know this .
@@mikekaroules2820 The Germans lost the war long before Stalingrad, since the reason why that operation failed was attached to the almost complete lack of logistics and supplies, therefore the entire army ran out of bullets, medicine and more importantly lines of evacuation. The constant bombings by the RAF and Air Corps (later Air Force)... when they got their shit together after many catastrophes due to their broken military chain, was the real reason behind the collapse. Once the Allies had an aim to the refineries, oil production, factories and dams, it was over. Stalingrad was just a demonstration in how broken the entire Wehrmacht already was. But if we wanted to be more generous, we could say that when the Soviets obliterated Army Group Center... that was the end for any defense in Germany since that group was the super majority of the combined armed forces that would be required to even try to hold the Soviets back... and they got erased in one brutal, and quite ingenious, operation.
@@Keizerdraak how many generals and officers stood up against Truman when america dropped nukes on japan and how many generals and officers stood up against stalin when he invaded poland and finland and when red army committed mass rapes in Germany???
The oil fields he refers to are those in Hungary that were lost a few months earlier. In March of 45, the Germans launched Operation Spring Awakening in order to recover Budapest and the Hungarian oil fields. But the offensive petered out after a few days.
@@luvslogistics1725 Romania was their main source of oil. But they also relied on oil from Hungary. Once Romania switched sides in August of 1944, Hungary was really the only place from which they could get oil. But the Soviets seized the Hungarian fields in late March/early April.
One of the great ironies was Germany was still sitting on one of the largest oil deposits in the world in 1945, just off the coast of still-occupied Norway. But they had no way of knowing about it or extract it.
While you are correct, loosing the Ruhr and Silesia hardly mattrered anymore at that point. Between chronic lack of raw materierals and allied strategic bombardment, the war was long, long over.
@ObamaFromKenya Exactly. That's the moment when victory got far away. If Fall Blau would have succeeded, who know's, but the failure on Moscow's gates took the Reich on the long way to total defeat. After the Battle of Kursk it was really obvious. Although I would argue the critical moment wasn't the battle for Moscow, but the failed battle for Britain. With the isles under control, the Reich could use all it's forces in the east, supplies to the Sowjets were lower and even when it turns bad, there would never be a D-Day. The Allies could cross the English Channel, but they couldn't cross the whole Atlantic with a force strong enough for an invasion. So, the Reich could fight with full power in the east for all the time and with all of Europe under control, it's economic power would outmatch the Sowiets and US supplies wouldn't be enough to equal this.
@@sinusspass1998 Uhhh... The Allies would have just marched up Italy and southern France to gain western Europe. The Italians had ONE job, and that was to secure the Mediteranian and the "Soft Underbelly of the Reich" as Churchill called it, and they couldn't even do that. And do you think that Great Britain would have just rolled over even after a German invaision would have taken a foothold? How many German Armies would have been tied up occuping a pissed off British population? The Germans should have never worried about Moscow and instead drove straight for the southeast. Oil and cutting off the Volga should have priority one. But this is all moot as Germany was already short of everything by Sept.1 1939. No way could they fight a war of attrition with the west, only if the USA and Canada would have stayed out of the fight, and the farther they reached into the USSR the more the Axis supply lines were steatched. Stalin would have drawn Hitler into a rope-a-dope situation and sat back at the Urals. Then the Soviets could counterpunch and drain the Germans white. As TIK says the Germans had very little acces to oil, and oil literally fueled the second world war. The Nazi's were living in fantasy land, aided by the early success of 39-41 that had more to do with luck and post WWI malaise than anything.
@ObamaFromKenya Capturing Moscow wouldn't have allowed the Germans to avoid defeat anyway. Germany was always going to lose the war, any potential 'what if' scenarios that change that outcome are so far from what was realistically possible for Germany that they aren't even worth discussing really because you aren't talking about alternate history at that point, you're talking about a completely fictional timeline.
@@sinusspass1998Fall Blau wouldn't have changed anything, Germany loses the war in every realistic scenario of the war playing out. No invading of Britain or capturing of Moscow would've changed the outcome of the war my guy. You really think a liberation of Europe would not have happened if Britain was conquered? That's laughable. And the scenario of Britain being invaded or the Germans being successful in the East are scenarios so far from what Germany could've realistically achieved that you aren't even talking about alternate History anymore, you're talking about a fundamentally different war and a timeline that is nothing but fantasy and fiction.
@@badbotchdown9845Steiner was one of the people who build up the Waffen-SS. In 1945 he was a corps commander during the fighting in Pomerania, his command was then upgraded to an army and the army group (not exactly by adding combat capable units).
There’s a video I’m sure you would find it and it’s the Hitler actor Bruno Gana talking about those parodies and saying although they’re funny he put a lot into the roles and he talks of walking down the street and a woman recognised him and asked could she take a photo of him as her son was sick and Hitler would cheer him up.
