Battle Of The Best YouTube Audio Recorders The Sony PCM-A10 vs Zoom H1n Audio Recorder TIFL
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2019
- Battle Of The Best UA-cam Audio Recorders The Sony PCM-A10 vs Zoom H1n Audio Recorder
The built-in microphones: Both recorders have built-in XY pattern stereo mics but the Sony allows you to change the pickup pattern giving you three different positions. The Zoom is locked into a single position. This category goes to the Sony.
The Preamps: while testing testing both devices I found that I had to raise the gain levels of the Zoom H1n between 60-70% of it's max to get the right audio levels and the Sony only had to go to 50-60%. The Sony also has much cleaner audio and quieter Preamps especially when recording with the line out. This category goes to the Sony
Build Quality: Both devices are made out of plastic but the Sony feels like it much more robust. The Zoom H1n feels cheap and plasticky. This category goes to the Sony.
Pocket-ability: Both recorders have a candy bar style design but the Sony PCM-A10 is smaller and more streamlined. The Zoom is larger and has a bulbous head because of the cage covering the microphones. The category goes to the Sony.
Price: The Sony PCM-A10 is $230 while the Zoom H1n is $120. Now you do get a few accessories with the Sony like a protective case and foam windscreen to cover the built-in mics. Zoom offers similar accessories and more but you have to buy them separately. The Zoom accessory pack is $25 and even at that price it's still cheaper to buy the Zoom H1n rather than the Sony. This category goes to the Zoom.
Ease of Use: There are couple of things that make the Zoom H1n easier to use than the Sony. First the Zoom has user replaceable batteries so you don't have to wait until the unit itself recharges, with the Zoom you just put in fresh batteries and keep working. The Zoom also has a nice input dial right on the front of the device that is very easy to operate and make adjustments while preparing to record or actually recording. However, when you activate the hold switch to lock in your settings the hold switch does not lock the input levels dial and your levels can be accidentally adjusted. This is a major flaw and a disaster waiting to happen.
Now when checking the levels on the Zoom you can do so by just turning on the recorder. The Sony on the other hand you have to either be recording or in pause mode to see your input levels and make adjustments. However, the Sony offers Bluetooth connectivity so you can connect to the Sony Rec Remote app and start and stop recordings, monitor and adjust the levels and place markers. You can also pair Bluetooth headphones to the Sony to listen to recordings wirelessly. This features also allows you to use the Sony PCM-A10 as a Bluetooth MP3 player. Not being able to lock the input levels on the Zoom is a real problem for me so this category goes to the Sony.
In Conclusion, I will say if you can afford to buy the Sony PCM-A10 over the Zoom H1n do it. The Sony is a better device, it offers more advanced features onboard storage, stronger and cleaner preamps than the Zoom H1n. The Sony is more expensive but when you factor in the cost of buying AAA batteries over time for the Zoom, the accessory pack and a Micro SD card the overall cost of ownership is about the same. If you can’t afford the Sony then the H1n is still a very capable option.
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Awesome video brother LARRY. Much appreciated. Keep the content coming. Hope you enjoy your weekend
Thank you and you enjoy the weekend too. Thanks for watching.
Thank you sir, exactly the information I need for purchasing an audio recoder
Really well done review! Thank you so much!
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Great video handsome! I have the SONY PCM-A10 and the quality is amazing!
Well done. Thank you!
Subscribed!
Awesome video Thanks!
Thank you much appreciated. Thanks for watching.
man oh man great video!!!
Thank you much appreciated
Appreciate your videos. Helps a lot. In a video you talked about not seeing levels until you start recording. I’m trying to understand the Rehearsal function described in the manual, and this sort of solved it because you see the levels when you press Rehearsal. I don’t fully understand it, though.
Yeah I think that is so you can dial in the levels properly without actually recording.
Great review.
Sir i have a question.can you tell me please,which recorder is best for capture college lectures and long distance clear recording?
Hey Larry, I like this look on u, the hair, the facial hair, etc. Nice touch😊
Hahaha thank you maybe I'll have to go back to it. Thanks for watching.
Great review/comparison, the huge difference in price predictibly equals the difference in features and functionality.
Yeah I have to agree with you. I didn't want to pay the difference in price but in this case it was definitely worth it.
Woow this I like this video!! Thx so mcuh!
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Thanks, I bought the Sony because of this review and I’m really happy with it. Your review is really thorough and your video sharp as tack, great work!
Thank you that means a lot to me. Thanks for sharing your experience and please subscribe.
Great review Larry. Thank you for going into detail like you did, I found your review extremely helpful. Between the Sony and the Roland R07 which one would you buy and why?
