WW2 Guns Still Being Used Today
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They may be old, outdated, and gathering dust, but World War Two weapons are still lethal bits of military tech that should not be taken lightly. Even now, among the arsenals of modern armies and police forces, these tried and tested instruments of death can still be found doing their job like it was 1945 all over again.
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17 years Canadian infantry. Never once saw a Lee Enfield. Not sure where you got the idea that it was still in use, even for ceremonial purposes. It isn't.
Like video
U didn't mention Pakistan army uses and manufacture MG42 to this day. Its actually one of the most used heavy machine gun in pak army .
If it can shoot straight and you can hit the target, it's good
True😂
Words to live by 🫡
a good phrase along with “if it isn’t broken, dont fix it”
*proceeds to use air gun in war
@@hakai1014yup
My husband told me while his service with the SANDF in South Africa they ran into insurgents and criminals who had STG-44 even took a picture of his Lieutenant holding a captured one.
My husband’s bring back was a weird looking Cetme with an Ak style rear sight
Makes sense because the Nazis left rifles in Africa and they were captured by Arabs in the 60s and handed over and over
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That sounds like an early friggin model a/b! Doood that's the G3s father
@@ThePineappleKnight932 It’s a wonderful rifle quite heavy for me though the Hk91 and my husband’s most recent acquisition the Century Arms C308 seem quite similar to exactly like this Cetme variant.
One his other bring backs was Carl Gustav M/45 SMG which everytime he takes it to his favorite gun store gathers attention of the Vietnam veterans. His Carl Gustav is painted Green and yellow and taken from a insurgent in Namibia. I always found interest in my husband’s experiences and glad he survived.
@@MayumiC-chan9377 yeah the old cetmes were descendents of the STG45. The design was sold to Heckler and Koch, and they got the army to adopt it as the G3 if I'm remembering correctly
If a gun that was made in 1943, is well maintained, has ammo, and a trained person wielding it, then it is as deadly as a firearm made in 2023.
There's still Maxim guns and Dektaryevs fielded in Ukraine. I even saw a video with one soldier sporting an MP-40.
Older guns are deadlier
My pre-war Walther PPK works just fine
@@popzom4440 That literally depends on the cartridge/caliber of the ammo and what it's being fired from. Barrel lengths, mag capacity, how the barrel devices help with recoil, etc. Some militaries did not have the American Money or German Engineering behind it to make iconic weapons, or high-performing ones. Plus modern designs and adjustments have absolutely increased lethality in general.
Sure a 9mm Luger and a Beretta M9 are ~1300 ft/s out the muzzle, but have you SHOT a Luger? The sights are not even close to what an M9 are, and that alone can make a huge difference. Add in the M9's double ammo capacity, more ergonomic design, faster reloading, and don't get me started on the slides. Yes, both shoot 9mm. Yes, that 9mm is gonna kill you the same way from either gun. However one gun is gonna be way easier to shoot someone accurately, and aiming at targets consistently.
OP is right still, guns being used by trained individuals will be deadly no matter what. Saying "old guns are deadlier" ignores what helps make a gun more lethal: the ease of use from the person using it. I liked shooting a Hi-Power, but my god give me a M9 between the two if my life is going to be on the line.
@@popzom4440you can keep your 1911. I'll take my stacatto 2011 with 26 round magazine, laser light combo, and red dot.
The M2 Browning .50 cal will probably outlive us all. It's kinda hard to replace a .50 BMG heavy machine gun that isn't just the "Ma Duece" that looks different but functions the same.
It's already 100 years old, and most likely will live 100 years more. That's the legacy the HMG has, and is still carrying to this day.
Belgium tried it with a 0.60 cal, but they made the P90 instead.
@@WolfeSaber9933an intermediate cartridge of a intermediate cartridge
@@MagnumLoadedTractor The P90?
@@WolfeSaber9933 The P90 is such a beautiful, elegant, and compact rifle. ❤
@@maybehuman4 It's an SMG, not a rifle.