Bruno Gana made a very great work here, this together with those historic recordings, making up a reasonably portrait of Hitler to the 21st century Public
I remember being very surprised when I heard that the great actor Bruno Ganz would be playing Hitler, but what surprised me even more was how perfect he was in the role.
You know why. They’re ascendant in Germany again. And here in the USA, we have the tangerine Führer, who just promised to end all elections. All humanity does is the same thing, over and over again.
I find it slightly hilarious that with the paper scattered all around, there's just no way they can comprehensively make sure it's all destroyed. It's also funny how they kept records so well, assuming they would win.
It always gets me that everyone salutes the moustache by standing ramrod stiff with their arm held high, but when he salutes back he just flops his hand over his shoulder like he's tossing away a piece of trash and doesn't give a tin shit about littering. I've seen it in actual footage and in accurate portrayals like this one. What a douchebag.
The relationship between the people and its leader was very one-sided. While he was almost seen as an holy saviour, he in return thought of the people as little more than just the means to an end.
@@shrouddreamerand in the end he was content to let the German people be destroyed bc he couldn’t face his own failures as a leader. He did say before he invaded Poland that he would come back victorious or come back dead, something to that effect. The man couldn’t even live with the fact that he’d gambled the German people and their regime on a war that may have been lost from the beginning, a war that saw him make the same mistakes as the people who preceded him did.
Stiner's forces were low on food,ammunition and gas. The reenforcements he recived were 14 year old boys,he immediately sent them home. He did not attack
@@bloodygekkonthe 1940s were the years they were fighting in mate, unless you mean 30s. Although I must say, I sense a hint of odd justification/coping. Hard to tell
Not to sound like I’m defending Hitler but I’m sure if Stalin or Churchill were surrounded with the enemy coming to kill them after years of failures they wouldn’t be thinking with a straight mind either. He was evil but I do not think he wasn’t an intelligent man, he didn’t just stumble into power.
Amazing. I can understand a lot of the German words as they're the same or similar to Afrikaans, my 2nd language I mostly use passively as a listener. Modern English is very different. Hated Afrikaans lessons, but grateful decades later as it makes Germanic languages much easier to understand for an English speaker.
Der Untergang is not a film. It is simply one cool scene after another - a combination which comes together to form a coherent picture of a dictator in his final days; weak, scared, a pale shadow of his past. It is a story of a city going through an incredible ordeal, and people trying to belong somewhere again - whether in life or death. And all of this is portrayed with a sublime level of acting, direction and score.
@@mikekaroules2820many of them did months before this, but of course we only have pieces of what was written down, and of course we will probably never know what wasn't written down.
I am curious why Hitler ordered Keitel to leave Berlin. Everything he told him about oil fields seems like a convenient excuse to get him to leave, and Keitel seems to understand the memo and doesn't question the bonkers ideas.
I don't think this is meant to be an excuse for him. Imo his scene should portray how delusional Hitler was at this point, shorty after the "rage/mental breakdown" before. He was sitting in his room and made up scenarios in his head - pretty much escaping the reality in his mind , almost being insane- and then he came up with fantasic ideas - completly out of mind and unrealistic- As shown in the mimics of Keitel, at first he is like WTF, but then understands that Hitler is not logical/sane anymore at this moment and just accepts his "proposal"
@@dankboydopeness3196exactly what I thought when I rewatched this, I'm like okay. First he asks what? And then he's like, okay whatever lol. Also hilarious and sad how Goebbels just spouts BS in front of the generals.
Don’t you love it when a dictator goes down the pan what a great actor this guy is best portrayal of AH ever many have tried even the great Charlie Chaplin but this fellow is tops.
I think in his rage he was thinking about his trench misery in the first world war. He was to traumatized to see things for what they were. He was already without emotions and this didnt help them in the end. Lucky for us but at to high a cost and it forever changed our family history even if we were not even involved.
8:00 guy is so far gone hes rambling about taking back the romanian oil fields when they dont even have enough forces left to push the soviets out of the capital city i like how the general sorta realizes that and doesnt even ask any questions like just let me get the heck out of here lol
Interessting Point , Goebbels said : " ich mache Kippe! ( 50/50) " Kippe is typical rotwelsch also known as criminal Idiom. This is important, because Geobbels was a salesman for several things like fuel and had a wide varity of personal expirience.
Bruno Ganz made an outstanding performance playing the role of Adolf Hitler. Listening the dialogue in german even knowing that is a movie, i got chills down my spine. The blind rage against the reason. And the actors that co-starred in this movie were great. A piece of history that should be conserved for the new generations to avoid another blood bath as WWII was for all mankind.
Poor Trump is throwing ketchup against the walls. What's hilarious is that even if Trump manages to win, he is already a deranged empty suit, so Shady and Congress will effectively be running the government. And Shady already said he hates Trump so that's a win for us Democrats.