I'm also deciding between the Sony PCM A10 and Roland R07. Did you end up buying either?
I went with the Sony.
Great video Larry! The Sony is definitely better overall.
Could you also please review the Sony PCM-D10? There's not many videos on it on the web.
It helped me so much! Thank you so much! Can I ask you one more question? Which one do you recomend for recording musics and ambience sound???
I like the Sony
TodayIFeelLike Thank you!
Have not finished video - just got to 1:30 when you're showing audio of the two. At 1:39 when your voice goes up in sony recording "now I found with" there is a lot of distortion, crackling and hollow sound. Does not happen with the h1n just after yet you don't raise your voice same way so unsure if it's a youtube compression problem your post or the sony. I was just looking at some reviews for the sales today and comparisons brought me to the sony (not on sale) and to your video.
This is tough. I love my Zoom muti-track recorders, but Sony used to make some of the best audio gear in the world, for example the DA-10 DAT field recorder, but that was a pro device, $3500 in 1990 money, and the best solid state mic pre-amps I've ever heard. The Zoom wins on the input level, when you are in the field you can grab the actual knob and adjust quickly, rather than frantically pushing buttons. The Zoom has a little wider stereo spread, and the Sony is a little more focused toward the middle of the stereo field.
As you matched the levels(excellent methodology, btw) the Sony became more robust and right there, if you will, while the Zoom's dynamics stayed somewhat flat and muted at the same level. In other words, the Sony preamps sound better. On my Zoom H8 the preamps are closer to the Sony's, but the replaceable stereo mics sound much thinner that my good AKG 451 Chinese knockoff condensers, and like an AM radio compared to my high end Neumann and AKG stereo mics.
Having Bluetooth is nice, to be sure, and I'm thinking about buying the Zoom Bluetooth module for the H8 just so I don't have to keep taking the SD card out to transfer files. Then there is the issue of file format. The Zoom does .wav files, and the Sony does PCM files, so they usually have to be converted to work with most editing programs, don't know about Apple products as much, but PCM is a Sony proprietary format, so probably needs converting. I would think Sony has an app/program for that, don't know.
To sum up, if you have the money, go with the Sony, but the Zoom is more than capable of doing the same job with slightly less quality. If I were doing just ENG, I'd go with the Zoom, but if I wanted to record music the Sony would be my choice. As far as multi-track, Sony doesn't make multi-track field recorders, so no way to compare to the H8.
If someone asks me which recorder to get today I think I'd have to steer them towards some others because now there's all these 32-bit float recorders going around and that just makes things so much easier as far as not screwing anything up. And for the most part they're about the same price maybe a little bit more but still very reasonable especially for what you get. Anyways thank you for the very thought out and insightful comment I appreciate it. Thank you for watching and please subscribe.
thaynx bro💟
No problem thanks for watching.
Thanks. I bought the Zoom on the internet and then regretted when i saw the Sony onw at the shop. It looks so much better.
I wish I had watched this BEFORE I bought the H1n
Yeah the H1N is ok but it's noisy. Thanks for watching and please subscribe.
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Wow!!! Thanks I'm happy to have you on board thanks for sub. I hope you like my future content. Thanks again.
TodayIFeelLike yeah i really love these detailed in depth reviews thanks to you for making my quarantine less boring XD
Thank you that means more than you know. Thank you very much.
why hand held doesn't have noise like plug-in to camera??????
Your video popped up while I was looking for a video to allow me to compare the size of the Sony vs. the Zoom. I was surprised by the production quality and thoroughness of your review vs. your subscriber count -- if you keep this up, I can't see why you shouldn't have hundreds of thousands of subscribers.
Did you perhaps have the low-cut filter ON on the Sony and OFF on the Zoom while you were doing the built-in mic comparisons? I thought I caught some LF HVAC or wind noise on the Zoom that wasn't present on the Sony, and your voice (which is GREAT, BTW) seemed a bit more resonant on the Zoom.
Also, if comparing recorders in the future, clip light behavior is very important to me -- is it instantaneous, or does it "flash" for a set period of time when it clips? Is it separate or combined with some other indicator? Or does it have a clip light at all? (Maybe just an indicator on the LCD?) When I record, after I set levels, I usually record music by "clip light," so its exact behavior can make quite a difference in how easy it is for me to use. Perhaps other people are similarly curious.
Thanks for finding and watching my video. To answer some of your questions, I don't remember if I had the low cut filter on with both but I'm going to say yes because I almost always turn it on with all my recorders when first setting them up because I record in my home with HVAC, refrigerator and other noises. The clip lights are instantaneous on the Sony I can't remember on the Zoom and I can't test it now because I returned. I have a lot recorders and honestly I love the Sony and now it has me considering one of their pro recorders because I hate using my Tascam DR-70D.