John Browning. The patron saint of firearms
What is Eugene stoner tho
@@MagnumLoadedTractor Something not as good as Browning.
The only Mormon canonized by the Catholic Church.
@@GldnClaw So, the Catholic Church is just full of hate and jealousy?
I can imagine the developers at Hi-Point going “how can we piss off a dead man?” And creating their 9mm, then laughing until they cried.
Yes, I know Hi-Point 9s work as well as the expensive brands if proper care and maintenance is used. I just like making the jokes.
You know what they say! "Old reliable!"
Mikhail kalashnikov said in his own memoirs that he drew inspiration from the m1 garand, the stg44 had nothing to do with it.
AK-47 ≈ STG44
@@aleksandarvil5718no, the desing is completeley diffrent, the only simelarety is the intermedeate cartrige and the originel intend as submachinegun
Propaganda exists y'know. The Soviets don't want to admit that they stole German designs.
@@aleksandarvil5718 Lmao no. The Ak platform is basically an upside down garand. It shares much more functionally with the garand.
@@Based_Gigachad_001 As stated, the AK shares a lot with the garand, nearly nothing with the STG.
Dad said they had a Grease Gun in their armory, this was 1970 Vietnam...
M2 Browning Is the only weapon created on max status that didn't need further upgrades.
1911
@@thecursed01 Besides the M1911. Everybody still loves the 50 cal heavy machine gun ever since it was created.
@@thecursed01Is the 1911 Browning made? Also, its caliber can be switched around, like 0.460 rounds.
Thompson SMG
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 Those were replaced by the M3 Grease Gun tho
M2 will probably be on space ships 100 years from now
even in Gundam UC timeline that gun is still being used even on Mobile Suit such as the Jegan manhunting variant
@@RX78-2Gundam Because the original franchise is made in 1979. Tomino doesnt had clever imagination to created creative blaster like in "Star Wars".
I wouldn't be surprised if that happened already.
In Warhammer 40,000, the M2 is still in active service.
38 thousand years in the future they probably think M2 stands for which millennium it was designed in, and they would be accidentally correct.
Look at most models of the "heavy stubber" it's literally just an M2.
All goes down to one principle: The human body never gets more resistant to bullets.
Not really actually
Bulletproof vests: am I a joke to you?
Not everyone issued Body armor. Some nation still use ALICE
@@user-pd5do9mw6x Well technicaly thats not the human body... if you implant kevelar under your skin... thats would be different.
@@DMlTREl Well, not exactly. I was a bit quick in making that comment, in hindsight. But it still is a really big factor.
The Maxim is the oldest gun used by a military force, and the first automatic machine gun, dating back to 1884, even older than the Mosin Nagant from 1891
But those guns are effective
Tbh I still can’t believe a 1911 was designed in … well you get the idea. It always seems so modern to me… even decades after I first held one
Simplicity is timeless
if a weapon can still fight, it will fight once more
Actually, the M1 Garand was the inspiration for the AK. AK may look externally more like the STG but internally it is a lot like the M1 grand.
The video acknowledged this in a sense because Kalashnikov is seen with an Stg-44, M1 Garand, and an SVT-40 when making the AK-47
2:03 that german soilder whistling like nothing happened 😂
How could he of missed? Lol
@@MichaelKemner-wj9nc He didn't. There was just more of them than he had bullets.
The M2 is the best, most resilient, machine gun I have ever used. Love that thing.
Sometimes you just have to say "Age? Who gives a smeg! If it still fires, it works."
Clean it up, replace broken parts, and watch it run lol
Clean it up, replace broken parts, and watch it run lol
“A bullet can’t stop the bull moose!” Theodore Roosevelt
TR will give WC the full deuce
You're right; 40 can.
700 .50 bmg rounds per minute can
The Browning HMG is a base model for the modern Browning H2B. Just like how the M1 Abrams tank is the base model for the M1A3 Abrams SepV3
My parents love the M1911 pistol. They had trained with it when they were in the Air Force and they own a .22LR version of it for self-defense.