Гитлер наверное один из самых удивительных персонажей мировой истории. В начале 20х никому не известный рядовой чин, чужак австриец, ходивший по пивным барам, в 30х канцлер Германии, в 40х поставивший на колени всю европу. Германия при нем реально возродилась из пепла, поднявшись на небывалую высоту, что бы при нем же превратится обратно в пепел. Уважаемые немцы, а может Фашизм, это то что вам наиболее ментально подходит? Пишу как внук русского солдата, разбивший лучшую армию мира, и закончивший войну в Вене. А фильм блестящий.
I have this movie and it was excellent . I did read a book years ago called Hitler The Last 10 days very good . I grew up with neighbors who lived it in Germany he was west of Stalingrad when it was encircled. If he talked it was not often but you listen.
DAS WAR EIN BEFEHL!!
„Austrinken! Führerbefehl"
Der Angriff Steiners war ein Befehl!!
Only General Wilhelm Burgdorf had the courage to contradict Hitler. A man with balls of steel. 😅
@@FelixKokswatch,what look/eye contact he gets from (La)Keitel after that😳😉
Damn Steiner ... you had one job
Bruno Gamz , what an excellent actor he was...in my opinion this was the best portrayal of Hitler ever in Film history
Absolutely. He ruined all other Hitler films basically - because noone else comes close to him.
So true. I have seen most other famous actors have a go, but Gantz is just astonishing. Makes him totally believable and human. Total respect for a performance for the ages.
He really went to town with studying how he spoke. He even had that brief Finnish broadcasting recording of him talking normally playing on loop for days on end.
No one since or in the future will top his portrayal
To me he really is Hitler, I can empathise with him in the downfall.
Steiner's units were mostly low strength units and were reinforced with Kreigsmarine sailors, Luftwaffe ground personnel, Hitler Youth and Volksturm, they had small arms, limited heavy equipment and only 12 SA40 French tanks captured in 1940 which were capable tanks in 1940 but by 1945 they were severely outclassed so Steiner seeing his situation as hopeless did not attack and held the line in order to allow civilians to escape west away from the Red Army
Disobeying Hitler’s orders tut tut
A bigger factor was that many of these commanders were war criminals and wanted to save their own skin. Running West was the beat option of all the bad options. For many, it worked out. A lot depended if they committed their crimes in the East, then running West was the answer.
“How dare he disobey a command from me!”
- Hitler
Thanks captain obvious
@@doriangray2020He provided important context that students of history may find interesting. You contributed absolutely nothing of value. It wasn't obvious from the clip because it never cut to Steiner's perspective.
It's funny seeing the actual translation and not Hitler rants parodies version
It is even better to listen to the actual lines, in German. It is not that a hard accent Bruno Ganz is driving despite Hitler is Austrian and does not speak high-German (something akin to King´s English)
After so many parodies it is difficult to seriously take this magnificent scene.
It's even worse if you know the "if you break yer legs, it's hard to cook orangutan" line at 6:24
Das ist witzig für sie
When you’ve seen so many parodies that the original translation becomes even funnier.
Ulrich Matthes does a scarily good job of portraying Jospeh Goebbels. He's got that batshit crazy look of the true fanatic in his eyes.
The dude looks crazy
Is he wearing a mask?
@@rul1175No, he looks like that.
If you study this character a little, you will find that he was the wittiest and sharpest of them all, and with a very fine and intelligent sense of humor. By far, the most interesting one.
He is a damn ghoul rather than a man
"...but as a doctor I belong to the Wermacht, and we are still here!"
Outstanding professionalism.
He was still an SS officer.
@@ed9121 not all SS were evil
@@ed9121so?
@@ed9121 anyone who was in the high government had to be. but you can clearly see that he was more wermacht than SS. he was after all a doctor.
@@tewkewl You have a way a too generous and rose tinted view of this and lack an understanding of what the SS were, who they were and what it took to be in the SS. Of course this scene is fictional and the recollection of the real life person in his memoirs are his own.
He didn't just fall into the SS or "had to be" as you put it. He chose to join the SS and history during the war was that of a true Nazi and reflective of how heinous members of the SS were.
He was no gentleman, nor decent individual, "Wermacht" first. You really need to open your eyes and understand what the SS were, doctor or not.
Adolf seems to have mixed up Steiner with Gandalf.
Gandalf would have said: "No."
You mean Godzilla?
@@paulhoffmann4521 might as well be
Couldn't find any corroborating evidence but it seems Hitler might have been playing with toy soldiers imagining he still had all kinds of powerful units in the field with which to fight the Russians. On paper yes. A command center, maybe a brigade, a field hospital. But that is a far cry from something called an army.
I know too from my grandfathers account that once the russian tide was seen approaching, most soldiers started retreating west.
My own grandfather's unit of conscripted Hungarians shot their German officers. Nobody wanted to be sent to slavery by the russians.