Thank you for your reviews. I really am in a pickle and I am looking to get a recorder to record some melody ideas and also I wanted to start a mini podcast with a portable recorder , I’m personally between the pcma10 or the zoom H4n. Is the quality in sound much different in these ? What do you recommend ? I’m so torn. I love the pocket size but I want the better bang for my buck of the two recorders.
The Zoom will give you more options especially being able to hook up XLR mics and lines. The H4N really is a different class of recorder and something that you can really grow into. If being compact is primary then grab the Sony.
@@TodayIFeelLike thank you! What about sound quality? Are they similar? I’m sure The H4n wins the battle, not sure if it’s very noticeable though,
I don’t remember enough of the sound of H4n I sound it when I got my TASCAM DR-70D. I used it for years and I remember it sounding pretty good for the time.
Thanks for the review Larry! How well does the Sony deal with handling noise? I'm planning on using it in my walking videos so it'll be mounted onto my camera with a wind muff. I wonder how well it'd do this job because the Zoom very often has such handling noises which you can't avoid even using a shock mount. I'd really appreciate your advice here! Thanks.
I can't recall and I have only used it like that a couple of times. However, I think someone makes a shock mount you can use.
@@TodayIFeelLike yeah but as I said, I have this shock mount. And even in it the Zoom gives vibrations in the audio file which I get. So I was wondering if the Sony would be behaving better.
I'm sorry I misunderstood. If you're getting handling noise with that shock mount you're likely going to get the same handling noise with the sony. The handling noise is not coming from the recorder as much as it's coming from the recorder bouncing around. There are some on-camera mics that actually record at the same time so you could try one of those microphones. I haven't actually used any so I don't have one I can recommend to you but I know that they have some out there. The other option is to use a bracket of some sort to move the recorder further away from the camera to help eliminate some of that shake. However, to be perfectly honest those audio recorders are simply not designed for that so you're really creating a workaround and you might find something that works for you but you would probably be better off with a solution that's more designed for your purposes.
@@TodayIFeelLike Thanks for your advice, Larry! I appreciate it.
Thanks for the great video! I have few questions:
1) Can you use A10 as an external mic for a) Mac b) iPhone?
2) Did you compare the audio quality of A10 with H4n Pro?
The thing that I don't like with the Sony is the internal battery. Over time, that battery will get weaker and weaker and for such a great recorder, it should be able to have longevity. With that said, the Sony's audio quality STOMPS on the Zoom H1n, but the battery to something to consider if you are looking for a recorder that will last you.
Quality first always
I totally agree. I don't understand why products includes more and more batteries that cannot be changed. It just makes the product life shorter. Even manuals says remove battery if not used long time. The rechargeable and changeable batteries are a must. I hate that many good products lasts 2 years just because battery cannot be changed and I don't wanna tear-down every electronics. I have some 10 years old items in use just because batteries can be changed with good Eneloops. I changed aaa eneloops to our many years old baby monitor and now it lasts from 4 hours to 1,5 days again.
Hi, Can you please tell me how to connect ZoomH1n and Boya BY M1 lav mic to my smartphone so that I can record Audio and Video in together? No post-production hassle.
Sorry I got rid of my Zoom it was too noisy.
Good comparison. The zoom preamp is unusable with gain set to 50 and above IMO. Looks like the A10 will be my M10's replacement.
Yeah I have been using the Sony A10 as my regular recorder now. Thanks for watching and please subscribe.
still couldn't figure out how to get a good voice recording with a lav mic with the sony a10... out of the box with rode smartlav+ sounds terrible, sound like speaking through a plastic cup, unusable, any help on this?
Do me a favor and send me an email todayifeellike@Gmail.Com and I'll send you a couple of pics of my settings and see if that helps.
Mine sounds really good. I'm not sure what could be going wrong. Maybe it's a defective unit?
Hey, helpful video! Could you do a comparison of the PCM-A10 vs. Tascam DR-07X? The Tascam is closer in price to the H1n, but seems like it might be closer to the Sony in terms of features, build quality and clean preamps at the same time!
I don’t have the Tascam but I’ll write them and see if I can borrow on for a review. Thanks for watching and please subscribe.
where's the line out on the sony a10 ? mine only has a headphone out. purchased from sony directly.
Headphone out
please make a video for internal setting of this voice recorder(sony pcm a10).
Thank you for the suggestion if I can get to it soon I will. Thanks for watching.
@@TodayIFeelLike Thank you so much...