... and since it's made of metal, you can easily use it to pistol-whip!
D44s on MTLBs are regular self-propelled guns rather than tank destroyers. A tank destroyer is either a self-propelled anti-tank gun or a anti-tank missile carrier.
Grease guns are no longer in service in the Philippine Navy and Marine Corps, they are currently using MP5 variants.
according to mikhail kalashnikov, the ak was based more on the m1 garand than the stg but it's still the first assault rifle
STG44 was the first assault rifle, I thought?
@@ExtantPersonIt is, people say also its the fedorov but to be considered an assault rifle it gotta fire an intermediate cartridge, the fedorov is a Battle rifle, not an assault, and yes the STG44 is the first assault rifle, or the MKB42 which was its predocessor can also be considered the first assault rifle
The ak took inspiration from the design of the STG but other than that they function entirely differently
to respond to this reply and commenter
before I continue I tried to pull knowledge from kalashnikov's sponsered museum but all I could find were opening hours and location
according to kalishnikov group (the current historian and manufacturers of the ak framework within russia) in their sponsored historical film Kalishnikov about the making of the ak47
kalishnikov was inspired to make an automatic rifle for the soviet army after watching his commanders PPSH jam in a gunfight which got him killed and kalishnikov injured
he started sketching in the hospital and to quote wikipedia
"I was in the hospital, and a soldier in the bed beside me asked: 'Why do our soldiers have only one rifle for two or three of our men when the Germans have automatics?' So I designed one.
he started in 1942 with a submachinegun, in 1943 he had a light machinegun and in early 1944 he was given a new smaller arms cartridge
source copied from wikipedia (Kalashnikov was given some 7.62×39mm M43 cartridges and informed that other designers were working on weapons for this new Soviet small-arms cartridge)
and to again quote wikipedia
(In 1944, he entered a design competition with this new 7.62×39mm, semi-automatic, gas-operated, long-stroke piston carbine, strongly influenced by the American M1 Garand)
and to @ExtantPerson the m1 garand was *not* an assault rifle it was a battle rifle/automatic rifle and used much larger cartridges then assault rifles and used a clip instead of a magazine but did have a very similar reciever (trigger mechanism) including a rotating breechblock and even used a similar piston design just below the barrel instead of ontop
he lost the 1944 design competition and to quote once again wikipedia
(In 1946, a new design competition was initiated to develop a new rifle.[30] Kalashnikov submitted a gas-operated rifle with a short-stroke gas piston above the barrel, a breechblock mechanism similar to his 1944 carbine, and a curved 30-round magazine)
seperate quoting of wiki (This design had many similarities to the StG 44.[33] In late 1946, as the rifles were being tested, one of Kalashnikov's assistants, Aleksandr Zaitsev, suggested a major redesign to improve reliability)
and for the last time
(In November 1947, the new prototypes (AK-47s) were completed. The rifle used a long-stroke gas piston above the barrel. The upper and lower receivers were combined into a single receiver. The selector and safety were combined into a single control lever/dust cover on the right side of the rifle. And, the bolt handle was simply attached to the bolt carrier. This simplified the design and production of the rifle.)
to put it blunt (since I know people nowadays hate reading things)
the rifle evolved heavily over several years and although the original rendition of it wasn't related at all to the stg (the stg hadn't even been *made* yet in 1942)
as it's design was giving the new small arms cartridge in 1944 it took heavy inspiration from the m1 garand with a long gas piston and rotating breechblock
it lost the design competition and came out with a 1946 design that took a lot of inspiration from the stg before a complete redesign in 1947 to make it more reliable and combing aspects of all
the paragraph above is a practical tldr for readers
I hope you enjoyed and if you read the whole thing I truly thank you for your patience
and also sorry for copying so much from wikipedia they said it better than I ever could
hope you enjoyed :)
@@boneshakerjake in fact in 42 the STG was made but it was the MKB42 or from Walther (which saw only 200 at use) and the Heinel one which saw wider usage, but in the rest ur right
Everybody loved the M1911 pistol. Ever since the Moro Rebellion in the Philippines, because the 38 caliber pistol or revolver don't have the power or the firepower to kill or take out Moro Rebels and that the M1911 was born.