@@TheLunacyofOurTimesI think there's plenty of evidence, I mean, unless all the witnesses in the bunker were lying, but the fact that Hitler was there trying to direct traffic up until the end is completely delusional. If he had any sense about him, he would have tried to surrender by the first of that year, and of course make better decisions about Russia, but that's a whole other topic
Downfall is an amazing film
Have you read Berlin, by Antony beevor? It’s a great read as well, showing too the Soviet side too.
no is a sad film.
@@derblitz5837amazing and sad
German war films have zero romance and zero BS. They tell it like it was. Downfall is among the best if not the best.
One of the most formidable war films ever, should be shown in all classrooms, especially in the USA, where most people talk about Nazis but cannot even pinpoint where Berlin is on the map…
Christian Berkel (The Professor) did a great job of showing his fear of standing up to the general. Watch him as he responds; it’s VERY convincing. He knows that order has fallen apart and he could die at any moment, but he is doing his best to save the people in Berlin. He knows the war is lost, so he doesn’t want anyone to suffer any more.
I love how he’s talking how he should have purged his generals like Stalin did, although his initial invasion of Russia wouldn’t have been as successful as it did had Stalin not purged
My thoughts EXACTLY when he stated that. Come to think most of the German success early on really happened because of Stalins interference
@@eddiemoran8044 and alot of the germans failing came from the austrian painter trying to micro manage everything
@@cognitivedisability9864 this is a common myth. He (the painter) wanted to put the primary focus into the southern front where the oil fields of the caucuses were (Baku) while the Heer wanted to focus on Moscow. Strategically and operationally speaking the painter was correct in this aspect as it was oil that the Germans really needed to keep their war machine going. And secondly in the citadel operation (battle of Kursk) the painter very much so was against this and wanted to cancel it very early on. He even stated “every time I think of citadel I feel like getting sick”. So if the painter has absolute control over decisions (like you insinuate) then both A; the main thrust would’ve been south instead of center and the war may be different entirely, and B; the battle of Kursk never happens meaning that the last German major offensive operation isn’t committed to a single point that was heavily defended. Long sorry short, the painter was a genocidal maniac, but he wasent a complete idiot who just so happened to have complete control over the German Wehrmacht. This has long been debunked.
@@eddiemoran8044 Eh, Reptilian or mind-controlled, Morell's intoxication helped either way for the "allies".
@@DutchGuyMike I have no idea who or what you are talking about
6:24 “If you break your legs, it’s hard to cook orangutan”
LOL!!!
If you close your eyes you can really hear it.
Thanks for the laugh.
I can’t unhear it now
hahaha...sharp!
It's also true!
How in the world did you come up with that. But I can actually hear it well done lol
Bruno Ganz never got any recognition from the Oscars, never nominated and he gave the best acting performance that year by far, truly one of the great acting performances ever.
Not that weird.. you know who runs the oscars?
The combined total (for the city's defense) of Generalmajor Mohnke's SS Kampfgruppe, General Weidling's LVI Panzer Corps (and the other few units) totaled roughly 46,000 soldiers and undertrained 40,000 Volkssturm. The combined defensive force of 86,000 faced a far superior number of Soviet Red Army soldiers. Stalin had approximately 1.25 Million Soviet veteran troops allocated for the investment, assault and capture on the Berlin Defence Area.
86K VS 1.25 Million are not very sporting odds.
Its surprising that they even managed to hold for so long almost without equipment, weapons , ammo ,medical suplies ,fuel etc. against well experienced soviet troops with tanks , airforce , artilery .....
@@tmartin34no it really isn’t. The Soviets took their time, and the Allie’s had allowed them to do that even more so by stating they would let the Soviets handle Berlin. They knew the Germans were finished and simply chipped away at them until they finally surrounded the citadel (zitadel/ zone 0st). If anything it was impressive how much restraint the Soviets showed (in comparison) to other attacks they commited to through out the war.
“Arithmetic knows no mercy”- Mark Antony
Including over 5000 battle tanks !
AND the soviet artillery.....
7:33
“Under these circumstances, I am no longer able to lead.”
“ With respect, Mein Fuerher, that ship sailed some time ago.”
I don’t know if the talk between the generals and Hitler actually happened, but it’s really ballsy and brave for that one general to stand up to Hitler and tell him he’s wrong to insult the soldiers who are defending Germany, paying for Hitler’s decisions.
Brave? Brave generals and officers would have stood up to him earlier, firmer and would have done so together, instead of muttering disagreement, letting themselves be played out against each other and then be bribed off, as most of them were. It is bitter irony that most of their bribes, consisting of lands, property and luxury housing mostly in lands east of Berlin (Poland, Ukraine, Belarus and the eastern parts of Germany) were now firmly in Soviet hands, thus leaving them with little to lose.
Brave? Maybe, in other times. The only really brave ones, had already been killed off after Walküre had failed; those were the least remaining brave officers in the entire Reich. All others, especially after Walküre had failed, were nothing but cowardly henchmen.