Is the Sony PCM-A10 less noisy than the Roland R07 as well? Are you able to monitor the audio via Bluetooth headphones WHILE you're recording on the Sony? Because I believe you can do so with the Roland.
On the Sony you can monitor the levels but you can’t listen with the Roland you actually listen in over Bluetooth.
@@TodayIFeelLike thanks for your quick response! And is the Sony less noisy than the Roland when you're plugging in a lav mic?
@@somewhereinbetween1499 Yes the Sony has the quietest preamps out of all the recorders that I have tested in every configuration.
I'm considering buy one of these two, this might be the only video compares them together which is I am very appreciate, I'm not going to use them for interview usage, I want to record concert audio and seems the test part doesn't help in my condition. Still a good review though!
And I am confused by this video the ZOOM one seems sounds better??? ua-cam.com/video/Gw9pf7CKLI0/v-deo.html&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3Y6rpqvho7yQ7Ehc26I17UDI1CI0h6xx2G_3XNAtX5JUV-qRxI8r0_5kM
First let me say thank you for watching. And if you were planning on recording concerts directly with the recorder I would still say get the Sony. The Sony has different pickup patterns that will help you depending on how you recording that concert. Also if you are running a line into the recorder this Sony sounds much much much better than the zoom. I know the Sony is more expensive but I think you will be much happier with it when you get it. Again thank you for watching and please subscribe.
@@TodayIFeelLike I bought the PCM-A10 BUT turns out it sounds terrible especially when you recording music, it might be hard to tell when you recording voice, but with music, the high tone is so distorted and more buffled, and the other hand the hiss and noise might louder than PCM-A10 but H1n sounds more beautiful. Yeah I bought the Zoom right after being disappointed by A10....
Well I'm sorry to hear that I'm sorry my recommendation disappointed but I'm glad you bought something that is working for you. I'm going to try and do more comparisons in the future.
@@Joanne1656 I'm looking for a recorder to record music, and your comment was really helpful. Have you looked into the Roland R07? I've listened to some music samples recorded with the Sony PCM A10, and I agree that the background noise on it is loud and the music doesn't sound as good as I'd expect. I think it might be better for voice recording or ambient recording, but not so much for music from the samples I've heard on youtube
Hi, I own the Zoom H1n. I’m happy with it for what I use it for. I think this comparison leans toward the Sony side. You’re comparing a $100 product next to a $230 product. I would hope the Sony be superior. You should compare the Sony UX series with the Zoom H1n. These are closer to being the same price range. For the money I’d buy the Zoom H6 at $230. I know it’s not a pocket size recorder, but a lot more for the price.
What about this battle: sony pcm-a10 vs olympus ls-p4. Similar sizes, similar prices. The question which one has a better sound quality?...
I might have to see what I can do.
@@TodayIFeelLike cheers :)
HI, Can it be used as usb mic for streaming, zoom calling ...via connecting usb cable ?
I think so but I haven't tried that so I can't say so for sure.
Did you work out the answer to this?
Can i charge sony pcm a10 voice recorder by 10w or 15w mobile phone adapter?
I don’t know sorry
Nice review, through your video I'm now decided to buy Sony . 😊👍
Nice I hope your love it as much as I do. Thanks for watching and please subscribe.
which one do you think is the best recording quality?
The Sony that is the one I kept and use regularly.
@@TodayIFeelLike thank you
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Missed the auto-level -- which one works best and how well do they work?
If you can it's best to turn off the auto levels and go manual. If you go auto anytime there's a quiet time it's going to start to raise the gain levels, you don't want that you want to keep everything consistent so go manual.
@@TodayIFeelLike Cannot see the screen, don't have time to search through menus, need faint and loud to be audible, and no way to manually change record level during record. How many reasons is that to have really good auto level?
Set your level manually to a reasonable level and turn on the limiter to prevent clipping.
@@TodayIFeelLike I actually use the auto level on this unit by default for daily use, which is for non-broadcast use. If I know I'm recording my own voice and trying to overcome background noise - absolutely - set the record volume low and get close - and it's great that it has a limiter!
Sounds like you are using it correctly and to the fullest.
The zoom in the line lev test has a lot of low end rumble noise, not sure why that was. But Sony def sounds better to my ears. But the dif in price is significant so really only a purchase to those more serious about having a mega compact unit with slightly better pre-amps and fully positional built in mics.
The Sony sounds better it's smaller has better mics and internal memory. You also can use a micro SD card. It is more expensive but that's because it's a better device all around.
The low rumble sounded like wind. Probably a fan running nearby
There wasn’t a fan running that I can remember.