The 1911 can be switched for a 0.460 caliber.
Actually the C96 Mauser is the reason why the M1911 was made
5:05 bro ran at the speed of light
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8:02 Canadian Rangers, the main force of Canada’s remote Northern Territories, still utilize the SMLE as a standard weapon system
It was the No.4 Lee-Enfield, not the SMLE, and they are replacing them with modern Finnish Bolt guns. So there should be some more surplus coming in the market soon!
@@spudgunn8695 that would be cool if the reds up north would actually sell them instead of what they will actually do which is destroy them,
Because ya know their dictator doesn’t like freedom
And there are only 400 of them! They're called Canadian Rangers, but they're just Inuit hunters. I've met a few of them, and the ones I've met were carrying Henry 45-70.
It's being phased out, but at least there was some minor acknowledgement of that with the mention of it being in reserve and ceremonial roles.
@@TimberWolf99 My cousin is current active military, MP. He told me that Canada is keeping those 400 and will phase them out through retirement, and a new Arctic regiment/brigade? (not sure of military term) will be formed.
In Poland during 2014 I trained on the D44. Loudest thing I ever witnessed
I still think that the sherman could be useful on the battlefield today. There is literally a sherman for every single thing youd ever need
How about Mosin? How about PPSH? How about DP-28?How about TT-33? And others WWII weapon used by Soviet Union what used today?
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. MP-40s and K98 still pop up in Africa and Ukraine to this day as well. I guess if they talked about all the WWII guns still in use they would have a run time of over an hour.
Quit calling it PPSH, it's PPSha (same sound as "shark" without "rk"). Be educated.
Dont forget the grand daddy of all fully automatic machine guns, the Maxim machine gun
So reliable that is can fire over 1 million rounds without breaking as long as you got the water, ammo and barrels for it
Fun fact about the MG3. Some of them actually used MG42 receivers and if you know where to look you can find waffenamts on them. They are however very hard to see cause the West German Army made it a habit to get rid of anything having to do with the pervious gov't shall we say. To find them you got to totally dismantle it an armory level though.
Lets not forget John Browning's big hole maker from the First World War (actually slightly before that).
I always thought the story 44 only had about 100,000 made. Didn't realize it was nearly 500,000 produced. But it is interesting so many are used still.
Who says old weapons cant be efective and or beautyfull annymore 😅😂
My Lee Enfield from 1916 still shoots straight as an arrow, the only issue I have is finding ammo for it. These guns are still out here looking for the enemy
A gun truly ahead of its time 🇬🇧
Fun fact: by replacing the spring and bolts it was possible to bring the MG42’S fire rate up to 1800 rpm
Surprisingly the M3 Grease Guns were still used by the Philippine Marine Corps, to this day even though they have access to MP5s or any SMGs for Armored vehicle crews.
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Without medical aid, an arrow is just as deadly today as it was seventy-five thousand years ago.
Russia's Kalashnikov is the definition of "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
the ak is not a copy of the stg, it's more similar to the garand if that is what you mean
@@mrfaen7661 Frankly it's both guns being the Stg and garand
ar 15 is more similar to stg (buffer tube ,trigger mechanism) than akm( long stroke piston(first variants of kalashnikovs rifle had short stroke piston)), bolt locking is like on simonovs semi auto AT rifle that came some 5-6 years prior to stg , AKM under hood is more like M1 garand upside down
Kalashnikov himself stated one of his main inspirations was the M1 Garand
That doesn't detract from him though.
The AK was built from the ground up and is still entirely different from anything else of the time.
Have you heard the name Darra Adamkhel?
Where local Gunsmiths produce one of the best weapons.
Give them a weapon and they will produce thousands of copies of it.