Agreed, as a combat veteran himself, he should have had more respect for the common soldiers and it shows how out of touch he was at that point.
That statement needs a discussion. That one general or any of Hitler's generals are way way late for standing up to Hitler. Once the Battle of Stalingrad turned in the Soviet's favor the war was basically over and any German general who had any common sense had to know this .
@@mikekaroules2820 The Germans lost the war long before Stalingrad, since the reason why that operation failed was attached to the almost complete lack of logistics and supplies, therefore the entire army ran out of bullets, medicine and more importantly lines of evacuation. The constant bombings by the RAF and Air Corps (later Air Force)... when they got their shit together after many catastrophes due to their broken military chain, was the real reason behind the collapse.
Once the Allies had an aim to the refineries, oil production, factories and dams, it was over. Stalingrad was just a demonstration in how broken the entire Wehrmacht already was.
But if we wanted to be more generous, we could say that when the Soviets obliterated Army Group Center... that was the end for any defense in Germany since that group was the super majority of the combined armed forces that would be required to even try to hold the Soviets back... and they got erased in one brutal, and quite ingenious, operation.
@@Keizerdraak how many generals and officers stood up against Truman when america dropped nukes on japan and how many generals and officers stood up against stalin when he invaded poland and finland and when red army committed mass rapes in Germany???
The oil fields he refers to are those in Hungary that were lost a few months earlier. In March of 45, the Germans launched Operation Spring Awakening in order to recover Budapest and the Hungarian oil fields. But the offensive petered out after a few days.
Oil fields in Romania?
@@luvslogistics1725 He was looking at Bukarest which is Romania and even further away then Hungary lol
@@luvslogistics1725 Romania was their main source of oil. But they also relied on oil from Hungary. Once Romania switched sides in August of 1944, Hungary was really the only place from which they could get oil. But the Soviets seized the Hungarian fields in late March/early April.
One of the great ironies was Germany was still sitting on one of the largest oil deposits in the world in 1945, just off the coast of still-occupied Norway. But they had no way of knowing about it or extract it.
@@luxborealis There wasn't the technology to extract it back then. You might as well told them to build a base on the moon.
Once Silesia fell Germany lost much of it’s industry, then the Ruhr too. Without industry they couldn’t last.
While you are correct, loosing the Ruhr and Silesia hardly mattrered anymore at that point. Between chronic lack of raw materierals and allied strategic bombardment, the war was long, long over.
@ObamaFromKenya Exactly. That's the moment when victory got far away. If Fall Blau would have succeeded, who know's, but the failure on Moscow's gates took the Reich on the long way to total defeat. After the Battle of Kursk it was really obvious.
Although I would argue the critical moment wasn't the battle for Moscow, but the failed battle for Britain. With the isles under control, the Reich could use all it's forces in the east, supplies to the Sowjets were lower and even when it turns bad, there would never be a D-Day. The Allies could cross the English Channel, but they couldn't cross the whole Atlantic with a force strong enough for an invasion. So, the Reich could fight with full power in the east for all the time and with all of Europe under control, it's economic power would outmatch the Sowiets and US supplies wouldn't be enough to equal this.
@@sinusspass1998 Uhhh... The Allies would have just marched up Italy and southern France to gain western Europe. The Italians had ONE job, and that was to secure the Mediteranian and the "Soft Underbelly of the Reich" as Churchill called it, and they couldn't even do that. And do you think that Great Britain would have just rolled over even after a German invaision would have taken a foothold? How many German Armies would have been tied up occuping a pissed off British population? The Germans should have never worried about Moscow and instead drove straight for the southeast. Oil and cutting off the Volga should have priority one. But this is all moot as Germany was already short of everything by Sept.1 1939. No way could they fight a war of attrition with the west, only if the USA and Canada would have stayed out of the fight, and the farther they reached into the USSR the more the Axis supply lines were steatched. Stalin would have drawn Hitler into a rope-a-dope situation and sat back at the Urals. Then the Soviets could counterpunch and drain the Germans white. As TIK says the Germans had very little acces to oil, and oil literally fueled the second world war. The Nazi's were living in fantasy land, aided by the early success of 39-41 that had more to do with luck and post WWI malaise than anything.
@ObamaFromKenya Capturing Moscow wouldn't have allowed the Germans to avoid defeat anyway.
Germany was always going to lose the war, any potential 'what if' scenarios that change that outcome are so far from what was realistically possible for Germany that they aren't even worth discussing really because you aren't talking about alternate history at that point, you're talking about a completely fictional timeline.
@@sinusspass1998Fall Blau wouldn't have changed anything, Germany loses the war in every realistic scenario of the war playing out.
No invading of Britain or capturing of Moscow would've changed the outcome of the war my guy. You really think a liberation of Europe would not have happened if Britain was conquered? That's laughable.