Can i charge this voice recorder by 10w or 15w mobile charger?
Sorry I don’t know 🤷🏾♂️
is there a comparsion for pcm 10 vs zoom h5?
I haven't made one but that sounds like a great video
@@TodayIFeelLike sounds good , I'm tuning in for it , since none made one in youtube , pretty sure it will be helpful to alot of people struggling to choose between them like me
Both are preety good i guessdepend on the purpose usage
Yes they are both really good. These products nowadays are so good there is usually only one or two features that separate them. Thanks for watching.
Can you use the Sony PCM-A10 as a USB audio interface?
I believe you can buy I haven't used it that way.
No, you cannot. The Zoom H1n can though.
I want to record drum covers,which one do you recommend?
The Sony
@@TodayIFeelLike I have an am7 mic condenser for cell phone. Can i plugging in the pcm ?
If you have a 3.5mm
@@TodayIFeelLike yeah. I have an p2 p2 3.5mm
@@TodayIFeelLike thanks a lot for your help
I believe the only advantage of H1n is that it can be used as a USB interface and connect to your DAW to monitor the audio, which the PCM A-10 can't.
If you are deciding between these two recorders you have to decide between features and sound quality.
Yes that's correct. Between H1n and PCM A10, I would go with the Sony hands down. Just adding this point to the already great comparison you've given us. 🙂
Thank you much appreciated. Thanks for sharing your knowledge to the mix.
The Roland r-07 is 100$ cheaper and beats this sony A10 in sound quality. How do I know? I tested it with voice recording and music. I’m returning the Sony A10. Btw thanks for this video, hopefully we see more tests from you.
Also, i turned off all the settings and left everything on manual mode with the highest WAV quality settings. The only thing about the Roland is that its a tiny bit lower in volume compared to the Sony when recording but don’t get it twisted the Roland is higher quality and I was me testing then at only 50% levels.
Do you have samples?
There are samples in the video. I recorded audio with both.
@@TodayIFeelLike ah I meant that question for @3.4M. I wanted to hear the music samples on the Roland R07 vs Sony A10 :)
Oh sorry I didn't get what you were asking
Wow I don't hear any hiss from the Sony. It can probably be removed in post production from the h1n but to have to do that every time seems a bit annoying.
There is huge difference in their prices.
Is this comparison is Honest ? With huge differences in price ?
Of course it's honest. Why would the price make it dishonest?
@@TodayIFeelLike Actually I thought it would be not a good idea to compare two products when difference in price is big.
But I found it's interesting.
BTW Thanks for the video 😊
Can you suggest me one thing.
I record acoustic guitar With a condenser microphone on my laptop in a DAW.
I was searching for a dynamic microphone for acoustic guitar recording I came to know about shure sm 57,
But further I also came to know about Zoom H1 N,
Now I'm confused what should I opt for?
I allready have a condenser studio, should I get a handy traveller recorder zoom h1 n? Or sm 57 a studio dynamic ?
I don't like the Zoom H1n I think it's too noisy. See if you can find a Roland recorder or maybe a Zoom H4n. I understand that price might be a concern but think of it as an investment if you buy the right product once you don't have to buy it again. Where if you buy a budget product once you realize you want better quality you're going to have to spend more money that second time. It's cheaper in the long run just to buy the better product the first time even if you have to buy it used.
@@TodayIFeelLike Thanks you so much ! for your suggestions 😊 love from India ❤🇮🇳
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Just me or the audio on this video a bit tinny at times?
Which part?
@@TodayIFeelLike I've just watched it again, might have been my speaker on the day being funny, sounds great now.
It was just on the highs :)
i don't notice the diferent
Really you didn't hear the difference? Well if you don't hear a difference then I say get the cheaper one unless there's other features that you like about the more expensive one.
@@TodayIFeelLike i got the cheaper one but i like the sony wifi to phone app.
@@dhardjono That's cool how are you looking it?
Zoom is so rumbling and windy . thats the main problem with zooms
Yes I agree
Man, it's not even a competition for the Sony.
I agree that's why I've been using the Sony.
@@TodayIFeelLike your review helped me with my choice. thank you :)
Sadly this awesome mic is no longer being sold anywhere.
Hmmm that sucks.
Online broo
Zoom sounds better.
Really? I thought the Zoom was really noisy.
Wow is the zoom noisy. I would only use that as a replacement for a cassette tape. Stick with the Sony.
Yeah the Sony sound much cleaner
and the Winner is Zoom H1n
Really you thought so, why?
Yea.... Zoom h1n sound more like real compare to sony.. But in term of noisy, sony win..
Thanks for watching
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Thanks and thanks for watching.