Another worthy mention is the bofors 40mm, a popular anti-aircraft gun used by both sides in WW2. It was fitted on ships, towed trailers and self-propelled AA, still in use today although with many upgrades made over the years, even rebuilt for anti-tank purposes
I'm glad to listen about the Madsens in use here in Brazil. Happy 4th of July, everyone.
Just because it's old doesn't mean it's broke. In fact, they're probably built better back then like pretty much everything is.
"They don't make things like they used to"
Old but gold.
The Chad 1911
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Uhh it's 1:17 Am are you ok?
@@MAC_THE_RETURN greetings from 1:18P.M
The 1911 becomes gigachad when it shoots bigger than 0.45 caliber.
Gotta be that guy: the Ak47 was based on the m1 garand, not the stg44. The only similarities are magazine design and overall shape
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The M60 is more closely related to the FG42, rather than the MG42
Matter of fact some Abram tank crews used the grease gun up till around the 90s in very limited numbers
Place your bets, how long will the swastika last before UA-cam throws a hissy fit about it
I got 3 hours.
Did I just watch Stalin evolve an artillery gun like some sort of pokemon
You forgot some of the oldest weapons still in use. The Maxim machine gun and the Mosin-Nagants. Multiple nations still use them, and they are quite a bit older than most of the ones mentioned.
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Is that COD Vanguard's F2000 reference in the thumbnail lmao
No, looks like an AR15 style rifle
It's an M4 Carbine
5:00 Regarding Hancock, his custom M2 was modified to be single-shot only, shooting from closed-bolt.
The Browning M2 modified with Russian DSHK
"John Browning went to work" whenever you hear that, you know the man was cooking something DELICIOUS!
Fun fact: stg-44 was not the father of the AK-47. It was actually the M1 Garand, as they both use long-stroke piston system. Stg44 was more of a precursor to what you would find more on G3-s.
Great vid
Fun fact Canada retired the Lee enfield from active military service in 2023. It was used by patrols in the arctic because of its reliability. R. I.P. A military legend.🫡🇨🇦
great video
My most sincere congratulations Simple History, well done. No matter how many technological advancements take place in the world of warfare, some weapons will always find a way to be used by modern armed forces like the STG44, the Colt M1911, the M2 Browning and many many others. These guns are still used despite being mostly retired or put in storage.
Stg : im the og
Fedrov atovmat: yeah nah
And almost no one know this.
@@ukaszgurbisz5991Considering the Fedorov had fragility’s issues, it should be no surprise it faded into the background
Military Police State of Rio de Janeiro (Polícia Militar do Estado do Rio de Janeiro - PMERJ) in Brazil have a Madsen gun.
Eu sei, sou fluminense.
I remember this video, remember Forgotten Weapons, talking about the Madsen LMG used the Brazilian Police or Militaries
@@Playing096 eu sou brasileiro akakk
@@marcelonunesdossantos9512 caramba outro br aqui? Kkkk
STG44 is worth a small fortune today
To continue with the 1911, a company named Staccato created a modernized version called the 2011. It is slowly becoming very popular with police officers in the US. Also, other companies such as Tisas, Springfield Armory, and Stealth Arms make their own version of a modernized 1911. Thus carrying on the legacy of John Moses Browning, for another 100 years.
Retrofitting and modernising historical classics is a niche that’s hella underrated
Old but gold
the ak is not a copy of the stg, it's more similar to the garand
The M2 Machine gun is currently at 106 years of service and counting. With no end in sight.
3:31 bro is cooking🔥🔥
As Albert Einstein said:
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
This is what he mean't ww1 and ww2 guns are those sticks and stones for modern warfare of ww3 and ww4.
No, he meant WW3 would throw us back to the stone age
@@CMGThePersonexactly
Please do a video about the Iraq war, I feel as if it’s an important topic not discussed as much
Which one?
@@yodaslovetoy Im pretty sure he's talking about the 2003 Iraq War. I don't think there's anything else called the Iraq War. There's the Persian Gulf War, Iran-Iraq more and more (I think)
I was waiting for the DSHK to be mentioned...
The modified M2 n DShk Heavy Machine Gun
I respect and fear the madsen that thing is a beast. The fact its still being used is a testament to its capability as a weapon.