And the scenario of Britain being invaded or the Germans being successful in the East are scenarios so far from what Germany could've realistically achieved that you aren't even talking about alternate History anymore, you're talking about a fundamentally different war and a timeline that is nothing but fantasy and fiction.
Steiner: most famous minor German officer in history.
In the Alec Guinness movie, in the ‘70’s, Steiner was also mentioned.
Minor general he was general leutenant =ss gruppenfuehrer
@@badbotchdown9845Steiner was one of the people who build up the Waffen-SS. In 1945 he was a corps commander during the fighting in Pomerania, his command was then upgraded to an army and the army group (not exactly by adding combat capable units).
Last time I watched the movie i skipped the steiner attack fail as I could not take it serious because of the parodies
I didn't know they made a version without the funny titles! But this one was pretty funny too.
this is the original translated "downfall"
There’s a video I’m sure you would find it and it’s the Hitler actor Bruno Gana talking about those parodies and saying although they’re funny he put a lot into the roles and he talks of walking down the street and a woman recognised him and asked could she take a photo of him as her son was sick and Hitler would cheer him up.
Bruno Gana made a very great work here, this together with those historic recordings, making up a reasonably portrait of Hitler to the 21st century Public
@@alexbowman7582 There is even a video of the interview with Bruno Ganz, and it is fake-dubbed. Layers within layers and 3rd lvl funny.
@@alexbowman7582 Bro you fell for a parody... The subtitles in that video are not real. Use your head a little
I remember being very surprised when I heard that the great actor Bruno Ganz would be playing Hitler, but what surprised me even more was how perfect he was in the role.
This was uploaded a year ago, why did the algorithm bring us all here now? 😂
You know why. They’re ascendant in Germany again. And here in the USA, we have the tangerine Führer, who just promised to end all elections. All humanity does is the same thing, over and over again.
Surely is a mysterious hand behind this, there is no other explanation
Why are you here.First time seeing it.
it just does
Funny that!
0:10 when I die and my boys burn all my questionable stuff
And delete the history on my computer.
I find it slightly hilarious that with the paper scattered all around, there's just no way they can comprehensively make sure it's all destroyed. It's also funny how they kept records so well, assuming they would win.
"If you break your legs its hard to cook orangutan" 6:20
ah monke
As a german I cant hear it xD
Fatbangers! is Hitler watching some kind of German hard porn!!!?
I cant belive how relatively recent this was. The world was an insane place
Steiner didn't have the makings of a varsity athlete.😅
Steiner should have told Hitler to get his shine box.
Hahahahaa 😅
Stop saying that!! You said that in front of my cousins when I was a kid. It was very hurtful.
@@kellykiser7600 Lol!!
He very much did. Despite being Waffen SS he is taught to this day in Westpoint as an example of a model General officer
It always gets me that everyone salutes the moustache by standing ramrod stiff with their arm held high, but when he salutes back he just flops his hand over his shoulder like he's tossing away a piece of trash and doesn't give a tin shit about littering. I've seen it in actual footage and in accurate portrayals like this one. What a douchebag.
Because he is recieving as a superiorer, you wouldnt understand
The relationship between the people and its leader was very one-sided. While he was almost seen as an holy saviour, he in return thought of the people as little more than just the means to an end.
@@shrouddreamerand in the end he was content to let the German people be destroyed bc he couldn’t face his own failures as a leader. He did say before he invaded Poland that he would come back victorious or come back dead, something to that effect. The man couldn’t even live with the fact that he’d gambled the German people and their regime on a war that may have been lost from the beginning, a war that saw him make the same mistakes as the people who preceded him did.
@@Notimportant3737 Yeah, he was like Zelensky
@@einfachignorieren6156Yes, a superior douchebag.
Der Göring guckt immer auf die Uhr….und hat sich rechtzeitig verabshiedet! 😎😂👍🏽
Und?
@DeborishiGanguly Hätte ich auch getan? Und du?
Stayed to the bitter end I suppose?
Und?
He was hungry.
😮
Never truer words spoken, years spent at a military academy to learn how to hold a knife and fork.
West Point?
West point?
It is in a way hilarious that they actually do teach that. The stereotype is true.
I like how they adapted this to Hitler. I saw the original downfall just a few days ago.
"I conquered the whole of Europe by myself!"
...What's your name? Duke Nukem? The only person you ever shot was yourself.
Cry silently, my Jewish friend.
@@herrlich1461 I'm neither crying, silent, Jewish or your friend.
Well actually I do not like Hitler but he would have probably shot someone during his service in WW1
He was a soldier in WWI who fought for multiple years. He had shot the enemy before.
Such a fantastic movie, it gives a flavour of what the bunker would have been like, utterly grim with death just round the corner.
Allein die Uniform ist hervorragend und eine Augenweide.
An army is supposed to fight, not to win prizes on the catwalk.
@@shrouddreamerAnd they fought, brother. We embrace Communism, but they fought it.
@@herrlich1461 First, I'm not your brother. Second, how the hell do you get from military uniforms to current day politics!?
Stiner's forces were low on food,ammunition and gas. The reenforcements he recived were 14 year old boys,he immediately sent them home. He did not attack
And they didnt had a tanks. Only old shit from 1940s
@@bloodygekkonthe 1940s were the years they were fighting in mate, unless you mean 30s. Although I must say, I sense a hint of odd justification/coping. Hard to tell
@@shiba204 so, old french tanks from 1930 were modern at that time?
@@bloodygekkon again, you said 40s
@@shiba204 so, tell me, what kind of tanks Steiner had for counterattack?
4:50....here we go...brace yourselves...
It's like they only just realized he was a complete idiot.
Not to sound like I’m defending Hitler but I’m sure if Stalin or Churchill were surrounded with the enemy coming to kill them after years of failures they wouldn’t be thinking with a straight mind either. He was evil but I do not think he wasn’t an intelligent man, he didn’t just stumble into power.
Mmm, he had far too much control over his military. If he let his commanders do their objectives it would have ended very differently.
@@Scrunchymageno, its disproven
He saw the end of germany, a nation he loved, die before him under his command.
Alot of strong men would break
@@Scrunchymage He caused many successful operations, but also caused the failure of many others
Legend has it, that if one passes where the Führerbunker is located, one can still hear the screams for Steiner and Fegelein.
It's hard to attack when you are too busy trying to defend yourself against an overwhelming offensive
Hitler trying to continue to fight a war with troops that were long gone by this time.
Amazing. I can understand a lot of the German words as they're the same or similar to Afrikaans, my 2nd language I mostly use passively as a listener. Modern English is very different. Hated Afrikaans lessons, but grateful decades later as it makes Germanic languages much easier to understand for an English speaker.
POV: You co-op HOI4 with someone who takes it too seriously.
The scene where Hitler goes off about the failure of Steiner's attack. I can see Trump reacting like this in a similar situation lol.
“Suckers and losers” sounds like something you hear the main character of this movie say.
How is it to live in this little fantasy world of yours?
Trump Derangement Symptom much? Remember Trump was in office as POTUS for 4 years already and NEVER did anything you smugly pretend he did.
I have a General's collar tab from WW2 Germany.
They came burning books, they gone burning books.
Der Untergang is not a film. It is simply one cool scene after another - a combination which comes together to form a coherent picture of a dictator in his final days; weak, scared, a pale shadow of his past. It is a story of a city going through an incredible ordeal, and people trying to belong somewhere again - whether in life or death. And all of this is portrayed with a sublime level of acting, direction and score.
I’ve seen this movie so many times I can now watch it without the subtitles.
-You saved me, why?
- 3:25
Ah yes, SS Doctors, well known for their bedside manners and their humanity /s
Theyre eating the pets!
Ask Blondie.
giggle
Adolph wasn't orange
And the horses
Fake news, Trump propaganda!
@parrypierson9732 "I understood that reference!" ~ PFC David Kenyon Webster, probably. 😉
Keitel:
“Hello, Admiral! Comradely greetings from the Fuerher. Say, isn’t that the Danish border over there?”
“ We invaded them? Rats.”
If your an officer at this point you must be thinking I've got to get the fuck out of here.
My thoughts exactly. Even way before Hitler said " the war is lost " I would be brainstorming my brains out to make my escape West.
@@mikekaroules2820many of them did months before this, but of course we only have pieces of what was written down, and of course we will probably never know what wasn't written down.
The Japanese upper-command during WW2 didn't bother about food for their soldiers.They had to find it themselves.
Eating people.
Wait, this was a MOVIE?! I thought it was just a series of unending memes.
LoL. you soo young... :)
I am curious why Hitler ordered Keitel to leave Berlin. Everything he told him about oil fields seems like a convenient excuse to get him to leave, and Keitel seems to understand the memo and doesn't question the bonkers ideas.
I don't think this is meant to be an excuse for him. Imo his scene should portray how delusional Hitler was at this point, shorty after the "rage/mental breakdown" before. He was sitting in his room and made up scenarios in his head - pretty much escaping the reality in his mind , almost being insane- and then he came up with fantasic ideas - completly out of mind and unrealistic- As shown in the mimics of Keitel, at first he is like WTF, but then understands that Hitler is not logical/sane anymore at this moment and just accepts his "proposal"
@@dankboydopeness3196exactly what I thought when I rewatched this, I'm like okay. First he asks what? And then he's like, okay whatever lol.
Also hilarious and sad how Goebbels just spouts BS in front of the generals.
@@dankboydopeness3196A madman would try to convince you, here he just gave a vague explanation, I think OP is correct for that scene.
I think we have all had a boss like him
Don’t you love it when a dictator goes down the pan what a great actor this guy is best portrayal of AH ever many have tried even the great Charlie Chaplin but this fellow is tops.