The Indian and Pakistani troops who guard the border are not 'local militias'. They are paramilitaries, in India it is the Border Security Force and in Pakistan it is the Pakistan Rangers (divided into Punjab Rangers and Sindh Rangers). And it's not just cross border terrorism but a proxy war between India and Pakistan.
Lee Enfield still used the 2 states between India & Pakistan
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 Yes but there are no 'local border militias' in India and Pakistan. The troops who patrol the border are from government paramilitaries.
@@SeahawkGaming-xp7blIndia does have village defence guards, which are local militia and they have engaged with terrorists on numerous occasions. The paramilitary is the BSF
@@ameyawadekar9901 Didn't knew about them, just searched that. They are a only deployed in Kashmiri villages as per the information available. They are not border guards like the BSF.
@@SeahawkGaming-xp7bl that is true. But in the video he said village militias. The VDG is what he’s referring to. The BSF doesn’t use SMLEs, except maybe for training
W video ❤
No PPSH-41? those are currently popular in the Ukraine
This list left out one of the absolute best: Stalin's Banjo, the PPSh-41.
42 seconds wow
The STG44 is the best WW2 weapon. And it inspired the AK-47
Before M16
No. The AK was based off the garand
The m2 is also capable of firing in a single shot mode that catches the bolt open you press the bolt release the bolt to be able to fire again
You know I'm surprised the maximum machine gun was out on this list
A slight correction.
The first mass-produced assault rifle wasn't the STG 44. It was actually the Browning Automatic Rifle. Entered service at the tail end of WW1.
The BAR was an lmg, not an AR.
The BAR is actually the first assault rifle, not AR-15
there's a reason why the BAR was not a assault rifle because it's was too heavy and did not have enough ammo to assault positions in the battlefield thus it was labelled as a light machine gun
I think the BAR would lean into the category of battle rifles instead of assault rifles
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Great video! Somthing I would like to see is more Vietnam war content.
I believe the MG3 also has a significantly slower fire rate than the MG42, I don’t know why but I could speculate that it’s both for ammo conservation and the fact that the MG42 couldn’t stay on target at most ranges after about 7 rounds, it’s why in D-day scenes you’d mostly hear short bursts from the MG42s in the bunkers.
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Congrats
As a honorable mention (as those are seemingly withdrawn from the service around the world) I would suggest Bren light machine gun. It was in service in UK till 1990's, just like M3 Grease Gun in US Army.
Cool video I would love if you did a video on the Infantry Weapons of the American Revolution
Bravo for the thumbnail, not sure most will catch it hahaha
4:08 Where did you see anyone shoot M2 prone?? And shouldered???
As a wise man once said:
"If it ain't broke, don'tfix it."
the m2 and the mg42 (which is literally just the m3) were just that far ahead of its time, a time when a automatic car transmission was unheard of and color tvs werent sold for another three decades, still used in the modern day f35s and drone's. mind you, these were basically invented in a time when planes were made of canvas, and now they metal death wedges.
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Why did it looked like Stalin used a Pokémon crystal for the cannon to evolve 😂
1:36 fun fact this gun was a prop used in star wars specifically it was refitted as a blaster rifle of the rebel alliance
According to “the internet”(veterans)US military prefers the 1911 over the Beretta 9mm despite being standard issue. The 1911 is much lighter.
You didn't ad the Maxims?
“They maybe old…. but they’re still a bold one..”
There’s pics of the stg44, mg42, Mauser 98 & 98k being used in Ukraine today
The madsen machine gun is being used by the military police in Rio de Janeiro in Brazil
An interesting mention, you could’ve said for the M3 grease gun would be Argentina’s version the PAM-2 which saw service in the Falklands war.
It's not that surprising considering the fact that some pre WW1 firearms like PM M1910 machine guns and Mosin-Nagant rifles are still used on the fronts in Ukraine.
Fun fact, the design of the internals of the AK platform is more inspired by the Garand than the Stg.