However, Charlie's great dictator speech is tops
Meanwhile Koller is having a great time at Wildpark Werder. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
6:24 If you break your legs, it's hard to cook orangutan!
The movie scene is magnificent
Movie name?
@@amardeosingh9403 Das UNTERGANG (The Fall)
I think in his rage he was thinking about his trench misery in the first world war. He was to traumatized to see things for what they were. He was already without emotions and this didnt help them in the end. Lucky for us but at to high a cost and it forever changed our family history even if we were not even involved.
The funniest thing about last days of Hitler was how staff of the bunker was keeping journal of Hitler's farts
He had bad stomach due to all the insane drugs he used in decades
@@KOTYAR0 47 farts on the day he died apparently.
3:23 me in zoo when see monke
That’s what I’ve thought 😂
8:00 guy is so far gone hes rambling about taking back the romanian oil fields when they dont even have enough forces left to push the soviets out of the capital city i like how the general sorta realizes that and doesnt even ask any questions like just let me get the heck out of here lol
Interessting Point , Goebbels said : " ich mache Kippe! ( 50/50) " Kippe is typical rotwelsch also known as criminal Idiom. This is important, because Geobbels was a salesman for several things like fuel and had a wide varity of personal expirience.
Poor Gerda. That was my Grandmother’s name too.
Bruno Ganz made an outstanding performance playing the role of Adolf Hitler. Listening the dialogue in german even knowing that is a movie, i got chills down my spine. The blind rage against the reason. And the actors that co-starred in this movie were great. A piece of history that should be conserved for the new generations to avoid another blood bath as WWII was for all mankind.
0:59
I believe this man that The Professor is talking to is is Obergruppenführer Oswald Ludwig Pohl.
Similar scene playing out at Kamala Harris’s campaign headquarters.
Poor Trump is throwing ketchup against the walls. What's hilarious is that even if Trump manages to win, he is already a deranged empty suit, so Shady and Congress will effectively be running the government. And Shady already said he hates Trump so that's a win for us Democrats.
The Bald headed guy is such a great actor. I liked him in "Black Book"
The Doc is the same actor who nailed Muntze in Black Book.
Christian Berkel was also in that crappy Tom Cruise film, Valkyrie.
He was also the bartender in Inglorious Basterds
Hard to believe that whole country mobilized for war
And they followed a madman psychopath to the ultimate demise!!
Hitler: "I will not leave the Volga! But, yah, I will leave Berlin if Stalin gets too close. He might kick me in mein underpants."
Even in German language, but feeling is intact.
Steiner . . .
In Hitler’s delirious tirade against his generals he must have thought Rohm was right all along.
5:05 fov: group chat got leaked
Villain was not born,
It was been made
*"IF YOU BRAKE THE LEGS, IS HARD TO COOK THE ORANGUTAN"*
6:24
Clearly, they had no understanding of the merits of recycling.
This is such a great movie. It is a great portrayal of how truly stupid Hitler really was when it came to the military (and everything else).
Fish.. Dammit I've watch too many of this meme 😂
"Once I've managed this situation, we must recover the oilfields"
...Sure thing Dolfie. How are you going to manage this situation exactly?
He blamed everyone but himself for the downfall of Germany.
Kamaliar and turncoat Tim’s administration
Bore off Yank
I think Hitler needs to go on an anger management course. He doesn't seem to handle disappointment and stress very well at all!
"Der krieg ist verloren".
Great movie
Imo the best WW2 movie ever and I’m a bit of a ww2 guy
06:24 If you break your kegs its hard to cook oragutan!!!!
2050년대에 어울리는 제복이다.
Гитлер наверное один из самых удивительных персонажей мировой истории. В начале 20х никому не известный рядовой чин, чужак австриец, ходивший по пивным барам, в 30х канцлер Германии, в 40х поставивший на колени всю европу. Германия при нем реально возродилась из пепла, поднявшись на небывалую высоту, что бы при нем же превратится обратно в пепел. Уважаемые немцы, а может Фашизм, это то что вам наиболее ментально подходит? Пишу как внук русского солдата, разбивший лучшую армию мира, и закончивший войну в Вене. А фильм блестящий.
Ryan Giggs has let himself go lol.
When you hear the new releases previously unaaiilable of real Hitler speaking I doubt he carried on screaming like this
All this just because no one liked his paintings…..
This is a remake of the film ‘the bunker’ with Anthony Hopkins
I remember Hitler's ourburst became a parody in many languages years ago.. Here in Thailand him trying to borrow money from Thaksin... 😂😂😂
6:24 If you break your legs, it's hard to cook orangutang
I have this movie and it was excellent . I did read a book years ago called Hitler The Last 10 days very good . I grew up with neighbors who lived it in Germany he was west of Stalingrad when it was encircled. If he talked it was not often but you listen.
Hey Commandante ; you're just now finding out you lost the war ? Your about two years late on this one dude .